Dogs in Brookside/Antichrist Murray
tayl...@my-deja.com
New family arrives on the Close with kids + dog. After just a day or
two, dog gets killed and youngest kid bursts into tears.
Mind you it's slightly different this time. Emily Shadwick may be a
little minx, but that new Murray kid is quite clearly the antichrist.
Keep a close watch on him - I'm sure his eyes will glow red like little
Damion on Fools and Horses, LOL!
Paul
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Before you buy.
Mark
3 have been run over on the close
Ralph Hardwick's dog Rommel
Jimmy Corkhill's beloved Cracker
And now the murray's dog.
Of course the shadwick's dog Candy was killed in the gas explosion.
The close isn't safe for dogs.
Mark
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"Mark" <Marks...@pathways92.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
> That's 4 dogs what have met an untimely demise in Brookside.
> 3 have been run over on the close
> Ralph Hardwick's dog Rommel
> Jimmy Corkhill's beloved Cracker
> And now the murray's dog.
>
> Of course the shadwick's dog Candy was killed in the gas explosion.
>
> The close isn't safe for dogs.
>
> Mark
>
Not to mention Jackie Corkhill's cat, who took a bullet through their
front window that was meant for Jimmy and Fudge, the hamster, who
survived an eye infection and ritual sacrifice to disappear forever.
As for the youngest Murray kid, well, Brookie has always had a resident
Catholic or two - Sheila Grant, DD Dixon, stroppy Emma who almost
married Barry Grant, the Muzzies were Catholic and for some reason I
seem to remember Jess Shadwick is Catholic (hence the immense guilt
over her youthful abortion). But this kid is plain wierd. I don't know
what sort of statement the writers/producers are trying to make here,
but if it's anti-Catholic, it's offensive and disturbing and if it's
just a pathetic attempt at humour, it falls flat.
The child doesn't go to a Catholic school, so one assumes that the step-
mother/father in this instance is a bit in the DD mould. Also the
Murray girl's mutilation of the poster of St. Sebastian with *God is
Dead* and like sentiments on the older brother's boxing poster calls
her mental state into question.
Louisa Hennessy
writes:
>The child doesn't go to a Catholic school, so one assumes that the step-
>mother/father in this instance is a bit in the DD mould.
Maybe there isn't one close enough.
Also the
>Murray girl's mutilation of the poster of St. Sebastian with *God is
>Dead* and like sentiments on the older brother's boxing poster calls
>her mental state into question.
It sounds like a normal young teenage girl's retaliation against two irritating
brothers to me.
--
Louisa Hennessy
Essex, England, Europe
coli...@cix.compulink.co.uk
Marks...@pathways92.freeserve.co.uk (Mark) wrote:
> That's 4 dogs what have met an untimely demise in Brookside.
> 3 have been run over on the close
> Ralph Hardwick's dog Rommel
> Jimmy Corkhill's beloved Cracker
> And now the murray's dog.
> Plus Paul Collins' dog 'Lucky'!
> Of course the shadwick's dog Candy was killed in the gas explosion.
>
> The close isn't safe for dogs.
>
> Mark
>
Gareth
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> The child doesn't go to a Catholic school, so one assumes that the step-
> mother/father in this instance is a bit in the DD mould. Also the
> Murray girl's mutilation of the poster of St. Sebastian with *God is
> Dead* and like sentiments on the older brother's boxing poster calls
> her mental state into question.
Well hardly Thomas Mann nor, pace Weber, a comment on Entzauberung Der Welt
(or something like that) - more bad old fashioned histrionics in the Sinead
O'Connor school of hysteria.
One of the issues Brookie hasn't tackled - afaik - is severe and enduring
mental illness (ignoring the return of Harry Cross). Maybe an opportunity to
get acquanited with a mad person?
Also, I imagine that it's just too much hastle boarding and caring for a dog
on set on anything approaching a permanent basis. Eastenders seems to be the
odd one out in respect of using regular animal cast members.
Gareth.
Gareth.
eagl...@marirob.netlineuk.net
louisah...@aol.com (Louisa Hennessy) wrote:
> In article <8ct40u$d22$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, eagle-
e...@marirob.netlineuk.net
> writes:
>
> >The child doesn't go to a Catholic school, so one assumes that the
step-
> >mother/father in this instance is a bit in the DD mould.
>
>
I would say that it's a fair estimation, given the geography and
history of Liverpool, that - of all the provincial cities in ENGLAND,
Liverpool probably has the highest proportion of Catholics. I even
believe that there are still a few areas in Liverpool where the old
*troubles* still exist. And until around the 1970's, the two major
footie teams in the city had followings that were distinctly Protestant
(Everton) and distinctly Catholic (Liverpool).
Therefore, I would venture to say that in a city like Liverpool, with a
large percentage of its population claiming first or second generation
Irish descent, that one wouldn't have to go far to find a Catholic
primary or secondary school. I live on the South Coast of Kent. Two of
my three kids attend the local Catholic school, five miles from my
house, as opposed to a fifteen-minute walk to the local primary - not
because I was raised in the faith, myself, but because the school they
attend had a very good scholastic record. My oldest goes to the girls'
grammar, six miles away, for the same reason, as opposed to the local
comprehensive, which is three miles. In her situation, there are
children who attend from as far away as a twelve mile radius - so if
the Murrays were intent on sending their children to a Catholic school,
it wouldn't be too difficult to find one close enough to their home.
I must say that I found Bernie Nolan's character's tale of her Catholic
secondary school experience more apropos to the late 50's or early 60's
that the time when she would have attended. She is supposed to be 39,
which would have meant her attending secondary school in the mid- to
late-Seventies. Yet her version of the incident with the nun smacks of
1950's stereotypical Catholic schools. Not only that, it was also
rather offensive to Catholics, and Irish Catholics in particular - as
stereotypical as leprechauns on St. Patrick's Day and the very bad
impression given by EE on their jaunt to Ireland three years ago.
Also, just exactly WHO in the Murray household, apart from Anthony and
Diane, are Catholic? Diane has been married to Marty for 6 years, which
would have made the youngest child little more than a toddler. As Marty
is divorced, presumably (and how would a devout and practising Catholic
have reconciled that?), Diane may have been responsible for the
religious up-bringing of the youngest child. Last night's footie
episode supposedly took place on a Sunday and was an all-dayish affair.
The youngest was *on the altar* for morning Mass, then was spending the
rest of the day with his Nan (the first of many childhood non-
appearances, that's a new one from being in his room). Unless the
family went to VERY early Mass or went to the Saturday evening service
(which constitutes Sunday attendance), they don't appear to be very
devout, apart from the kid.
> Also the
> >Murray girl's mutilation of the poster of St. Sebastian with *God is
> >Dead* and like sentiments on the older brother's boxing poster calls
> >her mental state into question.
>
> It sounds like a normal young teenage girl's retaliation against two
irritating
> brothers to me.
As a mother, don't you teach your kids to have respect for other
people's property? And this teaching of that principle begins at home,
with siblings. Wanton destruction of a brother's or sister's property
might be the result of a temper tantrum thrown by a five-year-old, but
it's reprehensible in an older child.
I remember the episode, and I don't remember either boy being
particularly irritating to the girl. Obviously the religious poster
meant a lot to the little boy, and it would have been both cruel and
disturbing to a child that young to have read the particular message
inscribed on the poster. As far as the older brother's boxing poster -
it may have been a cheap memento or it may have actually been a
collectors' item of sorts - and for her to have destroyed it as such
for no obvious reason was both immature and cruel.
I have an 11- and a 9-year-old, both of whom are getting on each
other's nerves at the moment; but both know better than to destroy or
mutilate any item of property belonging to the other, however big the
fit of pique. To simply dismiss this as an act of rebellion against
irritating siblings makes one wonder how the kid would rebel against
parental authority, public authority, academic authority.
And no, sorry, Adele is NOT normal. Nor is she intended to be perceived
as normal - at least not by Brookside standards. (A) she's a
stereotypical swot - reading Dickens, wearing glasses, Granny Goodwitch
hairstyle. Look what happened to previous swots on Brookside - Beth
Jordache and Sammy Rogers - which means she's in for a grilling. (B)
She's an Emily fan, which means a potential willing accomplice for the
future. I give it a maximum of 6, minimum of 3 months before she's let
her hair down, donned contacts, Wonderbra and lycra dress to wreak
havoc on the programme.
>
> --
> Louisa Hennessy
> Essex, England, Europe
>
eagl...@marirob.netlineuk.net
"Gareth" <nospam_so...@gjd398.com> wrote:
>
> <eagl...@marirob.netlineuk.net> wrote in message
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>
step-
> > Murray girl's mutilation of the poster of St. Sebastian with *God is
> > Dead* and like sentiments on the older brother's boxing poster calls
> > her mental state into question.
>
Der Welt
> (or something like that) - more bad old fashioned histrionics in the
Sinead
> O'Connor school of hysteria.
>
> One of the issues Brookie hasn't tackled - afaik - is severe and
enduring
> mental illness (ignoring the return of Harry Cross). Maybe an
opportunity to
> get acquanited with a mad person?
>
Er, that's what the writers are attempting to do with Jimmy at the
moment - but yes, I would have said that Adele, or even Emily, are
better candidates for the men in little white coats.
> Also, I imagine that it's just too much hastle boarding and caring
for a dog
> on set on anything approaching a permanent basis. Eastenders seems to
be the
> odd one out in respect of using regular animal cast members.
>
> Gareth.
>
> Gareth.
>
>
Ian Clarke
<eagl...@marirob.netlineuk.net> wrote in message
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> In article <20000410163528...@nso-bk.aol.com>,
>
> And until around the 1970's, the two major
> footie teams in the city had followings that were distinctly Protestant
> (Everton) and distinctly Catholic (Liverpool).
Other way around.
White Shite
>rather offensive to Catholics, and Irish Catholics in particular - as
>stereotypical as leprechauns on St. Patrick's Day and the very bad
>impression given by EE on their jaunt to Ireland three years ago.
Brookside used to be praised for realism and real issues. The recent
outdated view of the Catholic church in Brookside (together with the yuppies
eating nouvelle cuisine and Charbonais) shows that Brookside is now out of
touch to the point where a good place to start saving the series would be
taking a look at the real world again.
>The youngest was *on the altar* for morning Mass,
If only he was "on the altar" as a sacrifice in a pentangle. That would have
been fun to watch, would bring another well-known celebrity (the devil) into
the show to boost viewing figures and remove another far-fetched character
at the same time.
(A) she's a
>stereotypical swot - reading Dickens, wearing glasses, Granny Goodwitch
>hairstyle.
Why don't soaps ever try to portray teenagers as characters instead of
cliched cardboard cutouts? The other teenager (who is a teenage boy thus is
into cars and sport because all teenage boys are into cars and sport) is no
less unimaginitive and patronizing.
White Shite
var...@cableinet.co.uk
eagl...@marirob.netlineuk.net
"Ian Clarke" <ianc...@cableinet.co.uk> wrote:
>
> <eagl...@marirob.netlineuk.net> wrote in message
> news:8d16r7$m6t$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> > In article <20000410163528...@nso-bk.aol.com>,
> >
> > footie teams in the city had followings that were distinctly
Protestant
> > (Everton) and distinctly Catholic (Liverpool).
>
>
>
Thanks for the info. My mistake - I got this info from my husband who
is Protestant and has supported Everton since the 60's. Guess it's
really not as stringent a divide as the Rangers-Celtic scenario, as I
worked with a bloke in the 80's in London, who was from Liverpool,
Catholic and an Everton supporter (along with his dad), whilst his
brother supported the Reds. On Brookie, Ron Dikko and Jimmy Corkhill
are blues, but Ron's late son Tony was supposedly a fanatical Liverpool
supporter.
eagl...@marirob.netlineuk.net
"White Shite" <var...@cableinet.co.uk> wrote:
> Not only that, it was also
> >rather offensive to Catholics, and Irish Catholics in particular - as
> >stereotypical as leprechauns on St. Patrick's Day and the very bad
> >impression given by EE on their jaunt to Ireland three years ago.
>
> outdated view of the Catholic church in Brookside (together with the
yuppies
> eating nouvelle cuisine and Charbonais) shows that Brookside is now
out of
> touch to the point where a good place to start saving the series
would be
> taking a look at the real world again.
>
The best thing for the producers to do now is to just stop ALL
production and broadcast for 6 months and go back to the drawing board
with this programme. On the Brookside website, Paul Marquess made an
abject point of saying that the programme was seeking to retain and
draw back all the faithful viewers it had managed to lose in the past
two years. How is he doing it? By throwing no less than NINE storylines
at us, all of which are going round and round in ever decreasing
circles, with the only one ever progressing being that of the actress
he fancies.
But it hasn't only been Brookside to indulge in stereotypical
portrayals - EE can be just as bad, with their infamous trip to
Ireland; and when the DiMarcos arrived, the only one who wasn't
shouting at the top of his voice, waving his arms around in a bad
imitation of a stereotype Italian and generally mispronouncing their
own characters' names was the only true Italian of the bunch (and the
only one who is staying on the show) -Michael Grecco (Beppe).
> >The youngest was *on the altar* for morning Mass,
>
> If only he was "on the altar" as a sacrifice in a pentangle. That
would have
> been fun to watch, would bring another well-known celebrity (the
devil) into
> the show to boost viewing figures and remove another far-fetched
character
> at the same time.
>
LOL! Good one!
> (A) she's a
> >stereotypical swot - reading Dickens, wearing glasses, Granny
Goodwitch
> >hairstyle.
>
> Why don't soaps ever try to portray teenagers as characters instead of
> cliched cardboard cutouts? The other teenager (who is a teenage boy
thus is
> into cars and sport because all teenage boys are into cars and sport)
is no
> less unimaginitive and patronizing.
>
EE too ... Martin the angry young man, Janine the tearaway, smirking,
smarmy, flirty Nikki and swotty, spotty, plainjane Sonia (the best
actress of the bunch!).
> White Shite
> var...@cableinet.co.uk
JNugent
>> >The child doesn't go to a Catholic school, so one assumes that the
>> >step- mother/father in this instance is a bit in the DD mould.
>> Maybe there isn't one close enough.
>I would say that it's a fair estimation, given the geography and
>history of Liverpool, that - of all the provincial cities in ENGLAND,
>Liverpool probably has the highest proportion of Catholics.
That's possibly true.
>I even
>believe that there are still a few areas in Liverpool where the old
>*troubles* still exist.
That is NOT true. Liverpudlians are too intelligent for that.
>And until around the 1970's, the two major
>footie teams in the city had followings that were distinctly Protestant
>(Everton) and distinctly Catholic (Liverpool).
That's true, but that split is growing less distinct all the time and for all intents and purposes
may already be history.
>Therefore, I would venture to say that in a city like Liverpool, with a
>large percentage of its population claiming first or second generation
>Irish descent, that one wouldn't have to go far to find a Catholic
>primary or secondary school.
That is true. Let's face it, the reason why the Murray children are written as going to a County
(non-Catholic)school is so that they can interact with other characters in the programme. It's
called "dramtic licence". In real life, most Catholic children in Liverpool go to Catholic schools,
but this isn't real life - it's fiction...
It's happened before - the Grant children went to the local (non-Catholic) comp too.
[snip]
>Also, just exactly WHO in the Murray household, apart from Anthony and
>Diane, are Catholic? Diane has been married to Marty for 6 years, which
>would have made the youngest child little more than a toddler. As Marty
>is divorced, presumably (and how would a devout and practising Catholic
>have reconciled that?), Diane may have been responsible for the
>religious up-bringing of the youngest child. Last night's footie
>episode supposedly took place on a Sunday and was an all-dayish affair.
>The youngest was *on the altar* for morning Mass, then was spending the
>rest of the day with his Nan (the first of many childhood non-
>appearances, that's a new one from being in his room). Unless the
>family went to VERY early Mass or went to the Saturday evening service
>(which constitutes Sunday attendance), they don't appear to be very
>devout, apart from the kid.
The fact that the father of the family is re-married at all (within a devout Catholic family)
should (I stress: *should*) mean that he is a widower.
Suzanne Stockton
> From: eagl...@marirob.netlineuk.net
> Organization: Deja.com - Before you buy.
> Newsgroups: uk.media.tv.brookside
> Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 06:58:53 GMT
> Subject: Re: Dogs in Brookside/Antichrist Murray
>
>
>>> The child doesn't go to a Catholic school, so one assumes that the
> step-
>>> mother/father in this instance is a bit in the DD mould.
>>
>> Maybe there isn't one close enough.
>>
> How smug you are.
and how charming you are
Suzanne
graeme...@virgin.net
<8d2e0o$304$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
>On Brookie, Ron Dikko and Jimmy Corkhill
>are blues, but Ron's late son Tony was supposedly a fanatical Liverpool
>supporter.
Ah yes, and do you remember the spats between Damon Grant and Rod
Corkhill over this subject?
Gray.
graeme...@virgin.net
eagl...@marirob.netlineuk.net wrote in message
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>The best thing for the producers to do now is to just stop ALL
>production and broadcast for 6 months and go back to the drawing board
>with this programme.
And lose the viewers who do still watch? Not to mention the cast...
(well, some of them, anyway!). I don't agree with you on this one,
Marion. This would the worst thing that they could do.
Gray.
Ian Clarke
<eagl...@marirob.netlineuk.net> wrote in message
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> In article <V6XI4.2067$484....@news3.cableinet.net>,
> On Brookie, Ron Dikko and Jimmy Corkhill
> are blues, but Ron's late son Tony was supposedly a fanatical Liverpool
> supporter.
Ron is a Protestant, DD a Catholic. The Corkhills (certainly on
Billy/Jimmy's side ) are Protestants. Tony used to wear a Liverpool/Celtic
bob cap. I just don't think Redmond & co have thought that side of things
out.
Ian Clarke
JNugent <JNu...@AC30.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> >I even
> >believe that there are still a few areas in Liverpool where the old
> >*troubles* still exist.
>
> That is NOT true. Liverpudlians are too intelligent for that.
Oh yes so much more intelligent than all of us stupid Ulster/Irish people or
Scots??????? Don't be so self righteous and superior.
JNugent
>JNugent <JNu...@AC30.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>> >I even believe that there are still a few areas in Liverpool where
>> >the old *troubles* still exist.
>> That is NOT true. Liverpudlians are too intelligent for that.
>Oh yes so much more intelligent than all of us stupid Ulster/Irish people or
>Scots??????? Don't be so self righteous and superior.
Sorry Pal (that's how we speak...). You can't argue with the facts. There are no religious
"troubles" in Liverpool. Though it is possible to come across heated debate about proddy dogs and
left-footers, this is generally good-natured and does not amount to "trouble".
I've been to Belfast and environs lots of times. The vast majority of Ulstermen and women are too
intelligent for "trouble" too, though you'd never know it from the media coverage.
I'm not aware of any sectarian "troubles" in Scotland. Not religious "troubles" anyway, just the
usual football aggro.
Suzanne Stockton
nicest places!) as a student, and there was the usual graffiti, and there
are some pubs that are no-go areas for one "side" or the other, plus Orange
marches in June/July (very noisy).
Suzanne
> From: "JNugent" <JNu...@AC30.freeserve.co.uk>
> Organization: Customer of Planet Online
> Newsgroups: uk.media.tv.brookside
> Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 00:51:09 +0100
> Subject: Re: Dogs in Brookside/Antichrist Murray
>
Ian Clarke
>
> Sorry Pal (that's how we speak...). You can't argue with the facts. There
are no religious
> "troubles" in Liverpool. Though it is possible to come across heated
debate about proddy dogs and
> left-footers, this is generally good-natured and does not amount to
"trouble".
>
> I've been to Belfast and environs lots of times. The vast majority of
Ulstermen and women are too
> intelligent for "trouble" too, though you'd never know it from the media
coverage.
>
"troubles" anyway, just the
> usual football aggro.
Then you should get out more.
Ian Clarke
JNugent <JNu...@AC30.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> Sorry Pal (that's how we speak...). You can't argue with the facts. There
are no religious
> "troubles" in Liverpool. Though it is possible to come across heated
debate about proddy dogs and
> left-footers, this is generally good-natured and does not amount to
"trouble".
There are no RELIGIOUS "troubles in Belfast either. There is a
constitutional issue over nationality which is largely split along sectarian
lines and which has led to our squalid little terrorist of the last 30
years. The reason why your heated debate in Liverpool never degenerates into
what you simplistically describe as "troubles" is because the constitutional
position of Liverpool within the UK is not under question. It is NOT because
of some innate greater intelligence as you seem to believe. I have known a
number of Liverpudlians over the years. Some were very intelligent, some
were thick as bricks and most were pretty average. A bit like the rest of us
really.
> I'm not aware of any sectarian "troubles" in Scotland. Not religious
"troubles" anyway, just the
> usual football aggro.
Then you should get out in Scotland a bit more. It's there. Maybe a little
further under the surface than in Ulster but nevertheless it's there.
IC
Ian Clarke
JNugent
>> From: "JNugent" <JNu...@AC30.freeserve.co.uk>
>> I'm not aware of any sectarian "troubles" in Scotland. Not religious
>> "troubles" anyway, just the
>> usual football aggro.
>There's a bit on the West Coast. I lived in Ibrox and Parkhead ( I pick the
>nicest places!) as a student, and there was the usual graffiti, and there
>are some pubs that are no-go areas for one "side" or the other, plus Orange
>marches in June/July (very noisy).
Oh, we always had the Orange marches in Liverpool - I lived on one of the main marching routes as a
boy, and even as a Catholic, would wave from the house to my Anglican friends in the Orange parade.
JNugent
>There are no RELIGIOUS "troubles in Belfast either. There is a
>constitutional issue over nationality which is largely split along sectarian
>lines and which has led to our squalid little terrorist of the last 30
>years. The reason why your heated debate in Liverpool never degenerates into
>what you simplistically describe as "troubles" is because the constitutional
>position of Liverpool within the UK is not under question. It is NOT because
>of some innate greater intelligence as you seem to believe. I have known a
>number of Liverpudlians over the years. Some were very intelligent, some
>were thick as bricks and most were pretty average. A bit like the rest of us
>really.
Sorry... which of us is the one who should "get out more"?
Terry
> Sorry... which of us is the one who should "get out more"?
I think he was suggesting that both you and Suzanne Stockton should 'get
out more'! It's very nice of him to be concerned about your social
lives, isn't it? Maybe you should go out together. Perhaps he'll pay.
Terry
Claire
JNugent wrote in message
> Suzanne Stockton wrote in message ...
>
> >> From: "JNugent" <JNu...@AC30.freeserve.co.uk>
>
> >> I'm not aware of any sectarian "troubles" in Scotland. Not
religious
> >> "troubles" anyway, just the
> >> usual football aggro.
>
> >There's a bit on the West Coast. I lived in Ibrox and Parkhead ( I
pick the
> >nicest places!) as a student, and there was the usual graffiti, and
there
> >are some pubs that are no-go areas for one "side" or the other,
plus Orange
> >marches in June/July (very noisy).
12th July
> Oh, we always had the Orange marches in Liverpool - I lived on one
of the main marching routes as a
> boy, and even as a Catholic, would wave from the house to my
Anglican friends in the Orange parade.
Where I live in Ulster, Catholics come out and watch the Orange
parades.
Claire
Jacqueline
can we not discuss it on this newsgroup as I've heard about it my whole
life.
Jacqueline
Suzanne Stockton wrote in message ...
>There's a bit on the West Coast. I lived in Ibrox and Parkhead ( I pick the
>nicest places!) as a student, and there was the usual graffiti, and there
>are some pubs that are no-go areas for one "side" or the other, plus Orange
>marches in June/July (very noisy).
>
>Suzanne
>
>> From: "JNugent" <JNu...@AC30.freeserve.co.uk>
>> Organization: Customer of Planet Online
>> Newsgroups: uk.media.tv.brookside
>> Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 00:51:09 +0100
>> Subject: Re: Dogs in Brookside/Antichrist Murray
>>
Ian Clarke
Terry <tb...@x-stream.co.uk> wrote in message
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> I think he was suggesting that both you and Suzanne Stockton should 'get
> out more'! It's very nice of him to be concerned about your social
> lives, isn't it? Maybe you should go out together. Perhaps he'll pay.
>
Was this an attempt at humour????? It's hard to tell with it not being
funny. For your information Suzanne Stockton didn't say anything wrong, she
simply mentioned her experience on the West of Scotland. JNugent in=implied
that Liverpudlians had a greater level of intelligence than Ulster people.
We've seen little evidence of it so far.
JNugent
>Terry <tb...@x-stream.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:8d5oj4$fn5$1...@supernews.com...
I "in-implied" nothing of the sort. I didn't even mention Northern Ireland (not "Ulster", which
province lies partly within the Republic, of course) until you did.
Gary
>
>It's happened before - the Grant children went to the local
(non-Catholic) comp too.
Are you sure? I seem to recall that in the very early days Karen
& Damon Grant went to a Catholic comp and Lucy Collins to
Brookside Comp
>The fact that the father of the family is re-married at all
(within a devout Catholic family)
>should (I stress: *should*) mean that he is a widower.
>
During the heart to heart between Diane and Adele in the football
pavilion this week Adele said that no-one knew where her mother
was. This implies:
* either she's in heaven/hell/purgatory!
* or (more likely) she has disappeared and probably still alive.
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Ian Clarke
>West of Scotland. JNugent implied
> >that Liverpudlians had a greater level of intelligence than Ulster
people.
(not "Ulster", which
> province lies partly within the Republic, of course) until you did.
Yes you did. Your original quote was "Liverpudlians are too intelligent for
that" which implies that anyone who still has those kind of troubles is
somehow less intelligent. That was my point and I stand over it.
Terry
intelligent for
> that" which implies that anyone who still has those kind of troubles
is
> somehow less intelligent. That was my point and I stand over it.
For God's sake give it a rest. I'm sure we don't want to see another
flame war starting over religious strife, the Irish troubles and the
pros and cons of the Reformation. If you read Nugent's original post he
states that he has been to N. Ireland and found the vast majority of
people there too intelligent for trouble as well, and they have just
been badly portrayed in the media. Knowing scousers well I suspect that
his comment about Liverpudlians being 'too intelligent' was made with
his tongue very firmly in his cheek!
There's enough off topic rubbish here already, so let's just talk about
Brookside! Thank you.
JNugent
>>It's happened before - the Grant children went to the local
>(non-Catholic) comp too.
>Are you sure? I seem to recall that in the very early days Karen
>& Damon Grant went to a Catholic comp and Lucy Collins to
>Brookside Comp
I'm certain they were all at the same school.
>>The fact that the father of the family is re-married at all
>(within a devout Catholic family)
>>should (I stress: *should*) mean that he is a widower.
>During the heart to heart between Diane and Adele in the football
>pavilion this week Adele said that no-one knew where her mother
>was. This implies:
>* either she's in heaven/hell/purgatory!
>* or (more likely) she has disappeared and probably still alive.
Another heartrending story being set up here, d'you thinK?
JNugent
>JNugent <JNu...@AC30.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>> >West of Scotland. JNugent implied
>> >that Liverpudlians had a greater level of intelligence than Ulster
>> >people.
>>I "in-implied" nothing of the sort. I didn't even mention Northern Ireland
>>(not "Ulster", which province lies partly within the Republic, of course)
>>until you did.
>Yes you did.
No I didn't.
>Your original quote was "Liverpudlians are too intelligent for
>that" which implies that anyone who still has those kind of troubles is
>somehow less intelligent. That was my point and I stand over it.
Feel free to.
You will have noticed that it deosn't mention "Ulster" or even Northern Ireland.
>
>
>
>
eagl...@marirob.netlineuk.net
Gary <garyjenk...@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>
>
> >
> >It's happened before - the Grant children went to the local
> (non-Catholic) comp too.
>
> Are you sure? I seem to recall that in the very early days Karen
> & Damon Grant went to a Catholic comp and Lucy Collins to
> Brookside Comp
>
> (within a devout Catholic family)
> >should (I stress: *should*) mean that he is a widower.
> >
>
> During the heart to heart between Diane and Adele in the football
> pavilion this week Adele said that no-one knew where her mother
> was. This implies:
>
> * either she's in heaven/hell/purgatory!
>
> * or (more likely) she has disappeared and probably still alive.
>
real mum as far as I'm concerned.' It's practically a parallel of the
Beppe-Sandra-Joe situation on EE. Presumably for Marty to have re-
married Diane (as she, herself, states she is his second wife), there
would have had to have been a divorce. So ... is he a Catholic, or as
strict a Catholic as his East End counterpart, as it appears that
neither Beppe nor Sandra ever got around to divorcing each other. And
how long before the first Mrs. Murray makes an appearance - possibly
working for Bev at Bev's BRA?
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topic post too.
Vincent Vaughan eat your heart out ;-)
Seriously folks, let's try to be friends?