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Mike Swift
May 14, 2021, 10:01:18 AM5/14/21
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Ye Gods, just when you thought the Wokery in Britain couldn't get any
worse I read this headline.
Train Company Apologises After Conductor Said 'Good Morning, Ladies and
Gentlemen'
The mind boggles, as a Gentleman I'm offended by the railway company
apologising to this "Non Binary" idiot.
Who cares if they don't know if they are Arthur or Martha, 99.99% of the
population couldn't care less about how a conductor addresses them.
What are they supposed to say "Good Morning things?", or spend 20
minutes mentioning every life form on the planet, Non Binary, I give up,
thank God I'm on my way out.
Mike
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worse I read this headline.
Train Company Apologises After Conductor Said 'Good Morning, Ladies and
Gentlemen'
The mind boggles, as a Gentleman I'm offended by the railway company
apologising to this "Non Binary" idiot.
Who cares if they don't know if they are Arthur or Martha, 99.99% of the
population couldn't care less about how a conductor addresses them.
What are they supposed to say "Good Morning things?", or spend 20
minutes mentioning every life form on the planet, Non Binary, I give up,
thank God I'm on my way out.
Mike
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Kirkheaton We look on them only as rather mad Norwegians.
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AgentX
May 14, 2021, 11:37:29 AM5/14/21
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long before political correctness was invented. We used to make fun of her
for it.
K
Oliver
May 14, 2021, 2:24:01 PM5/14/21
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On 14/05/2021 16:37, AgentX wrote:
> Well said. We used to have a teacher who always addressed us as "You
> people" long before political correctness was invented. We used to make
> fun of her for it.
I used to use, "You lot".
> Well said. We used to have a teacher who always addressed us as "You
> people" long before political correctness was invented. We used to make
> fun of her for it.
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Indy Jess John
May 14, 2021, 3:31:04 PM5/14/21
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Thumper
May 14, 2021, 5:36:45 PM5/14/21
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On 14/05/2021 14:53, Mike Swift wrote:
> Ye Gods, just when you thought the Wokery in Britain couldn't get any
> worse I read this headline.
>
> Train Company Apologises After Conductor Said 'Good Morning, Ladies and
> Gentlemen'
>
> The mind boggles, as a Gentleman I'm offended by the railway company
> apologising to this "Non Binary" idiot.
>
> Who cares if they don't know if they are Arthur or Martha, 99.99% of the
> population couldn't care less about how a conductor addresses them.
>
> What are they supposed to say "Good Morning things?", or spend 20
> minutes mentioning every life form on the planet, Non Binary, I give up,
> thank God I'm on my way out.
>
> Mike
>
I quite liked the reply on Twitter which said the Non-Binary person
> Ye Gods, just when you thought the Wokery in Britain couldn't get any
> worse I read this headline.
>
> Train Company Apologises After Conductor Said 'Good Morning, Ladies and
> Gentlemen'
>
> The mind boggles, as a Gentleman I'm offended by the railway company
> apologising to this "Non Binary" idiot.
>
> Who cares if they don't know if they are Arthur or Martha, 99.99% of the
> population couldn't care less about how a conductor addresses them.
>
> What are they supposed to say "Good Morning things?", or spend 20
> minutes mentioning every life form on the planet, Non Binary, I give up,
> thank God I'm on my way out.
>
> Mike
>
should Identify as a car and drive the fuck home.
DaveG
May 14, 2021, 5:59:48 PM5/14/21
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And it was long enough ago that the words for any of the "boys" who might
not want to identify as boys were not the sort they wanted to hear.
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DaveG
May 14, 2021, 6:09:43 PM5/14/21
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On Fri, 14 May 2021 21:59:46 +0000, DaveG wrote:
> Junior and senior schools were single sex for us so it didn't come up. And
> it was long enough ago that the words for any of the "boys" who might not
> want to identify as boys were not the sort they wanted to hear.
Thinking further about it, I didn't keep in touch with anyone from school.
> Junior and senior schools were single sex for us so it didn't come up. And
> it was long enough ago that the words for any of the "boys" who might not
> want to identify as boys were not the sort they wanted to hear.
I think I've met maybe three ex-school friends over the years. I can
remember discussing university places back then and I don't recall
anyone every discussion choosing a university place because their friends
were also going there. We all chose based on what we wanted and went our
separate ways. I've no real interest now, 40 years later, in knowing
what ever happened to them or how many might be something other
heterosexual. I supposed, based on the odds, there's a chance someone
I went to school with might have eventually "come out" as something
other than a binary male, but I really don't care. Live and let live.
For future reference, maybe train announcements should be "Ladies,
Gentlemen and Others"
And in case any of the "woke" PC brigade are here, "Ladies" always go
first because that's just what a proper "Gentleman" does, and "Others"
come last because they are least likely to be there, ie the minority,
despite what the media might portray.
<shrug>
Mike Swift
May 14, 2021, 7:44:49 PM5/14/21
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Brian Gaff (Sofa)
May 15, 2021, 3:16:52 AM5/15/21
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Might I also point out that George Michael called his greatest hits album
Ladies and Gentlemen.
I think we are all getting far too touchy myself. If you had been called
what I often get then maybe you might have a moan. Blink in the corner is a
common one. People assume if we cannot see we may be stupid or deaf as well.
Admittedly often the term is used as slang, but how many people in
wheelchairs get called crips or whatever? Its really a good rule of thumb
to use terms in common usage and if that usage changes then its up to your
boss to say so, not for you to assume things. I get a lot of issues at
hospitals, where, I'm sure one might expect people to be enlightened. If I
had a fiver for every time a porter or volunteer arrives with a wheelchair
when it clearly says on my records blind, I'd be living in a mansion by now.
I'm told that occurs at airports as well. Basically they need to ask what
help do you require, not assume you are some decrepit wreck.
Likewise, Most people identify as a sexual type in the main. In my view
when dealing with a lot of people to have to prolong a greeting by listing
every possible type would be time consuming and really silly. Neither ladies
or gentleman are offensive to most people I know of variable sexual
orientation, Indeed, there is a case to be made that this information should
be each persons personal data, and unless they want to flaunt it, it should
always be assumed you are one of the binary groups you resemble. I mean
what happens if somebody manages to genetically modify a pig so it has a
human brain?
God help us if aliens land is all I'll say. Why not at the moment use Good
morning Folks, I wonder what objection to that might be.
I sat listening to a lady who wishes to be known as an actor last night
because the presenter said actress.
If that is really important, why does the male and female versions exist?
After all a guy who was dark skinned did say, unfortunately as a black
actor, I tend to get parts like.... Maybe he should have said Actor of
Colour?
I am reminded of that classic Peter Cook and Dudley Moore sketch about the
bloke who turns up to a casting for Tarzan who only had one leg. And there
is peter trying not to offend by coming up with more and more silly reasons
why he would not do, and uses the word unidexter.
They obviously saw coming back then what is in fact here now.
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Ladies and Gentlemen.
I think we are all getting far too touchy myself. If you had been called
what I often get then maybe you might have a moan. Blink in the corner is a
common one. People assume if we cannot see we may be stupid or deaf as well.
Admittedly often the term is used as slang, but how many people in
wheelchairs get called crips or whatever? Its really a good rule of thumb
to use terms in common usage and if that usage changes then its up to your
boss to say so, not for you to assume things. I get a lot of issues at
hospitals, where, I'm sure one might expect people to be enlightened. If I
had a fiver for every time a porter or volunteer arrives with a wheelchair
when it clearly says on my records blind, I'd be living in a mansion by now.
I'm told that occurs at airports as well. Basically they need to ask what
help do you require, not assume you are some decrepit wreck.
Likewise, Most people identify as a sexual type in the main. In my view
when dealing with a lot of people to have to prolong a greeting by listing
every possible type would be time consuming and really silly. Neither ladies
or gentleman are offensive to most people I know of variable sexual
orientation, Indeed, there is a case to be made that this information should
be each persons personal data, and unless they want to flaunt it, it should
always be assumed you are one of the binary groups you resemble. I mean
what happens if somebody manages to genetically modify a pig so it has a
human brain?
God help us if aliens land is all I'll say. Why not at the moment use Good
morning Folks, I wonder what objection to that might be.
I sat listening to a lady who wishes to be known as an actor last night
because the presenter said actress.
If that is really important, why does the male and female versions exist?
After all a guy who was dark skinned did say, unfortunately as a black
actor, I tend to get parts like.... Maybe he should have said Actor of
Colour?
I am reminded of that classic Peter Cook and Dudley Moore sketch about the
bloke who turns up to a casting for Tarzan who only had one leg. And there
is peter trying not to offend by coming up with more and more silly reasons
why he would not do, and uses the word unidexter.
They obviously saw coming back then what is in fact here now.
Brian
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Brian Gaff (Sofa)
May 15, 2021, 3:25:27 AM5/15/21
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One does have to be careful, when blind though to not use terms like Angle
Grinder man, since more and more Women are using them successfully these
days.
I do see the problem with Irish, Polish or Blonde Jokes of course as its
stereotyping, but we all do that. I mean the standard image of disabled is a
person in a wheelchair, and of a blind person is either hanging off the side
of a dog or with soup stains down their shirt etc.
Its often a shock to find lady mechanics or whatever, since the stereotypes
exist, but these never did make sense as many jobs these days have no real
gender issues.
I do know that many blokes feel pressured to remove their girlie picks from
the inside of their lockers when a lady is in the team, but most ladies I
know just laugh it off, after all, nothing to stop them having pictures of
naked men as a tv engineer of the female gender suggested. Sex is there and
we are far too prudish still.
However, all I can say is that in this case, it all seems pretty trivial
when you look at sex and colour discrimination in the job market these days
still.
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Grinder man, since more and more Women are using them successfully these
days.
I do see the problem with Irish, Polish or Blonde Jokes of course as its
stereotyping, but we all do that. I mean the standard image of disabled is a
person in a wheelchair, and of a blind person is either hanging off the side
of a dog or with soup stains down their shirt etc.
Its often a shock to find lady mechanics or whatever, since the stereotypes
exist, but these never did make sense as many jobs these days have no real
gender issues.
I do know that many blokes feel pressured to remove their girlie picks from
the inside of their lockers when a lady is in the team, but most ladies I
know just laugh it off, after all, nothing to stop them having pictures of
naked men as a tv engineer of the female gender suggested. Sex is there and
we are far too prudish still.
However, all I can say is that in this case, it all seems pretty trivial
when you look at sex and colour discrimination in the job market these days
still.
Brian
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Brian Gaff (Sofa)
May 15, 2021, 3:32:37 AM5/15/21
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No, I do wish I had gone to a co ed senior school. I think I'd have been
better adjusted if I had. I'm reasonably sure there were a lot of sexual
predatory teachers and other pupils at my school you soon realised who not
to be alone with.
It is however quite natural, and happens in animals as well, If its
unwanted, an animal simply attacks the other and they don't try it again. We
seem to not do that or in many cases I suspect feel bullied. Luckily I
learned who to avoid. No excuse for teachers, but one has to realise that
young children are still attempting to find who they are at that age.
What is acceptable in society has changed over the years, which is why folk
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better adjusted if I had. I'm reasonably sure there were a lot of sexual
predatory teachers and other pupils at my school you soon realised who not
to be alone with.
It is however quite natural, and happens in animals as well, If its
unwanted, an animal simply attacks the other and they don't try it again. We
seem to not do that or in many cases I suspect feel bullied. Luckily I
learned who to avoid. No excuse for teachers, but one has to realise that
young children are still attempting to find who they are at that age.
What is acceptable in society has changed over the years, which is why folk
like Jonathan King and randy Rolf are now considered criminals I suppose.
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May 15, 2021, 3:34:33 AM5/15/21
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experience you are going to have travelling with us today....
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experience you are going to have travelling with us today....
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soup
May 15, 2021, 3:49:22 AM5/15/21
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Wouldn't the 'uggos' complain?
soup
May 15, 2021, 4:00:08 AM5/15/21
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Brian I would suspect the wheelchair is to get you from A to B quickly .
Letting someone take your arm (yes I made the mistake of grabbing a
blind person by the arm to lead them)and navigating them through a
possibly milling crowd is not a quick process.
You 'say' we are being too touchy, is you taking umbrage at some one
trying to be quick (or rather not slow) not an example of this ?
"I have nothing against your left leg, unfortunately neither do you".
Letting someone take your arm (yes I made the mistake of grabbing a
blind person by the arm to lead them)and navigating them through a
possibly milling crowd is not a quick process.
You 'say' we are being too touchy, is you taking umbrage at some one
trying to be quick (or rather not slow) not an example of this ?
AgentX
May 15, 2021, 9:06:49 AM5/15/21
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I think that's likely. I'm deaf, but I often get pushed really fast in a
wheelchair to the Audiology dept in the hospital. I think it gives bored
porters something to do.
K
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wheelchair to the Audiology dept in the hospital. I think it gives bored
porters something to do.
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DaveG
May 15, 2021, 1:52:25 PM5/15/21
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"Great experience"? Wouldn't they then get sued for deceptive practices?
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> experience you are going to have travelling with us today....
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May 16, 2021, 2:19:52 AM5/16/21
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The problem is nobody asks. The fact is it has always been faster by foot in
hospitals. Its the nothing about us without us think. People may think they
know, but they don't Brian
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hospitals. Its the nothing about us without us think. People may think they
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May 16, 2021, 5:46:24 AM5/16/21
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On 16/05/2021 07:19, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
> The problem is nobody asks.
True. But would you take umbrage at that too?
> The problem is nobody asks.
"How dare you ask, I am just like anyone else".
Hasn't your entire posting history been about how much has (or rather
hasn't |)been adapted for you.
The fact is it has always been faster by foot in
> hospitals.
than to wheel them.
Richard Evans
May 17, 2021, 11:30:46 AM5/17/21
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On 14/05/2021 14:53, Mike Swift wrote:
> Ye Gods, just when you thought the Wokery in Britain couldn't get any
> worse I read this headline.
>
> Train Company Apologises After Conductor Said 'Good Morning, Ladies and
> Gentlemen'
Good morning humans.
> worse I read this headline.
>
> Train Company Apologises After Conductor Said 'Good Morning, Ladies and
> Gentlemen'
Of would somebody then complain that their guide dog was offended !
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May 17, 2021, 11:33:40 AM5/17/21
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On 14/05/2021 16:37, AgentX wrote:
> Well said. We used to have a teacher who always addressed us as "You
> people" long before political correctness was invented. We used to make
> fun of her for it.
> K
For a while, if I asked a girl her name, and she said, why do you want
> people" long before political correctness was invented. We used to make
> fun of her for it.
> K
my name. I would say so that I don't have to call you 'Oy You'.
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May 17, 2021, 12:57:22 PM5/17/21
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Oh, what a F-ing mess ;-)
In order to please everyone, you end up pleasing no-one and pissing-off
many. Sums up wokefullness, really.
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> On 14/05/2021 14:53, Mike Swift wrote:
>> Ye Gods, just when you thought the Wokery in Britain couldn't get any
>> worse I read this headline.
>>
>> Train Company Apologises After Conductor Said 'Good Morning, Ladies and
>> Gentlemen'
>
> Good morning humans.
>
> Of would somebody then complain that their guide dog was offended !
Hu-persons (not hu-mans). Oh, sorry, that includes "son". Hu-per-children?
>> Ye Gods, just when you thought the Wokery in Britain couldn't get any
>> worse I read this headline.
>>
>> Train Company Apologises After Conductor Said 'Good Morning, Ladies and
>> Gentlemen'
>
> Good morning humans.
>
> Of would somebody then complain that their guide dog was offended !
Oh, what a F-ing mess ;-)
In order to please everyone, you end up pleasing no-one and pissing-off
many. Sums up wokefullness, really.
JNugent
May 17, 2021, 3:05:55 PM5/17/21
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On 15/05/2021 08:16 am, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
> Might I also point out that George Michael called his greatest hits album
> Ladies and Gentlemen.
Was that done in honour of his favourite types of building?
> Might I also point out that George Michael called his greatest hits album
> Ladies and Gentlemen.
DaveG
May 18, 2021, 4:59:24 PM5/18/21
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JNugent
May 18, 2021, 8:06:48 PM5/18/21
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hoping for, a boy, a girl or a non-binary infant?".
Vidcapper
May 19, 2021, 1:48:38 AM5/19/21
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Calum
May 20, 2021, 3:39:18 PM5/20/21
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On 17/05/2021 16:30, Richard Evans wrote:
> On 14/05/2021 14:53, Mike Swift wrote:
>> Ye Gods, just when you thought the Wokery in Britain couldn't get any
>> worse I read this headline.
>>
>> Train Company Apologises After Conductor Said 'Good Morning, Ladies
>> and Gentlemen'
>
> Good morning humans.
Or, y'know, just "Good morning", or "Good morning everyone", or "Mornin'
> On 14/05/2021 14:53, Mike Swift wrote:
>> Ye Gods, just when you thought the Wokery in Britain couldn't get any
>> worse I read this headline.
>>
>> Train Company Apologises After Conductor Said 'Good Morning, Ladies
>> and Gentlemen'
>
> Good morning humans.
all". It ain't rocket science.
Mike Swift
May 20, 2021, 8:07:02 PM5/20/21
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In article <s86dt0$1ol$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, Calum
<com....@nospam.scottishwildcat> writes
become the oldest man in the world but the way it's going I don't think
I'll bother.
<com....@nospam.scottishwildcat> writes
>>> Ye Gods, just when you thought the Wokery in Britain couldn't get any
>>> worse I read this headline.
>>>
>>> Train Company Apologises After Conductor Said 'Good Morning, Ladies
>>> and Gentlemen'
>>
>> Good morning humans.
>
>Or, y'know, just "Good morning", or "Good morning everyone", or "Mornin'
>all". It ain't rocket science.
No it's just pandering to wokery gone mad, I always intended to live to
>>> worse I read this headline.
>>>
>>> Train Company Apologises After Conductor Said 'Good Morning, Ladies
>>> and Gentlemen'
>>
>> Good morning humans.
>
>Or, y'know, just "Good morning", or "Good morning everyone", or "Mornin'
>all". It ain't rocket science.
become the oldest man in the world but the way it's going I don't think
I'll bother.
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