Atlantic 252
Erwin
"Merlin" <merlin...@virgin.net> schreef in bericht
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> I'm after details about Atlantic 252 for a talk about AM Broadcasting.
>
> 1. What type of AM stereo system are they using ?.
> (Two systems I know of are the Motorola/Harris
> System and the kahn-Hazeltine)
>
> 2. What type and make of Transmitters are they using ?
> (The only information I have is that they use 2x500 KW
> Transmitters, operating as pairs at 250 KW.)
>
> 3. Are they using DAM or just straight forward class C high level
> modulation ?
> (I think they are using Class C due to it being a fairly
> old Transmitter now)
>
> 4. What type of aerial, feeder and type of matching ?
> (I told that they maybe using balanced feeders)
>
> 5. What type of studio to Tx links ?.
> (ISDN ?)
>
> I'm also interested in any other relevant information to Atlantic 252.
>
> Some of questions I can find out by using a spectrum analyzer
> but I would prefer not to do off air checks.
>
> I've check Atlantic 252 web site and it's under construction.
> I have also Emailed Atlantic 252 and had no reply.
>
> Merlin
> 10 January 2000
>
>
I have emailed too, but also no reply. And have somebody a picture from the
aerial from Atlantic 252? It's for my personal archive.
Erwin
777
Erwin <Er...@hot.A2000.nl> wrote in message
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Merlin
777
Charlie ?!)
The link from Studio (Trim) to Transmitter (Summerhill) is a mono FM feed -
which the station USED to pass off as 'a present' to the locals.........by
way of compensation for having that 'eye-sore' in the back gardens !!!
Merlin <merlin...@virgin.net> wrote in message
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Chris
5. The link is currently ISDN, but will be digital on UHF soon.
2 to 4. I don't know.
Try giving them a ring on 00353 4636655.
Dave
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Chris
> have changed around. Is the new MD doing a hatchet job? Anyone know?
Dave
777 wrote:
> I know Charlie Wolf has a photo !!!!!!!!!!!
Charlie Who...?!?!?!!!!!! ;)
Phil
doing pretty well wasn't it? What changed? And how many listeners does it
have now?
Phil
Adam
"Merlin" <merlin...@virgin.net> wrote in message
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> I'm after details about Atlantic 252 for a talk about AM Broadcasting.
>
> I have also Emailed Atlantic 252 and had no reply.
>
> Merlin
> 10 January 2000
>
Um...the atlantic website isn't under construction. It was um..."redesigned"
by a former presenter who conveniently lost the password before leaving.
That's all I'm saying...apart from allegedly - just to cover my back. But
still, it's quite funny though.
Graeme Selway
Phil wrote in message ...
>So what actually happened to this station. I remember 5 years ago it was
>doing pretty well wasn't it? What changed? And how many listeners does it
>have now?
In a nutshell, GWR amongst others offered a similar format which, given a
choice of FM or LW, well, guess who started losing listeners. They've tried
to rejig the format, certainly over the last year, but now the recently
appointed new boss (John O'Hara?) seems to have jettisoned much of the new
evening / night stuff, so that they're now asking listeners for views on
'building a new radio station'. Been here before, haven't we....?
The Marc Brow Breakfast Show ended on Xmas Eve; the new brekkie show is
hosted by Tony Wrighton (from Essex FM?), it's only claim to fame seems to
be that it starts at 05:30! Mark Whelan, last heard of around May, was
doing last Sunday's breakfast show.
I'm not sure how much else has changed because my listening had also moved
elsewhere. I don't recall hearing Janice and Lorraine recently, for
example,
I think, from memory, they're down to about 1.5m listeners. In Charlie
Wolf's later years they were nudging 6m.
Regards,
Gray.
wozza...@hotmail.com
What is going on in the evenings with stations such as GWR, 2-Ten,
Leicester Sound. Is there no alternative to Graham Torrington? It's a
bit too boring more like Heart in London!! Can someone also give me a
run down who is presenting at B97 Chiltern FM and Chiltern FM
Much appreciated
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Merlin
> > I'm after details about Atlantic 252 for a talk about AM Broadcasting.
> > I've check Atlantic 252 web site and it's under construction.
> > I have also Emailed Atlantic 252 and had no reply.
> > Merlin
> Um...the atlantic website isn't under construction. It was
um..."redesigned"
> by a former presenter who conveniently lost the password before leaving.
> That's all I'm saying...apart from allegedly - just to cover my back. But
> still, it's quite funny though.
You don't answer my questions.
Was he presenter unhappy with something?
Merlin
Merlin
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> I know Charlie Wolf has a photo !!!!!!!!!!!
Good for him.
I found out it's s 500 ft monopole tower with
5 wire, balanced feeders. Not sure what the
tuning unit on the site is. Possibly delta match.
The Atlantic 252 tower is based on a BBC
MF tower design but slightly modernised
base for use on LF. Similar towers can be
found at any BBC MF site (Westerglen,
Wychbold, Moorside Edge).
p.s. The 2 x 850ft LF towers at Wychbold
are alot different in design from that of a MF
station.
Merlin
777
to Atlantic 252".
I SAID: "I know Charlie Wolf has a photo !!!!!!!!!!!"
YOU HAVE JUST SAID: "Good for him".
I SAY: Charlie Wolf contributes to this newsgroup and I thought this might
help you with 'other relevent information' (ie you guys get in touch with
one another = you get a photo to use at your 'Talk').
***I don't appreciate you being smart when I'm only trying to help !***
Merlin <merlin...@virgin.net> wrote in message
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Merlin
> ***I don't appreciate you being smart when I'm only trying to help !***
I'm just have a bad day at work, mainly with
stupid persistant people who don't listen.
Ignore my smart remarks.
Merlin
Ellen Stafford
>Can someone give me a run down of what is going on with the GWR group?
>What is going on in the evenings with stations such as GWR, 2-Ten,
>Leicester Sound. Is there no alternative to Graham Torrington? It's a
>bit too boring more like Heart in London!! Can someone also give me a
>run down who is presenting at B97 Chiltern FM and Chiltern FM
>
Are you saying Heart in London is boring??? I don't think so!!!
Graham Torrington is ok but there is only so much of that I can
stand....I listen to Bath FM now in the evening. Much better.
Ellen
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777
I know that feeling only TOO well :-)
Merlin <merlin...@virgin.net> wrote in message
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777
So what are Bath FM doing ?
Ellen Stafford <el...@webkin.co.uk> wrote in message
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777
?
>>>the new brekkie show is hosted by Tony Wrighton (from Essex FM?), it's
only claim to fame seems to
be that it starts at 05:30!
Graeme Selway <graeme...@virgin.net> wrote in message
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Graeme Selway
777 wrote in message <85n855$c63$1...@fraggle.esatclear.ie>...
>What do you think of this new guy ? Will he be the 'saviour' of Atlantic
252
>?
I don't know. I haven't heard that much of him. Perhaps it's early days
but there doesn't seem to be anything 'special' or particularly distinctive
about what he's doing.
Thinking back to Marc Brow's shows, some of what he did was quite good, but
equally some of it was dire. In the ten months, the show changed so many
times it was almost impossible to keep up with it. Not just the content,
but the continual changes of producers, news readers, travel people (and the
nick-names thereof), made-up characters etc. it all seemed never-ending.
The period with Archie acting more as a co-presenter than just newsreader
was probably the most successful phase.
He needed some kind of foil or straight-man, but it was as if the management
wouldn't allow it or didn't think it necessary. IMO, it was.
Regards,
Gray.
Ellen Stafford
>Agreed about Heart...and GT.
>
>So what are Bath FM doing ?
Bath FM are cool! They really do give good information to Bath. Good
selection of music....long playlist. :) Good competitions.....so far I
think it is brilliant.
Gary A
> >What do you think of this new guy ? Will he be the 'saviour' of Atlantic
> 252
> >?
>
>
> I don't know. I haven't heard that much of him. Perhaps it's early days
> but there doesn't seem to be anything 'special' or particularly
distinctive
> about what he's doing.
First impressions?
Tony Wrighton isn't a bad "music radio" presenter - stick him on overnights
or a bland music radio station (Essex FM??) and he'll be fine. But to see
him as the solution to Atlantic 252's problems is surely a massive mistake.
His attempts at comedy are cheesey and the general format is as said above
not "particularly distinctive".
Indeed the whole schedule is a mistake. From what I can gather this is the
basic weekday schedule:
0530 - 1000: Tony Wrighton - as discussed.
1000 - 1400: Katharine Orman - a female DJ to rival Lisa I'Anson in lacking
talent.
1400 - 1800: Will Clarke - is there any point to this individual? - his
general chat is just pathetic and dull.
1800 - 2200: Dave James - sounds about 14 and has the talent to match.
2200 - 0200: Steven Cooper - one of the few grains of talent to be found on
the station - he can at least be a bit interesting.
0200 - 0530: Jamie Wood (haven't heard him so I'm not sure if that is his
correct name - I'm only basing that on comments made on-air).
Weekend shows are made up of some of the above plus Mark Whelan (1400 - 1800
Saturdays and Sunday Breakfast) - whom I always quite liked, Simon Hardwick
(average GWR type presenter) and James Unterwood (sounds like he is trying
to impersonate Judge Jules' on-air presentation technique - not a good
idea!).
The overall effect is a station with a very poor line-up of presenters and
with the possible exceptions of Mark Whelan and Steven Cooper a strong
feeling to switch off.
>
> Thinking back to Marc Brow's shows, some of what he did was quite good,
but
> equally some of it was dire. In the ten months, the show changed so many
> times it was almost impossible to keep up with it. Not just the content,
> but the continual changes of producers, news readers, travel people (and
the
> nick-names thereof), made-up characters etc. it all seemed never-ending.
> The period with Archie acting more as a co-presenter than just newsreader
> was probably the most successful phase.
>
> He needed some kind of foil or straight-man, but it was as if the
management
> wouldn't allow it or didn't think it necessary. IMO, it was.
I enjoyed Marc Brow's breakfast shows. Some were as you say completely dire
and there were too many changes. The Archie co-presenting stage undoubtedly
the best period (I forget Archie's real name but I believe he now does his
own show on Beat 106 - I think he does afternoons - following Matt Finlay's
mid morning show - I think both of them defecting from Atlantic 252 was seen
as a great disappointment). The big thing about the Marc Brow breakfast
shows was that they were different - you couldn't get a show like that
anywhere else. It was such a refreshing change when faced by dull, dire
local radio, Evans or Ball.
When it was rubbish - it was almost more enjoyable in a cringesome way.
I believe Atlantic 252 changed for the better last year with the specialist
programming - Eddie Temple Morris (The Edge), The Wiseguys, The Universe
Show, DJ Live - all being first class shows of the type that Radio 1 could
learn much from. The reason why they didn't improve ratings was the daytime
schedule - Katherine Orman, Will Clarke and Dave James are extremely
untalented and should not have been retained. (I'd also suggest that Janice
and Lorraine's programme seemed to need a little more structuring and the
lengthy 12 - 7 am "music through the night" period was too long without a
presenter).
I'd hope the current schedule is temporary during the much hyped re-branding
but for me Atlantic 252 is now Atlantic 25 pooh. It's just an abysmal
station which due to the poor standard of some of it's presenters doesn't
even pull-off the GWR type thing.
Has David Dunne (programme controller) departed?
It's all very sad the station was trying to do something - arguably it had
failed but I was reassured that sometimes they were playlisting great
records that didn't get played elsewhere (ignoring the dire S Club 7 and
Westlife rubbish they still played every hour) and had amongst the best
specialised programming on UK radio.
What annoys me more is that as with most radio stations when such changes
occur - what is the listener told? Absolutely nothing!
Cheers
G
Andy King
on about them 'knocking down the station and building a new one'. They
relaunching?
--
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Designer, Blue Life Media
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Graeme Selway
Gary A wrote in message <3880...@royan.d-n-a.net>...
>0200 - 0530: Jamie Wood (haven't heard him so I'm not sure if that is his
>correct name - I'm only basing that on comments made on-air).
I'd guess that this is James Underwood. He did the breakfast shows between
Christmas and New Year - talks *far* too fast.
>I enjoyed Marc Brow's breakfast shows. Some were as you say completely
dire
>and there were too many changes. The Archie co-presenting stage
undoubtedly
>the best period (I forget Archie's real name but I believe he now does his
>own show on Beat 106 - I think he does afternoons - following Matt Finlay's
>mid morning show - I think both of them defecting from Atlantic 252 was
seen
>as a great disappointment). The big thing about the Marc Brow breakfast
>shows was that they were different - you couldn't get a show like that
>anywhere else. It was such a refreshing change when faced by dull, dire
>local radio, Evans or Ball.
Archie Macpherson?
Compared to what they're offering now, I miss the Marc Brow Breakfast Show
(didn't quite realise it at the time), because it was just so different -
pacy and energetic. He could be funny and if they'd perserved with the bits
which worked well, given it a bit longer, introduced some stability and
dropped the crass characters like Geoffrey and Anthony, they could have been
onto something.
Regards,
Gray.
Graeme Selway
Andy King wrote in message <0cefcfc2...@usw-ex0102-014.remarq.com>...
>Just heard some DJ who sounds younger than me (and I'm 14) on 252 boing
>on about them 'knocking down the station and building a new one'. They
>relaunching?
They've been saying this for a couple of weeks now (and asking for
suggestions/comments from listeners). IMO, they don't know what they're
doing. They've just dropped all of the innovative evening and nightime
shows plus the ten-month old breakfast show and seem now to be back where
they were several years ago - except with a much weaker DJ line-up.
Presumably, this is leading somewhere and there'll be another relaunch to
come.....
Regards,
Gray.
Andy King
Ellen Stafford
<akoNO...@fallinginlove.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
>Same as what I thought about Silk FM when that first came on, but ...
but???.....anything is better than listening to GWR all the time!!!