The slow exclusion of graduates from work.
big mouth strikes again
Have you noticed how its going now
in the standard it says "not even a first from
Oxford"is enough nowadays to guarantee a job
no siree they want you to have been to Erasmus
in holland or the sorbonne or stanford.
Well that lets me out.
When i graduated about 20 years ago you could
just about get a graduate job if you were from any uk
university though some of the modern ones had
bad names as "hippy".
Then came the 81 recession and they started to say
oh you just have a GOOD degree from a RED BRICK
one or oxbridge.
by 91 it was just oxbridge mainly .the new unis
ie ex polys were defintly no no as were jut about
all the rest,apparently they didnt cut the mustard.
and now they want only prestige unis ie exotic very
expensive overseas ones the creme de la creme.
well i got news for them they are livin in cloud cuckoo land
and also alienating about 3 million uk graduates as well
as excluding them from the top jobs.
Let me ask a few straight questions from my 100+ IQ.
Put aside all the waffle and labour rhetoric
awnser these:
just how many graduates is the UK producing each and every summer?
1 million plus?
Just how many of these graduates are working away at salaries of
£30,000 plus in suits in head offices and just how many are scrubbing
floors in McDonalds?
Just how many graduates have graduated since 1964 and how many
are in employment?
I calculate between 5-6 million.
Just how many have emigrated overseas to lands of opportunity
like Germany(unemployment 5 million NAzis seizing power)
JApan(about to crash)????????
How can 1 million new graduates get jobs calling for experience
without any?
How many people even believe there exist all these graduates since
we never hear from any of them eg a recent reunion saw only 12 out
of an estimated 200,000 attend.
like black helicopters and ufos perhaps they are all being abducted
to the centre of the earth by the ufos?
Just how mant graduates do we need running things?
i mean take your local county borough whatever and mentally
calculate how many super bright brains we need to
a)keep things running as they are
b)achieving a utopian future
c)let it all go down the pan.
Something very wierd is happening!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
All i see around me is stoopid people/
just remember JOseph Goebbels was a graduate!!!
nobody and nuthin ...from the underground.
"Not all Conservatives are stupid but most stupids are Conservative"
Peter Ceresole
In article <6i5bcv$kvr$1...@apple.news.easynet.net>,
chaos...@hotmail.com (big mouth strikes again) wrote:
>Let me ask a few straight questions from my 100+ IQ.
This post is supposed to emanate from a *normal* intelligence?
--
Peter
Garry J. Vass
In article <6i5bcv$kvr$1...@apple.news.easynet.net>, big mouth strikes
again <chaos...@hotmail.com> writes
>Let me ask a few straight questions from my 100+ IQ.
Divert all power to shields, Mr. Chekov! There's a 100+ IQ out there!
> i mean take your local county borough whatever and mentally
>calculate how many super bright brains we need to
Do we really have to "mentally calculate"?
>Something very wierd is happening!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Something "wierd" [sic] is an understatement, old chap.
>just remember JOseph Goebbels was a graduate!!!
Thanks for the reminder. Heidelberg, right?. But consarn it, so are
you! And gulldurn it, so am I!
Now you're just trying to bedazzle us bog-trotting bumpkins with that
100+ IQ of yours.
>"Not all Conservatives are stupid but most stupids are Conservative"
Misplaced your thorazine perhaps?
--
Garry J. Vass
P.D.Stamford
In article <6i5bcv$kvr$1...@apple.news.easynet.net>, big mouth strikes
again <chaos...@hotmail.com> writes
>in the standard it says "not even a first from
>Oxford"is enough nowadays to guarantee a job
>no siree
>When i graduated about 20 years ago you could
>well i got news for them they are livin in cloud cuckoo land
>How many people even believe there exist all these graduates since
>we never hear from any of them eg a recent reunion saw only 12 out
>of an estimated 200,000 attend.
>like black helicopters and ufos perhaps they are all being abducted
>to the centre of the earth by the ufos?
>just remember JOseph Goebbels was a graduate!!!
What the hell are you on?
Reading your hippy-type rambling diatribe, I find it hard to believe you
graduated 20 years ago. That makes you, what, 41 years old.
Extraordinary. Please reafirm my faith in the university system and tell
me you were sh*t faced when you wrote this.
--
P.D.Stamford
Mike Cunningham
I spy a troll
Mike
big mouth strikes again wrote in message
<6i5bcv$kvr$1...@apple.news.easynet.net>...
>Have you noticed how its going now
>in the standard it says "not even a first from
>Oxford"is enough nowadays to guarantee a job
>no siree they want you to have been to Erasmus
>in holland or the sorbonne or stanford.
>Well that lets me out.
>When i graduated about 20 years ago you could
>just about get a graduate job if you were from any uk
>university though some of the modern ones had
>bad names as "hippy".
>Then came the 81 recession and they started to say
>oh you just have a GOOD degree from a RED BRICK
>one or oxbridge.
>by 91 it was just oxbridge mainly .the new unis
>ie ex polys were defintly no no as were jut about
>all the rest,apparently they didnt cut the mustard.
>and now they want only prestige unis ie exotic very
>expensive overseas ones the creme de la creme.
>well i got news for them they are livin in cloud cuckoo land
>and also alienating about 3 million uk graduates as well
>as excluding them from the top jobs.
>Let me ask a few straight questions from my 100+ IQ.
>Put aside all the waffle and labour rhetoric
>awnser these:
>just how many graduates is the UK producing each and every summer?
>1 million plus?
>Just how many of these graduates are working away at salaries of
>£30,000 plus in suits in head offices and just how many are scrubbing
>floors in McDonalds?
>Just how many graduates have graduated since 1964 and how many
>are in employment?
>I calculate between 5-6 million.
>Just how many have emigrated overseas to lands of opportunity
>like Germany(unemployment 5 million NAzis seizing power)
>JApan(about to crash)????????
>How can 1 million new graduates get jobs calling for experience
>without any?
>How many people even believe there exist all these graduates since
>we never hear from any of them eg a recent reunion saw only 12 out
>of an estimated 200,000 attend.
>like black helicopters and ufos perhaps they are all being abducted
>to the centre of the earth by the ufos?
>Just how mant graduates do we need running things?
> i mean take your local county borough whatever and mentally
>calculate how many super bright brains we need to
>a)keep things running as they are
>b)achieving a utopian future
>c)let it all go down the pan.
>Something very wierd is happening!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>All i see around me is stoopid people/
>just remember JOseph Goebbels was a graduate!!!
>nobody and nuthin ...from the underground.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
ANNA Warman
"Mike Cunningham" <mike.cu...@ait.co.uk> put digits to keyboard
and typed:
>I spy a troll
Was it really necessary to quote the whole text again, Mike?
ANNA, thinking it was bad enough seeing it the first time...
Visit my inflight safety site at:
http://www.plsys.co.uk/~anna/inflight.htm
To reply by email, first remove .MY_BRA.
Peter Ceresole
In article <y2xW7TAH...@smith-wesson.demon.co.uk>,
"P.D.Stamford" <pa...@smith-wesson.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>Reading your hippy-type rambling diatribe
Eh? There was nothing wrong with the hippies. Don't insult them
gratuitously like that.
--
Peter
Peter Ceresole
In article <354700a...@news.demon.co.uk>,
an...@warman.de.MY_BRA.mon.co.uk (ANNA Warman) wrote:
>>I spy a troll
>
>Was it really necessary to quote the whole text again, Mike?
Not just him. The whole art of appropriate quoting- even of laying out a
posting so that it's readable- is going to hell. Myself, I blame the human
race.
But then how about this?
>X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4
A clueless poster, perhaps? They all seem to use OE or Mozilla 4.0. I
wonder why?
--
Peter
David Kerrell
big mouth strikes again wrote in message
<6i5bcv$kvr$1...@apple.news.easynet.net>...
>Have you noticed how its going now
>in the standard it says "not even a first from
>Oxford"is enough nowadays to guarantee a job
>no siree they want you to have been to Erasmus
>in holland or the sorbonne or stanford.
>Well that lets me out.
The only thing likely to guarantee job is a government jobs guarantee
scheme. Right now, if you live in the Thames Valley and have any kind of
work experience with references, you should be able to find a job because we
are enjoying close to full employment. Failing that, get yourself on a
re-training scheme.
--
Dave.
mailto:da...@kerrell.demon.co.uk
Sean Lewis
Thank you Peter! Speaking as a long-haired hippy type
How are you by the way?
---
Sean Lewis
(Jo Public Radio Productions)
Dan Evans
On Tue, 28 Apr 1998 19:46:03 GMT, chaos...@hotmail.com (big mouth
strikes again) wrote:
>Have you noticed how its going now
>in the standard it says "not even a first from
>Oxford"is enough nowadays to guarantee a job
What is the problem? Some people just seem to think they have the god
given right to a job. As long as enough commitment is put in to the
applications and inverviews, I'm sure that 90% of graduates would get
a job with no problems. Many seem to moan after they have been
rejected by just a few companies. What's their problem? I spent about
6 months working hard on applications, interviews etc, eventually to
get a job at about the 25th company I applied for. As it happens, I am
very happy there....
-- Dan Evans. d...@danevans.demon.co.ukk (remove final k to email me).
Peter Ceresole
In article <354853ad...@news.dialin.net>,
sean....@dialin.net (Sean Lewis) wrote:
>Thank you Peter! Speaking as a long-haired hippy type
>
>How are you by the way?
Excellent, just bodacious. Definitely a short haired hippy, these days.
--
Peter
David Hallam
Graduates excluded from work? I doubt it. What bothers me more is that
some lunatic with an incoherent argument and extremely bad typing can
blunder into a completely irrelevant Newsgroup and get himself 12 (now
13) replies.
Must be all those unemployed graduates sitting at their computers with
nothing better to do...
ANNA Warman
david....@clara.net (David Hallam) put digits to keyboard and
typed:
>Graduates excluded from work? I doubt it. What bothers me more is that
>some lunatic with an incoherent argument and extremely bad typing can
>blunder into a completely irrelevant Newsgroup and get himself 12 (now
>13) replies.
I count 35 follow-ups. Mind you, half of them are just discussion
generated from the first post, which is the beauty of usenet. :)
>Must be all those unemployed graduates sitting at their computers with
>nothing better to do...
I'm not a graduate. Not me guv. <sniff>
ANNA, who nearly got to be a graduate of the OU though.... :)
David Hallam
>david....@clara.net (David Hallam) put digits to keyboard and
>typed:
>
>>Graduates excluded from work? I doubt it. What bothers me more is that
>>some lunatic with an incoherent argument and extremely bad typing can
>>blunder into a completely irrelevant Newsgroup and get himself 12 (now
>>13) replies.
>
>I count 35 follow-ups. Mind you, half of them are just discussion
>generated from the first post, which is the beauty of usenet. :)
>
>>Must be all those unemployed graduates sitting at their computers with
>>nothing better to do...
>
>I'm not a graduate. Not me guv. <sniff>
>
>
You're not a graduate? ....Wow!
Can anybody tell me if there's an irony Newsgroup around here? (as in,
a group for people who understand it) ;-)
ANNA Warman
>an...@warman.de.MY_BRA.mon.co.uk (ANNA Warman) wrote:
>
>>I'm not a graduate. Not me guv. <sniff>
>>
>You're not a graduate? ....Wow!
I know. It's incredible, isn't it? You'd never be able to tell,
would you?
>Can anybody tell me if there's an irony Newsgroup around here? (as in,
>a group for people who understand it) ;-)
Nope, not that I know of. I have an irony board you can borrow
though...
ANNA, thinking David, eggs, teaching, grannies and sucking... :)
P.D.Stamford
In article <354cd7bb...@news.clara.net>, David Hallam
<david....@clara.net> writes
>Graduates excluded from work? I doubt it. What bothers me more is that
>some lunatic with an incoherent argument and extremely bad typing can
>blunder into a completely irrelevant Newsgroup and get himself 12 (now
>13) replies.
>
>nothing better to do...
>
--
P.D.Stamford
Steve Crook
P.D.Stamford wrote:
> >
>
> --
> P.D.Stamford
Are they counted as Graduates ? :)
Steve
ANNA Warman
>Can anybody tell me if there's an irony Newsgroup around here? (as in,
>a group for people who understand it) ;-)
An update: I just downloadeded a newgroup to my list called
alt.irony. :)
ANNA, thinking of synchroncity...
http://www.plsys.co.uk/~anna
William van Zwanenberg
[snip]
> david....@clara.net (David Hallam) put digits to keyboard and
> typed:
>
> >Can anybody tell me if there's an irony Newsgroup around here? (as in,
> >a group for people who understand it) ;-)
>
> An update: I just downloadeded a newgroup to my list called
> alt.irony. :)
Let's just hope our American friends don't see fit to contribute to it ... :)
--
Will van Zwanenberg Email: wi...@willz.demon.co.uk
WWW: http://www.willz.demon.co.uk/
"If we don't succeed, then we run the risk of failure ..." - Vice President Dan Quayle 1989, Texas Republican Convention.
ANNA Warman
wi...@willz.demon.co.uk (William van Zwanenberg) put digits to keyboard
and typed:
>[snip]
>
>> david....@clara.net (David Hallam) put digits to keyboard and
>> typed:
>>
>> >Can anybody tell me if there's an irony Newsgroup around here? (as in,
>> >a group for people who understand it) ;-)
>>
>> An update: I just downloadeded a newgroup to my list called
^^
Whoops, one too many (-ed's, not drinks...)
>> alt.irony. :)
>
>Let's just hope our American friends don't see fit to contribute to it ... :)
Actually, I think it would be fun if they did.
ANNA, whose American friends are probably atypical, because they even
understand Python humour...
phx...@pop.phnx.uswest.net
William van Zwanenberg wrote:
[snip]
> david....@clara.net (David Hallam) put digits to keyboard and
> typed:
>
> >Can anybody tell me if there's an irony Newsgroup around here? (as in,
> >a group for people who understand it) ;-)
>
> An update: I just downloadeded a newgroup to my list called
> alt.irony. :)
Let's just hope our American friends don't see fit to contribute to it ... :)
--
Will van Zwanenberg Email: wi...@willz.demon.co.uk
WWW: http://www.willz.demon.co.uk/"If we don't succeed, then we run the risk of failure ..." - Vice President Dan Quayle 1989, Texas Republican Convention.
I suspect you have no American friends. Perhaps that explains your bigotry...
Robin Parkinson
In article <355e981...@news.demon.co.uk>,
an...@warman.de.MY_BRA.mon.co.uk says...
> david....@clara.net (David Hallam) put digits to keyboard and
> typed:
>
> >Can anybody tell me if there's an irony Newsgroup around here? (as in,
> >a group for people who understand it) ;-)
>
> An update: I just downloadeded a newgroup to my list called
> alt.irony. :)
...in which 90% of the posts appear to be from people who have at best a
shaky idea of what irony is. Don't get your hopes up. Most of the posts
have been about that blooming Alanis Morisette song.
Which is rather ironic really.
Hmm.
Is everybody being too clever for me?
- Robin (who edits one of the 'Ring of Irony' sites mentioned in the
alt.irony FAQ. It's http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/trout if you've got a
few minutes spare...)
--
Disclaimer: As far as I know I'm not an ICL official spokesman on anything.
--
Robin Parkinson rpark...@iclretail.icl.com
ICL Retail Systems robin_parkinson@iclretail
Bracknell, England +44 118 9383629
"I am playing all the right notes - but not necessarily in the right order"
- Eric Morecambe
Peter Ceresole
In article <355C8E7B...@pop.phnx.uswest.net>,
phx...@pop.phnx.uswest.net wrote:
> I suspect you have no American friends. Perhaps that explains your bigotry...
>
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>
The absence of irony is merely a handicap. Proving it in HTML on Usenet is
a much greater crime. These are text groups. Please adjust your software.
--
Peter
Anthony W. Youngman
In article <355bfece...@news.demon.co.uk>, ANNA Warman <anna@warman
.de.MY_BRA.mon.co.uk> writes
>wi...@willz.demon.co.uk (William van Zwanenberg) put digits to keyboard
>and typed:
>
>>[snip]
>>
>>> david....@clara.net (David Hallam) put digits to keyboard and
>>> typed:
>>>
>>> >Can anybody tell me if there's an irony Newsgroup around here? (as in,
>>> >a group for people who understand it) ;-)
>>>
>>> An update: I just downloadeded a newgroup to my list called
>Whoops, one too many (-ed's, not drinks...)
>
>>
>>Let's just hope our American friends don't see fit to contribute to it ... :)
>
>
>
>ANNA, whose American friends are probably atypical, because they even
>understand Python humour...
>http://www.plsys.co.uk/~anna
>To reply by email, first remove .MY_BRA.
If you like the Discworld, you might try afp, where the protagonists
like talking irony and, god help us, even SARCASM! And yes, they have
that sort of wonderful Merkins, too.
--
Anthony W. Youngman
w...@thewolery.demon.co.uk
Ask Christopher Robin where to find it.
William van Zwanenberg
In article <B1830176...@cara.demon.co.uk>, pe...@cara.demon.co.uk
(Peter Ceresole) wrote:
> In article <355C8E7B...@pop.phnx.uswest.net>,
> phx...@pop.phnx.uswest.net wrote:
>
> > I suspect you have no American friends. Perhaps that explains your
bigotry...
I hasten to add that this is not bigotry but merely an observation that
seems to be shared with a great many other British people in that irony as
form of humour seems to be lost on most Americans (emphasis on the word
"most" so as to not to imply that this applies to *all* Americans).
phx...@pop.phnx.uswest.net
William van Zwanenberg wrote:
If you say so. I've lived here all my life but know only a relatively few. Ironic, innit?
SDoug99606
>William van Zwanenberg wrote:
>
>> [snip]
>>
>> > david....@clara.net (David Hallam) put digits to keyboard and
>> > typed:
>> >
>> > >Can anybody tell me if there's an irony Newsgroup around here? (as in,
>> > >a group for people who understand it) ;-)
>> >
>> > An update: I just downloadeded a newgroup to my list called
>> > alt.irony. :)
>>
>> Let's just hope our American friends don't see fit to contribute to it ...
>:)
>> --
>> Will van Zwanenberg Email: wi...@willz.demon.co.uk
>> WWW: http://www.willz.demon.co.uk/
>>
>> "If we don't succeed, then we run the risk of failure ..." - Vice President
>Dan Quayle 1989, Texas Republican Convention.
>
> I suspect you have no American friends. Perhaps that explains your
>bigotry...
You might also want to avoid alt.humor
__
Scott
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