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Ronan Flood

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Aug 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/20/98
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[Note: crossposted to uk.media.radio.misc, where this has already been
mentioned]

In uk.music.alternative, esc...@netcomuk.co.uk (Jim Hanner) wrote:

> Last night I stuck my radio on to listen to Keith Cameron and he
> wasn't there. This afternoon I got in my car to listen to some
> pleasant music on my journey from Dagenham to Westcliff-on-Sea and
> there was no presenter. As I write, there is still wall-to-wall "indie
> lite" on xfm with no voices in between, ...
...
> WTF is going on? Have they all been sacked or what?

According to Waveguide <http://www.waveguide.co.uk/> the station
will be relaunched on Monday with a new schedule, including Bob
Geldof at drivetime -- temporarily! Newstide <http://www.newstide.com/>
reports that James Hemming has been brought in from Invicta, and
describes this as the "first sign of the dumbing-down of Xfm now
that Capital have got their hands on it".

So, perhaps the current strange behaviour is some reflection of that.
Perhaps some of the current DJs have indeed got the push (putsch?)
or are going to get it so have resigned beforehand. Or maybe they're
protesting at the possible new direction the station may be taking.

Interesting times ...

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Steven

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In article <6rhrge$4b2$1...@yama.mcc.ac.uk>, Ronan Flood
<ro...@noc.ulcc.ac.uk> writes

>So, perhaps the current strange behaviour is some reflection of that.
>Perhaps some of the current DJs have indeed got the push (putsch?)
>or are going to get it so have resigned beforehand. Or maybe they're
>protesting at the possible new direction the station may be taking.

Nooooo!!!!

I notice the internet domain is on the move too...
host -t soa xfm.co.uk.

xfm.co.uk SOA ns1.capitalradio.co.uk root.ns1.capitalradio.co.uk

And the "website" is being Capitalised at http://xfm.co.uk/


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Jim Hanner

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To follow-up my own post just in case anyone's interested.

The following was nicked from the NME web-page:
---------------------------------------------------------------------
(posted by "The Jim Benner Memorial Fund")

Xfm has been taken off the air while Capital move it to Leicester
Square. Its new phone number is 0171-766 6600, fax 0171-766 6601. It
re-opens on Monday.
The new schedule like this:

Monday-Friday

6am-10am James Heming
10am-1pm Jeff Young
1pm-4pm Ian Camfield
4pm-6pm Bob Geldof
6pm-10pm Paul Anderson
10pm-1am Claire Sturgess
1am-6am Gary Crowley (Fri: 1am-6am John Kennedy)

Saturdays
6am-10am Claire Kember
10am-2pm Jeff Young
2pm-6pm Paul Anderson ("sport" it says here)
6pm-10pm Steve Taylor
10pm-2am Wall to Wall (?)
2am-6am John Kennedy

Sundays
6am-10am Claire Kember
10am-2pm James Heming
2pm-6pm Ian Camfield ("chart" it says here)
6pm-10pm Claire Sturgess
10pm-2am Andy McCloskey
2am-6am John Kennedy

All the specialist shows have been axed. Bob Geldof is in for 104 days
(geddit?) as Planet 24 have signed a production deal with Xfm. I've
never heard of James Heming, Jeff Young is (I think) a current Capital
FM DJ.

This bit is interesting...

"Bands that with (sic) be played on Xfm...
Ash, Babybird, Beastie Boys, Beck, Ben Folds Five, Bluetones, Blur,
Candyskins, Catatonia, Chemical Brothers, Eagle-Eye Cherry,
Cornershop, Cranberries, Dakota Moon, Dave Matthews Band, Eels,
Electrasy, Embrace, Fatboy Slim, Foo Fighters, Fun Lovin' Criminals,
Garbage, Gomez, Harvey Danger, Kula Shaker, Manic Street Preachers,
Mansun, Marcy Playground, Oasis, Ocean Colour Scene, Placebo,
Portishead, Prodigy, Pulp, Radiohead, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Reef,
Republica, Rocket From The Crypt, REM, Seahorses, Semisonic, Shed
Seven, Skunk Anansie, Space, Sprung Monkey, Stereophonics, Suede,
Supergrass, The Audience (sic), Verve (sic)"

It looks like a shift towards US-style college rock, even though us
and the Yanks have drifted miles apart musically over the past couple
of years. And no, I've never heard of some of those bands either.
Seems we can bid farewell to those nifty dance tracks, like that
Psychedelia Smith one, that they slipped into the schedule too.

It must have been announced today to avoid the media press giving them
the slagging they deserve, as the main rags come out on Thursdays.

Something must be done to register a protest at this - I seriously
thought about laying a wreath outside 97 Charlotte Street!

Whether all this amounts to a breach of Xfm's licence we'll have to
wait and see, but if you think it's too much then write to: The Radio
Authority, Holbrook House, London WC2B 5DG, or call 0171- 430 2724.
Ask them to send you Xfm's "promise of performance" first - if Capital
break this they can get fined, or if they do it enough, they'll lose
their licence. It makes interesting reading You might like to remind
the RA what "alternative" means...

I'm going back to GLR myself, the music during the day on that
station's pretty good at times.

Let's hope this flops and Capital and Geldof get very, very badly
burned.

Oh, and remember Robert Smith of The Cure was one of the major
shareholders who sold out to Capital...
---------------------------------------------------------------------
(end quoted text)

Fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck. Where's Keith Cameron? Where's Mimi
Kearns? Where's Ricky Gervaise? Where's Dave Arnoff? Where's Sheldon,
Benner, Kennedy?

All you good, good people, (sorry, it's in my head) please complain
like I'm going to do to the address mentioned above. Give it 'til next
Wednesday just to give 'em a chance to prove that they've fucked us
over royally. BTW - sorry Edinburgh, you're getting this shite - not
the xfm we all loved (and loved to hate) that's been on air for just
under a year. Everyone else, just imagine a mixture of the Evening
Session and John Peel minus the "daft African pop-ah". That just about
sums up xfm, with a bit of fruity dance music at the weekends.

I'm actually very upset. I thought xfm was a step in the right
direction. Somebody commented here that it was much better when it was
dark outside, and that just about sums it up for me. I've heard so
much brilliant music on this station over the last year and it saddens
me that next weeks' xfm will undoubtedly be very different and
probably very much like the wall-to-wall pap they're playing now. The
Beautiful South, my arse.

Jim

Rhodri

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Jim Hanner <esc...@netcomuk.co.uk> wrote:

> Fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck. Where's Keith Cameron? Where's Mimi
> Kearns? Where's Ricky Gervaise? Where's Dave Arnoff? Where's Sheldon,
> Benner, Kennedy?

All sacked. Poor Ricky G. Where does he go from here?

Astonishing that Crowley has been moved to the 1am to 6am. I mean I
don't like him but hey, he's the kids fave!

I'd get angry about it but it's not worth it. It was bound to happen.

A crumb of comfort: A radio plugging pal said that the playlist has been
axed, which is theoretically a good thing for smaller bands as you won't
hear the same tunes a dozen time a day. I did say theoretically.

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Andrew Gambier

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Aug 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/20/98
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In article <35e88926...@nntp.netcomuk.co.uk>, Jim Hanner
<esc...@netcomuk.co.uk> writes

>Fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck. Where's Keith Cameron? Where's Mimi
>Kearns? Where's Ricky Gervaise? Where's Dave Arnoff? Where's Sheldon,
>Benner, Kennedy?

Yep, totally agree. This is a bleak day for British radio. Thank god
I'm leaving the capital (for a city with decent radio provision) in two
weeks. Otherwise I'd go round to Capital FM tower and shove my radio up
the Cheif Executive's arse whilst still plugged in.

Pick that one up for your summary of the week, Sneakpeek!

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Ant Chapman

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Aug 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/21/98
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I don't fucking believe it...... and all this after the news that XFM
had not insignificantly increased their listenership. Ridiculous.

Ant Chapman

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math...@my-dejanews.com

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Aug 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/21/98
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Ant Chapman wrote:

> I don't fucking believe it...... and all this after the news that XFM
> had not insignificantly increased their listenership. Ridiculous.
>
> Ant Chapman

What can I say that hasn't been said already! It's a fucking joke! I Emailed
one of the DJs the other day and gave him a bit of my mind... not actually
criticizing him but criticizing the station and he gave a rather nondescript,
can't say won't say answer. It sounded like he didn't know what was going to
happen.

It is a big shame and I hope that Capital gets screwed BIG time for what they
are doing.


*sniff*


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Charlie Ball

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Aug 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/21/98
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In article <GayWBAAJ...@achap.demon.co.uk> Ant Chapman <a...@achap.no.spam.demon.co.uk> writes:
>I don't fucking believe it...... and all this after the news that XFM
>had not insignificantly increased their listenership. Ridiculous.

It's supposedly been the fastest-growing music station in the country.
I know that I convinced all my mates to listen to it to try to show that
the damn thing *is* popular and shouldn't be farmed out to a load of
rubbish major-label tax write-offs. I don't have 200,000 pals, admittedly,
so I can't claim any kind of real success there, but surely the music-hating
twatmonkeys at Capital should have managed to suss that - hey! the station
was popular *as it was*.
So this is what we're getting instead. A forum for the BPI to foist their
poorer-selling bands that we all hate on us. The utter cunts. And I'd hoped
to never hear Skunk Anansie again.

Thanks to Jyoti, I happened to read the Szeki Kurva site just before this,
and it's never seemed so fucking relevant. So, where do we go from here?
Or do we wait and see if the new regime is any good? (I think we can all
guess what the answer is......)

Charlie


Norman Redfern

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Aug 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/21/98
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Jim Hanner wrote:

> To follow-up my own post just in case anyone's interested.
>
> The following was nicked from the NME web-page:

> (snip)

> Whether all this amounts to a breach of Xfm's licence we'll have to
> wait and see, but if you think it's too much then write to: The Radio
> Authority, Holbrook House, London WC2B 5DG, or call 0171- 430 2724.
> Ask them to send you Xfm's "promise of performance" first - if Capital
> break this they can get fined, or if they do it enough, they'll lose
> their licence. It makes interesting reading You might like to remind
> the RA what "alternative" means...

Thanks for posting all the info. I phoned the RA. They said the
back-to-back music while Xfm relocated was done with their prior consent,
but they were instructing Xfm to make regular announcements explaining
what was happening. Haven't heard one yet.
Have, however, just heard a Jamiroquai track. It would take a very heavy
dose of Ricky Gervaise to get over that, and we're fresh out of Ricky
right now.

--
Norman.


Mark Bartlam

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Aug 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/21/98
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On Fri, 21 Aug 1998 02:27:37 +0100, Ant Chapman
<a...@achap.no.spam.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>I don't fucking believe it...... and all this after the news that XFM
>had not insignificantly increased their listenership. Ridiculous.

"Oh my god, they killed Xfm!"
"You bastards!"

I don't know about listening figures, but this is truly a sad end to a
promising radio station. After all the hassle they had in getting a
license, to have the results of all that hard work destroyed in this
way is a fucking travesty.

Remember what Chris Parry said when Capital bought out Xfm? "I'm
delighted that with the backing of Capital Radio, we will be able to
build on our achievements, and fulfil Xfm's potential."

I hope he's satisfied.

--Mark

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Ronan Flood

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Aug 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/21/98
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esc...@netcomuk.co.uk (Jim Hanner) quoted someone on nme.com:

> The new schedule like this:

...


> All the specialist shows have been axed.

Hellfire! I am hoping that was a bad joke ...

Paul Speller

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Aug 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/21/98
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Jim Hanner wrote:

> Its new phone number is 0171-766 6600

* Paul changes his Friends and Family number from 0171 580 2000 :)

> All the specialist shows have been axed.

Oh my fucking god.

> "Bands that with (sic) be played on Xfm...
> Ash, Babybird, Beastie Boys, Beck, Ben Folds Five, Bluetones, Blur,
> Candyskins, Catatonia, Chemical Brothers, Eagle-Eye Cherry,
> Cornershop, Cranberries, Dakota Moon, Dave Matthews Band, Eels,
> Electrasy, Embrace, Fatboy Slim, Foo Fighters, Fun Lovin' Criminals,
> Garbage, Gomez, Harvey Danger, Kula Shaker, Manic Street Preachers,
> Mansun, Marcy Playground, Oasis, Ocean Colour Scene, Placebo,
> Portishead, Prodigy, Pulp, Radiohead, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Reef,
> Republica, Rocket From The Crypt, REM, Seahorses, Semisonic, Shed
> Seven, Skunk Anansie, Space, Sprung Monkey, Stereophonics, Suede,
> Supergrass, The Audience (sic), Verve (sic)"

Over 50% shite as far as I can see.

> Where's Keith Cameron?

Back to the NME presumably :(

> Where's Ricky Gervaise? Where's Dave Arnoff? Where's Sheldon,

My four favourites :(

> Kennedy?

Any idea why he was still doing his show the other night after the
others had gone off air? Paul Anderson did his breakfast show the
following morning (yesterday) too, but apart from that it's been the
loop of about forty records, repeating every three hours or so, with
occasional pauses for adverts and very occasional pauses for news.

> I'm actually very upset.

As am I.

> I thought xfm was a step in the right
> direction. Somebody commented here that it was much better when it was
> dark outside, and that just about sums it up for me.

Indeed. Keith Cameron was great, a top selection of music unrivalled
since the good ol' days of Mark Radcliffe at night.

> I've heard so
> much brilliant music on this station over the last year and it saddens
> me that next weeks' xfm will undoubtedly be very different and
> probably very much like the wall-to-wall pap they're playing now. The
> Beautiful South, my arse.

The loop they've been playing for the past few days features amongst
others:

Republica - From The Rush Hour With Love
Radiohead - Karma Police
Gomez - Whippin' Piccadilly (no complaints from me on that one)
The Charlatans - North Country Boy
The Dandy Warhols - Boys Better
Fun Lovin' Criminals - Love Unlimited
Supernaturals - that one about not being built to get up at that time
Ash's new one I think
Morcheeba - summatorother (not Tape Loop which proves Crapital's lack of
sense of irony)
Blur - Song 2
Roddy Frame - Reason For Living
Hole - Celebrity Skin
Fat Boy Slim - Rockerfeller Skank
Beastie Boys - Intergalactic
Marcy Playground - Sex and Candy
Harvey Danger - Flagpole Sitta
Shed Seven - some shite
Embrace - My Weakness Is Singing or summat

and so on. You get the idea. So is that representative of what we can
expect from the new Xfm?

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Jim Hanner

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Well, the list features a lot of the stuff Xfm have played quite
heavily during daylight for the last few months. You almost get the
picture of the evil Capital men going into Xfm's library, picking up
20 well-worn CDs and announcing to the blokes who are about to rip the
guts out of 97 Charlotte Street: "Right, they'll do for the next five
days - off to Leicester Square. Oh - chuck all that other stuff in the
skip outside".

My little rant aside, the list isn't exactly the "new music" we're
promised by Capital, is it?

This from www.nme.com :
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The relaunch announcement follows a week of unrest which has left 20
staff, including DJs and programme assistants, sacked and survivors
shunted to new slots. Among those badly hit was DJ Gary Crowley who is
thought to have resigned after being asked to host a five-hour show
running from 1am until 6am. Crowley left the station on Wednesday
afternoon, saying to colleagues, "It's not good."

Crowley's manager told NME that the DJ has gone away for the weekend
and that his future with XFM was "unclear".
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I see Claire (sp?) Sturgess is still on, and at night. I might have to
plague her with requests (e-mails, faxes, calls, horses head in her
bed) for an appearance by Ricky Gervais. If you all feel the same way
inclined, please join me on Monday night at 10pm.

End quote from www.nme.com :

NME writer Keith Cameron is among former XFM staff critical of the
changes. "I think it's become a travesty of an alternative radio
station. I'm not surprised they've taken the 'alternative' off the
logo because it would be a laughable claim. It's like Barclays Bank
running an indie station. XFM would not have existed had it not been
for stations like Capital having it their own way for so long. There's
absolutely no point for the station to exist now."

and that list of bands again:

> "Bands that with (sic) be played on Xfm...
> Ash, Babybird, Beastie Boys, Beck, Ben Folds Five, Bluetones, Blur,
> Candyskins, Catatonia, Chemical Brothers, Eagle-Eye Cherry,
> Cornershop, Cranberries, Dakota Moon, Dave Matthews Band, Eels,
> Electrasy, Embrace, Fatboy Slim, Foo Fighters, Fun Lovin' Criminals,
> Garbage, Gomez, Harvey Danger, Kula Shaker, Manic Street Preachers,
> Mansun, Marcy Playground, Oasis, Ocean Colour Scene, Placebo,
> Portishead, Prodigy, Pulp, Radiohead, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Reef,
> Republica, Rocket From The Crypt, REM, Seahorses, Semisonic, Shed
> Seven, Skunk Anansie, Space, Sprung Monkey, Stereophonics, Suede,
> Supergrass, The Audience (sic), Verve (sic)"

Aside from those I've never heard of (but I bet they *rawk*), aren't
most of these acts on major labels with plenty of $$$??? behind them?

They've turned Xfm into a payola money-making machine. Bye-bye small
labels with no cash - back to 8 hours a week of John Peel with you!

I'll shut up now.

Jim

Andrew Gambier

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Aug 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/22/98
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In article <35e3f7d9...@nntp.netcomuk.co.uk>, Jim Hanner
<esc...@netcomuk.co.uk> writes

>I'll shut up now.
>
>Jim

Please don't. Isn't there just the slightest chance we can help them to
realise the error of their ways?

(I'm the lucky one... leaving London in 2 weeks for 2 years. But I'd
like there to be a decent radio station here when I get back).

Rod Begbie

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Aug 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/22/98
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In article <4XZs5FAk...@gambier.demon.co.uk>,

Andrew Gambier <and...@gambier.demon.co.uk> writes:
> (I'm the lucky one... leaving London in 2 weeks for 2 years. But I'd
> like there to be a decent radio station here when I get back).

I'm the unlucky one - I arrive in London next weekend for a month, and I
was really looking forward to hearing xfm at last.

Ho-hum. At least there's the Belle & Sebastian gig to look forward to.

Rod.

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louise

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Aug 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/22/98
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Oh my god, i can't believe this! I tuned into Xfm on friday morning to hear
continuous tracks and didn't have much idea of what was going on, though i
knew Capital were taking over at some point. I've just heard bloody
Republica on the loop-i can't take much more of this-bring back Ricky
Gervaise, Sheldon, even Gary Crowley!

Jim Hanner wrote in message <35e3f7d9...@nntp.netcomuk.co.uk>...


>On Fri, 21 Aug 1998 18:32:01 +0100, Paul Speller
><paulspellerit.cause.I've....@geocities.com> wrote:
>
>>

>This from www.nme.com :
>-Among those badly hit was DJ Gary Crowley who is


>thought to have resigned after being asked to host a five-hour show
>running from 1am until 6am. Crowley left the station on Wednesday
>afternoon, saying to colleagues, "It's not good."
>
>Crowley's manager told NME that the DJ has gone away for the weekend
>and that his future with XFM was "unclear".
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>

Poor Crowley - he may be a bit annoying but 1 to 6am?? it's harsh! Right,
i'm going to put on a CD now cos if i hear that 'Huge sandwich experience!'
ad once more i'm gonna scream! Arrgghhh...

Louise


louise

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Aug 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/22/98
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>. I've
>never heard of James Heming, Jeff Young is (I think) a current Capital
>FM DJ.
>

Has anyone heard either of these DJs?
the future looks bleak...

Louise

nick xx

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Aug 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/22/98
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louise wrote in message ...


James Heming has been brought in from Invicta Fm - hardly notorious for
their alternative tendencies..

nick xx

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Andrew Gambier

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Aug 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/22/98
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In article <RJzD1.2310$rA3.1...@news-reader.bt.net>, louise
<lou...@lineone.net> writes

>Oh my god, i can't believe this! I tuned into Xfm on friday morning to hear
>continuous tracks and didn't have much idea of what was going on, though i
>knew Capital were taking over at some point. I've just heard bloody
>Republica on the loop-i can't take much more of this-bring back Ricky
>Gervaise, Sheldon, even Gary Crowley!

A thought I just had (yeah, I know... slow as hell). Who were Xfm's
main advertisers? My brain just switches off as soon as the adverts
start so I haven't a clue.

But we should probably be contacting them en masse to let them know we
won't be listening any more unless Capital addresses the 24/7
deficiencies in their scheduling.

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Xfm radio hell
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Jim Hanner

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On Sat, 22 Aug 1998 18:36:33 +0100, Andrew Gambier
<and...@gambier.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>A thought I just had (yeah, I know... slow as hell). Who were Xfm's
>main advertisers? My brain just switches off as soon as the adverts
>start so I haven't a clue.

They didn't have many advertisers, except for that bloody Diet Coke
thing with the annoying music.

>But we should probably be contacting them en masse to let them know we
>won't be listening any more unless Capital addresses the 24/7
>deficiencies in their scheduling.

Somebody's put a petition up at:

http://www.netcomuk.co.uk/~nsheff/xfm/index.html

There's a bit of information there, too.

Jim


Paul Speller

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louise wrote:

> i'm going to put on a CD now cos if i hear that 'Huge sandwich experience!'
> ad once more i'm gonna scream! Arrgghhh...

Yeah they seem to have the fucking ads on a loop too don't they? There's
that bastard one, then there's the one about body piercings with that
tosser talking in that crap accent and then there's about five different
ones for all sorts of different things, all narrated by Steve Pacamac.
Bollocks.

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Paul Speller

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nick xx wrote:

> James Heming has been brought in from Invicta Fm - hardly notorious for
> their alternative tendencies..

I went for a job there once. Cunts.

Paul Speller

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Andrew Gambier wrote:

> Who were Xfm's main advertisers?

Diet Coke, London Transport, the Aquarium ("this Thursday!"), Exchange
and Mart, Oasis (the drink), that drug that contains caffeine and
relieves tiredness...ProPlus, that's the one, and, er, Steve Lamacq.

Rhodri

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Paul Speller <paulspelle...@geocities.com> wrote:

> > James Heming has been brought in from Invicta Fm - hardly notorious for
> > their alternative tendencies..
>
> I went for a job there once. Cunts.

he he. Your getting as miserable and bitter as me, Paul.

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Simon

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On Thu, 20 Aug 1998 20:38:42 GMT, esc...@netcomuk.co.uk (Jim Hanner)
wrote:


>This bit is interesting...


>
>"Bands that with (sic) be played on Xfm...
>Ash, Babybird, Beastie Boys, Beck, Ben Folds Five, Bluetones, Blur,
>Candyskins, Catatonia, Chemical Brothers, Eagle-Eye Cherry,
>Cornershop, Cranberries, Dakota Moon, Dave Matthews Band, Eels,
>Electrasy, Embrace, Fatboy Slim, Foo Fighters, Fun Lovin' Criminals,
>Garbage, Gomez, Harvey Danger, Kula Shaker, Manic Street Preachers,
>Mansun, Marcy Playground, Oasis, Ocean Colour Scene, Placebo,
>Portishead, Prodigy, Pulp, Radiohead, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Reef,
>Republica, Rocket From The Crypt, REM, Seahorses, Semisonic, Shed
>Seven, Skunk Anansie, Space, Sprung Monkey, Stereophonics, Suede,
>Supergrass, The Audience (sic), Verve (sic)"

And great thunder will come from my hiney. Some of that is complete
and utter shit. I thought that the radio in the US sucked arse - but
some of that stuff is just terrible. Just the fact that they dropped
specialty shows is bad enough, 24-7 of one format is too much.

>It looks like a shift towards US-style college rock, even though us
>and the Yanks have drifted miles apart musically over the past couple
>of years. And no, I've never heard of some of those bands either.
>Seems we can bid farewell to those nifty dance tracks, like that
>Psychedelia Smith one, that they slipped into the schedule too.

Definitely more US college rocky, but some of that stuff would never
be picked by college stations (manics, shed seven, bluetones, space).
Some of those bands you've never heard probably suck because... well
thats what I thought of them.

As far as US and brit music styles, comparing them and their music
scenes is like comparing an apple tree vineyard to a weedy garden.
Some good stuff, but what the fuck is the rest of this shit? There
are certainly some bad apples from Europe, but who can compare to
Hanson?

On a separate note, one of my favorite US bands, (shameless plug)
Dora Flood, have finished recording their album. Very early 90's
madchester-ish, and fucking incredible. Check their site out at
www.doraflood.com to check out some samples.

>Let's hope this flops and Capital and Geldof get very, very badly
>burned.

Complain, don't listen, and just hope...

simon
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Paul Speller

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Rhodri wrote I wrote:

> > I went for a job there once. Cunts.
> he he. Your getting as miserable and bitter as me, Paul.

Oh yeah. I was trying to think who I reminded me of there.

Jim Hanner

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On Sat, 22 Aug 1998 19:43:50 +0100, Paul Speller
<paulspelle...@geocities.com> wrote:

>Andrew Gambier wrote:
>
>> Who were Xfm's main advertisers?
>
>Diet Coke, London Transport, the Aquarium ("this Thursday!"), Exchange
>and Mart, Oasis (the drink), that drug that contains caffeine and
>relieves tiredness...ProPlus, that's the one, and, er, Steve Lamacq.

Stoppit - I'm getting nostalgic! Was "Ealing Tertiary College" on Xfm
before the tape loop?

Jim

Andrew Gambier

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In article <35e324cc...@nntp.netcomuk.co.uk>, Jim Hanner
<esc...@netcomuk.co.uk> writes
>

>Stoppit - I'm getting nostalgic! Was "Ealing Tertiary College" on Xfm
>before the tape loop?
>

Hehe, what about Cuervo Gold? Those awful Macdonalds ads?

Paul Speller

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Jim Hanner wrote I wrote Andrew Gambier wrote:

> >> Who were Xfm's main advertisers?
> >Diet Coke, London Transport, the Aquarium ("this Thursday!"), Exchange
> >and Mart, Oasis (the drink), that drug that contains caffeine and
> >relieves tiredness...ProPlus, that's the one, and, er, Steve Lamacq.

> Stoppit - I'm getting nostalgic! Was "Ealing Tertiary College" on Xfm
> before the tape loop?

Yeah, it certainly was. There were loads of unis and colleges
advertising last year when it had just started too. Anyone remember that
one for ULU where these two blokes were talking about one of them
ringing his mum or summat and it got to a really crap and not even
vaguely funny punchline and the music in the backgroud sort of did one
of those comedy endings? No? that's just me then. Arse.

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On Sat, 22 Aug 1998 20:51:12 GMT, si...@c.email.below.2.reply (Simon)
wrote:

>And great thunder will come from my hiney. Some of that is complete
>and utter shit. I thought that the radio in the US sucked arse - but
>some of that stuff is just terrible. Just the fact that they dropped
>specialty shows is bad enough, 24-7 of one format is too much.

Most of that music just isn't suitable for an overnight show really.
Similarly, I can't imagine Gary Crowley broadcasting from 1-6am, as
was first announced by Capital. Can you imagine hearing his chirpy
tones and that playlist at 2am when you're driving home from a late
one? Or when you have to get up early and you stick the radio on to
break the creepy silence? Nah - no wonder Crowley resigned. Wonder if
he'll go back to GLR and whther they'd want a deserter back! So now
John Kennedy is on 7 nights a week from about 1-6am. "It's that or
nothing, John".

>Complain, don't listen, and just hope...

But you've got to listen because you have to prove that Capital are
breaching Xfm's "Promise of Performance", which they very feasibly may
do. I don't know what powers the authorities have, but I don't think
we should take defeat for granted at this stage. We've been talking
about this for three days, but it isn't "news" yet. Once the music and
media press cover it next week it will undoubtedly become a campaign.
I don't think Steve Sutherland is going to take his contract being
terminated and the NME news desk being dropped lying down, somehow.

Jim

Ronan Flood

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esc...@netcomuk.co.uk (Jim Hanner) wrote:

> I don't think Steve Sutherland is going to take his contract being
> terminated and the NME news desk being dropped lying down, somehow.

What contract? AFAIK, both his appearences on X-Rated and the news
desk stuff were done for free. That aside, I'm sure he's not happy,
and nor is Keith Cameron, who was on contract.

Jonathan Tranter

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In article <35DDAF11...@geocities.com>, Paul Speller <paulspelleri
t.cause.I've....@geocities.com> writes

<skip>

>The loop they've been playing for the past few days features amongst
>others:
>
>Republica - From The Rush Hour With Love
>Radiohead - Karma Police
>Gomez - Whippin' Piccadilly (no complaints from me on that one)
>The Charlatans - North Country Boy
>The Dandy Warhols - Boys Better
>Fun Lovin' Criminals - Love Unlimited
>Supernaturals - that one about not being built to get up at that time
>Ash's new one I think
>Morcheeba - summatorother (not Tape Loop which proves Crapital's lack of
>sense of irony)
>Blur - Song 2
>Roddy Frame - Reason For Living
>Hole - Celebrity Skin
>Fat Boy Slim - Rockerfeller Skank
>Beastie Boys - Intergalactic
>Marcy Playground - Sex and Candy
>Harvey Danger - Flagpole Sitta
>Shed Seven - some shite
>Embrace - My Weakness Is Singing or summat

Hey cool, I've been able to get Xfm outside of London all along. It's
called BBC Radio 1, minus the kiddy pop of course. The only songs there
that haven't featured on the R1 playlist I -think- are Roddy Frame and
Gomez but then they've both been Mark Radcliffe's and Jayne
Middlemisses' (really!) records of the week.

Here's a good idea, seeing as Capital want to get a station like R1 why
don't they poach Andy Parsnip (especially seeing as he's doing such a
good job of turning R1 into Capital at the moment), and then Roger
Bannister would be forced to hire the old boss of Xfm to run R1? That
way everybody in the UK could get a good music station, and all the
chart loving people would still have loads of commercial radio stations
to listen to.

Okay, shite idea but it's worth a try.

Jonathan

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In article <VhMHkIAy...@gambier.demon.co.uk>, Andrew Gambier
<and...@gambier.demon.co.uk> writes
>In article <35e88926...@nntp.netcomuk.co.uk>, Jim Hanner
><esc...@netcomuk.co.uk> writes
>
>>Fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck. Where's Keith Cameron? Where's Mimi
>>Kearns? Where's Ricky Gervaise? Where's Dave Arnoff? Where's Sheldon,
>>Benner, Kennedy?
>
>Yep, totally agree. This is a bleak day for British radio. Thank god
>I'm leaving the capital (for a city with decent radio provision) in two
>weeks. Otherwise I'd go round to Capital FM tower and shove my radio up
>the Cheif Executive's arse whilst still plugged in.
>
>Pick that one up for your summary of the week, Sneakpeek!

Does all of this mean that I can at last stop being jealous of all you
London lot who get Xfm! :) I guess what makes it even worse is the trend
towards mainstream that R1's started taking, although I guess it was
completely mainstream anyway compared to Xfm.

Still, now that Capital own Xfm I'd still be grateful if they'd replace
their naff 96.4FM BRMB service with it in the West Midlands! (BRMB Radio
as it used to be called was naff even before Capital got their hands on
it so that's a little different!)

Paul Speller

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Ronan Flood wrote Jim Hanner wrote:

> > I don't think Steve Sutherland is going to take his contract being
> > terminated and the NME news desk being dropped lying down, somehow.
> What contract? AFAIK, both his appearences on X-Rated and the news
> desk stuff were done for free. That aside, I'm sure he's not happy,
> and nor is Keith Cameron, who was on contract.

Hmm. Could this be the first time Steve Sutherland and Mark Sheldon will
be agreed on something?

dav...@hotmail.com

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Jeff Young sounds like a Radio 2 DJ -- he should just fuck right off.

In article <xMzD1.2316$rA3.1...@news-reader.bt.net>,
"louise" <lou...@lineone.net> wrote:
>
>
> >. I've


> >never heard of James Heming, Jeff Young is (I think) a current Capital
> >FM DJ.
> >
> Has anyone heard either of these DJs?
> the future looks bleak...
>
> Louise
>
>

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If I hear that one with the yank going on about the size of his sandwich once
more, I'm gonna personally go down to that shop and ram the 6 foot sandwich
right up his arse.

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Paul Speller <paulspelle...@geocities.com> wrote:
> louise wrote:
>
> > i'm going to put on a CD now cos if i hear that 'Huge sandwich experience!'
> > ad once more i'm gonna scream! Arrgghhh...
>
> Yeah they seem to have the fucking ads on a loop too don't they? There's
> that bastard one, then there's the one about body piercings with that
> tosser talking in that crap accent and then there's about five different
> ones for all sorts of different things, all narrated by Steve Pacamac.
> Bollocks.
>

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Jim Hanner

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On 23 Aug 1998 20:55:45 GMT, ro...@noc.ulcc.ac.uk (Ronan Flood) wrote:

>esc...@netcomuk.co.uk (Jim Hanner) wrote:
>
>> I don't think Steve Sutherland is going to take his contract being
>> terminated and the NME news desk being dropped lying down, somehow.
>
>What contract? AFAIK, both his appearences on X-Rated and the news
>desk stuff were done for free. That aside, I'm sure he's not happy,
>and nor is Keith Cameron, who was on contract.

Sorry, didn't really mean "contract" when I referred to SS. I wrote
the above after getting an e-mail from Brendon Fitzgerald at nme.com,
who darkly referred to Cameron and Sutherland having been
"terminated".

Still, the music press should be interesting this week. I don't think
the NME are going to be very happy about it, and the failure of MM's
"campaign" (The Doctor Fox one) can't be ignored in their rag, either.


Jim

Jim Hanner

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On Sun, 23 Aug 1998 23:38:00 +0100, Paul Speller
<paulspelle...@geocities.com> wrote:

>Ronan Flood wrote Jim Hanner wrote:
>
>> > I don't think Steve Sutherland is going to take his contract being
>> > terminated and the NME news desk being dropped lying down, somehow.
>> What contract? AFAIK, both his appearences on X-Rated and the news
>> desk stuff were done for free. That aside, I'm sure he's not happy,
>> and nor is Keith Cameron, who was on contract.
>

>Hmm. Could this be the first time Steve Sutherland and Mark Sheldon will
>be agreed on something?

Not to mention all the other NME hacks who've been lucky enough to get
a break on radio, and used to have a warm "Steve Lamacq" vision of
their future careers ;-). Musn't forget Simon Williams, sacked from
the old Xfm by Chris Parry, the very bloke who sold it to Capital and
still retains a shareholding in the station. He'll roast the bastard,
hopefully!

Jim

Rod Begbie

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In article <35f5e641...@nntp.netcomuk.co.uk>,

esc...@netcomuk.co.uk (Jim Hanner) writes:
> Still, the music press should be interesting this week. I don't think
> the NME are going to be very happy about it, and the failure of MM's
> "campaign" (The Doctor Fox one) can't be ignored in their rag, either.

Yeah, but remember what their campaign said? "We want Cerys, not
Celine."? Well, it sounds like that's exactly what Capital are giving
them.

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Ronan Flood

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esc...@netcomuk.co.uk (Jim Hanner) wrote:

> Still, the music press should be interesting this week. I don't think
> the NME are going to be very happy about it, and the failure of MM's
> "campaign" (The Doctor Fox one) can't be ignored in their rag, either.

Hmm, they both cover it, but not really any more than the article
on www.nme.com. No editorial condemning the move, for example.

Paul Speller

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Jim Hanner wrote:

> Musn't forget Simon Williams, sacked from
> the old Xfm

Why was he sacked anyway? He was pretty good.

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Paul Speller <paulspeller...@geocities.com> wrote:

> Jim Hanner wrote:
> > Musn't forget Simon Williams, sacked from the old Xfm
> Why was he sacked anyway? He was pretty good.

AIUI he wasn't sacked, as such, although it amounts to the same thing.
Xfm management considered what he was playing -- get this -- "too
alternative" for his Sunday afternoon timeslot, and wanted to move
him to another time. He refused, so that was the end of it.

Paul Speller

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Ronan Flood wrote Jim Hanner wrote:

> > Still, the music press should be interesting this week. I don't think
> > the NME are going to be very happy about it, and the failure of MM's
> > "campaign" (The Doctor Fox one) can't be ignored in their rag, either.
> Hmm, they both cover it, but not really any more than the article
> on www.nme.com. No editorial condemning the move, for example.

That's extraordinary. Surely there hasn't perhaps been any money sent
their way or anything?? It's those sinister forces of paella again...

Jim Hanner

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On 25 Aug 1998 16:42:36 GMT, ro...@noc.ulcc.ac.uk (Ronan Flood) wrote:

>esc...@netcomuk.co.uk (Jim Hanner) wrote:
>
>> Still, the music press should be interesting this week. I don't think
>> the NME are going to be very happy about it, and the failure of MM's
>> "campaign" (The Doctor Fox one) can't be ignored in their rag, either.
>
>Hmm, they both cover it, but not really any more than the article
>on www.nme.com. No editorial condemning the move, for example.

Uh-oh. I'm just hoping the hacks were all too busy at the V98s to
cover it properly. If they don't cover this, I need suggestions as to
how the fuck I'm gonna chuck a brick through the window of the 25th
and 26th floor of King's Reach Tower ;-)

Jim

martin

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Aug 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/26/98
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Ronan Flood wrote:
>
> Paul Speller <paulspeller...@geocities.com> wrote:
>
> > Jim Hanner wrote:
> > > Musn't forget Simon Williams, sacked from the old Xfm
> > Why was he sacked anyway? He was pretty good.
>
> AIUI he wasn't sacked, as such, although it amounts to the same thing.
> Xfm management considered what he was playing -- get this -- "too
> alternative" for his Sunday afternoon timeslot, and wanted to move
> him to another time. He refused, so that was the end of it.
>


Correct, he was forced into a postion to resign for playing the best
daytime music in the history of british radio.

The only DJ to play one of the most radical, innovative rock bands on
the planet at the mo, the mighty

ARCTURUS

he also played Cradle of Filth

ne...@derwent.co.uk

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Well there you go then. There seems to be an unwritten rule on UK radio
these days that you're not allowed to play heavy metal. Any other kind of
minority music goes but metal , nope (unless its on John Peels show but
he's allowed to play anything he likes anyway :). Being a metal fan this
seriously pisses me off as now I have to read reviews and rely on a
jounalists opinion of a new album rather than hearing it myself before I
buy it.

NJR

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