Whatever happened to....

Clare & Jo

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Whatever happened to.....
Karen Grant
Bobby Grant
The scottish nurse whose name I can't remember
The Collins Family
Heather (whose husband ODed)

I've forgotten what happened to these vintage characters. If anyone would
like to fill me in - plus any others from years ago I'd appreciate it
Cheers
Clare

Leigh M. Preece

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Hi Clare 'n' Jo,

Do you mean now or during the show ?

On 7 Jan 1998 08:31:28 GMT, "Clare & Jo" <kla...@ihug.co.nz> wrote:

>Whatever happened to.....
>Karen Grant

Maybe she became too pleasant and didn't fit into the Grant family
anymore.... believe she's now an housewife.

>Bobby Grant

Last seen working as a chef on an BBC Series set on an oil-rig in
Scotland....

>Heather (whose husband ODed)

I believe shes now following a good career in pathology/forensics on
the BBC... and her husband - played by my hero Alan Rothwell - is in
regional theatres as well as doing voiceovers aplenty....

>I've forgotten what happened to these vintage characters. If anyone would
>like to fill me in - plus any others from years ago I'd appreciate it

God - there are so many - where do we start ?

Leigh.....
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Stephen Rose

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In article <01bd1b46$88756ea0$1dfd...@xtr819167.xtra.co.nz>, "Clare & Jo" (kla...@ihug.co.nz) writes:
>Whatever happened to.....
>Karen Grant

She went to Univ. in Exeter (or similar) and ending staying
there, maybe came back for Damon's funeral? But basically just
faded away - actually I think she became a journalist, so maybe
she came back once or twice (for christenings and the such-like)

>Bobby Grant

Well as you prob. know: him and Sheila had a painful splitting up
process and he moved out (and essentialy out of the series) - she
got involved with Billy Corkhill, with plenty of complications
caused by return of Doe Corkhill and Barry "Oedipus" Grant not
liking his Mummy having a boyfriend. Bobby may have popped up once
or twice: very anti the thing with Corkhill as Bobby was strong
union man and Billy Corkhill did a bit of work for some capitalist
once (long story).

Anyway long and short of it Bobby is marrying some younger woman
from the union (poss. a storyline where he wanted a divorce and
tormented Catholic Sheila didn't?? must have been) Then it
transpires his new woman is having a baby - which is a shock as
Bobby had the snip after his and Sheila's Clare was born (remember
her much younger than her three siblings). Well he had the op.
reversed - I don't know whether this came before or after his new
marriage etc. So that's it he left the house when he and She split
up and returned for a while to argue about things like Corkhill
and divorce and poss. to see Clare as well, then as he got settles
and Billy and Sheila settled he withdrew into background. Then
Billy, Sheila and Clare moved to Basingstoke (or similar) and that
was it the link broken. So a gradual fading out and now his family
are scattered across the British Isles.

The scottish nurse whose name I can't remember

??? Did she live in house with another nurse (who perhaps got
shot?) and good looking Pat who became mad Pat?? If so she prob
left after once nice Pat had nearly raped her.

>The Collins Family
Rather a sad demise and falling away of a once strong family who
represented the middle class values that came into conflict with
the working class values of the Grants...
Loony, strong willed daughter Lucy left to live with lover in
France (older married man and all that I suppose) then returned
once or twice (a la that other great prodigal Bazza Grant) then
went back to France or whatever. Gordon, gay son, can't remember -
had a boyfriend went to live with boyfriend or boyfriend did
something nasty and scheming to him? so maybe he went to start a
new life .... that'll bug me now (I know someone ran hisa dog over
once).
Mummy and Daddy were left and gradually faded from storylines as
characters do (eg Fi in the salon) - not least due to ill health I
think. I have a vague feeling that the actress who played Mr.
Collins died in real life. I think her character was killed off
and Mr. Collins became a broken man and he moved away, no longer
the strident force he once was - this may be muddled but I'm sure
she died in real life (and the diminishing storylines prob.
connected with her having a period of illness.)
Apologies if I've muddled this with other facts.

>Heather (whose husband ODed)

I think she was a solicitor or was it an ad executive? (certainly a
succesful, professional woman) and she went off to London to start a
new life and some good job once she had come to terms with the
death of hubby Nick (who along with wayward friend Charlie was a
recreational user of heroin). Any EastEnders viewers? I just
thought Simon and Tiffany's dad might be played by he who played
Charlie?? (He looks familar whatever the answer)

Dave Matthews

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Clare & Jo wrote:
>
> Whatever happened to.....
> Karen Grant

> Bobby Grant

> The scottish nurse whose name I can't remember

> The Collins Family
> Heather (whose husband ODed)
>

Ah... fond and sad memories - particularly of Amanda Burton (Heather)
leaving!

As others have said, Karen went off to be a journalist and I haven't
seen the actress who played (Sheila O'Hara?) in anything else.

The Collins family leaving was strange - ISTR there was no warning that
they were going - it was just suddenly announced at the end of one
episode that they were moving out and that was it! I don't think they
even gave a reason. It is true that Doreen Sloane tragically died of
cancer (some of you may remember long periods during 1988 where she
either wasn't in the series or we saw her just sitting in the armchair
for the entire episode).

Sandra was the Scots nurse - she romped back to Edinburgh with a young
doctor - much to Pat's regret! The actress show played her (can't
remember her name) later appeared in a Taggart story - but I've not seen
her since.

I've saved the best for last... Heather! After the tragedy of Nick's
death and given her previous broken marriage to Roger, she decided 9
Brookside Close held too many bad memories and decided to get away,
initially moving back to her parents in Ireland and then to London, I
think, where she resumed her career in Accountancy. Yes, a tragic day
for us Heather fans when she left in Christmas '86 :-( Can it really
be eleven years??!!!

Actually it was Amanda Burton herself who wanted to leave, apprently
not happy with her storylines. The producers wanted her to stay but it
wasn't to be. She was then completely wasted in 'Boon' but I'm glad she
got that terrific part in 'Silent Witness'.

I think Brookie lost too many key characters in 88/89 - remember Harry
and Ralph went, too. This also started a period where ratings halved,
too.

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On 7 Jan 1998 08:31:28 GMT, "Clare & Jo" <kla...@ihug.co.nz> wibbled:

>Whatever happened to.....
>Karen Grant

Working for a fashion magazine in London

>Bobby Grant

split up from Susan Morgan and went off to work on the oil rigs
(spooky)

>The scottish nurse whose name I can't remember

Sandra Maghie - married Dr. Tony Hurrell, they have 3 kids and live
near Glasgow

>The Collins Family

Gordon - working in the wine trade still, wrote a book (Wine Tasting
for Beginners)

Lucy - living just outside Paris, still no luck with men or work

Paul and Annabelle - running a small guest house in the Lake District
(wonder if it's anywhere near Mavis)

>Heather (whose husband ODed)

Spent 3 years working in Ireland, but now runs an accountancy practice
in Derbyshire

>
>I've forgotten what happened to these vintage characters. If anyone would
>like to fill me in - plus any others from years ago I'd appreciate it

All the above info from 'Brookside - Life in the Close' by Geoff
Tiballs.

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Dave Parker

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On 7 Jan 1998 08:31:28 GMT, "Clare & Jo" <kla...@ihug.co.nz> wrote:

>Whatever happened to.....
>Karen Grant

>Bobby Grant

>The scottish nurse whose name I can't remember

>The Collins Family
>Heather (whose husband ODed)
>

>I've forgotten what happened to these vintage characters. If anyone would
>like to fill me in - plus any others from years ago I'd appreciate it

>Cheers
>Clare

Karen Grant once interviewd Paula Yates, and now works as media
consultant for INXS
Bobby Grant used to run an Austin Princess, and consequently is now
hiding in shame....
...likewise Paul Collins, although his was a slightly better car - an
Austin Maestro
Heather got an acting job on BBC1
and the Scottish nurse - Sandra Maghie (from Brookside - Life in the
Close) - don't know!!!

Dave Parker

Truth is too precious to tell everyone who asks for it
(And most won't believe you anyway)

Fozzie

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Clare & Jo wrote in message
<01bd1b46$88756ea0$1dfd...@xtr819167.xtra.co.nz>...
>Whatever happened to.....
>Karen Grant went to uni in london she transfered from liverpool uni
>
>
>The Collins Family Left to go to look after Annabelle's mother in Kendal
the family were written out due to the death of Doreen Sloane (Annabelle)

>
>I've forgotten what happened to these vintage characters. If anyone would
>like to fill me in - plus any others from years ago I'd appreciate it

Hope this helps
joanne foster

Alan Rayner

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The message <01bd1b46$88756ea0$1dfd...@xtr819167.xtra.co.nz>
from "Clare & Jo" <kla...@ihug.co.nz> contains these words:

> Whatever happened to.....
> Karen Grant

Shelagh O'Hara went to university and returned for a couple of episodes
with Sue Johnston and Ricky Tomlinson. Nothing thereafter.

> Bobby Grant
Ricky Tomlinson got involved with the Shrewsbury Two campaign and
decided to move away from Brookside Close as the politics of the
project moved away from the industrial confrontation of the eighties.

> The scottish nurse whose name I can't remember

Sheila Grier went back to Scotland after suffering the trauma of
being held hostage with sharon Rosita and David Easter. Sharon Rosita
was killed and David Easter moved on to form an entertainments company
called "Lip Service" in a Southern town called Charnham.

> The Collins Family
Doreen Sloane died a few years after she and Wiggins moved back to
Cheshire. their daughter Katrin Cartlidge took up a number of acting
roles after her return from France and a dalliance with Paul Usher I
believe. Katrin has been noted for playing "odd" roles.

> Heather (whose husband ODed)
Amanda Burton became a GP in a joint practice with Kevin Whateley who
used to help solve crimes for John Thaw and friend Grout their local
commander. Amanda left the Close in order to travel to Ulster but
seems to have returned to the mainland with an interest in the dead.

> I've forgotten what happened to these vintage characters. If anyone would
> like to fill me in - plus any others from years ago I'd appreciate it

> Cheers
> Clare

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Ivydene Cottage, Homend Crescent, Ledbury, Herefordshire HR8 1AH UK
0976-262406
Data Consultant to FE colleges in the UK

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from ma...@wdi.co.uk (Mark Machin) contains these words:

> On 7 Jan 1998 08:31:28 GMT, "Clare & Jo" <kla...@ihug.co.nz> wrote:

> >Bobby Grant

> He played "the guv" in Cracker didn't he?

Yes - but as Ricky Tomlinson.

John A Fotheringham

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Alan Rayner <al...@lightnet.co.uk> wrote:

>> Whatever happened to.....
>> Karen Grant
> Shelagh O'Hara went to university and returned for a couple of episodes
> with Sue Johnston and Ricky Tomlinson. Nothing thereafter.
>
>> Bobby Grant
> Ricky Tomlinson got involved with the Shrewsbury Two campaign and
> decided to move away from Brookside Close as the politics of the
> project moved away from the industrial confrontation of the eighties.
>

Now this is plain peverse. Using the actors names to describe the
fictional activities they undertook *after* their acting roles ended!!

It's like you're talking in code. For a moment there I really though
Ricky Tomlinson (the actor) had got involved in politics as described
(maybe he did).

>Data Consultant to FE colleges in the UK

You don't advise on User Interfaces by any chance? :^)

Sorrel

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John A Fotheringham wrote in message
<34b6da69...@newshost.nwnet.co.uk>...

>Alan Rayner <al...@lightnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>> Bobby Grant
>> Ricky Tomlinson got involved with the Shrewsbury Two campaign and
>> decided to move away from Brookside Close as the politics of the
>> project moved away from the industrial confrontation of the eighties.
>>
>
>Now this is plain peverse. Using the actors names to describe the
>fictional activities they undertook *after* their acting roles ended!!
>
>It's like you're talking in code. For a moment there I really though
>Ricky Tomlinson (the actor) had got involved in politics as described
>(maybe he did).
>

Actually, I believe Ricky Tomlinson was involved (as a political activist)
in one of the major disputes of the 1970s - so his involvement with the
Shrewsbury Two (he was one of them, don't know who the other was) predates
his appearance in Brookside - predates his acting career entirely, I think.

Subsequently he's gone on to appear in various excellent Ken Loach films
such as "RiffRaff" (which also had Robert Carlyle - who was Albie in the
first "Cracker" Ricky Tomlinson appeared in and "Raining Stones". The Ken
Loach/Ricky Tomlinson association seems to bbe a really fruitful one.

Sorrel

Mark Evans

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John A Fotheringham (j...@yrl.co.ku) wrote:

: Alan Rayner <al...@lightnet.co.uk> wrote:
:
: >> Whatever happened to.....
: >> Karen Grant
: > Shelagh O'Hara went to university and returned for a couple of episodes
: > with Sue Johnston and Ricky Tomlinson. Nothing thereafter.

: >
: >> Bobby Grant

: > Ricky Tomlinson got involved with the Shrewsbury Two campaign and
: > decided to move away from Brookside Close as the politics of the
: > project moved away from the industrial confrontation of the eighties.
: >
:
: Now this is plain peverse. Using the actors names to describe the
: fictional activities they undertook *after* their acting roles ended!!

I'm reminded of something which happened regarding another
UK soap. A cast member receiving death threats sent by
viewers who disliked the character they played. There are
people sad enough to confuse actors with the characters
they play. Alan is doing a very good impersonation of
this.

Alan Rayner

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> >> Bobby Grant
> > Ricky Tomlinson got involved with the Shrewsbury Two campaign and
> > decided to move away from Brookside Close as the politics of the
> > project moved away from the industrial confrontation of the eighties.
> >

> It's like you're talking in code. For a moment there I really though

> Ricky Tomlinson (the actor) had got involved in politics as described
> (maybe he did).

To the best of my knowledge and belief he did!!!
One reason why he became dis-enchanted with Brookside was that the old
industrial roles of the early eighties subsided. When was the last time
that Brookside involved a real industrial dispute? they used to occur at
least once every two years in the early days.

> >Data Consultant to FE colleges in the UK
> You don't advise on User Interfaces by any chance? :^)

Occasionally I do but my primary interest is in data and, of course,
people's names are data!!

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0976-262406

Alan Rayner

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> > Doreen Sloane died a few years after she and Wiggins moved back to
> > Cheshire. their daughter Katrin Cartlidge took up a number of acting
> > roles after her return from France and a dalliance with Paul Usher I
> > believe. Katrin has been noted for playing "odd" roles.

> What type of 'odd' roles!?!?
> Please enlighten us :)
> Vicki

I would love to do so but I cannot recall any of them specifically at
present. One way to find out would be to check out Spotlight, the guide
to all aspiring actors and check a few credits.

Does anyone know if Spotlight is available as an on-line web-site?

I do not use www myself as I have yet to understand the Netscape front-end
screen or to gain access to a search engine. I am one of those people who
stick to tried and tested MS-DOS rather than new-fangled products like
Windows-95 which reduce the size of the space bar on the keyboard.

However, to answer your question. I recall being impressed by what Katrin
did (on terrestrial television but pushing back the frontiers). Also she
has had an "interesting" stage career.

Trish

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Katrin Cartlidge has appeared in "Breaking the Waves" and "Career Girls"
among other film and TV work. "Different" rather than "odd" maybe?
"Breaking the Waves"...very disturbing film I thought, but it may be just
me.
Trish
Dublin, Ireland
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John A Fotheringham

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Alan Rayner <al...@lightnet.co.uk> wrote:

>> >> Bobby Grant
>> > Ricky Tomlinson got involved with the Shrewsbury Two campaign and
>> > decided to move away from Brookside Close as the politics of the
>> > project moved away from the industrial confrontation of the eighties.
>> >
>
>> It's like you're talking in code. For a moment there I really though
>> Ricky Tomlinson (the actor) had got involved in politics as described
>> (maybe he did).
>
>To the best of my knowledge and belief he did!!!
>One reason why he became dis-enchanted with Brookside was that the old
>industrial roles of the early eighties subsided. When was the last time
>that Brookside involved a real industrial dispute? they used to occur at
>least once every two years in the early days.

Hence (probably) my confusion. I'm got equally confused when you were
discussing Claire Sweeny, as I briefly thought that was "Sinbad's"
wife (not that he got married... you see my confusion).

Just out of interest, what do you do when a voung or animal is played
by multiple actors as often happens in films?

Plus your argument of looking in the Radio Times doesn't work when
discussing characters played by less well know actors many years ago
with someone (like me) with an appalling memory for names... and
I *refuse* to buy a dictioanary just to decode a few interesting
Usenet posts.

Never mind.. it's educational for us all.

>> >Data Consultant to FE colleges in the UK

>> You don't advise on User Interfaces by any chance? :^)
>
>Occasionally I do but my primary interest is in data and, of course,
>people's names are data!!

I'd figured as much :^) but I reckon you're using the wrong primary
key on this particular database.

Mike Hatton

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In article <34b6bcb3...@news.cerbernet.co.uk>,
Mark Machin <ma...@wdi.co.uk> wrote:

> > I believe shes now following a good career in pathology/forensics on
> > the BBC... and her husband - played by my hero Alan Rothwell - is in
> > regional theatres as well as doing voiceovers aplenty....

> I'm sorry, I could never take him seriously in Brookie after watching
> him at school presenting "Picture Box" every week (incidentally had
> the same title music as "Tales of the Unexpected")

I would need someone to back me up with actual facts but I would strongly
dispute the claim that Picture Box and Tales Of The Unexpected shared the
same theme tune.

Along the same lines . . . does anyone know which ITV panel game changed
its theme tune to that used by a BBC long-running children's drama series?

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Dave Parker

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>I would need someone to back me up with actual facts but I would strongly
>dispute the claim that Picture Box and Tales Of The Unexpected shared the
>same theme tune.

You're right, they didn't

>Along the same lines . . . does anyone know which ITV panel game changed
>its theme tune to that used by a BBC long-running children's drama series?

It was Give Us A Clue, originally with Micheal Parkinson, then with
Micheal Aspel (or is that the other way round) - they used the theme
tune from Grange Hill, which I think, BTW, was much better in the days
of Tucker & Co. But then I'm 29 now, so shouldn't really be watching
it anyway.

Has anyone noticed just how dull some kids' programming has become -
Blue Peter was ACE when I was a nipper, with John, Val, Peter and
co...

David Thomas

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In article <34B3DE...@carnfort.u-net.com>, Dave Matthews
<matt...@carnfort.u-net.com> writes

>Clare & Jo wrote:
>>
>> Whatever happened to.....
>> Karen Grant

>> Bobby Grant

>> The scottish nurse whose name I can't remember

>> The Collins Family
>> Heather (whose husband ODed)
>>
>

>Whatever has happened to the Televisions in Brookside Close? Do they
not have reception and rely on swapping videos? The reason why I ask is
that every time anyone is watching TV its always the same programme with
that silly "Flopsie the Bunny" music. See Monday Tuesday night's
episode, Kylie was watching the same programme, same silly music. Or is
it some in joke with Continuity or the production team?

--
David Thomas

Dave Parker

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On Sun, 11 Jan 1998 14:56:42 +0000, David Thomas
<Da...@cymru1.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>>Whatever has happened to the Televisions in Brookside Close? Do they
>not have reception and rely on swapping videos? The reason why I ask is
>that every time anyone is watching TV its always the same programme with
>that silly "Flopsie the Bunny" music. See Monday Tuesday night's
>episode, Kylie was watching the same programme, same silly music. Or is
>it some in joke with Continuity or the production team?

I have often thought the same, as I've tried in vain to find it on any
TV channel (must be a Mersey TV thing). However I suspect it's to try
and avoid having to pay copyright or re-broadcast fees to the
makers/stars of the programme concerned - Coronation Street has been
mentioned occasionally, to try and give that "real life" feel, but I
suspect if they were actually seen *watching* it, it would be
expensive for Mersey TV.....

Having said that, nobody ever mentions that they watch "Brookside" -
has anyone else noticed that? You'd think that someone would mention
it, and why hasn't Danny Simpson contributed to this ng, because he
has Internet access, and has been surfing all over the place, so
surely Ollie must let him have ng access too.....

Mr 50%

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Trade confirmed from: da...@horizon-solara.demon.co.uk (Dave Parker)
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>Having said that, nobody ever mentions that they watch "Brookside" -
>has anyone else noticed that? You'd think that someone would mention
>it, and why hasn't Danny Simpson contributed to this ng, because he
>has Internet access, and has been surfing all over the place, so
>surely Ollie must let him have ng access too.....
>Dave Parker
>
>Truth is too precious to tell everyone who asks for it
>(And most won't believe you anyway)

Well why do you think NONE of the anti Danny posts ever appear here !

He's sat there blasting themm off into cyber-space !

All hail to the mighty Danny Simpson, who lets us humble viewers post
messages at his discretion.

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Sorrel

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Dave Parker wrote in message <34b8fe2...@news.demon.co.uk>...

>On Sun, 11 Jan 1998 14:56:42 +0000, David Thomas
><Da...@cymru1.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>>Whatever has happened to the Televisions in Brookside Close? Do they
>>not have reception and rely on swapping videos?

>Having said that, nobody ever mentions that they watch "Brookside" -

>has anyone else noticed that? You'd think that someone would mention
>it, and why hasn't Danny Simpson contributed to this ng, because he
>has Internet access, and has been surfing all over the place, so
>surely Ollie must let him have ng access too.....
>Dave Parker
>

There was once a special Mersey TV thing called Meadowcroft Park. They
realised that a fundamental difference between Brookside and real life was
that no-one in Brookside watched (and talked about) soap operas. So, as a
media project with local schools (I believe) they got together and produced
Meadowcroft Park, which characters would refer to in passing. I remember
Max Farnham saying that Ron Dixon reminded him of a character in Meadowcroft
Park (and I'm not going to even attempt to translate the implications of
that into Rayner-ese!).

Meadowcroft Park seems to have vanished; why don't they cross-fertilise with
their other production - Hollyoaks? You could have characters in one
discussing what's going on in the other and - as both are produced by Mersey
TV, there should be no problem with getting out of synch!

Sorrel

Stephen Rose

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In article <698v9s$di6$2...@news.u-net.com>, "Sorrel" (sor...@oxmust.u-net.com) writes:

>Subsequently he's gone on to appear in various excellent Ken Loach films
>such as "RiffRaff" (which also had Robert Carlyle - who was Albie in the
>first "Cracker" Ricky Tomlinson appeared in and "Raining Stones". The Ken
>Loach/Ricky Tomlinson association seems to bbe a really fruitful one.

Yes it was funny seeing Bobby Grant, as a builder, naked in a bath
in a house that was owned by people he didn't even know: in
RiffRaff. :-)

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In article <69bb40$gft$1...@news.u-net.com>, "Sorrel" (sor...@oxmust.u-net.com) writes:

>There was once a special Mersey TV thing called Meadowcroft Park. They
>realised that a fundamental difference between Brookside and real life was
>that no-one in Brookside watched (and talked about) soap operas. So, as a
>media project with local schools (I believe) they got together and produced
>Meadowcroft Park, which characters would refer to in passing. I remember
>Max Farnham saying that Ron Dixon reminded him of a character in Meadowcroft
>Park (and I'm not going to even attempt to translate the implications of
>that into Rayner-ese!).

Wow - I didn't remember that at all, clever idea though.

>
>Meadowcroft Park seems to have vanished; why don't they cross-fertilise with
>their other production - Hollyoaks? You could have characters in one
>discussing what's going on in the other and - as both are produced by Mersey
>TV, there should be no problem with getting out of synch!

And what a great piece of product placement !! (even better than
that classic case where the shop in Spielberg's film Jurrassic Park
sells, you got it, Jurrassic park dinosaurs - these also being
products on sale in the shops in the real world (as well as the
fantasy world of J park.)

Alan prob. advised them on this matter.

Stephen Rose

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Jan 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/11/98

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In article <34c80c8b...@news.prestel.co.uk>, Mr 50% (mr50...@REMOVEhotmail.com) writes:

>
>Well why do you think NONE of the anti Danny posts ever appear here !
>
>He's sat there blasting themm off into cyber-space !
>
>All hail to the mighty Danny Simpson, who lets us humble viewers post
>messages at his discretion.

I like this Mr 50% I smiles out loud at that. And yes what he
says is true, by golly it is.

from

A big fan of the mighty Danny

Alan Rayner

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Jan 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/12/98

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> Why hasn't Danny Simpson contributed to this ng, because he

> has Internet access, and has been surfing all over the place, so
> surely Ollie must let him have ng access too.....
> Dave Parker

There is a serious point here. Does anyone know whether Mersey Television

monitor the postings to this newsgroup?

I would think it unlikely that Andrew Butler would be the one to do it
but maybe it appears in the job description of someone there!

--
Alan Rayner (al...@lightnet.co.uk)
Ivydene Cottage, Homend Crescent, Ledbury, Herefordshire HR8 1AH UK
0976-262406

Alan Rayner

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Jan 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/12/98

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> Every time anyone is watching TV its always the same programme with
> the "Flopsie the Bunny" music.
> David Thomas

This is a great programme. I do not know the plot but I really enjoy the
music. Can anyone advise what it is called and whether it is available
publicly? There was a time when it was aired less frequently and I like
many others (I'm sure) felt deprived. Fortunately Mersey Television has
seen fit to give us an occasional fix again.

It is a nice homely tune - like the Archers theme music on Radio Four.

^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^

In-joke for those around at end of August 1967!

Colin Mann

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Jan 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/12/98

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For heaven's sake, everyone using this group knows the difference between
Ricky Tomlinson the actor and Bobby Grant the character created by Phil
Redmond for Brookie. I've just returned from a few days away and the
majority of mails are either your comments on other people's observations
or your misleading comments. Please play ball!

Colin M

Tony Henshall

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Jan 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/12/98

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> > Every time anyone is watching TV its always the same programme with
> > the "Flopsie the Bunny" music.
> > David Thomas

If anyone hasn't already said this, it's called "The Magic Rabbits"!

Cheers, Tony

Mark Whidby

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Jan 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/12/98

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In article <RMhsCAAq...@cymru1.demon.co.uk>, David Thomas
<Da...@cymru1.demon.co.uk> writes:

> >Whatever has happened to the Televisions in Brookside Close? Do they

> not have reception and rely on swapping videos? The reason why I ask is
> that every time anyone is watching TV its always the same programme with
> that silly "Flopsie the Bunny" music.

Oh God! Here's another one - the *real* name is "The Magic Rabbits".
Flopsie the Bunny is the actor's name for those of you who were confused.

--
Mark Whidby, Manchester Computing

Paul Baker

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Jan 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/12/98

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In article <4806bd1...@eurobell.co.uk>, Mike Hatton
<mi...@eurobell.co.uk> writes

>Along the same lines . . . does anyone know which ITV panel game changed
>its theme tune to that used by a BBC long-running children's drama series?

That silly charades one - Give us a clue or something like that rings a
bell (as do Mike Aspel, Lionel Blair and Una Stubbs)
--
Paul Baker **replace 'news' with 'paul' if replying by email**
Birmingham, UK

Dave Parker

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Jan 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/12/98

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On Sun, 11 Jan 1998 20:35:18 -0000, "Sorrel" <sor...@oxmust.u-net.com>
wrote:

>Meadowcroft Park seems to have vanished; why don't they cross-fertilise with
>their other production - Hollyoaks? You could have characters in one
>discussing what's going on in the other and - as both are produced by Mersey
>TV, there should be no problem with getting out of synch!

I suspect Meadowcroft Park went the same way as Albion Market went ne1
remember that?

Dave Parker

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Jan 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/12/98

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On Mon, 12 Jan 1998 01:31:42 GMT, Alan Rayner <al...@lightnet.co.uk>
wrote:

>> Why hasn't Danny Simpson contributed to this ng, because he
>> has Internet access, and has been surfing all over the place, so
>> surely Ollie must let him have ng access too.....
>> Dave Parker
>
>There is a serious point here. Does anyone know whether Mersey Television
>monitor the postings to this newsgroup?
>
>I would think it unlikely that Andrew Butler would be the one to do it
>but maybe it appears in the job description of someone there!

I suspect someone must, so they'd be pretty insensed at your continued
use of the actor's names, just like others in this ng...

BTW, if you're watching Phil Redmond - do you have any places for
extras in the cast?

Mags

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Jan 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/12/98

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Stephen Rose <wr...@rose.win-uk.net> wrote in article
<14...@rose.win-uk.net>...

Yes, Danny Simpson is ..... Alan Rayner!!!!!!
>

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Jan 13, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/13/98

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In article <34baabf...@newshost.nwnet.co.uk>, John A Fotheringham
<j...@yrl.co.ku> writes

>>That silly charades one - Give us a clue or something like that rings a
>>bell (as do Mike Aspel, Lionel Blair and Una Stubbs)
>
>okay then
>
> [waves hands in air]
>
>..it's a TV show!
>

You don't see a posting here from a JAF for ages, ad then 3 turn up all
at once!!

Hello John!

Lizzie

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Jan 13, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/13/98

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Who is Doreen Sloane and who is Katrin Cartlidge?. I have watched
Brookside from the begining, but I don't recognise these people.

In article <199801102...@lightnet.co.uk>, Alan Rayner
<al...@lightnet.co.uk> writes
>> > Doreen Sloane died a few years after she and Wiggins moved back to
>> > Cheshire. their daughter Katrin Cartlidge took up a number of acting
>> > roles after her return from France and a dalliance with Paul Usher I
>> > believe. Katrin has been noted for playing "odd" roles.
>
>> What type of 'odd' roles!?!?
>> Please enlighten us :)
>> Vicki
>
>I would love to do so but I cannot recall any of them specifically at
>present. One way to find out would be to check out Spotlight, the guide
>to all aspiring actors and check a few credits.
>
>Does anyone know if Spotlight is available as an on-line web-site?
>
>I do not use www myself as I have yet to understand the Netscape front-end
>screen or to gain access to a search engine. I am one of those people who
>stick to tried and tested MS-DOS rather than new-fangled products like
>Windows-95 which reduce the size of the space bar on the keyboard.
>
>However, to answer your question. I recall being impressed by what Katrin
>did (on terrestrial television but pushing back the frontiers). Also she
>has had an "interesting" stage career.
>

--
Lizzie Hayes

Tony Henshall

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Jan 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/14/98

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The message <IiubdKAn...@archbond.demon.co.uk>
from Lizzie <l...@archbond.demon.co.uk> contains these words:

> Who is Doreen Sloane and who is Katrin Cartlidge?. I have watched
> Brookside from the begining, but I don't recognise these people.

Doreen=Annabelle Collins, Katrin=First and Third (!) Lucy Collins.

Regards, Tony

Mike Hatton

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Jan 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/14/98

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In article <199801140...@zetnet.co.uk>,

.. and Maggie Saunders was Lucy Two.

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Lizzie

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Jan 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/15/98

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In article <199801140...@zetnet.co.uk>, Tony Henshall

<tony.co...@zetnet.co.uk> writes

>The message <IiubdKAn...@archbond.demon.co.uk>
> from Lizzie <l...@archbond.demon.co.uk> contains these words:
>
>> Who is Doreen Sloane and who is Katrin Cartlidge?. I have watched
>> Brookside from the begining, but I don't recognise these people.
>
>Doreen=Annabelle Collins, Katrin=First and Third (!) Lucy Collins.
>

>Regards, Tony
>
Thank you Tony. Why weren't they called Anabelle and Lucy Collins in the
first place then I would have known what and who we were all talking
about.

Best regards
--
Lizzie Hayes

kmwa

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Jan 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/18/98

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In article <14...@rose.win-uk.net>, Stephen Rose <wr...@rose.win-uk.net>
writes

I just wish he'd blow his nose for a change.
--
kmwa

Nigel Jones

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Jan 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/18/98

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On Sat, 10 Jan 1998 22:55:26 -0000, "Sorrel" <sor...@oxmust.u-net.com>
wrote:

>
>John A Fotheringham wrote in message
><34b6da69...@newshost.nwnet.co.uk>...
>>Alan Rayner <al...@lightnet.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>> Bobby Grant
>>> Ricky Tomlinson got involved with the Shrewsbury Two campaign and
>>> decided to move away from Brookside Close as the politics of the
>>> project moved away from the industrial confrontation of the eighties.
>>>
>>
>>Now this is plain peverse. Using the actors names to describe the
>>fictional activities they undertook *after* their acting roles ended!!
>>
>>It's like you're talking in code. For a moment there I really though
>>Ricky Tomlinson (the actor) had got involved in politics as described
>>(maybe he did).
>>
>Actually, I believe Ricky Tomlinson was involved (as a political activist)
>in one of the major disputes of the 1970s - so his involvement with the
>Shrewsbury Two (he was one of them, don't know who the other was) predates
>his appearance in Brookside - predates his acting career entirely, I think.
>
Yes he served his time in prison before Brookside.

>Subsequently he's gone on to appear in various excellent Ken Loach films
>such as "RiffRaff" (which also had Robert Carlyle - who was Albie in the
>first "Cracker" Ricky Tomlinson appeared in and "Raining Stones". The Ken
>Loach/Ricky Tomlinson association seems to bbe a really fruitful one.
>
He also opened 'Ricky's Bar' in Liverpool during the late '80's.

Nige

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