Bonfire Night Is No More
allanbonnetracy
third only in the retail stakes to Xmas and Easter.
Then the day itself Thursday, round my way, sod all fireworks counted
no more than about five.
Well I suppose the weather was peeing it down and the weekend probably
made more sense.
Friday again sod all and tonight just the same.
Another British tradition, it is our history after all, would seem to
be disappearing.
But then, the kids, in state schools, probably don’t learn about Guy
Fawkes anymore when they’re so busy with the Holocaust, Global Warming
and Slavery and how we must all pay more tax on these things or you’re
being wicked.
FrereTuck
well, they guy fawkes thing rings of patsy to me... well willing patsy
like winston smith... i.e. a trap that suits their purpose....
and fireworks better at organised/approved event as well.
(that is anyone can have one, just British fireworks and registered event)
FrereTuck
> British fireworks
that is british 'standard' fireworks...
if you set off a banger, it goes off at 105.3 db...
and if you tie 3 together you get how many db? ;)
abelard
are you suggesting that a licence is required to blow up parliament?
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FrereTuck
> On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:06:27 GMT, FrereTuck <no...@invalid.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 11:03:02 -0800, allanbonnetracy wrote:
>>
>>> Well Wednesday came and the news was telling me that Halloween is now
>>> third only in the retail stakes to Xmas and Easter.
>>>
>>> Then the day itself Thursday, round my way, sod all fireworks counted
>>> no more than about five.
>>>
>>> Well I suppose the weather was peeing it down and the weekend probably
>>> made more sense.
>>>
>>> Friday again sod all and tonight just the same.
>>>
>>> Another British tradition, it is our history after all, would seem to
>>> be disappearing.
>>>
>>> But then, the kids, in state schools, probably don’t learn about Guy
>>> Fawkes anymore when they’re so busy with the Holocaust, Global
Warming
>>> and Slavery and how we must all pay more tax on these things or
you’re
>>> being wicked.
>>
>>well, they guy fawkes thing rings of patsy to me... well willing patsy
>>like winston smith... i.e. a trap that suits their purpose....
>>
>>and fireworks better at organised/approved event as well.
>>
>>(that is anyone can have one, just British fireworks and registered
>>event)
>
> are you suggesting that a licence is required to blow up parliament?
certainly... in triplicate...
Jeff Lawrence
news:6df90876-983e-4268...@37g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>Another British tradition, it is our history after all, would seem to
>be disappearing.
You should be glad given that the tradition is all about celebrating a
failure to blow up the Houses of Parliament. Surely we should be celebrate
the ploy's success!
Cheers
Jeff
Ian F.
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This post is OT for UMTM. Please mark off-topic posts as such. Many thanks.
Ian
abelard
(bastards...)
what do you think would happen if guy fawkes had tried
to blow up a tv station instead?
(i hope you now feel more involved)
Vicko Zoomba
> Well Wednesday came and the news was telling me that Halloween is now
> third only in the retail stakes to Xmas and Easter.
>
> Then the day itself Thursday, round my way, sod all fireworks counted
> no more than about five.
>
Well I can assure you that up this way that not only is Mr. Fawkes
alive and well, he's here with a vengance. The bangers are so loud
that I literally feel the buildings shake (no exageration). There's so
many bangers and fireworks it's like being in Afghanistan. Bonfire
Night won't die out here for sure.
McKevvy
FrereTuck
> On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 19:34:07 -0000, "Ian F."
> <wowfab...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>>"allanbonnetracy" <allanbo...@ireland.com> wrote in message
>>news:6df90876-983e-4268...@37g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>This post is OT for UMTM. Please mark off-topic posts as such. Many
>>thanks.
>
> (bastards...)
>
> what do you think would happen if guy fawkes had tried
> to blow up a tv station instead?
>
didnt the yanks do that already? or was it the RAF? sure the IAF have
done it already...
Mike Swift
<no...@invalid.com> writes
>> are you suggesting that a licence is required to blow up parliament?
>
>certainly... in triplicate...
And a risk assessment, didn't the Elfin Safe Tea lot once say carrying
petrol and explosives in the same vehicle was very, very dangerous, mind
you it was a tank.
Mike
--
Michael Swift We do not regard Englishmen as foreigners.
Kirkheaton We look on them only as rather mad Norwegians.
Yorkshire Halvard Lange
abelard
you're probably referring to serbia....
do you think we're on topic now
>> (i hope you now feel more involved)
--
DVDfever
> third only in the retail stakes to Xmas and Easter.
>
> Then the day itself Thursday, round my way, sod all fireworks counted
> no more than about five.
>
> Well I suppose the weather was peeing it down and the weekend probably
> made more sense.
>
> Friday again sod all and tonight just the same.
>
> Another British tradition, it is our history after all, would seem to
> be disappearing.
Disappearing? There's fireworks going off aplenty round here!
Blue
> Well Wednesday came and the news was telling me that Halloween is now
> third only in the retail stakes to Xmas and Easter.
>
> Then the day itself Thursday, round my way, sod all fireworks counted
> no more than about five.
>
> Well I suppose the weather was peeing it down and the weekend probably
> made more sense.
>
> Friday again sod all and tonight just the same.
>
> Another British tradition, it is our history after all, would seem to
> be disappearing.
>
> Fawkes anymore when they�re so busy with the Holocaust, Global Warming
> and Slavery and how we must all pay more tax on these things or you�re
> being wicked.
Well there has been less fireworks tonight but it still seems as
though assholes are pushing them through letterboxes, clearly
the yobbos should be banned from having them as all they are is
minny terrorists.
So some folk go bang bang making a stinking racket.
How about is some idiot did that every night, you'd want them seen to.
Well why should the many put up with the 'music' racket of the few.
be put upon with other peoples noise.
I look forward to the day when they're banned.
MC
Here too.
MC
Blue
> allanbonnetracy wrote:
>> Well Wednesday came and the news was telling me that Halloween is now
>> third only in the retail stakes to Xmas and Easter.
>>
>> Then the day itself Thursday, round my way, sod all fireworks counted
>> no more than about five.
>>
>> Well I suppose the weather was peeing it down and the weekend probably
>> made more sense.
>>
>> Friday again sod all and tonight just the same.
>>
>> Another British tradition, it is our history after all, would seem to
>> be disappearing.
>>
>> But then, the kids, in state schools, probably don�t learn about Guy
>> Fawkes anymore when they�re so busy with the Holocaust, Global Warming
>> and Slavery and how we must all pay more tax on these things or you�re
>> being wicked.
>
>
> Well there has been less fireworks tonight
I mean they weren't as many during the week
martin
bah! Humbug!
DVH
"abelard" <abel...@abelard.org> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:04:43 GMT, FrereTuck <no...@invalid.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:37:16 +0100, abelard wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 19:34:07 -0000, "Ian F."
>>> <wowfab...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>"allanbonnetracy" <allanbo...@ireland.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:6df90876-983e-4268...@37g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>>>>
>>>>This post is OT for UMTM. Please mark off-topic posts as such. Many
>>>>thanks.
>>>
>>> (bastards...)
>>>
>>> what do you think would happen if guy fawkes had tried
>>> to blow up a tv station instead?
>>>
>>
>>didnt the yanks do that already? or was it the RAF? sure the IAF have
>>done it already...
>
> you're probably referring to serbia....
I saw that on TV.
abelard
i knew a guy who had a tv
regards
abelard
wrote:
>In article <pan.2009.11...@invalid.com>, FrereTuck
><no...@invalid.com> writes
>>> are you suggesting that a licence is required to blow up parliament?
>>
>>certainly... in triplicate...
>
>And a risk assessment, didn't the Elfin Safe Tea lot once say carrying
>petrol and explosives in the same vehicle was very, very dangerous, mind
>you it was a tank.
did they show it on tv
William Black
>
> And a risk assessment, didn't the Elfin Safe Tea lot once say carrying
> petrol and explosives in the same vehicle was very, very dangerous, mind
> you it was a tank.
It is very very dangerous.
The people who design them spend lots of time trying to stop big bangs
inside them.
And don't power them with petrol...
That's because fuck-wits sometimes make nasty remarks about how unsafe
military vehicles are...
--
William Black
"Any number under six"
The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke of
Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could beat
single handed with a quarterstaff.
Lou Ravi
> what do you think would happen if guy fawkes had tried
> to blow up a tv station instead?
We'd realise that time travel had been invented yonks ago?
Andy Pandy
"allanbonnetracy" <allanbo...@ireland.com> wrote in message
news:6df90876-983e-4268...@37g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
Where are you FFS? There've been masses of them round here (Manchester),
non-stop for a week, including the usual impressive display at Heaton Park,
the air is still thick with the smell of bonfires. It's geting like
Christmas - starts earlier and earlier each year.
--
Andy
abelard
you're off topic
Robbie
> Well Wednesday came and the news was telling me that Halloween is now
> third only in the retail stakes to Xmas and Easter.
>
> Then the day itself Thursday, round my way, sod all fireworks counted
> no more than about five.
>
> Well I suppose the weather was peeing it down and the weekend probably
> made more sense.
>
> Friday again sod all and tonight just the same.
>
> Another British tradition, it is our history after all, would seem to
> be disappearing.
>
> Fawkes anymore when they�re so busy with the Holocaust, Global Warming
> and Slavery and how we must all pay more tax on these things or you�re
> being wicked.
Kids don't want to celebrate something they can't involved in. They can
buy masks, outfits and pumpkins. They can't buy fireworks so they are
hardly likely to be interested.
J...@a.com
You are mad.
Mike Ross
>On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:06:27 GMT, FrereTuck <no...@invalid.com> wrote:
>>(that is anyone can have one, just British fireworks and registered event)
>
>are you suggesting that a licence is required to blow up parliament?
That might explain the enormous queue at the post office :-)
Mike
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'As I walk along these shores
I am the history within'
Blue
> Blue wrote:
>> Well there has been less fireworks tonight but it still seems as
>> though assholes are pushing them through letterboxes, clearly
>> the yobbos should be banned from having them as all they are is
>> minny terrorists.
>>
>>
>> So some folk go bang bang making a stinking racket.
>>
>> How about is some idiot did that every night, you'd want them seen to.
>>
>> Well why should the many put up with the 'music' racket of the few.
>> be put upon with other peoples noise.
>>
>> I look forward to the day when they're banned.
>
> bah! Humbug!
We don't allow adult with guns but for a fortnight we let
yobs and wanna be terrorists run around our streets with bombs.
We can't trust people not to hand these bombs over to kids
and they get them and they go and maime and kill people.
On the sound side. If everyone turned up their TVs to play this
banging noise all night, all fortnight, a hell of a lot of people
would be disturbed and in need of treatment.
So why should the few be allowed to make a noisey grief for the many.
What on earth are they celebrating any how, they don't know.
Col
"Robbie" <ngrob...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> allanbonnetracy wrote:
>> Well Wednesday came and the news was telling me that Halloween is now
>> third only in the retail stakes to Xmas and Easter.
>>
>> Then the day itself Thursday, round my way, sod all fireworks counted
>> no more than about five.
>>
>> Well I suppose the weather was peeing it down and the weekend probably
>> made more sense.
>>
>> Friday again sod all and tonight just the same.
>>
>> Another British tradition, it is our history after all, would seem to
>> be disappearing.
>>
>> Fawkes anymore when they�re so busy with the Holocaust, Global Warming
>> and Slavery and how we must all pay more tax on these things or you�re
>> being wicked.
>
> Kids don't want to celebrate something they can't involved in. They can
> buy masks, outfits and pumpkins. They can't buy fireworks so they are
> hardly likely to be interested.
Good job too that kids can't buy fireworks.
I mean, they're be mayhem wouldn't there?
They'd only end up throwing them at each other or putting them
through people's letter boxes.....
Col
Mr. Benn
@invalid.com:
> On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:06:27 +0000, FrereTuck wrote:
>
>> British fireworks
>
> that is british 'standard' fireworks...
>
> if you set off a banger, it goes off at 105.3 db...
>
> and if you tie 3 together you get how many db? ;)
110.1dB
Roland Perry
Nov 2009, Robbie <ngrob...@hotmail.com> remarked:
>Kids don't want to celebrate something they can't involved in. They can
>buy masks, outfits and pumpkins. They can't buy fireworks so they are
>hardly likely to be interested.
And there are too many firework displays at other times of year, so it's
no longer such a novelty.
Nottingham City had a big free display on the 5th (good for them, not
waiting until the weekend like the several nearby 'charity' events - the
charity ones are fine at the weekend, but there needs to something on
the 5th).
However they had another big free display on the riverside as recently
as August.
Bonfires make the event special, but these days if the elfin safety
people don't get you, then vandals will (one of the charity bonfires was
torched a week early).
--
Roland Perry
DVDfever
> allanbonnetracy wrote:
> > Well Wednesday came and the news was telling me that Halloween is now
> > third only in the retail stakes to Xmas and Easter.
>
> > Then the day itself Thursday, round my way, sod all fireworks counted
> > no more than about five.
>
> > Well I suppose the weather was peeing it down and the weekend probably
> > made more sense.
>
> > Friday again sod all and tonight just the same.
>
> > Another British tradition, it is our history after all, would seem to
> > be disappearing.
>
> > Fawkes anymore when they’re so busy with the Holocaust, Global Warming
> > and Slavery and how we must all pay more tax on these things or you’re
> > being wicked.
>
> Well there has been less fireworks tonight but it still seems as
> though assholes are pushing them through letterboxes, clearly
> the yobbos should be banned from having them as all they are is
> minny terrorists.
>
> So some folk go bang bang making a stinking racket.
>
> How about is some idiot did that every night, you'd want them seen to.
>
> Well why should the many put up with the 'music' racket of the few.
> be put upon with other peoples noise.
>
> I look forward to the day when they're banned.
You miserable bastard. You must've enjoyed them as a kid.
CP
wrote:
> But then, the kids, in state schools, probably don’t learn about Guy
> Fawkes anymore when they’re so busy with the Holocaust, Global Warming
> and Slavery and how we must all pay more tax on these things or you’re
> being wicked.
Maybe when they 'find out' that Guy Fawkes was a Muslim, they'll
reintroduce it into the history syllabus.
Paul C. Dickie
<no...@invalid.com> writes
>On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:06:27 +0000, FrereTuck wrote:
>> British fireworks
>
>that is british 'standard' fireworks...
Which have been made in China for about 20 years.
>if you set off a banger, it goes off at 105.3 db...
I doubt that.
>and if you tie 3 together you get how many db? ;)
Little more than just one, but with a longer peak volume.
Do you really suppose they'd explode at exactly the same time?
--
< Paul >
William Black
Paul C. Dickie
<willia...@hotmail.co.uk> writes
>Paul C. Dickie wrote:
>> In message <pan.2009.11...@invalid.com>, FrereTuck
>><no...@invalid.com> writes
>> Little more than just one, but with a longer peak volume.
>> Do you really suppose they'd explode at exactly the same time?
>
>Possibly...
Or possibly not.
>http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=226037
You might be able to light the "touch paper" at exactly the same time,
but the duration of the burn before the bang (I'll not call it a
detonation as I know that gunpowder just deflagrates) may still vary by
as much as a second or two.
--
< Paul >
Ian
"Mr. Benn" <%%@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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Assuming all three bangers are identical in every way, and go off
simultaneously....... 110.05 dB
Cynic
<allanbo...@ireland.com> wrote:
>Friday again sod all and tonight just the same.
>Another British tradition, it is our history after all, would seem to
>be disappearing.
At �40 for a small box of piddling rockets and 10 second wonders, I
doubt people had enough DIY fireworks to last long enough for you to
notice.
At least there are still *many* organised events where you can see a
darn good display of �1000's going up in smoke without paying
anything.
--
Cynic
Blue
> On 7 Nov, 20:46, Blue <b...@there.com> wrote:
>> allanbonnetracy wrote:
>>> Well Wednesday came and the news was telling me that Halloween is now
>>> third only in the retail stakes to Xmas and Easter.
>>> Then the day itself Thursday, round my way, sod all fireworks counted
>>> no more than about five.
>>> Well I suppose the weather was peeing it down and the weekend probably
>>> made more sense.
>>> Friday again sod all and tonight just the same.
>>> Another British tradition, it is our history after all, would seem to
>>> be disappearing.
>>> Fawkes anymore when they�re so busy with the Holocaust, Global Warming
>>> and Slavery and how we must all pay more tax on these things or you�re
>>> being wicked.
>> Well there has been less fireworks tonight but it still seems as
>> though assholes are pushing them through letterboxes, clearly
>> the yobbos should be banned from having them as all they are is
>> minny terrorists.
>>
>> So some folk go bang bang making a stinking racket.
>>
>> How about is some idiot did that every night, you'd want them seen to.
>>
>> Well why should the many put up with the 'music' racket of the few.
>> be put upon with other peoples noise.
>>
>> I look forward to the day when they're banned.
>
> You miserable bastard. You must've enjoyed them as a kid.
Way back when they were short on bang and little more on lights.
Now all I hear is military cannons and suburban gun play.
Mr X
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MattLB
> DVDfever wrote:
> > On 7 Nov, 20:46, Blue <b...@there.com> wrote:
> >> allanbonnetracy wrote:
> >>> Well Wednesday came and the news was telling me that Halloween is now
> >>> third only in the retail stakes to Xmas and Easter.
> >>> Then the day itself Thursday, round my way, sod all fireworks counted
> >>> no more than about five.
> >>> Well I suppose the weather was peeing it down and the weekend probably
> >>> made more sense.
> >>> Friday again sod all and tonight just the same.
> >>> Another British tradition, it is our history after all, would seem to
> >>> be disappearing.
> >>> Fawkes anymore when they’re so busy with the Holocaust, Global Warming
> >>> and Slavery and how we must all pay more tax on these things or you’re
> >>> being wicked.
> >> Well there has been less fireworks tonight but it still seems as
> >> though assholes are pushing them through letterboxes, clearly
> >> the yobbos should be banned from having them as all they are is
> >> minny terrorists.
>
> >> So some folk go bang bang making a stinking racket.
>
> >> How about is some idiot did that every night, you'd want them seen to.
>
> >> Well why should the many put up with the 'music' racket of the few.
> >> be put upon with other peoples noise.
>
> >> I look forward to the day when they're banned.
>
> > You miserable bastard. You must've enjoyed them as a kid.
>
> Way back when they were short on bang and little more on lights.
>
> Now all I hear is military cannons and suburban gun play.
I have a 20 minute walk home from work and on the 5th there wasn't a
break in the bangs for the whole time. Coming from all over the city
it sounded like being in a war zone.
MattLB
CP
Does your walk home take in Canal Street, then?
Ophelia
With which you seem to be very well acquainted...
CP
Nope, never been there actually...