Chart Commentary 13/4/13

[Paul Hyett]

Singles
-------
As expected, but disappointingly from my POV, Duke Dumont goes to #1.

New Entries/New Peaks
---------------------
Top 5 :
Top 10 : Nelly #7, Pitbull ft Christina #8, Michael Buble #10
Top 20 : Imagine Dragons (Rad) #18, Calvin/Ellie #19
Top 30 : Chris Brown #29
Top 40 : Haim (Fall) #30, Imagine Dragons (OTOTW) #34, Iggy Azealia #36,
Macklemore etc (CHU) #38, Imagine Dragons (IT) #40

Re-entries T40 : none

New Entries outside the top 40 (plus new peaks) : Tom Odell (HM) #44,
AlunaGeorge #51, Minaj/Wayne (HS) #65, Biffy Clyro (Bib) #70, Imagine
Dragons (Dem) #75

Re-entries T75 : OD (LT) #67, Ray LaMontagne (Tr) #71


Albums
------
Justin Timberlake remains #1.

New Entries/New Peaks
---------------------
Top 5 : Imagine Dragons #2, Bring Me The Horizon #3
Top 10 :
Top 20 : Killswitch Engage #15, Tyler The Creator #17, British Sea Power
#19

New entries/new peaks outside the top 20 : Wiley #26, Jimi Hendrix #30,
Flaming Lips #42, New Kids On The Block #47, Alkaline Trio #51, Leisure
Society #71

Re-entries : Meat Loaf (BOOH) #9 (equalling its all-time peak!), Billy
Joel #65, Milos K #68


Next Week
---------
Singles
-------
If the new Beyonce single appears, she will surely take over at #1.

Not much else in the way of new releases, though.

Top 5 : Will.I.Am/Bieber
Top 10 :
Top 20 : Nina Nesbitt
Top 30 : Angel
Top 40 :

There may be OA/OS releases, of course.

Albums
------
I expect Paramore to claim their 2nd #1 album, especially as the
competition from other new releases isn't strong.

Top 5 :
Top 10 : James Blake,
Top 20 : Counting Crows, OMD

Others : Bob Marley, Sarah Brightman, Stone Sour, Willy Moon
--
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[Chris Brown]

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> Singles
> -------
> As expected, but disappointingly from my POV, Duke Dumont goes to #1.

The only surprising part of this is that you're so unhappy. I should've
thought this sort of retro dance track would have been right up your street.
Anyway, it's the first hit single for producer Adam Dymont, and also for
vocalist A*M*E, who was discovered by Gary Barlow so it's no wonder it's
taken her a while to break through.

> New Entries/New Peaks
> ---------------------

> Top 10 : Nelly #7,

If you missed it in the mids thread, this is now his highest-charting single
(apart from gurat appearances) since 'N Dey Say' peaked at 6 in 2005.

>Pitbull ft Christina #8,

You'd have to say it's not exactly a classic Top 10 this week, and this
couldn't sound more phoned-in if Nick Clegg responded to it.

> Michael Buble #10

Another act going through the motions, in that this is a fairly obvious
retread of his previous Top 10 hit 'Haven't Met You Yet'. But to give the
man credit where it's due, he's done the promo work and has earned a
relatively impressive singles track record for the sort of act he is.

> Top 20 : Imagine Dragons (Rad) #18,

The second single of that title to peak at that position this year. Unless
this climbs further, of course.

>Calvin/Ellie #19

Progress seems to have slowed a little, although the song is another dull
day at the office.

> Top 30 : Chris Brown #29

His latest single from his next album has been described as a return to his
RnB roots, which is a more polite way of saying it's so wannabe Michael
Jackson it makes Justin Timberlake's early solo material sound like Iron
Maiden or something. That of course makes it doubly ironic that he keeps
singing in the chorus "I'm not dangerous".

> Top 40 : Haim (Fall) #30,

I promise I'm not being biased here, but this really isn't very interesting
is it? At least 'Don't Save Me' had a chorus.
Anyway, it finally met its official release date this week, with the issue
of remixes including one by Duke Dumont.

>Imagine Dragons (OTOTW) #34,

Not yet an official single, but an album track (which obviously became
available on Monday) that has been widely licensed to adverts so we'll all
hate it soon enough.

> Iggy Azealia #36,

Apparently her real name is Amethyst. Which is more interesting than this
song.

> Macklemore etc (CHU) #38,

Speaking of generic, the follow-up to 'Thrift Shop' is a disappointingly
more standard-issue hip-hop track. Apparently this has been in adverts in
some countries as well.

>Imagine Dragons (IT) #40

You wait ages for a Top 40 hit by Imagine Dragons and then two show up at
once!
Impressively, they score their third and fourth Top 40 hits in the same week
just as they did with their first and second.
'It's Time' was the song that everybody seemed to be talking up as their big
one, so much so that even a Glee Cast cover of it made the Top 200 in
January. So naturally the record company gave it away as a little-publicised
free download and released a load of other singles instead. Now it trickles
into the chart as a cherry-pick from the album. Of course it may yet become
a major hit but it hasn't yet lived up to the hype.
It does share a title with a Michael Buble album. Everything's connected in
this chart.

> New Entries outside the top 40 (plus new peaks) : Tom Odell (HM) #44,

Still searching for that elusive hit, then. His album has been postponed to
the summer "to prevent leaks".

> AlunaGeorge #51,

The good news for Odell is that this looked like bombing a few weeks ago too
and now it seems to have picked up a bit of momentum thanks to radio
support.

> Minaj/Wayne (HS) #65,

Re-entering the Top 75 thanks to video release, although it's even less
clear than usual whether this is intended to be a UK single.

>Biffy Clyro (Bib) #70,

Third single from their album, which will presumably do more for that than
for the song.

>Imagine Dragons (Dem) #75

Yet another entry for them. I don't even think this song's been whored out
to an advert yet, people must just like it.

> Re-entries T75 : OD (LT) #67,

I presume radio has been going back to this one.

>Ray LaMontagne (Tr) #71

Getting a very short-lived boost from The Voice. Which will be good news to
everyone who's tired of Jason Mraz.

> Albums
> ------
> Justin Timberlake remains #1.

Longest run at the top this year, apparently. Though he only just made it.

> New Entries/New Peaks
> ---------------------
> Top 5 : Imagine Dragons #2,

Less than 3k behind, as it turns out, which has led some to wonder whether
the cherry-picks could have cost this album a Number One position.
Realistically, though, I suspect that without downloads there'd have been
less initial hype about the album anyway, and this is still a good
performance for a relatively low-profile band with a stupid name and an
album that was released over six months ago in the US so has doubtless lost
some sales to imports. It naturally includes their four current chart
singles, plus the other Top 40 hit 'Hear Me'.
The UK version adds many bonus tracks.

>Bring Me The Horizon #3

The fourth album from the Sheffield metal band is also their first for a
major label, and the improved chart performance is obviously a sign of them
inching towards some sort of mainstream success. However, the group have
also added keyboard player Jordan Fish to the band (replacing a guitarist)
and the more electronic sound of some tracks hasn't pleased all their
original fans; this is why the album has had only 1-star or 5-star reviews
on a certain website. Some of the former mention that the album even dares
to include some slow songs.

> Top 20 : Killswitch Engage #15,

The second biggest metal release of the week is the fifth or sixth album
from this US act and marks the return of their original lead singer Jesse
Leach, who replaces his replacement, Howard "not that one" Jones.
The deluxe version adds a documentary DVD, where you can watch the drummer
talk about drumming.

>Tyler The Creator #17,

Second solo album from the notoriously offensive rapper, who has of course
also charted as a member of the Odd Future collective. Apparently he's
slightly toned down the mysogyny on this set, in favour of a storyline set
in a fictional summer camp. There are relatively few guest stars, other than
his OFWGKTA colleagues, though there is room for Frank Ocean, Erykah Badu
and more surprisingly Laetitia Sadier from Stereolab.

>British Sea Power #19

A return to the Top 20 with their fifth proper album, two years on from
2011's underwhelming Valhalla Dancehall. Word is that this one might be a
bit better though (it's certainly shorter) so it may yet tempt me back into
the fold.
A limited edition cassette version of the album adds demo versions of all
ten tracks.

> New entries/new peaks outside the top 20 : Wiley #26,

His eighth solo album but only the second to breach the Top 40, thanks to
his rather erratic tendencies. Obviously, the fact that he's returned to a
major label and is releasing an album with three Top 10 hits on it suggests
he's in one of his more mainstream phases, as do some of the guest stars on
here: Tulisa, Emeli Sande (who he previously worked with as long ago as
2010, in fairness) and even Far East Movement. But there are signs that he's
already tiring of this, and indeed he announced on Twitter this week that he
was quitting his label in a dispute over the next single, though he has
apparently since deleted the tweet.

>Jimi Hendrix #30,

A re-entry of the "new" album that charted on downloads a few weeks ago. Now
it's even less new but widely available as a CD.

For a similar reason, Bonobo set(s) a new peak at 34.

> Flaming Lips #42,

Their first "proper" album since 2009's Embryonic, though they've busied
themselves inbetween with various EPs, a collaborations album and a complete
cover version of Dark Side Of the Moon. As some of those have hinted,
they're returning to their more experimental roots - and as the title The
Terror suggests, they're not in a very good mood either, this being
apparently a very bleak thirteenth set from them, and it seems to have shed
many of the fans they acquired around the turn of the century.
In the UK, this album is their first on an indie label for 20 years, and it
adds a bonus 3" CD single, which includes a cover of 'All You Need Is Love'.
Interestingly, the digital version of the album includes the bonus of a
continuous version of the album (ie, all in one track instead of split into
nine).

> New Kids On The Block #47,

Their 2008 comeback album The Block went Top 20 here (and somehow as high as
Number 2 in America!) but five years later the excitement seems to have
dissipated and only the most loyal of their fans seem to have known or cared
that this sixth album existed. Despite the title, 10 is only their sixth
studio album (or seventh if you count the Christmas album). Single 'Remix (I
Like The)' was co-writted by Lemar from Fame Academy and some Scandinavian
people.

> Alkaline Trio #51,

It's over ten years since the one song of theirs I can actually remember
('Private Eye' from 2001) and they'd been around for several years before
that, but they continue to sell records to a seemingly specific audience.
Apparently most of the songs on this one were written by singer/guitarist
Matt Skiba, who recently split up with a girlfriend.
A digital deluxe version adds four bonus tracks, which are also released as
an EP in the US.

>Leisure Society #71

Third album from the folky indie band who turned professional after their
surprise Ivor Novello nomination. This set finds them broadening their
musical scope a little to incorporate more of a chamber-pop sound, at least
on the half I've listened to so far.
Some copies shipped to indie stores add a bonus cassette of demos. And yes,
that is the second reference to cassettes in this commentary.

> Re-entries : Meat Loaf (BOOH) #9 (equalling its all-time peak!),

I was gonna say that!
Last week Fleetwood Mac's Rumours scored its 500th official album chart
week. It's surely coincidence, rather than an attempt to catch up (or,
strictly speaking, avoid getting further behind) that this week sees another
"35th anniversary edition" of an album from 1977.
Like Rumours, Bat Out Of Hell is no stranger to re-issues, but where the new
version of the Mac's album offered hours of rare and unreleased material,
the extra tracks on here are a live version of the title track, the intro to
the same and his hit with Cher 'Dead Ringer For Love', an unrelated track
that is neither new nor even new to this album, having appeared on earlier
CD re-issues. The package also includes the Hits Out Of Hell DVD, already
widely available separately (and neither career-spanning nor focussed on
this album). But it arrives as Mr Loaf is in the UK for what he promises is
his last tour, which has obviously helped promotion.

>Billy Joel #65,

One of those albums that always seems to be on a special offer somewhere,
but I suppose Of Monsters & Men can't re-enter two weeks running.

> Milos K #68

Oddly, this was released in a deluxe edition a month ago. That's not odd in
itself, but you'd expect it to have charted then, rather than now.

> Next Week
> ---------
> Singles
> -------
> If the new Beyonce single appears, she will surely take over at #1.

There seem to be a lot of ifs going on - the record company have said its
not a single but nowadays that doesn't necessarily mean it won't be
released. But then again, if it s released it might still not be released
here in Britain.

> Not much else in the way of new releases, though.

Even less than you think, apparently.

> Top 5 : Will.I.Am/Bieber

...Because this has been postponed again. Incidentally, why assume that
Beyonce can get to Number One on name and WillyAM can't?

> Top 20 : Nina Nesbitt

Possible, though apparently she's slowed a little on iTunes.

> Top 30 : Angel

If he's lucky, he might get another Number 41.

> There may be OA/OS releases, of course.

As this week, probably scope for climbers too.

> Albums
> ------
> I expect Paramore to claim their 2nd #1 album, especially as the
> competition from other new releases isn't strong.

As was the case last time they released an album, funnily enough. Although
they were probably more popular then.


> Top 10 : James Blake,

Possible.

> Top 20 : Counting Crows,

Screamingly unlikely - didn't they only just release one a few weeks ago
anyway?
Ah, apparently this is another live album. ZZZZZZ.

>OMD

Wouldn't expect this to do much better than their last one.

> Others : Bob Marley,

Isn't there an iffy Bob Marley album out every week?

>Sarah Brightman,

Maybe.

>Stone Sour,

Looking at this week's chart, wouldn't rule it out for T20.

>Willy Moon

I'd have fancied his chances more if he'd released an album a few months
ago.

Also, Madeleine Peyroux is no longer the big name she once was but can
probably still go T75. And there are comeback albums from The Knife and from
Big Country, who did relatively well with a re-issue last year.

Chris
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[Paul Hyett]

On Mon, 8 Apr 2013 at 00:40:44, Chris Brown <extrem...@yahoospam.com>
wrote in uk.music.charts :

>> Singles
>> -------
>> As expected, but disappointingly from my POV, Duke Dumont goes to #1.
>
>The only surprising part of this is that you're so unhappy. I should've
>thought this sort of retro dance track would have been right up your
>street.

Not *this* one.
>
>> New Entries/New Peaks
>> ---------------------

>>Pitbull ft Christina #8,
>
>You'd have to say it's not exactly a classic Top 10 this week, and this
>couldn't sound more phoned-in if Nick Clegg responded to it.

8)

>
>> Top 20 : Imagine Dragons (Rad) #18,
>
>The second single of that title to peak at that position this year.
>Unless this climbs further, of course.

You already made a comment about it, before.

>
>>Calvin/Ellie #19
>
>Progress seems to have slowed a little, although the song is another
>dull day at the office.

Then your office must be a hell of a lot more exciting than mine... :p

>
>> Top 30 : Chris Brown #29
>
>His latest single from his next album has been described as a return to
>his RnB roots, which is a more polite way of saying it's

... utter crap?

> so wannabe Michael Jackson it makes Justin Timberlake's early solo
>material sound like Iron Maiden or something.

Oh, right.

>
>> Iggy Azealia #36,
>
>Apparently her real name is Amethyst. Which is more interesting than
>this song.
>

True, unfortunately.

>> Macklemore etc (CHU) #38,
>
>Speaking of generic, the follow-up to 'Thrift Shop' is a
>disappointingly more standard-issue hip-hop track.

To me, so was Thrift Shop.

>
>> New Entries outside the top 40 (plus new peaks) : Tom Odell (HM) #44,
>
>Still searching for that elusive hit, then. His album has been
>postponed to the summer "to prevent leaks".

Surely that makes them even *more* likely??

>
>> Albums
>> ------
>> Justin Timberlake remains #1.
>
>Longest run at the top this year, apparently. Though he only just made it.

Surely his last week there, though.

>
>> New Entries/New Peaks
>> ---------------------
>> Top 5 : Imagine Dragons #2,
>
>Less than 3k behind, as it turns out, which has led some to wonder
>whether the cherry-picks could have cost this album a Number One
>position.

I'd be surprised.

>
>>Bring Me The Horizon #3
>
>The fourth album from the Sheffield metal band is also their first for
>a major label, and the improved chart performance is obviously a sign
>of them inching towards some sort of mainstream success.

Or merely the *fact* of being on a mainstream label, with the extra
promo that provides?

>
>>Tyler The Creator #17,
>
>Second solo album from the notoriously offensive rapper

That's a tautology, surely. :p

>
>> New entries/new peaks outside the top 20 : Wiley #26,
>
>His eighth solo album but only the second to breach the Top 40, thanks
>to his rather erratic tendencies.

Musically?

>
>>Jimi Hendrix #30,
>
>A re-entry of the "new" album that charted on downloads a few weeks
>ago.

Oh crap - I'll have to alter my spreadsheet again, didn't realise it
wasn't new.

>
>For a similar reason, Bonobo set(s) a new peak at 34.
>

At least I knew that had already charted.

>
>> Re-entries : Meat Loaf (BOOH) #9 (equalling its all-time peak!),
>
>I was gonna say that!

You expected me *not* to spot that? :)

>
>>Billy Joel #65,
>
>One of those albums that always seems to be on a special offer
>somewhere, but I suppose Of Monsters & Men can't re-enter two weeks
>running.

It's been in the YTD T100 on budget sales alone, all year.

>
>> Milos K #68
>
>Oddly, this was released in a deluxe edition a month ago. That's not
>odd in itself, but you'd expect it to have charted then, rather than
>now.

It *did* - it returned at #93 4 weeks ago...

>
>> Next Week
>> ---------
>> Singles
>> -------
>> If the new Beyonce single appears, she will surely take over at #1.
>
>There seem to be a lot of ifs going on - the record company have said
>its not a single but nowadays that doesn't necessarily mean it won't be
>released. But then again, if it s released it might still not be
>released here in Britain.

A new Beyonce song *not* released in Britain??

>
>> Not much else in the way of new releases, though.
>
>Even less than you think, apparently.
>
>> Top 5 : Will.I.Am/Bieber
>
>...Because this has been postponed again. Incidentally, why assume that
>Beyonce can get to Number One on name and WillyAM can't?

Because she doesn't have the drag factor of the brat holding her back?
:p

>
>> Albums
>> ------
>> I expect Paramore to claim their 2nd #1 album, especially as the
>>competition from other new releases isn't strong.
>
>As was the case last time they released an album, funnily enough.
>Although they were probably more popular then.

Hayley continues to get cuter, though. ;)

>
>Also, Madeleine Peyroux is no longer the big name she once was but can
>probably still go T75.

Didn't even spot her on the NR sched.

[Chris Brown]

"Paul Hyett" <vidc...@invalid83261.co.uk> wrote in message

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> On Mon, 8 Apr 2013 at 00:40:44, Chris Brown <extrem...@yahoospam.com>
> wrote in uk.music.charts :
>
>>> Singles
>>> -------
>>> As expected, but disappointingly from my POV, Duke Dumont goes to #1.
>>
>>The only surprising part of this is that you're so unhappy. I should've
>>thought this sort of retro dance track would have been right up your
>>street.
>
> Not *this* one.

What sort would then?

>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>> ---------------------

>>> Top 20 : Imagine Dragons (Rad) #18,
>>
>>The second single of that title to peak at that position this year. Unless
>>this climbs further, of course.
>
> You already made a comment about it, before.

About the possibility, yes, but I didn't yet know whether it'd move from the
mids.
I do sometimes recycle stuff from the mids threads because I don't think
everyone reads both.

>>>Calvin/Ellie #19
>>
>>Progress seems to have slowed a little, although the song is another dull
>>day at the office.
>
> Then your office must be a hell of a lot more exciting than mine... :p

It's a metaphor.

>>> Top 30 : Chris Brown #29
>>
>>His latest single from his next album has been described as a return to
>>his RnB roots, which is a more polite way of saying it's
>
> ... utter crap?

I think it's possible to make crap music that isn't RnB though. Some would
indeed cite him as an example of it.

>> so wannabe Michael Jackson it makes Justin Timberlake's early solo
>> material sound like Iron Maiden or something.
>
> Oh, right.

That too.

>>> Macklemore etc (CHU) #38,
>>
>>Speaking of generic, the follow-up to 'Thrift Shop' is a disappointingly
>>more standard-issue hip-hop track.
>
> To me, so was Thrift Shop.

That was at least quirkier (by 21st-century rap standards) and offered an
unusual lyrical stance.

>>> New Entries outside the top 40 (plus new peaks) : Tom Odell (HM) #44,
>>
>>Still searching for that elusive hit, then. His album has been postponed
>>to the summer "to prevent leaks".
>
> Surely that makes them even *more* likely??

Apparently his claim is that if it comes out here before it does in the US,
it would leak from here to there. I don't think that's what the term usually
means though.

>>> Albums
>>> ------
>>> Justin Timberlake remains #1.
>>
>>Longest run at the top this year, apparently. Though he only just made it.
>
> Surely his last week there, though.

In this run, yes.

>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>> ---------------------
>>> Top 5 : Imagine Dragons #2,
>>
>>Less than 3k behind, as it turns out, which has led some to wonder whether
>>the cherry-picks could have cost this album a Number One position.
>
> I'd be surprised.

Unprovable, of course, but I agree with you on this one.

>>>Bring Me The Horizon #3
>>
>>The fourth album from the Sheffield metal band is also their first for a
>>major label, and the improved chart performance is obviously a sign of
>>them inching towards some sort of mainstream success.
>
> Or merely the *fact* of being on a mainstream label, with the extra promo
> that provides?

Extra promo? Have you noticed any?
I think the direct effect of moving to a major is probably more in
distribution than anything else; but when an act moves from an indie to a
major (as distinct from when they sign to a major early on) there's usually
some sort of statement of intent. They should know that they'll be under
pressure to sell more.

>>>Tyler The Creator #17,
>>
>>Second solo album from the notoriously offensive rapper
>
> That's a tautology, surely. :p

Well, people are actually offended.

>>> New entries/new peaks outside the top 20 : Wiley #26,
>>
>>His eighth solo album but only the second to breach the Top 40, thanks to
>>his rather erratic tendencies.
>
> Musically?

Yes, but not only that.

>>For a similar reason, Bonobo set(s) a new peak at 34.
>>
> At least I knew that had already charted.

Sold almost 200 vinyl copies!

>>> Re-entries : Meat Loaf (BOOH) #9 (equalling its all-time peak!),
>>
>>I was gonna say that!
>
> You expected me *not* to spot that? :)

Not really, didn't know whether you'd mention it.
Most people, I suspect, would have thought it had got higher than 9 at some
point.

>>>Billy Joel #65,
>>
>>One of those albums that always seems to be on a special offer somewhere,
>>but I suppose Of Monsters & Men can't re-enter two weeks running.
>
> It's been in the YTD T100 on budget sales alone, all year.

Ah - maybe it's gone back to mid or full price this week then?

>>> Milos K #68
>>
>>Oddly, this was released in a deluxe edition a month ago. That's not odd
>>in itself, but you'd expect it to have charted then, rather than now.
>
> It *did* - it returned at #93 4 weeks ago...

...And now it's climbed even higher.

>>> Next Week
>>> ---------
>>> Singles
>>> -------
>>> If the new Beyonce single appears, she will surely take over at #1.
>>
>>There seem to be a lot of ifs going on - the record company have said its
>>not a single but nowadays that doesn't necessarily mean it won't be
>>released. But then again, if it s released it might still not be released
>>here in Britain.
>
> A new Beyonce song *not* released in Britain??

It's obviously going to be eventually (when the album comes out at the
latest) but it's hardly unprecedented for a worldwide release date to
exclude us.

>>> Not much else in the way of new releases, though.
>>
>>Even less than you think, apparently.
>>
>>> Top 5 : Will.I.Am/Bieber
>>
>>...Because this has been postponed again. Incidentally, why assume that
>>Beyonce can get to Number One on name and WillyAM can't?
>
> Because she doesn't have the drag factor of the brat holding her back? :p

Who's in drag?
Anyway, collaborating with Britney didn't stop Will having a Number One, and
whilst his song climbed there, it sold enough in week one to top the chart
most weeks.

>>> Albums
>>> ------
>>> I expect Paramore to claim their 2nd #1 album, especially as the
>>> competition from other new releases isn't strong.
>>
>>As was the case last time they released an album, funnily enough. Although
>>they were probably more popular then.
>
> Hayley continues to get cuter, though. ;)

Really?

>>Also, Madeleine Peyroux is no longer the big name she once was but can
>>probably still go T75.
>
> Didn't even spot her on the NR sched.

Maybe she wasn't on it when you looked?

Chris

[Paul Hyett]

On Mon, 8 Apr 2013 at 22:44:21, Chris Brown <extrem...@yahoospam.com>

wrote in uk.music.charts :
>>
>>>> Singles
>>>> -------
>>>> As expected, but disappointingly from my POV, Duke Dumont goes to #1.
>>>
>>>The only surprising part of this is that you're so unhappy. I should've
>>>thought this sort of retro dance track would have been right up your
>>>street.
>>
>> Not *this* one.
>
>What sort would then?

I can't answer that - liking (or not) happens on a song-by-song basis.
>
>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>> ---------------------

>>>> Macklemore etc (CHU) #38,
>>>
>>>Speaking of generic, the follow-up to 'Thrift Shop' is a disappointingly
>>>more standard-issue hip-hop track.
>>
>> To me, so was Thrift Shop.
>
>That was at least quirkier (by 21st-century rap standards) and offered an
>unusual lyrical stance.

The lyrics make no difference to me -it's the very sound of rapped
voices that rubs me up the wrong way.

>
>>>> New Entries outside the top 40 (plus new peaks) : Tom Odell (HM) #44,
>>>
>>>Still searching for that elusive hit, then. His album has been postponed
>>>to the summer "to prevent leaks".
>>
>> Surely that makes them even *more* likely??
>
>Apparently his claim is that if it comes out here before it does in the US,
>it would leak from here to there. I don't think that's what the term usually
>means though.

An absurd argument anyway, since the obvious answer is to release it
ASAP, everywhere at once.
>
>>>> Albums
>>>> ------
>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>> ---------------------

>
>>>>Bring Me The Horizon #3
>>>
>>>The fourth album from the Sheffield metal band is also their first for a
>>>major label, and the improved chart performance is obviously a sign of
>>>them inching towards some sort of mainstream success.
>>
>> Or merely the *fact* of being on a mainstream label, with the extra promo
>> that provides?
>
>Extra promo? Have you noticed any?

I never notice *any* kind of promo other than videos on Sky... :p

>
>>>>Tyler The Creator #17,
>>>
>>>Second solo album from the notoriously offensive rapper
>>
>> That's a tautology, surely. :p
>
>Well, people are actually offended.

People other than me, you mean. :p

>
>>>>Billy Joel #65,
>>>
>>>One of those albums that always seems to be on a special offer somewhere,
>>>but I suppose Of Monsters & Men can't re-enter two weeks running.
>>
>> It's been in the YTD T100 on budget sales alone, all year.
>
>Ah - maybe it's gone back to mid or full price this week then?

Must have.

>
>>>> Next Week
>>>> ---------
>>>> Singles

>
>>>> Albums
>>>> ------
>>>> I expect Paramore to claim their 2nd #1 album, especially as the
>>>> competition from other new releases isn't strong.
>>>
>>>As was the case last time they released an album, funnily enough. Although
>>>they were probably more popular then.
>>
>> Hayley continues to get cuter, though. ;)
>
>Really?

Yes.

[Chris Brown]

"Paul Hyett" <vidc...@invalid83261.co.uk> wrote in message

news:+kQqkoYA...@blueyonder.co.uk...

> On Mon, 8 Apr 2013 at 22:44:21, Chris Brown <extrem...@yahoospam.com>
> wrote in uk.music.charts :
>>>
>>>>> Singles
>>>>> -------
>>>>> As expected, but disappointingly from my POV, Duke Dumont goes to #1.
>>>>
>>>>The only surprising part of this is that you're so unhappy. I should've
>>>>thought this sort of retro dance track would have been right up your
>>>>street.
>>>
>>> Not *this* one.
>>
>>What sort would then?
>
> I can't answer that - liking (or not) happens on a song-by-song basis.

I'm guessing that sung vocals would have more chance than rapped ones
though.

>>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>>> ---------------------
>>>>> Macklemore etc (CHU) #38,
>>>>
>>>>Speaking of generic, the follow-up to 'Thrift Shop' is a disappointingly
>>>>more standard-issue hip-hop track.
>>>
>>> To me, so was Thrift Shop.
>>
>>That was at least quirkier (by 21st-century rap standards) and offered an
>>unusual lyrical stance.
>
> The lyrics make no difference to me -it's the very sound of rapped voices
> that rubs me up the wrong way.

That's your opinion, I was sharing mine.

>>>>> New Entries outside the top 40 (plus new peaks) : Tom Odell (HM) #44,
>>>>
>>>>Still searching for that elusive hit, then. His album has been postponed
>>>>to the summer "to prevent leaks".
>>>
>>> Surely that makes them even *more* likely??
>>
>>Apparently his claim is that if it comes out here before it does in the
>>US,
>>it would leak from here to there. I don't think that's what the term
>>usually
>>means though.
>
> An absurd argument anyway, since the obvious answer is to release it ASAP,
> everywhere at once.

Yeah. A cynical person might think they were more worried about the lack of
a hit.

>>>>> Albums
>>>>> ------
>>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>>> ---------------------
>>
>>>>>Bring Me The Horizon #3
>>>>
>>>>The fourth album from the Sheffield metal band is also their first for a
>>>>major label, and the improved chart performance is obviously a sign of
>>>>them inching towards some sort of mainstream success.
>>>
>>> Or merely the *fact* of being on a mainstream label, with the extra
>>> promo
>>> that provides?
>>
>>Extra promo? Have you noticed any?
>
> I never notice *any* kind of promo other than videos on Sky... :p

Exactly.

>>>>>Tyler The Creator #17,
>>>>
>>>>Second solo album from the notoriously offensive rapper
>>>
>>> That's a tautology, surely. :p
>>
>>Well, people are actually offended.
>
> People other than me, you mean. :p

You mean you're not offended by him? :P

Actually, I suppose the fact that he's being calculatedly offensive is the
difference.

>>>>> Next Week
>>>>> ---------
>>>>> Singles
>>
>>>>> Albums
>>>>> ------
>>>>> I expect Paramore to claim their 2nd #1 album, especially as the
>>>>> competition from other new releases isn't strong.
>>>>
>>>>As was the case last time they released an album, funnily enough.
>>>>Although
>>>>they were probably more popular then.
>>>
>>> Hayley continues to get cuter, though. ;)
>>
>>Really?
>
> Yes.

I hadn't really noticed the difference.

Chris

[Paul Hyett]

On Tue, 9 Apr 2013 at 18:41:29, Chris Brown <extrem...@yahoospam.com>

wrote in uk.music.charts :
>>>>
>>>>>> Singles
>>>>>> -------
>>

>> I can't answer that - liking (or not) happens on a song-by-song basis.
>
>I'm guessing that sung vocals would have more chance than rapped ones
>though.
>

Safe bet. :p

>>>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>>>> ---------------------
>>>>>> Macklemore etc (CHU) #38,
>>>>>
>>>>>Speaking of generic, the follow-up to 'Thrift Shop' is a disappointingly
>>>>>more standard-issue hip-hop track.
>>>>
>>>> To me, so was Thrift Shop.
>>>
>>>That was at least quirkier (by 21st-century rap standards) and offered an
>>>unusual lyrical stance.
>>
>> The lyrics make no difference to me -it's the very sound of rapped
>>voices that rubs me up the wrong way.
>
>That's your opinion, I was sharing mine.

I never suggested otherwise.

>
>>>>>> New Entries outside the top 40 (plus new peaks) : Tom Odell (HM) #44,
>>>>>
>>>>>Still searching for that elusive hit, then. His album has been postponed
>>>>>to the summer "to prevent leaks".
>>>>
>>>> Surely that makes them even *more* likely??
>>>
>>>Apparently his claim is that if it comes out here before it does in
>>>the US,
>>>it would leak from here to there. I don't think that's what the term
>>>usually
>>>means though.
>>
>> An absurd argument anyway, since the obvious answer is to release it
>>ASAP, everywhere at once.
>
>Yeah. A cynical person might think they were more worried about the
>lack of a hit.

Well it's hard to get a hit if you *don't release it*... :)

>
>>>>>> Albums
>>>>>> ------
>>>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>>>> ---------------------
>

>>>>>>Tyler The Creator #17,
>>>>>
>>>>>Second solo album from the notoriously offensive rapper
>>>>
>>>> That's a tautology, surely. :p
>>>
>>>Well, people are actually offended.
>>
>> People other than me, you mean. :p
>
>You mean you're not offended by him? :P

I probably would be if I'd *ever* heard any of his songs. ;)

>
>Actually, I suppose the fact that he's being calculatedly offensive is
>the difference.

Which is better or worse than doing so accidentally?

>
>>>>>> Next Week
>>>>>> ---------
>>>>>> Singles
>>>
>>>>>> Albums
>>>>>> ------
>>>>>> I expect Paramore to claim their 2nd #1 album, especially as the
>>>>>> competition from other new releases isn't strong.
>>>>>
>>>>>As was the case last time they released an album, funnily enough.
>>>>>Although
>>>>>they were probably more popular then.
>>>>
>>>> Hayley continues to get cuter, though. ;)
>>>
>>>Really?
>>
>> Yes.
>
>I hadn't really noticed the difference.

Well, she's not a teenager any longer...

[Chris Brown]

"Paul Hyett" <vidc...@invalid83261.co.uk> wrote in message

news:vWLOYa5p...@blueyonder.co.uk...

> On Tue, 9 Apr 2013 at 18:41:29, Chris Brown <extrem...@yahoospam.com>
> wrote in uk.music.charts :
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Singles
>>>>>>> -------
>>>
>>> I can't answer that - liking (or not) happens on a song-by-song basis.
>>
>>I'm guessing that sung vocals would have more chance than rapped ones
>>though.
>>
> Safe bet. :p

I do sort of like the fact that this track has a proper singer instead of
some autotuned bloke like most of the big dance hits do now.

>>>>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>>>>> ---------------------
>>>>>>> Macklemore etc (CHU) #38,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Speaking of generic, the follow-up to 'Thrift Shop' is a
>>>>>>disappointingly
>>>>>>more standard-issue hip-hop track.
>>>>>
>>>>> To me, so was Thrift Shop.
>>>>
>>>>That was at least quirkier (by 21st-century rap standards) and offered
>>>>an
>>>>unusual lyrical stance.
>>>
>>> The lyrics make no difference to me -it's the very sound of rapped
>>> voices that rubs me up the wrong way.
>>
>>That's your opinion, I was sharing mine.
>
> I never suggested otherwise.

I never suggested you suggested otherwise...

>>>>>>> New Entries outside the top 40 (plus new peaks) : Tom Odell (HM)
>>>>>>> #44,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Still searching for that elusive hit, then. His album has been
>>>>>>postponed
>>>>>>to the summer "to prevent leaks".
>>>>>
>>>>> Surely that makes them even *more* likely??
>>>>
>>>>Apparently his claim is that if it comes out here before it does in the
>>>>US,
>>>>it would leak from here to there. I don't think that's what the term
>>>>usually
>>>>means though.
>>>
>>> An absurd argument anyway, since the obvious answer is to release it
>>> ASAP, everywhere at once.
>>
>>Yeah. A cynical person might think they were more worried about the lack
>>of a hit.
>
> Well it's hard to get a hit if you *don't release it*... :)

He's had singles out though, they just haven't done as well as hoped.

>>>>>>> Albums
>>>>>>> ------
>>>>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>>>>> ---------------------
>>
>>>>>>>Tyler The Creator #17,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Second solo album from the notoriously offensive rapper
>>>>>
>>>>> That's a tautology, surely. :p
>>>>
>>>>Well, people are actually offended.
>>>
>>> People other than me, you mean. :p
>>
>>You mean you're not offended by him? :P
>
> I probably would be if I'd *ever* heard any of his songs. ;)

Good point.

>>Actually, I suppose the fact that he's being calculatedly offensive is the
>>difference.
>
> Which is better or worse than doing so accidentally?

I'm not sure whether it is or not.

>>>>>>> Next Week
>>>>>>> ---------
>>>>>>> Singles
>>>>
>>>>>>> Albums
>>>>>>> ------
>>>>>>> I expect Paramore to claim their 2nd #1 album, especially as the
>>>>>>> competition from other new releases isn't strong.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>As was the case last time they released an album, funnily enough.
>>>>>>Although
>>>>>>they were probably more popular then.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hayley continues to get cuter, though. ;)
>>>>
>>>>Really?
>>>
>>> Yes.
>>
>>I hadn't really noticed the difference.
>
> Well, she's not a teenager any longer...

Does that mean [NAME REMOVED FOR LEGAL REASONS] won't agree with you?

Chris

[Vidcapper]

On 11/04/2013 00:14, Chris Brown wrote:
>
>>>>>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>>>>>> ---------------------

>>>
>>> Yeah. A cynical person might think they were more worried about the lack
>>> of a hit.
>>
>> Well it's hard to get a hit if you *don't release it*... :)
>
> He's had singles out though, they just haven't done as well as hoped.

Poorly marketed, apart from anything else...

>
>
>>>>>>>> Next Week
>>>>>>>> ---------
>>>>>>>> Singles
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Albums
>>>>>>>> ------
>>>>>>>> I expect Paramore to claim their 2nd #1 album, especially as the
>>>>>>>> competition from other new releases isn't strong.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As was the case last time they released an album, funnily enough.
>>>>>>> Although
>>>>>>> they were probably more popular then.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hayley continues to get cuter, though. ;)
>>>>>
>>>>> Really?
>>>>
>>>> Yes.
>>>
>>> I hadn't really noticed the difference.
>>
>> Well, she's not a teenager any longer...
>
> Does that mean [NAME REMOVED FOR LEGAL REASONS] won't agree with you?
>

I can't answer that.


--
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Paul Hyett

[Chris Brown]

"Vidcapper" <vidca...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:KPs9t.344236$Wp1.2...@fx02.fr7...

> On 11/04/2013 00:14, Chris Brown wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>>>>>>> ---------------------
>
>>>>
>>>> Yeah. A cynical person might think they were more worried about the
>>>> lack
>>>> of a hit.
>>>
>>> Well it's hard to get a hit if you *don't release it*... :)
>>
>> He's had singles out though, they just haven't done as well as hoped.
>
> Poorly marketed, apart from anything else...

You can't claim he hasn't had the hype though.

>>>>>>>>> Next Week
>>>>>>>>> ---------
>>>>>>>>> Singles
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Albums
>>>>>>>>> ------
>>>>>>>>> I expect Paramore to claim their 2nd #1 album, especially as the
>>>>>>>>> competition from other new releases isn't strong.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As was the case last time they released an album, funnily enough.
>>>>>>>> Although
>>>>>>>> they were probably more popular then.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hayley continues to get cuter, though. ;)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Really?
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes.
>>>>
>>>> I hadn't really noticed the difference.
>>>
>>> Well, she's not a teenager any longer...
>>
>> Does that mean [NAME REMOVED FOR LEGAL REASONS] won't agree with you?
>>
>
> I can't answer that.

Good idea.

Chris

[Vidcapper]

On 11/04/2013 23:17, Chris Brown wrote:
>

>>>
>>> Does that mean [NAME REMOVED FOR LEGAL REASONS] won't agree with you?
>>>
>>
>> I can't answer that.
>
> Good idea.
>

That was only because I didn't know who you were talking about, though.

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[Chris Brown]

"Vidcapper" <vidca...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message

news:EnN9t.318948$wa4.2...@fx18.fr7...

You do realise I was just borrowing Tom Lehrer's joke by implying there was
a punchline I couldn't say?

Chris

[Vidcapper]

No?


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Paul Hyett