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Paul Hyett

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Feb 24, 2013, 2:46:46 PM2/24/13
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Singles
-------
One Direction take over at #1, with the first 6 figure total of 2013.


New Entries/New Peaks
---------------------
Top 5 : Justin Timberlake (Mirrors) #4
Top 10 :
Top 20 : Ellie Goulding #13, Pink (JGMAR) #16
Top 30 : Olly Murs (AOT) #23
Top 40 : Zedd #34, Script (IYCSMN) #36, Tyler James (WAY) #38

Re-entries T40 : Ben Howard (OL) #9, Mumford & S #12, Robbie (Candy) #39

New Entries outside the top 40 (plus new peaks) : Lil Wayne #44, Example
#49, 1975 #54, Muse (Supr) #58, Joe Cocker #64, Ke$ha (C'Mon) #70,

Re-entries T75 : Emeli Sande (NTM) #45, Birdy (PHTP) #55, M&S (LLM) #63,
Survivor #65, Emeli Sande (RAAB3) #68, OD (LWWY) #74, Ben Howard (KYHU)
#75


Albums
------
Emeli Sande returns to #1 for a 9th (non-consecutive) week.

New Entries/New Peaks
---------------------
Top 5 : Nick Cave #3, Ben Howard #4
Top 10 :
Top 20 : Alt-J #13, Joe Cocker #17

New entries/new peaks outside the top 20 : Louis Lester Band #53,

Re-entries : Ludovico Einaudi #41, XX (Co-Ex) #50, Killers (BB) #57,
Florence (C) #61, Beyonce (4) #62, Justin Bieber #65, Train #69,
Vaccines #71, Pibk (GHSF) #73, Girls Aloud #74



Next Week
---------
Singles
-------
Justin Timberlake could well be #1.

Top 5 : Bastille
Top 10 : Laura Mvula
Top 20 : Paramore
Top 30 : Wiley
Top 40 : Dido, Example

There may be more unexpected OA/OS releases, though.

Albums
------
I would expect Emeli Sande to remain to #1 on the back of the Brit
Awards.


Top 5 :
Top 10 : Josh Groban
Top 20 : Cribs, Johnny Marr

Others : Bob Dylan, Ed Harcourt, Glee Cast, Michael Ball
--
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham (change 'invalid83261' to 'blueyonder' to email me)

Robbie

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Feb 24, 2013, 4:52:52 PM2/24/13
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On 24/02/2013 19:46, Paul Hyett wrote:

> Next Week
> ---------
> Singles
> -------
> Justin Timberlake could well be #1.
>
> Top 5 : Bastille
> Top 10 : Laura Mvula
> Top 20 : Paramore
> Top 30 : Wiley
> Top 40 : Dido, Example
>
> There may be more unexpected OA/OS releases, though.

David Bowie is apparently releasing another track from his album on Tuesday.

--
Robbie

Chris Brown

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"Paul Hyett" <vidc...@invalid83261.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Singles
> -------
> One Direction take over at #1, with the first 6 figure total of 2013.

Nothing particularly surprising about this, except for the unusually early
release of a Comic Relief single. Presumably this was mostly to take
advantage of winning their made-up Brit award but it does also raise the
possibility of another "surprise" tie-in.
The song is of course primarily a cover of the 1979 Blondie track which was
a Top 30 hit in the US and is enjoying its first week in the UK Top 100 this
week. It also contains elements from 'Teenage Kicks' by the Undertones,
which has been released as a single in the UK several times but never got
higher than 31.

> New Entries/New Peaks
> ---------------------
> Top 5 : Justin Timberlake (Mirrors) #4

He had even less right than 1D to appear at the Brits, as they didn't even
bother to make up an award for him (and he wasn't eligible for anything
else). But he showed up anyway and did what was by most accounts a decent
performance of this half-baked song. It was considerably shorter than the
commercially available version, which is a good start.

> Top 20 : Ellie Goulding #13,

I presume this is picking up actual airplay now.

>Pink (JGMAR) #16

Usual dull whiny Pink song, which people seem to think is something special
for no apparent reason.

> Top 30 : Olly Murs (AOT) #23

A second single from his album seems to have been relatively late in
arriving, presumably due to the continued success of 'Troublemaker', but
here it is now. It's another testament to the effect that a video launch can
have if you're in with the video channels.

> Top 40 : Zedd #34,

Still featuring Zoey Deschanel/Katy Perry lookalike Foxes. Still not an
intereesting song.

>Script (IYCSMN) #36,

If you've been missing their early rapping-badly-in-American-accents style,
you'll love this.

> Tyler James (WAY) #38

As it turned out he did sneak in despite the Brits effect. But the record
company will probably still "Worry about him" - geddit!!???

> Re-entries T40 : Ben Howard (OL) #9,

A new peak for the mumbliest song in the chart.

> Mumford & S #12,

Not a new peak but a resumption of its former one, still their highest
placing to date on the singles chart.

>Robbie (Candy) #39

Like the other two, a Brits performer although his performance got at best a
mixed response.

> New Entries outside the top 40 (plus new peaks) : Lil Wayne #44,

Potentially another of his low-peaking gradual sellers.

> Example #49,

Wouldn't be far off Top 40 without the Brits effect. Will presumably outsell
his previous single if it hasn't already.

> 1975 #54,

I heard this song for the second time this week. I liked it even less than I
had the first time.

>Muse (Supr) #58,

Also played at the Brits, even though they seem to be thinking about the
next single already.

>Joe Cocker #64,

Not featured at this year's Brits, though I'm sure he has been nominated for
one at some point in the last 36 years.
Anyway, this is his new single and is doing surprisingly well under the
circumstances, even allowing that it's been one of Radio 2's most-played
tracks in recent weeks. It has more than a hint of Springsteen about it, or
to be more accurate of a Springsteen who needed to clear his throat.

>Ke$ha (C'Mon) #70,

Probably a bigger seller than the chart positions make it look.

> Re-entries T75 : Emeli Sande (NTM) #45,

Her biggest solo hit returns.

> Birdy (PHTP) #55,

Somebody remembered she'd done a song other than 'Skinny Love'!

>M&S (LLM) #63,

Their second biggest hit.

> Survivor #65,

Not Brit winners, unless they've introduced an award for most amusing
unintentional resemblance to Frank Spencer in a pop video.

> Emeli Sande (RAAB3) #68,

On her new live album (which appears in the DVD/video chart) she does this
song as a duet with Professor Green. Dunno why she thought of that.

>OD (LWWY) #74,

Not quite as much of a flop as it looked at first.

>Ben Howard (KYHU) #75

Once place shy of its peak.

> Albums
> ------
> Emeli Sande returns to #1 for a 9th (non-consecutive) week.

This Thursday I fulfilled two of my duties as a British citizen: I voted and
I downloaded this album. I shall listen to it while I write the rest of this
commentary.

> New Entries/New Peaks
> ---------------------
> Top 5 : Nick Cave #3,

Despite the relatively tough weak, the highest placing he's managed in his
entire career. It's the first Bad Seeds album without long-term collaborator
Mick Harvey, who was also in his previous bands Boys Next Door and The
Birthday Party, but not in Grinderman.
Oh, and it has a naked picture of his wife on the cover. Isn't that more the
sort of thing you'd expect from Whitesnake?

> Ben Howard #4

An album I seem to have written about dozens of times before and I never
really had anything much to say about it in the first place.

> Top 20 : Alt-J #13,

Didn't win any Brit Awards, fortunately.

>Joe Cocker #17

If you're Joe Cocker and you need somebody to play guitar on your 23rd
studio album, who you gonna call? Ray Parker Jr, and some other people.
This album features most of the same team as his 2010 album Hard Knocks but
has charted much higher, possibly due to the popularity of the title track.
The more expensive deluxe album adds two more songs and a live DVD with
songs from the album.

> New entries/new peaks outside the top 20 : Louis Lester Band #53,

The fictional band from Stephen Poliakoff's probably quite boring drama
series Dancing On The Edge. This soundtrack has been rattling around the
extended chart for a couple of weeks but only now cracks the Top 75,
presumably due to people hearing more of the songs as the series progresses.

> Re-entries : Ludovico Einaudi #41,

Surprise re-entry of the week.

> XX (Co-Ex) #50,

Among the lower-profile Brits nominees.

>Killers (BB) #57,

As were they (this year at least). TBH, I'd already forgotten this album
existed.

> Florence (C) #61,

In and out every fortnight.

>Beyonce (4) #62,

A couple of weeks after the logical time for it to re-enter.

>Justin Bieber #65,

He's on tour in the UK at the moment.

> Train #69,

Presumably helped a bit by the airplay of their new single. But not a lot
because it's really shite.

> Vaccines #71,

Were they nominated for Band That Makes Jake Bugg Seem Appealing?

>Pibk (GHSF) #73,

Probably just a default one.

> Girls Aloud #74

Maybe this is on special offer to try and rescue it.

> Next Week
> ---------
> Singles
> -------
> Justin Timberlake could well be #1.

Possible but I can't quite see it somehow. Of course he does have a lot more
2s than 1s, maybe that's why. I can imagine Bauuer, Macklemore & RL or both
overtaking him early in the week.

> Top 5 : Bastille

Seems likely - certainly what their label will be hoping for after all the
hype.

> Top 10 : Laura Mvula

Dunno whether it can keep the momentum to this extent but we'll have to wait
and see.

> Top 20 : Paramore

Seems about their level.

> Top 30 : Wiley

Would be a major comedown after his last two singles went Top 3. Any reason
for that prediction?

> Top 40 : Dido,

She didn't manage it with the last album. I'm not sure she's even trying.

> Example

Yeah, I think he'll sneak in the lower end.

> There may be more unexpected OA/OS releases, though.

Possible.
There is an expected Bowie single on Tuesday, but who knows how it will
sell?

> Albums
> ------
> I would expect Emeli Sande to remain to #1 on the back of the Brit Awards.

Are those still going to be decisive?

> Top 5 :
> Top 10 : Josh Groban

It's nearly Mother's Day so I think he might go T5.

> Top 20 : Cribs, Johnny Marr

Nice juxtaposition, but if you haven't heard the Cribs album has been
postponed a month.

> Others : Bob Dylan,

Surely we'd have heard about it if he was releasing a new album?

>Ed Harcourt,

This does exist but I'd doubt whether he's big enough these days.

> Glee Cast,

This does exist but I'd doubt whether they're big enough these days.

>Michael Ball

I see the calendar and think T20.


Also:

Atoms For Peace are Thom Yorke's new band and will almost inevitably go T10.
Palma Violets are sort of the new Libertines. Steven Wilson is a veteran of
various prog acts who usually spend one week in the Top 30. Petula Clark's
had more publicity than usual this time, she could sneak T75. Caitlin Rose
isn't particularly well-known but she's doing well enough on Amazon to be
worth a mention.

Chris
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Paul Hyett

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On Sun, 24 Feb 2013 at 23:07:01, Chris Brown
<extrem...@yahoospam.com> wrote in uk.music.charts :

>> Singles
>> -------
>> One Direction take over at #1, with the first 6 figure total of 2013.
>
>Nothing particularly surprising about this

It's certainly as bad as most other CR singles... :P

>Presumably this was mostly to take advantage of winning their made-up
>Brit award but it does also raise the possibility of another "surprise"
>tie-in.

Yes?

>
>> New Entries/New Peaks
>> ---------------------
>> Top 5 : Justin Timberlake (Mirrors) #4
>
>He had even less right than 1D to appear at the Brits, as they didn't
>even bother to make up an award for him (and he wasn't eligible for
>anything else).

Best International Male, perhaps?
>
>>Script (IYCSMN) #36,
>
>If you've been missing their early rapping-badly-in-American-accents
>style, you'll love this.

I hadn't. :p
>
>> Re-entries T40 : Ben Howard (OL) #9,
>
>A new peak for the mumbliest song in the chart.

Is that a new category? :)
>
>> New Entries outside the top 40 (plus new peaks) : Lil Wayne #44,
>
>Potentially another of his low-peaking gradual sellers.
>
I assume that's a polite way of saying 'too crap to make the T40'? :p
>
>>Ke$ha (C'Mon) #70,
>
>Probably a bigger seller than the chart positions make it look.

Why?
>
>> Re-entries T75 :
>
>> Birdy (PHTP) #55,
>
>Somebody remembered she'd done a song other than 'Skinny Love'!

It's about time she released another album.
>
>>M&S (LLM) #63,
>
>Their second biggest hit.
>
>> Survivor #65,
>
>Not Brit winners, unless they've introduced an award for most amusing
>unintentional resemblance to Frank Spencer in a pop video.

Not that old joke again!
>
>> Emeli Sande (RAAB3) #68,
>
>On her new live album (which appears in the DVD/video chart)

I'd wondered what happened to it.
>
>>Ben Howard (KYHU) #75
>
>Once place shy of its peak.
>
Correct.


>> Albums
>> ------
>> Emeli Sande returns to #1 for a 9th (non-consecutive) week.
>
>This Thursday I fulfilled two of my duties as a British citizen: I
>voted

In what election?

> and I downloaded this album.
>
>> New Entries/New Peaks
>> ---------------------
>> Top 5 : Nick Cave #3,
>
>Despite the relatively tough weak, the highest placing he's managed in
>his entire career. It's the first Bad Seeds album without long-term
>collaborator Mick Harvey, who was also in his previous bands Boys Next
>Door and The Birthday Party, but not in Grinderman.
>Oh, and it has a naked picture of his wife on the cover.

Presumably carefully concealed, a la Bat For Lashes, though?
>
>>Joe Cocker #17
>
>If you're Joe Cocker and you need somebody to play guitar on your 23rd
>studio album, who you gonna call? Ray Parker Jr,

Groan.
>
>> New entries/new peaks outside the top 20 :
>
>> Re-entries : Ludovico Einaudi #41,
>
>Surprise re-entry of the week.

Or the year?
>
>> Vaccines #71,
>
>Were they nominated for Band That Makes Jake Bugg Seem Appealing?

Grin.
>
>> Girls Aloud #74
>
>Maybe this is on special offer to try and rescue it.

No more such special offers around here soon, at least for physical
albums - our HMV is closing down after all. :(
>
>> Next Week
>> ---------
>> Singles
>> -------
>> Justin Timberlake could well be #1.
>
>Possible but I can't quite see it somehow. Of course he does have a lot
>more 2s than 1s, maybe that's why. I can imagine Bauuer, Macklemore &
>RL or both overtaking him early in the week.

Bit neither of those seem to be making forward progress...
>
>> Top 10 : Laura Mvula
>
>Dunno whether it can keep the momentum to this extent but we'll have to
>wait and see.

It does seem to have stalled overnight.
>
>> Top 30 : Wiley
>
>Would be a major comedown after his last two singles went Top 3. Any
>reason for that prediction?

Does 'my having heard the song' count? :p
>
>> Top 40 : Dido,
>
>She didn't manage it with the last album. I'm not sure she's even trying.

I'm being an optimist.
>
>> Example
>
>Yeah, I think he'll sneak in the lower end.

Ouch! :p
>
>> There may be more unexpected OA/OS releases, though.
>
>Possible.
>There is an expected Bowie single on Tuesday, but who knows how it will
>sell?

Probably through people visiting iTunes & clicking on the 'Buy' button?
:p
>
>> Albums
>> ------
>> I would expect Emeli Sande to remain to #1 on the back of the Brit Awards.
>
>Are those still going to be decisive?

Well, nothing new looks likely to threaten.
>
>> Top 20 : Cribs, Johnny Marr
>
>Nice juxtaposition, but if you haven't heard the Cribs album has been
>postponed a month.

If I haven't heard that, then what?

Chris Brown

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"Paul Hyett" <vidc...@invalid83261.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 24 Feb 2013 at 23:07:01, Chris Brown <extrem...@yahoospam.com>
> wrote in uk.music.charts :
>
>>> Singles
>>> -------
>>> One Direction take over at #1, with the first 6 figure total of 2013.
>>
>>Nothing particularly surprising about this
>
> It's certainly as bad as most other CR singles... :P

Yes, but no worse.

>>Presumably this was mostly to take advantage of winning their made-up Brit
>>award but it does also raise the possibility of another "surprise" tie-in.
>
> Yes?

I doubt they'd want to do it, although I suppose Rick Wakeman would be up
for it.

>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>> ---------------------
>>> Top 5 : Justin Timberlake (Mirrors) #4
>>
>>He had even less right than 1D to appear at the Brits, as they didn't even
>>bother to make up an award for him (and he wasn't eligible for anything
>>else).
>
> Best International Male, perhaps?

No, he didn't release anything last year.

>>>Script (IYCSMN) #36,
>>
>>If you've been missing their early rapping-badly-in-American-accents
>>style, you'll love this.
>
> I hadn't. :p

Me neither. But neither am I now missing their usual direction.

>>> Re-entries T40 : Ben Howard (OL) #9,
>>
>>A new peak for the mumbliest song in the chart.
>
> Is that a new category? :)

hmmmmmm.

>>> New Entries outside the top 40 (plus new peaks) : Lil Wayne #44,
>>
>>Potentially another of his low-peaking gradual sellers.
>>
> I assume that's a polite way of saying 'too crap to make the T40'? :p

I don't think the ones that do make the T40 are any less crap.

>>>Ke$ha (C'Mon) #70,
>>
>>Probably a bigger seller than the chart positions make it look.
>
> Why?

Because it's been selling small amounts for a long time so it's a bigger
seller than one week in the T75 might imply.

>>> Re-entries T75 :
>>
>>> Birdy (PHTP) #55,
>>
>>Somebody remembered she'd done a song other than 'Skinny Love'!
>
> It's about time she released another album.

But if it's more covers, won't it be much worse?

>>> Survivor #65,
>>
>>Not Brit winners, unless they've introduced an award for most amusing
>>unintentional resemblance to Frank Spencer in a pop video.
>
> Not that old joke again!

Who, me or Frank Spencer?

>>> Emeli Sande (RAAB3) #68,
>>
>>On her new live album (which appears in the DVD/video chart)
>
> I'd wondered what happened to it.

It was pretty clear once it didn't show up in the first mids, I suppose.

>>> Albums
>>> ------
>>> Emeli Sande returns to #1 for a 9th (non-consecutive) week.
>>
>>This Thursday I fulfilled two of my duties as a British citizen: I voted
>
> In what election?

There was a council by-election because the previous councillor resigned.

>> and I downloaded this album.
>>
>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>> ---------------------
>>> Top 5 : Nick Cave #3,
>>
>>Despite the relatively tough weak, the highest placing he's managed in his
>>entire career. It's the first Bad Seeds album without long-term
>>collaborator Mick Harvey, who was also in his previous bands Boys Next
>>Door and The Birthday Party, but not in Grinderman.
>>Oh, and it has a naked picture of his wife on the cover.
>
> Presumably carefully concealed, a la Bat For Lashes, though?

See for yourself: (arguably NSFW)
http://dotsanddashes.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Push-the-Sky-Away.jpg

At least I resisted the obvious joke.

>>> New entries/new peaks outside the top 20 :
>>
>>> Re-entries : Ludovico Einaudi #41,
>>
>>Surprise re-entry of the week.
>
> Or the year?

I doubt it. This is just an especially odd week for it to re-enter.

>>> Girls Aloud #74
>>
>>Maybe this is on special offer to try and rescue it.
>
> No more such special offers around here soon, at least for physical
> albums - our HMV is closing down after all. :(

I was thinking of supermarket offers though - they tend to have more
dramatic effects.

>>> Next Week
>>> ---------
>>> Singles
>>> -------
>>> Justin Timberlake could well be #1.
>>
>>Possible but I can't quite see it somehow. Of course he does have a lot
>>more 2s than 1s, maybe that's why. I can imagine Bauuer, Macklemore & RL
>>or both overtaking him early in the week.
>
> Bit neither of those seem to be making forward progress...

They don't have to though, if they just keep pace an JT stumbles.

>>> Top 10 : Laura Mvula
>>
>>Dunno whether it can keep the momentum to this extent but we'll have to
>>wait and see.
>
> It does seem to have stalled overnight.

Presumably reaching the limit of its frontloading.

>>> Top 30 : Wiley
>>
>>Would be a major comedown after his last two singles went Top 3. Any
>>reason for that prediction?
>
> Does 'my having heard the song' count? :p

No.

>>> Top 40 : Dido,
>>
>>She didn't manage it with the last album. I'm not sure she's even trying.
>
> I'm being an optimist.

About what? It's not like getting a single to Number 39 will make any
difference.

>>> Example
>>
>>Yeah, I think he'll sneak in the lower end.
>
> Ouch! :p

Bit like that Keith Lemon trailer that was banned by Ofcom.

>>> There may be more unexpected OA/OS releases, though.
>>
>>Possible.
>>There is an expected Bowie single on Tuesday, but who knows how it will
>>sell?
>
> Probably through people visiting iTunes & clicking on the 'Buy' button? :p

Unless they use other download sites. Or it turns out to be a free download.

>>> Albums
>>> ------
>>> I would expect Emeli Sande to remain to #1 on the back of the Brit
>>> Awards.
>>
>>Are those still going to be decisive?
>
> Well, nothing new looks likely to threaten.

Yeah, that's more the point IMO.

>>> Top 20 : Cribs, Johnny Marr
>>
>>Nice juxtaposition, but if you haven't heard the Cribs album has been
>>postponed a month.
>
> If I haven't heard that, then what?

Then you don't seem to be alone, it's on at least one download site today.

Chris

Paul Hyett

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On Mon, 25 Feb 2013 at 21:45:47, Chris Brown
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>>
>>>> Singles
>>>> -------
>
>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>> ---------------------
>>>> Top 5 : Justin Timberlake (Mirrors) #4
>>>
>>>He had even less right than 1D to appear at the Brits, as they didn't
>>>even bother to make up an award for him (and he wasn't eligible for
>>>anything else).
>>
>> Best International Male, perhaps?
>
>No, he didn't release anything last year.

My bad - it just *feels* like Suit & Tie has been around for a year...
:p
>

>>>> New Entries outside the top 40 (plus new peaks) : Lil Wayne #44,
>>>
>>>Potentially another of his low-peaking gradual sellers.
>>>
>> I assume that's a polite way of saying 'too crap to make the T40'? :p
>
>I don't think the ones that do make the T40 are any less crap.

Good point.

>
>>>> Re-entries T75 :
>>>
>>>> Birdy (PHTP) #55,
>>>
>>>Somebody remembered she'd done a song other than 'Skinny Love'!
>>
>> It's about time she released another album.
>
>But if it's more covers, won't it be much worse?

Depends on which songs...

>
>>>> Albums
>>>> ------
>>>> Emeli Sande returns to #1 for a 9th (non-consecutive) week.
>>>
>>>This Thursday I fulfilled two of my duties as a British citizen: I voted
>>
>> In what election?
>
>There was a council by-election because the previous councillor resigned.

For a particularly juicy reason, perhaps? :p

>>>
>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>> ---------------------
>>>> Top 5 : Nick Cave #3,
>>>
>>>Despite the relatively tough weak, the highest placing he's managed
>>>in his entire career. It's the first Bad Seeds album without
>>>long-term collaborator Mick Harvey, who was also in his previous
>>>bands Boys Next Door and The Birthday Party, but not in Grinderman.
>>>Oh, and it has a naked picture of his wife on the cover.
>>
>> Presumably carefully concealed, a la Bat For Lashes, though?
>
>See for yourself: (arguably NSFW)
>http://dotsanddashes.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Push-the-Sky-Away.jpg

Ahem - I can see where shops would have to place the price label. ;)

>>
>> No more such special offers around here soon, at least for physical
>>albums - our HMV is closing down after all. :(
>
>I was thinking of supermarket offers though - they tend to have more
>dramatic effects.

What about on-line ones?
>
>>>> Next Week
>>>> ---------
>>>> Albums
>>>> ------
>>>> I would expect Emeli Sande to remain to #1 on the back of the Brit
>>>>Awards.
>>>
>>>Are those still going to be decisive?
>>
>> Well, nothing new looks likely to threaten.
>
>Yeah, that's more the point IMO.

Indeed.

Chris Brown

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> On Mon, 25 Feb 2013 at 21:45:47, Chris Brown <extrem...@yahoospam.com>
> wrote in uk.music.charts :
>>>
>>>>> Singles
>>>>> -------
>>
>>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>>> ---------------------
>>>>> Top 5 : Justin Timberlake (Mirrors) #4
>>>>
>>>>He had even less right than 1D to appear at the Brits, as they didn't
>>>>even bother to make up an award for him (and he wasn't eligible for
>>>>anything else).
>>>
>>> Best International Male, perhaps?
>>
>>No, he didn't release anything last year.
>
> My bad - it just *feels* like Suit & Tie has been around for a year... :p

Believe it or not, his last solo single before then was in 2007.

>>>>> Re-entries T75 :
>>>>
>>>>> Birdy (PHTP) #55,
>>>>
>>>>Somebody remembered she'd done a song other than 'Skinny Love'!
>>>
>>> It's about time she released another album.
>>
>>But if it's more covers, won't it be much worse?
>
> Depends on which songs...

Presumably a lesser choice of songs than the first one, which is the problem
with covers.

>>>>> Albums
>>>>> ------
>>>>> Emeli Sande returns to #1 for a 9th (non-consecutive) week.
>>>>
>>>>This Thursday I fulfilled two of my duties as a British citizen: I voted
>>>
>>> In what election?
>>
>>There was a council by-election because the previous councillor resigned.
>
> For a particularly juicy reason, perhaps? :p

Yes, he was cautioned for possession of indecent images.

Incidentally, another councillor elsewhere in the borough was actually
convicted of stealing money from a disabled man. He hasn't resigned though.

>>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>>> ---------------------
>>>>> Top 5 : Nick Cave #3,
>>>>
>>>>Despite the relatively tough weak, the highest placing he's managed in
>>>>his entire career. It's the first Bad Seeds album without long-term
>>>>collaborator Mick Harvey, who was also in his previous bands Boys Next
>>>>Door and The Birthday Party, but not in Grinderman.
>>>>Oh, and it has a naked picture of his wife on the cover.
>>>
>>> Presumably carefully concealed, a la Bat For Lashes, though?
>>
>>See for yourself: (arguably NSFW)
>>http://dotsanddashes.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Push-the-Sky-Away.jpg
>
> Ahem - I can see where shops would have to place the price label. ;)

Over his ugly mug?
I suppose he knows that shops that would baulk at that cover wouldn't be
selling his music anyway.

>>> No more such special offers around here soon, at least for physical
>>> albums - our HMV is closing down after all. :(
>>
>>I was thinking of supermarket offers though - they tend to have more
>>dramatic effects.
>
> What about on-line ones?

I was particularly thinking that supermarket sales had dramatic week-on-week
effects because they attract people unawares - and they restock product that
they wouldn't otherwise have.

Chris

Paul Hyett

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On Tue, 26 Feb 2013 at 18:28:42, Chris Brown
<extrem...@yahoospam.com> wrote in uk.music.charts :
>>>>
>>>>>> Singles
>>>>>> -------
>>>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>>>> ---------------------
>
>>>>>> Re-entries T75 :
>>>>>
>>>>>> Birdy (PHTP) #55,
>>>>>
>>>>>Somebody remembered she'd done a song other than 'Skinny Love'!
>>>>
>>>> It's about time she released another album.
>>>
>>>But if it's more covers, won't it be much worse?
>>
>> Depends on which songs...
>
>Presumably a lesser choice of songs than the first one, which is the
>problem with covers.

Maybe there'll be some of her own - she's supposed to be a songwriter
too.
>
>>>>>> Albums
>>>>>> ------
>>>>>This Thursday I fulfilled two of my duties as a British citizen: I voted
>>>>
>>>> In what election?
>>>
>>>There was a council by-election because the previous councillor resigned.
>>
>> For a particularly juicy reason, perhaps? :p
>
>Yes, he was cautioned for possession of indecent images.

That's a discreet way of saying 'child porn', isn't it... :p
>
>Incidentally, another councillor elsewhere in the borough was actually
>convicted of stealing money from a disabled man. He hasn't resigned
>though.

Doubt he'd risk standing for re-election next time, though!
>
>>>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>>>> ---------------------
>>>>>> Top 5 : Nick Cave #3,

>>>>>Oh, and it has a naked picture of his wife on the cover.
>>>>
>>>> Presumably carefully concealed, a la Bat For Lashes, though?
>>>
>>>See for yourself: (arguably NSFW)
>>>http://dotsanddashes.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Push-the-Sky-Away.jpg
>>
>> Ahem - I can see where shops would have to place the price label. ;)
>
>Over his ugly mug?
>I suppose he knows that shops that would baulk at that cover wouldn't
>be selling his music anyway.

I doubt music shops can afford to be that selective nowadays...

Chris Brown

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"Paul Hyett" <vidc...@invalid83261.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 26 Feb 2013 at 18:28:42, Chris Brown <extrem...@yahoospam.com>
> wrote in uk.music.charts :
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Singles
>>>>>>> -------
>>>>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>>>>> ---------------------
>>
>>>>>>> Re-entries T75 :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Birdy (PHTP) #55,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Somebody remembered she'd done a song other than 'Skinny Love'!
>>>>>
>>>>> It's about time she released another album.
>>>>
>>>>But if it's more covers, won't it be much worse?
>>>
>>> Depends on which songs...
>>
>>Presumably a lesser choice of songs than the first one, which is the
>>problem with covers.
>
> Maybe there'll be some of her own - she's supposed to be a songwriter too.

But in that case she'll have to wait until she's written enough good ones.

>>>>>>> Albums
>>>>>>> ------
>>>>>>This Thursday I fulfilled two of my duties as a British citizen: I
>>>>>>voted
>>>>>
>>>>> In what election?
>>>>
>>>>There was a council by-election because the previous councillor
>>>>resigned.
>>>
>>> For a particularly juicy reason, perhaps? :p
>>
>>Yes, he was cautioned for possession of indecent images.
>
> That's a discreet way of saying 'child porn', isn't it... :p

Yes, that's the official name of the criminal offence. I would guess that it
was at the less serious end of the spectrum, as he was only cautioned.

>>Incidentally, another councillor elsewhere in the borough was actually
>>convicted of stealing money from a disabled man. He hasn't resigned
>>though.
>
> Doubt he'd risk standing for re-election next time, though!

Considering that he had the brass neck to claim his council allowances when
he was under a curfew that prevented him going to council meetings, I
wouldn't be so sure of that. I suppose the party might deselect him though.

>>>>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>>>>> ---------------------
>>>>>>> Top 5 : Nick Cave #3,
>
>>>>>>Oh, and it has a naked picture of his wife on the cover.
>>>>>
>>>>> Presumably carefully concealed, a la Bat For Lashes, though?
>>>>
>>>>See for yourself: (arguably NSFW)
>>>>http://dotsanddashes.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Push-the-Sky-Away.jpg
>>>
>>> Ahem - I can see where shops would have to place the price label. ;)
>>
>>Over his ugly mug?
>>I suppose he knows that shops that would baulk at that cover wouldn't be
>>selling his music anyway.
>
> I doubt music shops can afford to be that selective nowadays...

I think most of the remaining shops, beyond the surviving branches of HMV,
are the sort of independent outlets that wouldn't contemplate not stocking a
Nick Cave record whoever was naked on the front of it. Or specialist
dance/hip-hop/classical shops that wouldn't carry him anyway.

Where he would have to be careful would be advertising, and come to think of
it I don't think I have seen any posters for this album.

Chris

Paul Hyett

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On Wed, 27 Feb 2013 at 19:36:09, Chris Brown
<extrem...@yahoospam.com> wrote in uk.music.charts :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Singles
>>>>>>>> -------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Birdy (PHTP) #55,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Somebody remembered she'd done a song other than 'Skinny Love'!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's about time she released another album.
>>>>>
>>>>>But if it's more covers, won't it be much worse?
>>>>
>>>> Depends on which songs...
>>>
>>>Presumably a lesser choice of songs than the first one, which is the
>>>problem with covers.
>>
>> Maybe there'll be some of her own - she's supposed to be a songwriter too.
>
>But in that case she'll have to wait until she's written enough good ones.

Maybe she already has, but wasn't allowed to put them on her debut
album?
>
>>>>>>>> Albums
>>>>>>>> ------
>
>>>Incidentally, another councillor elsewhere in the borough was actually
>>>convicted of stealing money from a disabled man. He hasn't resigned
>>>though.
>>
>> Doubt he'd risk standing for re-election next time, though!
>
>Considering that he had the brass neck to claim his council allowances
>when he was under a curfew that prevented him going to council
>meetings, I wouldn't be so sure of that. I suppose the party might
>deselect him though.

If they want to have *any* chance of winning the seat next time, then
yes!
>
>>>>>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>>>>>> ---------------------
>>
>> I doubt music shops can afford to be that selective nowadays...
>
>I think most of the remaining shops, beyond the surviving branches of
>HMV, are the sort of independent outlets that wouldn't contemplate not
>stocking a Nick Cave record whoever was naked on the front of it. Or
>specialist dance/hip-hop/classical shops that wouldn't carry him anyway.

What about supermarkets - they didn't seem to have a problem selling
horsemeat as 'beef', so why would nudity on an album cover bother them?
:p
>
>Where he would have to be careful would be advertising, and come to
>think of it I don't think I have seen any posters for this album.

Have you ever seen them for *any* Nick Cave album, though?

Chris Brown

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"Paul Hyett" <vidc...@invalid83261.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 27 Feb 2013 at 19:36:09, Chris Brown <extrem...@yahoospam.com>
> wrote in uk.music.charts :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Singles
>>>>>>>>> -------
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Birdy (PHTP) #55,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Somebody remembered she'd done a song other than 'Skinny Love'!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's about time she released another album.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>But if it's more covers, won't it be much worse?
>>>>>
>>>>> Depends on which songs...
>>>>
>>>>Presumably a lesser choice of songs than the first one, which is the
>>>>problem with covers.
>>>
>>> Maybe there'll be some of her own - she's supposed to be a songwriter
>>> too.
>>
>>But in that case she'll have to wait until she's written enough good ones.
>
> Maybe she already has, but wasn't allowed to put them on her debut album?

Possible, although there is one of her own on there.

>>>>>>>>> Albums
>>>>>>>>> ------
>>
>>>>Incidentally, another councillor elsewhere in the borough was actually
>>>>convicted of stealing money from a disabled man. He hasn't resigned
>>>>though.
>>>
>>> Doubt he'd risk standing for re-election next time, though!
>>
>>Considering that he had the brass neck to claim his council allowances
>>when he was under a curfew that prevented him going to council meetings, I
>>wouldn't be so sure of that. I suppose the party might deselect him
>>though.
>
> If they want to have *any* chance of winning the seat next time, then yes!

In theory, although I suspect that in practice most people just vote on
party lines in local elections. Well, most people don't at all, actually -
the turnout in that by-election was only 28%.

>>>>>>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>>>>>>> ---------------------
>>>
>>> I doubt music shops can afford to be that selective nowadays...
>>
>>I think most of the remaining shops, beyond the surviving branches of HMV,
>>are the sort of independent outlets that wouldn't contemplate not stocking
>>a Nick Cave record whoever was naked on the front of it. Or specialist
>>dance/hip-hop/classical shops that wouldn't carry him anyway.
>
> What about supermarkets - they didn't seem to have a problem selling
> horsemeat as 'beef', so why would nudity on an album cover bother them? :p

Does it have to be a nude horse? Nick Cave famously once said that his muse
wasn't a horse.

Anyway, it's relatively unlikely that most supermarkets would be selling a
Nick Cave album whatever the cover looked like, IMO. Remember when Tesco
insisted on covering up that Manic Street Preachers album?

OTOH, I don't think anyone in the UK complained about the Strokes album
cover.

>>Where he would have to be careful would be advertising, and come to think
>>of it I don't think I have seen any posters for this album.
>
> Have you ever seen them for *any* Nick Cave album, though?

Yes, of course.

Chris

Paul Hyett

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On Thu, 28 Feb 2013 at 22:15:37, Chris Brown
<extrem...@yahoospam.com> wrote in uk.music.charts :
>>>
>>>>>Incidentally, another councillor elsewhere in the borough was actually
>>>>>convicted of stealing money from a disabled man. He hasn't resigned
>>>>>though.
>>>>
>>>> Doubt he'd risk standing for re-election next time, though!
>>>
>>>Considering that he had the brass neck to claim his council allowances
>>>when he was under a curfew that prevented him going to council meetings, I
>>>wouldn't be so sure of that. I suppose the party might deselect him
>>>though.
>>
>> If they want to have *any* chance of winning the seat next time, then yes!
>
>In theory, although I suspect that in practice most people just vote on
>party lines in local elections.

*Usually*, yes - but not when there's a strong reason to kick someone's
ass!
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