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706 "TOW the Nap Partners"

Monica takes Rachel & Phoebe to brunch, because she needs a Maid of
Honour. The candidates hold each other's hands for support as Rachel
hopes it will be Phoebe, while Phoebe hopes it will be Rachel - and
Rachel hopes so too! This sets the stage for the story to follow...

Curiously, as Rachel proposes a toast to the future Mrs. Chandler Bing,
a woman at the next table starts paying attention, and then comes over
to wish Monica luck, but so sarcastically that she must know something
bad about Chandler.

Monica later describes the woman to Chandler, who finds her picture in
a photo album - Julie Graff, a girlfriend at camp for two summers, but
the third year he dumped her because she'd grown too fa-aa-aa. He dare
not say the F-word to Monica, who naturally is very concerned.

This is because her best friend in 5th grade refused to be her boyfriend
because she was too fa-aa-aa, so she knows how Julie felt - but when she
makes Chandler apologise to the woman, Julie calls him "Skidmark", and
never knew he split up with her because she was overweight.

Monica worries that Chandler will divorce her if she gets fat again - but
he insists he's not as stupid as when he was 15. She reminds him of their
first Thanksgiving together when he called her fat - but he argues that
that was behind her back. Chandler explains that she is Monica, and he
is in love with Monica, whatever size she is, and they embrace.

---o0o---

Meanwhile, Monica's cunning plan is that since they're three girls, they
should trade off being Maids of Honour for each other, so hypothetically
if Phoebe was Monica's then Rachel would be Phoebe's and Monica would be
Rachel's, or vice versa - and cleverest of all, it'll be Phoebe & Rachel
who decide, so that Monica doesn't have too!

Later, Phoebe asks Rachel to be her Maid of Honour one day, and Rachel is
delighted until she realises it's just Phoebe's little plan. Phoebe has to
admit that she wants the job so badly because the wedding is now, and it's
two of their best friends - and who knows WHAT Rachel is going to marry!

Rachel counters by suggesting she could marry Ross or Joey, which makes
her friend gasp, and claim that's she has never been Maid of Honour while
Rachel has done it twice. Rachel good-heartedly gives in because of this,
and promises that she'll marry someone better than Chandler, to which
Phoebe phuffts in agreement!

But after Joey reveals that Phoebe was Maid of Honour for a neighbour,
Rachel angrily withdraws her offer, so Joey suggests that they audition
and he & Ross will be the judges. When Ross arrives, Rachel plays up to
him, but he grimaces & pulls away - yet when Phoebe plays up to him he
likes it, and assumes it's because of his new cologne...

The audition begins with Joey pretending to be Monica with cold feet
about the wedding, so Rachel warns 'her' that if 'she' runs out, 'she'
will lose the gifts. Then Ross portrays a drunk uncle at the ceremony,
so Phoebe uses her martial arts skills to floor him!

Next, Rachel has to perform an impromptu speech - she met Monica when
they were 6, and befriended Chandler when he was 25, but acted like he
was 6 - but she's topped by Phoebe whose speech is pathetic until she
'recalls' the time she showered with Rachel, naked!

After imagining the scene, the judges award the contest to Phoebe, and
Rachel storms off - but later she cunningly apologises, giving her the
keepsakes she has been collecting for Monica, including some vintage
handkerchiefs, and an old blue garter to borrow. Touched, Phoebe falls
for Rachel's tears, telling Monica that Rachel will be Maid of Honour.

However, Monica instantly starts organising Rachel with scheduled
meetings, and too late Rachel realises her mistake. Phoebe thinks
that she has had the last laugh, until Rachel reminds Phoebe who
her Maid of Honour will be...

---o0o---

Joey hires the videos of "Die Hard" and "Die Hard 2" for the guys, but
after the first movie they discover he accidentally hired two copies of
"Die Hard". Chandler has something better to do than watch it again, so
he leaves - but Ross is more supportive by pretending he'd be glad to.

But after the movie finishes again, Joey is asleep on the couch, and
so is Ross - all cuddled up in Joey's arms, head resting on his chest,
with beatific smiles on their faces!!! Are these innocent babes or are
they subconscious lovers??

Whatever the reality, when the boys awake they assume the worst, and
leap up to stand well apart in horror at what happened. Very guiltily,
they agree never to talk about it again, but Joey won't let the matter
rest because it was the best nap he'd ever had.

Ross reluctantly acknowledges this, but he's afraid, while the rather
more confident Joey tells him that he wants to do it again - and he's
prepared some warm milk & Excedrin PM (a safe painkiller that makes
you drowsy). Ross runs out in homosexual panic...

But later the pair are in Central Perk when Joey announces that he's
going upstairs for a little nap, leaving Ross who thinks, and thinks,
and thinks, and thinks - and goes upstairs to join him! Eventually the
pair are blissfully sleeping together, when they hear a sound, and open
their eyes to see Phoebe, Chandler, Monica & Rachel watching them...

---o0o---

This is a long review, and yet I have had to leave out much of what
made this episode so funny, else it would have been just too huge. If
you need any more reminders, go watch the show again, it's worth it.

After Season 6, many people predicted that Season 7 would be bogged down
with boring wedding preparation stories, all centred around Chandler &
Monica. Well, this episode proves them wrong. This wedding preparation
story was fabulously entertaining, and centred around Phoebe & Rachel.

I've long said all that matters is the quality of the writing - and this
wonderful piece was penned by Brian Buckner & Sebastian Jones, whose only
previous effort was 221 "TOW the Bullies" back in 1996. It easily matches
514 "TOW Everyone Finds Out" for its laughter quotient, as 514 & 706 are
the only episodes to make my cheeks sting with tears of laughter.


The Chandler & Monica story was not as strong as the other three,
but it is always good when Monica shows the insecure side of her
personality. I totally support cute or serious plots that aren't
particularly funny, as long as other stories in the episode are.

Certainly Kudrow & Aniston were performing at the top of their game
with brilliant characterisation & a wealth of jokes. Here we had two
normal people reacting to a comic situation from which the humour
flowed, not people who had suddenly become 'comic' themselves.

The situation for Ross & Joey was unusual I admit, but thematically it
was quite fascinating, for it explored the grey area between same-sex
friendship and homosexuality. These two men were literally sleeping
together - but no more was implied, whatever their fears.

It's certainly something that women are far more comfortable about, as
with Phoebe's claim about showering with Rachel. What made it work was
the sensitive performances, most especially by David Schwimmer, as his
character hesitated for so long before joining his nap partner.


If Season Six had been the end of the series as so many pundits had
asked for, the world would have been denied this delicious treat.

---o0o---

Some fans were taken in by Rachel's tears, or cannot believe she lied,
but just consider how she operates. Rachel comes across as a pushover,
yet unlike going for lunch in 612 "TOW the Joke", she's usually a baby
who ends up getting her own way. An awful lot of what she told Phoebe
was genuine, but then the best lies contain as much truth as possible.

Think of how Phoebe reacted when Monica listed all the possible uses
for the redundant delivery van in 409 "TOW They're Gonna Party!" - and
Rachel knows what her friend is like. The clincher that proves Rachel
was lying is the claim that the handkerchiefs were vintage. Why would
she say that if she wasn't out to steal the post of Maid of Honour?

If Rachel had been given some vintage handkerchiefs, she would have
exchanged them for store credit, because they would have no more than
monetary value to her. However, vintage anything is the sort of item
that would be calculated to appeal to Phoebe. And yet Rachel went to
use them for her tears right there, which gave her deceit away.

---o0o---

If you loved the Maid of Honour Contest as much as I did, know that
the Aprés S7-15 Blooper show gave us part of an *extra* round...

[Scene: Joey & Rachel's apartment. Joey & Ross are conducting yet
another round of the Maid of Honour contest for Phoebe & Rachel.]

JOEY: Okay, the next situation is for Rachel. The wedding is about
to start. You walk into the back room, and you find Monica
taking a nap with Ross.

(Ross lies down on the floor.)

JOEY: I'll be Monica. Go! (He jumps down, and cuddles up with Ross.)

ROSS: (Jumping up, all freaked out) No! No! No!

---o0o---

Wasn't Stacy Galina well cast as Julie Graff? She was so like Monica.
If she returns, and Joey (or even more so Ross) should date her, there
could be all sorts of unsettling undercurrents...

Did you notice the sly little joke wherein Chandler described Julie as
his camp girlfriend?

This means that both Chandler & Ross have had an ugly breakup with a
girl named Julie; and in the extended pilot (at 17:30 on DVD) we heard
that Joey had a date with a third Julie, but he had great difficultly
remembering her name - so could that have been an ugly breakup too?

A skidmark, for any Europeans reading this, is the mark left on a pair
of underpants when the owner does not properly clean himself (or herself)
after going to the toilet; and has nothing to do with a rapid departure.

Was it unrealistic that Monica still harbours doubts about Chandler's
love for her? Or will the spectre of once again being overweight always
hang over her head?

But note that Monica never yelled at Chandler, she remained warm and
friendly throughout - and so not screechy. Yay!

Chandler says he called Monica fat behind her back, but that is both
literally & figuratively wrong - she was behind his back.

And Chandler is right. What's wrong with being a bit fat anyway?


Monica's story was good consistent writing true to her character. Faced
with a conflict in which she cannot chose one friend without offending
another, she redefined the situation such that resolution could be found
without having to be partial, just as she did in 612 "TOW the Joke".

Maid of Honour customs vary across the Atlantic. In America, a Maid of
Honour is *unmarried* herself, otherwise she would be called a Matron
of Honour. In Britain, a Maid of Honour is a *married* woman (or much
older than the bride), otherwise she'd be called a Chief Bridesmaid.

For all that Rachel wants to be Monica's Maid of Honour, she has had two
weddings so far - and she didn't even INVITE Monica to either of them.

Will Monica take Chandler's surname, as Rachel assumed? If she does, her
initials will be MEB, which also stands for Magic Eight Ball...

Did Phoebe gasp at the idea of Rachel marrying Ross or Joey, or because
she wanted both of them for herself?

We know of Rachel being a Maid of Honour once before, at Barry & Mindy's
wedding. So when was the other occasion? However, this was no continuity
error since there is so much of these people's lives that we don't see.

Rachel & Phoebe still don't think much of Chandler, do they? Or are they
secretly jealous of his loving & trustful relationship with Monica?

Was Ross being his Uncle Nathan, whom nobody invites to weddings?

At last we saw how Phoebe did not need Rachel's help to overpower Ross
in 617 "TOW Unagi".

Rachel befriending Chandler when he was 25 is not a continuity error as
some have claimed. This was his age when the series began, and she only
*met* him earlier, she didn't befriend him. This neatly fits his age as
being 31 now, as does the reference to him being 15 sixteen years ago.

The wedding speech competition was so funny, let's hope that the real
speeches at the wedding reception won't seem an anti-climax.

This episode first aired during the presidential election fiasco in
Florida. Was Rachel's demand for a recount a complete coincidence? Or
did JA later record something for the editors to slip into the show?

Marita Bakken points out how genuinely pheebish Phoebe was. Not just in
comments like "you want a little taste of Pheebs?" & "we were all babies
once", but warning that coins hate her & then discovering that the coins
had finally forgiven her. The significance is that it's a beggar's point
of view. See how badly she reacted in 510 "TOW the Inappropriate Sister"
to anyone who failed to respect the charity bucket.


Whenever Joey first hired the "Die Hard" videos, he was carrying out a
promise he made to Chandler in 421 "TOW the Invitation". I wonder, did
they ever kid Paul Stephens about his resemblance to Bruce Willis?

Ross being more supportive about the duplicate videos suggests that these
days it's he & Joey who are the best buds - not Chandler & Joey.

The meaning of the "Nap Partners" took me totally by surprise - I thought
that maybe the gang were going to set up a betting syndicate or something.

And what happened between the nap partners after they ran away from their
friends? Do they still nap together at Ross's with the blinds shut?

---o0o---

What of the homosexual undercurrents to this episode? Rachel & Phoebe
held each other's hands in public & joked about showering together. Can
women afford to be far more relaxed about these issues than men are?

I've complained in the past about such jokes being aimed at Chandler,
but are they okay if Ross & Joey are the targets? I think here it's
important to recognise the essential innocence of the situation. It
was only in their male fears that these undercurrents had meaning.

The lame anti-Chandler jokes imply that for all his having a long-term
girlfriend, he was still in denial about his sexuality - whereas the nap
partners were treated more sympathetically, in that for all they might
sleep together, they were still heterosexual. What do you think?


No spoilers PLEASE from anyone who has already seen episodes 707-724.

Tennant Stuart

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"Tennant Stuart" <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message
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Man I should start writing reviews about your reviews Tennant, they're so
brilliant! I doubt very much whether there's a bigger fan. I was meaning to
ask you do you know why S4C is airing S7 after C4? Because TOW Nap Partners
is on next week...

Owen


Tennant Stuart

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In article <duZc7.15961$tq.17...@news6-win.server.ntlworld.com>, "Owen
Shiers" <str...@ntlworld.com> wrote:

> Man I should start writing reviews about your reviews Tennant, they're
> so brilliant! I doubt very much whether there's a bigger fan.

Thanks, Owen.


> I was meaning to ask you do you know why S4C is airing S7 after C4?
> Because TOW Nap Partners is on next week...

I'm afraid I have no idea, maybe their website can help.

Let me know what you think of the episode next week.

Meanwhile, can you still see my review of S7-05?


Tennant

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Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> 706 "TOW the Nap Partners"
<snip>

>
> If Rachel had been given some vintage handkerchiefs, she would have
> exchanged them for store credit, because they would have no more than
> monetary value to her. However, vintage anything is the sort of item
> that would be calculated to appeal to Phoebe. And yet Rachel went to
> use them for her tears right there, which gave her deceit away.

Maybe they actually meant something to Rachel - maybe a much-loved
relative handed them down to her or something. And you can always
wash vintage handkerchiefs. They might have been real. I'm giving her
the benefit of the doubt :)

> ---o0o---
>
> Wasn't Stacy Galina well cast as Julie Graff? She was so like Monica.
> If she returns, and Joey (or even more so Ross) should date her, there
> could be all sorts of unsettling undercurrents...

Hmm, yes. It would be a little like Russ in a way.

> Did you notice the sly little joke wherein Chandler described Julie as
> his camp girlfriend?

They're never going to stop with the Chandler-is-gay jokes, are they?

> This means that both Chandler & Ross have had an ugly breakup with a
> girl named Julie; and in the extended pilot (at 17:30 on DVD) we heard
> that Joey had a date with a third Julie, but he had great difficultly
> remembering her name - so could that have been an ugly breakup too?

He probably just didn't call her. I doubt whether it was ugly. Joey never
dates women long enough to actually be *able* to have an ugly breakup -
he doesn't wait for an emotional attachment.

> A skidmark, for any Europeans reading this, is the mark left on a pair
> of underpants when the owner does not properly clean himself (or herself)
> after going to the toilet; and has nothing to do with a rapid departure.

I knew that! Lovely.

> Was it unrealistic that Monica still harbours doubts about Chandler's
> love for her? Or will the spectre of once again being overweight always
> hang over her head?

Monica is the most insecure of all the Friends. She probably still thinks
of herself as a fat girl, partly due to issues with her mother. Although she
can now comfortably eat a tub of chocolate icecream, safe in the knowledge
that she will look *better* at the end, there's probably always something
inside reminding her of how she used to look.

> But note that Monica never yelled at Chandler, she remained warm and
> friendly throughout - and so not screechy. Yay!

Yay!

> Chandler says he called Monica fat behind her back, but that is both
> literally & figuratively wrong - she was behind his back.

Does that make it okay then?

> And Chandler is right. What's wrong with being a bit fat anyway?

Ohh. Don't ask me that. You wouldn't like the answer.

> Monica's story was good consistent writing true to her character. Faced
> with a conflict in which she cannot chose one friend without offending
> another, she redefined the situation such that resolution could be found
> without having to be partial, just as she did in 612 "TOW the Joke".

Maybe because Judy so obviously favoured Ross, it's made Monica
ultrasensitive to how it feels to be the underdog. She'd make a great
mother :)

> Maid of Honour customs vary across the Atlantic. In America, a Maid of
> Honour is *unmarried* herself, otherwise she would be called a Matron
> of Honour. In Britain, a Maid of Honour is a *married* woman (or much
> older than the bride), otherwise she'd be called a Chief Bridesmaid.

Yep. Another alternative is 'Mistress Of The Ceremony'. Seriously. Brings
up an image of the lead bridesmaid dressed in a leather catsuit, spanking
all the naughty guests! I can't stop laughing now.

> For all that Rachel wants to be Monica's Maid of Honour, she has had two
> weddings so far - and she didn't even INVITE Monica to either of them.

She might have invited her to the Vegas one, but Monica was busy
shoplifting.

> Will Monica take Chandler's surname, as Rachel assumed? If she does, her
> initials will be MEB, which also stands for Magic Eight Ball...

Or maybe Monica would drop her middle name and use her maiden name instead,
the way Courteney Cox did. That way her name would be Monica Geller Bing,
no E - and we might never find out what it stood for :(

> Did Phoebe gasp at the idea of Rachel marrying Ross or Joey, or because
> she wanted both of them for herself?

I think the latter! She wouldn't be shocked that Rachel might marry one of
them.
She probably just feels possessive and doesn't want *either* of them to
marry
anyone else.

> We know of Rachel being a Maid of Honour once before, at Barry & Mindy's
> wedding. So when was the other occasion? However, this was no continuity
> error since there is so much of these people's lives that we don't see.

No idea.

> Rachel & Phoebe still don't think much of Chandler, do they? Or are they
> secretly jealous of his loving & trustful relationship with Monica?

I think they like him and all that... they just still see him as the
immature,
joky guy who refuses to be tied down and don't think of him as a catch!

> Was Ross being his Uncle Nathan, whom nobody invites to weddings?

Probably! hehe

> At last we saw how Phoebe did not need Rachel's help to overpower Ross
> in 617 "TOW Unagi".
>
> Rachel befriending Chandler when he was 25 is not a continuity error as
> some have claimed. This was his age when the series began, and she only
> *met* him earlier, she didn't befriend him. This neatly fits his age as
> being 31 now, as does the reference to him being 15 sixteen years ago.
>
> The wedding speech competition was so funny, let's hope that the real
> speeches at the wedding reception won't seem an anti-climax.

They probably won't include showering together, naked. Monica would
be appalled.

> This episode first aired during the presidential election fiasco in
> Florida. Was Rachel's demand for a recount a complete coincidence? Or
> did JA later record something for the editors to slip into the show?
>
> Marita Bakken points out how genuinely pheebish Phoebe was. Not just in
> comments like "you want a little taste of Pheebs?" & "we were all babies
> once", but warning that coins hate her & then discovering that the coins
> had finally forgiven her. The significance is that it's a beggar's point
> of view. See how badly she reacted in 510 "TOW the Inappropriate Sister"
> to anyone who failed to respect the charity bucket.

Pheebish Phoebe is the best Phoebe of all.

> Whenever Joey first hired the "Die Hard" videos, he was carrying out a
> promise he made to Chandler in 421 "TOW the Invitation". I wonder, did
> they ever kid Paul Stephens about his resemblance to Bruce Willis?
>
> Ross being more supportive about the duplicate videos suggests that these
> days it's he & Joey who are the best buds - not Chandler & Joey.

It does! Chandler has moved onto a different wavelength!

> The meaning of the "Nap Partners" took me totally by surprise - I thought
> that maybe the gang were going to set up a betting syndicate or something.
>
> And what happened between the nap partners after they ran away from their
> friends? Do they still nap together at Ross's with the blinds shut?

Definitely. They just lock the door now.

> ---o0o---
>
> What of the homosexual undercurrents to this episode? Rachel & Phoebe
> held each other's hands in public & joked about showering together. Can
> women afford to be far more relaxed about these issues than men are?

Women are less uptight because people generally see lesbians as being
more socially acceptable than gay men. For example, when Phoebe said
that she and Rachel showered together, Ross and Joey were very enthusiastic.
If it had been the other way around and Joey had been trying to convince
Rachel and Phoebe to choose him as Chandler's best man by saying that
he showered naked with Ross, they would probably have been... I don't know,
confused?! Women are more in touch with their feelings generally and
there isn't such a stigma around lesbians. I don't know if that made sense.

> I've complained in the past about such jokes being aimed at Chandler,
> but are they okay if Ross & Joey are the targets? I think here it's
> important to recognise the essential innocence of the situation. It
> was only in their male fears that these undercurrents had meaning.
>
> The lame anti-Chandler jokes imply that for all his having a long-term
> girlfriend, he was still in denial about his sexuality - whereas the nap
> partners were treated more sympathetically, in that for all they might
> sleep together, they were still heterosexual. What do you think?

I think that Chandler's sexuality is always going to be a long-running joke.
He still has homosexual hair.

Chis

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In article <na.6ffb414aa7...@argonet.co.uk>,

Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> For all that Rachel wants to be Monica's Maid of Honour, she has had two
> weddings so far - and she didn't even INVITE Monica to either of them.

To be fair, she wasn't really friends with Monica at the time of the first,
at least and old a firend she'd lost touch with. Oh while I'm on it
Chandler owes Monica ten bucks!!! and Chandler owes Pheobe $7,000!! And the
second wedding Rachel was really drunk

> Will Monica take Chandler's surname, as Rachel assumed? If she does, her
> initials will be MEB, which also stands for Magic Eight Ball...

Well, probably, btw I've forgotten, Monicas middle name we found out when
and is?

> Did Phoebe gasp at the idea of Rachel marrying Ross or Joey, or because
> she wanted both of them for herself?

She gasped that rachel would marry Ross, indicated she might have feelings
for him still and gasped at Joey cos Pheobe wants him for herself. is it me
or does anyone else not trust Pheobe anymore?

> Rachel & Phoebe still don't think much of Chandler, do they? Or are they
> secretly jealous of his loving & trustful relationship with Monica?

Jealous

> This episode first aired during the presidential election fiasco in
> Florida. Was Rachel's demand for a recount a complete coincidence? Or
> did JA later record something for the editors to slip into the show?

I hope it was a pun.

> Ross being more supportive about the duplicate videos suggests that these
> days it's he & Joey who are the best buds - not Chandler & Joey.

Ross and Joeys relationship has developed a lot more over the last couple
of seasons, I feel mainly cos Chandler's not there with Joey all the time
and has the missus to be busy with! So naturally, Ross and Joey have become
closer although Chandler and Joey's bond still is there.

> What of the homosexual undercurrents to this episode? Rachel & Phoebe
> held each other's hands in public & joked about showering together. Can
> women afford to be far more relaxed about these issues than men are?

Men, in general are homophobic (yes i am making a generalisation) the
thought of finding out one of their close friends is gay freaks them out,
and doing anything gay freaks them out. Women aren't always relaxed about
it, but are more accepting, generally. Plus we all know how lesbianism gets
men going, a perfect weapon.

> I've complained in the past about such jokes being aimed at Chandler,
> but are they okay if Ross & Joey are the targets? I think here it's
> important to recognise the essential innocence of the situation. It
> was only in their male fears that these undercurrents had meaning.
> The lame anti-Chandler jokes imply that for all his having a long-term
> girlfriend, he was still in denial about his sexuality - whereas the nap
> partners were treated more sympathetically, in that for all they might
> sleep together, they were still heterosexual. What do you think?

I think Chandler is easy target for gay jokes, as, we have seen, he has
been mistaken for being gay frequently.

Suddenly I realise TOW the Thanksgiving Flashbacks has a HUUge continuity
error!

Chis

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CandiGrrl <Cand...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> > This means that both Chandler & Ross have had an ugly breakup with a
> > girl named Julie; and in the extended pilot (at 17:30 on DVD) we heard
> > that Joey had a date with a third Julie, but he had great difficultly
> > remembering her name - so could that have been an ugly breakup too?

> He probably just didn't call her. I doubt whether it was ugly. Joey never
> dates women long enough to actually be *able* to have an ugly breakup -
> he doesn't wait for an emotional attachment.

What a generalisation!!! Have we forgotten Kate?

Tennant Stuart

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In article <9l2aim$3hp$1...@plutonium.btinternet.com>, "CandiGrrl"
<Cand...@btinternet.com> wrote:

> Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:na.6ffb414aa7...@argonet.co.uk...

>> 706 "TOW the Nap Partners"

>> If Rachel had been given some vintage handkerchiefs, she would have


>> exchanged them for store credit, because they would have no more than
>> monetary value to her. However, vintage anything is the sort of item
>> that would be calculated to appeal to Phoebe. And yet Rachel went to
>> use them for her tears right there, which gave her deceit away.

> Maybe they actually meant something to Rachel - maybe a much-loved
> relative handed them down to her or something. And you can always
> wash vintage handkerchiefs. They might have been real. I'm giving her
> the benefit of the doubt :)

Awww... you're so sweet. :)


>> Wasn't Stacy Galina well cast as Julie Graff? She was so like Monica.
>> If she returns, and Joey (or even more so Ross) should date her, there
>> could be all sorts of unsettling undercurrents...

> Hmm, yes. It would be a little like Russ in a way.

Oh yes, there would be Russ-like undercurrents if Chandler dated
her - but if Ross did, then something deeper & darker would lurk.


>> Did you notice the sly little joke wherein Chandler described Julie as
>> his camp girlfriend?

> They're never going to stop with the Chandler-is-gay jokes, are they?

It was only a little one, and peanuts compared with Ross & Joey.


>> This means that both Chandler & Ross have had an ugly breakup with a
>> girl named Julie; and in the extended pilot (at 17:30 on DVD) we heard
>> that Joey had a date with a third Julie, but he had great difficultly
>> remembering her name - so could that have been an ugly breakup too?

> He probably just didn't call her. I doubt whether it was ugly. Joey never
> dates women long enough to actually be *able* to have an ugly breakup -
> he doesn't wait for an emotional attachment.

Oh, I agree actually, I'm just trying to get a perfect hat-trick going.


>> A skidmark, for any Europeans reading this, is the mark left on a pair
>> of underpants when the owner does not properly clean himself (or
>> herself) after going to the toilet; and has nothing to do with a rapid
>> departure.

> I knew that! Lovely.

Yep. That was in because the word caused so much confusion around the
world when the episode first aired in America.


>> Was it unrealistic that Monica still harbours doubts about Chandler's
>> love for her? Or will the spectre of once again being overweight always
>> hang over her head?

> Monica is the most insecure of all the Friends. She probably still
> thinks of herself as a fat girl, partly due to issues with her mother.
> Although she can now comfortably eat a tub of chocolate icecream, safe
> in the knowledge that she will look *better* at the end, there's
> probably always something inside reminding her of how she used to look.

Yes. I think you are so right there, Mari.


>> But note that Monica never yelled at Chandler, she remained warm and
>> friendly throughout - and so not screechy. Yay!

> Yay!

The dark days of S6 are well behind us now. :)


>> Chandler says he called Monica fat behind her back, but that is both
>> literally & figuratively wrong - she was behind his back.

> Does that make it okay then?

No it doesn't, I was just pointing out the error.

Having said that, you could argue that his insult did her a favour.


>> And Chandler is right. What's wrong with being a bit fat anyway?

> Ohh. Don't ask me that. You wouldn't like the answer.

Just as long as you don't think you have to be skinny to be attractive.


>> Monica's story was good consistent writing true to her character. Faced
>> with a conflict in which she cannot chose one friend without offending
>> another, she redefined the situation such that resolution could be found
>> without having to be partial, just as she did in 612 "TOW the Joke".

> Maybe because Judy so obviously favoured Ross, it's made Monica
> ultrasensitive to how it feels to be the underdog. She'd make a great
> mother :)

Absolutely, you are so wise.


>> Maid of Honour customs vary across the Atlantic. In America, a Maid of
>> Honour is *unmarried* herself, otherwise she would be called a Matron
>> of Honour. In Britain, a Maid of Honour is a *married* woman (or much
>> older than the bride), otherwise she'd be called a Chief Bridesmaid.

> Yep. Another alternative is 'Mistress Of The Ceremony'. Seriously. Brings
> up an image of the lead bridesmaid dressed in a leather catsuit, spanking
> all the naughty guests! I can't stop laughing now.

ROTFLQ Oh my! I'm coughing, that was so funny.

I've never heard of that expression. It's a shame that "mistress" has
narrowed down to just the one meaning now.


>> For all that Rachel wants to be Monica's Maid of Honour, she has had two
>> weddings so far - and she didn't even INVITE Monica to either of them.

> She might have invited her to the Vegas one, but Monica was busy
> shoplifting.

She was, and not for the first time, if you've seen the uncut version
of "TOW Two Parts" on DVD...


Dr.ROSEN: This hummus is great.

Dr.MITCHELL: God bless the chickpea.

MONICA: (as Rachel, suddenly laughing) Oh, god, I am so spoiled...
That's it!

RACHEL: (as Monica) I shoplift.

MONICA: (as Rachel) That was years ago, and you had no idea that the
lipstick was in your pocket. Did I tell you that I think I am
so much cuter than I am?

(The cute doctors don't know what to make of all this.)

RACHEL: (as Monica) And by the way, have I mentioned that back in high
school, I was a cow?


>> Will Monica take Chandler's surname, as Rachel assumed? If she does, her
>> initials will be MEB, which also stands for Magic Eight Ball...

> Or maybe Monica would drop her middle name and use her maiden name
> instead, the way Courteney Cox did. That way her name would be Monica
> Geller Bing, no E - and we might never find out what it stood for :(

Eek, and she would be MGB, just like something from S4 I can't mention.


>> Did Phoebe gasp at the idea of Rachel marrying Ross or Joey, or because
>> she wanted both of them for herself?

> I think the latter! She wouldn't be shocked that Rachel might marry one
> of them. She probably just feels possessive and doesn't want *either* of
> them to marry anyone else.

Wouldn't that make her as bad as Rachel?


>> We know of Rachel being a Maid of Honour once before, at Barry & Mindy's
>> wedding. So when was the other occasion? However, this was no continuity
>> error since there is so much of these people's lives that we don't see.

> No idea.

Okay.


>> Rachel & Phoebe still don't think much of Chandler, do they? Or are they
>> secretly jealous of his loving & trustful relationship with Monica?

> I think they like him and all that... they just still see him as the
> immature, joky guy who refuses to be tied down and don't think of him
> as a catch!

Awww...


>> Was Ross being his Uncle Nathan, whom nobody invites to weddings?

> Probably! hehe

Hehe.


>> The wedding speech competition was so funny, let's hope that the real
>> speeches at the wedding reception won't seem an anti-climax.

> They probably won't include showering together, naked. Monica would
> be appalled.

Yes she would, so I agree that they won't.


>> Marita Bakken points out how genuinely pheebish Phoebe was. Not just in
>> comments like "you want a little taste of Pheebs?" & "we were all
>> babies once", but warning that coins hate her & then discovering that
>> the coins had finally forgiven her. The significance is that it's a
>> beggar's point of view. See how badly she reacted in 510 "TOW the
>> Inappropriate Sister" to anyone who failed to respect the charity bucket.

> Pheebish Phoebe is the best Phoebe of all.

Indeed - and there are such pheebish delights on the way.. ;)


>> Ross being more supportive about the duplicate videos suggests that
>> these days it's he & Joey who are the best buds - not Chandler & Joey.

> It does! Chandler has moved onto a different wavelength!

Ah, good way of putting it. Yes.


>> What happened between the nap partners after they ran away from their


>> friends? Do they still nap together at Ross's with the blinds shut?

> Definitely. They just lock the door now.

Haha, yes - a lesson which the others should learn.


>> What of the homosexual undercurrents to this episode? Rachel & Phoebe
>> held each other's hands in public & joked about showering together. Can
>> women afford to be far more relaxed about these issues than men are?

> Women are less uptight because people generally see lesbians as being
> more socially acceptable than gay men. For example, when Phoebe said
> that she and Rachel showered together, Ross and Joey were very
> enthusiastic.

Absolutely.


> If it had been the other way around and Joey had been trying to convince
> Rachel and Phoebe to choose him as Chandler's best man by saying that he
> showered naked with Ross, they would probably have been... I don't know,
> confused?! Women are more in touch with their feelings generally and
> there isn't such a stigma around lesbians. I don't know if that made
> sense.

That made a great deal of sense Mari, thankyou very much.

Have you seen the history programmes by Simon Shama? In the one about
the conflict between Elizabeth I and Mary Queen of Scots - cousins who
never met, both had various disastrous relationships with men, battled
as Protestant versus Catholic, Mary was ousted by Scotland and fled to
England, Elizabeth had her beheaded but Mary's son James Stuart <grin>
became king of both countries - Shama concluded that all their problems
would have been solved if Elizabeth & Mary had married each other...


>> The lame anti-Chandler jokes imply that for all his having a long-term
>> girlfriend, he was still in denial about his sexuality - whereas the nap
>> partners were treated more sympathetically, in that for all they might
>> sleep together, they were still heterosexual. What do you think?

> I think that Chandler's sexuality is always going to be a long-running
> joke. He still has homosexual hair.

Hah! Awwww...


Tennant

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>
>706 "TOW the Nap Partners"
>
>Wasn't Stacy Galina well cast as Julie Graff? She was so like Monica.

A bit taller & more busty, I think. :)


>
>Was it unrealistic that Monica still harbours doubts about Chandler's
>love for her? Or will the spectre of once again being overweight always
>hang over her head?

That's a strange place for excess weight to hang! :)


>
>Rachel befriending Chandler when he was 25 is not a continuity error as
>some have claimed. This was his age when the series began, and she only
>*met* him earlier, she didn't befriend him.

That's how I read it too.


>
>What of the homosexual undercurrents to this episode? Rachel & Phoebe
>held each other's hands in public & joked about showering together.

Well Phoebe said that, anyway - but it was only to make Ross & Joey pick
her as maid of honour!


>
>No spoilers PLEASE from anyone who has already seen episodes 707-724.
>
>Tennant Stuart
>

PS, please somebody reply to my review too!
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Paul Hyett

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>>
>> 706 "TOW the Nap Partners"
>>
>Man I should start writing reviews about your reviews Tennant, they're so
>brilliant! I doubt very much whether there's a bigger fan.

Ahem!

Tennant Stuart

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In article <4aa86b1...@argonet.co.uk>, Chis <ch...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:

> In article <na.6ffb414aa7...@argonet.co.uk>,
> Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:

>> For all that Rachel wants to be Monica's Maid of Honour, she has had two
>> weddings so far - and she didn't even INVITE Monica to either of them.

> To be fair, she wasn't really friends with Monica at the time of the
> first, at least and old a firend she'd lost touch with.

Even so, Rachel winced when Monica pointed out she'd not been invited.


> Oh while I'm on it Chandler owes Monica ten bucks!!! and Chandler owes
> Pheobe $7,000!!

The $7,000 was for stopping smoking, but was was the ten bucks?


> And the second wedding Rachel was really drunk

Yeah, but not too drunk to invite Joey & Phoebe.


>> Will Monica take Chandler's surname, as Rachel assumed? If she does, her
>> initials will be MEB, which also stands for Magic Eight Ball...

> Well, probably, btw I've forgotten, Monicas middle name we found out when
> and is?

We don't know. Cross your fingers that she will say her middle name
as part of her wedding vows.


>> Did Phoebe gasp at the idea of Rachel marrying Ross or Joey, or because
>> she wanted both of them for herself?

> She gasped that rachel would marry Ross, indicated she might have
> feelings for him still and gasped at Joey cos Pheobe wants him for
> herself. is it me or does anyone else not trust Pheobe anymore?

Oh, I reckon that Phoebe is very sneaky & manipulative.


>> Rachel & Phoebe still don't think much of Chandler, do they? Or are they
>> secretly jealous of his loving & trustful relationship with Monica?

> Jealous

Awww. Me too. :)


>> This episode first aired during the presidential election fiasco in
>> Florida. Was Rachel's demand for a recount a complete coincidence? Or
>> did JA later record something for the editors to slip into the show?

> I hope it was a pun.

Yeah, it was pretty neat.


>> Ross being more supportive about the duplicate videos suggests that
>> these days it's he & Joey who are the best buds - not Chandler & Joey.

> Ross and Joeys relationship has developed a lot more over the last
> couple of seasons, I feel mainly cos Chandler's not there with Joey all
> the time and has the missus to be busy with! So naturally, Ross and Joey
> have become closer although Chandler and Joey's bond still is there.

How does that make you feel?


>> What of the homosexual undercurrents to this episode? Rachel & Phoebe
>> held each other's hands in public & joked about showering together. Can
>> women afford to be far more relaxed about these issues than men are?

> Men, in general are homophobic (yes i am making a generalisation) the
> thought of finding out one of their close friends is gay freaks them
> out, and doing anything gay freaks them out. Women aren't always relaxed
> about it, but are more accepting, generally. Plus we all know how
> lesbianism gets men going, a perfect weapon.

This is so true. When I was in my twenties, I discovered that one of my
friends was gay, which was rather unsettling even though I hadn't seen
him since we left school. Of course, the law of averages means that a
few more must have been, but I prefer not to think about that.

As for lesbianism, it just seems obvious to find girls attractive. :)


>> I've complained in the past about such jokes being aimed at Chandler,
>> but are they okay if Ross & Joey are the targets? I think here it's
>> important to recognise the essential innocence of the situation. It
>> was only in their male fears that these undercurrents had meaning.
>> The lame anti-Chandler jokes imply that for all his having a long-term
>> girlfriend, he was still in denial about his sexuality - whereas the nap
>> partners were treated more sympathetically, in that for all they might
>> sleep together, they were still heterosexual. What do you think?

> I think Chandler is easy target for gay jokes, as, we have seen, he has
> been mistaken for being gay frequently.

Yeah. Hopefully the writers seem to be doing something about this now, by
making such jokes about the others, even if they haven't backed off him.


> Suddenly I realise TOW the Thanksgiving Flashbacks has a HUUge continuity
> error!

Ooh, go on Chis...


Tennant

Tennant Stuart

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In article <JmXIPoDH...@activist.demon.co.uk>, Paul Hyett
<pah...@activist.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> On Fri, 10 Aug 2001, Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> stated this
> considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -

>> 706 "TOW the Nap Partners"

>> Wasn't Stacy Galina well cast as Julie Graff? She was so like Monica.

> A bit taller & more busty, I think. :)

Okay, but she could have been Monica's taller bustier sister, yes?


>> Was it unrealistic that Monica still harbours doubts about Chandler's
>> love for her? Or will the spectre of once again being overweight always
>> hang over her head?

> That's a strange place for excess weight to hang! :)

ROTFL! Very good, Paul. :)


>> Rachel befriending Chandler when he was 25 is not a continuity error as
>> some have claimed. This was his age when the series began, and she only
>> *met* him earlier, she didn't befriend him.

> That's how I read it too.

Ah, good. You wouldn't believe the arguments about this, last November.


>> What of the homosexual undercurrents to this episode? Rachel & Phoebe
>> held each other's hands in public & joked about showering together.

> Well Phoebe said that, anyway - but it was only to make Ross & Joey pick
> her as maid of honour!

It worked!


> PS, please somebody reply to my review too!

I already have, Paul. Hasn't it come through yet?


>> No spoilers PLEASE from anyone who has already seen episodes 707-724.

Tennant

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In article <na.907d174aa8...@argonet.co.uk>,

Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <4aa86b1...@argonet.co.uk>, Chis <ch...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:

> > Oh while I'm on it Chandler owes Monica ten bucks!!! and Chandler owes
> > Pheobe $7,000!!

> The $7,000 was for stopping smoking, but was was the ten bucks?

"Ten bucks says I never see that woman again" - Monica TOW the Flashbacks

> > And the second wedding Rachel was really drunk

> Yeah, but not too drunk to invite Joey & Phoebe.

I think had Mon & Chan been in their room then they may have been invited.

> We don't know. Cross your fingers that she will say her middle name
> as part of her wedding vows.

I know the answer to that.

> > She gasped that rachel would marry Ross, indicated she might have
> > feelings for him still and gasped at Joey cos Pheobe wants him for
> > herself. is it me or does anyone else not trust Pheobe anymore?

> Oh, I reckon that Phoebe is very sneaky & manipulative.

I dislike it. I prefered it when her character wasn't so deep.

> >> Ross being more supportive about the duplicate videos suggests that
> >> these days it's he & Joey who are the best buds - not Chandler & Joey.

> > Ross and Joeys relationship has developed a lot more over the last
> > couple of seasons, I feel mainly cos Chandler's not there with Joey all
> > the time and has the missus to be busy with! So naturally, Ross and Joey
> > have become closer although Chandler and Joey's bond still is there.

> How does that make you feel?

I feel better for Ross, because Chandler did tend to ignore Ross a bit.

> > Men, in general are homophobic (yes i am making a generalisation) the
> > thought of finding out one of their close friends is gay freaks them
> > out, and doing anything gay freaks them out. Women aren't always relaxed
> > about it, but are more accepting, generally. Plus we all know how
> > lesbianism gets men going, a perfect weapon.

> This is so true. When I was in my twenties, I discovered that one of my
> friends was gay, which was rather unsettling even though I hadn't seen
> him since we left school. Of course, the law of averages means that a
> few more must have been, but I prefer not to think about that.

My point exactly it unsettles you, and I don't understand why to be
perfectly honest.

> As for lesbianism, it just seems obvious to find girls attractive. :)

For a guy.....

> > I think Chandler is easy target for gay jokes, as, we have seen, he has
> > been mistaken for being gay frequently.

> Yeah. Hopefully the writers seem to be doing something about this now, by
> making such jokes about the others, even if they haven't backed off him.

> > Suddenly I realise TOW the Thanksgiving Flashbacks has a HUUge continuity
> > error!
> Ooh, go on Chis...

Correct me if I'm wrong, but If Rachel had thought Chandler was gay when
she first met him, which she did in season 1 if i remember correctly, in
that episode she never mentioned to monica that she thought this, else she
would have said, you'd never get him naked with you because you're not a
guy or something similar. So, was she referring to when she met him in TOW
the Flashbacks, but she can't mean then because she had that sexual,
fantasy thing with him, and if she thought he was gay then, she wouldn't.
So therefore it must refer to when she met him in the pilot episode, in
which she doesn't rmember him at all then, or in TOW the Flashabacks...hang
on that means TOW the Thanksgiving flashbacks was more continuity error ful
than I thought..and it was such a great episode!!!!!!!

Chis - who has waaay too much free time.

Tennant Stuart

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In article <4aa89f9...@argonet.co.uk>, Chis <ch...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:

> In article <na.907d174aa8...@argonet.co.uk>,
> Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:

>>> Oh while I'm on it Chandler owes Monica ten bucks!!! and Chandler owes
>>> Pheobe $7,000!!

>> The $7,000 was for stopping smoking, but what was the ten bucks?

> "Ten bucks says I never see that woman again" - Monica TOW the Flashbacks

Lol! But Chandler didn't accept the bet. :)


>>> And the second wedding Rachel was really drunk

>> Yeah, but not too drunk to invite Joey & Phoebe.

> I think had Mon & Chan been in their room then they may have been invited.

Yes of course, I agree actually.


>> We don't know. Cross your fingers that she will say her middle name
>> as part of her wedding vows.

> I know the answer to that.

Okay. :)


>>> She gasped that rachel would marry Ross, indicated she might have
>>> feelings for him still and gasped at Joey cos Pheobe wants him for
>>> herself. is it me or does anyone else not trust Pheobe anymore?

>> Oh, I reckon that Phoebe is very sneaky & manipulative.

> I dislike it. I prefered it when her character wasn't so deep.

It's all the fault of studying Eng.Lit...


>>> Ross and Joeys relationship has developed a lot more over the last
>>> couple of seasons, I feel mainly cos Chandler's not there with Joey
>>> all the time and has the missus to be busy with! So naturally, Ross
>>> and Joey have become closer although Chandler and Joey's bond still is
>>> there.

>> How does that make you feel?

> I feel better for Ross, because Chandler did tend to ignore Ross a bit.

Well yes, it's amazing how few Ross & Chandler stories there have
been - four, compared with 11 Joey & Ross and 28 Joey & Chandler.


>>> Men, in general are homophobic (yes i am making a generalisation) the
>>> thought of finding out one of their close friends is gay freaks them
>>> out, and doing anything gay freaks them out. Women aren't always
>>> relaxed about it, but are more accepting, generally. Plus we all know
>>> how lesbianism gets men going, a perfect weapon.

>> This is so true. When I was in my twenties, I discovered that one of my
>> friends was gay, which was rather unsettling even though I hadn't seen
>> him since we left school. Of course, the law of averages means that a
>> few more must have been, but I prefer not to think about that.

> My point exactly it unsettles you, and I don't understand why to be
> perfectly honest.

It's not easy being a guy... :(


>> As for lesbianism, it just seems obvious to find girls attractive. :)

> For a guy.....

Indeedy.


>>> Suddenly I realise TOW the Thanksgiving Flashbacks has a HUUge
>>> continuity error! Ooh, go on Chis...

> Correct me if I'm wrong, but If Rachel had thought Chandler was gay when
> she first met him, which she did in season 1 if i remember correctly, in
> that episode she never mentioned to monica that she thought this, else
> she would have said, you'd never get him naked with you because you're
> not a guy or something similar. So, was she referring to when she met
> him in TOW the Flashbacks, but she can't mean then because she had that
> sexual, fantasy thing with him, and if she thought he was gay then, she
> wouldn't. So therefore it must refer to when she met him in the pilot

> episode, in which she doesn't remember him at all then, or in TOW the


> Flashabacks...hang on that means TOW the Thanksgiving flashbacks was

> more continuity errorful than I thought..and it was such a great
> episode!!!!!!!

Ah yes, this is all part of the "When did Rachel first meet Chandler"
question, which has no easy answer because those two great flashback
episodes had to be shoe-horned into the existing continuity. I think
the way that JA plays the young Rachel is the key here. She was so
shallow & self-centered in the 1980s that she barely took any notice
of daft young Chandler, and then in 1993 he was just some guy who was
not Barry, a mere object of her sexual fantasies. She didn't really
begin to relate to Chandler as a person until she lived next door.


> Chis - who has waaay too much free time.

Lol, I'm squeezing in a quickie before making an early start, only it's
getting a bit late since the guy who's driving hasn't shown up yet. :(

CandiGrrl

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> In article <9l2aim$3hp$1...@plutonium.btinternet.com>, "CandiGrrl"
> <Cand...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
> > Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:na.6ffb414aa7...@argonet.co.uk...
>
> >> 706 "TOW the Nap Partners"
>
> >> If Rachel had been given some vintage handkerchiefs, she would have
> >> exchanged them for store credit, because they would have no more than
> >> monetary value to her. However, vintage anything is the sort of item
> >> that would be calculated to appeal to Phoebe. And yet Rachel went to
> >> use them for her tears right there, which gave her deceit away.
>
> > Maybe they actually meant something to Rachel - maybe a much-loved
> > relative handed them down to her or something. And you can always
> > wash vintage handkerchiefs. They might have been real. I'm giving her
> > the benefit of the doubt :)
>
> Awww... you're so sweet. :)

Today I am, anyway.

> >> Wasn't Stacy Galina well cast as Julie Graff? She was so like Monica.
> >> If she returns, and Joey (or even more so Ross) should date her, there
> >> could be all sorts of unsettling undercurrents...
>
> > Hmm, yes. It would be a little like Russ in a way.
>
> Oh yes, there would be Russ-like undercurrents if Chandler dated
> her - but if Ross did, then something deeper & darker would lurk.

Shudder.

> >> Did you notice the sly little joke wherein Chandler described Julie as
> >> his camp girlfriend?
>
> > They're never going to stop with the Chandler-is-gay jokes, are they?
>
> It was only a little one, and peanuts compared with Ross & Joey.

Yeah, but the Ross and Joey joke isn't going to be stretched out over
the whole show.

> >> This means that both Chandler & Ross have had an ugly breakup with a
> >> girl named Julie; and in the extended pilot (at 17:30 on DVD) we heard
> >> that Joey had a date with a third Julie, but he had great difficultly
> >> remembering her name - so could that have been an ugly breakup too?
>
> > He probably just didn't call her. I doubt whether it was ugly. Joey
never
> > dates women long enough to actually be *able* to have an ugly breakup -
> > he doesn't wait for an emotional attachment.
>
> Oh, I agree actually, I'm just trying to get a perfect hat-trick going.

Well, how about if they just all *dated* a girl named Julie, but aren't
dating
her now?

> >> A skidmark, for any Europeans reading this, is the mark left on a pair
> >> of underpants when the owner does not properly clean himself (or
> >> herself) after going to the toilet; and has nothing to do with a rapid
> >> departure.
>
> > I knew that! Lovely.
>
> Yep. That was in because the word caused so much confusion around the
> world when the episode first aired in America.

I can just imagine it. "Chandler leaves tyre-marks on the road? Oh, the
humanity!"

> >> Was it unrealistic that Monica still harbours doubts about Chandler's
> >> love for her? Or will the spectre of once again being overweight always
> >> hang over her head?
>
> > Monica is the most insecure of all the Friends. She probably still
> > thinks of herself as a fat girl, partly due to issues with her mother.
> > Although she can now comfortably eat a tub of chocolate icecream, safe
> > in the knowledge that she will look *better* at the end, there's
> > probably always something inside reminding her of how she used to look.
>
> Yes. I think you are so right there, Mari.

As always.

> >> But note that Monica never yelled at Chandler, she remained warm and
> >> friendly throughout - and so not screechy. Yay!
>
> > Yay!
>
> The dark days of S6 are well behind us now. :)

Thank the Lord!

> >> Chandler says he called Monica fat behind her back, but that is both
> >> literally & figuratively wrong - she was behind his back.
>
> > Does that make it okay then?
>
> No it doesn't, I was just pointing out the error.
>
> Having said that, you could argue that his insult did her a favour.

No, I don't think it did. Fat Monica was actually Happier Monica. Although
her heart was in trouble! It would have been a lot better if she had wanted
to lose weight for herself - not just because her brother's friend made
fun of her.

> >> And Chandler is right. What's wrong with being a bit fat anyway?
>
> > Ohh. Don't ask me that. You wouldn't like the answer.
>
> Just as long as you don't think you have to be skinny to be attractive.

No... I don't think that. I just think that *I* have to be skinny to be
attractive!

> >> Monica's story was good consistent writing true to her character. Faced
> >> with a conflict in which she cannot chose one friend without offending
> >> another, she redefined the situation such that resolution could be
found
> >> without having to be partial, just as she did in 612 "TOW the Joke".
>
> > Maybe because Judy so obviously favoured Ross, it's made Monica
> > ultrasensitive to how it feels to be the underdog. She'd make a great
> > mother :)
>
> Absolutely, you are so wise.

Cue "wise face".

> >> Maid of Honour customs vary across the Atlantic. In America, a Maid of
> >> Honour is *unmarried* herself, otherwise she would be called a Matron
> >> of Honour. In Britain, a Maid of Honour is a *married* woman (or much
> >> older than the bride), otherwise she'd be called a Chief Bridesmaid.
>
> > Yep. Another alternative is 'Mistress Of The Ceremony'. Seriously.
Brings
> > up an image of the lead bridesmaid dressed in a leather catsuit,
spanking
> > all the naughty guests! I can't stop laughing now.
>
> ROTFLQ Oh my! I'm coughing, that was so funny.
>
> I've never heard of that expression. It's a shame that "mistress" has
> narrowed down to just the one meaning now.

Yeah. It's not very common... probably for the reason I just mentioned.
However
if you're really at a loss, you can use it at your own peril.

> >> For all that Rachel wants to be Monica's Maid of Honour, she has had
two
> >> weddings so far - and she didn't even INVITE Monica to either of them.
>
> > She might have invited her to the Vegas one, but Monica was busy
> > shoplifting.
>
> She was, and not for the first time, if you've seen the uncut version
> of "TOW Two Parts" on DVD...

I never saw that! I wish I had though!

> Dr.ROSEN: This hummus is great.
>
> Dr.MITCHELL: God bless the chickpea.
>
> MONICA: (as Rachel, suddenly laughing) Oh, god, I am so spoiled...
> That's it!
>
> RACHEL: (as Monica) I shoplift.
>
> MONICA: (as Rachel) That was years ago, and you had no idea that the
> lipstick was in your pocket. Did I tell you that I think I am
> so much cuter than I am?
>
> (The cute doctors don't know what to make of all this.)
>
> RACHEL: (as Monica) And by the way, have I mentioned that back in high
> school, I was a cow?
>
>
> >> Will Monica take Chandler's surname, as Rachel assumed? If she does,
her
> >> initials will be MEB, which also stands for Magic Eight Ball...
>
> > Or maybe Monica would drop her middle name and use her maiden name
> > instead, the way Courteney Cox did. That way her name would be Monica
> > Geller Bing, no E - and we might never find out what it stood for :(
>
> Eek, and she would be MGB, just like something from S4 I can't mention.

...I'm lost.

> >> Did Phoebe gasp at the idea of Rachel marrying Ross or Joey, or because
> >> she wanted both of them for herself?
>
> > I think the latter! She wouldn't be shocked that Rachel might marry one
> > of them. She probably just feels possessive and doesn't want *either* of
> > them to marry anyone else.
>
> Wouldn't that make her as bad as Rachel?

Yes. Phoebe isn't a paragon of virtue. She breaks masseuse oaths.

> >> We know of Rachel being a Maid of Honour once before, at Barry &
Mindy's
> >> wedding. So when was the other occasion? However, this was no
continuity
> >> error since there is so much of these people's lives that we don't see.
>
> > No idea.
>
> Okay.
>
>
> >> Rachel & Phoebe still don't think much of Chandler, do they? Or are
they
> >> secretly jealous of his loving & trustful relationship with Monica?
>
> > I think they like him and all that... they just still see him as the
> > immature, joky guy who refuses to be tied down and don't think of him
> > as a catch!
>
> Awww...

I don't think they're jealous of Chandler. They might be jealous of Monica
though.
Not because she's engaged to Chandler, just because she's engaged at all.

> >> Was Ross being his Uncle Nathan, whom nobody invites to weddings?
>
> > Probably! hehe
>
> Hehe.
>
>
> >> The wedding speech competition was so funny, let's hope that the real
> >> speeches at the wedding reception won't seem an anti-climax.
>
> > They probably won't include showering together, naked. Monica would
> > be appalled.
>
> Yes she would, so I agree that they won't.

I just read my post as "They probably won't include showering together.
Naked
Monica would be appalled"...

> >> Marita Bakken points out how genuinely pheebish Phoebe was. Not just in
> >> comments like "you want a little taste of Pheebs?" & "we were all
> >> babies once", but warning that coins hate her & then discovering that
> >> the coins had finally forgiven her. The significance is that it's a
> >> beggar's point of view. See how badly she reacted in 510 "TOW the
> >> Inappropriate Sister" to anyone who failed to respect the charity
bucket.
>
> > Pheebish Phoebe is the best Phoebe of all.
>
> Indeed - and there are such pheebish delights on the way.. ;)

Yay!

> >> Ross being more supportive about the duplicate videos suggests that
> >> these days it's he & Joey who are the best buds - not Chandler & Joey.
>
> > It does! Chandler has moved onto a different wavelength!
>
> Ah, good way of putting it. Yes.
>
>
> >> What happened between the nap partners after they ran away from their
> >> friends? Do they still nap together at Ross's with the blinds shut?
>
> > Definitely. They just lock the door now.
>
> Haha, yes - a lesson which the others should learn.

Monica probably has a phobia of locking her door. She's locked it twice, I
think.
First time, she got locked out. The second time, the key broke.

> >> What of the homosexual undercurrents to this episode? Rachel & Phoebe
> >> held each other's hands in public & joked about showering together. Can
> >> women afford to be far more relaxed about these issues than men are?
>
> > Women are less uptight because people generally see lesbians as being
> > more socially acceptable than gay men. For example, when Phoebe said
> > that she and Rachel showered together, Ross and Joey were very
> > enthusiastic.
>
> Absolutely.
>
>
> > If it had been the other way around and Joey had been trying to convince
> > Rachel and Phoebe to choose him as Chandler's best man by saying that he
> > showered naked with Ross, they would probably have been... I don't know,
> > confused?! Women are more in touch with their feelings generally and
> > there isn't such a stigma around lesbians. I don't know if that made
> > sense.
>
> That made a great deal of sense Mari, thankyou very much.

Oh, no problem.

> Have you seen the history programmes by Simon Shama? In the one about
> the conflict between Elizabeth I and Mary Queen of Scots - cousins who
> never met, both had various disastrous relationships with men, battled
> as Protestant versus Catholic, Mary was ousted by Scotland and fled to
> England, Elizabeth had her beheaded but Mary's son James Stuart <grin>
> became king of both countries - Shama concluded that all their problems
> would have been solved if Elizabeth & Mary had married each other...

LOL. No, I haven't seen that actually, maybe I should.

Paul Hyett

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considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -
>
>>> Rachel befriending Chandler when he was 25 is not a continuity error as
>>> some have claimed. This was his age when the series began, and she only
>>> *met* him earlier, she didn't befriend him.
>
>> That's how I read it too.
>
>Ah, good. You wouldn't believe the arguments about this, last November.

Yes I would - I was there, don't forget! :)


>
>> PS, please somebody reply to my review too!
>
>I already have, Paul. Hasn't it come through yet?

It has, now.

Owen Shiers

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>
> > Man I should start writing reviews about your reviews Tennant, they're
> > so brilliant! I doubt very much whether there's a bigger fan.
>
> Thanks, Owen.
>
>
> > I was meaning to ask you do you know why S4C is airing S7 after C4?
> > Because TOW Nap Partners is on next week...
>
> I'm afraid I have no idea, maybe their website can help.
>
> Let me know what you think of the episode next week.
>
> Meanwhile, can you still see my review of S7-05?
>
>
Yeah I can thanks, I'll give it a read. There wasn't anything on S4C about
it. It's very annoying, I'm not saying there shouldn't be a Welsh channel
but they should at least give us the choice, sometimes the quality of
programming on S4C leaves much to be desired, and the times are always
different to Channel 4.

Owen


Owen Shiers

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"Paul Hyett" <pah...@activist.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 10 Aug 2001, Owen Shiers <str...@ntlworld.com> stated this
> considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -
> >>
> >> 706 "TOW the Nap Partners"
> >>
> >Man I should start writing reviews about your reviews Tennant, they're so
> >brilliant! I doubt very much whether there's a bigger fan.
>
> Ahem!
> --
> Sorry Paul, I forgot about you, I know you post a lot but Tennant's
knowledge seems undending!

Owen
>


Tennant Stuart

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In article <9l543b$20g$1...@plutonium.btinternet.com>, "CandiGrrl"
<Cand...@btinternet.com> wrote:

> Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message

> news:na.0865b04aa8...@argonet.co.uk...

>>>> 706 "TOW the Nap Partners"

>>>> If Rachel had been given some vintage handkerchiefs, she would have
>>>> exchanged them for store credit, because they would have no more than
>>>> monetary value to her. However, vintage anything is the sort of item
>>>> that would be calculated to appeal to Phoebe. And yet Rachel went to
>>>> use them for her tears right there, which gave her deceit away.

>>> Maybe they actually meant something to Rachel - maybe a much-loved
>>> relative handed them down to her or something. And you can always
>>> wash vintage handkerchiefs. They might have been real. I'm giving her
>>> the benefit of the doubt :)

>> Awww... you're so sweet. :)

> Today I am, anyway.

I'll take the good days as they come.


>>>> Wasn't Stacy Galina well cast as Julie Graff? She was so like Monica.
>>>> If she returns, and Joey (or even more so Ross) should date her,
>>>> there could be all sorts of unsettling undercurrents...

>>> Hmm, yes. It would be a little like Russ in a way.

>> Oh yes, there would be Russ-like undercurrents if Chandler dated her -
>> but if Ross did, then something deeper & darker would lurk.

> Shudder.

Exactly. Probably too heavy for "Friends".


>>>> Did you notice the sly little joke wherein Chandler described Julie
>>>> as his camp girlfriend?

>>> They're never going to stop with the Chandler-is-gay jokes, are they?

>> It was only a little one, and peanuts compared with Ross & Joey.

> Yeah, but the Ross and Joey joke isn't going to be stretched out over
> the whole show.

Wait & see...


>>>> This means that both Chandler & Ross have had an ugly breakup with a
>>>> girl named Julie; and in the extended pilot (at 17:30 on DVD) we
>>>> heard that Joey had a date with a third Julie, but he had great
>>>> difficultly remembering her name - so could that have been an ugly
>>>> breakup too?

>>> He probably just didn't call her. I doubt whether it was ugly. Joey
>>> never dates women long enough to actually be *able* to have an ugly

>>> breakup- he doesn't wait for an emotional attachment.

>> Oh, I agree actually, I'm just trying to get a perfect hat-trick going.

> Well, how about if they just all *dated* a girl named Julie, but aren't
> dating her now?

Oh for sure, but ever since Laura Mouse pointed out that two of the
Julies suffered ugly break-ups, I've been greedy for the Full Monty.


>>>> A skidmark, for any Europeans reading this, is the mark left on a
>>>> pair of underpants when the owner does not properly clean himself
>>>> (or herself) after going to the toilet; and has nothing to do with
>>>> a rapid departure.

>>> I knew that! Lovely.

>> Yep. That was in because the word caused so much confusion around the
>> world when the episode first aired in America.

> I can just imagine it. "Chandler leaves tyre-marks on the road? Oh, the
> humanity!"

Hehe.


>>>> But note that Monica never yelled at Chandler, she remained warm and
>>>> friendly throughout - and so not screechy. Yay!

>>> Yay!

>> The dark days of S6 are well behind us now. :)

> Thank the Lord!

Thank Alt-Monica.


>>>> Chandler says he called Monica fat behind her back, but that is both
>>>> literally & figuratively wrong - she was behind his back.

>>> Does that make it okay then?

>> No it doesn't, I was just pointing out the error.

>> Having said that, you could argue that his insult did her a favour.

> No, I don't think it did. Fat Monica was actually Happier Monica.
> Although her heart was in trouble! It would have been a lot better if
> she had wanted to lose weight for herself - not just because her
> brother's friend made fun of her.

Yes, I quite agree, which is why I qualified my remark. She could have
lost some weight to help her heart, but not so much that she ended up
less happy. But this is a very tricky area, and I'm so not adamant.


>>>> And Chandler is right. What's wrong with being a bit fat anyway?

>>> Ohh. Don't ask me that. You wouldn't like the answer.

>> Just as long as you don't think you have to be skinny to be attractive.

> No... I don't think that. I just think that *I* have to be skinny to be
> attractive!

Take it from me (which I realise you won't) you don't.


>>>> Monica's story was good consistent writing true to her character.
>>>> Faced with a conflict in which she cannot chose one friend without
>>>> offending another, she redefined the situation such that resolution
>>>> could be found without having to be partial, just as she did in 612
>>>> "TOW the Joke".

>>> Maybe because Judy so obviously favoured Ross, it's made Monica
>>> ultrasensitive to how it feels to be the underdog. She'd make a great
>>> mother :)

>> Absolutely, you are so wise.

> Cue "wise face".

Cue happy grin <G> ooh, there it is.


>>>> Maid of Honour customs vary across the Atlantic. In America, a Maid
>>>> of Honour is *unmarried* herself, otherwise she would be called a
>>>> Matron of Honour. In Britain, a Maid of Honour is a *married* woman
>>>> (or much older than the bride), otherwise she'd be called a Chief
>>>> Bridesmaid.

>>> Yep. Another alternative is 'Mistress Of The Ceremony'. Seriously.
>>> Brings up an image of the lead bridesmaid dressed in a leather
>>> catsuit, spanking all the naughty guests! I can't stop laughing now.

>> ROTFLQ Oh my! I'm coughing, that was so funny.

>> I've never heard of that expression. It's a shame that "mistress" has
>> narrowed down to just the one meaning now.

> Yeah. It's not very common... probably for the reason I just mentioned.
> However if you're really at a loss, you can use it at your own peril.

No thanks! :)

And if you're wondering what "ROTFLQ" meant, it was a typo for "ROTFL!"


>>>> For all that Rachel wants to be Monica's Maid of Honour, she has had
>>>> two weddings so far - and she didn't even INVITE Monica to either of
>>>> them.

>>> She might have invited her to the Vegas one, but Monica was busy
>>> shoplifting.

>> She was, and not for the first time, if you've seen the uncut version
>> of "TOW Two Parts" on DVD...

> I never saw that! I wish I had though!

It's also available on NTSC tape, I believe.


>>>> Will Monica take Chandler's surname, as Rachel assumed? If she does,
>>>> her initials will be MEB, which also stands for Magic Eight Ball...

>>> Or maybe Monica would drop her middle name and use her maiden name
>>> instead, the way Courteney Cox did. That way her name would be Monica
>>> Geller Bing, no E - and we might never find out what it stood for :(

>> Eek, and she would be MGB, just like something from S4 I can't mention.

> ...I'm lost.

Patience.


>>>> Did Phoebe gasp at the idea of Rachel marrying Ross or Joey, or
>>>> because she wanted both of them for herself?

>>> I think the latter! She wouldn't be shocked that Rachel might marry
>>> one of them. She probably just feels possessive and doesn't want
>>> *either* of them to marry anyone else.

>> Wouldn't that make her as bad as Rachel?

> Yes. Phoebe isn't a paragon of virtue. She breaks masseuse oaths.

Gasp!


>>>> Rachel & Phoebe still don't think much of Chandler, do they? Or are
>>>> they secretly jealous of his loving & trustful relationship with
>>>> Monica?

>>> I think they like him and all that... they just still see him as the
>>> immature, joky guy who refuses to be tied down and don't think of him
>>> as a catch!

>> Awww...

> I don't think they're jealous of Chandler. They might be jealous of
> Monica though. Not because she's engaged to Chandler, just because she's
> engaged at all.

Fair enough.


>>>> The wedding speech competition was so funny, let's hope that the real
>>>> speeches at the wedding reception won't seem an anti-climax.

>>> They probably won't include showering together, naked. Monica would
>>> be appalled.

>> Yes she would, so I agree that they won't.

> I just read my post as "They probably won't include showering together.
> Naked Monica would be appalled"...

Lol! Mention "showering together" to Naked Monica and she'll probably be
reminded of having a burning dollhouse thrust at her by her brother.


>>>> What happened between the nap partners after they ran away from their
>>>> friends? Do they still nap together at Ross's with the blinds shut?

>>> Definitely. They just lock the door now.

>> Haha, yes - a lesson which the others should learn.

> Monica probably has a phobia of locking her door. She's locked it twice, I
> think. First time, she got locked out. The second time, the key broke.

The key broke the third time. The second time, she had to stage a
lesbian sex show just to hang onto her own home.


>> Have you seen the history programmes by Simon Shama? In the one about
>> the conflict between Elizabeth I and Mary Queen of Scots - cousins who
>> never met, both had various disastrous relationships with men, battled
>> as Protestant versus Catholic, Mary was ousted by Scotland and fled to
>> England, Elizabeth had her beheaded but Mary's son James Stuart <grin>
>> became king of both countries - Shama concluded that all their problems
>> would have been solved if Elizabeth & Mary had married each other...

> LOL. No, I haven't seen that actually, maybe I should.

It's a good series, for Shama is an excellent story teller.

Tennant Stuart

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In article <ZKZMkTC$8id7...@activist.demon.co.uk>, Paul Hyett
<pah...@activist.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> On Sat, 11 Aug 2001, Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> stated this
> considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -

>>>> Rachel befriending Chandler when he was 25 is not a continuity error
>>>> as some have claimed. This was his age when the series began, and she
>>>> only *met* him earlier, she didn't befriend him.

>>> That's how I read it too.

>> Ah, good. You wouldn't believe the arguments about this, last November.

> Yes I would - I was there, don't forget! :)

Oh sorry, I thought you didn't comment on the episode before you saw
it on February 15th.


>>> PS, please somebody reply to my review too!

>> I already have, Paul. Hasn't it come through yet?

> It has, now.

Phew! :)


Tennant

Tennant Stuart

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In article <8cCd7.40884$e%3.55...@news2-win.server.ntlworld.com>, "Owen
Shiers" <str...@ntlworld.com> wrote:

>> Meanwhile, can you still see my review of S7-05?

> Yeah I can thanks, I'll give it a read.

Okay, looking forward to that. :)


> There wasn't anything on S4C about it. It's very annoying, I'm not
> saying there shouldn't be a Welsh channel but they should at least give
> us the choice, sometimes the quality of programming on S4C leaves much
> to be desired, and the times are always different to Channel 4.

Yeah it's also a right pain that On Digital (now renamed ITV Digital)
dedicates channels 8/17/18 to the Welsh & Scottish variations, which
leaves the English with a hole in the numbering that you can't get rid
of even by changing the numbers. And not having the 8 loses you a nice
single-digit input on the remote control.

CandiGrrl

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Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> In article <9l543b$20g$1...@plutonium.btinternet.com>, "CandiGrrl"
> <Cand...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
> > Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:na.0865b04aa8...@argonet.co.uk...
>
> >>>> 706 "TOW the Nap Partners"
>
> >>>> If Rachel had been given some vintage handkerchiefs, she would have
> >>>> exchanged them for store credit, because they would have no more than
> >>>> monetary value to her. However, vintage anything is the sort of item
> >>>> that would be calculated to appeal to Phoebe. And yet Rachel went to
> >>>> use them for her tears right there, which gave her deceit away.
>
> >>> Maybe they actually meant something to Rachel - maybe a much-loved
> >>> relative handed them down to her or something. And you can always
> >>> wash vintage handkerchiefs. They might have been real. I'm giving her
> >>> the benefit of the doubt :)
>
> >> Awww... you're so sweet. :)
>
> > Today I am, anyway.
>
> I'll take the good days as they come.

Probably the best idea.

> >>>> Wasn't Stacy Galina well cast as Julie Graff? She was so like Monica.
> >>>> If she returns, and Joey (or even more so Ross) should date her,
> >>>> there could be all sorts of unsettling undercurrents...
>
> >>> Hmm, yes. It would be a little like Russ in a way.
>
> >> Oh yes, there would be Russ-like undercurrents if Chandler dated her -
> >> but if Ross did, then something deeper & darker would lurk.
>
> > Shudder.
>
> Exactly. Probably too heavy for "Friends".

I would have thought so! The closest they've come is Monica dating Richard's
son in TOW Chandler In A Box, and Danny and Krista in TOW The Inappropriate
Sister. She's called Krista, right? Did I get that right? Hope so.

> >>>> Did you notice the sly little joke wherein Chandler described Julie
> >>>> as his camp girlfriend?
>
> >>> They're never going to stop with the Chandler-is-gay jokes, are they?
>
> >> It was only a little one, and peanuts compared with Ross & Joey.
>
> > Yeah, but the Ross and Joey joke isn't going to be stretched out over
> > the whole show.
>
> Wait & see...

<Phoebe voice> Oh, no. </strange non-Phoebe-sounding voice>

> >>>> This means that both Chandler & Ross have had an ugly breakup with a
> >>>> girl named Julie; and in the extended pilot (at 17:30 on DVD) we
> >>>> heard that Joey had a date with a third Julie, but he had great
> >>>> difficultly remembering her name - so could that have been an ugly
> >>>> breakup too?
>
> >>> He probably just didn't call her. I doubt whether it was ugly. Joey
> >>> never dates women long enough to actually be *able* to have an ugly
> >>> breakup- he doesn't wait for an emotional attachment.
>
> >> Oh, I agree actually, I'm just trying to get a perfect hat-trick going.
>
> > Well, how about if they just all *dated* a girl named Julie, but aren't
> > dating her now?
>
> Oh for sure, but ever since Laura Mouse pointed out that two of the
> Julies suffered ugly break-ups, I've been greedy for the Full Monty.

Well, maybe Joey will, one day. Wait and see (as I think someone said
earlier)

> >>>> A skidmark, for any Europeans reading this, is the mark left on a
> >>>> pair of underpants when the owner does not properly clean himself
> >>>> (or herself) after going to the toilet; and has nothing to do with
> >>>> a rapid departure.
>
> >>> I knew that! Lovely.
>
> >> Yep. That was in because the word caused so much confusion around the
> >> world when the episode first aired in America.
>
> > I can just imagine it. "Chandler leaves tyre-marks on the road? Oh, the
> > humanity!"
>
> Hehe.
>
>
> >>>> But note that Monica never yelled at Chandler, she remained warm and
> >>>> friendly throughout - and so not screechy. Yay!
>
> >>> Yay!
>
> >> The dark days of S6 are well behind us now. :)
>
> > Thank the Lord!
>
> Thank Alt-Monica.

Thank the people who banned DA from the set. Ooh, did I say that out loud?
No, I typed it and I do have a delete button, so I guess I wanted it to stay
in.

> >>>> Chandler says he called Monica fat behind her back, but that is both
> >>>> literally & figuratively wrong - she was behind his back.
>
> >>> Does that make it okay then?
>
> >> No it doesn't, I was just pointing out the error.
>
> >> Having said that, you could argue that his insult did her a favour.
>
> > No, I don't think it did. Fat Monica was actually Happier Monica.
> > Although her heart was in trouble! It would have been a lot better if
> > she had wanted to lose weight for herself - not just because her
> > brother's friend made fun of her.
>
> Yes, I quite agree, which is why I qualified my remark. She could have
> lost some weight to help her heart, but not so much that she ended up
> less happy. But this is a very tricky area, and I'm so not adamant.

I agree. Poor Mon :(

> >>>> And Chandler is right. What's wrong with being a bit fat anyway?
>
> >>> Ohh. Don't ask me that. You wouldn't like the answer.
>
> >> Just as long as you don't think you have to be skinny to be attractive.
>
> > No... I don't think that. I just think that *I* have to be skinny to be
> > attractive!
>
> Take it from me (which I realise you won't) you don't.

People say that to me, but all my life I've never been more than a size 8
(USA 4), and I never want to be more than that. I can be VERY stubborn
when I want. :)

> >>>> Monica's story was good consistent writing true to her character.
> >>>> Faced with a conflict in which she cannot chose one friend without
> >>>> offending another, she redefined the situation such that resolution
> >>>> could be found without having to be partial, just as she did in 612
> >>>> "TOW the Joke".
>
> >>> Maybe because Judy so obviously favoured Ross, it's made Monica
> >>> ultrasensitive to how it feels to be the underdog. She'd make a great
> >>> mother :)
>
> >> Absolutely, you are so wise.
>
> > Cue "wise face".
>
> Cue happy grin <G> ooh, there it is.

My friend Sonja put a photo of me doing that on her website. Also a picture
that I made of a sort of bear thing.

> >>>> Maid of Honour customs vary across the Atlantic. In America, a Maid
> >>>> of Honour is *unmarried* herself, otherwise she would be called a
> >>>> Matron of Honour. In Britain, a Maid of Honour is a *married* woman
> >>>> (or much older than the bride), otherwise she'd be called a Chief
> >>>> Bridesmaid.
>
> >>> Yep. Another alternative is 'Mistress Of The Ceremony'. Seriously.
> >>> Brings up an image of the lead bridesmaid dressed in a leather
> >>> catsuit, spanking all the naughty guests! I can't stop laughing now.
>
> >> ROTFLQ Oh my! I'm coughing, that was so funny.
>
> >> I've never heard of that expression. It's a shame that "mistress" has
> >> narrowed down to just the one meaning now.
>
> > Yeah. It's not very common... probably for the reason I just mentioned.
> > However if you're really at a loss, you can use it at your own peril.
>
> No thanks! :)
>
> And if you're wondering what "ROTFLQ" meant, it was a typo for "ROTFL!"

Maybe you were laughing too hard! haha!

> >>>> For all that Rachel wants to be Monica's Maid of Honour, she has had
> >>>> two weddings so far - and she didn't even INVITE Monica to either of
> >>>> them.
>
> >>> She might have invited her to the Vegas one, but Monica was busy
> >>> shoplifting.
>
> >> She was, and not for the first time, if you've seen the uncut version
> >> of "TOW Two Parts" on DVD...
>
> > I never saw that! I wish I had though!
>
> It's also available on NTSC tape, I believe.

Well my new, funky VCR plays them!!!

> >>>> Will Monica take Chandler's surname, as Rachel assumed? If she does,
> >>>> her initials will be MEB, which also stands for Magic Eight Ball...
>
> >>> Or maybe Monica would drop her middle name and use her maiden name
> >>> instead, the way Courteney Cox did. That way her name would be Monica
> >>> Geller Bing, no E - and we might never find out what it stood for :(
>
> >> Eek, and she would be MGB, just like something from S4 I can't mention.
>
> > ...I'm lost.
>
> Patience.

I'm blonde. Explain? Or hint?

> >>>> Did Phoebe gasp at the idea of Rachel marrying Ross or Joey, or
> >>>> because she wanted both of them for herself?
>
> >>> I think the latter! She wouldn't be shocked that Rachel might marry
> >>> one of them. She probably just feels possessive and doesn't want
> >>> *either* of them to marry anyone else.
>
> >> Wouldn't that make her as bad as Rachel?
>
> > Yes. Phoebe isn't a paragon of virtue. She breaks masseuse oaths.
>
> Gasp!

It's true. Phoebe is... Satan.

> >>>> Rachel & Phoebe still don't think much of Chandler, do they? Or are
> >>>> they secretly jealous of his loving & trustful relationship with
> >>>> Monica?
>
> >>> I think they like him and all that... they just still see him as the
> >>> immature, joky guy who refuses to be tied down and don't think of him
> >>> as a catch!
>
> >> Awww...
>
> > I don't think they're jealous of Chandler. They might be jealous of
> > Monica though. Not because she's engaged to Chandler, just because she's
> > engaged at all.
>
> Fair enough.
>
>
> >>>> The wedding speech competition was so funny, let's hope that the real
> >>>> speeches at the wedding reception won't seem an anti-climax.
>
> >>> They probably won't include showering together, naked. Monica would
> >>> be appalled.
>
> >> Yes she would, so I agree that they won't.
>
> > I just read my post as "They probably won't include showering together.
> > Naked Monica would be appalled"...
>
> Lol! Mention "showering together" to Naked Monica and she'll probably be
> reminded of having a burning dollhouse thrust at her by her brother.

Or having Joey run in on her, while she's wearing a shower cap. Hopefully
she wasn't testing the massager at that point. ...Why did I mention the
shower cap?
I have no idea. I just always remember that.

> >>>> What happened between the nap partners after they ran away from their
> >>>> friends? Do they still nap together at Ross's with the blinds shut?
>
> >>> Definitely. They just lock the door now.
>
> >> Haha, yes - a lesson which the others should learn.
>
> > Monica probably has a phobia of locking her door. She's locked it twice,
I
> > think. First time, she got locked out. The second time, the key broke.
>
> The key broke the third time. The second time, she had to stage a
> lesbian sex show just to hang onto her own home.

Did she lock it that time, or just put the chain on?

> >> Have you seen the history programmes by Simon Shama? In the one about
> >> the conflict between Elizabeth I and Mary Queen of Scots - cousins who
> >> never met, both had various disastrous relationships with men, battled
> >> as Protestant versus Catholic, Mary was ousted by Scotland and fled to
> >> England, Elizabeth had her beheaded but Mary's son James Stuart <grin>
> >> became king of both countries - Shama concluded that all their problems
> >> would have been solved if Elizabeth & Mary had married each other...
>
> > LOL. No, I haven't seen that actually, maybe I should.
>
> It's a good series, for Shama is an excellent story teller.

:)

Owen Shiers

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>
> >> Meanwhile, can you still see my review of S7-05?
>
> > Yeah I can thanks, I'll give it a read.
>
> Okay, looking forward to that. :)
>

Actually, I've only got the replies...do you think you could post the
original in the thread because the posts there don't make much sense because
I havn't read the orininal :)


>
> > There wasn't anything on S4C about it. It's very annoying, I'm not
> > saying there shouldn't be a Welsh channel but they should at least give
> > us the choice, sometimes the quality of programming on S4C leaves much
> > to be desired, and the times are always different to Channel 4.
>
> Yeah it's also a right pain that On Digital (now renamed ITV Digital)
> dedicates channels 8/17/18 to the Welsh & Scottish variations, which
> leaves the English with a hole in the numbering that you can't get rid
> of even by changing the numbers. And not having the 8 loses you a nice
> single-digit input on the remote control.

I personally hate S4C, I'd much rather have channel 4, the programming is
much better and you don't have to put up with noson lawen. Believe me,
they're so desperate for programs, I've been on one about 5 times!

Owen
>

Mardi

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"Owen Shiers" <str...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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> >
> > >> Meanwhile, can you still see my review of S7-05?
> >
> > > Yeah I can thanks, I'll give it a read.
> >
> > Okay, looking forward to that. :)
> >
>
> Actually, I've only got the replies...do you think you could post the
> original in the thread because the posts there don't make much sense
because
> I havn't read the orininal :)

Owen, you can read it here:

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&th=edde9c483baaad54,157&rnum=
1&selm=na.d113d74a1e.a806e0tennant%40argonet.co.uk

Mardi


Tennant Stuart

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In article <9l87ka$b5m$1...@plutonium.btinternet.com>, "CandiGrrl"
<Cand...@btinternet.com> wrote:

> Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message

> news:na.8715a24aa9...@argonet.co.uk...

>>>>>> Wasn't Stacy Galina well cast as Julie Graff? She was so like
>>>>>> Monica. If she returns, and Joey (or even more so Ross) should date
>>>>>> her, there could be all sorts of unsettling undercurrents...

>>>>> Hmm, yes. It would be a little like Russ in a way.

>>>> Oh yes, there would be Russ-like undercurrents if Chandler dated her-
>>>> but if Ross did, then something deeper & darker would lurk.

>>> Shudder.

>> Exactly. Probably too heavy for "Friends".

> I would have thought so! The closest they've come is Monica dating
> Richard's son in TOW Chandler In A Box, and Danny and Krista in TOW The
> Inappropriate Sister.

There's also Ross & Jill.


> She's called Krista, right? Did I get that right? Hope so.

Errr <checks> yes. :)

Of the three examples, only Danny & Krista were actually related though.


>> Wait & see...

> <Phoebe voice> Oh, no. </strange non-Phoebe-sounding voice>

Lol, isn't the strange non-Phoebe-sounding voice a Monica voice?


>> Oh for sure, but ever since Laura Mouse pointed out that two of the
>> Julies suffered ugly break-ups, I've been greedy for the Full Monty.

> Well, maybe Joey will, one day. Wait and see (as I think someone said
> earlier)

Hehe.


>>>> The dark days of S6 are well behind us now. :)

>>> Thank the Lord!

>> Thank Alt-Monica.

> Thank the people who banned DA from the set. Ooh, did I say that out
> loud? No, I typed it and I do have a delete button, so I guess I wanted
> it to stay in.

No need to be shy, I reckon you're dead right.


>> Yes, she could have lost some weight to help her heart, but not so much


>> that she ended up less happy. But this is a very tricky area, and I'm
>> so not adamant.

> I agree. Poor Mon :(

Wait & see...


>>> I just think that *I* have to be skinny to be attractive!

>> Take it from me (which I realise you won't) you don't.

> People say that to me, but all my life I've never been more than a size 8
> (USA 4), and I never want to be more than that. I can be VERY stubborn
> when I want. :)

Just don't be less than that, okay sweetie?


>>> Cue "wise face".

>> Cue happy grin <G> ooh, there it is.

> My friend Sonja put a photo of me doing that on her website. Also a
> picture that I made of a sort of bear thing.

Ooh, URL?


>>>>> Another alternative is 'Mistress Of The Ceremony'. Brings up an


>>>>> image of the lead bridesmaid dressed in a leather catsuit, spanking
>>>>> all the naughty guests! I can't stop laughing now.

>>>> ROTFLQ Oh my! I'm coughing, that was so funny.

>>>> I've never heard of that expression. It's a shame that "mistress" has
>>>> narrowed down to just the one meaning now.

>>> Yeah. It's not very common... probably for the reason I just
>>> mentioned. However if you're really at a loss, you can use it at your
>>> own peril.

>> No thanks! :)

>> And if you're wondering what "ROTFLQ" meant, it was a typo for "ROTFL!"

> Maybe you were laughing too hard! haha!

Hah, "Maybe" has nothing to do with it, I was.

>>>>>> For all that Rachel wants to be Monica's Maid of Honour, she has
>>>>>> had two weddings so far - and she didn't even INVITE Monica to
>>>>>> either of them.

>>>>> She might have invited her to the Vegas one, but Monica was busy
>>>>> shoplifting.

>>>> She was, and not for the first time, if you've seen the uncut version
>>>> of "TOW Two Parts" on DVD...

>>> I never saw that! I wish I had though!

>> It's also available on NTSC tape, I believe.

> Well my new, funky VCR plays them!!!

Yay! Now you can buy the American box set of 12 extended episodes.


>>>>>> Will Monica take Chandler's surname, as Rachel assumed? If she
>>>>>> does, her initials will be MEB, which also stands for Magic Eight
>>>>>> Ball...

>>>>> Or maybe Monica would drop her middle name and use her maiden name
>>>>> instead, the way Courteney Cox did. That way her name would be
>>>>> Monica Geller Bing, no E - and we might never find out what it stood
>>>>> for :(

>>>> Eek, and she would be MGB, just like something from S4 I can't mention.

>>> ...I'm lost.

>> Patience.

> I'm blonde.

I've always had the greatest respect for the intelligence of blondes.

Sorry to be boring, but I'm so not kidding.


> Explain? Or hint?

Just keep thinking "MGB" for a couple of months.


>>>> Wouldn't that make her as bad as Rachel?

>>> Yes. Phoebe isn't a paragon of virtue. She breaks masseuse oaths.

>> Gasp!

> It's true. Phoebe is... Satan.

That was the neighbour's dog. :)


>> Lol! Mention "showering together" to Naked Monica and she'll probably be
>> reminded of having a burning dollhouse thrust at her by her brother.

> Or having Joey run in on her, while she's wearing a shower cap. Hopefully
> she wasn't testing the massager at that point. ...Why did I mention the
> shower cap?

> I have no idea. I just always remember that.

You might, but I bet you that Monica never thinks of that - not since
the trauma of the suddenly burning dollhouse incident, anyway.


>>> Monica probably has a phobia of locking her door. She's locked it
>>> twice, I think. First time, she got locked out. The second time, the
>>> key broke.

>> The key broke the third time. The second time, she had to stage a
>> lesbian sex show just to hang onto her own home.

> Did she lock it that time, or just put the chain on?

It's hard to be sure, since Chandler & Joey went to #19 first, to find
their furniture there, so they never tried to just walk into their own
apartment. Then they rushed across the hallway, and banged on the door
of #20, instead of trying to enter, then Monica opened the door on its
chain, but we don't know if she unlocked it first.

However, considering the situation, Monica must have locked the door.

CandiGrrl

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Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message news:<na.e486b54aa9...@argonet.co.uk>...

> In article <9l87ka$b5m$1...@plutonium.btinternet.com>, "CandiGrrl"
> <Cand...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
> > Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:na.8715a24aa9...@argonet.co.uk...
>
> >>>>>> Wasn't Stacy Galina well cast as Julie Graff? She was so like
> >>>>>> Monica. If she returns, and Joey (or even more so Ross) should date
> >>>>>> her, there could be all sorts of unsettling undercurrents...
>
> >>>>> Hmm, yes. It would be a little like Russ in a way.
>
> >>>> Oh yes, there would be Russ-like undercurrents if Chandler dated her-
> >>>> but if Ross did, then something deeper & darker would lurk.
>
> >>> Shudder.
>
> >> Exactly. Probably too heavy for "Friends".
>
> > I would have thought so! The closest they've come is Monica dating
> > Richard's son in TOW Chandler In A Box, and Danny and Krista in TOW The
> > Inappropriate Sister.
>
> There's also Ross & Jill.

I thought of that, but didn't include it because it wasn't as icky. It
was just uncomfortable for Rachel.

> > She's called Krista, right? Did I get that right? Hope so.
>
> Errr <checks> yes. :)
>
> Of the three examples, only Danny & Krista were actually related though.

Yeah. It is too heavy for them :)

> >> Wait & see...
>
> > <Phoebe voice> Oh, no. </strange non-Phoebe-sounding voice>
>
> Lol, isn't the strange non-Phoebe-sounding voice a Monica voice?

I really don't know what it was. It was scary.

> >> Oh for sure, but ever since Laura Mouse pointed out that two of the
> >> Julies suffered ugly break-ups, I've been greedy for the Full Monty.
>
> > Well, maybe Joey will, one day. Wait and see (as I think someone said
> > earlier)
>
> Hehe.
>
>
> >>>> The dark days of S6 are well behind us now. :)
>
> >>> Thank the Lord!
>
> >> Thank Alt-Monica.
>
> > Thank the people who banned DA from the set. Ooh, did I say that out
> > loud? No, I typed it and I do have a delete button, so I guess I wanted
> > it to stay in.
>
> No need to be shy, I reckon you're dead right.

Yeah, me too actually.

> >> Yes, she could have lost some weight to help her heart, but not so much
> >> that she ended up less happy. But this is a very tricky area, and I'm
> >> so not adamant.
>
> > I agree. Poor Mon :(
>
> Wait & see...

It's a catchphrase!

> >>> I just think that *I* have to be skinny to be attractive!
>
> >> Take it from me (which I realise you won't) you don't.
>
> > People say that to me, but all my life I've never been more than a size 8
> > (USA 4), and I never want to be more than that. I can be VERY stubborn
> > when I want. :)
>
> Just don't be less than that, okay sweetie?

Hmmm.

> >>> Cue "wise face".
>
> >> Cue happy grin <G> ooh, there it is.
>
> > My friend Sonja put a photo of me doing that on her website. Also a
> > picture that I made of a sort of bear thing.
>
> Ooh, URL?

It's linked from my website.

> >>>>> Another alternative is 'Mistress Of The Ceremony'. Brings up an
> >>>>> image of the lead bridesmaid dressed in a leather catsuit, spanking
> >>>>> all the naughty guests! I can't stop laughing now.
>
> >>>> ROTFLQ Oh my! I'm coughing, that was so funny.
>
> >>>> I've never heard of that expression. It's a shame that "mistress" has
> >>>> narrowed down to just the one meaning now.
>
> >>> Yeah. It's not very common... probably for the reason I just
> >>> mentioned. However if you're really at a loss, you can use it at your
> >>> own peril.
>
> >> No thanks! :)
>
> >> And if you're wondering what "ROTFLQ" meant, it was a typo for "ROTFL!"
>
> > Maybe you were laughing too hard! haha!
>
> Hah, "Maybe" has nothing to do with it, I was.

I now have a mental picture of Rachel doing that. She could borrow
Monica's hooker boots, which were probably hers in the first place.

> >>>>>> For all that Rachel wants to be Monica's Maid of Honour, she has
> >>>>>> had two weddings so far - and she didn't even INVITE Monica to
> >>>>>> either of them.
>
> >>>>> She might have invited her to the Vegas one, but Monica was busy
> >>>>> shoplifting.
>
> >>>> She was, and not for the first time, if you've seen the uncut version
> >>>> of "TOW Two Parts" on DVD...
>
> >>> I never saw that! I wish I had though!
>
> >> It's also available on NTSC tape, I believe.
>
> > Well my new, funky VCR plays them!!!
>
> Yay! Now you can buy the American box set of 12 extended episodes.

I will... one day. After I've completed my Julia Roberts/Courteney
Cox/other stuff collections.

> >>>>>> Will Monica take Chandler's surname, as Rachel assumed? If she
> >>>>>> does, her initials will be MEB, which also stands for Magic Eight
> >>>>>> Ball...
>
> >>>>> Or maybe Monica would drop her middle name and use her maiden name
> >>>>> instead, the way Courteney Cox did. That way her name would be
> >>>>> Monica Geller Bing, no E - and we might never find out what it stood
> >>>>> for :(
>
> >>>> Eek, and she would be MGB, just like something from S4 I can't mention.
>
> >>> ...I'm lost.
>
> >> Patience.
>
> > I'm blonde.
>
> I've always had the greatest respect for the intelligence of blondes.
>
> Sorry to be boring, but I'm so not kidding.

Well, that's good. When I had my hair brown before, people treated me
differently. Then it went blonde again and they all started talking
down. I also get blonde jokes... a lot.

> > Explain? Or hint?
>
> Just keep thinking "MGB" for a couple of months.

Isn't that a kind of car?!

> >>>> Wouldn't that make her as bad as Rachel?
>
> >>> Yes. Phoebe isn't a paragon of virtue. She breaks masseuse oaths.
>
> >> Gasp!
>
> > It's true. Phoebe is... Satan.
>
> That was the neighbour's dog. :)

Probably Phoebe in a past life.

> >> Lol! Mention "showering together" to Naked Monica and she'll probably be
> >> reminded of having a burning dollhouse thrust at her by her brother.
>
> > Or having Joey run in on her, while she's wearing a shower cap. Hopefully
> > she wasn't testing the massager at that point. ...Why did I mention the
> > shower cap?
>
> > I have no idea. I just always remember that.
>
> You might, but I bet you that Monica never thinks of that - not since
> the trauma of the suddenly burning dollhouse incident, anyway.

Probably. Well, she might think of it - just not as often as the
images of the flaming dollhouse cross her mind.

> >>> Monica probably has a phobia of locking her door. She's locked it
> >>> twice, I think. First time, she got locked out. The second time, the
> >>> key broke.
>
> >> The key broke the third time. The second time, she had to stage a
> >> lesbian sex show just to hang onto her own home.
>
> > Did she lock it that time, or just put the chain on?
>
> It's hard to be sure, since Chandler & Joey went to #19 first, to find
> their furniture there, so they never tried to just walk into their own
> apartment. Then they rushed across the hallway, and banged on the door
> of #20, instead of trying to enter, then Monica opened the door on its
> chain, but we don't know if she unlocked it first.
>
> However, considering the situation, Monica must have locked the door.

Not if it was on the chain. She wouldn't have needed to. Also, if she
had just locked it, Joey and Chandler would have just been able to let
themselves in. I'm pretty sure that if they were living there, they
had a key.

Tennant Stuart

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In article <8XWd7.45768$e%3.68...@news2-win.server.ntlworld.com>, "Owen
Shiers" <str...@ntlworld.com> wrote:

>>>> Meanwhile, can you still see my review of S7-05?

>>> Yeah I can thanks, I'll give it a read.

>> Okay, looking forward to that. :)

> Actually, I've only got the replies...do you think you could post the
> original in the thread because the posts there don't make much sense
> because I havn't read the orininal :)

Sure, no worries.


>>> There wasn't anything on S4C about it. It's very annoying, I'm not
>>> saying there shouldn't be a Welsh channel but they should at least
>>> give us the choice, sometimes the quality of programming on S4C leaves
>>> much to be desired, and the times are always different to Channel 4.

>> Yeah it's also a right pain that On Digital (now renamed ITV Digital)
>> dedicates channels 8/17/18 to the Welsh & Scottish variations, which
>> leaves the English with a hole in the numbering that you can't get rid
>> of even by changing the numbers. And not having the 8 loses you a nice
>> single-digit input on the remote control.

> I personally hate S4C, I'd much rather have channel 4, the programming is
> much better and you don't have to put up with noson lawen. Believe me,
> they're so desperate for programs, I've been on one about 5 times!

Who or what is noson lawen? And yay for you!

Paul Hyett

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On Mon, 13 Aug 2001, CandiGrrl <Cand...@btinternet.com> stated this

considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -
>
>> >>>> Wasn't Stacy Galina well cast as Julie Graff? She was so like Monica.
>> >>>> If she returns, and Joey (or even more so Ross) should date her,
>> >>>> there could be all sorts of unsettling undercurrents...
>>
>> >>> Hmm, yes. It would be a little like Russ in a way.
>>
>> >> Oh yes, there would be Russ-like undercurrents if Chandler dated her -
>> >> but if Ross did, then something deeper & darker would lurk.

LOL!


>>
>> > Shudder.
>>
>> Exactly. Probably too heavy for "Friends".
>
>I would have thought so! The closest they've come is Monica dating Richard's
>son in TOW Chandler In A Box, and Danny and Krista in TOW The Inappropriate
>Sister.

Where were they from anyway - hillbilly country by any chance? :)

Tennant Stuart

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In article <77c0196c.0108...@posting.google.com>,
Cand...@btinternet.com (CandiGrrl) wrote:

> Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message

> news:<na.e486b54aa9...@argonet.co.uk>...

>> There's also Ross & Jill.

> I thought of that, but didn't include it because it wasn't as icky. It
> was just uncomfortable for Rachel.

Yeah, it's not like Jill attended to Rachel's crotch in Central Perk...


>>> She's called Krista, right? Did I get that right? Hope so.

>> Errr <checks> yes. :)

>> Of the three examples, only Danny & Krista were actually related though.

> Yeah. It is too heavy for them :)

Guess so.


>>>> Wait & see...

>>> <Phoebe voice> Oh, no. </strange non-Phoebe-sounding voice>

>> Lol, isn't the strange non-Phoebe-sounding voice a Monica voice?

> I really don't know what it was. It was scary.

Eeshk.


>>>> Yes, she could have lost some weight to help her heart, but not so
>>>> much that she ended up less happy. But this is a very tricky area,
>>>> and I'm so not adamant.

>>> I agree. Poor Mon :(

>> Wait & see...

> It's a catchphrase!

Hehe.


>>>>> Cue "wise face".

>>>> Cue happy grin <G> ooh, there it is.

>>> My friend Sonja put a photo of me doing that on her website. Also a
>>> picture that I made of a sort of bear thing.

>> Ooh, URL?

> It's linked from my website.

Yeah, but if you said it here I could just click on it & go.


>>>> And if you're wondering what "ROTFLQ" meant, it was a typo for "ROTFL!"

>>> Maybe you were laughing too hard! haha!

>> Hah, "Maybe" has nothing to do with it, I was.

> I now have a mental picture of Rachel doing that. She could borrow
> Monica's hooker boots, which were probably hers in the first place.

Ah yes, Rachel the skanky slut...


>> Now you can buy the American box set of 12 extended episodes.

> I will... one day. After I've completed my Julia Roberts/Courteney
> Cox/other stuff collections.

How far do you have to go?


>> I've always had the greatest respect for the intelligence of blondes.

>> Sorry to be boring, but I'm so not kidding.

> Well, that's good. When I had my hair brown before, people treated me
> differently. Then it went blonde again and they all started talking
> down. I also get blonde jokes... a lot.

You should hear what Kudrow says on the subject.


>>> Explain? Or hint?

>> Just keep thinking "MGB" for a couple of months.

> Isn't that a kind of car?!

Wait & see...


>>>> Gasp!

>>> It's true. Phoebe is... Satan.

>> That was the neighbour's dog. :)

> Probably Phoebe in a past life.

While little Phoebe was running around?


>>> I have no idea. I just always remember that.

>> You might, but I bet you that Monica never thinks of that - not since
>> the trauma of the suddenly burning dollhouse incident, anyway.

> Probably. Well, she might think of it - just not as often as the
> images of the flaming dollhouse cross her mind.

After "Psycho" was released, Alfred Hitchcock received an angry letter
from the father of a girl who refused to have a bath after seeing "Les
Diaboliques", and now refused to use the shower. Hitchcock sent a note
back simply saying "Send her to the dry cleaners".


>>>>> Monica probably has a phobia of locking her door. She's locked it
>>>>> twice, I think. First time, she got locked out. The second time, the
>>>>> key broke.

>>>> The key broke the third time. The second time, she had to stage a
>>>> lesbian sex show just to hang onto her own home.

>>> Did she lock it that time, or just put the chain on?

>> It's hard to be sure, since Chandler & Joey went to #19 first, to find
>> their furniture there, so they never tried to just walk into their own
>> apartment. Then they rushed across the hallway, and banged on the door
>> of #20, instead of trying to enter, then Monica opened the door on its
>> chain, but we don't know if she unlocked it first.

>> However, considering the situation, Monica must have locked the door.

> Not if it was on the chain. She wouldn't have needed to. Also, if she
> had just locked it, Joey and Chandler would have just been able to let
> themselves in. I'm pretty sure that if they were living there, they
> had a key.

Not if Monica left the key in the lock.

She & Rachel were very wary of how Chandler might react.

CandiGrrl

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Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> In article <77c0196c.0108...@posting.google.com>,
> Cand...@btinternet.com (CandiGrrl) wrote:
>
> > Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:<na.e486b54aa9...@argonet.co.uk>...
>
> >> There's also Ross & Jill.
>
> > I thought of that, but didn't include it because it wasn't as icky. It
> > was just uncomfortable for Rachel.
>
> Yeah, it's not like Jill attended to Rachel's crotch in Central Perk...

Thank God!

> >>> She's called Krista, right? Did I get that right? Hope so.
>
> >> Errr <checks> yes. :)
>
> >> Of the three examples, only Danny & Krista were actually related
though.
>
> > Yeah. It is too heavy for them :)
>
> Guess so.

I think that's a good thing. Don't know if I'd want to watch that!

> >>>> Wait & see...
>
> >>> <Phoebe voice> Oh, no. </strange non-Phoebe-sounding voice>
>
> >> Lol, isn't the strange non-Phoebe-sounding voice a Monica voice?
>
> > I really don't know what it was. It was scary.
>
> Eeshk.

I know.

> >>>> Yes, she could have lost some weight to help her heart, but not so
> >>>> much that she ended up less happy. But this is a very tricky area,
> >>>> and I'm so not adamant.
>
> >>> I agree. Poor Mon :(
>
> >> Wait & see...
>
> > It's a catchphrase!
>
> Hehe.

:)

> >>>>> Cue "wise face".
>
> >>>> Cue happy grin <G> ooh, there it is.
>
> >>> My friend Sonja put a photo of me doing that on her website. Also a
> >>> picture that I made of a sort of bear thing.
>
> >> Ooh, URL?
>
> > It's linked from my website.
>
> Yeah, but if you said it here I could just click on it & go.

Okay, I'll look it up.
http://missio_style_popcorn.tripod.com/littlebasketballplayer/

> >>>> And if you're wondering what "ROTFLQ" meant, it was a typo for
"ROTFL!"
>
> >>> Maybe you were laughing too hard! haha!
>
> >> Hah, "Maybe" has nothing to do with it, I was.
>
> > I now have a mental picture of Rachel doing that. She could borrow
> > Monica's hooker boots, which were probably hers in the first place.
>
> Ah yes, Rachel the skanky slut...

Not as skanky as me! The Spoiler Slut! (TM)

> >> Now you can buy the American box set of 12 extended episodes.
>
> > I will... one day. After I've completed my Julia Roberts/Courteney
> > Cox/other stuff collections.
>
> How far do you have to go?

On the Julia one, only about 5 videos!! It's taken me a while but I'm doing
very well. On the Courteney one... about 30. English video people delete
all of hers.

> >> I've always had the greatest respect for the intelligence of blondes.
>
> >> Sorry to be boring, but I'm so not kidding.
>
> > Well, that's good. When I had my hair brown before, people treated me
> > differently. Then it went blonde again and they all started talking
> > down. I also get blonde jokes... a lot.
>
> You should hear what Kudrow says on the subject.

I have heard. But she's only a DYED blonde. She only pretends to have more
fun.

> >>> Explain? Or hint?
>
> >> Just keep thinking "MGB" for a couple of months.
>
> > Isn't that a kind of car?!
>
> Wait & see...

I'm still thinking it.

> >>>> Gasp!
>
> >>> It's true. Phoebe is... Satan.
>
> >> That was the neighbour's dog. :)
>
> > Probably Phoebe in a past life.
>
> While little Phoebe was running around?

Yeah. It would be confusing for her, but she could manage it.

> >>> I have no idea. I just always remember that.
>
> >> You might, but I bet you that Monica never thinks of that - not since
> >> the trauma of the suddenly burning dollhouse incident, anyway.
>
> > Probably. Well, she might think of it - just not as often as the
> > images of the flaming dollhouse cross her mind.
>
> After "Psycho" was released, Alfred Hitchcock received an angry letter
> from the father of a girl who refused to have a bath after seeing "Les
> Diaboliques", and now refused to use the shower. Hitchcock sent a note
> back simply saying "Send her to the dry cleaners".

Which reminds me. Never put your cat in the washing machine.

> >>>>> Monica probably has a phobia of locking her door. She's locked it
> >>>>> twice, I think. First time, she got locked out. The second time, the
> >>>>> key broke.
>
> >>>> The key broke the third time. The second time, she had to stage a
> >>>> lesbian sex show just to hang onto her own home.
>
> >>> Did she lock it that time, or just put the chain on?
>
> >> It's hard to be sure, since Chandler & Joey went to #19 first, to find
> >> their furniture there, so they never tried to just walk into their own
> >> apartment. Then they rushed across the hallway, and banged on the door
> >> of #20, instead of trying to enter, then Monica opened the door on its
> >> chain, but we don't know if she unlocked it first.
>
> >> However, considering the situation, Monica must have locked the door.
>
> > Not if it was on the chain. She wouldn't have needed to. Also, if she
> > had just locked it, Joey and Chandler would have just been able to let
> > themselves in. I'm pretty sure that if they were living there, they
> > had a key.
>
> Not if Monica left the key in the lock.
>
> She & Rachel were very wary of how Chandler might react.

I guess.

Tennant Stuart

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In article <9ldpob$i89$1...@plutonium.btinternet.com>, "CandiGrrl"
<Cand...@btinternet.com> wrote:

> Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message

> news:na.9a17934aaa...@argonet.co.uk...

>>>>>>> Cue "wise face".

>>>>>> Cue happy grin <G> ooh, there it is.

>>>>> My friend Sonja put a photo of me doing that on her website. Also a
>>>>> picture that I made of a sort of bear thing.

>>>> Ooh, URL?

>>> It's linked from my website.

>> Yeah, but if you said it here I could just click on it & go.

Thanks, sweetie.


>>> I now have a mental picture of Rachel doing that. She could borrow
>>> Monica's hooker boots, which were probably hers in the first place.

>> Ah yes, Rachel the skanky slut...

> Not as skanky as me! The Spoiler Slut! (TM)

Well yes, I was thinking about you the whole time...

>>>> Now you can buy the American box set of 12 extended episodes.

>>> I will... one day. After I've completed my Julia Roberts/Courteney
>>> Cox/other stuff collections.

>> How far do you have to go?

> On the Julia one, only about 5 videos!! It's taken me a while but I'm
> doing very well. On the Courteney one... about 30. English video people
> delete all of hers.

How can that be? Courteney has made only 25 movies...

Code Name: Foxfire (1985)
Misfits of Science (1985)
Down Twisted (1987)
If It's Tuesday, It Still Must Be Belgium (1987)
Masters of the Universe (1987)
Cocoon: The Return (1988)
I'll Be Home for Christmas (1988)
Roxanne: The Prize Pulitzer (1989)
Till We Meet Again (1989)
Curiosity Kills (1990)
Mr. Destiny (1990)
Shaking the Tree (1990)
Blue Desert (1991)
Battling for Baby (1992)
The Opposite Sex and How to Live with Them (1992)
Ace Ventura: Pet Detective (1994)
Sketch Artist II: Hands That See (1995)
Scream (1996)
Commandments (1997)
Scream 2 (1997)
The Runner (1999)
Scream 3 (2000)
The Shrink Is In (2000)
3000 Miles to Graceland (2001)
Alien Love Triangle (2001)


>>>> I've always had the greatest respect for the intelligence of blondes.

>>>> Sorry to be boring, but I'm so not kidding.

>>> Well, that's good. When I had my hair brown before, people treated me
>>> differently. Then it went blonde again and they all started talking
>>> down. I also get blonde jokes... a lot.

>> You should hear what Kudrow says on the subject.

> I have heard. But she's only a DYED blonde.

Yes, I know sweetheart, that's the whole point, she CHOSE to be blonde.


> She only pretends to have more fun.

What I was going to tell you was not "blondes have more fun".


>>>>> Explain? Or hint?

>>>> Just keep thinking "MGB" for a couple of months.

>>> Isn't that a kind of car?!

>> Wait & see...

> I'm still thinking it.

Good girl, have a choccy...


>>>>>> Gasp!

>>>>> It's true. Phoebe is... Satan.

>>>> That was the neighbour's dog. :)

>>> Probably Phoebe in a past life.

>> While little Phoebe was running around?

> Yeah. It would be confusing for her, but she could manage it.

Perhaps Ursula is Phoebe in a past life.


>>>>> I have no idea. I just always remember that.

>>>> You might, but I bet you that Monica never thinks of that - not since
>>>> the trauma of the suddenly burning dollhouse incident, anyway.

>>> Probably. Well, she might think of it - just not as often as the
>>> images of the flaming dollhouse cross her mind.

>> After "Psycho" was released, Alfred Hitchcock received an angry letter
>> from the father of a girl who refused to have a bath after seeing "Les
>> Diaboliques", and now refused to use the shower. Hitchcock sent a note
>> back simply saying "Send her to the dry cleaners".

> Which reminds me. Never put your cat in the washing machine.

OMG - what happened?

CandiGrrl

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Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message news:<na.18a0ae4aaa...@argonet.co.uk>...

> In article <9ldpob$i89$1...@plutonium.btinternet.com>, "CandiGrrl"
> <Cand...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
> > Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:na.9a17934aaa...@argonet.co.uk...
>
> >>>>>>> Cue "wise face".
>
> >>>>>> Cue happy grin <G> ooh, there it is.
>
> >>>>> My friend Sonja put a photo of me doing that on her website. Also a
> >>>>> picture that I made of a sort of bear thing.
>
> >>>> Ooh, URL?
>
> >>> It's linked from my website.
>
> >> Yeah, but if you said it here I could just click on it & go.
>
> > Okay, I'll look it up.
> > http://missio_style_popcorn.tripod.com/littlebasketballplayer/
>
> Thanks, sweetie.

No problem. Click on the "For My BoBo" link. I'm her BoBo.

> >>> I now have a mental picture of Rachel doing that. She could borrow
> >>> Monica's hooker boots, which were probably hers in the first place.
>
> >> Ah yes, Rachel the skanky slut...
>
> > Not as skanky as me! The Spoiler Slut! (TM)
>
> Well yes, I was thinking about you the whole time...

Heehee.

Well, it feels like 30.

> >>>> I've always had the greatest respect for the intelligence of blondes.
>
> >>>> Sorry to be boring, but I'm so not kidding.
>
> >>> Well, that's good. When I had my hair brown before, people treated me
> >>> differently. Then it went blonde again and they all started talking
> >>> down. I also get blonde jokes... a lot.
>
> >> You should hear what Kudrow says on the subject.
>
> > I have heard. But she's only a DYED blonde.
>
> Yes, I know sweetheart, that's the whole point, she CHOSE to be blonde.

I did too. Before this I was brunette, and before that redhead, and
before that... I can't even remember. But underneath it all, it's
naturally blonde.

> > She only pretends to have more fun.
>
> What I was going to tell you was not "blondes have more fun".

They do.

> >>>>> Explain? Or hint?
>
> >>>> Just keep thinking "MGB" for a couple of months.
>
> >>> Isn't that a kind of car?!
>
> >> Wait & see...
>
> > I'm still thinking it.
>
> Good girl, have a choccy...

Woof!

> >>>>>> Gasp!
>
> >>>>> It's true. Phoebe is... Satan.
>
> >>>> That was the neighbour's dog. :)
>
> >>> Probably Phoebe in a past life.
>
> >> While little Phoebe was running around?
>
> > Yeah. It would be confusing for her, but she could manage it.
>
> Perhaps Ursula is Phoebe in a past life.

Could be...

> >>>>> I have no idea. I just always remember that.
>
> >>>> You might, but I bet you that Monica never thinks of that - not since
> >>>> the trauma of the suddenly burning dollhouse incident, anyway.
>
> >>> Probably. Well, she might think of it - just not as often as the
> >>> images of the flaming dollhouse cross her mind.
>
> >> After "Psycho" was released, Alfred Hitchcock received an angry letter
> >> from the father of a girl who refused to have a bath after seeing "Les
> >> Diaboliques", and now refused to use the shower. Hitchcock sent a note
> >> back simply saying "Send her to the dry cleaners".
>
> > Which reminds me. Never put your cat in the washing machine.
>
> OMG - what happened?

I didn't. I'm just pretty sure it's not good for the cat.

Paul Hyett

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On Thu, 16 Aug 2001, Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> stated this

considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -
>
>How can that be? Courteney has made only 25 movies...
>
>Till We Meet Again (1989)

That's not a movie, it's a mini-series.

Tennant Stuart

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In article <77c0196c.01081...@posting.google.com>,
Cand...@btinternet.com (CandiGrrl) wrote:

> Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message

> news:<na.18a0ae4aaa...@argonet.co.uk>...

>>>>>>>>> Cue "wise face".

>>>>>>>> Cue happy grin <G> ooh, there it is.

>>>>>>> My friend Sonja put a photo of me doing that on her website. Alsoa
>>>>>>> picture that I made of a sort of bear thing.

>>>>>> Ooh, URL?

>>>>> It's linked from my website.

>>>> Yeah, but if you said it here I could just click on it & go.

>> Thanks, sweetie.

> No problem. Click on the "For My BoBo" link. I'm her BoBo.

Oh, that explains why I couldn't find you.


>>>> How far do you have to go?

>>> On the Courteney one... about 30.

Hahahahahahahah!

So which don't you have?


>>>>>> I've always had the greatest respect for the intelligence of
> blondes.

>>>>>> Sorry to be boring, but I'm so not kidding.

>>>>> Well, that's good. When I had my hair brown before, people treated
>>>>> me differently. Then it went blonde again and they all started
>>>>> talking down. I also get blonde jokes... a lot.

>>>> You should hear what Kudrow says on the subject.

>>> I have heard. But she's only a DYED blonde.

>> Yes, I know sweetheart, that's the whole point, she CHOSE to be blonde.

> I did too. Before this I was brunette, and before that redhead, and
> before that... I can't even remember. But underneath it all, it's
> naturally blonde.

That's not the same as a dark-haired girl choosing to be blonde.


>>> She only pretends to have more fun.

>> What I was going to tell you was not "blondes have more fun".

> They do.

I'm not denying that, but I was going to quote something different.


>>>>>>> Explain? Or hint?

>>>>>> Just keep thinking "MGB" for a couple of months.

>>>>> Isn't that a kind of car?!

>>>> Wait & see...

>>> I'm still thinking it.

>> Good girl, have a choccy...

> Woof!

<pats Mari on the head>


>>>>>>>> Gasp!

>>>>>>> It's true. Phoebe is... Satan.

>>>>>> That was the neighbour's dog. :)

>>>>> Probably Phoebe in a past life.

>>>> While little Phoebe was running around?

>>> Yeah. It would be confusing for her, but she could manage it.

>> Perhaps Ursula is Phoebe in a past life.

> Could be...

It explains a great deal...


>>> Which reminds me. Never put your cat in the washing machine.

>> OMG - what happened?

> I didn't. I'm just pretty sure it's not good for the cat.

Phew!!

Tennant Stuart

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In article <j+$CJqBp4...@activist.demon.co.uk>, Paul Hyett
<pah...@activist.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> On Thu, 16 Aug 2001, Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> stated this
> considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -

>> How can that be? Courteney has made only 25 movies...

>> Till We Meet Again (1989)

> That's not a movie, it's a mini-series.

Not according to the IMDb.

It's a 4 hour movie, made for television.

Mardi

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"CandiGrrl" <Cand...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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> Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:<na.18a0ae4aaa...@argonet.co.uk>...
> > In article <9ldpob$i89$1...@plutonium.btinternet.com>, "CandiGrrl"
> > <Cand...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message
> > > news:na.9a17934aaa...@argonet.co.uk...
> >
> > >>>>> My friend Sonja put a photo of me doing that on her website. Also
a
> > >>>>> picture that I made of a sort of bear thing.
> >
> > >>>> Ooh, URL?
> >
> > >>> It's linked from my website.
> >
> > >> Yeah, but if you said it here I could just click on it & go.
> >
> > > Okay, I'll look it up.
> > > http://missio_style_popcorn.tripod.com/littlebasketballplayer/
> >
> > Thanks, sweetie.
>
> No problem. Click on the "For My BoBo" link. I'm her BoBo.

Mari, how can you be friends with someone who *hates* cats?!?!?! You simply
MUST put a pic of her on *your* page and fill it with pro-cat propogranda as
an antidote!

Mardi

Mardi

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"Mardi" <krt...@NOSPAM.com> wrote in message
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That should, of course, be "propaganda." I can't believe OE's lousy
spellcheck allowed "propogranda" to get through. Maybe it's a new Microsoft
word (not to be confused with MS-Word {tm}, of course).

Mardi


CandiGrrl

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Mardi <krt...@NOSPAM.com> wrote in message
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>

Oh, we don't really hate cats. I have that picture on my page for her too
(My Pokey!).
It's a very long story, we think that they're taking over the world and the
cuteness
is just an evil plot... well, it's very strange. Anti-Cats Forever!


CandiGrrl

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Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> In article <j+$CJqBp4...@activist.demon.co.uk>, Paul Hyett
> <pah...@activist.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 16 Aug 2001, Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> stated this
> > considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -
>
> >> How can that be? Courteney has made only 25 movies...
>
> >> Till We Meet Again (1989)
>
> > That's not a movie, it's a mini-series.
>
> Not according to the IMDb.
>
> It's a 4 hour movie, made for television.
>
It's in three bits. I had to watch it this week because my gran wanted to
see it.
I kept laughing though and she got offended because she thought it was
lovely.


CandiGrrl

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Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> In article <77c0196c.01081...@posting.google.com>,
> Cand...@btinternet.com (CandiGrrl) wrote:
>
> > Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:<na.18a0ae4aaa...@argonet.co.uk>...
>
> >>>>>>>>> Cue "wise face".
>
> >>>>>>>> Cue happy grin <G> ooh, there it is.
>
> >>>>>>> My friend Sonja put a photo of me doing that on her website. Alsoa
> >>>>>>> picture that I made of a sort of bear thing.
>
> >>>>>> Ooh, URL?
>
> >>>>> It's linked from my website.
>
> >>>> Yeah, but if you said it here I could just click on it & go.
>
> >>> Okay, I'll look it up.
> >>> http://missio_style_popcorn.tripod.com/littlebasketballplayer/
>
> >> Thanks, sweetie.
>
> > No problem. Click on the "For My BoBo" link. I'm her BoBo.
>
> Oh, that explains why I couldn't find you.

Did you find me yet? I think I'm in the Pictures Of People bit too, but
it's just the picture you've seen.

It's faster to tell you which I *do* have. I have all the 'Screams', 'Till
We
Meet Again', 'Blue Desert' - which is called 'Silent Victim' here - ,
'Commandments', 'Masters Of The Universe', 'Cocoon 2', 'Ace Ventura'...
and that's it. :(

> >>>>>> I've always had the greatest respect for the intelligence of
> > blondes.
>
> >>>>>> Sorry to be boring, but I'm so not kidding.
>
> >>>>> Well, that's good. When I had my hair brown before, people treated
> >>>>> me differently. Then it went blonde again and they all started
> >>>>> talking down. I also get blonde jokes... a lot.
>
> >>>> You should hear what Kudrow says on the subject.
>
> >>> I have heard. But she's only a DYED blonde.
>
> >> Yes, I know sweetheart, that's the whole point, she CHOSE to be blonde.
>
> > I did too. Before this I was brunette, and before that redhead, and
> > before that... I can't even remember. But underneath it all, it's
> > naturally blonde.
>
> That's not the same as a dark-haired girl choosing to be blonde.

Sarah Michelle Gellar is a natural brunette. And Lucy Lawless is
a natural blonde.

> >>> She only pretends to have more fun.
>
> >> What I was going to tell you was not "blondes have more fun".
>
> > They do.
>
> I'm not denying that, but I was going to quote something different.

Is it a blonde joke?

> >>>>>>> Explain? Or hint?
>
> >>>>>> Just keep thinking "MGB" for a couple of months.
>
> >>>>> Isn't that a kind of car?!
>
> >>>> Wait & see...
>
> >>> I'm still thinking it.
>
> >> Good girl, have a choccy...
>
> > Woof!
>
> <pats Mari on the head>

I don't know what it is! But then I haven't been concentrating.

> >>>>>>>> Gasp!
>
> >>>>>>> It's true. Phoebe is... Satan.
>
> >>>>>> That was the neighbour's dog. :)
>
> >>>>> Probably Phoebe in a past life.
>
> >>>> While little Phoebe was running around?
>
> >>> Yeah. It would be confusing for her, but she could manage it.
>
> >> Perhaps Ursula is Phoebe in a past life.
>
> > Could be...
>
> It explains a great deal...

Yep.

> >>> Which reminds me. Never put your cat in the washing machine.
>
> >> OMG - what happened?
>
> > I didn't. I'm just pretty sure it's not good for the cat.
>
> Phew!!

I once read about these little kids that did it though. They read a joke on
the back of a crisp packet that said "What's white, fluffy and goes round
and round? A cat in a washing machine!" and so they put their cat in the
washing machine to see. And then it died.

Mardi

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"CandiGrrl" <Cand...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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> Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:na.42387b4aab...@argonet.co.uk...
> > In article <77c0196c.01081...@posting.google.com>,
> > Cand...@btinternet.com (CandiGrrl) wrote:
> >
> > > Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message
> > > news:<na.18a0ae4aaa...@argonet.co.uk>...
> >
> > > No problem. Click on the "For My BoBo" link. I'm her BoBo.
> >
> > Oh, that explains why I couldn't find you.
>
> Did you find me yet? I think I'm in the Pictures Of People bit too, but
> it's just the picture you've seen.

I know that you were addressing Tennant, but I had a look at the "BoBo"
picture, and thought you looked a bit like LK (with her real, offstage
hairdo)--that's a compliment. ;)

> Sarah Michelle Gellar is a natural brunette. And Lucy Lawless is
> a natural blonde.

I knew about SMG, but not Lucy Lawless. I've never seen her blonde. Do you
think it suited her more? I read an article (I think it was in _Allure_
magazine), where SMG said she preferred being brunette, and had gradually
darkened her hair since the first season of _Buffy_.

I have no idea about LL's personal preferences.

I've never been blonde, though years ago a co-worker photocopied a picture
of me and redid me with big platinum hair (using wite-out), and titled it my
"Blonde Ambition Tour" (yes, this coincided with Madonna's tour by that
name!). I'm a brunette who has colored her hair black and numerous shades
of brown and red, but never blonde (except a streak back in 1990). :)

> I once read about these little kids that did it though. They read a joke
on
> the back of a crisp packet that said "What's white, fluffy and goes round
> and round? A cat in a washing machine!" and so they put their cat in the
> washing machine to see. And then it died.

Oh, God! I hate stories like this. :(

Mardi


Mardi

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>
> Mardi <krt...@NOSPAM.com> wrote in message
> news:H10f7.317456$T97.35...@typhoon.nyroc.rr.com...

> > Mari, how can you be friends with someone who *hates* cats?!?!?! You


> simply
> > MUST put a pic of her on *your* page and fill it with pro-cat
propogranda
> as
> > an antidote!
>
> Oh, we don't really hate cats. I have that picture on my page for her too
> (My Pokey!).
> It's a very long story, we think that they're taking over the world and
the
> cuteness
> is just an evil plot... well, it's very strange. Anti-Cats Forever!

Oh, I get it! My husband and I have our intricate cat stories, too.
Whenever we see a cat when we're out on our neighborhood walks, we *know*
it's a spy hired by *our* cat to keep tabs on us (because he runs a
multi-national corporation when we're not home). ;)

Mardi


Tennant Stuart

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In article <bG8f7.293442$EF2.36...@typhoon.nyroc.rr.com>, "Mardi"
<krt...@NOSPAM.com> wrote:

> That should, of course, be "propaganda." I can't believe OE's lousy
> spellcheck allowed "propogranda" to get through.

What else is wrong with Outlook Express?

Tennant Stuart

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In article <9lj7d9$c36$1...@neptunium.btinternet.com>, "CandiGrrl"
<Cand...@btinternet.com> wrote:

ITV showed John Frankenheimer's epic motor-racing movie "Grand Prix"
in three parts, but that still doesn't make it a mini-series.

Tennant Stuart

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Aug 17, 2001, 7:41:14 PM8/17/01
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In article <9lj7kk$ccg$1...@neptunium.btinternet.com>, "CandiGrrl"
<Cand...@btinternet.com> wrote:

> Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message

> news:na.42387b4aab...@argonet.co.uk...

>>>>>>>>>>> Cue "wise face".

>>> Click on the "For My BoBo" link. I'm her BoBo.

>> Oh, that explains why I couldn't find you.

> Did you find me yet? I think I'm in the Pictures Of People bit too, but
> it's just the picture you've seen.

There are three pictures of Bobo, but two of them look remarkably
like Julia Roberts, and the third is one of your fuzzy snapshots.


>>>>>> How far do you have to go?

>>>>> On the Courteney one... about 30.

>>>> How can that be? Courteney has made only 25 movies...

>>> Well, it feels like 30.

>> Hahahahahahahah!

>> So which don't you have?

> It's faster to tell you which I *do* have. <SNIP>

In that case, you don't have these 16...

>>>> Code Name: Foxfire (1985)
>>>> Misfits of Science (1985)
>>>> Down Twisted (1987)
>>>> If It's Tuesday, It Still Must Be Belgium (1987)

>>>> I'll Be Home for Christmas (1988)
>>>> Roxanne: The Prize Pulitzer (1989)

>>>> Curiosity Kills (1990)
>>>> Mr. Destiny (1990)
>>>> Shaking the Tree (1990)

>>>> Battling for Baby (1992)
>>>> The Opposite Sex and How to Live with Them (1992)

>>>> Sketch Artist II: Hands That See (1995)

>>>> The Runner (1999)


>>>> The Shrink Is In (2000)
>>>> 3000 Miles to Graceland (2001)
>>>> Alien Love Triangle (2001)

>>>> What I was going to tell you was not "blondes have more fun".

>>> They do.

>> I'm not denying that, but I was going to quote something different.

> Is it a blonde joke?

Of *course* not! I'm slightly offended you'd even suggest that. n/k


>>>>>>>>> Explain? Or hint?

>>>>>>>> Just keep thinking "MGB" for a couple of months.

>>>>>>> Isn't that a kind of car?!

>>>>>> Wait & see...

>>>>> I'm still thinking it.

>>>> Good girl, have a choccy...

>>> Woof!

>> <pats Mari on the head>

> I don't know what it is! But then I haven't been concentrating.

Just wait & see, and then you'll know, okay? :)


>>>>> Which reminds me. Never put your cat in the washing machine.

>>>> OMG - what happened?

>>> I didn't. I'm just pretty sure it's not good for the cat.

>> Phew!!

> I once read about these little kids that did it though. They read a joke
> on the back of a crisp packet that said "What's white, fluffy and goes
> round and round? A cat in a washing machine!" and so they put their cat
> in the washing machine to see. And then it died.

Kids as stupid as that tend to come to a sticky end when they're older.

CandiGrrl

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Mardi <krt...@NOSPAM.com> wrote in message
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>
> "CandiGrrl" <Cand...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> news:9lj7kk$ccg$1...@neptunium.btinternet.com...
> > Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:na.42387b4aab...@argonet.co.uk...
> > > In article <77c0196c.01081...@posting.google.com>,
> > > Cand...@btinternet.com (CandiGrrl) wrote:
> > >
> > > > Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message
> > > > news:<na.18a0ae4aaa...@argonet.co.uk>...
> > >
> > > > No problem. Click on the "For My BoBo" link. I'm her BoBo.
> > >
> > > Oh, that explains why I couldn't find you.
> >
> > Did you find me yet? I think I'm in the Pictures Of People bit too, but
> > it's just the picture you've seen.
>
> I know that you were addressing Tennant, but I had a look at the "BoBo"
> picture, and thought you looked a bit like LK (with her real, offstage
> hairdo)--that's a compliment. ;)

Thanks. I've been told I look like Madonna. I don't. But now everyone
teases me about it! I don't look like Madonna!!

> > Sarah Michelle Gellar is a natural brunette. And Lucy Lawless is
> > a natural blonde.
>
> I knew about SMG, but not Lucy Lawless. I've never seen her blonde. Do
you
> think it suited her more? I read an article (I think it was in _Allure_
> magazine), where SMG said she preferred being brunette, and had gradually
> darkened her hair since the first season of _Buffy_.

SMG looks better brunette IMO.

> I have no idea about LL's personal preferences.
>
> I've never been blonde, though years ago a co-worker photocopied a picture
> of me and redid me with big platinum hair (using wite-out), and titled it
my
> "Blonde Ambition Tour" (yes, this coincided with Madonna's tour by that
> name!). I'm a brunette who has colored her hair black and numerous shades
> of brown and red, but never blonde (except a streak back in 1990). :)

I want to dye mine dark brown. I'm sick of blonde, and blonde jokes :)

> > I once read about these little kids that did it though. They read a joke
> on
> > the back of a crisp packet that said "What's white, fluffy and goes
round
> > and round? A cat in a washing machine!" and so they put their cat in the
> > washing machine to see. And then it died.
>
> Oh, God! I hate stories like this. :(

Sorry!


CandiGrrl

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Aug 18, 2001, 8:07:56 AM8/18/01
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Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> In article <9lj7kk$ccg$1...@neptunium.btinternet.com>, "CandiGrrl"
> <Cand...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
> > Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:na.42387b4aab...@argonet.co.uk...
>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Cue "wise face".
>
> >>> Click on the "For My BoBo" link. I'm her BoBo.
>
> >> Oh, that explains why I couldn't find you.
>
> > Did you find me yet? I think I'm in the Pictures Of People bit too, but
> > it's just the picture you've seen.
>
> There are three pictures of Bobo, but two of them look remarkably
> like Julia Roberts, and the third is one of your fuzzy snapshots.

The fuzzy one is my proud face and my proud face looks quite like my
wise face.

> >>>>>> How far do you have to go?
>
> >>>>> On the Courteney one... about 30.
>
> >>>> How can that be? Courteney has made only 25 movies...
>
> >>> Well, it feels like 30.
>
> >> Hahahahahahahah!
>
> >> So which don't you have?
>
> > It's faster to tell you which I *do* have. <SNIP>
>
> In that case, you don't have these 16...
>
> >>>> Code Name: Foxfire (1985)
> >>>> Misfits of Science (1985)
> >>>> Down Twisted (1987)
> >>>> If It's Tuesday, It Still Must Be Belgium (1987)
> >>>> I'll Be Home for Christmas (1988)
> >>>> Roxanne: The Prize Pulitzer (1989)
> >>>> Curiosity Kills (1990)
> >>>> Mr. Destiny (1990)
> >>>> Shaking the Tree (1990)
> >>>> Battling for Baby (1992)
> >>>> The Opposite Sex and How to Live with Them (1992)
> >>>> Sketch Artist II: Hands That See (1995)
> >>>> The Runner (1999)
> >>>> The Shrink Is In (2000)
> >>>> 3000 Miles to Graceland (2001)
> >>>> Alien Love Triangle (2001)

Correct. I really want 'If It's Tuesday, It Still Must Be Belgium' but
I don't think it's on sale even in the US! If anyone has a copy they
want to give me/sell me, please do so! hehe

> >>>> What I was going to tell you was not "blondes have more fun".
>
> >>> They do.
>
> >> I'm not denying that, but I was going to quote something different.
>
> > Is it a blonde joke?
>
> Of *course* not! I'm slightly offended you'd even suggest that. n/k

Sorry. I'm wary.

> >>>>>>>>> Explain? Or hint?
>
> >>>>>>>> Just keep thinking "MGB" for a couple of months.
>
> >>>>>>> Isn't that a kind of car?!
>
> >>>>>> Wait & see...
>
> >>>>> I'm still thinking it.
>
> >>>> Good girl, have a choccy...
>
> >>> Woof!
>
> >> <pats Mari on the head>
>
> > I don't know what it is! But then I haven't been concentrating.
>
> Just wait & see, and then you'll know, okay? :)

This is no fun!

> >>>>> Which reminds me. Never put your cat in the washing machine.
>
> >>>> OMG - what happened?
>
> >>> I didn't. I'm just pretty sure it's not good for the cat.
>
> >> Phew!!
>
> > I once read about these little kids that did it though. They read a joke
> > on the back of a crisp packet that said "What's white, fluffy and goes
> > round and round? A cat in a washing machine!" and so they put their cat
> > in the washing machine to see. And then it died.
>
> Kids as stupid as that tend to come to a sticky end when they're older.

Probably.

Mardi

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"Tennant Stuart" <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> In article <bG8f7.293442$EF2.36...@typhoon.nyroc.rr.com>, "Mardi"
> <krt...@NOSPAM.com> wrote:
>
> > That should, of course, be "propaganda." I can't believe OE's lousy
> > spellcheck allowed "propogranda" to get through.
>
> What else is wrong with Outlook Express?

I'm sure I'll find out. ;)

Mardi


Mardi

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"CandiGrrl" <Cand...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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> Mardi <krt...@NOSPAM.com> wrote in message
> news:04cf7.319541$T97.36...@typhoon.nyroc.rr.com...
> >
> > "CandiGrrl" <Cand...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> > news:9lj7kk$ccg$1...@neptunium.btinternet.com...
> > > Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message
> > > news:na.42387b4aab...@argonet.co.uk...
> > > > In article <77c0196c.01081...@posting.google.com>,
> > > > Cand...@btinternet.com (CandiGrrl) wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message
> > > > > news:<na.18a0ae4aaa...@argonet.co.uk>...
> > > >
>
> Thanks. I've been told I look like Madonna. I don't. But now everyone
> teases me about it! I don't look like Madonna!!

Well, next time someone tells you that, you can say, "Actually, I've been
told I look like Lisa Kudrow."

> > I knew about SMG, but not Lucy Lawless. I've never seen her blonde. Do
> you
> > think it suited her more? I read an article (I think it was in _Allure_
> > magazine), where SMG said she preferred being brunette, and had
gradually
> > darkened her hair since the first season of _Buffy_.
>
> SMG looks better brunette IMO.

I agree.

> > I have no idea about LL's personal preferences.
> >
> > I've never been blonde, though years ago a co-worker photocopied a
picture
> > of me and redid me with big platinum hair (using wite-out), and titled
it
> my
> > "Blonde Ambition Tour" (yes, this coincided with Madonna's tour by that
> > name!). I'm a brunette who has colored her hair black and numerous
shades
> > of brown and red, but never blonde (except a streak back in 1990). :)
>
> I want to dye mine dark brown. I'm sick of blonde, and blonde jokes :)

I can imagine they could get you down. It's amazing the characteristics
people assume go with hair color.

> > > I once read about these little kids that did it though. They read a
joke
> > on
> > > the back of a crisp packet that said "What's white, fluffy and goes
> round
> > > and round? A cat in a washing machine!" and so they put their cat in
the
> > > washing machine to see. And then it died.
> >
> > Oh, God! I hate stories like this. :(
>
> Sorry!

Oh, I just want to protect all the kitties!

Mardi


Tennant Stuart

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Aug 18, 2001, 7:36:16 PM8/18/01
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In article <9lllgb$req$1...@neptunium.btinternet.com>, "CandiGrrl"
<Cand...@btinternet.com> wrote:

> Mardi <krt...@NOSPAM.com> wrote in message
> news:04cf7.319541$T97.36...@typhoon.nyroc.rr.com...

>> I knew about SMG, but not Lucy Lawless. I've never seen her blonde.
>> Doyou think it suited her more? I read an article (I think it was in


>> _Allure_ magazine), where SMG said she preferred being brunette, and
>> had gradually darkened her hair since the first season of _Buffy_.

> SMG looks better brunette IMO.

Have either of you guys seen the episode of "Mad About You" where
Jamie went brunette? It so suited her, and I was so disappointed
that her new look didn't last.

Tennant Stuart

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Aug 18, 2001, 7:34:46 PM8/18/01
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In article <5qtf7.300774$EF2.37...@typhoon.nyroc.rr.com>, "Mardi"
<krt...@NOSPAM.com> wrote:

> "Tennant Stuart" <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:na.91beca4aab...@argonet.co.uk...

>>> That should, of course, be "propaganda." I can't believe OE's lousy


>>> spellcheck allowed "propogranda" to get through.

>> What else is wrong with Outlook Express?

> I'm sure I'll find out. ;)

Has it ever posted an intimate email to a newsgroup?

Tennant Stuart

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Aug 18, 2001, 7:37:35 PM8/18/01
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In article <9lllj8$a97$1...@uranium.btinternet.com>, "CandiGrrl"
<Cand...@btinternet.com> wrote:

> Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message

> news:na.84c02d4aab...@argonet.co.uk...

>> There are three pictures of Bobo, but two of them look remarkably
>> like Julia Roberts, and the third is one of your fuzzy snapshots.

> The fuzzy one is my proud face and my proud face looks quite like my
> wise face.

Ah. What you need are more clear photos.


>> You don't have these 16...

> Code Name: Foxfire (1985)
> Misfits of Science (1985)
> Down Twisted (1987)
> If It's Tuesday, It Still Must Be Belgium (1987)
> I'll Be Home for Christmas (1988)
> Roxanne: The Prize Pulitzer (1989)
> Curiosity Kills (1990)
> Mr. Destiny (1990)
> Shaking the Tree (1990)
> Battling for Baby (1992)
> The Opposite Sex and How to Live with Them (1992)
> Sketch Artist II: Hands That See (1995)
> The Runner (1999)
> The Shrink Is In (2000)
> 3000 Miles to Graceland (2001)
> Alien Love Triangle (2001)

> Correct. I really want 'If It's Tuesday, It Still Must Be Belgium' but
> I don't think it's on sale even in the US! If anyone has a copy they
> want to give me/sell me, please do so! hehe

What about the other 15?


>>>> I'm not denying that, but I was going to quote something different.

>>> Is it a blonde joke?

>> Of *course* not! I'm slightly offended you'd even suggest that. n/k

> Sorry. I'm wary.

You should trust me more.


>>>>>>>>>>> Explain? Or hint?

>>>>>>>>>> Just keep thinking "MGB" for a couple of months.

>>>>>>>>> Isn't that a kind of car?!

>>>>>>>> Wait & see...

>>>>>>> I'm still thinking it.

>>>>>> Good girl, have a choccy...

>>>>> Woof!

>>>> <pats Mari on the head>

>>> I don't know what it is! But then I haven't been concentrating.

>> Just wait & see, and then you'll know, okay? :)

> This is no fun!

All will be revealed.

Mardi

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"Tennant Stuart" <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:na.543f4e4aac...@argonet.co.uk...

> In article <5qtf7.300774$EF2.37...@typhoon.nyroc.rr.com>, "Mardi"
> <krt...@NOSPAM.com> wrote:
>
> > "Tennant Stuart" <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:na.91beca4aab...@argonet.co.uk...
>
> >>> That should, of course, be "propaganda." I can't believe OE's lousy
> >>> spellcheck allowed "propogranda" to get through.
>
> >> What else is wrong with Outlook Express?
>
> > I'm sure I'll find out. ;)
>
> Has it ever posted an intimate email to a newsgroup?

Nope, never. :)

I've actually had no other problems with it.

Mardi


Mardi

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"Tennant Stuart" <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> In article <9lllgb$req$1...@neptunium.btinternet.com>, "CandiGrrl"
> <Cand...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
> > Mardi <krt...@NOSPAM.com> wrote in message
> > news:04cf7.319541$T97.36...@typhoon.nyroc.rr.com...
>
> >> I knew about SMG, but not Lucy Lawless. I've never seen her blonde.
> >> Doyou think it suited her more? I read an article (I think it was in
> >> _Allure_ magazine), where SMG said she preferred being brunette, and
> >> had gradually darkened her hair since the first season of _Buffy_.
>
> > SMG looks better brunette IMO.
>
> Have either of you guys seen the episode of "Mad About You" where
> Jamie went brunette? It so suited her, and I was so disappointed
> that her new look didn't last.

Yes, and I agree with you--I thought she looked great brunette. Bad Ned
(Hank Azaria) for being all mopey about the change. :)

Mardi


Paul Hyett

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On Sun, 19 Aug 2001, Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> stated this

considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -
>
>Have either of you guys seen the episode of "Mad About You" where
>Jamie went brunette? It so suited her, and I was so disappointed
>that her new look didn't last.

What is HH's natural hair colour?

Paul Hyett

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On Sat, 18 Aug 2001, CandiGrrl <Cand...@btinternet.com> stated this

considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -

> I really want 'If It's Tuesday, It Still Must Be Belgium' but


>I don't think it's on sale even in the US! If anyone has a copy they
>want to give me/sell me, please do so! hehe

I *did* have a (poor quality) copy of that, but then I saw it listed
again so I thought I could retape it over the poor version.

Unfortunately it turned out to be a previous version of the movie, so
I'd killed my only copy. :(

CandiGrrl

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Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message news:<na.8240334aac...@argonet.co.uk>...

> In article <9lllj8$a97$1...@uranium.btinternet.com>, "CandiGrrl"
> <Cand...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
> > Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:na.84c02d4aab...@argonet.co.uk...
>
> >> There are three pictures of Bobo, but two of them look remarkably
> >> like Julia Roberts, and the third is one of your fuzzy snapshots.
>
> > The fuzzy one is my proud face and my proud face looks quite like my
> > wise face.
>
> Ah. What you need are more clear photos.

I know, but my webcam is all fuzzy.

> >> You don't have these 16...
>
> > Code Name: Foxfire (1985)
> > Misfits of Science (1985)
> > Down Twisted (1987)
> > If It's Tuesday, It Still Must Be Belgium (1987)
> > I'll Be Home for Christmas (1988)
> > Roxanne: The Prize Pulitzer (1989)
> > Curiosity Kills (1990)
> > Mr. Destiny (1990)
> > Shaking the Tree (1990)
> > Battling for Baby (1992)
> > The Opposite Sex and How to Live with Them (1992)
> > Sketch Artist II: Hands That See (1995)
> > The Runner (1999)
> > The Shrink Is In (2000)
> > 3000 Miles to Graceland (2001)
> > Alien Love Triangle (2001)
>
> > Correct. I really want 'If It's Tuesday, It Still Must Be Belgium' but
> > I don't think it's on sale even in the US! If anyone has a copy they
> > want to give me/sell me, please do so! hehe
>
> What about the other 15?

Well, most of those I can buy. That one I can't.

> >>>> I'm not denying that, but I was going to quote something different.
>
> >>> Is it a blonde joke?
>
> >> Of *course* not! I'm slightly offended you'd even suggest that. n/k
>
> > Sorry. I'm wary.
>
> You should trust me more.

Okay :)

> >>>>>>>>>>> Explain? Or hint?
>
> >>>>>>>>>> Just keep thinking "MGB" for a couple of months.
>
> >>>>>>>>> Isn't that a kind of car?!
>
> >>>>>>>> Wait & see...
>
> >>>>>>> I'm still thinking it.
>
> >>>>>> Good girl, have a choccy...
>
> >>>>> Woof!
>
> >>>> <pats Mari on the head>
>
> >>> I don't know what it is! But then I haven't been concentrating.
>
> >> Just wait & see, and then you'll know, okay? :)
>
> > This is no fun!
>
> All will be revealed.
>

Maria, Gym Bitch?

CandiGrrl

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"Mardi" <krt...@NOSPAM.com> wrote in message news:<IIuf7.321305$T97.37...@typhoon.nyroc.rr.com>...

> "CandiGrrl" <Cand...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> news:9lllgb$req$1...@neptunium.btinternet.com...
> > Mardi <krt...@NOSPAM.com> wrote in message
> > news:04cf7.319541$T97.36...@typhoon.nyroc.rr.com...
> > >
> > > "CandiGrrl" <Cand...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> > > news:9lj7kk$ccg$1...@neptunium.btinternet.com...
> > > > Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message
> > > > news:na.42387b4aab...@argonet.co.uk...
> > > > > In article <77c0196c.01081...@posting.google.com>,
> > > > > Cand...@btinternet.com (CandiGrrl) wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:<na.18a0ae4aaa...@argonet.co.uk>...
> > > > >
> >
> > Thanks. I've been told I look like Madonna. I don't. But now everyone
> > teases me about it! I don't look like Madonna!!
>
> Well, next time someone tells you that, you can say, "Actually, I've been
> told I look like Lisa Kudrow."

I have also been told I look like "the chick from Meet The Parents",
and Helen Hunt. Which I don't. Also, once somebody asked me for an
autograph. I have no idea who they thought I was so I signed it
"Celeste" and put lots of big kisses. A couple of weeks ago I found
out there's a porn star who goes by "Celeste". Oops!

> > > I knew about SMG, but not Lucy Lawless. I've never seen her blonde. Do
> you
> > > think it suited her more? I read an article (I think it was in _Allure_
> > > magazine), where SMG said she preferred being brunette, and had
> gradually
> > > darkened her hair since the first season of _Buffy_.
> >
> > SMG looks better brunette IMO.
>
> I agree.

Me too. Wait, I said the first one.

> > > I have no idea about LL's personal preferences.
> > >
> > > I've never been blonde, though years ago a co-worker photocopied a
> picture
> > > of me and redid me with big platinum hair (using wite-out), and titled
> it
> my
> > > "Blonde Ambition Tour" (yes, this coincided with Madonna's tour by that
> > > name!). I'm a brunette who has colored her hair black and numerous
> shades
> > > of brown and red, but never blonde (except a streak back in 1990). :)
> >
> > I want to dye mine dark brown. I'm sick of blonde, and blonde jokes :)
>
> I can imagine they could get you down. It's amazing the characteristics
> people assume go with hair color.

Yeah... but when you go from being blonde to being brunette, you
suddenly feel really different. People look at you less or something.
That's why most blondes who do that go back to being blonde
afterwards.

> > > > I once read about these little kids that did it though. They read a
> joke
> on
> > > > the back of a crisp packet that said "What's white, fluffy and goes
> round
> > > > and round? A cat in a washing machine!" and so they put their cat in
> the
> > > > washing machine to see. And then it died.
> > >
> > > Oh, God! I hate stories like this. :(
> >
> > Sorry!
>
> Oh, I just want to protect all the kitties!

Me too! Mine is in a nice mood today. I was making curtains (don't
ask) and she kept chasing the thread when I was sewing the tops of
them!

CandiGrrl

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Paul Hyett <pah...@activist.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:<P+8J56Ah...@activist.demon.co.uk>...

> On Sat, 18 Aug 2001, CandiGrrl <Cand...@btinternet.com> stated this
> considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -
>
> > I really want 'If It's Tuesday, It Still Must Be Belgium' but
> >I don't think it's on sale even in the US! If anyone has a copy they
> >want to give me/sell me, please do so! hehe
>
> I *did* have a (poor quality) copy of that, but then I saw it listed
> again so I thought I could retape it over the poor version.
>
> Unfortunately it turned out to be a previous version of the movie, so
> I'd killed my only copy. :(

Oh, that really old one with Ian McShane? Well, maybe they'll show the
CC one again one day. Hope so :(

CandiGrrl

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"Mardi" <krt...@NOSPAM.com> wrote in message news:<aqGf7.326583$T97.37...@typhoon.nyroc.rr.com>...
Lucky! I did, once! hehe

Tennant Stuart

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In article <DrGf7.326598$T97.37...@typhoon.nyroc.rr.com>, "Mardi"
<krt...@NOSPAM.com> wrote:

Oh, of course! I'd forgotten that! The bastard. :(

That's what you get for letting your husband play.

Tennant Stuart

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Aug 19, 2001, 5:51:21 PM8/19/01
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In article <3913psAF...@activist.demon.co.uk>, Paul Hyett
<pah...@activist.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> On Sun, 19 Aug 2001, Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> stated this
> considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -

>> Have either of you guys seen the episode of "Mad About You" where
>> Jamie went brunette? It so suited her, and I was so disappointed
>> that her new look didn't last.

> What is HH's natural hair colour?

No idea, I'm afraid. sorry.

Tennant Stuart

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Aug 20, 2001, 12:58:46 PM8/20/01
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In article <77c0196c.01081...@posting.google.com>,
Cand...@btinternet.com (CandiGrrl) wrote:

> Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message

> news:<na.8240334aac...@argonet.co.uk>...

>>>> There are three pictures of Bobo, but two of them look remarkably
>>>> like Julia Roberts, and the third is one of your fuzzy snapshots.

>>> The fuzzy one is my proud face and my proud face looks quite like my
>>> wise face.

>> Ah. What you need are more clear photos.

> I know, but my webcam is all fuzzy.

Yeah. :(


>>>> You don't have these 16...

>>> Code Name: Foxfire (1985)
>>> Misfits of Science (1985)
>>> Down Twisted (1987)
>>> If It's Tuesday, It Still Must Be Belgium (1987)
>>> I'll Be Home for Christmas (1988)
>>> Roxanne: The Prize Pulitzer (1989)
>>> Curiosity Kills (1990)
>>> Mr. Destiny (1990)
>>> Shaking the Tree (1990)
>>> Battling for Baby (1992)
>>> The Opposite Sex and How to Live with Them (1992)
>>> Sketch Artist II: Hands That See (1995)
>>> The Runner (1999)
>>> The Shrink Is In (2000)
>>> 3000 Miles to Graceland (2001)
>>> Alien Love Triangle (2001)

>>> Correct. I really want 'If It's Tuesday, It Still Must Be Belgium' but
>>> I don't think it's on sale even in the US! If anyone has a copy they
>>> want to give me/sell me, please do so! hehe

>> What about the other 15?

> Well, most of those I can buy. That one I can't.

Oh, well maybe it will turn up on the telly.


>>>>>> I'm not denying that, but I was going to quote something different.

>>>>> Is it a blonde joke?

>>>> Of *course* not! I'm slightly offended you'd even suggest that. n/k

>>> Sorry. I'm wary.

>> You should trust me more.

> Okay :)

Okay - as a teenager, Lisa Kudrow was so prim & conservative that she
underwent therapy, but then gradually changed her hair one summer: "That
really helped. Being blonde lightens your personality. People's attitudes
to you change. I was treated like a little girl, and flirted with more,
which I enjoyed. Possibly they thought I was dumb. I assumed blondes were
dumb too. There are a lot of prejudices to overcome. We have got to stop
thinking that if someone is not the same as us, they must be wrong". She
can be seen with dark hair in a November 1989 episode of "Cheers", and as
a brunette in a December 1992 episode of "Mad About You".

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Explain? Or hint?

>>>>>>>>>>>> Just keep thinking "MGB" for a couple of months.

>>>>>>>>>>> Isn't that a kind of car?!

>>>>>>>>>> Wait & see...

>>>>>>>>> I'm still thinking it.

>>>>>>>> Good girl, have a choccy...

>>>>>>> Woof!

>>>>>> <pats Mari on the head>

>>>>> I don't know what it is! But then I haven't been concentrating.

>>>> Just wait & see, and then you'll know, okay? :)

>>> This is no fun!

>> All will be revealed.

> Maria, Gym Bitch?

You're getting cold again. But please Mari, don't try to guess,
just enjoy the episodes as they come, and all will be revealed. :)

Mardi

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"Tennant Stuart" <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:na.adb8b74aac...@argonet.co.uk...

> In article <DrGf7.326598$T97.37...@typhoon.nyroc.rr.com>, "Mardi"
> <krt...@NOSPAM.com> wrote:
>
> > "Tennant Stuart" <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:na.593fb94aac...@argonet.co.uk...
>
> >> In article <9lllgb$req$1...@neptunium.btinternet.com>, "CandiGrrl"
> >> <Cand...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
> >>> Mardi <krt...@NOSPAM.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:04cf7.319541$T97.36...@typhoon.nyroc.rr.com...
>

> >> Have either of you guys seen the episode of "Mad About You" where


> >> Jamie went brunette? It so suited her, and I was so disappointed
> >> that her new look didn't last.
>
> > Yes, and I agree with you--I thought she looked great brunette. Bad Ned
> > (Hank Azaria) for being all mopey about the change. :)
>
> Oh, of course! I'd forgotten that! The bastard. :(
>
> That's what you get for letting your husband play.

True--and then they eventually split up, anyway. Does everyone here know he
does these voices, among others on _The Simpsons_?

Apu Nahasapeemapetilon, Moe Szyslak, Police Chief Clancy Wiggum, Comic Book
Guy, Lou, Carl, Dr. Nick Riviera, Snake, Kirk Van Houten, Bumblebee Man,
Professor John Frink, Cletus the Slack-Jawed Yokel

And of course he's Phoebe's David--the sweeper trapped in the body of a
physicist. :)

Mardi


Mardi

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"CandiGrrl" <Cand...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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Ouch!

Mardi


Tennant Stuart

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Aug 20, 2001, 5:36:07 PM8/20/01
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In article <utfg7.350507$T97.39...@typhoon.nyroc.rr.com>, "Mardi"
<krt...@NOSPAM.com> wrote:

> "Tennant Stuart" <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message

> news:na.adb8b74aac...@argonet.co.uk...

>>> Yes, and I agree with you--I thought she looked great brunette. Bad
>>> Ned (Hank Azaria) for being all mopey about the change. :)

>> Oh, of course! I'd forgotten that! The bastard. :(

>> That's what you get for letting your husband play.

> True--and then they eventually split up, anyway.

No, they divorced, but they stayed together.

CandiGrrl

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Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message news:<na.6dfefe4aac...@argonet.co.uk>...

> In article <77c0196c.01081...@posting.google.com>,
> Cand...@btinternet.com (CandiGrrl) wrote:
>
> > Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:<na.8240334aac...@argonet.co.uk>...
>
> >>>> There are three pictures of Bobo, but two of them look remarkably
> >>>> like Julia Roberts, and the third is one of your fuzzy snapshots.
>
> >>> The fuzzy one is my proud face and my proud face looks quite like my
> >>> wise face.
>
> >> Ah. What you need are more clear photos.
>
> > I know, but my webcam is all fuzzy.
>
> Yeah. :(

I'd try to fix it but I don't know anything about computers, and it
would probably all just explode in a ball of sparks the way it did the
other day.

> >>>> You don't have these 16...
>
> >>> Code Name: Foxfire (1985)
> >>> Misfits of Science (1985)
> >>> Down Twisted (1987)
> >>> If It's Tuesday, It Still Must Be Belgium (1987)
> >>> I'll Be Home for Christmas (1988)
> >>> Roxanne: The Prize Pulitzer (1989)
> >>> Curiosity Kills (1990)
> >>> Mr. Destiny (1990)
> >>> Shaking the Tree (1990)
> >>> Battling for Baby (1992)
> >>> The Opposite Sex and How to Live with Them (1992)
> >>> Sketch Artist II: Hands That See (1995)
> >>> The Runner (1999)
> >>> The Shrink Is In (2000)
> >>> 3000 Miles to Graceland (2001)
> >>> Alien Love Triangle (2001)
>
> >>> Correct. I really want 'If It's Tuesday, It Still Must Be Belgium' but
> >>> I don't think it's on sale even in the US! If anyone has a copy they
> >>> want to give me/sell me, please do so! hehe
>
> >> What about the other 15?
>
> > Well, most of those I can buy. That one I can't.
>
> Oh, well maybe it will turn up on the telly.

I hope so!

> >>>>>> I'm not denying that, but I was going to quote something different.
>
> >>>>> Is it a blonde joke?
>
> >>>> Of *course* not! I'm slightly offended you'd even suggest that. n/k
>
> >>> Sorry. I'm wary.
>
> >> You should trust me more.
>
> > Okay :)
>
> Okay - as a teenager, Lisa Kudrow was so prim & conservative that she
> underwent therapy, but then gradually changed her hair one summer: "That
> really helped. Being blonde lightens your personality. People's attitudes
> to you change. I was treated like a little girl, and flirted with more,
> which I enjoyed. Possibly they thought I was dumb. I assumed blondes were
> dumb too. There are a lot of prejudices to overcome. We have got to stop
> thinking that if someone is not the same as us, they must be wrong". She
> can be seen with dark hair in a November 1989 episode of "Cheers", and as
> a brunette in a December 1992 episode of "Mad About You".

And sort of as a brunette in 'The Opposite Of Sex'. :)

> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Explain? Or hint?
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Just keep thinking "MGB" for a couple of months.
>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Isn't that a kind of car?!
>
> >>>>>>>>>> Wait & see...
>
> >>>>>>>>> I'm still thinking it.
>
> >>>>>>>> Good girl, have a choccy...
>
> >>>>>>> Woof!
>
> >>>>>> <pats Mari on the head>
>
> >>>>> I don't know what it is! But then I haven't been concentrating.
>
> >>>> Just wait & see, and then you'll know, okay? :)
>
> >>> This is no fun!
>
> >> All will be revealed.
>
> > Maria, Gym Bitch?
>
> You're getting cold again. But please Mari, don't try to guess,
> just enjoy the episodes as they come, and all will be revealed. :)

Awww. Guessing is good.

CandiGrrl

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Mardi wrote in message ...

Yep. It wasn't *too* private but still. So embarrassing!


Mardi

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"Tennant Stuart" <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:na.ea4c344aad...@argonet.co.uk...

> In article <utfg7.350507$T97.39...@typhoon.nyroc.rr.com>, "Mardi"
> <krt...@NOSPAM.com> wrote:
>
> > "Tennant Stuart" <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:na.adb8b74aac...@argonet.co.uk...
>
> >>> Yes, and I agree with you--I thought she looked great brunette. Bad
> >>> Ned (Hank Azaria) for being all mopey about the change. :)
>
> >> Oh, of course! I'd forgotten that! The bastard. :(
>
> >> That's what you get for letting your husband play.
>
> > True--and then they eventually split up, anyway.
>
> No, they divorced, but they stayed together.

???

I'd heard they divorced and parted company. Helen Hunt and Kevin Spacey
were saying they were dating, having met during the making of _Pay it
Forward_.

Mardi


Tennant Stuart

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In article <77c0196c.01082...@posting.google.com>,
Cand...@btinternet.com (CandiGrrl) wrote:

> Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message

> news:<na.6dfefe4aac...@argonet.co.uk>...

>>>> What you need are more clear photos.

>>> I know, but my webcam is all fuzzy.

>> Yeah. :(

> I'd try to fix it but I don't know anything about computers, and it
> would probably all just explode in a ball of sparks the way it did the
> other day.

Gosh.

Why not use an ordinary camera, and scan it in?

>> Oh, well maybe it will turn up on the telly.

> I hope so!

If I should happen to notice, I'll tell you, but no promises.


>> As a teenager, Lisa Kudrow was so prim & conservative that she


>> underwent therapy, but then gradually changed her hair one summer:
>> "That really helped. Being blonde lightens your personality. People's
>> attitudes to you change. I was treated like a little girl, and flirted
>> with more, which I enjoyed. Possibly they thought I was dumb. I assumed
>> blondes were dumb too. There are a lot of prejudices to overcome. We
>> have got to stop thinking that if someone is not the same as us, they
>> must be wrong". She can be seen with dark hair in a November 1989
>> episode of "Cheers", and as a brunette in a December 1992 episode of
>> "Mad About You".

> And sort of as a brunette in 'The Opposite Of Sex'. :)

Ah, I haven't seen that yet.


>> You're getting cold again. But please Mari, don't try to guess,
>> just enjoy the episodes as they come, and all will be revealed. :)

> Awww. Guessing is good.

I guess.

Tennant Stuart

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In article <4Xug7.322423$EF2.40...@typhoon.nyroc.rr.com>, "Mardi"
<krt...@NOSPAM.com> wrote:

> "Tennant Stuart" <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message

> news:na.ea4c344aad...@argonet.co.uk...

>> They divorced, but they stayed together.

> ???

> I'd heard they divorced and parted company. Helen Hunt and Kevin Spacey
> were saying they were dating, having met during the making of _Pay it
> Forward_.

I'm only going by what people say.

Mardi

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"Tennant Stuart" <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:na.6219404aae...@argonet.co.uk...

> In article <77c0196c.01082...@posting.google.com>,
> Cand...@btinternet.com (CandiGrrl) wrote:
>
> > Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:<na.6dfefe4aac...@argonet.co.uk>...

> >> As a teenager, Lisa Kudrow was so prim & conservative that she


> >> underwent therapy, but then gradually changed her hair one summer:
> >> "That really helped. Being blonde lightens your personality. People's
> >> attitudes to you change. I was treated like a little girl, and flirted
> >> with more, which I enjoyed. Possibly they thought I was dumb. I assumed
> >> blondes were dumb too. There are a lot of prejudices to overcome. We
> >> have got to stop thinking that if someone is not the same as us, they
> >> must be wrong". She can be seen with dark hair in a November 1989
> >> episode of "Cheers", and as a brunette in a December 1992 episode of
> >> "Mad About You".
>
> > And sort of as a brunette in 'The Opposite Of Sex'. :)
>
> Ah, I haven't seen that yet.

Good movie--I recommend it. :)

Mardi


Mardi

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"Tennant Stuart" <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:na.2d1a3f4aae...@argonet.co.uk...

> In article <4Xug7.322423$EF2.40...@typhoon.nyroc.rr.com>, "Mardi"
> <krt...@NOSPAM.com> wrote:
>
> > "Tennant Stuart" <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:na.ea4c344aad...@argonet.co.uk...
>
> >> They divorced, but they stayed together.
>
> > ???
>
> > I'd heard they divorced and parted company. Helen Hunt and Kevin Spacey
> > were saying they were dating, having met during the making of _Pay it
> > Forward_.
>
> I'm only going by what people say.

Ah--me, too. :)

Mardi


CandiGrrl

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Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message news:<na.6219404aae...@argonet.co.uk>...

> In article <77c0196c.01082...@posting.google.com>,
> Cand...@btinternet.com (CandiGrrl) wrote:
>
> > Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:<na.6dfefe4aac...@argonet.co.uk>...
>
> >>>> What you need are more clear photos.
>
> >>> I know, but my webcam is all fuzzy.
>
> >> Yeah. :(
>
> > I'd try to fix it but I don't know anything about computers, and it
> > would probably all just explode in a ball of sparks the way it did the
> > other day.
>
> Gosh.
>
> Why not use an ordinary camera, and scan it in?

I really hate having my picture taken on an ordinary camera. I was
brave enough with that one, and I don't want any more! I used to get
them done in the photo booth, where you can see what you look like
before you okay it, but then they changed the lighting so that every
time anyone tried to get a picture taken they came out looking like
they have skin disease.

> >> Oh, well maybe it will turn up on the telly.
>
> > I hope so!
>
> If I should happen to notice, I'll tell you, but no promises.

I check My Digi Guide quite regularly :) And thanks.

> >> As a teenager, Lisa Kudrow was so prim & conservative that she
> >> underwent therapy, but then gradually changed her hair one summer:
> >> "That really helped. Being blonde lightens your personality. People's
> >> attitudes to you change. I was treated like a little girl, and flirted
> >> with more, which I enjoyed. Possibly they thought I was dumb. I assumed
> >> blondes were dumb too. There are a lot of prejudices to overcome. We
> >> have got to stop thinking that if someone is not the same as us, they
> >> must be wrong". She can be seen with dark hair in a November 1989
> >> episode of "Cheers", and as a brunette in a December 1992 episode of
> >> "Mad About You".
>
> > And sort of as a brunette in 'The Opposite Of Sex'. :)
>
> Ah, I haven't seen that yet.

You so should!

> >> You're getting cold again. But please Mari, don't try to guess,
> >> just enjoy the episodes as they come, and all will be revealed. :)
>
> > Awww. Guessing is good.
>
> I guess.
>

lol :)

Tennant Stuart

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> Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message

> news:<na.6219404aae...@argonet.co.uk>...

>> Why not use an ordinary camera, and scan it in?

> I really hate having my picture taken on an ordinary camera. I was
> brave enough with that one, and I don't want any more! I used to get
> them done in the photo booth, where you can see what you look like
> before you okay it, but then they changed the lighting so that every
> time anyone tried to get a picture taken they came out looking like
> they have skin disease.

Make yourself a reflector from white card, and hold it on your lap.


>>>> Oh, well maybe it will turn up on the telly.

>>> I hope so!

>> If I should happen to notice, I'll tell you, but no promises.

> I check My Digi Guide quite regularly :) And thanks.

Okay.


>>> And sort of as a brunette in 'The Opposite Of Sex'. :)

>> Ah, I haven't seen that yet.

> You so should!

Oh I shall, even though "Analyze This" was a big let-down.

Tennant Stuart

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In article <VVSg7.360760$T97.41...@typhoon.nyroc.rr.com>, "Mardi"
<krt...@NOSPAM.com> wrote:

> "Tennant Stuart" <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message

> news:na.6219404aae...@argonet.co.uk...

>>> And sort of as a brunette in 'The Opposite Of Sex'. :)

>> Ah, I haven't seen that yet.

> Good movie--I recommend it. :)

It had better be better than "Analyze This"...

Mardi

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"Tennant Stuart" <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> In article <VVSg7.360760$T97.41...@typhoon.nyroc.rr.com>, "Mardi"
> <krt...@NOSPAM.com> wrote:
>
> > "Tennant Stuart" <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:na.6219404aae...@argonet.co.uk...
>
> >>> And sort of as a brunette in 'The Opposite Of Sex'. :)
>
> >> Ah, I haven't seen that yet.
>
> > Good movie--I recommend it. :)
>
> It had better be better than "Analyze This"...

Much, much, much, much (multiply by a very high number) better. :)

Mardi


Tennant Stuart

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In article <YH8h7.363422$T97.41...@typhoon.nyroc.rr.com>, "Mardi"
<krt...@NOSPAM.com> wrote:

> "Tennant Stuart" <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message

> news:na.398d8c4aae...@argonet.co.uk...

>>>>> And sort of as a brunette in 'The Opposite Of Sex'. :)

>>>> Ah, I haven't seen that yet.

>>> Good movie--I recommend it. :)

>> It had better be better than "Analyze This"...

> Much, much, much, much (multiply by a very high number) better. :)

A googolplex?

CandiGrrl

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Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message news:<na.e58d584aae...@argonet.co.uk>...

> In article <77c0196c.01082...@posting.google.com>,
> Cand...@btinternet.com (CandiGrrl) wrote:
>
> > Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:<na.6219404aae...@argonet.co.uk>...
>
> >> Why not use an ordinary camera, and scan it in?
>
> > I really hate having my picture taken on an ordinary camera. I was
> > brave enough with that one, and I don't want any more! I used to get
> > them done in the photo booth, where you can see what you look like
> > before you okay it, but then they changed the lighting so that every
> > time anyone tried to get a picture taken they came out looking like
> > they have skin disease.
>
> Make yourself a reflector from white card, and hold it on your lap.

It's already too light in there. You come out looking as if you have
smallpox but tried to hide it by whitewashing your face.

> >>>> Oh, well maybe it will turn up on the telly.
>
> >>> I hope so!
>
> >> If I should happen to notice, I'll tell you, but no promises.
>
> > I check My Digi Guide quite regularly :) And thanks.
>
> Okay.
>
>
> >>> And sort of as a brunette in 'The Opposite Of Sex'. :)
>
> >> Ah, I haven't seen that yet.
>
> > You so should!
>
> Oh I shall, even though "Analyze This" was a big let-down.

That movie wasn't too good was it? Also LK was hardly in it. TOOS is
really funny, I recommend it :)

Mardi

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> In article <YH8h7.363422$T97.41...@typhoon.nyroc.rr.com>, "Mardi"
> <krt...@NOSPAM.com> wrote:
>
> > "Tennant Stuart" <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:na.398d8c4aae...@argonet.co.uk...
>
> >>>>> And sort of as a brunette in 'The Opposite Of Sex'. :)
>
> >>>> Ah, I haven't seen that yet.
>
> >>> Good movie--I recommend it. :)
>
> >> It had better be better than "Analyze This"...
>
> > Much, much, much, much (multiply by a very high number) better. :)
>
> A googolplex?

:)

Did you ever see _Clockwatchers_, BTW? Or _Romy and Michelle's High School
Reunion_?

Mardi


Tennant Stuart

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> Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message

> news:<na.e58d584aae...@argonet.co.uk>...

>>>> Why not use an ordinary camera, and scan it in?

>>> I really hate having my picture taken on an ordinary camera. I was
>>> brave enough with that one, and I don't want any more! I used to get
>>> them done in the photo booth, where you can see what you look like
>>> before you okay it, but then they changed the lighting so that every
>>> time anyone tried to get a picture taken they came out looking like
>>> they have skin disease.

>> Make yourself a reflector from white card, and hold it on your lap.

> It's already too light in there. You come out looking as if you have
> smallpox but tried to hide it by whitewashing your face.

You haven't tried it then. Most of the reflected light softens facial
shadows, while some of it causes the camera to reduce the exposure.


>>>>>> Oh, well maybe it will turn up on the telly.

>>>>> I hope so!

>>>> If I should happen to notice, I'll tell you, but no promises.

>>> I check My Digi Guide quite regularly :) And thanks.

>> Okay.


>>>>> And sort of as a brunette in 'The Opposite Of Sex'. :)

>>>> Ah, I haven't seen that yet.

>>> You so should!

>> Oh I shall, even though "Analyze This" was a big let-down.

> That movie wasn't too good was it?

I know, even though it was quite profitable for the studio.


> Also LK was hardly in it.

Exactly, she's very much a minor character, even though she gets third
billing, since DeNiro & Crystal dominate the movie. That's what gets me
a little annoyed when people say that CC only had third billing in the
Scream movies, overlooking the fact that it was alphabetical order.


> TOOS is really funny, I recommend it :)

Well, just for you sweetie, I'll give it a go when it comes up.

But people on ATF were telling me how great "Analyze This" was.

Tennant Stuart

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Aug 24, 2001, 11:22:11 AM8/24/01
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In article <n6fh7.345933$EF2.42...@typhoon.nyroc.rr.com>, "Mardi"
<krt...@NOSPAM.com> wrote:

> "Tennant Stuart" <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message

> news:na.34af9c4aae...@argonet.co.uk...

> Did you ever see _Clockwatchers_, BTW? Or _Romy and Michelle's High
> School Reunion_?

I didn't even recognise the title "Clockwatchers", I had to look it up.

Seems to be another Kudrow flop. It isn't in my bankability list since
no budget is given in the IMDb, but after three months its total gross
amounted to $444,354 which must represent a huge loss.

When you consider she earns twice that for one episode of "Friends",
it's a wonder they bothered to release the movie, she could have paid
the studio herself out of her pocket money.

OTOH, "Romy and Michelle's High School Reunion" I have at least heard
of, but am in no rush to see. Tell me, do you recall any scenes between
Michelle & Billy (aka-aka Phoebe & Fun Bobby in "Friends")?

Mardi

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"Tennant Stuart" <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> In article <n6fh7.345933$EF2.42...@typhoon.nyroc.rr.com>, "Mardi"
> <krt...@NOSPAM.com> wrote:
>
> > "Tennant Stuart" <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:na.34af9c4aae...@argonet.co.uk...
>
> > Did you ever see _Clockwatchers_, BTW? Or _Romy and Michelle's High
> > School Reunion_?
>
> I didn't even recognise the title "Clockwatchers", I had to look it up.
>
> Seems to be another Kudrow flop. It isn't in my bankability list since
> no budget is given in the IMDb, but after three months its total gross
> amounted to $444,354 which must represent a huge loss.
>
> When you consider she earns twice that for one episode of "Friends",
> it's a wonder they bothered to release the movie, she could have paid
> the studio herself out of her pocket money.

I'm glad that they *did* release it, because I thought it was a very good
movie. It was more a vehicle for Toni Colette, though. Nonetheless, LK did
a nice job, as usual.

> OTOH, "Romy and Michelle's High School Reunion" I have at least heard
> of, but am in no rush to see. Tell me, do you recall any scenes between
> Michelle & Billy (aka-aka Phoebe & Fun Bobby in "Friends")?

Oh, Tennant, it's hilarious. Billy was Romy's old high-school crush--as I
recall she had more interaction with him than Michelle did, but since R & M
were mostly inseparable in the film, I *think* LK also had screentime with
him.

Mardi


Tennant Stuart

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In article <knBh7.350344$EF2.43...@typhoon.nyroc.rr.com>, "Mardi"
<krt...@NOSPAM.com> wrote:

> "Tennant Stuart" <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message

> news:na.2a06f94aaf...@argonet.co.uk...

>>> Did you ever see _Clockwatchers_, BTW? Or _Romy and Michelle's High
>>> School Reunion_?

>> I didn't even recognise the title "Clockwatchers", I had to look it up.

>> Seems to be another Kudrow flop. It isn't in my bankability list since
>> no budget is given in the IMDb, but after three months its total gross
>> amounted to $444,354 which must represent a huge loss.

>> When you consider she earns twice that for one episode of "Friends",
>> it's a wonder they bothered to release the movie, she could have paid
>> the studio herself out of her pocket money.

> I'm glad that they *did* release it, because I thought it was a very good
> movie. It was more a vehicle for Toni Colette, though. Nonetheless, LK
> did a nice job, as usual.

Ah. Toni Collette was brilliant in "Muriel's Wedding".


>> OTOH, "Romy and Michelle's High School Reunion" I have at least heard
>> of, but am in no rush to see. Tell me, do you recall any scenes between
>> Michelle & Billy (aka-aka Phoebe & Fun Bobby in "Friends")?

> Oh, Tennant, it's hilarious. Billy was Romy's old high-school crush--as
> I recall she had more interaction with him than Michelle did, but since
> R & M were mostly inseparable in the film, I *think* LK also had screen
> time with him.

Hehe. Thanks. I'll look out for that when I (eventually) see it.

CandiGrrl

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Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message news:<na.a0059c4aaf...@argonet.co.uk>...

> In article <77c0196c.01082...@posting.google.com>,
> Cand...@btinternet.com (CandiGrrl) wrote:
>
> > Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:<na.e58d584aae...@argonet.co.uk>...
>
> >>>> Why not use an ordinary camera, and scan it in?
>
> >>> I really hate having my picture taken on an ordinary camera. I was
> >>> brave enough with that one, and I don't want any more! I used to get
> >>> them done in the photo booth, where you can see what you look like
> >>> before you okay it, but then they changed the lighting so that every
> >>> time anyone tried to get a picture taken they came out looking like
> >>> they have skin disease.
>
> >> Make yourself a reflector from white card, and hold it on your lap.
>
> > It's already too light in there. You come out looking as if you have
> > smallpox but tried to hide it by whitewashing your face.
>
> You haven't tried it then. Most of the reflected light softens facial
> shadows, while some of it causes the camera to reduce the exposure.

I'll take your word for it... I don't really go in there now, it
scares me.

> >>>>>> Oh, well maybe it will turn up on the telly.
>
> >>>>> I hope so!
>
> >>>> If I should happen to notice, I'll tell you, but no promises.
>
> >>> I check My Digi Guide quite regularly :) And thanks.
>
> >> Okay.
>
>
> >>>>> And sort of as a brunette in 'The Opposite Of Sex'. :)
>
> >>>> Ah, I haven't seen that yet.
>
> >>> You so should!
>
> >> Oh I shall, even though "Analyze This" was a big let-down.
>
> > That movie wasn't too good was it?
>
> I know, even though it was quite profitable for the studio.

Being profitable doesn't make it a good movie.

> > Also LK was hardly in it.
>
> Exactly, she's very much a minor character, even though she gets third
> billing, since DeNiro & Crystal dominate the movie. That's what gets me
> a little annoyed when people say that CC only had third billing in the
> Scream movies, overlooking the fact that it was alphabetical order.

CC was in Scream 3 more than she was in the first two, but my
favourite is still Scream 2. :) I like her hair in it.

> > TOOS is really funny, I recommend it :)
>
> Well, just for you sweetie, I'll give it a go when it comes up.
>
> But people on ATF were telling me how great "Analyze This" was.

Same here, it was really disappointing!

Mardi

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"Tennant Stuart" <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> In article <knBh7.350344$EF2.43...@typhoon.nyroc.rr.com>, "Mardi"
> <krt...@NOSPAM.com> wrote:
>
> > "Tennant Stuart" <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:na.2a06f94aaf...@argonet.co.uk...

> >> I didn't even recognise the title "Clockwatchers", I had to look it up.


>
> >> Seems to be another Kudrow flop. It isn't in my bankability list since
> >> no budget is given in the IMDb, but after three months its total gross
> >> amounted to $444,354 which must represent a huge loss.
>
> >> When you consider she earns twice that for one episode of "Friends",
> >> it's a wonder they bothered to release the movie, she could have paid
> >> the studio herself out of her pocket money.
>
> > I'm glad that they *did* release it, because I thought it was a very
good
> > movie. It was more a vehicle for Toni Colette, though. Nonetheless, LK
> > did a nice job, as usual.
>
> Ah. Toni Collette was brilliant in "Muriel's Wedding".

Yes she was--she's a terrific actress. Very versatile.

> >> OTOH, "Romy and Michelle's High School Reunion" I have at least heard
> >> of, but am in no rush to see. Tell me, do you recall any scenes between
> >> Michelle & Billy (aka-aka Phoebe & Fun Bobby in "Friends")?
>
> > Oh, Tennant, it's hilarious. Billy was Romy's old high-school crush--as
> > I recall she had more interaction with him than Michelle did, but since
> > R & M were mostly inseparable in the film, I *think* LK also had screen
> > time with him.
>
> Hehe. Thanks. I'll look out for that when I (eventually) see it.

Yup. It's a fun movie all around. LK and Mira Sorvino have great "buddy"
chemistry.

Mardi


Tennant Stuart

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> Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message

> news:<na.a0059c4aaf...@argonet.co.uk>...

>>>>>> Why not use an ordinary camera, and scan it in?

>>>>> I really hate having my picture taken on an ordinary camera. I was
>>>>> brave enough with that one, and I don't want any more! I used to get
>>>>> them done in the photo booth, where you can see what you look like
>>>>> before you okay it, but then they changed the lighting so that every
>>>>> time anyone tried to get a picture taken they came out looking like
>>>>> they have skin disease.

>>>> Make yourself a reflector from white card, and hold it on your lap.

>>> It's already too light in there. You come out looking as if you have
>>> smallpox but tried to hide it by whitewashing your face.

>> You haven't tried it then. Most of the reflected light softens facial
>> shadows, while some of it causes the camera to reduce the exposure.

> I'll take your word for it... I don't really go in there now, it
> scares me.

Conquer the photo booth, conquer your fears.


>>>>>>> And sort of as a brunette in 'The Opposite Of Sex'. :)

>>>>>> Ah, I haven't seen that yet.

>>>>> You so should!

>>>> Oh I shall, even though "Analyze This" was a big let-down.

>>> That movie wasn't too good was it?

>> I know, even though it was quite profitable for the studio.

> Being profitable doesn't make it a good movie.

Quite so.


>>> Also LK was hardly in it.

>> Exactly, she's very much a minor character, even though she gets third
>> billing, since DeNiro & Crystal dominate the movie. That's what gets me
>> a little annoyed when people say that CC only had third billing in the
>> Scream movies, overlooking the fact that it was alphabetical order.

> CC was in Scream 3 more than she was in the first two, but my
> favourite is still Scream 2. :) I like her hair in it.

I liked all three movies, but Scream 1 is the best whodunnit, and I
reckon it has the most gorgeous Gale. After that she's too thin.


>>> TOOS is really funny, I recommend it :)

>> Well, just for you sweetie, I'll give it a go when it comes up.

>> But people on ATF were telling me how great "Analyze This" was.

> Same here, it was really disappointing!

I know, and I had half a mind to delete it from her bankability
calculation, because she's such a minor player, but if I had done
that, then it would have removed $112m from her profitability.

CandiGrrl

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Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message news:<na.99a76b4aaf...@argonet.co.uk>...

> In article <77c0196c.01082...@posting.google.com>,
> Cand...@btinternet.com (CandiGrrl) wrote:
>
> > Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:<na.a0059c4aaf...@argonet.co.uk>...
>
> >>>>>> Why not use an ordinary camera, and scan it in?
>
> >>>>> I really hate having my picture taken on an ordinary camera. I was
> >>>>> brave enough with that one, and I don't want any more! I used to get
> >>>>> them done in the photo booth, where you can see what you look like
> >>>>> before you okay it, but then they changed the lighting so that every
> >>>>> time anyone tried to get a picture taken they came out looking like
> >>>>> they have skin disease.
>
> >>>> Make yourself a reflector from white card, and hold it on your lap.
>
> >>> It's already too light in there. You come out looking as if you have
> >>> smallpox but tried to hide it by whitewashing your face.
>
> >> You haven't tried it then. Most of the reflected light softens facial
> >> shadows, while some of it causes the camera to reduce the exposure.
>
> > I'll take your word for it... I don't really go in there now, it
> > scares me.
>
> Conquer the photo booth, conquer your fears.

I'll conquer my other fears first, like spiders. And that's never
going to happen!

> >>>>>>> And sort of as a brunette in 'The Opposite Of Sex'. :)
>
> >>>>>> Ah, I haven't seen that yet.
>
> >>>>> You so should!
>
> >>>> Oh I shall, even though "Analyze This" was a big let-down.
>
> >>> That movie wasn't too good was it?
>
> >> I know, even though it was quite profitable for the studio.
>
> > Being profitable doesn't make it a good movie.
>
> Quite so.

I hate it when people think that it does, don't you? That's probably
the reason that The Blair Witch Project was recommended to me, and it
bored me half to death.

> >>> Also LK was hardly in it.
>
> >> Exactly, she's very much a minor character, even though she gets third
> >> billing, since DeNiro & Crystal dominate the movie. That's what gets me
> >> a little annoyed when people say that CC only had third billing in the
> >> Scream movies, overlooking the fact that it was alphabetical order.
>
> > CC was in Scream 3 more than she was in the first two, but my
> > favourite is still Scream 2. :) I like her hair in it.
>
> I liked all three movies, but Scream 1 is the best whodunnit, and I
> reckon it has the most gorgeous Gale. After that she's too thin.

She isn't *that* thin in Scream 2. I just thought it was even more
tongue-in-cheek than Scream 1, I guess that's why I like it best.
Scream 3 wasn't as good as those, but still a pretty good movie on a
scale of 1-10. Shame about skinny Gale though - oh and her hair! I
weep!

> >>> TOOS is really funny, I recommend it :)
>
> >> Well, just for you sweetie, I'll give it a go when it comes up.
>
> >> But people on ATF were telling me how great "Analyze This" was.
>
> > Same here, it was really disappointing!
>
> I know, and I had half a mind to delete it from her bankability
> calculation, because she's such a minor player, but if I had done
> that, then it would have removed $112m from her profitability.

She can't afford to lose that!

Tennant Stuart

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In article <eHRh7.355817$EF2.44...@typhoon.nyroc.rr.com>, "Mardi"
<krt...@NOSPAM.com> wrote:

> "Tennant Stuart" <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message

> news:na.5b4cb84aaf...@argonet.co.uk...

>>> Oh, Tennant, it's hilarious. Billy was Romy's old high-school
>>> crush--as I recall she had more interaction with him than Michelle
>>> did, but since R & M were mostly inseparable in the film, I *think*
>>> LK also had screen time with him.

>> Hehe. Thanks. I'll look out for that when I (eventually) see it.

> Yup. It's a fun movie all around. LK and Mira Sorvino have great
> "buddy" chemistry.

Sorvino once made a good stab at playing Marilyn Monroe, but as I
recall I was very disappointed with her in "Mighty Aphrodite".

Tennant Stuart

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> Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message

> news:<na.99a76b4aaf...@argonet.co.uk>...

>> Conquer the photo booth, conquer your fears.

> I'll conquer my other fears first, like spiders. And that's never
> going to happen!

Have we done the spider thing, you & I?


>>> Being profitable doesn't make it a good movie.

>> Quite so.

> I hate it when people think that it does, don't you? That's probably
> the reason that The Blair Witch Project was recommended to me, and it
> bored me half to death.

It only bored me a tenth to death, for that's how long I lasted.


>>> CC was in Scream 3 more than she was in the first two, but my
>>> favourite is still Scream 2. :) I like her hair in it.

>> I liked all three movies, but Scream 1 is the best whodunnit, and I
>> reckon it has the most gorgeous Gale. After that she's too thin.

> She isn't *that* thin in Scream 2. I just thought it was even more
> tongue-in-cheek than Scream 1, I guess that's why I like it best.
> Scream 3 wasn't as good as those, but still a pretty good movie on a
> scale of 1-10. Shame about skinny Gale though - oh and her hair! I
> weep!

Okay, she's well fine in Scream 1, a bit thin in Scream 2, and far
too thin in Scream 3.


>>>>> TOOS is really funny, I recommend it :)

>>>> Well, just for you sweetie, I'll give it a go when it comes up.

>>>> But people on ATF were telling me how great "Analyze This" was.

>>> Same here, it was really disappointing!

>> I know, and I had half a mind to delete it from her bankability
>> calculation, because she's such a minor player, but if I had done
>> that, then it would have removed $112m from her profitability.

> She can't afford to lose that!

She certainly can't.

Whereas CCA could lose four times that amount, and still be $68m up.

Mardi

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"Tennant Stuart" <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> In article <eHRh7.355817$EF2.44...@typhoon.nyroc.rr.com>, "Mardi"
> <krt...@NOSPAM.com> wrote:
>
> > "Tennant Stuart" <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:na.5b4cb84aaf...@argonet.co.uk...
>
> >>> Oh, Tennant, it's hilarious. Billy was Romy's old high-school
> >>> crush--as I recall she had more interaction with him than Michelle
> >>> did, but since R & M were mostly inseparable in the film, I *think*
> >>> LK also had screen time with him.
>
> >> Hehe. Thanks. I'll look out for that when I (eventually) see it.
>
> > Yup. It's a fun movie all around. LK and Mira Sorvino have great
> > "buddy" chemistry.
>
> Sorvino once made a good stab at playing Marilyn Monroe, but as I
> recall I was very disappointed with her in "Mighty Aphrodite".

I never saw the Marilyn Monroe, but actually really liked her in _Mighty
Aphrodite_. Don't worry, I don't think that means you won't enjoy her in
_Romy and Michele_--Romy's nothing like Judy. . . .

Mardi


CandiGrrl

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Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message news:<na.84dac34aaf...@argonet.co.uk>...

> In article <77c0196c.01082...@posting.google.com>,
> Cand...@btinternet.com (CandiGrrl) wrote:
>
> > Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:<na.99a76b4aaf...@argonet.co.uk>...
>
> >> Conquer the photo booth, conquer your fears.
>
> > I'll conquer my other fears first, like spiders. And that's never
> > going to happen!
>
> Have we done the spider thing, you & I?

What spider thing?

> >>> Being profitable doesn't make it a good movie.
>
> >> Quite so.
>
> > I hate it when people think that it does, don't you? That's probably
> > the reason that The Blair Witch Project was recommended to me, and it
> > bored me half to death.
>
> It only bored me a tenth to death, for that's how long I lasted.

I should have left, but I thought maybe it got better at the end.

> >>> CC was in Scream 3 more than she was in the first two, but my
> >>> favourite is still Scream 2. :) I like her hair in it.
>
> >> I liked all three movies, but Scream 1 is the best whodunnit, and I
> >> reckon it has the most gorgeous Gale. After that she's too thin.
>
> > She isn't *that* thin in Scream 2. I just thought it was even more
> > tongue-in-cheek than Scream 1, I guess that's why I like it best.
> > Scream 3 wasn't as good as those, but still a pretty good movie on a
> > scale of 1-10. Shame about skinny Gale though - oh and her hair! I
> > weep!
>
> Okay, she's well fine in Scream 1, a bit thin in Scream 2, and far
> too thin in Scream 3.

I agree. Scream 3 Gale was scary!

> >>>>> TOOS is really funny, I recommend it :)
>
> >>>> Well, just for you sweetie, I'll give it a go when it comes up.
>
> >>>> But people on ATF were telling me how great "Analyze This" was.
>
> >>> Same here, it was really disappointing!
>
> >> I know, and I had half a mind to delete it from her bankability
> >> calculation, because she's such a minor player, but if I had done
> >> that, then it would have removed $112m from her profitability.
>
> > She can't afford to lose that!
>
> She certainly can't.
>
> Whereas CCA could lose four times that amount, and still be $68m up.

Go Courteney!

Tennant Stuart

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> Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message

> news:<na.84dac34aaf...@argonet.co.uk>...

>>>> Conquer the photo booth, conquer your fears.

>>> I'll conquer my other fears first, like spiders. And that's never
>>> going to happen!

>> Have we done the spider thing, you & I?

> What spider thing?

The "spiders are so cute" discussion.


>>>>> Being profitable doesn't make it a good movie.

>>>> Quite so.

>>> I hate it when people think that it does, don't you? That's probably
>>> the reason that The Blair Witch Project was recommended to me, and it
>>> bored me half to death.

>> It only bored me a tenth to death, for that's how long I lasted.

> I should have left, but I thought maybe it got better at the end.

Nah, leave early, and get a pass into another screen at the multiplex.


>>>>> CC was in Scream 3 more than she was in the first two, but my
>>>>> favourite is still Scream 2. :) I like her hair in it.

>>>> I liked all three movies, but Scream 1 is the best whodunnit, and I
>>>> reckon it has the most gorgeous Gale. After that she's too thin.

>>> She isn't *that* thin in Scream 2. I just thought it was even more
>>> tongue-in-cheek than Scream 1, I guess that's why I like it best.
>>> Scream 3 wasn't as good as those, but still a pretty good movie on a
>>> scale of 1-10. Shame about skinny Gale though - oh and her hair! I
>>> weep!

>> Okay, she's well fine in Scream 1, a bit thin in Scream 2, and far
>> too thin in Scream 3.

> I agree. Scream 3 Gale was scary!

Oh yes, BOTOH "end of trilogy" rules applied, and so I was genuinely
concerned for Gale's fate, which had me on the edge of my seat.


>>>>>>> TOOS is really funny, I recommend it :)

>>>>>> Well, just for you sweetie, I'll give it a go when it comes up.

>>>>>> But people on ATF were telling me how great "Analyze This" was.

>>>>> Same here, it was really disappointing!

>>>> I know, and I had half a mind to delete it from her bankability
>>>> calculation, because she's such a minor player, but if I had done
>>>> that, then it would have removed $112m from her profitability.

>>> She can't afford to lose that!

>> She certainly can't.

>> Whereas CCA could lose four times that amount, and still be $68m up.

> Go Courteney!

KICK ASS, girl!!

Tennant Stuart

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In article <148i7.391839$T97.44...@typhoon.nyroc.rr.com>, "Mardi"
<krt...@NOSPAM.com> wrote:

> "Tennant Stuart" <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message

> news:na.3cb6f74aaf...@argonet.co.uk...

>>>>> Oh, Tennant, it's hilarious. Billy was Romy's old high-school
>>>>> crush--as I recall she had more interaction with him than Michelle
>>>>> did, but since R & M were mostly inseparable in the film, I *think*
>>>>> LK also had screen time with him.

>>>> Hehe. Thanks. I'll look out for that when I (eventually) see it.

>>> Yup. It's a fun movie all around. LK and Mira Sorvino have great
>>> "buddy" chemistry.

>> Sorvino once made a good stab at playing Marilyn Monroe, but as I
>> recall I was very disappointed with her in "Mighty Aphrodite".

> I never saw the Marilyn Monroe, but actually really liked her in _Mighty
> Aphrodite_. Don't worry, I don't think that means you won't enjoy her in
> _Romy and Michele_--Romy's nothing like Judy. . . .

Okay. RAMHSR is on in 24 hours...

CandiGrrl

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Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message news:<na.fa3a484ab0...@argonet.co.uk>...

> In article <77c0196c.01082...@posting.google.com>,
> Cand...@btinternet.com (CandiGrrl) wrote:
>
> > Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:<na.84dac34aaf...@argonet.co.uk>...
>
> >>>> Conquer the photo booth, conquer your fears.
>
> >>> I'll conquer my other fears first, like spiders. And that's never
> >>> going to happen!
>
> >> Have we done the spider thing, you & I?
>
> > What spider thing?
>
> The "spiders are so cute" discussion.

Well, they aren't. I don't think we have.

> >>>>> Being profitable doesn't make it a good movie.
>
> >>>> Quite so.
>
> >>> I hate it when people think that it does, don't you? That's probably
> >>> the reason that The Blair Witch Project was recommended to me, and it
> >>> bored me half to death.
>
> >> It only bored me a tenth to death, for that's how long I lasted.
>
> > I should have left, but I thought maybe it got better at the end.
>

My friends thought it was good, and they didn't want to leave.

> Nah, leave early, and get a pass into another screen at the multiplex.

> >>>>> CC was in Scream 3 more than she was in the first two, but my
> >>>>> favourite is still Scream 2. :) I like her hair in it.
>
> >>>> I liked all three movies, but Scream 1 is the best whodunnit, and I
> >>>> reckon it has the most gorgeous Gale. After that she's too thin.
>
> >>> She isn't *that* thin in Scream 2. I just thought it was even more
> >>> tongue-in-cheek than Scream 1, I guess that's why I like it best.
> >>> Scream 3 wasn't as good as those, but still a pretty good movie on a
> >>> scale of 1-10. Shame about skinny Gale though - oh and her hair! I
> >>> weep!
>
> >> Okay, she's well fine in Scream 1, a bit thin in Scream 2, and far
> >> too thin in Scream 3.
>
> > I agree. Scream 3 Gale was scary!
>
> Oh yes, BOTOH "end of trilogy" rules applied, and so I was genuinely
> concerned for Gale's fate, which had me on the edge of my seat.

I read the abridged script at The Editing Room before I saw the movie
(Spoiler Slut, damnit) and so I knew what happened. Same with 3000
Miles To Graceland. I read Mr Cranky's review (which I LOVED! And if
you don't like David Arquette, you'll love it too) and so I know what
happens even though I haven't seen it.

> >>>>>>> TOOS is really funny, I recommend it :)
>
> >>>>>> Well, just for you sweetie, I'll give it a go when it comes up.
>
> >>>>>> But people on ATF were telling me how great "Analyze This" was.
>
> >>>>> Same here, it was really disappointing!
>
> >>>> I know, and I had half a mind to delete it from her bankability
> >>>> calculation, because she's such a minor player, but if I had done
> >>>> that, then it would have removed $112m from her profitability.
>
> >>> She can't afford to lose that!
>
> >> She certainly can't.
>
> >> Whereas CCA could lose four times that amount, and still be $68m up.
>
> > Go Courteney!
>
> KICK ASS, girl!!

Hehe!

Mardi

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"Tennant Stuart" <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:na.f53a5f4ab0...@argonet.co.uk...

> In article <148i7.391839$T97.44...@typhoon.nyroc.rr.com>, "Mardi"
> <krt...@NOSPAM.com> wrote:
>
> > "Tennant Stuart" <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:na.3cb6f74aaf...@argonet.co.uk...
>
> >>>>> Oh, Tennant, it's hilarious. Billy was Romy's old high-school
> >>>>> crush--as I recall she had more interaction with him than Michelle
> >>>>> did, but since R & M were mostly inseparable in the film, I *think*
> >>>>> LK also had screen time with him.
>
> >>>> Hehe. Thanks. I'll look out for that when I (eventually) see it.
>
> >>> Yup. It's a fun movie all around. LK and Mira Sorvino have great
> >>> "buddy" chemistry.
>
> >> Sorvino once made a good stab at playing Marilyn Monroe, but as I
> >> recall I was very disappointed with her in "Mighty Aphrodite".
>
> > I never saw the Marilyn Monroe, but actually really liked her in _Mighty
> > Aphrodite_. Don't worry, I don't think that means you won't enjoy her
in
> > _Romy and Michele_--Romy's nothing like Judy. . . .
>
> Okay. RAMHSR is on in 24 hours...

Yay! Hope you like it. :)

Mardi


Tennant Stuart

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> Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message

> news:<na.fa3a484ab0...@argonet.co.uk>...

>>>>>> Conquer the photo booth, conquer your fears.

>>>>> I'll conquer my other fears first, like spiders. And that's never
>>>>> going to happen!

>>>> Have we done the spider thing, you & I?

>>> What spider thing?

>> The "spiders are so cute" discussion.

> Well, they aren't. I don't think we have.

You wanna?


>>>> It only bored me a tenth to death, for that's how long I lasted.

>>> I should have left, but I thought maybe it got better at the end.

>> Nah, leave early, and get a pass into another screen at the multiplex.

> My friends thought it was good, and they didn't want to leave.

New friends...


>>>>>>> CC was in Scream 3 more than she was in the first two, but my
>>>>>>> favourite is still Scream 2. :) I like her hair in it.

>>>>>> I liked all three movies, but Scream 1 is the best whodunnit, and I
>>>>>> reckon it has the most gorgeous Gale. After that she's too thin.

>>>>> She isn't *that* thin in Scream 2. I just thought it was even more
>>>>> tongue-in-cheek than Scream 1, I guess that's why I like it best.
>>>>> Scream 3 wasn't as good as those, but still a pretty good movie on a
>>>>> scale of 1-10. Shame about skinny Gale though - oh and her hair! I
>>>>> weep!

>>>> Okay, she's well fine in Scream 1, a bit thin in Scream 2, and far
>>>> too thin in Scream 3.

>>> I agree. Scream 3 Gale was scary!

>> Oh yes, BOTOH "end of trilogy" rules applied, and so I was genuinely
>> concerned for Gale's fate, which had me on the edge of my seat.

> I read the abridged script at The Editing Room before I saw the movie
> (Spoiler Slut, damnit) and so I knew what happened. Same with 3000
> Miles To Graceland. I read Mr Cranky's review (which I LOVED! And if
> you don't like David Arquette, you'll love it too) and so I know what
> happens even though I haven't seen it.

Oh dear, Mari... what are we going to do with you? :)

Tennant Stuart

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In article <OcBi7.379654$EF2.46...@typhoon.nyroc.rr.com>, "Mardi"
<krt...@NOSPAM.com> wrote:

> "Tennant Stuart" <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message

> news:na.f53a5f4ab0...@argonet.co.uk...

>>>>>>> Oh, Tennant, it's hilarious. Billy was Romy's old high-school
>>>>>>> crush--as I recall she had more interaction with him than Michelle
>>>>>>> did, but since R & M were mostly inseparable in the film, I
>>>>>>> *think* LK also had screen time with him.

>>>>>> Hehe. Thanks. I'll look out for that when I (eventually) see it.

>>>>> Yup. It's a fun movie all around. LK and Mira Sorvino have great
>>>>> "buddy" chemistry.

>>>> Sorvino once made a good stab at playing Marilyn Monroe, but as I
>>>> recall I was very disappointed with her in "Mighty Aphrodite".

>>> I never saw the Marilyn Monroe, but actually really liked her in
>>> _Mighty Aphrodite_. Don't worry, I don't think that means you won't
>>> enjoy her in _Romy and Michele_--Romy's nothing like Judy. . . .

>> Okay. RAMHSR is on in 24 hours...

> Yay! Hope you like it. :)

Me2. It recorded okay.

CandiGrrl

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Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message news:<na.72e2ee4ab0...@argonet.co.uk>...

> In article <77c0196c.01082...@posting.google.com>,
> Cand...@btinternet.com (CandiGrrl) wrote:
>
> > Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:<na.fa3a484ab0...@argonet.co.uk>...
>
> >>>>>> Conquer the photo booth, conquer your fears.
>
> >>>>> I'll conquer my other fears first, like spiders. And that's never
> >>>>> going to happen!
>
> >>>> Have we done the spider thing, you & I?
>
> >>> What spider thing?
>
> >> The "spiders are so cute" discussion.
>
> > Well, they aren't. I don't think we have.
>
> You wanna?

Sure. I'm bored.

> >>>> It only bored me a tenth to death, for that's how long I lasted.
>
> >>> I should have left, but I thought maybe it got better at the end.
>
> >> Nah, leave early, and get a pass into another screen at the multiplex.
>
> > My friends thought it was good, and they didn't want to leave.
>
> New friends...

I really am thinking about it.

> >>>>>>> CC was in Scream 3 more than she was in the first two, but my
> >>>>>>> favourite is still Scream 2. :) I like her hair in it.
>
> >>>>>> I liked all three movies, but Scream 1 is the best whodunnit, and I
> >>>>>> reckon it has the most gorgeous Gale. After that she's too thin.
>
> >>>>> She isn't *that* thin in Scream 2. I just thought it was even more
> >>>>> tongue-in-cheek than Scream 1, I guess that's why I like it best.
> >>>>> Scream 3 wasn't as good as those, but still a pretty good movie on a
> >>>>> scale of 1-10. Shame about skinny Gale though - oh and her hair! I
> >>>>> weep!
>
> >>>> Okay, she's well fine in Scream 1, a bit thin in Scream 2, and far
> >>>> too thin in Scream 3.
>
> >>> I agree. Scream 3 Gale was scary!
>
> >> Oh yes, BOTOH "end of trilogy" rules applied, and so I was genuinely
> >> concerned for Gale's fate, which had me on the edge of my seat.
>
> > I read the abridged script at The Editing Room before I saw the movie
> > (Spoiler Slut, damnit) and so I knew what happened. Same with 3000
> > Miles To Graceland. I read Mr Cranky's review (which I LOVED! And if
> > you don't like David Arquette, you'll love it too) and so I know what
> > happens even though I haven't seen it.
>
> Oh dear, Mari... what are we going to do with you? :)

Oh, you know you love it.

Mardi

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"CandiGrrl" <Cand...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:77c0196c.01082...@posting.google.com...

> Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:<na.72e2ee4ab0...@argonet.co.uk>...
> > In article <77c0196c.01082...@posting.google.com>,
> > Cand...@btinternet.com (CandiGrrl) wrote:
> >
> > > Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message
> > > news:<na.fa3a484ab0...@argonet.co.uk>...

> > > I read the abridged script at The Editing Room before I saw the movie


> > > (Spoiler Slut, damnit) and so I knew what happened. Same with 3000
> > > Miles To Graceland. I read Mr Cranky's review (which I LOVED! And if
> > > you don't like David Arquette, you'll love it too) and so I know what
> > > happens even though I haven't seen it.
> >
> > Oh dear, Mari... what are we going to do with you? :)
>
> Oh, you know you love it.

I made the mistake of reading the abridged script there for _The Sixth
Sense_ before seeing the film, and it totally ruined the main surprise,
while claiming it was obvious (it so wouldn't have been had I not been
expecting it!). So I now make a point of reading those scripts only for
films I've seen, unless I'm absolutely sure I don't want to see the film in
question.

Mardi


CandiGrrl

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"Mardi" <krt...@NOSPAM.com> wrote in message news:<XJSi7.401537$T97.46...@typhoon.nyroc.rr.com>...

Well, when I saw The Sixth Sense, I got it wrong and didn't actually
realise that it was a twist. I thought it was just the storyline and
so when the audience all went "Ooohhhh", I went "What?"

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