Chart Commentary 23/3/13

[Paul Hyett]

Singles
-------
Justin Timberlake is still #1.

New Entries/New Peaks
---------------------
Top 5 : Pink #3,
Top 10 : Nicole S #6
Top 20 : Olly Murs #12, Nelly #17, K Koke #18
Top 30 : The 1975 #21, Taylor Swift (22) #26
Top 40 : Blake Lewis #38

Re-entries T40 : Christina Perri #27, Imagine Dragons #36

New Entries outside the top 40 (plus new peaks) : Gorgon City #54,
Maroon 5 #63, Calvin/Ellie (INYL) #75

Re-entries T75 : David G #47, OD (LT) #53, Mario #58, Kendrick Lamar
#59, Emeli #64, Bon Jovi #65, James (SD) #73


Albums
------
David Bowie claims his 9th #1 album, no less than 20 years after his
last!

New Entries/New Peaks
---------------------
Top 5 : Bon Jovi #2
Top 10 : Hurts #9
Top 20 : John Grant #16, Sound City #19

New entries/new peaks outside the top 20 : Stornoway #26, Tim McGraw
#43, Worship Central #45, Cribs #69

Re-entries : Jeff Wayne #58, Abba #67, Blondie #71 (what is this, a 70's
invasion) :p, Of Monsters & Men #73, Fleetwood Mac #74

Oddly, #75 seems to have been omitted from the OCC website...


Next Week
---------
Singles
-------
Barring unforeseen OAOS entries, this must surely be The Saturdays best
chance of a #1. I don't see any other listed new release threatening
even the top 40.

Top 5 :
Top 10 :
Top 20 :
Top 30 :
Top 40 :

There may be unexpected OA/OS releases, of course.

Albums
------
Justin Timberlake looks a cast iron certainty for #1 next Sunday.

Top 5 :
Top 10 :
Top 20 : Black Rebel Motorcycle Club, Hadouken

Others : Alex Day, Billy Bragg, Bridgit Mendler, Nigel Kennedy
--
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham (change 'invalid83261' to 'blueyonder' to email me)

[Chris Brown]

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> Singles
> -------
> Justin Timberlake is still #1.

He is, despite what's hardly his best material. In fact I don't even think
it's his best song in this week's chart.

> New Entries/New Peaks
> ---------------------
> Top 5 : Pink #3,

Dull, but at least not very autotuned.

> Top 10 : Nicole S #6

The aptly-titled 'Boomerang' topped the midweek charts on Tuesday and
Wednesday, but by end of the week it had already turned around and ends up
falling short of the Top 5. According to Gezza at Buzzjack, it's the first
single to manage this unenviable record since 'Silver Shorts' by the Wedding
Present, which ended up at 14 in 1992 but at least had the excuse of being a
limited 7" only release. This has tailed off for no better reason than
limited interest.

> Top 20 : Olly Murs #12,

A minor climb, not enough to assume a sales increase as yet. But it does
give me an excuse to mention how much it sounds like the theme from Thomas
The Tank Engine.

>Nelly #17,

Apparently it's been two years since his last hit. No, I hadn't noticed
either.
This single, not a high point even by his standards, charted outside the Top
100 last week due to a Friday release but now makes more of an impact with a
full week's sales.

>K Koke #18

In contrast to Nelly, this is the first Top 40 appearance for North West
Londong rapper Kevin Georgiou, who is signed to Jay-Z's Roc Nation imprint.
In an attempt to drum up interest in his career, he's been teamed with the
label's most famous British signing, Rita Ora. And together they've done a
poor pastiche of Devlin's poor pastiche of Professor Green's poor pastiche
of 'Love The Way You Lie', which I never much liked in the first place.

> Top 30 : The 1975 #21,

A song that's certainly about a brown substance, but which one?

>Taylor Swift (22) #26

A song that's actually worse than I expected. For once I can't blame Radio 2
for playlisting a random album track instead.

> Top 40 : Blake Lewis #38

Last time Microsoft launched a big advertising campaing, they used a song by
a man with two first names (Alex Clare). This time they've gone for somebody
with two surnames instead, thus gifting an American Idol runner-up from
several years ago his first chance at a UK hit.

> Re-entries T40 : Christina Perri #27,

Speaking of advertising, this uninteresting song gains from advertising of
the DVD of the final Twilight film, in which a version of this song appears.

>Imagine Dragons #36

And continuing the commercial break, this song enjoys a third Top 40 run
without touching the Top 30 after heavy usage in trailers for a forthcoming
film. It's unsurprisingly also being used to advertise their own album.

> New Entries outside the top 40 (plus new peaks) : Gorgon City #54,

Not the gothic metal act their name might suggest, although the credit for
vocalist Yasmin probably gave that away. They are in fact a duo of
electronic producers.

> Maroon 5 #63,

Still a lot lower than its airplay chart position. This is by far the
strongest argument for keeping airplay out of the main chart.

>Calvin/Ellie (INYL) #75

A track that made the T200 on names when whichever album was released first.

> Re-entries T75 : David G #47,

I assume at this point that it's a deliberate joke that you don't identify
which Guetta song is which but do for almost everyone else.

>OD (LT) #53,

Seems to have been the main beneficiary - other than the current single of
course - from their Comic Relief promotion. Steve Wright seems to have been
playing it every day for no apparent reason.

>Mario #58,

OK, I admit you haven't identifed this song either, although most people
probably don't remember that he had other hits in the first place.
Credit where it's due though, I can remember the chorus of this more easily
than that of NeYo's song a decade later.

> Kendrick Lamar #59,

New peak?

>Emeli #64,

'Next To Me', which isn't unexpected.

>Bon Jovi #65,

...But this isn't 'Livin On A Prayer', for a change.

> James (SD) #73

Despite the fact that James actually had quite a lot of hits, this would for
good or ill usually be the one people would guess had re-entered.
In a very slight vindication of my prediction that there might be an extra
Comic Relief single, this featured prominently in a sketch with Peter Kay on
Friday night, although on this occasion he stopped short of re-recording the
song or even miming to it. So whilst the band themselves have agreed to
donate royalties from sales of the track (presumably for a finite period of
time), the large number of copies of it already in circulation means there's
not much impetus to buy it and it's out of the iTunes Top 40 already.

> Albums
> ------
> David Bowie claims his 9th #1 album, no less than 20 years after his last!

A pedant writes: it's a couple of weeks less than 20 years since the chart
dated 17th April 1993, when Black Tie White Noise deposed Suede's first
album from the top. Nonetheless, it effectively doubles his span of Number
One albums since Aladdin Sane kept the Beatles off Number One in May 1973.
It's easy to forget that three months ago most of us never expected to hear
another new Bowie album. Though he never announced a retirement, he seemed
to have quit active music making after his health scare in the early 2000s.
Whilst he can't (and surely doesn't) expect to set the musical agenda as he
once did, he's nonetheless made the release of The Next Day a major event by
ripping up the rule book for what most acts of his vintage (or indeed
younger acts returning after a long absence). He hasn't made a point of
working with much younger people to assert his relevance, but neither has he
released a set of nostalgic cover versions (although one song is based on
the riff from 'Apache'). Nor was the release preceded by some pointless
online countdown, a series of videos from the studio or the man himself
giving scores of "exclusive" interviews to the press about what he did
decades ago. Instead, he took advantage of his status (and of the lack of
other news in early January) to place the first single 'Where Are We Now?'
straight onto iTunes without advance warning. Instantly, the album was an
event, more so than anything he's done in a good while, before anyone had
heard more than one track from it.
So what of the album now it's finally here (well, admittedly it was
available to stream online a couple of weeks ago, but you know what I mean)?
As it turns out, the first single was a (possibly deliberate) misdirection,
with the reflective mood and, especially, his rather thin, aged-sounding
vocal, atypical of what's mostly a slightly retro-sounding rock album
similar to his previous two discs Heathen and Reality. And the man's in good
voice too.
The album still appears in the cover that some people initially thought was
a joke - in a sense of course it still is - with the defaced version of the
"Heroes" album cover. A record shop I follow on Twitter has gone a step
further, changing the reworked artwork to "The Next Month" in protest at the
postponement of the vinyl version.
The label have succeeded in releasing the deluxe CD with three additional
tracks which I might download in the future, although the album seems long
enough as it is.

> New Entries/New Peaks
> ---------------------
> Top 5 : Bon Jovi #2

I realise I wrote a lot about the Bowie album, but don't worry there's much
less to say about this one. Although both albums were preceded by On Air On
Sale single releases in January, there was predictably less fuss about this
one as we were about due a new Bon Jovi album anyway. Thirty years or so
into their career, Jon Bongiovi and his mates have been going through the
motions for a long time and the release of What About Now doesn't exactly
change that, although they have returned slightly closer to their original
soft-rock sound after dalliances with country - although this is all
relative and five of the songs were co-written with producer John Shanks,
famous for his work with headbanging metal muthas like Take That, Backstreet
Boys and Westlife.
The UK and Australian deluxe versions add four bonus tracks, although two of
these are in fact solo cuts by Jon Bon Jovi (one of them the Golden Globe
nominated 'Not Running Anymore') and the fourth is a track from Richie
Sambora's last solo album. Surely the sor of Bon Jovi fans who'd pay extra
for a deluxe album are exactly the ones who'd already have that?

> Top 10 : Hurts #9

Second album from the British 80s revival duo whose debut album sold better
in central and eastern Europe than over here, which might be why this one's
called Exile.
Either they or their record company dropped something of a clanger by
failing to capitalise on the opportunity of a slot on Jonathan Ross's TV
show a few weeks ago, so despite the strong start I suspect this may go the
way of the second White Lies album.
The deluxe version rewards fans with two extra tracks and a DVD documentary
about their tour of Russia.

> Top 20 : John Grant #16,

The former lead singer of The Czars received much critical acclaim, if few
sales for his 2010 solo debut Queen Of Denmark. A follow-up has been a while
in coming, partly for personal reasons: he was diagnosed HIV-positive in
2011 and has also moved to Iceland. Whilst the lyrics mention these and
other events in his life, following the confessional style of his first
album, he's shifted his musical style to an unusual confection of MOR and
electronica. But with lots of swearing.
I admit that when I read those facts in descriptions of the album, I assumed
it'd be awful; but I decided to listen to it and was pleasantly surprised.
An unusual record and certainly not for everyone (his ex-partner is unlikely
to enjoy it either) but one that's likely to be held dear for a long time by
some people. It's quite funny too.
The albums is also available with a bonus CD of remixes or as an
aptly-coloured vinyl album, which would have been tempting if it didn't cost
so much.

> Sound City #19

The soundtrack to Dave Grohl's documentary about a now-closed recording
studio features Grohl in collaboration with various other clients of the
facility. Naturally these include the other members of Foo Fighters and
Queens Of The Stone Age, though there are less obvious collaborations with
Stevie Nicks, Black Rebel Motorcycle Club, Rick Springfield(!) and a track
which reunites the surviving members of Nirvana with Paul McCartney taking
over as vocalist.

> New entries/new peaks outside the top 20 : Stornoway #26,

Self-produced in the drummer's parents' garage, Tales From Terra Firma is
the second album from the slightly arty folk-rock quartet, though it seems
to have slipped out a bit quietly now they no longer have the new-band hype
around them.

>Tim McGraw #43,

Making his UK album chart debut a leisurely 8 years after he topped the
singles chart in collaboration with the aforementioned Nelly, and almost 13
years after his wife Faith Hill enjoyed her first Top 20 album here. You can
tell he's heading for the US country mainstream when the first single from
the album is called 'Truck Yeah!', whilst it also includes a duet with
Taylor Swift on 'Highway Don't Care'.
The album peaked at 2 in the US last month, but was released here later to
coincide with his live appearance in London last night.

>Worship Central #45,

Recorded live at the Holy Trinity Brompton, famous as the birthplace of the
Alpha Course, this is one time when we can be fairly confident that a track
called 'Hallelujah' isn't a Leonard Cohen cover.

>Cribs #69

This best-of set from the Wakefield siblings was originally due for release
a fortnight ago, which would have put it into theoretical competition with
ex-member Johnny Marr. However, the release was postponed due to a
manufacturing problem, and being the Cribs they couldn't let this go without
a self-important pious press statement. The album collects 21 songs from
their five studio albums, plus "new" single 'Leather Jacket Love Song'
(actually an outtake from the Marr days). A deluxe format adds a further 18
tracks of B-sides and rarities, featuring indier-than-thou titles like 'Get
Yr Hands Out Of My Grave' 'Advice From A Roving Artist' and 'Glandular Fever
Got The Best Of Me'.

> Re-entries : Jeff Wayne #58,

Sadly, the bet-you-can't-guess-which-Jeff-Wayne-album-it-is joke no longer
works, thanks to the release of this re-recording.

>Abba #67,

This is the album you'd expect. A strong seller at any time, they've gained
a little extra profile this week from Agnetha's new solo material.

>Blondie #71 (what is this, a 70's invasion) :p,

I wonder whether this has gained from specific discounting? Obviously the 1D
version of 'One Way Or Another' has had some effect in recent weeks, but
there are a lot of Blondie albums out there.

>Of Monsters & Men #73,

Seems to be the default re-entry du jour - it's climbed only three places in
a week where sales are likely to have slumped considerably.

> Fleetwood Mac #74

Seemingly gaining at the expense of the earlier Greatest Hits set. This one
is probably marginally the better, although it omits the proper version of
'Big Love'.

> Oddly, #75 seems to have been omitted from the OCC website...

It did eventually update at about 9, to show "Best Of" by David Bowie
climbing from 75. Confusingly, Best Of Bowie was - and still is - appearing
as a new entry at 97.

> Next Week
> ---------
> Singles
> -------
> Barring unforeseen OAOS entries, this must surely be The Saturdays best
> chance of a #1.

There's still time, Flo Rida!
And we can't entirely write off Timberlake just yet, as his video is
expected during the week.

>I don't see any other listed new release threatening even the top 40.

Looking at recent iTunes updates, it seems that Kodaline might make it, and
Iggy Azalea can't be ruled out. Paramore are another possibility, though of
course not a new release today.

> There may be unexpected OA/OS releases, of course.

There's an expected one from 30 Seconds To Mars on Tuesday, so if the record
company have the courage of their convictions and don't postpone the UK
release until October or something that should be able to go T40 or maybe
T30.
The other possibility to consider is that Duke Dumond might be brought
forward.

> Albums
> ------
> Justin Timberlake looks a cast iron certainty for #1 next Sunday.

Yes, and he might well get the first six-figure sale of 2013 now.

> Top 20 : Black Rebel Motorcycle Club,

Possible at a quiet time, but their last one didn't do much.

> Hadouken

Also possible. Apparently they sold 10ok of their last one??

> Others : Alex Day,

Download only of course, and as it only costs �3:99 can that actually appear
in the main chart?
Of course, his fans can only buy one copy each this time so the point may be
moost anyway.

> Billy Bragg,

Agreed.

> Bridgit Mendler,

Dubious about this one, though, when it didn't even do that well in America.

> Nigel Kennedy

You always predict his albums are going to chart and they never do. If the
Amazon chart is anything to go by it won't even be the biggest selling album
by a violinist.

Also, the aforementioned Suede have a new album which looks set for Top 10,
Low are probably about due another chart appearance and Daughter fit the
folk-indie trend.

Chris
--
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[Paul Hyett]

On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 at 22:37:19, Chris Brown
<extrem...@yahoospam.com> wrote in uk.music.charts :

>> Singles
>> -------
>> Justin Timberlake is still #1.
>
>He is, despite what's hardly his best material. In fact I don't even
>think it's his best song in this week's chart.

Just lucky timing - 3 weeks at #1 with what are relatively modest totals
by today's standards...

>
>> New Entries/New Peaks
>> ---------------------
>> Top 5 : Pink #3,
>
>Dull, but at least not very autotuned.

Denied the #2 by One D's CR surge...

>
>> Top 10 : Nicole S #6
>
>The aptly-titled 'Boomerang' topped the midweek charts on Tuesday and
>Wednesday, but by end of the week it had already turned around and ends
>up falling short of the Top 5. According to Gezza at Buzzjack, it's the
>first single to manage this unenviable record since 'Silver Shorts' by
>the Wedding Present, which ended up at 14 in 1992 but at least had the
>excuse of being a limited 7" only release. This has tailed off for no
>better reason than limited interest.

Not to mention limited promo...

>
>> Top 20 : Olly Murs #12,
>
>A minor climb, not enough to assume a sales increase as yet. But it
>does give me an excuse to mention how much it sounds like the theme
>from Thomas The Tank Engine.

Again...

>
>> Top 30 : The 1975 #21,
>
>A song that's certainly about a brown substance, but which one?

I know which one the song most reminds me of... :p

>
>>Taylor Swift (22) #26
>
>A song that's actually worse than I expected. For once I can't blame
>Radio 2 for playlisting a random album track instead.

She looks great in the video as always, though.

>
>> Re-entries T40 : Christina Perri #27,
>
>Speaking of advertising, this uninteresting song gains from advertising
>of the DVD of the final Twilight film, in which a version of this song
>appears.

At least no-one can accuse her of being a one-hit-wonder now.

>
>>Imagine Dragons #36
>
>And continuing the commercial break, this song enjoys a third Top 40
>run without touching the Top 30 after heavy usage in trailers for a
>forthcoming film.

Oh, that's why...

>
>> Maroon 5 #63,
>
>Still a lot lower than its airplay chart position. This is by far the
>strongest argument for keeping airplay out of the main chart.

I assume you don't mean *just* because it's Maroon 5? :)

>
>>Calvin/Ellie (INYL) #75
>
>A track that made the T200 on names when whichever album was released first.

Huh?

>
>> Re-entries T75 : David G #47,
>
>I assume at this point that it's a deliberate joke that you don't
>identify which Guetta song is which but do for almost everyone else.

Well, the obvious abbreviation for this song would inevitably lead to
awful puns... :)

>
>>OD (LT) #53,
>
>Seems to have been the main beneficiary - other than the current single
>of course - from their Comic Relief promotion. Steve Wright seems to
>have been playing it every day for no apparent reason.

Other than - he's an idiot?

>
>> Kendrick Lamar #59,
>
>New peak?
>

Yes.

>
>> Albums
>> ------
>> David Bowie claims his 9th #1 album, no less than 20 years after his last!
>
>A pedant writes: it's a couple of weeks less than 20 years since the
>chart dated 17th April 1993, when Black Tie White Noise deposed Suede's
>first album from the top. Nonetheless, it effectively doubles his span
>of Number One albums since Aladdin Sane kept the Beatles off Number One
>in May 1973.

When was Ziggy Stardust, then?

>The label have succeeded in releasing the deluxe CD with three
>additional tracks which I might download in the future, although the
>album seems long enough as it is.

Isn't that the point of 'extended versions'. :p
>
>> New Entries/New Peaks
>> ---------------------

>> Top 10 : Hurts #9
>
>Second album from the British 80s revival duo whose debut album sold
>better in central and eastern Europe than over here, which might be why
>this one's called Exile.

Grin.

>
>> Top 20 : John Grant #16,
>
>The former lead singer of The Czars

Ah.

>
>>Tim McGraw #43,
>
>Making his UK album chart debut

Seriously?

>
>>Worship Central #45,
>
>Recorded live at the Holy Trinity Brompton, famous as the birthplace of
>the Alpha Course, this is one time when we can be fairly confident that
>a track called 'Hallelujah' isn't a Leonard Cohen cover.

Grin.

>
>>Abba #67,
>
>This is the album you'd expect. A strong seller at any time, they've
>gained a little extra profile this week from Agnetha's new solo
>material.

As if anyone outside Sweden even knew about it...

>
>> Oddly, #75 seems to have been omitted from the OCC website...
>
>It did eventually update at about 9, to show "Best Of" by David Bowie
>climbing from 75. Confusingly, Best Of Bowie was - and still is -
>appearing as a new entry at 97.

I'd better make sure I link the right ones on my spreadsheet... :)

>
>> Next Week
>> ---------
>> Singles
>> -------
>> Barring unforeseen OAOS entries, this must surely be The Saturdays
>>best chance of a #1.
>
>There's still time, Flo Rida!

Why him?

>And we can't entirely write off Timberlake just yet, as his video is
>expected during the week.

But the Sats are now 50% ahead...

>
>There's an expected one from 30 Seconds To Mars on Tuesday, so if the
>record company have the courage of their convictions and don't postpone
>the UK release until October or something that should be able to go T40
>or maybe T30.

But hardly threatening the top spot...

>The other possibility to consider is that Duke Dumond might be brought
>forward.

Who?

>
>> Albums
>> ------
>> Justin Timberlake looks a cast iron certainty for #1 next Sunday.
>
>Yes, and he might well get the first six-figure sale of 2013 now.

That would surprise me.

>
>> Others : Alex Day,
>
>Download only of course, and as it only costs �3:99 can that actually
>appear in the main chart?

Well, there isn't a budget *download* album chart...

[Chris Brown]

"Paul Hyett" <vidc...@invalid83261.co.uk> wrote in message

news:8Lxa$g+jVs...@blueyonder.co.uk...

> On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 at 22:37:19, Chris Brown <extrem...@yahoospam.com>
> wrote in uk.music.charts :
>
>>> Singles
>>> -------
>>> Justin Timberlake is still #1.
>>
>>He is, despite what's hardly his best material. In fact I don't even think
>>it's his best song in this week's chart.
>
> Just lucky timing - 3 weeks at #1 with what are relatively modest totals
> by today's standards...

True, although it was obviously going to be a hit anyway.

>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>> ---------------------
>>> Top 5 : Pink #3,
>>
>>Dull, but at least not very autotuned.
>
> Denied the #2 by One D's CR surge...

So far. And presumably if the 1D song had been held back to this week,
they'd have been at 1 and Timberlake at 2.

>>> Top 10 : Nicole S #6
>>
>>The aptly-titled 'Boomerang' topped the midweek charts on Tuesday and
>>Wednesday, but by end of the week it had already turned around and ends up
>>falling short of the Top 5. According to Gezza at Buzzjack, it's the first
>>single to manage this unenviable record since 'Silver Shorts' by the
>>Wedding Present, which ended up at 14 in 1992 but at least had the excuse
>>of being a limited 7" only release. This has tailed off for no better
>>reason than limited interest.
>
> Not to mention limited promo...

John Grant says hello.

>>> Top 20 : Olly Murs #12,
>>
>>A minor climb, not enough to assume a sales increase as yet. But it does
>>give me an excuse to mention how much it sounds like the theme from Thomas
>>The Tank Engine.
>
> Again...

Yes it sounds like it every time I hear it.
I also noticed today that there's a bit in the middle eight that sounds like
a car with the indicators on.

>>> Top 30 : The 1975 #21,
>>
>>A song that's certainly about a brown substance, but which one?
>
> I know which one the song most reminds me of... :p

So do I. With thanks to Barry Norman for the original version of that joke.

>>>Taylor Swift (22) #26
>>
>>A song that's actually worse than I expected. For once I can't blame Radio
>>2 for playlisting a random album track instead.
>
> She looks great in the video as always, though.

I didn't think people were buying it for the music. I presume this was
released because they thought it would make for a good video.

>>> Re-entries T40 : Christina Perri #27,
>>
>>Speaking of advertising, this uninteresting song gains from advertising of
>>the DVD of the final Twilight film, in which a version of this song
>>appears.
>
> At least no-one can accuse her of being a one-hit-wonder now.

No, definitely a two-hit wonder now.

>>>Imagine Dragons #36
>>
>>And continuing the commercial break, this song enjoys a third Top 40 run
>>without touching the Top 30 after heavy usage in trailers for a
>>forthcoming film.
>
> Oh, that's why...

Yep. Although I don't know if that's why it re-entered before.

>>> Maroon 5 #63,
>>
>>Still a lot lower than its airplay chart position. This is by far the
>>strongest argument for keeping airplay out of the main chart.
>
> I assume you don't mean *just* because it's Maroon 5? :)

Well, not entirely, but they certainly are an act who fairly consistently do
better on airplay than sales.

>>>Calvin/Ellie (INYL) #75
>>
>>A track that made the T200 on names when whichever album was released
>>first.
>
> Huh?

I couldn't remember whether it was his or her album that came out first. But
whichever it was people cherrypicked this track because the other person was
on it.

>>> Re-entries T75 : David G #47,
>>
>>I assume at this point that it's a deliberate joke that you don't identify
>>which Guetta song is which but do for almost everyone else.
>
> Well, the obvious abbreviation for this song would inevitably lead to
> awful puns... :)

Unless you just left it at T?
I suppose if you said it was Guetta and Sia that would narrow it down to
two.

>>>OD (LT) #53,
>>
>>Seems to have been the main beneficiary - other than the current single of
>>course - from their Comic Relief promotion. Steve Wright seems to have
>>been playing it every day for no apparent reason.
>
> Other than - he's an idiot?

Are you implying he wasn't one in previous weeks?

>>> Kendrick Lamar #59,
>>
>>New peak?
>>
> Yes.

Still not that interesting unfortunately.

>>> Albums
>>> ------
>>> David Bowie claims his 9th #1 album, no less than 20 years after his
>>> last!
>>
>>A pedant writes: it's a couple of weeks less than 20 years since the chart
>>dated 17th April 1993, when Black Tie White Noise deposed Suede's first
>>album from the top. Nonetheless, it effectively doubles his span of Number
>>One albums since Aladdin Sane kept the Beatles off Number One in May 1973.
>
> When was Ziggy Stardust, then?

1972, but although it's his biggest-selling album (and longest-charting if
you combine all versions) it never did enough in any one week to top the
chart.

>>The label have succeeded in releasing the deluxe CD with three additional
>>tracks which I might download in the future, although the album seems long
>>enough as it is.
>
> Isn't that the point of 'extended versions'. :p

To make the album overlong? Well, I suppose in a sense it is.
Justin Timberlake's album needs no such assistance though.

>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>> ---------------------
>>> Top 10 : Hurts #9
>>
>>Second album from the British 80s revival duo whose debut album sold
>>better in central and eastern Europe than over here, which might be why
>>this one's called Exile.
>
> Grin.

That is a serious guess, though I haven't checked.

>>> Top 20 : John Grant #16,
>>
>>The former lead singer of The Czars
>
> Ah.

To be fair, they were probably more obscure than he is as a solo artist.

>>>Tim McGraw #43,
>>
>>Making his UK album chart debut
>
> Seriously?

Well, I'm sure there are some silly tracks...
AFAICT this is his frst Top 75 album here, although he did make the Top 200
in 1999 if you count that. He's hardly a mainstream figure in the UK. In
fact, this might not have gone T75 had it been released in the same week it
came out in America.

>>>Abba #67,
>>
>>This is the album you'd expect. A strong seller at any time, they've
>>gained a little extra profile this week from Agnetha's new solo material.
>
> As if anyone outside Sweden even knew about it...

I know about it! Although I have been to Denmark.

>>> Oddly, #75 seems to have been omitted from the OCC website...
>>
>>It did eventually update at about 9, to show "Best Of" by David Bowie
>>climbing from 75. Confusingly, Best Of Bowie was - and still is -
>>appearing as a new entry at 97.
>
> I'd better make sure I link the right ones on my spreadsheet... :)

If we ever work out what the right one is.

BTW, we both seem to have missed or forgotten the re-entry by Blue.

>>> Next Week
>>> ---------
>>> Singles
>>> -------
>>> Barring unforeseen OAOS entries, this must surely be The Saturdays best
>>> chance of a #1.
>>
>>There's still time, Flo Rida!
>
> Why him?

He has form in this area.

>>And we can't entirely write off Timberlake just yet, as his video is
>>expected during the week.
>
> But the Sats are now 50% ahead...

...But there's absolutely no way they'll stay that far ahead all week
anyway.

>>There's an expected one from 30 Seconds To Mars on Tuesday, so if the
>>record company have the courage of their convictions and don't postpone
>>the UK release until October or something that should be able to go T40 or
>>maybe T30.
>
> But hardly threatening the top spot...

Who said it would?

>>The other possibility to consider is that Duke Dumond might be brought
>>forward.
>
> Who?

I don't really know either, but there's a fake version in the Top 100, there
must be some demand for the song.

>>> Albums
>>> ------
>>> Justin Timberlake looks a cast iron certainty for #1 next Sunday.
>>
>>Yes, and he might well get the first six-figure sale of 2013 now.
>
> That would surprise me.

Why?

>>> Others : Alex Day,
>>
>>Download only of course, and as it only costs £3:99 can that actually
>>appear in the main chart?
>
> Well, there isn't a budget *download* album chart...

I know that. What I don't know is whether a digital album at that price
point would be allowed into the main chart or excluded altogether.

Chris

[Paul Hyett]

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 at 21:35:50, Chris Brown

<extrem...@yahoospam.com> wrote in uk.music.charts :
>>
>>>> Singles
>>>> -------
>>>> Justin Timberlake is still #1.
>>>
>>>He is, despite what's hardly his best material. In fact I don't even think
>>>it's his best song in this week's chart.
>>
>> Just lucky timing - 3 weeks at #1 with what are relatively modest totals
>> by today's standards...
>
>True, although it was obviously going to be a hit anyway.

Without the Brits, it would never have been #1 though - remember it
jumped 22 places straight after...

>
>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>> ---------------------
>>>> Top 5 : Pink #3,
>>>
>>>Dull, but at least not very autotuned.
>>
>> Denied the #2 by One D's CR surge...
>
>So far. And presumably if the 1D song had been held back to this week,
>they'd have been at 1 and Timberlake at 2.

It was a strange decision to release it weeks early.

>
>>>> Top 10 : Nicole S #6
>>>

>>>This has tailed off for no better
>>>reason than limited interest.
>>
>> Not to mention limited promo...
>
>John Grant says hello.

Huh?

>
>>>> Re-entries T40 : Christina Perri #27,
>>>
>>>Speaking of advertising, this uninteresting song gains from advertising of
>>>the DVD of the final Twilight film, in which a version of this song
>>>appears.
>>
>> At least no-one can accuse her of being a one-hit-wonder now.
>
>No, definitely a two-hit wonder now.

I'm sure she'll add to that with her next album, though.

>
>>>>Calvin/Ellie (INYL) #75
>>>
>>>A track that made the T200 on names when whichever album was released
>>>first.
>>
>> Huh?
>
>I couldn't remember whether it was his or her album that came out first. But
>whichever it was people cherrypicked this track because the other person was
>on it.

It was just the odd way you phrased it...

>
>
>>>> Albums
>>>> ------
>>>> David Bowie claims his 9th #1 album, no less than 20 years after his
>>>> last!
>>>
>>>A pedant writes: it's a couple of weeks less than 20 years since the chart
>>>dated 17th April 1993, when Black Tie White Noise deposed Suede's first
>>>album from the top. Nonetheless, it effectively doubles his span of Number
>>>One albums since Aladdin Sane kept the Beatles off Number One in May 1973.
>>
>> When was Ziggy Stardust, then?
>
>1972, but although it's his biggest-selling album (and longest-charting if
>you combine all versions) it never did enough in any one week to top the
>chart.

That's a surprise!

>
>>>The label have succeeded in releasing the deluxe CD with three additional
>>>tracks which I might download in the future, although the album seems long
>>>enough as it is.
>>
>> Isn't that the point of 'extended versions'. :p
>
>To make the album overlong? Well, I suppose in a sense it is.
>Justin Timberlake's album needs no such assistance though.

You mean it'd be overlong with just *one* track? :p

>
>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>> ---------------------
>

>>>>Tim McGraw #43,
>>>
>>>Making his UK album chart debut
>>
>> Seriously?
>
>Well, I'm sure there are some silly tracks...
>AFAICT this is his frst Top 75 album here, although he did make the Top 200
>in 1999 if you count that. He's hardly a mainstream figure in the UK.
>In fact, this might not have gone T75 had it been released in the same
>week it came out in America.

Why not?

>
>>>> Next Week
>>>> ---------
>>>> Singles
>>>> -------
>>>> Barring unforeseen OAOS entries, this must surely be The Saturdays best
>>>> chance of a #1.
>>>
>>>There's still time, Flo Rida!
>>
>> Why him?
>
>He has form in this area.

But nothing new to release, AFAIK?

>
>>>And we can't entirely write off Timberlake just yet, as his video is
>>>expected during the week.
>>
>> But the Sats are now 50% ahead...
>
>...But there's absolutely no way they'll stay that far ahead all week
>anyway.

No, but they won't need to, especially as the first half of the week is
the part with biggest sales (generally I mean, not just for the Sats).

>
>>>There's an expected one from 30 Seconds To Mars on Tuesday, so if the
>>>record company have the courage of their convictions and don't postpone
>>>the UK release until October or something that should be able to go T40 or
>>>maybe T30.
>>
>> But hardly threatening the top spot...
>
>Who said it would?

Well, you mentioned it directly after my comment about possible Sats
challengers...

>
>>>> Albums
>>>> ------
>>>> Justin Timberlake looks a cast iron certainty for #1 next Sunday.
>>>
>>>Yes, and he might well get the first six-figure sale of 2013 now.
>>
>> That would surprise me.
>
>Why?

Because I've heard his music? :p

>
>>>> Others : Alex Day,
>>>
>>>Download only of course, and as it only costs �3:99 can that actually
>>>appear in the main chart?
>>
>> Well, there isn't a budget *download* album chart...
>
>I know that. What I don't know is whether a digital album at that price
>point would be allowed into the main chart or excluded altogether.

We should find out in a week's time...

[Chris Brown]

"Paul Hyett" <vidc...@invalid83261.co.uk> wrote in message

news:B6kFjhM6...@blueyonder.co.uk...

> On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 at 21:35:50, Chris Brown <extrem...@yahoospam.com>
> wrote in uk.music.charts :
>>>
>>>>> Singles
>>>>> -------
>>>>> Justin Timberlake is still #1.
>>>>
>>>>He is, despite what's hardly his best material. In fact I don't even
>>>>think
>>>>it's his best song in this week's chart.
>>>
>>> Just lucky timing - 3 weeks at #1 with what are relatively modest totals
>>> by today's standards...
>>
>>True, although it was obviously going to be a hit anyway.
>
> Without the Brits, it would never have been #1 though - remember it jumped
> 22 places straight after...

That may will be right, although seeing how quiet it's been at the top in
the last couple of weeks I wouldn't have put it past him to sneak one week
at the top.
Didn't allowing instant grat sales to appear in the chart also contribute to
this boost?

>>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>>> ---------------------
>>>>> Top 5 : Pink #3,
>>>>
>>>>Dull, but at least not very autotuned.
>>>
>>> Denied the #2 by One D's CR surge...
>>
>>So far. And presumably if the 1D song had been held back to this week,
>>they'd have been at 1 and Timberlake at 2.
>
> It was a strange decision to release it weeks early.

Ordinarily it would have been, but I suppose the fact of them being a
globally successful act in the download era made an OAOS release more
likely.

>>>>> Top 10 : Nicole S #6
>>>>
>>>>This has tailed off for no better
>>>>reason than limited interest.
>>>
>>> Not to mention limited promo...
>>
>>John Grant says hello.
>
> Huh?

Exactly!

To be more explicit, he's somebody who couldn't dream of the sort of
opportunities to wander onto prime time TV shows that she seems to be
gifted.

>>>>> Re-entries T40 : Christina Perri #27,
>>>>
>>>>Speaking of advertising, this uninteresting song gains from advertising
>>>>of
>>>>the DVD of the final Twilight film, in which a version of this song
>>>>appears.
>>>
>>> At least no-one can accuse her of being a one-hit-wonder now.
>>
>>No, definitely a two-hit wonder now.
>
> I'm sure she'll add to that with her next album, though.

Depends when that is.

>>>>>Calvin/Ellie (INYL) #75
>>>>
>>>>A track that made the T200 on names when whichever album was released
>>>>first.
>>>
>>> Huh?
>>
>>I couldn't remember whether it was his or her album that came out first.
>>But
>>whichever it was people cherrypicked this track because the other person
>>was
>>on it.
>
> It was just the odd way you phrased it...

I know, it was the best I could think of at the time.

>>>>> Albums
>>>>> ------
>>>>> David Bowie claims his 9th #1 album, no less than 20 years after his
>>>>> last!
>>>>
>>>>A pedant writes: it's a couple of weeks less than 20 years since the
>>>>chart
>>>>dated 17th April 1993, when Black Tie White Noise deposed Suede's first
>>>>album from the top. Nonetheless, it effectively doubles his span of
>>>>Number
>>>>One albums since Aladdin Sane kept the Beatles off Number One in May
>>>>1973.
>>>
>>> When was Ziggy Stardust, then?
>>
>>1972, but although it's his biggest-selling album (and longest-charting if
>>you combine all versions) it never did enough in any one week to top the
>>chart.
>
> That's a surprise!

Hardly unique, though. At least Aladdin Sane is a popular album as well.

>>>>The label have succeeded in releasing the deluxe CD with three
>>>>additional
>>>>tracks which I might download in the future, although the album seems
>>>>long
>>>>enough as it is.
>>>
>>> Isn't that the point of 'extended versions'. :p
>>
>>To make the album overlong? Well, I suppose in a sense it is.
>>Justin Timberlake's album needs no such assistance though.
>
> You mean it'd be overlong with just *one* track? :p

Given that the average length of a track on it is seven minutes, yes.

>>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>>> ---------------------
>>
>>>>>Tim McGraw #43,
>>>>
>>>>Making his UK album chart debut
>>>
>>> Seriously?
>>
>>Well, I'm sure there are some silly tracks...
>>AFAICT this is his frst Top 75 album here, although he did make the Top
>>200
>>in 1999 if you count that. He's hardly a mainstream figure in the UK. In
>>fact, this might not have gone T75 had it been released in the same week
>>it came out in America.
>
> Why not?

Partly because of the promotional boost it got from coinciding with his UK
visit, partly because the US release was in early February, and it would
have been buried by the Valentine's rush here then.

>>>>> Next Week
>>>>> ---------
>>>>> Singles
>>>>> -------
>>>>> Barring unforeseen OAOS entries, this must surely be The Saturdays
>>>>> best
>>>>> chance of a #1.
>>>>
>>>>There's still time, Flo Rida!
>>>
>>> Why him?
>>
>>He has form in this area.
>
> But nothing new to release, AFAIK?

I'm sure he could borrow some dance track and mumble some cliched lyrics
over it at pretty short notice. :-)
I actually think somebody did put a new Flo video on Buzzjack the other day.

>>>>And we can't entirely write off Timberlake just yet, as his video is
>>>>expected during the week.
>>>
>>> But the Sats are now 50% ahead...
>>
>>...But there's absolutely no way they'll stay that far ahead all week
>>anyway.
>
> No, but they won't need to, especially as the first half of the week is
> the part with biggest sales (generally I mean, not just for the Sats).

True.

>>>>There's an expected one from 30 Seconds To Mars on Tuesday, so if the
>>>>record company have the courage of their convictions and don't postpone
>>>>the UK release until October or something that should be able to go T40
>>>>or
>>>>maybe T30.
>>>
>>> But hardly threatening the top spot...
>>
>>Who said it would?
>
> Well, you mentioned it directly after my comment about possible Sats
> challengers...

No I didn't, it's after your sentence " There may be unexpected OA/OS
releases, of course."

>>>>> Albums
>>>>> ------
>>>>> Justin Timberlake looks a cast iron certainty for #1 next Sunday.
>>>>
>>>>Yes, and he might well get the first six-figure sale of 2013 now.
>>>
>>> That would surprise me.
>>
>>Why?
>
> Because I've heard his music? :p

But somehow not heard anything from his two previous massively popular
albums?

>>>>> Others : Alex Day,
>>>>
>>>>Download only of course, and as it only costs £3:99 can that actually
>>>>appear in the main chart?
>>>
>>> Well, there isn't a budget *download* album chart...
>>
>>I know that. What I don't know is whether a digital album at that price
>>point would be allowed into the main chart or excluded altogether.
>
> We should find out in a week's time...

Or sooner if it's in the mids.

Chris

[Paul Hyett]

On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 at 21:28:11, Chris Brown

<extrem...@yahoospam.com> wrote in uk.music.charts :
>>>>
>>>>>> Singles
>>>>>> -------
>>>>>> Justin Timberlake is still #1.
>>

>> Without the Brits, it would never have been #1 though - remember it
>>jumped 22 places straight after...
>
>That may will be right, although seeing how quiet it's been at the top
>in the last couple of weeks I wouldn't have put it past him to sneak
>one week at the top.
>Didn't allowing instant grat sales to appear in the chart also
>contribute to this boost?

I doubt that made anything more than a very minor contribution.

>>>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>>>> ---------------------
>

>>>>>> Top 10 : Nicole S #6
>>>>>
>>>>>This has tailed off for no better
>>>>>reason than limited interest.
>>>>
>>>> Not to mention limited promo...
>>>
>>>John Grant says hello.
>>
>> Huh?
>
>Exactly!
>
>To be more explicit, he's somebody who couldn't dream of the sort of
>opportunities to wander onto prime time TV shows that she seems to be
>gifted.

Because she looks better in a two-piece than he would? :p

>
>>>>>> Re-entries T40 : Christina Perri #27,
>>>>>
>>>>>Speaking of advertising, this uninteresting song gains from
>>>>>advertising of
>>>>>the DVD of the final Twilight film, in which a version of this song
>>>>>appears.
>>>>
>>>> At least no-one can accuse her of being a one-hit-wonder now.
>>>
>>>No, definitely a two-hit wonder now.
>>
>> I'm sure she'll add to that with her next album, though.
>
>Depends when that is.

No news of a forthcoming album yet, so presumably 2014 at the
earliest...

>
>>>>>>Calvin/Ellie (INYL) #75
>>>>>
>>>>>A track that made the T200 on names when whichever album was released
>>>>>first.
>>>>
>>>> Huh?
>>>
>>>I couldn't remember whether it was his or her album that came out
>>>first. But
>>>whichever it was people cherrypicked this track because the other
>>>person was
>>>on it.
>>
>> It was just the odd way you phrased it...
>
>I know, it was the best I could think of at the time.

A comma or two might have helped. :)
>
>>>>>> Albums
>>>>>> ------

>>>>>The label have succeeded in releasing the deluxe CD with three
>>>>>additional
>>>>>tracks which I might download in the future, although the album
>>>>>seems long
>>>>>enough as it is.
>>>>
>>>> Isn't that the point of 'extended versions'. :p
>>>
>>>To make the album overlong? Well, I suppose in a sense it is.
>>>Justin Timberlake's album needs no such assistance though.
>>
>> You mean it'd be overlong with just *one* track? :p
>
>Given that the average length of a track on it is seven minutes, yes.

Thought from my pov, it would still apply if they were 30 seconds
long... :p

>
>>>>>> Next Week
>>>>>> ---------
>>>>>> Singles
>>>>>> -------
>

>>>>>There's an expected one from 30 Seconds To Mars on Tuesday, so if the
>>>>>record company have the courage of their convictions and don't postpone
>>>>>the UK release until October or something that should be able to go
>>>>>T40 or
>>>>>maybe T30.
>>>>
>>>> But hardly threatening the top spot...
>>>
>>>Who said it would?
>>
>> Well, you mentioned it directly after my comment about possible Sats
>>challengers...
>
>No I didn't, it's after your sentence " There may be unexpected OA/OS
>releases, of course."

I must've misinterpreted it, then.

>
>
>>>>>> Albums
>>>>>> ------
>>>>>> Justin Timberlake looks a cast iron certainty for #1 next Sunday.
>>>>>
>>>>>Yes, and he might well get the first six-figure sale of 2013 now.
>>>>
>>>> That would surprise me.
>>>
>>>Why?
>>
>> Because I've heard his music? :p
>
>But somehow not heard anything from his two previous massively popular
>albums?

Which were *how long* ago?

Whenever I mention Dido, you seem to think absence is a big deal...

[Chris Brown]

"Paul Hyett" <vidc...@invalid83261.co.uk> wrote in message

news:b$MTizEbW...@blueyonder.co.uk...

> On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 at 21:28:11, Chris Brown <extrem...@yahoospam.com>
> wrote in uk.music.charts :
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Singles
>>>>>>> -------
>>>>>>> Justin Timberlake is still #1.
>>>
>>> Without the Brits, it would never have been #1 though - remember it
>>> jumped 22 places straight after...
>>
>>That may will be right, although seeing how quiet it's been at the top in
>>the last couple of weeks I wouldn't have put it past him to sneak one week
>>at the top.
>>Didn't allowing instant grat sales to appear in the chart also contribute
>>to this boost?
>
> I doubt that made anything more than a very minor contribution.

We'll never know though. I presume allowing the sales to count was partly a
way to stop us finding out.

>>>>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>>>>> ---------------------
>>
>>>>>>> Top 10 : Nicole S #6
>>>>>>
>>>>>>This has tailed off for no better
>>>>>>reason than limited interest.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not to mention limited promo...
>>>>
>>>>John Grant says hello.
>>>
>>> Huh?
>>
>>Exactly!
>>
>>To be more explicit, he's somebody who couldn't dream of the sort of
>>opportunities to wander onto prime time TV shows that she seems to be
>>gifted.
>
> Because she looks better in a two-piece than he would? :p

Depends what they're two pieces of, I suppose.

>>>>>>> Re-entries T40 : Christina Perri #27,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Speaking of advertising, this uninteresting song gains from
>>>>>>advertising of
>>>>>>the DVD of the final Twilight film, in which a version of this song
>>>>>>appears.
>>>>>
>>>>> At least no-one can accuse her of being a one-hit-wonder now.
>>>>
>>>>No, definitely a two-hit wonder now.
>>>
>>> I'm sure she'll add to that with her next album, though.
>>
>>Depends when that is.
>
> No news of a forthcoming album yet, so presumably 2014 at the earliest...

If she adds this as a bonus track and it recharts again, that won't count,
OK?

>>>>>>> Albums
>>>>>>> ------
>>>>>>The label have succeeded in releasing the deluxe CD with three
>>>>>>additional
>>>>>>tracks which I might download in the future, although the album seems
>>>>>>long
>>>>>>enough as it is.
>>>>>
>>>>> Isn't that the point of 'extended versions'. :p
>>>>
>>>>To make the album overlong? Well, I suppose in a sense it is.
>>>>Justin Timberlake's album needs no such assistance though.
>>>
>>> You mean it'd be overlong with just *one* track? :p
>>
>>Given that the average length of a track on it is seven minutes, yes.
>
> Thought from my pov, it would still apply if they were 30 seconds long...
> :p

Even if the vocal hadn't come in?

>>>>>>> Next Week

>>>>>>> Albums
>>>>>>> ------
>>>>>>> Justin Timberlake looks a cast iron certainty for #1 next Sunday.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Yes, and he might well get the first six-figure sale of 2013 now.
>>>>>
>>>>> That would surprise me.
>>>>
>>>>Why?
>>>
>>> Because I've heard his music? :p
>>
>>But somehow not heard anything from his two previous massively popular
>>albums?
>
> Which were *how long* ago?

10 and 6 years ago.

> Whenever I mention Dido, you seem to think absence is a big deal...

I do, but that's a totally different argument.
I actually think it's interesting how he's able to keep his career going
between albums. I think part of the difference is that he's remained more
visible than most people.

Chris

[Paul Hyett]

On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 at 22:43:07, Chris Brown

<extrem...@yahoospam.com> wrote in uk.music.charts :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Singles
>>>>>>>> -------

>>>>>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>>>>>> ---------------------
>>>
>>>>>>>> Top 10 : Nicole S #6
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>This has tailed off for no better
>>>>>>>reason than limited interest.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not to mention limited promo...
>>>>>
>>>>>John Grant says hello.
>>>>
>>>> Huh?
>>>
>>>Exactly!
>>>
>>>To be more explicit, he's somebody who couldn't dream of the sort of
>>>opportunities to wander onto prime time TV shows that she seems to be
>>>gifted.
>>
>> Because she looks better in a two-piece than he would? :p
>
>Depends what they're two pieces of, I suppose.

Almost anything would work, surely. :)

>

>>>>>>>> Next Week
>>>>>>>> Albums
>>>>>>>> ------
>>>>>>>> Justin Timberlake looks a cast iron certainty for #1 next Sunday.
>>>

>>>But somehow not heard anything from his two previous massively popular
>>>albums?
>>
>> Which were *how long* ago?
>
>10 and 6 years ago.
>
>> Whenever I mention Dido, you seem to think absence is a big deal...
>
>I do, but that's a totally different argument.

I don't see why?

>I actually think it's interesting how he's able to keep his career
>going between albums. I think part of the difference is that he's
>remained more visible than most people.

Surely 'more audible' would be more useful? :p

[Chris Brown]

"Paul Hyett" <vidc...@invalid83261.co.uk> wrote in message

news:DmPFUDVV...@blueyonder.co.uk...

> On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 at 22:43:07, Chris Brown <extrem...@yahoospam.com>
> wrote in uk.music.charts :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Singles
>>>>>>>>> -------
>>>>>>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>>>>>>> ---------------------
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Top 10 : Nicole S #6
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>This has tailed off for no better
>>>>>>>>reason than limited interest.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not to mention limited promo...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>John Grant says hello.
>>>>>
>>>>> Huh?
>>>>
>>>>Exactly!
>>>>
>>>>To be more explicit, he's somebody who couldn't dream of the sort of
>>>>opportunities to wander onto prime time TV shows that she seems to be
>>>>gifted.
>>>
>>> Because she looks better in a two-piece than he would? :p
>>
>>Depends what they're two pieces of, I suppose.
>
> Almost anything would work, surely. :)

Can't help imagining John Grant and Nicole Scherzinger clanking into a TV
studio wearing those old-fashioned diving suits. I'm pretty sure I'm the
only person ever to have had that thought.
Maybe I should try pitching it to Harry Hill.

I suppose the other difference is that Grant's music is swearier. And Nicole
S does seem to regard the UK market as a very big priority.

>>>>>>>>> Next Week
>>>>>>>>> Albums
>>>>>>>>> ------
>>>>>>>>> Justin Timberlake looks a cast iron certainty for #1 next Sunday.
>>>>
>>>>But somehow not heard anything from his two previous massively popular
>>>>albums?
>>>
>>> Which were *how long* ago?
>>
>>10 and 6 years ago.
>>
>>> Whenever I mention Dido, you seem to think absence is a big deal...
>>
>>I do, but that's a totally different argument.
>
> I don't see why?

They're mostly unrelated factors.

>>I actually think it's interesting how he's able to keep his career going
>>between albums. I think part of the difference is that he's remained more
>>visible than most people.
>
> Surely 'more audible' would be more useful? :p

With his voice? :P

I chose the word "visible" because in his case it's also significant that he
kept up his public profile with things other than music.

Chris

[Paul Hyett]

On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 at 22:43:45, Chris Brown

<extrem...@yahoospam.com> wrote in uk.music.charts :
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Singles
>>>>>>>>>> -------
>>>>>>>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------
>>>>>>>>>> Top 10 : Nicole S #6
>>>>

>>>> Because she looks better in a two-piece than he would? :p
>>>
>>>Depends what they're two pieces of, I suppose.
>>
>> Almost anything would work, surely. :)
>

>I suppose the other difference is that Grant's music is swearier. And
>Nicole S does seem to regard the UK market as a very big priority.

She does??

>
>>>>>>>>>> Next Week
>>>>>>>>>> Albums
>>>>>>>>>> ------
>>>>>>>>>> Justin Timberlake looks a cast iron certainty for #1 next Sunday.
>>>>>
>>>>>But somehow not heard anything from his two previous massively popular
>>>>>albums?
>>>>
>>>> Which were *how long* ago?
>>>
>>>10 and 6 years ago.
>>>
>>>> Whenever I mention Dido, you seem to think absence is a big deal...
>>>
>>>I do, but that's a totally different argument.
>>
>> I don't see why?
>
>They're mostly unrelated factors.

How can JT releasing albums far apart be unrelated to Dido releasing
albums far apart??

>
>>>I actually think it's interesting how he's able to keep his career going
>>>between albums. I think part of the difference is that he's remained more
>>>visible than most people.
>>
>> Surely 'more audible' would be more useful? :p
>
>With his voice? :P
>
>I chose the word "visible" because in his case it's also significant
>that he kept up his public profile with things other than music.
>

Such as?

[Chris Brown]

"Paul Hyett" <vidc...@invalid83261.co.uk> wrote in message

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> On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 at 22:43:45, Chris Brown <extrem...@yahoospam.com>
> wrote in uk.music.charts :
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Singles
>>>>>>>>>>> -------
>>>>>>>>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------
>>>>>>>>>>> Top 10 : Nicole S #6
>>>>>
>>>>> Because she looks better in a two-piece than he would? :p
>>>>
>>>>Depends what they're two pieces of, I suppose.
>>>
>>> Almost anything would work, surely. :)
>>
>>I suppose the other difference is that Grant's music is swearier. And
>>Nicole S does seem to regard the UK market as a very big priority.
>
> She does??

Yes. She spends the last quarter of the year appearing on a popular TV show,
remember? And even when she releases a single in the spring she seems to do
the rounds of the studios.
I think there may be some connection between this promotion and the fact
that she's had more hits here than in her homeland.

>>>>>>>>>>> Next Week
>>>>>>>>>>> Albums
>>>>>>>>>>> ------
>>>>>>>>>>> Justin Timberlake looks a cast iron certainty for #1 next
>>>>>>>>>>> Sunday.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>But somehow not heard anything from his two previous massively popular
>>>>>>albums?
>>>>>
>>>>> Which were *how long* ago?
>>>>
>>>>10 and 6 years ago.
>>>>
>>>>> Whenever I mention Dido, you seem to think absence is a big deal...
>>>>
>>>>I do, but that's a totally different argument.
>>>
>>> I don't see why?
>>
>>They're mostly unrelated factors.
>
> How can JT releasing albums far apart be unrelated to Dido releasing
> albums far apart??

That's not what you said, though, you refered to the quality of his music.

>>>>I actually think it's interesting how he's able to keep his career going
>>>>between albums. I think part of the difference is that he's remained
>>>>more
>>>>visible than most people.
>>>
>>> Surely 'more audible' would be more useful? :p
>>
>>With his voice? :P
>>
>>I chose the word "visible" because in his case it's also significant that
>>he kept up his public profile with things other than music.
>>
> Such as?

Mostly his acting career, and things like Saturday Night Live (though that's
only relevant to the US I suppose), although I think it's fair to say he
lives more of a celebrity lifestyle than Dido does anyway. One might compare
and contrast the media coverage of their respective weddings, for example.
And one might even wonder whether Timberlake made a conscious choice to tie
the release in with his marriage.

Chris

[Paul Hyett]

On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 at 20:22:51, Chris Brown

<extrem...@yahoospam.com> wrote in uk.music.charts :
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Singles
>>>>>>>>>>>> -------
>>>>>>>>>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>> Top 10 : Nicole S #6
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Because she looks better in a two-piece than he would? :p
>>>>>
>>>>>Depends what they're two pieces of, I suppose.
>>>>
>>>> Almost anything would work, surely. :)
>>>
>>>I suppose the other difference is that Grant's music is swearier. And
>>>Nicole S does seem to regard the UK market as a very big priority.
>>
>> She does??
>
>Yes. She spends the last quarter of the year appearing on a popular TV
>show, remember? And even when she releases a single in the spring she
>seems to do the rounds of the studios.
>I think there may be some connection between this promotion and the
>fact that she's had more hits here than in her homeland.

Unfortunately UK radio seems uninterested in her.

>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Next Week
>>>>>>>>>>>> Albums
>>>>>>>>>>>> ------
>>>>>>>>>>>> Justin Timberlake looks a cast iron certainty for #1 next
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sunday.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>But somehow not heard anything from his two previous massively popular
>>>>>>>albums?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Which were *how long* ago?
>>>>>
>>>>>10 and 6 years ago.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Whenever I mention Dido, you seem to think absence is a big deal...
>>>>>
>>>>>I do, but that's a totally different argument.
>>>>
>>>> I don't see why?
>>>
>>>They're mostly unrelated factors.
>>
>> How can JT releasing albums far apart be unrelated to Dido releasing
>> albums far apart??
>
>That's not what you said, though, you refered to the quality of his music.

No I didn't (well, not *here* anyway). :p

>>>
>>>I chose the word "visible" because in his case it's also significant that
>>>he kept up his public profile with things other than music.
>>>
>> Such as?
>
>Mostly his acting career

In what? It's the first I've heard of it?

>, and things like Saturday Night Live (though that's only relevant to
>the US I suppose), although I think it's fair to say he lives more of a
>celebrity lifestyle than Dido does anyway.

No argument there.

[Chris Brown]

"Paul Hyett" <vidc...@invalid83261.co.uk> wrote in message

news:tQuuJLIW...@blueyonder.co.uk...

> On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 at 20:22:51, Chris Brown <extrem...@yahoospam.com>
> wrote in uk.music.charts :
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Singles
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -------
>>>>>>>>>>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Top 10 : Nicole S #6
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Because she looks better in a two-piece than he would? :p
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Depends what they're two pieces of, I suppose.
>>>>>
>>>>> Almost anything would work, surely. :)
>>>>
>>>>I suppose the other difference is that Grant's music is swearier. And
>>>>Nicole S does seem to regard the UK market as a very big priority.
>>>
>>> She does??
>>
>>Yes. She spends the last quarter of the year appearing on a popular TV
>>show, remember? And even when she releases a single in the spring she
>>seems to do the rounds of the studios.
>>I think there may be some connection between this promotion and the fact
>>that she's had more hits here than in her homeland.
>
> Unfortunately UK radio seems uninterested in her.

John Grant says "hello" again!
You might get as far as arguing that it's not sycophantic to her, so this
useless song hasn't had massive airplay just on name alone, though it's
certainly not gone without it entirely. But you can't say that 'Don't Hold
Your Breath' was ignored. Or 'Jai Ho!' if you count that. And given that she
does less well in the airplay-driven US chart, Britain doesn't seem to be
exception on that score.
Anyway, what's "unfortunate" about her generic hack-work not getting played
on the radio?

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Next Week
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Albums
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Justin Timberlake looks a cast iron certainty for #1 next
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sunday.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>But somehow not heard anything from his two previous massively
>>>>>>>>popular
>>>>>>>>albums?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Which were *how long* ago?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>10 and 6 years ago.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Whenever I mention Dido, you seem to think absence is a big deal...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I do, but that's a totally different argument.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't see why?
>>>>
>>>>They're mostly unrelated factors.
>>>
>>> How can JT releasing albums far apart be unrelated to Dido releasing
>>> albums far apart??
>>
>>That's not what you said, though, you refered to the quality of his music.
>
> No I didn't (well, not *here* anyway). :p

You did, when I suggested that the JT album might clear 100k.

>>>>I chose the word "visible" because in his case it's also significant
>>>>that
>>>>he kept up his public profile with things other than music.
>>>>
>>> Such as?
>>
>>Mostly his acting career
>
> In what? It's the first I've heard of it?

In the same films I mentioned last time the subject cropped up?
Haven't you seen the side of a bus in the last four years?

>>, and things like Saturday Night Live (though that's only relevant to the
>>US I suppose), although I think it's fair to say he lives more of a
>>celebrity lifestyle than Dido does anyway.
>
> No argument there.

Did you even know Dido was married?

Chris

[Paul Hyett]

On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 at 13:53:14, Chris Brown

<extrem...@yahoospam.com> wrote in uk.music.charts :
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Singles
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Top 10 : Nicole S #6
>>

>> Unfortunately UK radio seems uninterested in her.
>

>You might get as far as arguing that it's not sycophantic to her, so
>this useless song hasn't had massive airplay just on name alone, though
>it's certainly not gone without it entirely. But you can't say that
>'Don't Hold Your Breath' was ignored. Or 'Jai Ho!' if you count that.
>And given that she does less well in the airplay-driven US chart,
>Britain doesn't seem to be exception on that score.

>Anyway, what's "unfortunate" about her generic hack-work not getting
>played on the radio?

They play many far worse songs.

>
>>
>> In what? It's the first I've heard of it?
>
>In the same films I mentioned last time the subject cropped up?
>Haven't you seen the side of a bus in the last four years?

I'm usually on the *inside* of them. :)

>
>>>, and things like Saturday Night Live (though that's only relevant to the
>>>US I suppose), although I think it's fair to say he lives more of a
>>>celebrity lifestyle than Dido does anyway.
>>
>> No argument there.
>
>Did you even know Dido was married?

Yes - did you know she also has a kid?

[Chris Brown]

"Paul Hyett" <vidc...@invalid83261.co.uk> wrote in message

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> On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 at 13:53:14, Chris Brown <extrem...@yahoospam.com>
> wrote in uk.music.charts :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Singles
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Top 10 : Nicole S #6
>>>
>>> Unfortunately UK radio seems uninterested in her.
>>
>>You might get as far as arguing that it's not sycophantic to her, so this
>>useless song hasn't had massive airplay just on name alone, though it's
>>certainly not gone without it entirely. But you can't say that 'Don't Hold
>>Your Breath' was ignored. Or 'Jai Ho!' if you count that. And given that
>>she does less well in the airplay-driven US chart, Britain doesn't seem to
>>be exception on that score.
>
>>Anyway, what's "unfortunate" about her generic hack-work not getting
>>played on the radio?
>
> They play many far worse songs.

No reason to add to them though.

>>> In what? It's the first I've heard of it?
>>
>>In the same films I mentioned last time the subject cropped up?
>>Haven't you seen the side of a bus in the last four years?
>
> I'm usually on the *inside* of them. :)

Impressive that you can do that without seeing the outside of them first.

>>>>, and things like Saturday Night Live (though that's only relevant to
>>>>the
>>>>US I suppose), although I think it's fair to say he lives more of a
>>>>celebrity lifestyle than Dido does anyway.
>>>
>>> No argument there.
>>
>>Did you even know Dido was married?
>
> Yes - did you know she also has a kid?

Yes, that's why I mentioned a couple of weeks ago that she'd postponed the
release of the album for maternity leave. However, I didn't know about
either of those things until this year, which is sort of my point. For the
same - or I should say equivalent - reason, I can never really agree with
people who say Emeli Sand� got too much publicity last year.

Chris

[Paul Hyett]

On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 at 22:58:15, Chris Brown

<extrem...@yahoospam.com> wrote in uk.music.charts :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Singles
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Top 10 : Nicole S #6
>>

>>>Anyway, what's "unfortunate" about her generic hack-work not getting
>>>played on the radio?
>>
>> They play many far worse songs.
>
>No reason to add to them though.

You're on good cynical form today. :)

>
>>>> In what? It's the first I've heard of it?
>>>
>>>In the same films I mentioned last time the subject cropped up?
>>>Haven't you seen the side of a bus in the last four years?
>>
>> I'm usually on the *inside* of them. :)
>
>Impressive that you can do that without seeing the outside of them first.

I check the number to make sure it's the right route - I couldn't give a
crap about any advertising.

[Chris Brown]

"Paul Hyett" <vidc...@invalid83261.co.uk> wrote in message

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> On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 at 22:58:15, Chris Brown <extrem...@yahoospam.com>
> wrote in uk.music.charts :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Singles
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Top 10 : Nicole S #6
>>>
>>>>Anyway, what's "unfortunate" about her generic hack-work not getting
>>>>played on the radio?
>>>
>>> They play many far worse songs.
>>
>>No reason to add to them though.
>
> You're on good cynical form today. :)

In fairness, there's a lot of music you or I think awful that other people
clearly do like and I'd rather airtime went to that sort of thing than to
complete wastes of space.

>>>>> In what? It's the first I've heard of it?
>>>>
>>>>In the same films I mentioned last time the subject cropped up?
>>>>Haven't you seen the side of a bus in the last four years?
>>>
>>> I'm usually on the *inside* of them. :)
>>
>>Impressive that you can do that without seeing the outside of them first.
>
> I check the number to make sure it's the right route - I couldn't give a
> crap about any advertising.

That's what everyone thinks though.

Chris

[Paul Hyett]

On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 at 22:20:38, Chris Brown

<extrem...@yahoospam.com> wrote in uk.music.charts :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Singles
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Top 10 : Nicole S #6
>>>>
>>>>>Anyway, what's "unfortunate" about her generic hack-work not getting
>>>>>played on the radio?
>>>>
>>>> They play many far worse songs.
>>>
>>>No reason to add to them though.
>>
>> You're on good cynical form today. :)
>
>In fairness, there's a lot of music you or I think awful that other
>people clearly do like and I'd rather airtime went to that sort of
>thing than to complete wastes of space.

Of course you realise Nicole S's fans would just turn that line of
reasoning back on you... :p

[Chris Brown]

"Paul Hyett" <vidc...@invalid83261.co.uk> wrote in message

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If she actually has any, of course.

Chris

[Paul Hyett]

On Tue, 26 Mar 2013 at 22:45:36, Chris Brown

<extrem...@yahoospam.com> wrote in uk.music.charts :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Singles
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Top 10 : Nicole S #6
>>>

>>>In fairness, there's a lot of music you or I think awful that other people
>>>clearly do like and I'd rather airtime went to that sort of thing than to
>>>complete wastes of space.
>>
>> Of course you realise Nicole S's fans would just turn that line of
>> reasoning back on you... :p
>
>If she actually has any, of course.

Based on sales of Boomerang, she has at least 70k of them...