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Lee J. Moore

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Aug 2, 2002, 6:30:13 PM8/2/02
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The first time I sat up and noticed Pattie Coldwell was when she
presented 'Espresso' with her partner on Channel Five. She was
fighting breast cancer at the time. I also remember her as a
presenter on 'Loose Women' which later became 'Live Talk'.

When she co-presented Espresso, I'll never forget her insisting
on working despite the fact she was loosing a lot of hair and
looking deathly pale at times. She was clearly very ill but
didn't let it affect her work and in time she overcame two bouts
of breast cancer.

Anyway, according to an article in Womans Own this week, she has
been diagnosed with cancer of the liver, the lung and they've
also found two cancerous tumours in her brain (you should see
the size of them on her X-rays!). She has just a few months to
live. It's definitely terminal this time and totally
inoperable.

I think there was only Pattie and Kaye Adams who made us take
Loose Women/Live Talk half-seriously. Jane Moore, Nadia Sawahla
and Karren Brady used to stumble through their autocues like
they were on day experience and it wasn't long before either
Pattie or Kaye had to accompany one of them to the 'interview
sofa' to keep discussions consistent.

By all accounts, this lady has a great attitude towards her
impending death. Here's hoping her last few months are as
comfortable as possible.
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Roger the cabin boy

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Aug 2, 2002, 8:02:08 PM8/2/02
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"Lee J. Moore" <le...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
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Sad news indeed - first time I saw her was on that Daytime prog on the BBC
(forget name) and she was the better than all the others, with what, came
across as genuine sincerity to callers.


Robin Carmody

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Aug 2, 2002, 11:12:40 PM8/2/02
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Lee J. Moore <le...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
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> Anyway, according to an article in Womans Own this week, she has
> been diagnosed with cancer of the liver, the lung and they've
> also found two cancerous tumours in her brain (you should see
> the size of them on her X-rays!). She has just a few months to
> live. It's definitely terminal this time and totally
> inoperable.

Very sad news.

I remember her presenting "You and Yours" on Radio 4, when my mum used to
listen to it and it had this lovely Radiophonic (I'm guessing) theme tune.
--
Robin Carmody, Portland, Dorset


Mike Plowman

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Aug 3, 2002, 3:14:13 AM8/3/02
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On 2 Aug 2002 22:30:13 GMT, "Lee J. Moore" <le...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:


>
>By all accounts, this lady has a great attitude towards her
>impending death. Here's hoping her last few months are as
>comfortable as possible.

Great shame but lots of people die of cancer and it doresn't suddenly
make them Mother Theresa. I can't remember the details but wasn't
there some story in the press some years back about what a cow she was
to work with?

Good to hear she's facing the inevitable with good spirit though. My
aunt died a couple of weeks ago after a couple of years fighting
various cancers and really wrung joy out of every day she had. I guess
it's not how or when you die but how eell you live that matters.
--
Mike Plowman
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but it didn't amount to much." Russell Harty

Roger the cabin boy

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Aug 3, 2002, 3:46:24 AM8/3/02
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Great shame but lots of people die of cancer and it doresn't suddenly
make them Mother Theresa. I can't remember the details but wasn't
there some story in the press some years back about what a cow she was
to work with?
<snip>
No, thats Cilla Black surely.


Ruby Flipper

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Aug 3, 2002, 4:28:14 AM8/3/02
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"Roger the cabin boy" <dmrt46...@clara.co.uk> found a crayon and
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>Sad news indeed - first time I saw her was on that Daytime prog on the BBC
>(forget name) and she was the better than all the others, with what, came
>across as genuine sincerity to callers.

Open Air wasn't it, plus she was on Pebble Mill when Judi Spiers
wasn't presenting.

I thought she was looking rough when I last saw her on telvision; I
didn't know she was ill.

Sue

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Aug 3, 2002, 4:48:47 AM8/3/02
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On Sat, 03 Aug 2002 08:14:13 +0100, Mike Plowman
<mike.p...@dial.pipex.com> wrote:

>On 2 Aug 2002 22:30:13 GMT, "Lee J. Moore" <le...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
>
>
>>
>>By all accounts, this lady has a great attitude towards her
>>impending death. Here's hoping her last few months are as
>>comfortable as possible.
>
>Great shame but lots of people die of cancer and it doresn't suddenly
>make them Mother Theresa.

I don't think Lee was implying that she was.

>I can't remember the details but wasn't
>there some story in the press some years back about what a cow she was
>to work with?

Possibly, but as a journalist/presenter I liked her style, and often
wondered why she'd never made it 'bigger' than she did.

>Good to hear she's facing the inevitable with good spirit though. My
>aunt died a couple of weeks ago after a couple of years fighting
>various cancers and really wrung joy out of every day she had. I guess

>it's not how or when you die but how well you live that matters.

Indeed. My Aunt, who eventually died 25 years after her first cancer
diagnosis, had a similar attitude.

Sad news, though, cow to work with or not. TV will be losing one of
its better presenters.

Sue.
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Lee J. Moore

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Aug 3, 2002, 6:20:05 AM8/3/02
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Hello Mike Plowman, in uk.media.tv.misc recently, you wrote:
>
> On 2 Aug 2002 22:30:13 GMT, "Lee J. Moore"
> <le...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
>
>
>>
>>By all accounts, this lady has a great attitude towards her
>>impending death. Here's hoping her last few months are as
>>comfortable as possible.
>
> Great shame but lots of people die of cancer and it doresn't
> suddenly make them Mother Theresa.

I agree.

> I can't remember the details but wasn't there some story in
> the press some years back about what a cow she was to work
> with?

I never saw that. I just enjoyed what I saw of her on TV.
Often making daytime trash digestible.

> Good to hear she's facing the inevitable with good spirit though.

Indeed.

> My aunt died a couple of weeks ago after a couple of years
> fighting various cancers and really wrung joy out of every day
> she had.

That's good to hear.

> I guess it's not how or when you die but how eell you live
> that matters.

Indeed. I think most of us have lost people to cancer (three
close relations and two family friends here) and in one case at
least, the understandable fear of death totally overwhelmed her
and made her last few months here all the more difficult.

I'm not claiming that Pattie is Mother Theresa. Just that I
think she had a talent which will be missed and her attitude
towards death is admirable.

Regards

Lee J. Moore

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Aug 3, 2002, 6:32:29 AM8/3/02
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Hello gree...@BOLLOCKSyahoo.co.uk, in uk.media.tv.misc recently, you wrote:
>
> Well, it's hardly surprising, the amount she must've smoked.
> She sounded like Barry White with laryngitis. Sounds like!
> Sounds! Still sounds!

I was surprised to hear she only stopped smoking in 2001
considering her earlier cancer scares. Apparently she dismissed
some of her brain tumour symptoms for months because she thought
they were related to giving up the cigs.

JNugent

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Aug 3, 2002, 11:20:37 AM8/3/02
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"Sue" <s...@aloss.com> wrote in message
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> Mike Plowman <mike.p...@dial.pipex.com> wrote:

> >On 2 Aug 2002 22:30:13 GMT, "Lee J. Moore" <le...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:

> >>By all accounts, this lady has a great attitude towards her
> >>impending death. Here's hoping her last few months are as
> >>comfortable as possible.

> >Great shame but lots of people die of cancer and it doresn't suddenly

> >make them Mother Theresa. I can't remember the details but wasn't


> >there some story in the press some years back about what a cow she was
> >to work with?

> Possibly, but as a journalist/presenter I liked her style, and often
> wondered why she'd never made it 'bigger' than she did.

Because she moved into, and then largely specialised in, "consumer stuff".
Only Esther Whatsisname has ever really made it big in that genre in the UK.

To add to the string of "I remember when"s, I first remember her from
Granada's local news magazines, back in the 1970s.

She was miles better than Anna Ford (who was there at about the same time),
but to her credit, I don't think Pattie would have been comfortable with
having to take elocution lessons to get on. Today, her accent wouldn't hold
her back, just her commendable lack of "laddette" crudeness.


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Mark Stevens

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Aug 3, 2002, 5:12:55 PM8/3/02
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On Sat, 3 Aug 2002 09:50:53 +0000 (UTC), gree...@BOLLOCKSyahoo.co.uk
wrote:

>Well, it's hardly surprising, the amount she must've smoked. She
>sounded like Barry White with laryngitis. Sounds like! Sounds! Still
>sounds!

I think it's TV Cream that describes her as "the thinking man's Pat
Butcher".


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Lee J. Moore

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Aug 3, 2002, 6:59:25 PM8/3/02
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Hello Mark Stevens, in uk.media.tv.misc recently, you wrote:
>
[..]

> I think it's TV Cream that describes her as "the thinking man's Pat
> Butcher".

I was wondering what happened to her husband, Tony Kerner (I
hope I got the name right and I've not just researched the wrong
Tony), who she co-presented Espresso with. A search revealed
very little. In fact, it revealed:

I am a former journalist and television presenter who
gave it up to concentrate on writing. I am married and
live on the south coast of England and have three
daughters, aged from eight to 14.

Interests: I am writing a novel (*very funny!) and a
series of children's books.

Published writer: No
Freelance: No

Did he give up television presenting? Or did television
presenting give him up? Was Espresso his only (or first) TV
job? Was he wheeled in by Channel 5 to be a Richard to Patties
Judy? Surely it's no coincidence when married couples happen to
co-present any TV show produced after 1988?

Lee J. Moore

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Aug 3, 2002, 7:03:42 PM8/3/02
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Hello Lee J. Moore, in uk.media.tv.misc recently, you wrote:
[..]
> I was wondering what happened to her husband, Tony Kerner

That should be ex-husband. She's just married another guy.

Mike Plowman

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Aug 4, 2002, 5:18:46 AM8/4/02
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On Sat, 03 Aug 2002 09:48:47 +0100, Sue <s...@aloss.com> wrote:

>>I can't remember the details but wasn't
>>there some story in the press some years back about what a cow she was
>>to work with?
>
>Possibly, but as a journalist/presenter I liked her style, and often
>wondered why she'd never made it 'bigger' than she did.
>

I liked her style too. I guess she didn't really fit in with the
look/accent mix that most presenters seem to need to get on in TV
these days. She was certainly a million times better than the likes of
Fiona 'I'm only here 'cos I married the producer' Phillips

Mike Plowman

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Aug 4, 2002, 5:22:58 AM8/4/02
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On 3 Aug 2002 10:20:05 GMT, "Lee J. Moore" <le...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:


>
>I'm not claiming that Pattie is Mother Theresa. Just that I
>think she had a talent which will be missed and her attitude
>towards death is admirable.
>

I agree with you totally Lee. Always liked her and it was a shame she
didn't ever make it to bigger things nationally. Ditto Bob Greaves
who should have been reading News At ten.

The Future Hero Of Light Entertainment

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Aug 4, 2002, 11:38:34 AM8/4/02
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Cilla Black's DEAD???!!??!?!??!?

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Mike Plowman

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On Sun, 4 Aug 2002 15:38:34 +0000 (UTC), wi...@millinship.co.uk (The
Future Hero Of Light Entertainment) wrote:

>On Sat, 3 Aug 2002 08:46:24 +0100, "Roger the cabin boy"
><dmrt46...@clara.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>Great shame but lots of people die of cancer and it doresn't suddenly
>>make them Mother Theresa. I can't remember the details but wasn't
>>there some story in the press some years back about what a cow she was
>>to work with?
>><snip>
>>No, thats Cilla Black surely.
>
>Cilla Black's DEAD???!!??!?!??!?

It's worse than that. She's alive!

G Bell

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Aug 5, 2002, 5:55:27 AM8/5/02
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Sue <s...@aloss.com> writes:

>>I can't remember the details but wasn't
>>there some story in the press some years back about what a cow she was
>>to work with?

>Possibly, but as a journalist/presenter I liked her style, and often
>wondered why she'd never made it 'bigger' than she did.

I think rather like Kate Adie she didn't have the looks for primetime so
beloved of TV execs, Fiona Bruce, et al.

Graham

Gordon Davie

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Aug 18, 2002, 9:03:06 AM8/18/02
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Mike Plowman <mike.p...@dial.pipex.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 4 Aug 2002 15:38:34 +0000 (UTC), wi...@millinship.co.uk (The
> Future Hero Of Light Entertainment) wrote:
>
> >On Sat, 3 Aug 2002 08:46:24 +0100, "Roger the cabin boy"
> ><dmrt46...@clara.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >>Great shame but lots of people die of cancer and it doresn't suddenly
> >>make them Mother Theresa. I can't remember the details but wasn't
> >>there some story in the press some years back about what a cow she was
> >>to work with?
> >><snip>
> >>No, thats Cilla Black surely.
> >
> >Cilla Black's DEAD???!!??!?!??!?
>
> It's worse than that. She's alive!

And it's all the Goodies' fault.

--
Gordon Davie
Edinburgh, Scotland

"Slipped the surly bonds of Earth...to touch the face of God"

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