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Paul Hyett
Feb 10, 2013, 2:44:27 PM2/10/13
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Singles
-------
Macklemore easily claim #1.
New Entries/New Peaks
---------------------
Top 5 : Disclosure #2, Fall Out Boy #5
Top 10 : Dizzee Rascal #10
Top 20 : Little Mix #12, Lawson #13, Ellie Goulding #16
Top 30 :
Top 40 : Imagine Dragons #33
Re-entries T40 : Fray #30, One D (LT) #36, Nickelback (HYRM) #38, Jake
Bugg (LB) #40
New Entries outside the top 40 (plus new peaks) : Bruno Mars (WIWYM)
#46, Tyler James #52, Stereophonics #53, Zedd #67, Drake #71, Pink
(JGMAR) #74
Re-entries T75 : �1 Fish Man #54, Blink 182 (IMY) #54, Outkast (MsJ) #57
Albums
------
The Les Miserables soundtrack returns to #1.
New Entries/New Peaks
---------------------
Top 5 :
Top 10 : Courteeners #6, Andrea Bocelli #7, Frightened Rabbit #9,
Top 20 : Richard Clayderman #13, Eels #14, Kimberley Walsh #18, Devlin
#19, Macklemore #66
New entries/new peaks outside the top 20 : Mavericks #37, Pure Love #43,
Destiny's Child #44, Ron Sexsmith #51, Coheed & Cambria #64
Re-entries : Black Keys (EC) #48, Muse (2ndL) #69, Pink Floyd (AFITD)
#71, (DSOTM) #73, Florence (C) #75
Next Week
---------
Singles
-------
Mackelmore looks certain to remain #1.
Top 5 : Avicii
Top 10 :
Top 20 : Gabrielle Aplin
Top 30 :
Top 40 :
There may be more unexpected OA/OS releases, though.
Albums
------
Foals, or Bullet For My Valentine seem the most likely to challenge Les
Mis.
Top 5 : Foals, Bullet For My Valentine, Richard Thompson
Top 10 : Nerina Pallot, Ocean Colour Scene
Top 20 : Chris Isaac
Others : Crosby Nash & Young
--
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham (change 'invalid83261' to 'blueyonder' to email me)
-------
Macklemore easily claim #1.
New Entries/New Peaks
---------------------
Top 5 : Disclosure #2, Fall Out Boy #5
Top 10 : Dizzee Rascal #10
Top 20 : Little Mix #12, Lawson #13, Ellie Goulding #16
Top 30 :
Top 40 : Imagine Dragons #33
Re-entries T40 : Fray #30, One D (LT) #36, Nickelback (HYRM) #38, Jake
Bugg (LB) #40
New Entries outside the top 40 (plus new peaks) : Bruno Mars (WIWYM)
#46, Tyler James #52, Stereophonics #53, Zedd #67, Drake #71, Pink
(JGMAR) #74
Re-entries T75 : �1 Fish Man #54, Blink 182 (IMY) #54, Outkast (MsJ) #57
Albums
------
The Les Miserables soundtrack returns to #1.
New Entries/New Peaks
---------------------
Top 5 :
Top 10 : Courteeners #6, Andrea Bocelli #7, Frightened Rabbit #9,
Top 20 : Richard Clayderman #13, Eels #14, Kimberley Walsh #18, Devlin
#19, Macklemore #66
New entries/new peaks outside the top 20 : Mavericks #37, Pure Love #43,
Destiny's Child #44, Ron Sexsmith #51, Coheed & Cambria #64
Re-entries : Black Keys (EC) #48, Muse (2ndL) #69, Pink Floyd (AFITD)
#71, (DSOTM) #73, Florence (C) #75
Next Week
---------
Singles
-------
Mackelmore looks certain to remain #1.
Top 5 : Avicii
Top 10 :
Top 20 : Gabrielle Aplin
Top 30 :
Top 40 :
There may be more unexpected OA/OS releases, though.
Albums
------
Foals, or Bullet For My Valentine seem the most likely to challenge Les
Mis.
Top 5 : Foals, Bullet For My Valentine, Richard Thompson
Top 10 : Nerina Pallot, Ocean Colour Scene
Top 20 : Chris Isaac
Others : Crosby Nash & Young
--
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham (change 'invalid83261' to 'blueyonder' to email me)
Chris Brown
Feb 10, 2013, 7:58:46 PM2/10/13
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"Paul Hyett" <vidc...@invalid83261.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Singles
> -------
> Macklemore easily claim #1.
Or claims? Surely Macklemore is a person and Marklemore & Ryan Lewis the
> -------
> Macklemore easily claim #1.
act?
This particular track also features Wanz, who at the age of 51 becomes one
of the oldest people ever to be credited on a Number One single, and
especially one of the oldest to do so for the first time.
The OCC is also reporting that they're the second act ever to top the chart
with a self-released single, though I think that's questionable.
> New Entries/New Peaks
> ---------------------
> Top 5 : Disclosure #2,
by releases at odd times of the week; it's a Friday release date that makes
this one of the few tracks to climb to 2 from outside the Top 20, whereas a
full week's sales last week would probably have seen it up from about 10.
It's now the first T10 hit for both Disclosure (whose previous single
'Latch' peaked at 11) and for the co-credited AlunaGeorge, though I'm not
sure there's any George involved.
I think it's a new peak for Emeli Sandé at 4 as well, but I didn't have much
to say about it anyway.
>Fall Out Boy #5
It's just over three years since they announced an "indefinite hiatus" and
as far as we knew that was it. Then suddenly this turned up earlier this
week, the first single from their forthcoming album. It gives them their
second Top 5 hit after 2007's 'This Ain't A Scene Arseface', and vindicates
again the OAOS release strategy.
> Top 10 : Dizzee Rascal #10
Me' and other hits on his Dirtee Stank label) though even in the highly
unlikely event that this were to climb further this wouldn't count as it's
part of his deal with Universal. It's still interesting to see this less
obviously commercial single outperform some of his supposedly poppier
outings.
> Top 20 : Little Mix #12,
consists of them holding up big placards apologising for the song.
> Lawson #13,
A slightly surprising reverse for this, which now becomes their fourth
consecutive Top 15 single, if you believe in such things. Evidently this is
due to the release of a digital bundle and of autographed CD formats.
I managed to follow most of the chart on Buzzjack today and this was one of
two songs I saw compared to The Wanted.
>Ellie Goulding #16
I liked this less than last week but more than the week before that.
> Top 40 : Imagine Dragons #33
> Re-entries T40 : Fray #30,
A song that's been around longer than anything else in this chart, indeed
just over six years now. Maybe it wouldn't be so bad if the vocal didn't
belie the title.
>One D (LT) #36,
I've never seen an episode of Dancing on Ice but it seems to consist
entirely of people skating to slow songs. This is one of them.
> Nickelback (HYRM) #38,
Who knew there'd come a day when this song was in the Top 40 and it wasn't
the whiniest song in there?
>Jake Bugg (LB) #40
The Olly Murs for snobs has just begun a big national tour and he stopped
off at Radio 2 to give a mumbly interview with Chris Evans, whose large
audience were presumably unaware of Bugg beforehand.
> New Entries outside the top 40 (plus new peaks) : Bruno Mars (WIWYM) #46,
>Tyler James #52,
As above, if this is the second single. It may even crack the Top 40 when
the single version is released.
> Stereophonics #53,
Perhaps even this third-rate George Harrison knock-off might make it in
there eventually.
> Zedd #67,
Told you dance was back.
>Drake #71,
Another unheralded instant release, albeit one from an act we knew was still
in the business.
>Pink (JGMAR) #74
She has experience of big chart climbs too, having gone 38-1 with a song
released late in the week.
> Re-entries T75 : £1 Fish Man #54,
one less likely to re-enter the chart, but a relative drought of new
releases means that discounting is a big helping hand.
>Blink 182 (IMY) #54,
Funny, I'd always thought it was called 'Miss You'. But it isn't.
>Outkast (MsJ) #57
Their first big hit, and one I got tired of quite quickly.
> Albums
> ------
> The Les Miserables soundtrack returns to #1.
absence of several key songs from the musical, particularly 'Do You Hear The
People Sing?', which is why the version of that from the stage cast
recording was selling so well as a download.
> New Entries/New Peaks
> ---------------------
> Top 10 : Courteeners #6,
Third album from the Greater Manchester rock act who seem not to have
attracted much of an audience south of Watford. Indeed, they even seem to
have lost the attentions of the major record company that put out the first
two albums.
Possibly because they only really sold albums to their fanbase anyway, it
doesn't seem to have harmed initial sales of the album that much. They've
apparently tried to embrace a more commercial style on this album, but
that's unlikely to matter considering how few people will hear it.
>Andrea Bocelli #7,
For once I didn't predict this due to the number of new releases. Oops.
>Frightened Rabbit #9,
An act moving *to* a major label this time, this emo-influenced Scottish act
centred around singer and lyricist Scott Hutchinson release their third
full-length album through Atlantic. It includes the lead track from last
year's State Hospital EP as well as new single 'The Woodpile'.
A deluxe version adds three more songs and a DVD of documentaries. It earns
them a first Top 50 position.
> Top 20 : Richard Clayderman #13,
UK release in a decade. The album includes a new version of his breakthrough
song 'Ballade Pour Adeline', plus a series of familiar numbers from the
movies, including the topical choice of a Les Miserable medley. Inevitably
there are a couple of token modern songs, including 'Someone Like You' and
of course 'Hallelujah'. Whoever thought we'd live to see the day when
Richard Clayderman covered a Leonard Cohen song?
>Eels #14,
Tenth studio set from Mark Oliver Everett and his assorted backing musicians
is his/their first since the trilogy of albums released in 2009-10. It's
also the first recorded in the house E now uses as his studio, allowing a
more convincing full-band sound than the ones recorded in basements.
Unusually, it's the second consecutive (relatively) upbeat Eels album,
although his mordant humour is never far from the surface. It's unlikely
that this will add to the act's tally of Top 10 singles but it's what the
fans will have wanted. Indeed, I'm awaiting my own vinyl copy because it's
been popular enough to go into a second pressing.
A deluxe CD version adds a bonus disc of studio and live tracks.
It's their eighth Top 20 album in the UK, whilst back home in the US they
have a total of... zero.
>Kimberley Walsh #18,
It's fair to say that the fortunes of those members of Girls Aloud who've
pursued solo careers have been mixed. As we all know, Cheryl Cole has had
three Number One singles, including a million-seller; Nicola Roberts got the
critical acclaim if not the sales and Nadine Coyle's effort was a bit of a
joke.
Walsh actually made an extra-mural appearance in the singles chart in
collaboration with Aggro Santos in 2011 (before he was charged with rape, of
course) but her first true solo project is this album of songs from the
shows, except for a couple that aren't. It's the third such release to chart
in recent months after similar efforts from Mel C and Susan Boyle. Neither
of those featured Ronan Keating at least.
> Devlin #19,
Second album from the UK rapper who seems to be playing catch-up with Pro
Green. A Moving Picture includes his Top 10 collaborations with Ed Sheeran
and Diane Birch and his less popular one with Wretch 32, whilst Katy B also
shows up on what will presumably be his next single.
>Macklemore #66
The debut album which includes 'Thrift Shop' and its follow-up 'Same Love'.
> New entries/new peaks outside the top 20 : Mavericks #37,
Malo has enjoyed minor success as a solo artist in the meantime. The massive
UK success of 1998's 'Dance The Night Away' is sure to remain a one-off, but
they still have an audience in this country.
>Pure Love #43,
Debut album from the new project led by former Gallows frontman Frank
Carter. As the name suggests, Pure Love are a much more upbeat-sounding act,
with Carter taking to singing rather than shouting and writing more positive
lyrics.
> Destiny's Child #44,
You've probably already noticed that it's February, but just in case you
hadn't here's the first Love Songs album of 2013, a strangely pointless
collection from an act who used to be among the biggest acts in the world.
Not a hits collection, though it does contain their successful cover of
'Emotion' and a remix of 'Say My Name' among the selection of album tracks
(one of which is from a Kelly Rowland solo project). There's also the new
track 'Nuclear', excitedly hyped as their first new material since 2004
although some cynics have suggested it's just a nine-year-old outtake.
Certainly it hasn't made an impact as a single and didn't feature in the
reunion of the most famous line-up at the Superbowl.
>Ron Sexsmith #51,
Two years ago, the Canadian singer-songwriter's aptly-titled 12th album Long
Player, Late Bloomer broke him into the published UK chart for the first
time, albeit only at a peak of 48. It's not quite a lucky 13 as Forever
Endeavour lands a little lower, though it's had a warmer reception from fans
thanks to his reunion with producer Mitchell Froom and the lack of Autotune.
>Coheed & Cambria #64
As The Afterman: Descension is the second half of a conceptual album, you'd
expect it to sell almost exactly the same number of copies to pretty much
the same people. If anything, you'd expect this to chart higher in February
than the previous one did in October 2012. But in fact the opposite has
happened, and this reverses the digits of ...Ascension's 46 peak. Maybe
people were confused by the similar covers.
A deluxe album adds some demo tracks, not that it seems to have helped much.
> Re-entries : Black Keys (EC) #48,
Since the chart was announced, this album has won a Grammy though that
probably won't do a lot for it over here.
>Muse (2ndL) #69,
R1 have playlisted another single from it, but I still get the impression
it's underperforming a little.
> Pink Floyd (AFITD) #71, (DSOTM) #73,
They also featured in an interesting radio documentary about the art of
album sequencing, which mentioned how they sued EMI for daring to sell
tracks from the albums out of context.
> Florence (C) #75
Default re-entry.
> Next Week
> ---------
> Singles
> -------
> Mackelmore looks certain to remain #1.
> Top 5 : Avicii
Can't see this missing the Top 2 now.
> Top 20 : Gabrielle Aplin
Starting to look like my initial insticts weren't wrong.
P!nk and Bruno should be safe for a T40 place at the currentl rate too.
maybe Drake?
> Albums
> ------
> Foals, or Bullet For My Valentine seem the most likely to challenge Les
> Mis.
> Top 5 : Foals, Bullet For My Valentine,
>Richard Thompson
Would be nice to see. Should be safe for T10 anyhow.
> Top 10 : Nerina Pallot,
If she's never had a Top 10 album even with one that was promoted, why
should she manage it with one nobody knows about? I'm not even sure where
this is available.
>Ocean Colour Scene
Seems relatively unlikely as they've struggled to make the Top 40 of late
and anything fanbasey will be at a slight disadvantage this week.
> Top 20 : Chris Isaac
Seems to be a phantom entry on the schedule (which might be why his name's
spelt wrong). I don't really think he has enough hits to shift an unpromoted
best of anyway.
> Others : Crosby Nash & Young
Even big stars' ones don't go Top 75.
Emilia Mitiku could do well with the R2 market.
Chris
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Paul Hyett
Feb 11, 2013, 2:45:42 AM2/11/13
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On Mon, 11 Feb 2013 at 00:58:46, Chris Brown
<extrem...@yahoospam.com> wrote in uk.music.charts :
>> Singles
>> -------
>> Macklemore easily claim #1.
physical era, too...
single... :p
makes you suicidal? :p
>They also featured in an interesting radio documentary about the art of
>album sequencing, which mentioned how they sued EMI for daring to sell
>tracks from the albums out of context.
I just don't get concept albums.
>
>> Next Week
>> ---------
>> Singles
>> -------
>> Mackelmore looks certain to remain #1.
>
>Probable but we'll have to see how fast Avicii can catch up.
They're doing better than I expected.
>
>> Top 5 : Avicii
>
>Can't see this missing the Top 2 now.
Well #2 is part of the top 5...
>
>> Albums
>> ------
<extrem...@yahoospam.com> wrote in uk.music.charts :
>> Singles
>> -------
>> Macklemore easily claim #1.
>This particular track also features Wanz, who at the age of 51 becomes
>one of the oldest people ever to be credited on a Number One single,
>and especially one of the oldest to do so for the first time.
>The OCC is also reporting that they're the second act ever to top the
>chart with a self-released single, though I think that's questionable.
Nizlopi apparently being the first...
>one of the oldest people ever to be credited on a Number One single,
>and especially one of the oldest to do so for the first time.
>The OCC is also reporting that they're the second act ever to top the
>chart with a self-released single, though I think that's questionable.
>
>> New Entries/New Peaks
>> ---------------------
>> Top 5 : Disclosure #2,
>
>One interesting effect in the download era is the unusual chart runs
>created by releases at odd times of the week; it's a Friday release
>date that makes this one of the few tracks to climb to 2 from outside
>the Top 20, whereas a full week's sales last week would probably have
>seen it up from about 10.
But odd chart runs would have been created by 'mistimed' releases in the
>> New Entries/New Peaks
>> ---------------------
>> Top 5 : Disclosure #2,
>
>One interesting effect in the download era is the unusual chart runs
>created by releases at odd times of the week; it's a Friday release
>date that makes this one of the few tracks to climb to 2 from outside
>the Top 20, whereas a full week's sales last week would probably have
>seen it up from about 10.
physical era, too...
>
>>Fall Out Boy #5
>
>It's just over three years since they announced an "indefinite hiatus"
>and as far as we knew that was it. Then suddenly this turned up earlier
>this week, the first single from their forthcoming album. It gives them
>their second Top 5 hit after 2007's 'This Ain't A Scene Arseface', and
>vindicates again the OAOS release strategy.
Does it? It could easily have peaked higher with advance promo...
>>Fall Out Boy #5
>
>It's just over three years since they announced an "indefinite hiatus"
>and as far as we knew that was it. Then suddenly this turned up earlier
>this week, the first single from their forthcoming album. It gives them
>their second Top 5 hit after 2007's 'This Ain't A Scene Arseface', and
>vindicates again the OAOS release strategy.
>
>> Top 20 : Little Mix #12,
>
>Release of a video seems to have given this quite a fillip. I presume
>it consists of them holding up big placards apologising for the song.
Grin.
>> Top 20 : Little Mix #12,
>
>Release of a video seems to have given this quite a fillip. I presume
>it consists of them holding up big placards apologising for the song.
>
>> Lawson #13,
>
>A slightly surprising reverse for this, which now becomes their fourth
>consecutive Top 15 single, if you believe in such things. Evidently
>this is due to the release of a digital bundle and of autographed CD
>formats.
99% due to the former, surely...
>> Lawson #13,
>
>A slightly surprising reverse for this, which now becomes their fourth
>consecutive Top 15 single, if you believe in such things. Evidently
>this is due to the release of a digital bundle and of autographed CD
>formats.
>
>>Ellie Goulding #16
>
>I liked this less than last week but more than the week before that.
I wonder which song here record company *intended* to be the 3rd
>>Ellie Goulding #16
>
>I liked this less than last week but more than the week before that.
single... :p
>
>> Re-entries T40 : Fray #30,
>
>A song that's been around longer than anything else in this chart,
>indeed just over six years now. Maybe it wouldn't be so bad if the
>vocal didn't belie the title.
I assume you refer to the fact that it's such a dirge that hearing it
>> Re-entries T40 : Fray #30,
>
>A song that's been around longer than anything else in this chart,
>indeed just over six years now. Maybe it wouldn't be so bad if the
>vocal didn't belie the title.
makes you suicidal? :p
>
>>One D (LT) #36,
>
>I've never seen an episode of Dancing on Ice but it seems to consist
>entirely of people skating to slow songs.
Well, rapid movement on ice is generally inadvisable, so...
>>One D (LT) #36,
>
>I've never seen an episode of Dancing on Ice but it seems to consist
>entirely of people skating to slow songs.
>
>> New Entries outside the top 40 (plus new peaks) : Bruno Mars (WIWYM) #46,
>
>Sudden head of steam for the second single off his album.
Well, steam does come out of my ears every time I hear a Murs song...
>> New Entries outside the top 40 (plus new peaks) : Bruno Mars (WIWYM) #46,
>
>Sudden head of steam for the second single off his album.
>
>>Pink (JGMAR) #74
>
>She has experience of big chart climbs too, having gone 38-1 with a
>song released late in the week.
A rather random comment?
>>Pink (JGMAR) #74
>
>She has experience of big chart climbs too, having gone 38-1 with a
>song released late in the week.
>
>> Albums
>> ------
>> The Les Miserables soundtrack returns to #1.
>
>An unsurprising return to the top, despite the initial controversy
>about the absence of several key songs from the musical, particularly
>'Do You Hear The People Sing?', which is why the version of that from
>the stage cast recording was selling so well as a download.
Can't say I noticed.
>> Albums
>> ------
>> The Les Miserables soundtrack returns to #1.
>
>An unsurprising return to the top, despite the initial controversy
>about the absence of several key songs from the musical, particularly
>'Do You Hear The People Sing?', which is why the version of that from
>the stage cast recording was selling so well as a download.
>
>> New Entries/New Peaks
>> ---------------------
>
>> Top 10 : Courteeners #6,
>> New Entries/New Peaks
>> ---------------------
>
>> Top 10 : Courteeners #6,
>Possibly because they only really sold albums to their fanbase anyway,
>it doesn't seem to have harmed initial sales of the album that much.
But they may have set a record drop from midweek #1, though.
>it doesn't seem to have harmed initial sales of the album that much.
>
>>Andrea Bocelli #7,
>
>For once I didn't predict this due to the number of new releases. Oops.
Valentines Day effect kicking in?
>>Andrea Bocelli #7,
>
>For once I didn't predict this due to the number of new releases. Oops.
>
>> Devlin #19,
>
>Second album from the UK rapper who seems to be playing catch-up with
>Pro Green.
Not very successfully.
>> Devlin #19,
>
>Second album from the UK rapper who seems to be playing catch-up with
>Pro Green.
>
>>Macklemore #66
>
>The debut album which includes 'Thrift Shop' and its follow-up 'Same Love'.
It first charted last October (just).
>>Macklemore #66
>
>The debut album which includes 'Thrift Shop' and its follow-up 'Same Love'.
>
>> Re-entries : Black Keys (EC) #48,
>
>I'm more surprised this had dropped out.
You said exactly the same thing last time. :)
>> Re-entries : Black Keys (EC) #48,
>
>I'm more surprised this had dropped out.
>
>> Pink Floyd (AFITD) #71, (DSOTM) #73,
>
>Apparently there was a documentary about them on the telly.
Ah.
>> Pink Floyd (AFITD) #71, (DSOTM) #73,
>
>Apparently there was a documentary about them on the telly.
>They also featured in an interesting radio documentary about the art of
>album sequencing, which mentioned how they sued EMI for daring to sell
>tracks from the albums out of context.
>
>> Next Week
>> ---------
>> Singles
>> -------
>> Mackelmore looks certain to remain #1.
>
>Probable but we'll have to see how fast Avicii can catch up.
>
>> Top 5 : Avicii
>
>Can't see this missing the Top 2 now.
>
>> Albums
>> ------
>
>>Richard Thompson
>
>Would be nice to see. Should be safe for T10 anyhow.
Remind me who he is again?
>>Richard Thompson
>
>Would be nice to see. Should be safe for T10 anyhow.
>
>> Top 10 : Nerina Pallot,
>
>If she's never had a Top 10 album even with one that was promoted, why
>should she manage it with one nobody knows about?
I knew about it.
>> Top 10 : Nerina Pallot,
>
>If she's never had a Top 10 album even with one that was promoted, why
>should she manage it with one nobody knows about?
>
>Emilia Mitiku could do well with the R2 market.
Who?
>Emilia Mitiku could do well with the R2 market.
Chris Brown
Feb 11, 2013, 6:03:57 PM2/11/13
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news:C1X1QVcm...@blueyonder.co.uk...
>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>> ---------------------
>>> Top 5 : Disclosure #2,
>>
>>One interesting effect in the download era is the unusual chart runs
>>created by releases at odd times of the week; it's a Friday release date
>>that makes this one of the few tracks to climb to 2 from outside the Top
>>20, whereas a full week's sales last week would probably have seen it up
>>from about 10.
>
> But odd chart runs would have been created by 'mistimed' releases in the
> physical era, too...
True, but in recent times you didn't often get singles released on odd days
of the week, partly for that reason and partly because it was an impractical
thing to do with physical singles - barring exceptional cases like 'Candle
In The Wind 97' of course. You'd occasionally get albums released on odd
days in the 1990s and 2000s but there was a bigger margin for the shop
there.
In the Record Retailer era you did get a lot of big week 2 climbs because
their sales period was out of sync with the then-standard Friday release
day, among other reasons.
>>>Fall Out Boy #5
>>
>>It's just over three years since they announced an "indefinite hiatus" and
>>as far as we knew that was it. Then suddenly this turned up earlier this
>>week, the first single from their forthcoming album. It gives them their
>>second Top 5 hit after 2007's 'This Ain't A Scene Arseface', and
>>vindicates again the OAOS release strategy.
>
> Does it? It could easily have peaked higher with advance promo...
Not much higher! And a Number One being unthinkable, there wouldn't be much
point losing out on total sales for the sake of peaking at 3 instead of 5.
ISTM that the decline of the single since the weekend shows how fast
interest can dissipate.
>>> Lawson #13,
>>
>>A slightly surprising reverse for this, which now becomes their fourth
>>consecutive Top 15 single, if you believe in such things. Evidently this
>>is due to the release of a digital bundle and of autographed CD formats.
>
> 99% due to the former, surely...
Not sure about that TBH, can't imagine either of those selling beyond the
fanbase, so they might have preferred the more collectable physical
versions. Plus there could have been more than one CD.
>>>Ellie Goulding #16
>>
>>I liked this less than last week but more than the week before that.
>
> I wonder which song here record company *intended* to be the 3rd single...
> :p
Probably this. Just not right now.
>>> Re-entries T40 : Fray #30,
>>
>>A song that's been around longer than anything else in this chart, indeed
>>just over six years now. Maybe it wouldn't be so bad if the vocal didn't
>>belie the title.
>
> I assume you refer to the fact that it's such a dirge that hearing it
> makes you suicidal? :p
Yes, but specifically to his awful whiney, strained vocal. I mean, you like
Birdy but you don't like this, do you?
>>>One D (LT) #36,
>>
>>I've never seen an episode of Dancing on Ice but it seems to consist
>>entirely of people skating to slow songs.
>
> Well, rapid movement on ice is generally inadvisable, so...
Surely it'd be better for ratings to make a load of has-been pop stars and
Hollyoaks actors dance to fast songs and watch them fall over.
>>> New Entries outside the top 40 (plus new peaks) : Bruno Mars (WIWYM)
>>> #46,
>>
>>Sudden head of steam for the second single off his album.
>
> Well, steam does come out of my ears every time I hear a Murs song...
I'm sure it does but don't you mean "Mars" in this case.
>>>Pink (JGMAR) #74
>>
>>She has experience of big chart climbs too, having gone 38-1 with a song
>>released late in the week.
>
> A rather random comment?
I don't know any more about this song than I did last week.
>>> Albums
>>> ------
>>> The Les Miserables soundtrack returns to #1.
>>
>>An unsurprising return to the top, despite the initial controversy about
>>the absence of several key songs from the musical, particularly 'Do You
>>Hear The People Sing?', which is why the version of that from the stage
>>cast recording was selling so well as a download.
>
> Can't say I noticed.
Think it went T100 on there (but not overall of course).
>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>> ---------------------
>>
>>> Top 10 : Courteeners #6,
>
>>Possibly because they only really sold albums to their fanbase anyway, it
>>doesn't seem to have harmed initial sales of the album that much.
>
> But they may have set a record drop from midweek #1, though.
Seems unlikely, though I can't think of a bigger one offhand. At least there
were no midweek releases or big-name deaths this week.
>>>Andrea Bocelli #7,
>>
>>For once I didn't predict this due to the number of new releases. Oops.
>
> Valentines Day effect kicking in?
Obviously, although presumably it was helping this one last week as well.
>>> Devlin #19,
>>
>>Second album from the UK rapper who seems to be playing catch-up with Pro
>>Green.
>
> Not very successfully.
Isn't that the implication of the phrase though?
>>>Macklemore #66
>>
>>The debut album which includes 'Thrift Shop' and its follow-up 'Same
>>Love'.
>
> It first charted last October (just).
Wonder if it was just downloads then?
>>> Re-entries : Black Keys (EC) #48,
>>
>>I'm more surprised this had dropped out.
>
> You said exactly the same thing last time. :)
Well it's still true now.
>>> Pink Floyd (AFITD) #71, (DSOTM) #73,
>>
>>Apparently there was a documentary about them on the telly.
>
> Ah.
>
>>They also featured in an interesting radio documentary about the art of
>>album sequencing, which mentioned how they sued EMI for daring to sell
>>tracks from the albums out of context.
>
> I just don't get concept albums.
I don't always, although of course they're not synonymous with albums that
have a significant running order.
In the documentary, Guy Garvey wondered aloud why he was one of the few
musicians who spoke out in the Floyd's favour at the time. Probably because
most of us thought it was really about money (as the subsequent release of
Foot In The Door seems to suggest).
>>> Next Week
>>> ---------
>>> Singles
>>> -------
>>> Mackelmore looks certain to remain #1.
>>
>>Probable but we'll have to see how fast Avicii can catch up.
>
> They're doing better than I expected.
Looks like they'll almost certainly be Number 1 on mids at least.
>>> Top 5 : Avicii
>>
>>Can't see this missing the Top 2 now.
>
> Well #2 is part of the top 5...
That's true.
>>> Albums
>>> ------
>>
>>>Richard Thompson
>>
>>Would be nice to see. Should be safe for T10 anyhow.
>
> Remind me who he is again?
This is why we all love you Paul, because you can predict somebody for a Top
5 entry and then say you've never heard of him.
>>> Top 10 : Nerina Pallot,
>>
>>If she's never had a Top 10 album even with one that was promoted, why
>>should she manage it with one nobody knows about?
>
> I knew about it.
Technically so do I, but only from a thread on Haven. Amazon don't seem to
know and there won't be any sales in HMV for it.
>>Emilia Mitiku could do well with the R2 market.
>
> Who?
You said that about Kristina Train. Or at least you would have if I'd
mentioned her.
Chris
> On Mon, 11 Feb 2013 at 00:58:46, Chris Brown <extrem...@yahoospam.com>
> wrote in uk.music.charts :
>
>>> Singles
>>> -------
>>> Macklemore easily claim #1.
>
>>This particular track also features Wanz, who at the age of 51 becomes one
>>of the oldest people ever to be credited on a Number One single, and
>>especially one of the oldest to do so for the first time.
>
>>The OCC is also reporting that they're the second act ever to top the
>>chart with a self-released single, though I think that's questionable.
>
> Nizlopi apparently being the first...
I hadn't even thought of them - I had Dizzee Rascal and Stiltskin.
> wrote in uk.music.charts :
>
>>> Singles
>>> -------
>>> Macklemore easily claim #1.
>
>>This particular track also features Wanz, who at the age of 51 becomes one
>>of the oldest people ever to be credited on a Number One single, and
>>especially one of the oldest to do so for the first time.
>
>>The OCC is also reporting that they're the second act ever to top the
>>chart with a self-released single, though I think that's questionable.
>
> Nizlopi apparently being the first...
>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>> ---------------------
>>> Top 5 : Disclosure #2,
>>
>>One interesting effect in the download era is the unusual chart runs
>>created by releases at odd times of the week; it's a Friday release date
>>that makes this one of the few tracks to climb to 2 from outside the Top
>>20, whereas a full week's sales last week would probably have seen it up
>>from about 10.
>
> But odd chart runs would have been created by 'mistimed' releases in the
> physical era, too...
of the week, partly for that reason and partly because it was an impractical
thing to do with physical singles - barring exceptional cases like 'Candle
In The Wind 97' of course. You'd occasionally get albums released on odd
days in the 1990s and 2000s but there was a bigger margin for the shop
there.
In the Record Retailer era you did get a lot of big week 2 climbs because
their sales period was out of sync with the then-standard Friday release
day, among other reasons.
>>>Fall Out Boy #5
>>
>>It's just over three years since they announced an "indefinite hiatus" and
>>as far as we knew that was it. Then suddenly this turned up earlier this
>>week, the first single from their forthcoming album. It gives them their
>>second Top 5 hit after 2007's 'This Ain't A Scene Arseface', and
>>vindicates again the OAOS release strategy.
>
> Does it? It could easily have peaked higher with advance promo...
point losing out on total sales for the sake of peaking at 3 instead of 5.
ISTM that the decline of the single since the weekend shows how fast
interest can dissipate.
>>> Lawson #13,
>>
>>A slightly surprising reverse for this, which now becomes their fourth
>>consecutive Top 15 single, if you believe in such things. Evidently this
>>is due to the release of a digital bundle and of autographed CD formats.
>
> 99% due to the former, surely...
fanbase, so they might have preferred the more collectable physical
versions. Plus there could have been more than one CD.
>>>Ellie Goulding #16
>>
>>I liked this less than last week but more than the week before that.
>
> I wonder which song here record company *intended* to be the 3rd single...
> :p
>>> Re-entries T40 : Fray #30,
>>
>>A song that's been around longer than anything else in this chart, indeed
>>just over six years now. Maybe it wouldn't be so bad if the vocal didn't
>>belie the title.
>
> I assume you refer to the fact that it's such a dirge that hearing it
> makes you suicidal? :p
Birdy but you don't like this, do you?
>>>One D (LT) #36,
>>
>>I've never seen an episode of Dancing on Ice but it seems to consist
>>entirely of people skating to slow songs.
>
> Well, rapid movement on ice is generally inadvisable, so...
Hollyoaks actors dance to fast songs and watch them fall over.
>>> New Entries outside the top 40 (plus new peaks) : Bruno Mars (WIWYM)
>>> #46,
>>
>>Sudden head of steam for the second single off his album.
>
> Well, steam does come out of my ears every time I hear a Murs song...
>>>Pink (JGMAR) #74
>>
>>She has experience of big chart climbs too, having gone 38-1 with a song
>>released late in the week.
>
> A rather random comment?
>>> Albums
>>> ------
>>> The Les Miserables soundtrack returns to #1.
>>
>>An unsurprising return to the top, despite the initial controversy about
>>the absence of several key songs from the musical, particularly 'Do You
>>Hear The People Sing?', which is why the version of that from the stage
>>cast recording was selling so well as a download.
>
> Can't say I noticed.
>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>> ---------------------
>>
>>> Top 10 : Courteeners #6,
>
>>Possibly because they only really sold albums to their fanbase anyway, it
>>doesn't seem to have harmed initial sales of the album that much.
>
> But they may have set a record drop from midweek #1, though.
were no midweek releases or big-name deaths this week.
>>>Andrea Bocelli #7,
>>
>>For once I didn't predict this due to the number of new releases. Oops.
>
> Valentines Day effect kicking in?
>>> Devlin #19,
>>
>>Second album from the UK rapper who seems to be playing catch-up with Pro
>>Green.
>
> Not very successfully.
>>>Macklemore #66
>>
>>The debut album which includes 'Thrift Shop' and its follow-up 'Same
>>Love'.
>
> It first charted last October (just).
>>> Re-entries : Black Keys (EC) #48,
>>
>>I'm more surprised this had dropped out.
>
> You said exactly the same thing last time. :)
>>> Pink Floyd (AFITD) #71, (DSOTM) #73,
>>
>>Apparently there was a documentary about them on the telly.
>
> Ah.
>
>>They also featured in an interesting radio documentary about the art of
>>album sequencing, which mentioned how they sued EMI for daring to sell
>>tracks from the albums out of context.
>
> I just don't get concept albums.
have a significant running order.
In the documentary, Guy Garvey wondered aloud why he was one of the few
musicians who spoke out in the Floyd's favour at the time. Probably because
most of us thought it was really about money (as the subsequent release of
Foot In The Door seems to suggest).
>>> Next Week
>>> ---------
>>> Singles
>>> -------
>>> Mackelmore looks certain to remain #1.
>>
>>Probable but we'll have to see how fast Avicii can catch up.
>
> They're doing better than I expected.
>>> Top 5 : Avicii
>>
>>Can't see this missing the Top 2 now.
>
> Well #2 is part of the top 5...
>>> Albums
>>> ------
>>
>>>Richard Thompson
>>
>>Would be nice to see. Should be safe for T10 anyhow.
>
> Remind me who he is again?
5 entry and then say you've never heard of him.
>>> Top 10 : Nerina Pallot,
>>
>>If she's never had a Top 10 album even with one that was promoted, why
>>should she manage it with one nobody knows about?
>
> I knew about it.
know and there won't be any sales in HMV for it.
>>Emilia Mitiku could do well with the R2 market.
>
> Who?
mentioned her.
Chris
Paul Hyett
Feb 12, 2013, 1:45:53 AM2/12/13
to
On Mon, 11 Feb 2013 at 23:03:57, Chris Brown
>
>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>> ---------------------
runs - I dare say Robbie remembers what I mean... :)
they'd be distributed differently timewise.
>
>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>> ---------------------
old...
>
>>>> Next Week
>>>> ---------
<extrem...@yahoospam.com> wrote in uk.music.charts :
>>
>>>> Singles
>>>> -------
>>>> Macklemore easily claim #1.
>>
>>>This particular track also features Wanz, who at the age of 51 becomes one
>>>of the oldest people ever to be credited on a Number One single, and
>>>especially one of the oldest to do so for the first time.
>>
>>>The OCC is also reporting that they're the second act ever to top the
>>>chart with a self-released single, though I think that's questionable.
>>
>> Nizlopi apparently being the first...
>
>I hadn't even thought of them - I had Dizzee Rascal and Stiltskin.
Do they qualify?
>>
>>>> Singles
>>>> -------
>>>> Macklemore easily claim #1.
>>
>>>This particular track also features Wanz, who at the age of 51 becomes one
>>>of the oldest people ever to be credited on a Number One single, and
>>>especially one of the oldest to do so for the first time.
>>
>>>The OCC is also reporting that they're the second act ever to top the
>>>chart with a self-released single, though I think that's questionable.
>>
>> Nizlopi apparently being the first...
>
>I hadn't even thought of them - I had Dizzee Rascal and Stiltskin.
>
>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>> ---------------------
>>
>> But odd chart runs would have been created by 'mistimed' releases in the
>> physical era, too...
>
>True, but in recent times you didn't often get singles released on odd days
>of the week, partly for that reason and partly because it was an impractical
>thing to do with physical singles - barring exceptional cases like 'Candle
>In The Wind 97' of course. You'd occasionally get albums released on odd
>days in the 1990s and 2000s but there was a bigger margin for the shop
>there.
>In the Record Retailer era you did get a lot of big week 2 climbs because
>their sales period was out of sync with the then-standard Friday release
>day, among other reasons.
>
I remember in the 80's, TOTP used to create some really strange chart
>> But odd chart runs would have been created by 'mistimed' releases in the
>> physical era, too...
>
>True, but in recent times you didn't often get singles released on odd days
>of the week, partly for that reason and partly because it was an impractical
>thing to do with physical singles - barring exceptional cases like 'Candle
>In The Wind 97' of course. You'd occasionally get albums released on odd
>days in the 1990s and 2000s but there was a bigger margin for the shop
>there.
>In the Record Retailer era you did get a lot of big week 2 climbs because
>their sales period was out of sync with the then-standard Friday release
>day, among other reasons.
>
runs - I dare say Robbie remembers what I mean... :)
>>
>> Does it? It could easily have peaked higher with advance promo...
>
>Not much higher! And a Number One being unthinkable, there wouldn't be much
>point losing out on total sales for the sake of peaking at 3 instead of 5.
Why would they have fewer *total* sales? All that would happen is that
>> Does it? It could easily have peaked higher with advance promo...
>
>Not much higher! And a Number One being unthinkable, there wouldn't be much
>point losing out on total sales for the sake of peaking at 3 instead of 5.
they'd be distributed differently timewise.
>
>>>> Re-entries T40 : Fray #30,
>>>
>>>A song that's been around longer than anything else in this chart, indeed
>>>just over six years now. Maybe it wouldn't be so bad if the vocal didn't
>>>belie the title.
>>
>> I assume you refer to the fact that it's such a dirge that hearing it
>> makes you suicidal? :p
>
>Yes, but specifically to his awful whiney, strained vocal. I mean, you
>like Birdy but you don't like this, do you?
Birdy's voice is nothing like his!
>>>> Re-entries T40 : Fray #30,
>>>
>>>A song that's been around longer than anything else in this chart, indeed
>>>just over six years now. Maybe it wouldn't be so bad if the vocal didn't
>>>belie the title.
>>
>> I assume you refer to the fact that it's such a dirge that hearing it
>> makes you suicidal? :p
>
>Yes, but specifically to his awful whiney, strained vocal. I mean, you
>like Birdy but you don't like this, do you?
>
>>>>One D (LT) #36,
>>>
>>>I've never seen an episode of Dancing on Ice but it seems to consist
>>>entirely of people skating to slow songs.
>>
>> Well, rapid movement on ice is generally inadvisable, so...
>
>Surely it'd be better for ratings to make a load of has-been pop stars
>and Hollyoaks actors dance to fast songs and watch them fall over.
Surely that's why they hired Pammie? :p
>>>>One D (LT) #36,
>>>
>>>I've never seen an episode of Dancing on Ice but it seems to consist
>>>entirely of people skating to slow songs.
>>
>> Well, rapid movement on ice is generally inadvisable, so...
>
>Surely it'd be better for ratings to make a load of has-been pop stars
>and Hollyoaks actors dance to fast songs and watch them fall over.
>
>>>> New Entries outside the top 40 (plus new peaks) : Bruno Mars (WIWYM)
>>>> #46,
>>>
>>>Sudden head of steam for the second single off his album.
>>
>> Well, steam does come out of my ears every time I hear a Murs song...
>
>I'm sure it does but don't you mean "Mars" in this case.
Both.
>>>> New Entries outside the top 40 (plus new peaks) : Bruno Mars (WIWYM)
>>>> #46,
>>>
>>>Sudden head of steam for the second single off his album.
>>
>> Well, steam does come out of my ears every time I hear a Murs song...
>
>I'm sure it does but don't you mean "Mars" in this case.
>
>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>> ---------------------
>
>>>>Macklemore #66
>>>
>>>The debut album which includes 'Thrift Shop' and its follow-up 'Same
>>>Love'.
>>
>> It first charted last October (just).
>
>Wonder if it was just downloads then?
Who knows.
>>>>Macklemore #66
>>>
>>>The debut album which includes 'Thrift Shop' and its follow-up 'Same
>>>Love'.
>>
>> It first charted last October (just).
>
>Wonder if it was just downloads then?
>
>>>> Re-entries : Black Keys (EC) #48,
>>>
>>>I'm more surprised this had dropped out.
>>
>> You said exactly the same thing last time. :)
>
>Well it's still true now.
But why would you be surprised it dropped out - it's over 14 months
>>>> Re-entries : Black Keys (EC) #48,
>>>
>>>I'm more surprised this had dropped out.
>>
>> You said exactly the same thing last time. :)
>
>Well it's still true now.
old...
>
>>>> Next Week
>>>> ---------
>>>> Albums
>>>> ------
>>>
>>>>Richard Thompson
>>>
>>>Would be nice to see. Should be safe for T10 anyhow.
>>
>> Remind me who he is again?
>
>This is why we all love you Paul, because you can predict somebody for
>a Top 5 entry and then say you've never heard of him.
I remember the name, but not necessarily their musical history.
>>>> ------
>>>
>>>>Richard Thompson
>>>
>>>Would be nice to see. Should be safe for T10 anyhow.
>>
>> Remind me who he is again?
>
>This is why we all love you Paul, because you can predict somebody for
>a Top 5 entry and then say you've never heard of him.
Robbie
Feb 12, 2013, 4:56:25 AM2/12/13
to
Paul Hyett wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Feb 2013 at 23:03:57, Chris Brown
> <extrem...@yahoospam.com> wrote in uk.music.charts :
>>>
>>>
> On Mon, 11 Feb 2013 at 23:03:57, Chris Brown
> <extrem...@yahoospam.com> wrote in uk.music.charts :
>>>
>>>
>>> But odd chart runs would have been created by 'mistimed' releases in the
>>> physical era, too...
>>
>> True, but in recent times you didn't often get singles released on odd
>> days
>> of the week, partly for that reason and partly because it was an
>> impractical
>> thing to do with physical singles - barring exceptional cases like
>> 'Candle
>> In The Wind 97' of course. You'd occasionally get albums released on odd
>> days in the 1990s and 2000s but there was a bigger margin for the shop
>> there.
>> In the Record Retailer era you did get a lot of big week 2 climbs because
>> their sales period was out of sync with the then-standard Friday release
>> day, among other reasons.
>>
> I remember in the 80's, TOTP used to create some really strange chart
> runs - I dare say Robbie remembers what I mean... :)
A mixture of TOTP and weekend releases - Monday releases didn't become
>>> physical era, too...
>>
>> True, but in recent times you didn't often get singles released on odd
>> days
>> of the week, partly for that reason and partly because it was an
>> impractical
>> thing to do with physical singles - barring exceptional cases like
>> 'Candle
>> In The Wind 97' of course. You'd occasionally get albums released on odd
>> days in the 1990s and 2000s but there was a bigger margin for the shop
>> there.
>> In the Record Retailer era you did get a lot of big week 2 climbs because
>> their sales period was out of sync with the then-standard Friday release
>> day, among other reasons.
>>
> I remember in the 80's, TOTP used to create some really strange chart
> runs - I dare say Robbie remembers what I mean... :)
the norm for big releases until the mid 80s and for many singles a late
week release was still common until the late 80s or even the early 90s.
--
Robbie
Paul Hyett
Feb 12, 2013, 12:47:19 PM2/12/13
to
On Tue, 12 Feb 2013 at 09:56:25, Robbie <ngrob...@hotmail.com> wrote
in uk.music.charts :
Thurs, so songs that appeared on TOTP didn't receive their boost until a
week later, with some even falling before then...
in uk.music.charts :
>>>
>> I remember in the 80's, TOTP used to create some really strange chart
>>runs - I dare say Robbie remembers what I mean... :)
>
>A mixture of TOTP and weekend releases - Monday releases didn't become
>the norm for big releases until the mid 80s and for many singles a late
>week release was still common until the late 80s or even the early 90s.
>
IIRC there was period in the early 80's where the sales week ended on
>> I remember in the 80's, TOTP used to create some really strange chart
>>runs - I dare say Robbie remembers what I mean... :)
>
>A mixture of TOTP and weekend releases - Monday releases didn't become
>the norm for big releases until the mid 80s and for many singles a late
>week release was still common until the late 80s or even the early 90s.
>
Thurs, so songs that appeared on TOTP didn't receive their boost until a
week later, with some even falling before then...
Robbie
Feb 12, 2013, 1:20:45 PM2/12/13
to
Paul Hyett wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Feb 2013 at 09:56:25, Robbie <ngrob...@hotmail.com> wrote
> in uk.music.charts :
>>>>
>>> I remember in the 80's, TOTP used to create some really strange chart
>>> runs - I dare say Robbie remembers what I mean... :)
>>
>> A mixture of TOTP and weekend releases - Monday releases didn't become
>> the norm for big releases until the mid 80s and for many singles a
>> late week release was still common until the late 80s or even the
>> early 90s.
>>
> IIRC there was period in the early 80's where the sales week ended on
> Thurs, so songs that appeared on TOTP didn't receive their boost until a
> week later, with some even falling before then...
ah, I see what you mean. The sales week changed from Mon to Sat to Sat
> On Tue, 12 Feb 2013 at 09:56:25, Robbie <ngrob...@hotmail.com> wrote
> in uk.music.charts :
>>>>
>>> I remember in the 80's, TOTP used to create some really strange chart
>>> runs - I dare say Robbie remembers what I mean... :)
>>
>> A mixture of TOTP and weekend releases - Monday releases didn't become
>> the norm for big releases until the mid 80s and for many singles a
>> late week release was still common until the late 80s or even the
>> early 90s.
>>
> IIRC there was period in the early 80's where the sales week ended on
> Thurs, so songs that appeared on TOTP didn't receive their boost until a
> week later, with some even falling before then...
to Fri for a period in early 1982 which, when combined with the TOTP
effect, meant some records featured on TOTP had erratic chart runs. The
same had happened in 1976 and early 1977, each time being due to the
chart compilers needing to cut back on costs.
--
Robbie
Chris Brown
Feb 12, 2013, 3:32:04 PM2/12/13
to
news:JcmnKxph...@blueyonder.co.uk...
than Macklemore's: Dizzee had already been made famous on an established
indie label and the Stilskin track featured prominently in a high-profile TV
ad.
>>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>>> ---------------------
>>> Does it? It could easily have peaked higher with advance promo...
>>
>>Not much higher! And a Number One being unthinkable, there wouldn't be
>>much
>>point losing out on total sales for the sake of peaking at 3 instead of 5.
>
> Why would they have fewer *total* sales? All that would happen is that
> they'd be distributed differently timewise.
I don't think that's a safe assumption. There must be people who would buy
the single now but wouldn't have bother if it was only going to come out the
week before the album. And - relatedly - people who might buy an OAOS track
expecting it to grow on them.
>>>>> Re-entries T40 : Fray #30,
>>>>
>>>>A song that's been around longer than anything else in this chart,
>>>>indeed
>>>>just over six years now. Maybe it wouldn't be so bad if the vocal didn't
>>>>belie the title.
>>>
>>> I assume you refer to the fact that it's such a dirge that hearing it
>>> makes you suicidal? :p
>>
>>Yes, but specifically to his awful whiney, strained vocal. I mean, you
>>like Birdy but you don't like this, do you?
>
> Birdy's voice is nothing like his!
Yeah, that was my point.
To give another example, I bet you prefer Birdy's version of 'People Help
The People' for the original.
>>>>>One D (LT) #36,
>>>>
>>>>I've never seen an episode of Dancing on Ice but it seems to consist
>>>>entirely of people skating to slow songs.
>>>
>>> Well, rapid movement on ice is generally inadvisable, so...
>>
>>Surely it'd be better for ratings to make a load of has-been pop stars and
>>Hollyoaks actors dance to fast songs and watch them fall over.
>
> Surely that's why they hired Pammie? :p
Who fell over to the pounding junglist beats of 'Read All About It Part 3'?
If they had fast songs, everybody could fall over, not just her.
>>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>>> ---------------------
>>
>>>>>Macklemore #66
>>>>
>>>>The debut album which includes 'Thrift Shop' and its follow-up 'Same
>>>>Love'.
>>>
>>> It first charted last October (just).
>>
>>Wonder if it was just downloads then?
>
> Who knows.
I don't, that's why I was only wondering.
>>>>> Re-entries : Black Keys (EC) #48,
>>>>
>>>>I'm more surprised this had dropped out.
>>>
>>> You said exactly the same thing last time. :)
>>
>>Well it's still true now.
>
> But why would you be surprised it dropped out - it's over 14 months old...
Oh silly me, why would it be in the chart with modern albums like Rumours
and Dark Side Of The Moon? :P
Apparently their performance was cut from the UK broadcast of the Grammys so
they'll get even less promotion from that.
>>>>> Next Week
>>>>> ---------
>>>>> Albums
>>>>> ------
>>>>
>>>>>Richard Thompson
>>>>
>>>>Would be nice to see. Should be safe for T10 anyhow.
>>>
>>> Remind me who he is again?
>>
>>This is why we all love you Paul, because you can predict somebody for a
>>Top 5 entry and then say you've never heard of him.
>
> I remember the name, but not necessarily their musical history.
But surely it's their musical history that's the important bit? I know my
Dad's name, that doesn't mean I expect him to chart an album.
Chris
> On Mon, 11 Feb 2013 at 23:03:57, Chris Brown <extrem...@yahoospam.com>
> wrote in uk.music.charts :
>>>
>>>>> Singles
>>>>> -------
>>>>> Macklemore easily claim #1.
>>>
>>>>This particular track also features Wanz, who at the age of 51 becomes
>>>>one
>>>>of the oldest people ever to be credited on a Number One single, and
>>>>especially one of the oldest to do so for the first time.
>>>
>>>>The OCC is also reporting that they're the second act ever to top the
>>>>chart with a self-released single, though I think that's questionable.
>>>
>>> Nizlopi apparently being the first...
>>
>>I hadn't even thought of them - I had Dizzee Rascal and Stiltskin.
>
> Do they qualify?
Well, so MW have said previously. In a sense their achievements are lesser
> wrote in uk.music.charts :
>>>
>>>>> Singles
>>>>> -------
>>>>> Macklemore easily claim #1.
>>>
>>>>This particular track also features Wanz, who at the age of 51 becomes
>>>>one
>>>>of the oldest people ever to be credited on a Number One single, and
>>>>especially one of the oldest to do so for the first time.
>>>
>>>>The OCC is also reporting that they're the second act ever to top the
>>>>chart with a self-released single, though I think that's questionable.
>>>
>>> Nizlopi apparently being the first...
>>
>>I hadn't even thought of them - I had Dizzee Rascal and Stiltskin.
>
> Do they qualify?
than Macklemore's: Dizzee had already been made famous on an established
indie label and the Stilskin track featured prominently in a high-profile TV
ad.
>>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>>> ---------------------
>>> Does it? It could easily have peaked higher with advance promo...
>>
>>Not much higher! And a Number One being unthinkable, there wouldn't be
>>much
>>point losing out on total sales for the sake of peaking at 3 instead of 5.
>
> Why would they have fewer *total* sales? All that would happen is that
> they'd be distributed differently timewise.
the single now but wouldn't have bother if it was only going to come out the
week before the album. And - relatedly - people who might buy an OAOS track
expecting it to grow on them.
>>>>> Re-entries T40 : Fray #30,
>>>>
>>>>A song that's been around longer than anything else in this chart,
>>>>indeed
>>>>just over six years now. Maybe it wouldn't be so bad if the vocal didn't
>>>>belie the title.
>>>
>>> I assume you refer to the fact that it's such a dirge that hearing it
>>> makes you suicidal? :p
>>
>>Yes, but specifically to his awful whiney, strained vocal. I mean, you
>>like Birdy but you don't like this, do you?
>
> Birdy's voice is nothing like his!
To give another example, I bet you prefer Birdy's version of 'People Help
The People' for the original.
>>>>>One D (LT) #36,
>>>>
>>>>I've never seen an episode of Dancing on Ice but it seems to consist
>>>>entirely of people skating to slow songs.
>>>
>>> Well, rapid movement on ice is generally inadvisable, so...
>>
>>Surely it'd be better for ratings to make a load of has-been pop stars and
>>Hollyoaks actors dance to fast songs and watch them fall over.
>
> Surely that's why they hired Pammie? :p
If they had fast songs, everybody could fall over, not just her.
>>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>>> ---------------------
>>
>>>>>Macklemore #66
>>>>
>>>>The debut album which includes 'Thrift Shop' and its follow-up 'Same
>>>>Love'.
>>>
>>> It first charted last October (just).
>>
>>Wonder if it was just downloads then?
>
> Who knows.
>>>>> Re-entries : Black Keys (EC) #48,
>>>>
>>>>I'm more surprised this had dropped out.
>>>
>>> You said exactly the same thing last time. :)
>>
>>Well it's still true now.
>
> But why would you be surprised it dropped out - it's over 14 months old...
and Dark Side Of The Moon? :P
Apparently their performance was cut from the UK broadcast of the Grammys so
they'll get even less promotion from that.
>>>>> Next Week
>>>>> ---------
>>>>> Albums
>>>>> ------
>>>>
>>>>>Richard Thompson
>>>>
>>>>Would be nice to see. Should be safe for T10 anyhow.
>>>
>>> Remind me who he is again?
>>
>>This is why we all love you Paul, because you can predict somebody for a
>>Top 5 entry and then say you've never heard of him.
>
> I remember the name, but not necessarily their musical history.
Dad's name, that doesn't mean I expect him to chart an album.
Chris
Paul Hyett
Feb 13, 2013, 2:00:07 AM2/13/13
to
On Tue, 12 Feb 2013 at 20:32:04, Chris Brown
>And - relatedly - people who might buy an OAOS track expecting it to
>grow on them.
ISTM only hardcore fans would do that - and they buy it *anyway*.
>
>>>>>> Re-entries T40 : Fray #30,
no idea who the original is even by?
>
>
>>>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>>>> ---------------------
>Apparently their performance was cut from the UK broadcast of the
>Grammys
I wonder why?
success before...
>I know my Dad's name, that doesn't mean I expect him to chart an album.
Huh?
>>>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>>>> ---------------------
>>>> Does it? It could easily have peaked higher with advance promo...
>>>
>>>Not much higher! And a Number One being unthinkable, there wouldn't be
>>>much
>>>point losing out on total sales for the sake of peaking at 3 instead of 5.
>>
>> Why would they have fewer *total* sales? All that would happen is that
>> they'd be distributed differently timewise.
>
>I don't think that's a safe assumption. There must be people who would
>buy the single now but wouldn't have bother if it was only going to
>come out the week before the album.
OK, fair point.
>>>>>> ---------------------
>>>> Does it? It could easily have peaked higher with advance promo...
>>>
>>>Not much higher! And a Number One being unthinkable, there wouldn't be
>>>much
>>>point losing out on total sales for the sake of peaking at 3 instead of 5.
>>
>> Why would they have fewer *total* sales? All that would happen is that
>> they'd be distributed differently timewise.
>
>I don't think that's a safe assumption. There must be people who would
>buy the single now but wouldn't have bother if it was only going to
>come out the week before the album.
>And - relatedly - people who might buy an OAOS track expecting it to
>grow on them.
>
>>>>>> Re-entries T40 : Fray #30,
>>>
>>>Yes, but specifically to his awful whiney, strained vocal. I mean, you
>>>like Birdy but you don't like this, do you?
>>
>> Birdy's voice is nothing like his!
>
>Yeah, that was my point.
>To give another example, I bet you prefer Birdy's version of 'People
>Help The People' for the original.
I can't answer that, as Birdy's is the only version I've heard. I have
>>>Yes, but specifically to his awful whiney, strained vocal. I mean, you
>>>like Birdy but you don't like this, do you?
>>
>> Birdy's voice is nothing like his!
>
>Yeah, that was my point.
>To give another example, I bet you prefer Birdy's version of 'People
>Help The People' for the original.
no idea who the original is even by?
>
>>>>>>One D (LT) #36,
>>>>>
>>>>>I've never seen an episode of Dancing on Ice but it seems to consist
>>>>>entirely of people skating to slow songs.
>>>>
>>>> Well, rapid movement on ice is generally inadvisable, so...
>>>
>>>Surely it'd be better for ratings to make a load of has-been pop stars and
>>>Hollyoaks actors dance to fast songs and watch them fall over.
>>
>> Surely that's why they hired Pammie? :p
>
>Who fell over to the pounding junglist beats of 'Read All About It Part 3'?
Well, she does tend to be front-heavy... :p
>>>>>>One D (LT) #36,
>>>>>
>>>>>I've never seen an episode of Dancing on Ice but it seems to consist
>>>>>entirely of people skating to slow songs.
>>>>
>>>> Well, rapid movement on ice is generally inadvisable, so...
>>>
>>>Surely it'd be better for ratings to make a load of has-been pop stars and
>>>Hollyoaks actors dance to fast songs and watch them fall over.
>>
>> Surely that's why they hired Pammie? :p
>
>Who fell over to the pounding junglist beats of 'Read All About It Part 3'?
>
>
>>>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>>>> ---------------------
>
>>>>>> Re-entries : Black Keys (EC) #48,
>>>>>
>>>>>I'm more surprised this had dropped out.
>>>>
>>>> You said exactly the same thing last time. :)
>>>
>>>Well it's still true now.
>>
>> But why would you be surprised it dropped out - it's over 14 months old...
>
>Oh silly me, why would it be in the chart with modern albums like
>Rumours and Dark Side Of The Moon? :P
Oh come on - it's hardly in the same class...
>>>>>> Re-entries : Black Keys (EC) #48,
>>>>>
>>>>>I'm more surprised this had dropped out.
>>>>
>>>> You said exactly the same thing last time. :)
>>>
>>>Well it's still true now.
>>
>> But why would you be surprised it dropped out - it's over 14 months old...
>
>Oh silly me, why would it be in the chart with modern albums like
>Rumours and Dark Side Of The Moon? :P
>Apparently their performance was cut from the UK broadcast of the
>Grammys
>
>>>>>> Next Week
>>>>>> ---------
>>>>>> Albums
>>>>>> ------
>>>>>
>>>>>>Richard Thompson
>>>>>
>>>>>Would be nice to see. Should be safe for T10 anyhow.
>>>>
>>>> Remind me who he is again?
>>>
>>>This is why we all love you Paul, because you can predict somebody for a
>>>Top 5 entry and then say you've never heard of him.
>>
>> I remember the name, but not necessarily their musical history.
>
>But surely it's their musical history that's the important bit?
That's the part I often can't remember, except that he's had solo
>>>>>> Next Week
>>>>>> ---------
>>>>>> Albums
>>>>>> ------
>>>>>
>>>>>>Richard Thompson
>>>>>
>>>>>Would be nice to see. Should be safe for T10 anyhow.
>>>>
>>>> Remind me who he is again?
>>>
>>>This is why we all love you Paul, because you can predict somebody for a
>>>Top 5 entry and then say you've never heard of him.
>>
>> I remember the name, but not necessarily their musical history.
>
>But surely it's their musical history that's the important bit?
success before...
>I know my Dad's name, that doesn't mean I expect him to chart an album.
Chris Brown
Feb 13, 2013, 4:22:51 PM2/13/13
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wouldn't have to worry about whether it was going to grow on them, they'd
know it would. It's the next tier of fandom I was thinking of.
>>>>>>> Re-entries T40 : Fray #30,
>>>>
>>>>Yes, but specifically to his awful whiney, strained vocal. I mean, you
>>>>like Birdy but you don't like this, do you?
>>>
>>> Birdy's voice is nothing like his!
>>
>>Yeah, that was my point.
>
>>To give another example, I bet you prefer Birdy's version of 'People Help
>>The People' for the original.
>
> I can't answer that, as Birdy's is the only version I've heard. I have no
> idea who the original is even by?
Cherry Ghost:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYGOLzMgI88
Obviously, Birdy's version is at a similar pace but she has a less dirgey
voice. And yes, The Fray do come up as a suggested video alongside that.
PS - I know you don't use Spotify but I'll remind those who do that I made a
playlist on there of all the originals of the songs on her album:
http://open.spotify.com/user/nowthats/playlist/3aP2RRNgynaWZ8Y5ITCkCu
>>>>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>>>>> ---------------------
>>
>>>>>>> Re-entries : Black Keys (EC) #48,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I'm more surprised this had dropped out.
>>>>>
>>>>> You said exactly the same thing last time. :)
>>>>
>>>>Well it's still true now.
>>>
>>> But why would you be surprised it dropped out - it's over 14 months
>>> old...
>>
>>Oh silly me, why would it be in the chart with modern albums like Rumours
>>and Dark Side Of The Moon? :P
>
> Oh come on - it's hardly in the same class...
Yeah, nowhere near as boring as Pink Floyd.
>>Apparently their performance was cut from the UK broadcast of the Grammys
>
> I wonder why?
Presumably because they wanted to save the small amount of airtime for the
big names like Timberlake.
Or maybe the BKs just don't want people to buy their music. If they did they
wouldn't be charging thirty quid for the vinyl version, etc.
>>>>>>> Next Week
>>>>>>> ---------
>>>>>>> Albums
>>>>>>> ------
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Richard Thompson
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Would be nice to see. Should be safe for T10 anyhow.
>>>>>
>>>>> Remind me who he is again?
>>>>
>>>>This is why we all love you Paul, because you can predict somebody for a
>>>>Top 5 entry and then say you've never heard of him.
>>>
>>> I remember the name, but not necessarily their musical history.
>>
>>But surely it's their musical history that's the important bit?
>
> That's the part I often can't remember, except that he's had solo success
> before...
He's not the only one though.
>>I know my Dad's name, that doesn't mean I expect him to chart an album.
>
> Huh?
Because his musical history (or rather the fact that he has none other than
looking like Jools Holland) is the relevant fact there.
Chris
> On Tue, 12 Feb 2013 at 20:32:04, Chris Brown <extrem...@yahoospam.com>
> wrote in uk.music.charts :
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Singles
>>>>>>> -------
>>>>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>>>>> ---------------------
>>>>> Does it? It could easily have peaked higher with advance promo...
>>>>
>>>>Not much higher! And a Number One being unthinkable, there wouldn't be
>>>>much
>>>>point losing out on total sales for the sake of peaking at 3 instead of
>>>>5.
>>>
>>> Why would they have fewer *total* sales? All that would happen is that
>>> they'd be distributed differently timewise.
>>
>>I don't think that's a safe assumption. There must be people who would buy
>>the single now but wouldn't have bother if it was only going to come out
>>the week before the album.
>
> OK, fair point.
>
>>And - relatedly - people who might buy an OAOS track expecting it to grow
>>on them.
>
> ISTM only hardcore fans would do that - and they buy it *anyway*.
Presuming a pre-album release at all, hardcore fans would buy it - but they
> wrote in uk.music.charts :
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Singles
>>>>>>> -------
>>>>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>>>>> ---------------------
>>>>> Does it? It could easily have peaked higher with advance promo...
>>>>
>>>>Not much higher! And a Number One being unthinkable, there wouldn't be
>>>>much
>>>>point losing out on total sales for the sake of peaking at 3 instead of
>>>>5.
>>>
>>> Why would they have fewer *total* sales? All that would happen is that
>>> they'd be distributed differently timewise.
>>
>>I don't think that's a safe assumption. There must be people who would buy
>>the single now but wouldn't have bother if it was only going to come out
>>the week before the album.
>
> OK, fair point.
>
>>And - relatedly - people who might buy an OAOS track expecting it to grow
>>on them.
>
> ISTM only hardcore fans would do that - and they buy it *anyway*.
wouldn't have to worry about whether it was going to grow on them, they'd
know it would. It's the next tier of fandom I was thinking of.
>>>>>>> Re-entries T40 : Fray #30,
>>>>
>>>>Yes, but specifically to his awful whiney, strained vocal. I mean, you
>>>>like Birdy but you don't like this, do you?
>>>
>>> Birdy's voice is nothing like his!
>>
>>Yeah, that was my point.
>
>>To give another example, I bet you prefer Birdy's version of 'People Help
>>The People' for the original.
>
> I can't answer that, as Birdy's is the only version I've heard. I have no
> idea who the original is even by?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYGOLzMgI88
Obviously, Birdy's version is at a similar pace but she has a less dirgey
voice. And yes, The Fray do come up as a suggested video alongside that.
PS - I know you don't use Spotify but I'll remind those who do that I made a
playlist on there of all the originals of the songs on her album:
http://open.spotify.com/user/nowthats/playlist/3aP2RRNgynaWZ8Y5ITCkCu
>>>>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>>>>> ---------------------
>>
>>>>>>> Re-entries : Black Keys (EC) #48,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I'm more surprised this had dropped out.
>>>>>
>>>>> You said exactly the same thing last time. :)
>>>>
>>>>Well it's still true now.
>>>
>>> But why would you be surprised it dropped out - it's over 14 months
>>> old...
>>
>>Oh silly me, why would it be in the chart with modern albums like Rumours
>>and Dark Side Of The Moon? :P
>
> Oh come on - it's hardly in the same class...
>>Apparently their performance was cut from the UK broadcast of the Grammys
>
> I wonder why?
big names like Timberlake.
Or maybe the BKs just don't want people to buy their music. If they did they
wouldn't be charging thirty quid for the vinyl version, etc.
>>>>>>> Next Week
>>>>>>> ---------
>>>>>>> Albums
>>>>>>> ------
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Richard Thompson
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Would be nice to see. Should be safe for T10 anyhow.
>>>>>
>>>>> Remind me who he is again?
>>>>
>>>>This is why we all love you Paul, because you can predict somebody for a
>>>>Top 5 entry and then say you've never heard of him.
>>>
>>> I remember the name, but not necessarily their musical history.
>>
>>But surely it's their musical history that's the important bit?
>
> That's the part I often can't remember, except that he's had solo success
> before...
>>I know my Dad's name, that doesn't mean I expect him to chart an album.
>
> Huh?
looking like Jools Holland) is the relevant fact there.
Chris
Paul Hyett
Feb 14, 2013, 2:25:06 AM2/14/13
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On Wed, 13 Feb 2013 at 21:22:51, Chris Brown
is awful! :(
>
>
>>>>>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>>>>>> ---------------------
<extrem...@yahoospam.com> wrote in uk.music.charts :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Singles
>>>>>>>> -------
>>>>>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>>>>>> ---------------------
>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Singles
>>>>>>>> -------
>>>>>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>>>>>> ---------------------
>>
>> ISTM only hardcore fans would do that - and they buy it *anyway*.
>
>Presuming a pre-album release at all, hardcore fans would buy it - but
>they wouldn't have to worry about whether it was going to grow on them,
>they'd know it would.
>It's the next tier of fandom I was thinking of.
Which would be?
>
>Presuming a pre-album release at all, hardcore fans would buy it - but
>they wouldn't have to worry about whether it was going to grow on them,
>they'd know it would.
>It's the next tier of fandom I was thinking of.
>
>>>To give another example, I bet you prefer Birdy's version of 'People Help
>>>The People' for the original.
>>
>> I can't answer that, as Birdy's is the only version I've heard. I have no
>> idea who the original is even by?
>
>Cherry Ghost:
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYGOLzMgI88
>
>Obviously, Birdy's version is at a similar pace but she has a less
>dirgey voice.
At least I've *heard* of Birdy - and you're right about the original, it
>>>To give another example, I bet you prefer Birdy's version of 'People Help
>>>The People' for the original.
>>
>> I can't answer that, as Birdy's is the only version I've heard. I have no
>> idea who the original is even by?
>
>Cherry Ghost:
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYGOLzMgI88
>
>Obviously, Birdy's version is at a similar pace but she has a less
>dirgey voice.
is awful! :(
>
>
>>>>>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>>>>>> ---------------------
>
>>>Apparently their performance was cut from the UK broadcast of the Grammys
>>
>> I wonder why?
>
>Presumably because they wanted to save the small amount of airtime for
>the big names like Timberlake.
>Or maybe the BKs just don't want people to buy their music. If they did
>they wouldn't be charging thirty quid for the vinyl version, etc.
Because it would sell millions otherwise? 8)
>>>Apparently their performance was cut from the UK broadcast of the Grammys
>>
>> I wonder why?
>
>Presumably because they wanted to save the small amount of airtime for
>the big names like Timberlake.
>Or maybe the BKs just don't want people to buy their music. If they did
>they wouldn't be charging thirty quid for the vinyl version, etc.
Chris Brown
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dead-set on them. I'm in that position with some acts, though obviously not
FOB who are awful.
>>>>To give another example, I bet you prefer Birdy's version of 'People
>>>>Help
>>>>The People' for the original.
>>>
>>> I can't answer that, as Birdy's is the only version I've heard. I have
>>> no
>>> idea who the original is even by?
>>
>>Cherry Ghost:
>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYGOLzMgI88
>>
>>Obviously, Birdy's version is at a similar pace but she has a less dirgey
>>voice.
>
> At least I've *heard* of Birdy - and you're right about the original, it
> is awful! :(
They were comparably-sized hits, I suppose.
>>>>>>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>>>>>>> ---------------------
>>
>>>>Apparently their performance was cut from the UK broadcast of the
>>>>Grammys
>>>
>>> I wonder why?
>>
>>Presumably because they wanted to save the small amount of airtime for the
>>big names like Timberlake.
>
>>Or maybe the BKs just don't want people to buy their music. If they did
>>they wouldn't be charging thirty quid for the vinyl version, etc.
>
> Because it would sell millions otherwise? 8)
It would have sold one more at a sensible price.
Chris
> On Wed, 13 Feb 2013 at 21:22:51, Chris Brown <extrem...@yahoospam.com>
> wrote in uk.music.charts :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Singles
>>>>>>>>> -------
>>>>>>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>>>>>>> ---------------------
>>>
>>> ISTM only hardcore fans would do that - and they buy it *anyway*.
>>
>>Presuming a pre-album release at all, hardcore fans would buy it - but
>>they wouldn't have to worry about whether it was going to grow on them,
>>they'd know it would.
>
>>It's the next tier of fandom I was thinking of.
>
> Which would be?
People who like them and generally buy their records but aren't absolutely
> wrote in uk.music.charts :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Singles
>>>>>>>>> -------
>>>>>>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>>>>>>> ---------------------
>>>
>>> ISTM only hardcore fans would do that - and they buy it *anyway*.
>>
>>Presuming a pre-album release at all, hardcore fans would buy it - but
>>they wouldn't have to worry about whether it was going to grow on them,
>>they'd know it would.
>
>>It's the next tier of fandom I was thinking of.
>
> Which would be?
dead-set on them. I'm in that position with some acts, though obviously not
FOB who are awful.
>>>>To give another example, I bet you prefer Birdy's version of 'People
>>>>Help
>>>>The People' for the original.
>>>
>>> I can't answer that, as Birdy's is the only version I've heard. I have
>>> no
>>> idea who the original is even by?
>>
>>Cherry Ghost:
>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYGOLzMgI88
>>
>>Obviously, Birdy's version is at a similar pace but she has a less dirgey
>>voice.
>
> At least I've *heard* of Birdy - and you're right about the original, it
> is awful! :(
>>>>>>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>>>>>>> ---------------------
>>
>>>>Apparently their performance was cut from the UK broadcast of the
>>>>Grammys
>>>
>>> I wonder why?
>>
>>Presumably because they wanted to save the small amount of airtime for the
>>big names like Timberlake.
>
>>Or maybe the BKs just don't want people to buy their music. If they did
>>they wouldn't be charging thirty quid for the vinyl version, etc.
>
> Because it would sell millions otherwise? 8)
Chris
Paul Hyett
Feb 16, 2013, 2:13:48 AM2/16/13
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On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 at 19:42:24, Chris Brown
<extrem...@yahoospam.com> wrote in uk.music.charts :
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Singles
>>>>>>>>>> -------
>>>>>>>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------
>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Singles
>>>>>>>>>> -------
>>>>>>>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------
>
>>>>>To give another example, I bet you prefer Birdy's version of 'People
>>>>>Help
>>>>>The People' for the original.
>>>>
>>>> I can't answer that, as Birdy's is the only version I've heard. I have
>>>> no
>>>> idea who the original is even by?
>>>
>>>Cherry Ghost:
>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYGOLzMgI88
>>>
>>>Obviously, Birdy's version is at a similar pace but she has a less dirgey
>>>voice.
>>
>> At least I've *heard* of Birdy - and you're right about the original, it
>> is awful! :(
>
>They were comparably-sized hits, I suppose.
That Cherry Ghost atrocity *charted*??
>>>>>Help
>>>>>The People' for the original.
>>>>
>>>> I can't answer that, as Birdy's is the only version I've heard. I have
>>>> no
>>>> idea who the original is even by?
>>>
>>>Cherry Ghost:
>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYGOLzMgI88
>>>
>>>Obviously, Birdy's version is at a similar pace but she has a less dirgey
>>>voice.
>>
>> At least I've *heard* of Birdy - and you're right about the original, it
>> is awful! :(
>
>They were comparably-sized hits, I suppose.
Chris Brown
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27 in 2007. So obviously a beneficiary of pisspoor singles saes back then,
but the album went Top 10 as well. I suppose if you liked the song it was
the only version you could buy then.
Chris
but the album went Top 10 as well. I suppose if you liked the song it was
the only version you could buy then.
Chris
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