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Ivan

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Nov 23, 2009, 5:16:44 AM11/23/09
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"As well as being likely to introduce pay-TV for digital channels ITV2, ITV3
and ITV4, Norman is set to cut costs, which could mean big job losses, said
City sources close to him. ITV has already axed 1,500 jobs and aims to save
�155 million this year."

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DVDfever

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Nov 23, 2009, 6:04:40 AM11/23/09
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> Read more:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/article-1229849/New-ITV-boss-set-cha...

Expect people to just stop watching unless they're part of the basic
Sky channels, which I assumed they were anyway.

Martin

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Nov 23, 2009, 6:08:09 AM11/23/09
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"DVDfever" <pick...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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===

I'm well pissed-off by this news. I watch a lot of repeats on ITV3. If ITV3
becomes pay TV (TopUpTV on Freeview?) then I'll have to buy a new TopUpTV
DTTV box and I won't be able to use Media Center on my PC to record from
ITV3 since there's no way of inserting a subscription card ;-)

Mike Swift

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Nov 23, 2009, 6:40:12 AM11/23/09
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In article <e84f1dbc-7c8a-457a...@e20g2000vbb.googlegroup
s.com>, DVDfever <pick...@googlemail.com> writes

>Expect people to just stop watching unless they're part of the basic Sky
>channels, which I assumed they were anyway.

ITV3 is probably the ITV channel I watch the most but I certainly
wouldn't pay for it.

Mike

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Light of Aria

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Nov 23, 2009, 8:26:22 AM11/23/09
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<A.C...@DENTURESsussex.ac.uk> wrote in message
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> Thus spake Mike Swift (mike....@yeton.co.uk) unto the assembled
> multitudes:

>
>> ITV3 is probably the ITV channel I watch the most but I certainly
>> wouldn't pay for it.
>
> I think I'd be willing to pay, provided that the channel(s) didn't also
> carry
> adverts. I'm not going to let them charge me *and* expect me to endure 4
> minutes of commercials every 15 minutes.
>
> --
> Andy Clews
> University of Sussex
> *** Remove DENTURES if replying by email ***


It's never stopped them in the past.

Light of Aria

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Nov 23, 2009, 8:28:25 AM11/23/09
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"Ivan" <ivan'H'ol...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Big Knob plans to charge fee for services I never use.

Okie cokey. ;-)


Fred X

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Nov 23, 2009, 9:43:16 AM11/23/09
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On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:40:12 -0000, Mike Swift <mike....@yeton.co.uk>
wrote:

> In article <e84f1dbc-7c8a-457a...@e20g2000vbb.googlegroup
> s.com>, DVDfever <pick...@googlemail.com> writes
>> Expect people to just stop watching unless they're part of the basic Sky
>> channels, which I assumed they were anyway.
>
> ITV3 is probably the ITV channel I watch the most but I certainly
> wouldn't pay for it.
>

That's exactly my attitude as well, which is why I think this could be
one of the dumbest decisions made by TV execs in recent years. ITV
seem to think that this new guy could be their saviour, but he sounds
to me like he could be Charles Allen Mk2

Fred X

Fred X

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Nov 23, 2009, 9:45:04 AM11/23/09
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On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 12:01:47 -0000, <A.C...@denturessussex.ac.uk> wrote:

> Thus spake Mike Swift (mike....@yeton.co.uk) unto the assembled
> multitudes:
>

>> ITV3 is probably the ITV channel I watch the most but I certainly
>> wouldn't pay for it.
>

> I think I'd be willing to pay, provided that the channel(s) didn't also
> carry
> adverts. I'm not going to let them charge me *and* expect me to endure 4
> minutes of commercials every 15 minutes.

Well it is Sky's success that has inspired this decision, so I suspect
that you might have to put up with both! Or just buy a Freeview PVR and
avoid the ads.

Fred X

Ivan

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Nov 23, 2009, 10:13:30 AM11/23/09
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"Fred X" <alex...@himki.net> wrote in message
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Of course a major headache for the commercial broadcasters nowadays must be
the ever increasing number of PVRs, which are not only capable of being set
up to record at least a whole week's programming in advance but also have
the ability to skip the adverts, IMV that will eventually leave them with
only two realistic options in future, which will be product placement or
switch to a subscription service.

JNugent

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Nov 23, 2009, 1:22:39 PM11/23/09
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They'll have to drop off Freeview...

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Abo

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Nov 24, 2009, 4:40:30 AM11/24/09
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"Ivan" <ivan'H'ol...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Oh well, no Touring Cars for me if they charge. It's the only thing I watch
on any of those channels...

Light of Aria

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Nov 24, 2009, 9:57:39 AM11/24/09
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"Abo" <n...@spam.thanks> wrote in message
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There's always Halfords car park on a Friday night. ;-o

Fred X

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Nov 24, 2009, 10:30:12 AM11/24/09
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I use a PVR, but even when you skips ads you can still perceive them
and get the gist of them so they still have some effect IMO.

Fred X

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Martin

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Nov 24, 2009, 1:47:20 PM11/24/09
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"Mike Henry" <{$mrtickle$}@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> In <op.u3wn0...@skynet.wag54gs>, "Fred X" <alex...@himki.net>

> wrote:
>
>>> Of course a major headache for the commercial broadcasters nowadays must
>>> be the ever increasing number of PVRs, which are not only capable of
>>> being set up to record at least a whole week's programming in advance
>>> but also have the ability to skip the adverts, IMV that will eventually
>>> leave them with only two realistic options in future, which will be
>>> product placement or switch to a subscription service.
>>>
>>
>>I use a PVR, but even when you skips ads you can still perceive them
>>and get the gist of them so they still have some effect IMO.
>
> Hmm, that shouldn't happen with a good PVR. With my TiVo ad breaks take me
> about 6-8 seconds from the time I press the first button on the remote to
> the time we're back at normal speed resuming from the exact start of the
> next section of the programme. Advert breaks scream past at 60x speed, and
> then TiVo jumps back a bit from where you pressed play, factoring in a
> delay to cover your reaction time - so you land back where you wanted to
> resume from even though you saw it flying past :-)
>
> I can understand that if you have to faff about with trickplay to get back
> to the start of the next section at 1x speed, you'd probably give up and
> FF through the adverts at a much slower speed and as a consequence be able
> to see them. But it shouldn't really be like that.

Remember that guy from an American (I think) TV station who thought that it
was everyone's duty to watch each and every advert, and that even thinking
about skipping the ads should be a criminal offence? ;-) Not sure which
planet he lived on!

It's a shame that the skipping facilities of Windows Media Center are so
poor. Not only can you not go to a random place (you need to skim through,
albeit at high speed) but when you press play it doesn't jump back to take
into account reaction time.

Are there any PVRs that allow you to access the programmes that they have
recorded (eg as MPGs on the hard disk) so you can watch them on another PC
over the network or edit out the adverts using AVS Video Remaker or similar
software?

Mark Carver

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Nov 24, 2009, 2:53:39 PM11/24/09
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Mike Henry wrote:

>
> All the ITV channels have been FTA unencrypted on satellite for years.

<pedant mode>

Actually a handful of ITV 1 regions are FTV encrypted, and have been for about
a year now, because they were moved to a wide beam on Astra 2B.

<pedant mode>

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Mark
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Mark Carver

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Nov 24, 2009, 3:41:11 PM11/24/09
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Mike Henry wrote:
> In <7n2ru4F...@mid.individual.net>, Mark Carver

> <mark....@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Mike Henry wrote:
>>
>>> All the ITV channels have been FTA unencrypted on satellite for years.

>> Actually a handful of ITV 1 regions are FTV encrypted, and have been for about

>> a year now, because they were moved to a wide beam on Astra 2B.

> Ah yes, I'd forgotten that. Happy to be corrected! Freesat viewers
> basically can't get those regions then?

No. In fact here in Meridian North land (aka Hannington's patch), we are given
Central South (aka Oxford's patch) on Freesat.
Same regional news programme (Meridian Tonight) but Oxford ads, and Central
non news regional stuff, like Birmingham City football !

G Bell

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Nov 25, 2009, 6:15:22 AM11/25/09
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A.C...@DENTURESsussex.ac.uk writes:

>Thus spake Mike Swift (mike....@yeton.co.uk) unto the assembled multitudes:

>> ITV3 is probably the ITV channel I watch the most but I certainly


>> wouldn't pay for it.

>I think I'd be willing to pay, provided that the channel(s) didn't also carry


>adverts. I'm not going to let them charge me *and* expect me to endure 4
>minutes of commercials every 15 minutes.

More like every twelve minutes. Again it looks like they are ignoring
the elephant in the room, namely ITV itself. They managed to float along
on inflated advertising income but the idea hasn't really worked and it
has never been anywhere near as profitable or popular as it was as a
network of independent franchises that it was before Robinson and co.
fucked it up big time by going merger crazy.

Graham

Fred X

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Nov 25, 2009, 10:22:58 AM11/25/09
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On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:17:51 -0000, Mike Henry
<{$mrtickle$}@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> In <op.u3wn0...@skynet.wag54gs>, "Fred X" <alex...@himki.net>
> wrote:
>

> Hmm, that shouldn't happen with a good PVR. With my TiVo ad breaks take
> me
> about 6-8 seconds from the time I press the first button on the remote to
> the time we're back at normal speed resuming from the exact start of the
> next section of the programme. Advert breaks scream past at 60x speed,
> and
> then TiVo jumps back a bit from where you pressed play, factoring in a
> delay to cover your reaction time - so you land back where you wanted to
> resume from even though you saw it flying past :-)
>
> I can understand that if you have to faff about with trickplay to get
> back
> to the start of the next section at 1x speed, you'd probably give up and
> FF through the adverts at a much slower speed and as a consequence be
> able
> to see them. But it shouldn't really be like that.

I use a Humax PVR and just have it set to jump 30secs at a time and press
it about 6-7 times during the breaks.

Fred X

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