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Chaz York

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Listened with amazement to Lawley's pushing of a CD of classical snaps
(24 tracks) on Steve Wright's R2 show this arvo. He obviously linked
her to DID (the CD is titled '24 classics in Paradise' or very similar)
and she performed like a trained seal - and SW kept the questions within
her remit.

When asked about the occasional guest / format anomalies of DID she
knocked Otto Preminger for refusing to say what book he wanted, and
regarding Elizabeth Swarchkopf(sp?) she said that 'she (ES) must have
misunderstood the format, poor dear'! (choosing all eight records from
her own recorded repertoire). Sue never thought to add to her statements
of 'in-depth research and trying to get from the person what we would
all like to know' the simple fact that she could have prevented the ES
fiasco if she had been on the ball. I thought she had plumbed the
depths of poor broadcasting in DID but it seems that there may be more
to come.

She even had the gall to allude to the fact that at heart she is a
journo and 'my journalistic skills' is what makes DID interviews so
good! Poor old Roy - he never deserved this 'air head' as a millennium
replacement.

I now know who Sally Smedley (the Globelink presenter from Drop the Dead
Donkey) was modelled on - Sue Lawley - without a doubt.
--
Cheers Chaz

Steve Brooks

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Chaz York <ch...@obelisksystems.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:21fNvFAk...@obelisksystems.demon.co.uk...
<snip>

>
> I now know who Sally Smedley (the Globelink presenter from Drop the Dead
> Donkey) was modelled on - Sue Lawley - without a doubt.

Er, you reckon our Sue likes annonymous sexual encounters with
truck drivers in service stations then?

SB


Chaz York

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In article <7vsqms$jdm$8...@news6.svr.pol.co.uk>, Steve Brooks <steve@REMOV
ETHIS6vaudrey.freeserve.co.uk> writes

Well, she was on Radio 2, mixed in with the 'truckers' travel reports -
spooky coincidence?
--
Cheers Chaz

Jon Holmes

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Remember that episode of DTDD when Dave handed the tapes he'd made of Sally
shagging the sound man? Well surely you've heard the Sue Lawley story? 'Twas
indeed based on the lady herself....

Jon.

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Will van Zwanenberg

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In article <7vsqms$jdm$8...@news6.svr.pol.co.uk>, "Steve Brooks"
<st...@REMOVETHIS6vaudrey.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

> Chaz York <ch...@obelisksystems.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:21fNvFAk...@obelisksystems.demon.co.uk...
> <snip>
> >
> > I now know who Sally Smedley (the Globelink presenter from Drop the Dead
> > Donkey) was modelled on - Sue Lawley - without a doubt.
>
> Er, you reckon our Sue likes annonymous sexual encounters with
> truck drivers in service stations then?
>

> SB

It wouldn't surprise me ...
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Micky Armo

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Jon Holmes wrote in message
<941798103.17417.0...@news.demon.co.uk>...

>Remember that episode of DTDD when Dave handed the tapes
he'd made of Sally
>shagging the sound man? Well surely you've heard the Sue
Lawley story? 'Twas
>indeed based on the lady herself....
>

No. Do tell.

Martin Palmer

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On Fri, 5 Nov 1999 15:18:52 -0000, "Micky Armo" <my_...@isp.ext> gave
forth, thus:

I first heard this about 15 years ago. Apparently "a well known female
broadcaster" (and I'm not making any implications here as to who it is
*alleged* to be...) was caught by an un-manned, but 'live', BBC TV
camera, in an empty studio, bent over a desk enjoying the intimate
attentions of a (male) colleague.

I believe the phrase "f*** me till I fart" was the one that engraved
itself upon the memories of those enjoying the interlude in a control
room, whilst the tape rolled, somewhere in the depths of Television
Centre. Or so I've heard.

Martin Palmer
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Will van Zwanenberg

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In article <382310f4...@news.u-net.com>,
use@your_hatpalmerco.u-net.com wrote:

> On Fri, 5 Nov 1999 15:18:52 -0000, "Micky Armo" <my_...@isp.ext> gave
> forth, thus:
>
> >
> >Jon Holmes wrote in message
> ><941798103.17417.0...@news.demon.co.uk>...
> >>Remember that episode of DTDD when Dave handed the tapes
> >he'd made of Sally
> >>shagging the sound man? Well surely you've heard the Sue
> >Lawley story? 'Twas
> >>indeed based on the lady herself....
> >>
> >
> >No. Do tell.
>
> I first heard this about 15 years ago. Apparently "a well known female
> broadcaster" (and I'm not making any implications here as to who it is
> *alleged* to be...) was caught by an un-manned, but 'live', BBC TV
> camera, in an empty studio, bent over a desk enjoying the intimate
> attentions of a (male) colleague.
>
> I believe the phrase "f*** me till I fart" was the one that engraved
> itself upon the memories of those enjoying the interlude in a control
> room, whilst the tape rolled, somewhere in the depths of Television
> Centre. Or so I've heard.

Well I can better that ...

My uncle who is a freelance TV director, worked for a few months last
year, for Ginger productions (Chris Evans TV production company).

It was during that time, that Mr Evans was caught by the close circuit TV
system that exists at the riverside studios masturbating whilst in his
dressing room.

Somewhat inevitably, tapes of this incident qucikly circulated around the
Ginger production offices and into the hands of my uncle.

Martin Palmer

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On Fri, 05 Nov 1999 22:23:44 +0000,
will@YOUR_CLOTHINGwillz.demon.co.uk (Will van Zwanenberg) gave forth,
thus:


>Well I can better that ...
>
>My uncle who is a freelance TV director, worked for a few months last
>year, for Ginger productions (Chris Evans TV production company).
>
>It was during that time, that Mr Evans was caught by the close circuit TV
>system that exists at the riverside studios masturbating whilst in his
>dressing room.
>
>Somewhat inevitably, tapes of this incident qucikly circulated around the
>Ginger production offices and into the hands of my uncle.

That's a winner - unless someone's got a better one....?

Wonder how long before it finds it's way onto the web? Will, this is
your assignment - talk to your uncle soon....

paw

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In article <3823608d...@news.u-net.com>, Martin Palmer
<use@your_hatpalmerco.u-net.com> tapped out in morse on the cell bars:

>On Fri, 05 Nov 1999 22:23:44 +0000,
>will@YOUR_CLOTHINGwillz.demon.co.uk (Will van Zwanenberg) gave forth,
>thus:
>
>
>>Well I can better that ...
>>
>>My uncle who is a freelance TV director, worked for a few months last
>>year, for Ginger productions (Chris Evans TV production company).
>>
>>It was during that time, that Mr Evans was caught by the close circuit TV
>>system that exists at the riverside studios masturbating whilst in his
>>dressing room.
>>
>>Somewhat inevitably, tapes of this incident qucikly circulated around the
>>Ginger production offices and into the hands of my uncle.
>
>That's a winner - unless someone's got a better one....?
>
>Wonder how long before it finds it's way onto the web? Will, this is
>your assignment - talk to your uncle soon....
>
Didn't the ginger one say that the whole video tape story was a myth and
he offered a reward to anyone who had er, hard evidence of it?
--
paul
58-88 Sheffield 88-97 Milton Keynes 97-99 London 99-?? Seattle

Matthew Malthouse

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In article <382310f4...@news.u-net.com>,
use@your_hatpalmerco.u-net.com (Martin Palmer) wrote:

} I first heard this about 15 years ago. Apparently "a well known female
} broadcaster" (and I'm not making any implications here as to who it is
} *alleged* to be...) was caught by an un-manned, but 'live', BBC TV
} camera, in an empty studio, bent over a desk enjoying the intimate
} attentions of a (male) colleague.
}
} I believe the phrase "f*** me till I fart" was the one that engraved
} itself upon the memories of those enjoying the interlude in a control
} room, whilst the tape rolled, somewhere in the depths of Television
} Centre. Or so I've heard.

When I heard that one it was sound recording at Broadcasting House. ;-)

But I've heard it often enough, from people connected to the industry, to
feel that it's essentially true even if the details vary inm the telling.

Matthew

--
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http://www.calmeilles.demon.co.uk/index.html

JAF

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On Fri, 05 Nov 1999 22:23:44 +0000, will@YOUR_CLOTHINGwillz.demon.co.uk
(Will van Zwanenberg) wrote:


>Somewhat inevitably, tapes of this incident qucikly circulated around the
>Ginger production offices and into the hands of my uncle.

Can we hope, no not hope, I didn't mean hope, honest, expect to see a
downloadable version on your web pages soon, so that it can be widely
circulated, and cause a huge scandal, and hopefully get him off the
air(1)?

(1)I think this would be a worthwhile service to humanity.
--
JAF jaf@jaf .co.uk

JAF

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On Sat, 06 Nov 1999 02:20:53 +0000, use...@calmeilles.demon.co.uk
(Matthew Malthouse) wrote:


>When I heard that one it was sound recording at Broadcasting House. ;-)
>
>But I've heard it often enough, from people connected to the industry, to
>feel that it's essentially true even if the details vary inm the telling.
>
>Matthew

I know this a bit aol-ish, but here goes anyway.....

Me too!
Though, having said that, I can't help thinking that it would be on
thousands of hdd or floppy discs by now, like the 'Anthea Turner being
set on fire' video clip.

--
JAF jaf@jaf .co.uk

Jon Holmes

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Allegedly Ms. Lawley was wearing a radio mic which of course could still be
monitored by an engineer at any time it's switched on. She had a dressing
room encounter with a sound man and the whole thing was taped. It's well
known throughout the industry so much so that not only was it the basis of
thjat DTDD episode but also referenced in The Day Today - remember the sting
"Fact me 'Til I Fart'? A paraphrasing of the Great Lawley herself, if
rumours are to be believed.

And the Chris Evans thing. The version I know is that he was caught as part
of a Noel Edmonds stunt for a celeb version of NTV. The hidden cameras were
in his house but he wasn't watching The Bearded Tosser's programme but in
fact wanking to Baywatch on the other side. Rumour compounded a few weeks
later when his band of sycpohants presented him with a Baywatch video for
Christmas on TFI. He seemed to know the reference at the time .....

AND while we're on the subject - (I hope no showbiz lawyers read this NG)
there is apparently another Edmonds 'wanking' incident involving secret
cameras for a 'Gotcha' and Carol Smillie. She was allegedly left alone in a
dressing room to try on all sorts of ridiculous costumes for a fake TV shoot
and decided to have a quick lady-shuffle. The horrified director had to run
down and tell her what was going on. There was apparently one tape. The
director, what a gent, gave it to Ms. Smillie there and then.

There. I'm off to hire a good libel lawyer.

Jon.

Will van Zwanenberg <will@YOUR_CLOTHINGwillz.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> In article <7vsqms$jdm$8...@news6.svr.pol.co.uk>, "Steve Brooks"
> <st...@REMOVETHIS6vaudrey.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > Chaz York <ch...@obelisksystems.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:21fNvFAk...@obelisksystems.demon.co.uk...
> > <snip>
> > >
> > > I now know who Sally Smedley (the Globelink presenter from Drop the
Dead
> > > Donkey) was modelled on - Sue Lawley - without a doubt.
> >
> > Er, you reckon our Sue likes annonymous sexual encounters with
> > truck drivers in service stations then?
> >
> > SB
>
> It wouldn't surprise me ...

Chris J Dixon

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Matthew Malthouse wrote:

>When I heard that one it was sound recording at Broadcasting House. ;-)
>
>But I've heard it often enough, from people connected to the industry, to
>feel that it's essentially true even if the details vary inm the telling.
>

So, using that test, the Mars bar myth would have to be true
after all?

Chris
--
Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK
chris...@easynet.co.uk

Have dancing shoes, will ceilidh.

Will van Zwanenberg

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In article <3823608d...@news.u-net.com>,
use@your_hatpalmerco.u-net.com wrote:

> On Fri, 05 Nov 1999 22:23:44 +0000,

> will@YOUR_CLOTHINGwillz.demon.co.uk (Will van Zwanenberg) gave forth,
> thus:
>
>
> >Well I can better that ...
> >
> >My uncle who is a freelance TV director, worked for a few months last
> >year, for Ginger productions (Chris Evans TV production company).
> >
> >It was during that time, that Mr Evans was caught by the close circuit TV
> >system that exists at the riverside studios masturbating whilst in his
> >dressing room.
> >

> >Somewhat inevitably, tapes of this incident qucikly circulated around the
> >Ginger production offices and into the hands of my uncle.
>

> That's a winner - unless someone's got a better one....?
>
> Wonder how long before it finds it's way onto the web? Will, this is
> your assignment - talk to your uncle soon....

I have asked him as it happens ... My problem is that I have no idea how
one goes about converting a film recorded on VHS to either a quicktime
movie or an MPEG.

If anyone can knows how to do this and was prepared to help me out, I'd be
very grateful.

Will van Zwanenberg

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In article <SqRZIBAF...@home.com>, paw <acm...@bigfoot.com> wrote:

> In article <3823608d...@news.u-net.com>, Martin Palmer
> <use@your_hatpalmerco.u-net.com> tapped out in morse on the cell bars:

> >On Fri, 05 Nov 1999 22:23:44 +0000,
> >will@YOUR_CLOTHINGwillz.demon.co.uk (Will van Zwanenberg) gave forth,
> >thus:
> >
> >
> >>Well I can better that ...
> >>
> >>My uncle who is a freelance TV director, worked for a few months last
> >>year, for Ginger productions (Chris Evans TV production company).
> >>
> >>It was during that time, that Mr Evans was caught by the close circuit TV
> >>system that exists at the riverside studios masturbating whilst in his
> >>dressing room.
> >>
> >>Somewhat inevitably, tapes of this incident qucikly circulated around the
> >>Ginger production offices and into the hands of my uncle.
> >
> >That's a winner - unless someone's got a better one....?
> >
> >Wonder how long before it finds it's way onto the web? Will, this is
> >your assignment - talk to your uncle soon....
> >

> Didn't the ginger one say that the whole video tape story was a myth and
> he offered a reward to anyone who had er, hard evidence of it?

Well I can assure that it's genuine ....

Will van Zwanenberg

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In article <LwokOOLgCQgOH0...@4ax.com>, JAF
<j...@jaf.NOSPAMco.uk> wrote:

> On Fri, 05 Nov 1999 22:23:44 +0000, will@YOUR_CLOTHINGwillz.demon.co.uk
> (Will van Zwanenberg) wrote:
>
>
> >Somewhat inevitably, tapes of this incident qucikly circulated around the
> >Ginger production offices and into the hands of my uncle.
>

> Can we hope, no not hope, I didn't mean hope, honest, expect to see a
> downloadable version on your web pages soon, so that it can be widely
> circulated, and cause a huge scandal, and hopefully get him off the
> air(1)?
>
> (1)I think this would be a worthwhile service to humanity.
> --
> JAF jaf@jaf .co.uk

I personally have a 1/25th share in the ownership of a web server. If I
were to make a copy of this film available on the web, I would need to get
agreement with the other 24 owners to install a movie server (eg
realnetworks movie server). This is easier said than done.

Not only this, I need to know how to convert a VHS film to either an MPEG,
.wav, or quicktime movie. Does anyone know this is done?

Nicholas Salmond

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Both these storys are urban myths. Although you will hear many people
throughout the industry retelling them, you will never hear from anyone who
actually witnessed the events or view any tapes of the events. For one good
reason, they never happened.

Jon Holmes <j...@mellowend.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:941888867.7408.0...@news.demon.co.uk...

Nicholas Salmond

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However both Otto Preminger and Elizabeth Swarchkopf were interviewd by Mr
Plumley way before Sue joined DID.


Chaz York <ch...@obelisksystems.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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Chaz York

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In article <941888867.7408.0...@news.demon.co.uk>, Jon
Holmes <j...@mellowend.demon.co.uk> writes

>The horrified director had to run
>down and tell her what was going on. There was apparently one tape. The
>director, what a gent, gave it to Ms. Smillie there and then.

What did he do with the tape though >;)

>There. I'm off to hire a good libel lawyer.

I think Demon are fighting against a e-libel charge (and possibly
loosing) at the moment aren't they? The case being that they were
responsible for the posts of one of their users, or similar.
--
Cheers Chaz

Matthew Malthouse

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In article <3825e284...@news.easynet.co.uk>,

chris...@easynet.co.uk (Chris J Dixon) wrote:

} Matthew Malthouse wrote:
}
} >When I heard that one it was sound recording at Broadcasting House. ;-)
} >
} >But I've heard it often enough, from people connected to the industry,
to
} >feel that it's essentially true even if the details vary inm the
telling.
} >
} So, using that test, the Mars bar myth would have to be true
} after all?

Ah, that would depend on what the Mars bar myth is and whether the people
rcounting might reasonably be expected to have inside knowledge.

I only said "feel that it's essentially true". I'm not in a position to
know of a certainty.

Steve Brooks

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Will van Zwanenberg <will@YOUR_CLOTHINGwillz.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:will-05119...@willz.demon.co.uk...
<snip>

> Well I can better that ...
>
> My uncle who is a freelance TV director, worked for a few months last
> year, for Ginger productions (Chris Evans TV production company).
>
> It was during that time, that Mr Evans was caught by the close circuit TV
> system that exists at the riverside studios masturbating whilst in his
> dressing room.

I've always thought Evans was a complete w****r.

Thanks for the confirmation.

SB


Ian Collier

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Nicholas Salmond entertained uk.media.radio.bbc-r4 with the following story:

>Both these storys are urban myths.

Er, but there were three stories there. (Perhaps if you had posted the
right way up and trimmed the quoted material we would have known which
two you were referring to.)
--
---- Ian Collier : i...@comlab.ox.ac.uk : WWW page below
------ http://users.comlab.ox.ac.uk/ian.collier/imc.shtml


Will van Zwanenberg

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In article <vj0kOOQxt0hAw+...@4ax.com>,
wayne.foley@freeyour_shoesuk.com wrote:

> Will van Zwanenberg wrote in <will-06119...@willz.demon.co.uk> :
>
> >In article <3823608d...@news.u-net.com>,


> >use@your_hatpalmerco.u-net.com wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, 05 Nov 1999 22:23:44 +0000,

> >> will@YOUR_CLOTHINGwillz.demon.co.uk (Will van Zwanenberg) gave forth,
> >> thus:


> >>
> >>
> >> >Well I can better that ...
> >> >
> >> >My uncle who is a freelance TV director, worked for a few months last
> >> >year, for Ginger productions (Chris Evans TV production company).
> >> >
> >> >It was during that time, that Mr Evans was caught by the close circuit TV
> >> >system that exists at the riverside studios masturbating whilst in his
> >> >dressing room.
> >> >

> >> >Somewhat inevitably, tapes of this incident qucikly circulated around the
> >> >Ginger production offices and into the hands of my uncle.
> >>

> >> That's a winner - unless someone's got a better one....?
> >>
> >> Wonder how long before it finds it's way onto the web? Will, this is
> >> your assignment - talk to your uncle soon....
> >

> >I have asked him as it happens ... My problem is that I have no idea how
> >one goes about converting a film recorded on VHS to either a quicktime
> >movie or an MPEG.
> >

> Some of the Internet Cafes can do this, I know that this one :
> http://www.bushbang.com/our%20resources.htm
> has done an SVHS to realvideo and mp3 conversion recently.

if you want to do it yourself, how does one go about it?

Mac

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Will van Zwanenberg wrote:
>
>
>
> if you want to do it yourself, how does one go about it?
> --
with a tv card its easy, lots of s/ware available.

--
Mac / Smoketoomuch

Toby Barrett

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mat...@calmeilles.demon.co.uk (Matthew Malthouse) wrote in
<B4494105...@0.0.0.0>:
>But I've heard it [story of Sue Lawley recorded in flagrante] often enough,

>from people connected to the industry, to
>feel that it's essentially true even if the details vary inm the telling.

I've heard this said of Sarah Greene and a number of other women in the
media. As no real evidence has yet appeared, I think this story must be an
urban legend.

By the way, did anyone catch the latest Lawley-ism on 7 November? When
interviewing Willard White, something to the effect that "Oh come on, I can't
believe there's racism in _The World of Opera_". Why not? Because it's
"Culture"?

Toby

Chaz York

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In article <8E7859C42tobybarrmenotntnetwo@zharh00t>, Toby Barrett
<toby...@nortelnetworks.com> writes

I did. I thought he handled it very well and with dignity, but put her
in her place nicely. His candid but measured responses were very
interesting, I look forward to the repeat.

I noted she still takes no notice of the 'luxury' item and let him take
'seeds' without a murmur. Maybe she thought he was a 'spliffing' good
chap, but somehow I doubt it,

I had a chuckle at some of the posts in this thread and a bizarre
thought occurred to me. RP (it is said) used to take his guests to his
club (Garrick?) for luncheon etc. to get to know them before the prog.
Well, I mused, where would SL take them if she were to do the same?

No prizes for the Greasy Spoon Motel on the A1.
--
Cheers Chaz

Cyril

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On Sun, 07 Nov 1999 20:52:56 +0000,
will@YOUR_CLOTHINGwillz.demon.co.uk (Will van Zwanenberg) wrote:

>> >> >
>> >> >It was during that time, that Mr Evans was caught by the close circuit TV
>> >> >system that exists at the riverside studios masturbating whilst in his
>> >> >dressing room.
>> >> >
>

>if you want to do it yourself, how does one go about it?
>--

I should ask Chris Evans ;-)

Fnarr! Fnarr!

Cyril


Bob

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Chaz York wrote:

> Listened with amazement to Lawley's pushing of a CD of classical snaps
> (24 tracks) on Steve Wright's R2 show this arvo. He obviously linked
> her to DID (the CD is titled '24 classics in Paradise' or very similar)
> and she performed like a trained seal - and SW kept the questions within
> her remit.

(snip)

>
>
> Cheers Chaz

-----------------------------------------------------------------------

Sue Lawley, if I remember correctly, was the news bint who cut dead
the S.African ambassador after 2 minutes, when his government had
complained that they had not been allowed to put their point of view on
the BBC, following 194 hours of pro-Mandella propaganda, and had
been promised a miserable 4 minutes in which to counter.

Her arrogance and rudeness to the Ambassador, and subversion of
balanced reporting and of freedom of speech, was so blatant that she
should have been sacked on the spot, if only for bringing the BBC into
gross disrepute.

The BBC's "feel-good schoolgirl politics" over S.Africa probably cost
the lives of 10's thousands of blacks, some of them killed by Mandella's
butchers with car tyers burning around their neaks. Had this matter
been left to be handled by mature diplomats, without the hysterical TV
and media hype, the same result could have been achieved without the
deaths of so many innocent blacks.

If she is the reporter in question (and I think she was) that she is still
broadcasting on the BBC, is a bloody disgrace.

Bob Sims
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Cyril

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On Sat, 06 Nov 1999 14:38:02 +0000, use...@calmeilles.demon.co.uk
(Matthew Malthouse) wrote:
>
>Ah, that would depend on what the Mars bar myth is and whether the people
>rcounting might reasonably be expected to have inside knowledge.
>
If you want inside knowledge, I suggest you ask the Mars Bar ;-)

You can't get more inside than that.

Fnarr! Fnarr!

Cyril


Cyril

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On Sat, 06 Nov 1999 14:01:51 +0000,

will@YOUR_CLOTHINGwillz.demon.co.uk (Will van Zwanenberg) wrote:
>> >
>> Didn't the ginger one say that the whole video tape story was a myth and
>> he offered a reward to anyone who had er, hard evidence of it?
>
>Well I can assure that it's genuine ....
>--
Yes - I gather he bought back the tape at great expense.

This was partly to stop it falling into the wrong hands - but mainly
because he wanted it as a change from Baywatch ;-)

Fnarr! Fnarr!

Cyril


sik

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In article <B449EDCA...@0.0.0.0>, Matthew Malthouse <usenet@calmei
lles.demon.co.uk> uttered

>In article <3825e284...@news.easynet.co.uk>,
>chris...@easynet.co.uk (Chris J Dixon) wrote:
>
>} Matthew Malthouse wrote:
>}
>} >When I heard that one it was sound recording at Broadcasting House. ;-)
>} >
>} >But I've heard it often enough, from people connected to the industry,

>to
>} >feel that it's essentially true even if the details vary inm the
>telling.
>} >
>} So, using that test, the Mars bar myth would have to be true
>} after all?
>
>Ah, that would depend on what the Mars bar myth is and whether the people
>rcounting might reasonably be expected to have inside knowledge.
>
>I only said "feel that it's essentially true". I'm not in a position to
>know of a certainty.
>
i heardd (through the grape vine) that Ms Lawley's alleged act actually
constitutes a sackable offence from the Beeb - the other being failure
to produce a TV licence. Is this true?
--
sik

Lachie Macquarie

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In article <YyaKlGAnu$J4E...@couchend.demon.co.uk>, sik <sik@nospamco
uchend.demon.co.uk> writes

What driving a telly without due care and attention.
or being drunk in charge of a telly.
--
Lachie Macquarie, Bod an Deamhain I wish.

Peter Riocreux

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>> "sik" == sik <s...@nospamcouchend.demon.co.uk> writes:

sik> i heardd (through the grape vine) that Ms Lawley's alleged act
sik> actually constitutes a sackable offence from the Beeb - the other
sik> being failure to produce a TV licence. Is this true? -- sik

I know not whether shagging a soundman on mic' is a sackable offense,
but surely not having a TV license cannot be. If you have no TV, you
need not have a TV license, and I don't believe that even J. Burt
requires all BBC staff to have a TV.

Pete

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Oxford Road, MANCHESTER, M13 9PL, UK. <http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/amulet/>
Voice: +44 161-2753547 Mobile: +44 7970-611366 Fax: +44 161-2756236

Andy Mabbett

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In article <will-05119...@willz.demon.co.uk>, Will van
Zwanenberg <will@YOUR_CLOTHINGwillz.demon.co.uk> writes

>It was during that time, that Mr Evans was caught by the close circuit TV
>system that exists at the riverside studios masturbating whilst in his
>dressing room.

So?
--
Andy Mabbett
"If they censure you, they tell you to cut it out.
If they censor you, they just cut it out."

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