Cast List
Alan Rayner
There appears to be some interest expressed recently in associating
actor names with their alias names.
Attached is my first list of such associations. It has several blanks
and members of the group *may* wish to provide details of persons missing
or complete details where only part of the name is given.
It is facinating to note how easily names that were household names only
a few years ago have slipped from the memory.
Does anyone remember the major campaign on Merseyside in which the public
demanded the freedom from jail of one of the Brookside residents who was
"stitched up" for a crime that he did not commit?
Was Alexandra Pigg the first to leave the close? I recall that she was
portrayed as having some mental difficulties in the time following her
waking up next to a corpse. No wonder she felt moved to write a letter
to the then president of the Soviet Union!!
Anyway, all additions to the list would be welcome.
Can anyone spot the interloper(s) - the entry/ies on the list for one
or more person who has never lived on the Close or the Parade?
Name Alias
------------------- ---------------------
ALLEN, Jessica STANLOW, Kylie
AMBROSE, Gladys BROGAN, Julia
BECK, Robert -, Peter
BURGESS, John CROSBIE, David
BURKE, Diane ROGERS, Katie
BURTON, Amanda HAVERSHAM, Heather
BYATT, Paul DIXON, Mike
CARTLIDGE, Katrin COLLINS, Lucy
CHAPMAN, Tiffany WRIGHT, Rachel
COLE, Steven JOHNSON, Leo
CONNOR, Carol O'LEARY, Carmel
DEAN, Bill CROSS, Harry
DOWD, Philip WRIGHT, Christian
DRURY, Karen FARNHAM, Susannah
EARL, Vince DIXON, Ron
EASTER, David -, Pat
EMERICK, Louis JOHNSON, Mick
FAULKNER, Lisa HOPE, Louise
FLETCHER, Alexandra DIXON, Jacqui
FRIEL, Anna -, -
GRACE, Helen SIMPSON, Georgia
GRAY, Ebony CHARLTON, Cassie
GRIER, Sheila -, Sandra
HILLS, Beverley JOHNSON, Elaine
JACKSON, Michael SIMPSON, Ollie
JENKINS, Sue CORKHILL, Jackie
JOHNSTON, Sue GRANT, Sheila
KAMANGA, Naomi JOHNSON, Gemma
KANE, Samuel PHELAN, Peter
KEARNEY, Gillian -, -
KEEN, Diane MARCHBANK, Molly
KERRIGAN, Patricia -, -
KERRIGAN, Justine -, -
LINDSAY, Rachael ROGERS, Sammy
MAITLAND, Sandra -, -
MALONE, Tina MCGEE, Mo
MCARDLE, John CORKHILL, Billy
MILES, Annie SULLIVAN, Sue
NIGHTINGALE, Lesley SIMPSON, Bel
NOLAN, Amanda MORRISSEY, Lisa
O'BRIEN, Simon GRANT, Damien
OLIVIER, Philip O'LEARY, Timothy
PAUL, Simon O'LEARY, Ben
PEASGOOD, Julie -, Fran
PELKA, Kazia -, Anna
PIGG, Alexandra -, -
PINDER, Steven FARNHAM, Max
REECE, Georgia KITSON, Eleanor
REGAN, Brian SULLIVAN, Terry
ROTHWELL, Alan BLACK, -
SANDIFER, Jon SIMPSON, Nat
SCOGGO, Tony NOLAN, Matty
SLOANE, Doreen COLLINS, Annabelle
STARKE, Michael SWEENEY, Thomas
STELFOX, Shirley -, Madge
SULLIVAN, Dean CORKHILL, Jimmy
SWEENEY, Claire CORKHILL, Lindsey
TOMLINSON, Ricky GRANT, Bobby
USHER, Paul GRANT, Barry
WIGGINS, - COLLINS, Paul
WITHE, Sarah -, Beverley
Thanks go to Ann in Germany for her inspiration in the devising of
this list. Please submit corrections/additions for her sake and that
of any other viewers without access to listing magazine cast lists.
--
Alan Rayner (al...@lightnet.co.uk)
Ivydene Cottage, Homend Crescent, Ledbury, Herefordshire HR8 1AH UK
0976-262406
Data Consultant to FE colleges in the UK
Dave Parker
Alan (is THAT your real name, or are you an actor playing the part of
A Rayner??), I've filled in some blanks for you....
> Name Alias
> ------------------- ---------------------
> ALLEN, Jessica STANLOW, Kylie
> AMBROSE, Gladys BROGAN, Julia
> BECK, Robert -, Peter
Peter PHELAN (Fi's Brother)
> BURGESS, John CROSBIE, David
> BURKE, Diane ROGERS, Katie
> BURTON, Amanda HAVERSHAM, Heather
> BYATT, Paul DIXON, Mike
> CARTLIDGE, Katrin COLLINS, Lucy
> CHAPMAN, Tiffany WRIGHT, Rachel
> COLE, Steven JOHNSON, Leo
> CONNOR, Carol O'LEARY, Carmel
> DEAN, Bill CROSS, Harry
> DOWD, Philip WRIGHT, Christian
> DRURY, Karen FARNHAM, Susannah
> EARL, Vince DIXON, Ron
> EASTER, David -, Pat
Pat HANCOCK (Hospital Porter)
> EMERICK, Louis JOHNSON, Mick
> FAULKNER, Lisa HOPE, Louise
> FLETCHER, Alexandra DIXON, Jacqui
> FRIEL, Anna -, -
Beth JORDACH (Lover of Margaret CLEMENCE)
> GRACE, Helen SIMPSON, Georgia
> GRAY, Ebony CHARLTON, Cassie
> GRIER, Sheila -, Sandra
Sandra MAGHIE (Scottish Nurse)
> HILLS, Beverley JOHNSON, Elaine
> JACKSON, Michael SIMPSON, Ollie
> JENKINS, Sue CORKHILL, Jackie
> JOHNSTON, Sue GRANT, Sheila
> KAMANGA, Naomi JOHNSON, Gemma
> KANE, Samuel PHELAN, Peter
> KEARNEY, Gillian -, -
Debby MCGRATH (Damon's Girlfriend when he was stabbed)
> KEEN, Diane MARCHBANK, Molly
> KERRIGAN, Patricia -, -
Unsure
> KERRIGAN, Justine -, -
Tracy CORKHILL
> LINDSAY, Rachael ROGERS, Sammy
> MAITLAND, Sandra -, -
Unsure
> MALONE, Tina MCGEE, Mo
MAXWELL, William Jack SULLIVAN (Terry's Dad)
> MCARDLE, John CORKHILL, Billy
> MILES, Annie SULLIVAN, Sue
> NIGHTINGALE, Lesley SIMPSON, Bel
> NOLAN, Amanda MORRISSEY, Lisa
> O'BRIEN, Simon GRANT, Damien
> OLIVIER, Philip O'LEARY, Timothy
> PAUL, Simon O'LEARY, Ben
> PEASGOOD, Julie -, Fran
Fran PEARSON (Mother of Barry's child)
> PELKA, Kazia -, Anna
Anna WOLSKA
> PIGG, Alexandra -, -
Petra TAYLOR
> PINDER, Steven FARNHAM, Max
> REECE, Georgia KITSON, Eleanor
> REGAN, Brian SULLIVAN, Terry
> ROTHWELL, Alan BLACK, -
Nicholas BLACK (Druggy)
> SANDIFER, Jon SIMPSON, Nat
SAUNDERS, Maggie Lucy Collins (The Original one)
> SCOGGO, Tony NOLAN, Matty
> SLOANE, Doreen COLLINS, Annabelle
SPENDLOVE, Robert Roger HUNTINGDON
> STARKE, Michael SWEENEY, Thomas
> STELFOX, Shirley -, Madge
Madge RICHMOND
> SULLIVAN, Dean CORKHILL, Jimmy
> SWEENEY, Claire CORKHILL, Lindsey
TIERNEY, Malcolm Tommy McARDLE
> TOMLINSON, Ricky GRANT, Bobby
> USHER, Paul GRANT, Barry
> WIGGINS, - COLLINS, Paul
Jim WIGGINS
> WITHE, Sarah -, Beverley
Actually Sarah WHITE, who played Beverley MCLOUGHLIN
Credits to Phil Redmond's "BROOKSIDE: The Official Companion" and
"BROOKSIDE: Life in the Close" for the above information, (just to
keep legal about this, if necessary)
There are characters who have dipped in and out, at various times, and
others not mentioned here.....
Dave Parker
Truth is too precious to tell everyone who asks for it
(And most won't believe you anyway)
Paul Baker
In article <199801101...@lightnet.co.uk>, Alan Rayner
<al...@lightnet.co.uk> writes
>Does anyone remember the major campaign on Merseyside in which the public
>demanded the freedom from jail of one of the Brookside residents who was
>"stitched up" for a crime that he did not commit?
Yep, George Jackson (can't remember the actor's name.) The campaign
wasn't just on Merseyside either....
> FRIEL, Anna -, -
Beth Jordache
> KEARNEY, Gillian -, -
Remind me someone, please!
> KERRIGAN, Justine -, -
Wasn't she a young Corkhill (Rod's little Sis? (Tracy)) Having said
that is Rod in the list? ...and wasn't there a third Corkill kid.
There are a few missing kids.... Karen Grant (if not above), Gordon
Collins (who had two incarnations), Danny Simpson, The Dixon kid (Tony)
that was killed by Jimmy Corkhill, Rod Corkhill's girlfriend(s) (The one
from the chemist(? Diana something) and the other one (Kirsty)) Max
Farnham's other kids (and Matthew & Emily)
> MAITLAND, Sandra -, -
The Jordache Mum (? Mandy) Trevor Jordache isn't in the list either.
> O'BRIEN, Simon GRANT, Damien
Wasn't it Damon? Have I missed Debbie in the list?
Other names that spring to mind are Edna Cross, (?)Jonathon Gordon
Davies (+ Girlfriend / wife (the one that fell down the stairs)), Matty
Nolan's wife who jumped into the Mersey, Marie Jackson (and the kids),
DD Dixon. Finally, the chap with the big glasses who was in Brookie
around the time of Heather H. Can't remember anything about him but can
picture him in my mind!!
Can I remember any of the names of the actors? Can I heck!! (Except
Gabrielle Glaister = Patricia Farnham.) However, it will all come
flooding back when someone posts them!!! (Like who was the original
owner of the purple/maroon Cortina Mk 1 and his wife who was Bev's
(Mother of Josh) Sister. Also Just remembered David (?) Yip (the
chinese detective and his wife/girlfriend and Terry Sulivans's Dad
Finally, finally... what about the "baddies" like S-s-s-izzler and Tommy
McArdle?
--
Paul Baker **replace 'news' with 'paul' if replying by email**
Birmingham, UK
Mr 50%
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>There appears to be some interest expressed recently in associating
>actor names with their alias names.
The interest expressed has been mainly in using the characters name,
that way we all know whos being talked about.
Now your telling me I have to learn a 100 or so names, just so as to
understand the posts ?
This IS supposed to be the Brookie Newsgroup, its best we use the
character names, rather than the actors, which is a waste of time,
effort and irrelevant.
Its not logical Captain !
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Paul Baker
In article <34b7f5bf...@news.demon.co.uk>, Dave Parker
<da...@horizon-solara.demon.co.uk> writes
>Credits to Phil Redmond's "BROOKSIDE: The Official Companion" and
>"BROOKSIDE: Life in the Close" for the above information, (just to
>keep legal about this, if necessary)
... and there was me thinking "This chap's got a bloody good memory!" :)
Alan Rayner
Thank you Dave for this info which brings back fond memories.
How could I have forgotten Nicola Stephenson and - Moore her
priestly consort?
> Alan (is THAT your real name, or are you an actor playing the part of
> A Rayner??),
To the best of my knowledge and belief it is my real name. However,
there was some talk of me being a "changeling"!!
> > Name Alias
> > ------------------- ---------------------
> > BECK, Robert -, Peter
> Peter PHELAN (Fi's Brother)
I am not sure about this one. Is there not a confusion with Samuel
Kane who has just been discarded by Claire Sweeney?
Robert Beck was a rape suspect and lived at number Nine after his
parents (his mother being head teacher at the local Comprehensive
for a while) moved out of the area.
> > EASTER, David -, Pat
> Pat HANCOCK (Hospital Porter)
Yes. He used to sell vegetables out of an old ambulance. Nowadays he
has a drug racket in Charnham.
> > FRIEL, Anna -, -
> Beth JORDACH (Lover of Margaret CLEMENCE)
With a final e to make Jordache I believe.
Her lesbian scene with Nicola Stephenson gained more notoriety than
it deserved but Nicola got more publicity later for her part in a
police story set on another Northern housing estate.
> > GRIER, Sheila -, Sandra
> Sandra MAGHIE (Scottish Nurse)
> > KEARNEY, Gillian -, -
> Debby MCGRATH (Damon's Girlfriend when he was stabbed)
Did she not have a child that was supported by Sue Johnston for a while?
> > KERRIGAN, Patricia -, -
> Unsure
> > KERRIGAN, Justine -, -
> Tracy CORKHILL
Yet another woman who admired Paul Usher!
> > MAITLAND, Sandra -, -
Sandra was Anna Friel's mother. She moved to Bristol to work in a
Women's refuge after having a child with Michael Starke. Her daughter
Tiffany Chapman sustained a failed marriage recently.
> MAXWELL, William Jack SULLIVAN (Terry's Dad)
William used to have great cameo roles as Santa Claus for several
years in the old days.
> > PEASGOOD, Julie -, Fran
> Fran PEARSON (Mother of Barry's child)
It is interesting that Julie Peasgood currently advertises Peas!
> > PELKA, Kazia -, Anna
> Anna WOLSKA
Kazia, of course, has moved to Yorkshire (despite living in London
as per a recnet Radio time article) and become a health visitor.
> > PIGG, Alexandra -, -
> Petra TAYLOR
Her husband used to keep refrigerators on the grass outside number six
but that was before Mersey Television bought the Parade and so could
store the refrigerators in Michael Starke's shop. Incidentally, who
does the window cleaning nowadays. Have they all followed the example
of Louis Emerick and taken to doing it themselves?
> > ROTHWELL, Alan BLACK, -
> Nicholas BLACK (Druggy)
Married to Amanda Burton for a while.
> SAUNDERS, Maggie Lucy Collins (The Original one)
> SPENDLOVE, Robert Roger HUNTINGDON
Was he not the first one to live with Amanda Burton in Number nine?
> > STELFOX, Shirley -, Madge
> Madge RICHMOND
> TIERNEY, Malcolm Tommy McARDLE
They don't make gansters like they used to do.
Malcolm Tierney had a certain style.
> > WIGGINS, - COLLINS, Paul
> Jim WIGGINS
> > WITHE, Sarah -, Beverley
> Actually Sarah WHITE, who played Beverley MCLOUGHLIN
Correction accepted but there was another character with the name
WITHE because it was potentially confusing.
Who was that other character?
> Credits to Phil Redmond's "BROOKSIDE: The Official Companion" and
> "BROOKSIDE: Life in the Close" for the above information, (just to
> keep legal about this, if necessary)
> There are characters who have dipped in and out, at various times, and
> others not mentioned here.....
> Dave Parker
> Truth is too precious to tell everyone who asks for it
> (And most won't believe you anyway)
I agree with this last comment.
What is truth anyway?
(But if you are talking about Truth - thats a different matter ....)
Alan Rayner
> What about the ORIGINAL Alan Partridge? He was in from the start, was
> a computer programmer, and was plated by Dickon Ashworth (I think).
> alberto frog
I cannot confirm any of this but congratulations on the "typo".
Any character would be proud to be "plated"!
Does one have a choice of gold-plating or silver?
Alan Rayner
> There are a few missing kids....
> Karen Grant (if not above), Shelagh O'Hara?
> Danny Simpson, Andrew Butler?
> DD Dixon. Irene Marot?
> Finally, the chap with the big glasses who was in Brookie
> around the time of Heather H. Can't remember anything about him but can
> picture him in my mind!!
This guy had an alias of Alan Partridge but I forget his real name.
> Gabrielle Glaister = Patricia Farnham.
Yes I overlooked her - shame on me!
> However, it will all come flooding back when someone posts them!!!
Yes. This topic could be a real memory jerker!!
(Like who was the original
> owner of the purple/maroon Cortina Mk 1 and his wife who was Bev's
> (Mother of Josh) Sister.
The alias of the Cortina owner was Frank Rogers. He died in a vehicle
accident I believe but his daughter Diane Burke lives on to continue
working in the office of Georgia Reece on the Parade as well as being
a confidante to Alexandra Fletcher.
> Also Just remembered David (?) Yip (the chinese detective)
He had a father from Hong Kong who ran a restaurant, I believe.
> Finally, finally... what about the "baddies" like S-s-s-izzler and Tommy
> McArdle?
> Paul Baker
Thank you Paul for this contribution. I will aim to compile a
consolidated list later in the month. All the clues assist in this
and it's great fun bringing back the memories.
Bazza
On Sat, 10 Jan 1998 19:18:27 GMT, Alan Rayner <al...@lightnet.co.uk>
wibbled:
<snip cast list>
In order for people to communicate effectively, it usually helps if
they communicate in the same language. It seems that everybody in this
group is able to speak the same language, but you choose to speak a
different one (for some strange misguided reason I still fail to
understand[1]) and have provided a dictionary so that WE can translate
what YOU have to say. So, instead of 99% of this group spending it's
time translating your posts (which I for one will not be doing) don't
you think it would be more polite if you used a language that we ALL
speak?
[1] I'm sure I'm missing several posts in this debate due to my ISP,
but from what I've seen in follow-ups, I still can't understand your
arguments for confusing fiction with RL.
--
Barry Smith bazzas at btinternet.com
'It's not easy ... building Xanadu in the backstreets of Weatherfield.'
Dave Parker
>> > Name Alias
>> > ------------------- ---------------------
>> > BECK, Robert -, Peter
>
>> Peter PHELAN (Fi's Brother)
>
>I am not sure about this one. Is there not a confusion with Samuel
>Kane who has just been discarded by Claire Sweeney?
>Robert Beck was a rape suspect and lived at number Nine after his
>parents (his mother being head teacher at the local Comprehensive
>for a while) moved out of the area.
Yep, Sorry, I was looking quickly, and thought of the only Peter I
could think of - yes, you're right, I vaguely remember something like
that. Who did he live with?
>> > KEARNEY, Gillian -, -
>> Debby MCGRATH (Damon's Girlfriend when he was stabbed)
>
>Did she not have a child that was supported by Sue Johnston for a while?
Yes
>> > KERRIGAN, Patricia -, -
>> Unsure
Any ideas anyone?
>> > MAITLAND, Sandra -, -
>
>Sandra was Anna Friel's mother. She moved to Bristol to work in a
>Women's refuge after having a child with Michael Starke. Her daughter
>Tiffany Chapman sustained a failed marriage recently.
In that case, it's Mandy JORDACHE
>> > PEASGOOD, Julie -, Fran
>> Fran PEARSON (Mother of Barry's child)
>
>It is interesting that Julie Peasgood currently advertises Peas!
GOOD ones, at that!!
>> > PELKA, Kazia -, Anna
>> Anna WOLSKA
>
>Kazia, of course, has moved to Yorkshire (despite living in London
>as per a recnet Radio time article) and become a health visitor.
Driving a Landrover I note
Noone currently does the window cleaning - Tinhead had an attempt
after Sinbad's teachings, but soon gave that one up!
Dave Parker
>>Credits to Phil Redmond's "BROOKSIDE: The Official Companion" and
>>"BROOKSIDE: Life in the Close" for the above information, (just to
>>keep legal about this, if necessary)
>
>... and there was me thinking "This chap's got a bloody good memory!" :)
I do generally, but when you're digging in the past, and using
reference books as an aid, it's only polite to mention them in your
bibliography, isn't it?
Dave Parker
>Can I remember any of the names of the actors? Can I heck!! (Except
>Gabrielle Glaister = Patricia Farnham.)
Remember her as "BOB" in BlackAdder II - just digressing there, and I
know (before anyone says), Yes there IS a ng just for this info, but I
couldn't help it!!!
However, it will all come
>flooding back when someone posts them!!! (Like who was the original
>owner of the purple/maroon Cortina Mk 1
It was Frank Rogers
and his wife who was Bev's
>(Mother of Josh) Sister.
His wife was Chrissie, and she wasn't Bev's Sister. Bev's sister was
called Lyn, and she was Ron's first fling after DD and before Bev.
>Finally, finally... what about the "baddies" like S-s-s-izzler and Tommy
>McArdle?
Only just remember Sizzler (can't remember the actor's name), and T
McArdle has been mentioned in my previous posts.
Can we try to collate a full list of all Brookie's characters and
actors since November 2nd, 1982?????
Paul Baker
In article <34b8bf05...@news.demon.co.uk>, Dave Parker
<da...@horizon-solara.demon.co.uk> writes
>>flooding back when someone posts them!!! (Like who was the original
>>owner of the purple/maroon Cortina Mk 1
>
>It was Frank Rogers
>
> and his wife who was Bev's
>>(Mother of Josh) Sister.
>
>His wife was Chrissie, and she wasn't Bev's Sister. Bev's sister was
>called Lyn, and she was Ron's first fling after DD and before Bev.
I'd forgotton about Chrissie, but didn't she leave and Frank (I'd
forgotton his name) shacked up (for want of a better phrase) with Lyn
(whose name I'd also forgotton)
It just shows that I don't watch as much Brookie as I used to[*],
although having just re-read the thread, the Harrisons have been
mentioned. Were they in Alan's original list?
Oh, and Jean Crosbie (=? in real life) ............
* Or it could be that my memory's going :)
Dodgi
In article <34c0384e...@news.demon.co.uk>, Alberto Frog
<Albert...@infobiz.co.uk> writes
>Alan Rayner <al...@lightnet.co.uk> went in to the tunnels, armed with
>a special gun :
>
>>> What about the ORIGINAL Alan Partridge? He was in from the start, was
>>> a computer programmer, and was plated by Dickon Ashworth (I think).
>>> alberto frog
>>
>>I cannot confirm any of this but congratulations on the "typo".
>>
>>Any character would be proud to be "plated"!
>>
>>Does one have a choice of gold-plating or silver?
>
Is this the same Mr Logic who used to get a right good kicking for being
a smarmy know-it-all?!?
Just wondering
Vicki
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The message <9As3eLAp$Au0...@levante.demon.co.uk>
from Paul Baker <ne...@levante.demon.co.uk> contains these words:
> In article <199801101...@lightnet.co.uk>, Alan Rayner
> <al...@lightnet.co.uk> writes
> >Does anyone remember the major campaign on Merseyside in which the public
> >demanded the freedom from jail of one of the Brookside residents who was
> >"stitched up" for a crime that he did not commit?
> Yep, George Jackson (can't remember the actor's name.) The campaign
> wasn't just on Merseyside either....
> > FRIEL, Anna -, -
> Beth Jordache
> > KEARNEY, Gillian -, -
> Remind me someone, please!
> > KERRIGAN, Justine -, -
> Wasn't she a young Corkhill (Rod's little Sis? (Tracy)) Having said
> that is Rod in the list? ...and wasn't there a third Corkill kid.
> There are a few missing kids.... Karen Grant (if not above), Gordon
> Collins (who had two incarnations), Danny Simpson, The Dixon kid (Tony)
> that was killed by Jimmy Corkhill, Rod Corkhill's girlfriend(s) (The one
> from the chemist(? Diana something)
Diana Spence (Corkhill) played by Paula Frances.
and the other one (Kirsty)) Max
> Farnham's other kids (and Matthew & Emily)
Tony Dixon was played by 2 different actors (Gerard Bostock, then
Mark Lennock) as was Leo Johnston (Leeon Sawyer & ?) and Lucy Collins
(Katrin Cartlidge, Maggie Saunders then Katrin Cartlidge again)
>
> > MAITLAND, Sandra -, -
> The Jordache Mum (? Mandy) Trevor Jordache isn't in the list either.
Yes, Mandy Jordache.
> > O'BRIEN, Simon GRANT, Damien
> Wasn't it Damon? Have I missed Debbie in the list?
Yes it was Damon, What about Claire Grant ?
> Other names that spring to mind are Edna Cross, (?)Jonathon Gordon
> Davies (+ Girlfriend / wife (the one that fell down the stairs)), Matty
> Nolan's wife who jumped into the Mersey, Marie Jackson (and the kids),
> DD Dixon. Finally, the chap with the big glasses who was in Brookie
> around the time of Heather H. Can't remember anything about him but can
> picture him in my mind!!
> Can I remember any of the names of the actors? Can I heck!! (Except
> Gabrielle Glaister = Patricia Farnham.) However, it will all come
> flooding back when someone posts them!!! (Like who was the original
> owner of the purple/maroon Cortina Mk 1 and his wife who was Bev's
(Mother of Josh) Sister. Also Just remembered David (?) Yip (the
> chinese detective and his wife/girlfriend and Terry Sulivans's Dad
I beleive the original owner of the Cortina was Frank Rogers (Peter Christian)
> Finally, finally... what about the "baddies" like S-s-s-izzler and Tommy
> McArdle?
Tommy was played by Malcolm Tierney.
For anyone who is really bothered there is a full cast list (up to
about 1992) in the book "Brookside The First 10 Years"
Bazza
> ROTHWELL, Alan BLACK, -
Nick. Previously David Barlow in Coronation Street
Mark Machin
On Sun, 11 Jan 1998 01:09:41 GMT, Alan Rayner <al...@lightnet.co.uk>
wrote:
>Thank you Dave for this info which brings back fond memories.
>
>> > Name Alias
>> > ------------------- ---------------------
>> > BECK, Robert -, Peter
>
>> Peter PHELAN (Fi's Brother)
I think that's Sam Kane, and he lives with Linda Lusardi in his spare
time.
>> > PELKA, Kazia -, Anna
>> Anna WOLSKA
>
>Kazia, of course, has moved to Yorkshire (despite living in London
>as per a recnet Radio time article) and become a health visitor.
Not to mention time travel back to 1966(ish) with Nick Berry.
>> SPENDLOVE, Robert Roger HUNTINGDON
>Was he not the first one to live with Amanda Burton in Number nine?
He subsequently joined the Army and became the RSM of the Kings Own
Fusiliers until a year or so ago.
Tony Henshall
The message <199801111...@zetnet.co.uk>
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> > Finally, finally... what about the "baddies" like S-s-s-izzler and Tommy
> > McArdle?
> Tommy was played by Malcolm Tierney.
And Sizzler was played by Renny Krupinski. Now, what about Mad Eric?
(The guy who superglued his bald head to Terry's cab?) <grin>
For anyone who didn't know this amazing piece of trivia, he was
played by Andrew Tansey!
Cheers, Tony
Stephen Rose
Well, thanks for the list Alan, although this in no way alters the
fact that you are full of the brown stuff regarding your refusal
to use character names.
However, they are not alias names they are character names. There
are actors (these days generally used as a non-gender specific term
to denote males and females) and there are the parts they play:
the characters. Try and employ a few basic facts when writing in.
More below:
In article <199801101...@lightnet.co.uk>, Alan Rayner (al...@lightnet.co.uk) writes:
>There appears to be some interest expressed recently in associating
>actor names with their alias names.
>
>It is fascinating to note how easily names that were household
names only >a few years ago have slipped from the memory.
Although given the names you choose to use all the time they
probably never were household names (although the characters once
were, perhaps.) :-) :-)
>
>Does anyone remember the major campaign on Merseyside in which the public
>demanded the freedom from jail of one of the Brookside residents who was
>"stitched up" for a crime that he did not commit?
There you bloody well go again, do you mean the "free George Jackson
campaign"?? I don't know if it was (presumably you can't answer me
as you can't even bring yourself to mention character names in
conversation even. 'Yes, I believe it was said alias that you
mentioned on line 13 - 14') but the way you wrote that sounds
ridiculous and most POMPOUS.
head spear carrier
Stephen Rose
In article <34bba672...@news.btinternet.com>, Bazza (baz...@btinternet.nospam.com) writes:
>On Sat, 10 Jan 1998 19:18:27 GMT, Alan Rayner <al...@lightnet.co.uk>
>wibbled:
>
>
>In order for people to communicate effectively, it usually helps if
>they communicate in the same language. It seems that everybody in this
>group is able to speak the same language, but you choose to speak a
>different one (for some strange misguided reason I still fail to
>understand[1]) and have provided a dictionary so that WE can translate
>what YOU have to say. So, instead of 99% of this group spending it's
>time translating your posts (which I for one will not be doing) don't
>you think it would be more polite if you used a language that we ALL
>speak?
Well said, polite, to the point and precisely pinpointing the
problem.
>
>[1] I'm sure I'm missing several posts in this debate due to my ISP,
>but from what I've seen in follow-ups, I still can't understand your
>arguments for confusing fiction with RL.
You missed nothing that would invalidate the pertinancy of your
point.
As for Alan's arguments for deliberate confusion - they are
specious and thus belie understanding.
But I guess the problem now is Alan won't change cos' it is beyond
the rights and wrongs of his habit and more a case of "I have to
prove my point, stand my ground no matter how absurd ... shame
really.
Valentin
Stephen Rose
Someone asked if there was three Corkhill kids - no just Rod and
Trace. However, there was Sheila's young daughter Claire (was she
listed by anyone? sorry I couldn't read all the lists) - maybe you
were thinking of her as she lived in Billy Corkhill's house when
Sheila moved in with him (before they moved away.)
alias Baxter Basics
Stephen Rose
>It was Frank Rogers
>
> and his wife who was Bev's
>>(Mother of Josh) Sister.
>
>His wife was Chrissie, and she wasn't Bev's Sister. Bev's sister was
>called Lyn, and she was Ron's first fling after DD and before Bev.
Yes but Frank and Chrissie (mother of Katie, Sammi and a son Geoff
I think) split up. Frank got together with Lynn some time after the
split up. In fact he and Lyn got married and that is when a drug
crazed Jimmy Corkhill caused the fatal accident that killed Frank
and Tony Dixon. Jimmy was driving the other way on the road as
Frank drove the wedding roller to the reception. Lyn was just
pregnant by Frank and newly bereaved she entered a big 'will'
haggle, mainly led by the spiteful selfish Sammi. She lost the
baby. Bev, Lynn's younger sister, had caused the break up of
Lynn's first marriage by having an affair with her husband. She was
reknown for this sort of behaviour and she tried it on with Frank
- but he resisted, cos' he lurvved Lynn. Not surprising Bev got off
with Ron as he was an older man and still married, (albeit it
unhappily), and this was her predilection at the time. Ron's wife
of course was holy Dee-Dee.
I don't think Ron had a fling with Lyn did he? I thought it was with
Jackie Corkhill in the stock cupboard (this was like a dry run for
the 1996 fling), then Jackie backed out and wouldn't go for a
weekend to Southport (or wherever) then a few weeks later it was
Bev. on a dirty weekend with him.
second palm waver from left
Stephen Rose
>
>> Peter PHELAN (Fi's Brother)
>
>I am not sure about this one. Is there not a confusion with Samuel
>Kane who has just been discarded by Claire Sweeney?
>Robert Beck was a rape suspect and lived at number Nine after his
>parents (his mother being head teacher at the local Comprehensive
>for a while) moved out of the area.
You must mean peter Harrison. His dad (Geoff) went loopy for a while
and indulged in a spot of kleptomania, plus he punched the bathroom
window in.
>> Debby MCGRATH (Damon's Girlfriend when he was stabbed)
>
>Did she not have a child that was supported by Sue Johnston for a while?
Yes, well remembered - Debbie used to visit SHEILA GRANT with said
child. Was it a boy or girl - did she call him (if it was) Damon,
in memory of poor young Damon??
>Sandra was Anna Friel's mother. She moved to Bristol to work in a
>Women's refuge after having a child with Michael Starke. Her daughter
>Tiffany Chapman sustained a failed marriage recently.
No Sandra wasn't Anna Friel's mum - if someone is a mum, they stay
a mum, you can't say 'was a mum'. I believe Anna Friel's mum is a
Mrs. Friel, she certainly didn't appear in Brookside.
Sandra didn't move to Bristol to work in a women's refuge.
However, Mandy Jordache did in the story.
Interestingly you insist on using actor names and not fictional
names yet you will allow yourself to mention fictional places that
people go to... ie the women's refuge that Sandra went to doesn't
exist - Sandra went to get more acting work.
Incidentally, who
>does the window cleaning nowadays. Have they all followed the example
>of Louis Emerick and taken to doing it themselves?
Dunno - but he (mick) isn't very good is he, he breaks the glass -
should call him what? no can't think of a nickname. Freshair?
Stephen Rose
Hurray - the voice of reason. :-) I refer to Jocelyn's post,
lest there be any confusion.
In article <B0DF2101...@wardle.demon.co.uk>, Jocelyn Lavin (joc...@wardle.demon.co.uk) writes:
>In article <199801110...@lightnet.co.uk>,
>Alan Rayner <al...@lightnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>> > MAITLAND, Sandra -, -
>>
>>Sandra was Anna Friel's mother. She moved to Bristol to work in a
>>Women's refuge after having a child with Michael Starke. Her daughter
>>Tiffany Chapman sustained a failed marriage recently.
>
>Oh, come on, this is getting ridiculous. Sandra Maitland isn't Anna Friel's
>mother - I *work* with Anna Friel's mother, and this statement was just the
>last straw for me. I fail to see, despite reading all your arguments, why
>you persist in your absurd practice of using actor names. I'm sure the
>actors themselves would be the first to say that they do *not* want people
>to think that they behave like their characters - but it would be very easy
>for someone reading your posts to get that impression. For example:
>
>>Kazia, of course, has moved to Yorkshire (despite living in London
>>as per a recnet Radio time article) and become a health visitor.
>
>I have no idea whether you mean the actress or the character here - if it
>*is* the character, then it's surely a disservice to the actress to give
>the impression that she's no longer an actress!
>
<snip>
Jocelyn Lavin
>> > MAITLAND, Sandra -, -
>
>Sandra was Anna Friel's mother. She moved to Bristol to work in a
>Women's refuge after having a child with Michael Starke. Her daughter
>Tiffany Chapman sustained a failed marriage recently.
Oh, come on, this is getting ridiculous. Sandra Maitland isn't Anna Friel's
mother - I *work* with Anna Friel's mother, and this statement was just the
last straw for me. I fail to see, despite reading all your arguments, why
you persist in your absurd practice of using actor names. I'm sure the
actors themselves would be the first to say that they do *not* want people
to think that they behave like their characters - but it would be very easy
for someone reading your posts to get that impression. For example:
>Kazia, of course, has moved to Yorkshire (despite living in London
>as per a recnet Radio time article) and become a health visitor.
I have no idea whether you mean the actress or the character here - if it
*is* the character, then it's surely a disservice to the actress to give
the impression that she's no longer an actress!
I agree wholeheartedly with the poster who pointed out that you expect *us*
to learn your "language" and have helpfully provided a "dictionary". Yes,
your posts are interesting, but it's too much effort to read them. I tend
to start reading them and almost immediately think "oh, no, it's that bloke
again". Personally, I read newsgroups for entertainment and relaxation as
well as information. I've tried for some weeks now to ignore what you're
doing - but life's too short. I really can't imagine why you find it
necessary to irritate *everyone* who reads this newsgroup (correct me if
I'm wrong, but I don't recall seeing any comment agreeing with you). Enough
is enough. You're in my killfile.
Ann McLaren
Jocelyn Lavin wrote:
snip
Yes,
> your posts are interesting, but it's too much effort to read them. I tend
> to start reading them and almost immediately think "oh, no, it's that bloke
> again". Personally, I read newsgroups for entertainment and relaxation as
> well as information. I've tried for some weeks now to ignore what you're
> doing - but life's too short. I really can't imagine why you find it
> necessary to irritate *everyone* who reads this newsgroup (correct me if
> I'm wrong, but I don't recall seeing any comment agreeing with you). Enough
> is enough. You're in my killfile.
Well said! I tried asking him nicely but he clearly isn't to be budged.
On the contrary I suspect he's gaining some sort of perverse pleasure
from this. I see no point in flogging a dead horse and am interested in
this killfile you and someone else mentioned. Off topic I know but could
anyone post instructions as to how to set up a killfile if it's not too
complicated.
Ann
Mark Whidby
In article <9As3eLAp$Au0...@levante.demon.co.uk>, Paul Baker> <al...@lightnet.co.uk> writes
> > KEARNEY, Gillian -, -
> Wasn't it Damon? Have I missed Debbie in the list?
You've reminded yourself - Gillian Kearney played Debbie.
--
Mark Whidby, Manchester Computing
Martin Evans
test
Apologies if this upsets regular subscribers here but Mr Rayner is
really getting on my t*ts. He's in my kill file now (only the third
person i've had to do that ever in uk.media.tv.brookside) I have a
feeling that he's just here to wind us all up, and judging by the
number of postings in other newsgroups he has a lot of time on his
hands....
......just look at what Dejanews turns up in just over 2 months of
posting (no record exists of him before November 97...unless he's
changed email address).
Author: al...@lightnet.co.uk
286 unique articles posted.
Number of articles posted to individual newsgroups (slightly
skewed by cross-postings):
98 soc.religion.quaker
60 alt.usage.english
37 uk.media.tv.brookside
35 uk.politics.electoral
33 soc.culture.yugoslavia
12 uk.local.nw-england
3 alt.beograd
2 alt.astrology
2 alt.brain.teasers
2 alt.divination
2 alt.missing-adults
If you have anything constructive to say Mr Rayner, you've blown any
chance of me and a lot of other readers in here listening to it.
...forever
Hoping for a quieter and more civilised discussion in
uk.media.tv.brookside
Followups set to alt.test
Mike Hatton
In article <34b8bf05...@news.demon.co.uk>,
Dave Parker <da...@horizon-solara.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> His wife was Chrissie, and she wasn't Bev's Sister. Bev's sister was
> called Lyn, and she was Ron's first fling after DD and before Bev.
Right ... and wrong.
Yes, Chrissie was Frank Rogers' first wife. But Lyn was Frank Roger's
second wife. Frank died on their wedding day as he was driving the posh
wedding car ... Frank swerved to avoid an a drug-crazed Jimmy Corkhill in
an oncoming car.
I don't recall Ron having any relationship with Lyn. Lyn met Frank after
her first husband died doing a lorry-driving run in place of Frank. Frank
"comforted" her following her loss ...
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Paul Baker
In article <14...@rose.win-uk.net>, Stephen Rose <wr...@rose.win-uk.net>
writes
>
>Hurray - the voice of reason. :-) I refer to Jocelyn's post,
>lest there be any confusion.
I must say thet this thread has degenerated into something rather silly,
hasn't it? I thought that it may be a discussion of our memories of
past characters, which indeed it could have been, had the actors' real
names not got in the way. Having said that there's no reason why anyone
has to mention the real names. I certainly don't attempt to remember
the credits and certainly don't have the book :)
Mark Evans
Stephen Rose (wr...@rose.win-uk.net) wrote:
:
: >There appears to be some interest expressed recently in associating
: >actor names with their alias names.
:
: >
: >It is fascinating to note how easily names that were household
: names only >a few years ago have slipped from the memory.
:
: Although given the names you choose to use all the time they
: probably never were household names (although the characters once
: were, perhaps.) :-) :-)
It's probably a rare actor who wants their own name to be better
known that their character name... Certainly when they play
a character in a soap.
Dave D
Errr actually I find Alan's postings funny informative and I even agree
with them a lot of the time (I've actually posted to this effect )...get off
the bandwagon, it's only a newsgroup!
Dave D
Hello group,correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't sssssizzler played by Gary
Oldman (now of Hollywood fame) ? This is a genuine comment. My friends and I
have been musing over this for many years and it has now been passed into
fact that ssssssizzler was Gary Oldman!
Comments anyone?
dodg...@emobile.co.uk (mobile...keep it brief!)
dav...@diamond.co.uk
Tony Henshall
The message <69ov8g$1...@news5-gui.server.cableol.net>
from "Dave D" <dav...@diamond.co.uk> contains these words:
> Hello group,correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't sssssizzler played by Gary
> Oldman (now of Hollywood fame) ? This is a genuine comment. My friends and I
> have been musing over this for many years and it has now been passed into
> fact that ssssssizzler was Gary Oldman!
Nope, it was definitely Renny Krupinski.
Cheers, Tony
Dave D
Thanks for that Tony...now I'm going to have to think of more "did you know
that Gary Oldman played a part in Brookside?" type things to tell amazed
friends!
Dave dodg...@emobile.co.uk
Colin Mann
S-s-sizzler was played by Renny Krupinski, but I agree there is a
resemblance.
Colin
Stephen Rose
In article <69ov8g$1...@news5-gui.server.cableol.net>, "Dave D" (dav...@diamond.co.uk) writes:
<snip> wasn't sssssizzler played by Gary
>Oldman (now of Hollywood fame) ?
TTTTTT-total ccccccc-cccrap....
Sizzler was played by some arsehole of an actor who thought he was
"IT" cos' he had a bit part in Brookie. I remember having the
misfortune to encounter him ... and he definitelt wasn't called
Gary .. who he actually was I neither know or care....zzzz!
Steve Jones
Dave D wrote:
>
> Errr actually I find Alan's postings funny informative and I even agree
> I see his postings in several other newsgroups, he is always so politically correct, and such a goodie two shoes, I find him a bit
of a naus