Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions. Historical content remains viewable.
Dismiss

Chart Commentary 27/4/13

4 views
Skip to first unread message

Paul Hyett

unread,
Apr 21, 2013, 2:32:12 PM4/21/13
to
Singles
-------
Rudimental comfortably holds off Will.I.Am/Bieber for the #1 spot.

New Entries/New Peaks
---------------------
Top 5 : Will.I.Am/Bieber #2, Daft Punk #3
Top 10 : Calvin/Ellie #7, PSY #10
Top 20 : Macklemore #12, Clean Bandit #17, Iggy Azalea #19
Top 30 : Little Mix #23, Mat Zo #28
Top 40 : Will.I.Am/Miley Cyrus #34

Re-entries T40 : Emeli S (RAAB3) #26

New Entries outside the top 40 (plus new peaks) : Passenger #44, Ben
Howard #50, Carly Rae Jepson #55, Rihanna #70, Rudimental #72

Re-entries T75 : Gabrielle Aplin (PDSYLM) #63, Fall Out Boy (Ph) #66,
Adele (Sky) #71, Eamon (FI) #74, Rudimental (FTL) #75


Albums
------
As expected, Michael Buble totally dominates the album chart this week,
with his highest 1st week sales (of 121k).

New Entries/New Peaks
---------------------
Top 5 : Fall Out Boy #2
Top 10 : Yeah Yeah Yeah's #9
Top 20 : none

New entries/new peaks outside the top 20 : Steve Earle #30, Kid Cudi
#32, Angel #33, Major Lazer #34, Kacey Musgraves #39, Iron & Wine #40,
Ghost BC #58, Passenger #71

Re-entries : David Bowie (AS) #56, Hurts (Ex) #61, Jessie J (WYA) #65,
Paloma Faith (DYWTT...) #67


Next Week
---------
Singles
-------
Rudimental v Daft Punk for #1 this week, it looks like.

Top 5 : Daft Punk (#2), Calvin/Ellie
Top 10 : Macklemore
Top 20 : Little Mix, Rihanna
Top 30 : Lethal Bizzle
Top 40 : Blue, Amelia Lily

Excepting OA/OS releases, of course.

Albums
------
Michael Buble should remain #1.

Top 5 : Will.i.Am
Top 10 :
Top 20 : Frank Turner

Others : Alanis Morrissette

--
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham (change 'invalid83261' to 'blueyonder' to email me)

Chris Brown

unread,
Apr 21, 2013, 5:54:19 PM4/21/13
to

"Paul Hyett" <vidc...@invalid83261.co.uk> wrote in message
news:LDtqJL5s...@blueyonder.co.uk...
> Singles
> -------
> Rudimental comfortably holds off Will.I.Am/Bieber for the #1 spot.

Their second chart-topper out of three attempts.
Unlike the previous two hits, this doesn't feature vocalist John Newman;
instead the track is fronted by teenager Ella Eyre. So not only is this the
second consecutive dance track to top the chart, it's the second in a row to
feature some actual good singing instead of an annoying autotuned bloke.
It's perhaps a less impressive song than 'Feel The Love', but it's still a
pleasant number that deserves to be a hit. And is.

> New Entries/New Peaks
> ---------------------
> Top 5 : Will.I.Am/Bieber #2,

Speaking of tracks with good vocals that deserve to be successful... is
something I'm going to have to stop doing now. This much-delayed single from
the much more delayed #Willpower album, '#thatPOWER' is, I think, the first
hit single with a hashtag for a title. Between that cross-promotion and the
obvious fanbase of Justin Bieber, this was an obvious choice of single, even
though it's not really any good at all. It's not even the best Will.I.Am
track in this chart.

> Daft Punk #3

A band who have to bear some of the blame for the trendiness of autotuned
male singers on dance tracks. This is the lead single from their first
proper studio album in eight years, though they have recorded soundtrack
albums and other spin-offs in the meantime, and their sound has been so
influential that they never really seemed to go away.
'Get Lucky' was released OAOS on Friday, but after one of the fastest iTunes
climbs in recent memory, it shifted a reported 50k in 48 hours, obviously
not enough to challenge for the very top but enough to beat a lot of tracks
that have four or five days' head start. And it's rather better than their
last lead single (admittedly released after the album) did, this week in
2005 (see other thread).

> Top 10 : Calvin/Ellie #7,

Eighth Top 10 single from the 18 Months album. If only the song could be as
interesting as that fact. Obviously the much-talked-of video has done
enough.

> PSY #10

But when you think of much-talked about videos, it's hard to beat this guy.
Admittedly, the track made a decent initial splash before the vid was out,
but it's obvious that the excitement around the clip for this has helped
sustain interest. It obviously won't be as big as 'Gangnam Style' but he's
kept himself free of one-hit-wonderdom in this country.

> Top 20 : Macklemore #12,

Another act who seemed at risk of that tag not so long ago, but have evaded
it without much in the way of gimmickry. Though the video does seem to have
boosted it somewhat after its smaller climbs in the previous two weeks.

>Clean Bandit #17,

Not the sort of act I expected from the name, but an act who claim to
combine elements of grime, classical and folk music. At least the title of
'Mozart's House' is no misnomer, since the track does include elements from
the late Austrian composer.

>Iggy Azalea #19

...And from an Austrian to an Australian. Best I could do with this boring
one-place climb by a boring song.

> Top 30 : Little Mix #23,

Featuring Missy Elliot. Which I mention partly because the rush-release of
the version featuring her is probably why it's now T40, but also because
this is her first Top 40 appearance since a guest spot on a Pussycat Dolls
song I don't remember in 2009. Her last solo hit was a far back as 2006.

> Mat Zo #28

A collaboration with US producer Porter Robinson, who seems to have been the
major selling point. Indeed many have said this is similar to Robinson's own
hit 'Language', and I might agree if I could remember it.

> Top 40 : Will.I.Am/Miley Cyrus #34

He's obviously realised that collaborating with vocalists even more annoying
than himself is the way to go. To be fair, there's some decent production on
this, but the rapping, singing and lyrics are awful.

> Re-entries T40 : Emeli S (RAAB3) #26

Apparently some Hungarians used this song in a performance of shadowdancing
on Britain's Got Talent. Bet the Andy Gibb estate are disappointed.

> New Entries outside the top 40 (plus new peaks) : Passenger #44,

Starting to pick up some airplay now. And yet people have managed to wake up
again and buy it.

> Ben Howard #50,

Odd run this is having.

>Carly Rae Jepson #55,

Also odd that this is outdoing her previous single.

> Rihanna #70,

Third single from the album. At least until they try to pretend it's not a
single because it's flopping.

> Rudimental #72

This track is 'Right Here' - specifically, a remix which appears as a B-side
to the new single. The original version will be on their album in a eight
days time.

> Re-entries T75 : Gabrielle Aplin (PDSYLM) #63,

Is it 59p or something?

>Fall Out Boy (Ph) #66,

Second track with a classical sample in the T75. This and 'My Songs Know...'
are both boosted by the release of their new album, but the latter only
moves within the T75.

> Adele (Sky) #71,

Has climbed just enough to be surprising.

> Eamon (FI) #74,

Gee, and I was really wondering which Eamon song might be re-charting.... :P
I do sort of remember people talking about this being back in the iTunes
chart a couple of weeks ago.

> Rudimental (FTL) #75

Putting them at both ends of the Top 75.

> Albums
> ------
> As expected, Michael Buble totally dominates the album chart this week,
> with his highest 1st week sales (of 121k).

No surprises to anyone that this album enters the chart at Number One,
though it's perhaps more surprising that this is the first time he's ever
done so. Naturally, his 2011 Christmas album was unable to do so because it
was released in October; but it's more remarkable in retrospect that his
last normal album, Crazy Love, had to debut at 2 behind Alexandra Burke.
To Be Loved follows his usual formula of a few originals (four in this case)
and batch of cover versions. Most of the latter are fairly predictable,
although he does drift into the 1960s by covering 'To Love Somebody'
and'Who's Lovin' You'. Elsewhere the album includes collaborations with
Bryan Adams, the Puppini Sisters (who seem to exist purely in order to
collaborate with him now), a capella group Naturally 7 and Reese
Witherspoon, on the umpteenth smug celebrity cover version of 'Something
Stupid'.

> New Entries/New Peaks
> ---------------------
> Top 5 : Fall Out Boy #2

Comeback album from the US pop-punk group, following their apparent split in
2009. Includes their two recent singles and collaborations with Big Sean,
Elton John and Courtney Love. The title Fall OUt Boy Save Rock And Roll, is
obviously ironic but still annoying.

> Top 10 : Yeah Yeah Yeah's #9

Fourth album from the New York trio, a decade on from their debut set Fever
To Tell and obviously even longer since they first attracted attention with
their early garage-rock sound. After their not-entirely successful attempts
at pop crossover on the last album, they're back in an experimental mood,
producing a wide variety of sounds for a band with only two
instrumentalists. On this album they've even brought in rapper Dr Octagon
(aka Kool Keith) as well as adding with synthesisers and a choir. The
standard album ends with 'Wedding Song', which is apparently not an ironic
title.
The deluxe album adds four extra tracks, all alternative versions of songs
already on the album, though it does also have a slightly less hideous
cover.

> New entries/new peaks outside the top 20 : Steve Earle #30,

Officially credited to "Steve Earle & The Dukes (& Duchesses)"; it's his
first album since 1987 to credit his backing band, the slight name change
acknowledging that they're now a mixed-sex outfit. As usual, the line-up
includes his sixth wife Alison Moorer (seventh if you count the woman he
married twice).
More than 30 years into his career, the substance of his music is fairly
settled, mostly rebellious country with a political and personal streak,
including a song about his three-year-old son.
The deluxe version offers a bonus DVD with a higher-quality encoding of the
album, plus a video, making-of documentary and four live tracks.

>Kid Cudi #32,

His first Top 75 album here, though it looks to be his third in a row to hit
the US Top 5; and curiously this has all happened despite the lack of a hit
single on this occasion and with the album charting only on download so far
(which explains why neither of us knew it was out). Although it's not the
wholly collaborative album he once promised, it does feature such names as
Kendrick Lamar, A$AP Rocky, Haim, RZA and Michael Bolton. Hang on a minute,
one of those doesn't seem right somehow.

>Angel #33,

I'd sort of forgotten he existed until he had a Top 75 single last week.
Anyway, despite only one serious hit to date (with 'Wonderful') he's amassed
enough of a fanbase to make a respectable debut with his first album. This
seems to omit his Number 41 single 'Go In Go Hard' with Wretch 32, though Mr
32 does crop up elsewhere on the album.

>Major Lazer #34,

Second album from the dancehall reggae side-project that was originally a
collaboration between producers Diplo and Switch. Switch has, er, pulled out
of the project but Diplo has managed to tempt many a guest star into the
studio including Shaggy, Bruno Mars, Wyclef Jean, Wynter Gordon, Peaches,
Elephant Man and members of Vampire Weekend and Haim.

> Kacey Musgraves #39,

An album that seems to be doing rather better on Amazon and iTunes than in
the overall chart - although that's partly because it's gained a bit in the
last couple of days (which is presumably how she overtook Iron & Wine). It's
the first UK release from the young American singer-songwriter who's already
had success as a writer for country singers in her homeland.

>Iron & Wine #40,

The fifth album from Sam Beam (his real name, even though it sounds like he
should be a character in a detective novel), following the recent trend for
North American indie singer-songwriters to move towards AOR or even MOR
sounds as they're offered bigger recording budgets. Despite this apparent
move toward the mainstream, it has actually charted slightly lower than the
last one.

> Ghost BC #58,

Second album and major-label debut from a Swedish occult metal band, who
were originally called Ghost but had to add to the name for legal reasons.
Apparently it's a bit more commercial than their first album, except that
all the songs are still about Satan.

>Passenger #71

An album that was originally released in October and re-released in
February.

> Re-entries : David Bowie (AS) #56,

Can it really be ten years since I bought the 30th anniversary re-release of
this album? Well, yes it can (it wasn't, in fact, but it could have been).
40 years ago next month, this became Bowie's first Number One album. It also
includes his first Top 3 singles 'The Jean Genie' and 'Drive-In Saturday':
there's also a re-recording of his early flop single 'The Prettiest Star',
and 'Time' (which was released as a single only in America, possibly because
of its lyrical content). A follow-up to his breakthrough set Ziggy Stardust,
it introduced a new alter-ego (although it was basically the same character
with a stripe painted on his face, if we're honest).
It follows the Ziggy album again in getting a fresh remaster from the
original engineer, which many fans say is the best-sounding CD version of
the album (though it apparently lacks a small amount of piano), as well as a
complete replica of the original sleeve and inserts, including the little
form you could send off to join the David Bowie Fan Club. He's not exactly
lacked publicity really, but it hasn't charted as well as the Ziggy re-issue
last year. Indeed it's only his third biggest-selling album this week.

>Hurts (Ex) #61,

An album that seemed to vanish after nobody cared about the first single,
but the second one's doing better.

> Jessie J (WYA) #65,

Saw a copy of this in a charity shop on Friday. I didn't buy it, obviously,
but I did buy a Now album that had a track in common with it. I also bought
another current chart album in a charity shop yesterday.

> Paloma Faith (DYWTT...) #67

Back from budget chart exile.

> Next Week
> ---------
> Singles
> -------
> Rudimental v Daft Punk for #1 this week, it looks like.

It does.

> Top 5 : Daft Punk (#2),

Unless they're Number One, presumably.

>Calvin/Ellie

Not sure, can they get another video boost?

> Top 10 : Macklemore

This seems possible.

> Top 20 : Little Mix,

This seems likely.

> Rihanna

This is utterly implausible though.

> Top 30 : Lethal Bizzle

It could happen.

> Top 40 : Blue,

Unless they're really caning it on bundles they'll have their work cut out.
Was their last one only selling to Eurovision fans?

>Amelia Lily

Yes, I think she'll slip in, not that it'll be any less embarassing.

> Excepting OA/OS releases, of course.

I think Janelle Monae has something scheduled, as does Lana Del Rey.
I also think Passenger might climb in. Loveable Rogues look like going T15.

> Albums
> ------
> Michael Buble should remain #1.

I'm not sure he should, but I'm pretty certain he will.

> Top 5 : Will.i.Am

Don't really know how this will do, except that it'll outpeak his last one.

> Top 20 : Frank Turner

This fairly quiet week looks like his chance for Top 10 or even T5.

> Others : Alanis Morrissette

I'm not sure how official this album is. And I'm even less sure of the
demand for it.

This week's metal act is Rob Zombie. This week's trendy French band are
Pheonix. There are also two new names (ot: manes) of established stars:
Snoop Lion and Karl Hyde
There's also a live CD/DVD by Whitesnake which may or may not be eligible
for the chart.

Chris
--
"Back next week with another ridiculous tie knot"

The Hit Parade Blog - now with added 1997!
http://thehitparade.blogspot.com/search/label/Charting%201997

http://nowthats.blogspot.com

http://jottingsbythescribe.blogspot.com

Paul Hyett

unread,
Apr 22, 2013, 2:16:28 AM4/22/13
to
On Sun, 21 Apr 2013 at 22:54:19, Chris Brown
<extrem...@yahoospam.com> wrote in uk.music.charts :

>> Singles
>> -------
>> Rudimental comfortably holds off Will.I.Am/Bieber for the #1 spot.
>
>Their second chart-topper out of three attempts.
>Unlike the previous two hits, this doesn't feature vocalist John
>Newman; instead the track is fronted by teenager Ella Eyre. So not only
>is this the second consecutive dance track to top the chart, it's the
>second in a row to feature some actual good singing instead of an
>annoying autotuned bloke. It's perhaps a less impressive song than
>'Feel The Love', but it's still a pleasant number that deserves to be a
>hit. And is.

I notice you carefully didn't say 'deserves to be a *#1* hit'...
>
>> New Entries/New Peaks
>> ---------------------
>> Top 5 : Will.I.Am/Bieber #2,
>
>Speaking of tracks with good vocals that deserve to be successful... is
>something I'm going to have to stop doing now.

Grin.
>
>> Daft Punk #3
>
>A band who have to bear some of the blame for the trendiness of
>autotuned male singers on dance tracks.

But at least *they* don't try to pretend otherwise.

>'Get Lucky' was released OAOS on Friday, but after one of the fastest
>iTunes climbs in recent memory, it shifted a reported 50k in 48 hours,
>obviously not enough to challenge for the very top but enough to beat a
>lot of tracks that have four or five days' head start.

It having been a quiet sales week also helped...
>
>> Top 10 : Calvin/Ellie #7,
>
>Eighth Top 10 single from the 18 Months album. If only the song could
>be as interesting as that fact. Obviously the much-talked-of video has
>done enough.
>
I prefer to think in terms of : 2nd T10 single from Ellie's 'Halcyon'...

>> PSY #10
>
>But when you think of much-talked about videos, it's hard to beat this
>guy.

Just lend me a baseball bat... :p
>
>> Top 30 : Little Mix #23,
>
>Featuring Missy Elliot. Which I mention partly because the rush-release
>of the version featuring her is probably why it's now T40, but also
>because this is her first Top 40 appearance since a guest spot on a
>Pussycat Dolls song I don't remember in 2009. Her last solo hit was a
>far back as 2006.

Though rappers rarely have solo hits anyway...
>
>> Top 40 : Will.I.Am/Miley Cyrus #34
>
>He's obviously realised that collaborating with vocalists even more
>annoying than himself is the way to go.

Except that that theory fails on Scream & Shout...
>
>> Re-entries T40 : Emeli S (RAAB3) #26
>
>Apparently some Hungarians used this song in a performance of
>shadowdancing on Britain's Got Talent. Bet the Andy Gibb estate are
>disappointed.

Do I have to ask?
>
>> Re-entries T75 : Gabrielle Aplin (PDSYLM) #63,
>
>Is it 59p or something?

Don't know.
>
>> Albums
>> ------
>> As expected, Michael Buble totally dominates the album chart this
>>week, with his highest 1st week sales (of 121k).
>
>No surprises to anyone that this album enters the chart at Number One,
>though it's perhaps more surprising that this is the first time he's
>ever done so.

Or not, given the usual timing...

>
>> New Entries/New Peaks
>> ---------------------
>> Top 5 : Fall Out Boy #2
>
>Comeback album from the US pop-punk group, following their apparent
>split in 2009.

Apparent to whom?
>
>>Kid Cudi #32,
>
>His first Top 75 album here, though it looks to be his third in a row
>to hit the US Top 5; and curiously this has all happened despite the
>lack of a hit single on this occasion and with the album charting only
>on download so far (which explains why neither of us knew it was out).

Other than the fact we couldn't give a shit, you mean? :p
>
>> Kacey Musgraves #39,
>
>An album that seems to be doing rather better on Amazon and iTunes than
>in the overall chart - although that's partly because it's gained a bit
>in the last couple of days (which is presumably how she overtook Iron &
>Wine). It's the first UK release from the young American
>singer-songwriter who's already had success as a writer for country
>singers in her homeland.

It must've been *her* I saw on one of the Breakfast shows, several days
ago...
>
>> Ghost BC #58,
>
>Second album and major-label debut from a Swedish occult metal band,
>who were originally called Ghost but had to add to the name for legal
>reasons. Apparently it's a bit more commercial than their first album,
>except that all the songs are still about Satan.

Just how uncommercial must their previous one have *been*, then... :p
>
>> Paloma Faith (DYWTT...) #67
>
>Back from budget chart exile.

Along with Celine Dion, and possibly others...

>
>> Next Week
>> ---------
>> Singles
>> -------
>
>> Top 5 :
>
>>Calvin/Ellie
>
>Not sure, can they get another video boost?

Only if Ellie can get even more attractive... :)
>
>> Rihanna
>
>This is utterly implausible though.

Even though it *is* Rihanna?
>
>> Excepting OA/OS releases, of course.
>
>I think Janelle Monae has something scheduled, as does Lana Del Rey.

She *does*? Other than a fizzy drink...? :p

Chris Brown

unread,
Apr 24, 2013, 5:25:50 PM4/24/13
to

"Paul Hyett" <vidc...@invalid83261.co.uk> wrote in message
news:aM5eKe98...@blueyonder.co.uk...
> On Sun, 21 Apr 2013 at 22:54:19, Chris Brown <extrem...@yahoospam.com>
> wrote in uk.music.charts :
>
>>> Singles
>>> -------
>>> Rudimental comfortably holds off Will.I.Am/Bieber for the #1 spot.
>>
>>Their second chart-topper out of three attempts.
>>Unlike the previous two hits, this doesn't feature vocalist John Newman;
>>instead the track is fronted by teenager Ella Eyre. So not only is this
>>the second consecutive dance track to top the chart, it's the second in a
>>row to feature some actual good singing instead of an annoying autotuned
>>bloke. It's perhaps a less impressive song than 'Feel The Love', but it's
>>still a pleasant number that deserves to be a hit. And is.
>
> I notice you carefully didn't say 'deserves to be a *#1* hit'...

Well, I didn't say it didn't either.


>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>> ---------------------
>>
>>> Daft Punk #3
>>
>>A band who have to bear some of the blame for the trendiness of autotuned
>>male singers on dance tracks.
>
> But at least *they* don't try to pretend otherwise.

That's not my point though. I don't have any moral objections to people
using Autotune or anything, it's that very heavily processed filtered sound
that was popularised by them and is now on things like the Swedish House
Mafia hits.

>>'Get Lucky' was released OAOS on Friday, but after one of the fastest
>>iTunes climbs in recent memory, it shifted a reported 50k in 48 hours,
>>obviously not enough to challenge for the very top but enough to beat a
>>lot of tracks that have four or five days' head start.
>
> It having been a quiet sales week also helped...

Only in positional terms though.

>>> Top 10 : Calvin/Ellie #7,
>>
>>Eighth Top 10 single from the 18 Months album. If only the song could be
>>as interesting as that fact. Obviously the much-talked-of video has done
>>enough.
>>
> I prefer to think in terms of : 2nd T10 single from Ellie's 'Halcyon'...

Not really record-breaking though.

>>> Top 30 : Little Mix #23,
>>
>>Featuring Missy Elliot. Which I mention partly because the rush-release of
>>the version featuring her is probably why it's now T40, but also because
>>this is her first Top 40 appearance since a guest spot on a Pussycat Dolls
>>song I don't remember in 2009. Her last solo hit was a far back as 2006.
>
> Though rappers rarely have solo hits anyway...

I know what you mean, but it happens that her last lead-credit track wasn't
credited to anyone else.

>>> Top 40 : Will.I.Am/Miley Cyrus #34
>>
>>He's obviously realised that collaborating with vocalists even more
>>annoying than himself is the way to go.
>
> Except that that theory fails on Scream & Shout...

Why? Is there an instrumental version?

>>> Re-entries T40 : Emeli S (RAAB3) #26
>>
>>Apparently some Hungarians used this song in a performance of
>>shadowdancing on Britain's Got Talent. Bet the Andy Gibb estate are
>>disappointed.
>
> Do I have to ask?

If you don't remember that Andy Gibb had a hit called 'Shadowdancing', or
that he's dead, then I suppose you do.

>>> Re-entries T75 : Gabrielle Aplin (PDSYLM) #63,
>>
>>Is it 59p or something?
>
> Don't know.

I suppose it might not still be.

>>> Albums
>>> ------
>>> As expected, Michael Buble totally dominates the album chart this week,
>>> with his highest 1st week sales (of 121k).
>>
>>No surprises to anyone that this album enters the chart at Number One,
>>though it's perhaps more surprising that this is the first time he's ever
>>done so.
>
> Or not, given the usual timing...

Or in the case of his Christmas album, the unusual timing.

>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>> ---------------------
>>> Top 5 : Fall Out Boy #2
>>
>>Comeback album from the US pop-punk group, following their apparent split
>>in 2009.
>
> Apparent to whom?

Well, they announced they were going on an indefinite hiatus, released a
Greatest Hits album, stopped touring and did solo projects.

>>>Kid Cudi #32,
>>
>>His first Top 75 album here, though it looks to be his third in a row to
>>hit the US Top 5; and curiously this has all happened despite the lack of
>>a hit single on this occasion and with the album charting only on download
>>so far (which explains why neither of us knew it was out).
>
> Other than the fact we couldn't give a shit, you mean? :p

I know a lot of things I don't care about.

>>> Kacey Musgraves #39,
>>
>>An album that seems to be doing rather better on Amazon and iTunes than in
>>the overall chart - although that's partly because it's gained a bit in
>>the last couple of days (which is presumably how she overtook Iron &
>>Wine). It's the first UK release from the young American singer-songwriter
>>who's already had success as a writer for country singers in her homeland.
>
> It must've been *her* I saw on one of the Breakfast shows, several days
> ago...

Apparently she's in the US this week, doing the "No Shoes Nation" Tour. I
presume that's a country music thing, rather than a fetish thing.

>>> Ghost BC #58,
>>
>>Second album and major-label debut from a Swedish occult metal band, who
>>were originally called Ghost but had to add to the name for legal reasons.
>>Apparently it's a bit more commercial than their first album, except that
>>all the songs are still about Satan.
>
> Just how uncommercial must their previous one have *been*, then... :p

I would guess it had songs about Satan that weren't as commercial-sounding.

>>> Paloma Faith (DYWTT...) #67
>>
>>Back from budget chart exile.
>
> Along with Celine Dion, and possibly others...

Celine didn't re-enter the chart did she?


>>> Next Week
>>> ---------
>>> Singles
>>> -------
>>
>>> Top 5 :
>>
>>>Calvin/Ellie
>>
>>Not sure, can they get another video boost?
>
> Only if Ellie can get even more attractive... :)

I was thinking that the video might get seen by more people now.

>>> Rihanna
>>
>>This is utterly implausible though.
>
> Even though it *is* Rihanna?

It was Rihanna last week as well.

>>> Excepting OA/OS releases, of course.
>>
>>I think Janelle Monae has something scheduled, as does Lana Del Rey.
>
> She *does*? Other than a fizzy drink...? :p

Yeah, she's done a song for the new Great Gatsby film.

Chris

Paul Hyett

unread,
Apr 25, 2013, 2:00:04 AM4/25/13
to
On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 at 22:25:50, Chris Brown
<extrem...@yahoospam.com> wrote in uk.music.charts :
>>
>>>> Singles
>>>> -------
>>>> Rudimental comfortably holds off Will.I.Am/Bieber for the #1 spot.
>>>
>> I notice you carefully didn't say 'deserves to be a *#1* hit'...
>
>Well, I didn't say it didn't either.

Well, ISTM the omission of the former was more significant though...
>
>
>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>> ---------------------
>>>
>>>> Daft Punk #3
>>>
>>>A band who have to bear some of the blame for the trendiness of autotuned
>>>male singers on dance tracks.
>>
>> But at least *they* don't try to pretend otherwise.
>
>That's not my point though.

Oh.

>I don't have any moral objections to people using Autotune or anything,
>it's that very heavily processed filtered sound that was popularised by
>them and is now on things like the Swedish House Mafia hits.

I see.
>
>>>> Top 10 : Calvin/Ellie #7,
>>>
>>>Eighth Top 10 single from the 18 Months album. If only the song could be
>>>as interesting as that fact. Obviously the much-talked-of video has done
>>>enough.
>>>
>> I prefer to think in terms of : 2nd T10 single from Ellie's 'Halcyon'...
>
>Not really record-breaking though.

ISTM 'most singles ripped from one album' is not a record that artists
should attempt to beat. :(
>
>>>> Top 30 : Little Mix #23,
>>>
>>>Featuring Missy Elliot. Which I mention partly because the rush-release of
>>>the version featuring her is probably why it's now T40, but also because
>>>this is her first Top 40 appearance since a guest spot on a Pussycat Dolls
>>>song I don't remember in 2009. Her last solo hit was a far back as 2006.
>>
>> Though rappers rarely have solo hits anyway...
>
>I know what you mean, but it happens that her last lead-credit track
>wasn't credited to anyone else.

Given that it peaked at #113, it's not something she'd want to draw
attention to, though!
>
>>>> Top 40 : Will.I.Am/Miley Cyrus #34
>>>
>>>He's obviously realised that collaborating with vocalists even more
>>>annoying than himself is the way to go.
>>
>> Except that that theory fails on Scream & Shout...
>
>Why? Is there an instrumental version?

Very droll.
>
>>>> Re-entries T40 : Emeli S (RAAB3) #26
>>>
>>>Apparently some Hungarians used this song in a performance of
>>>shadowdancing on Britain's Got Talent. Bet the Andy Gibb estate are
>>>disappointed.
>>
>> Do I have to ask?
>
>If you don't remember that Andy Gibb had a hit called 'Shadowdancing',
>or that he's dead, then I suppose you do.

I knew the latter fact, not the former.

>
>>>> Albums
>>>> ------
>>>> As expected, Michael Buble totally dominates the album chart this week,
>>>> with his highest 1st week sales (of 121k).
>>>
>>>No surprises to anyone that this album enters the chart at Number One,
>>>though it's perhaps more surprising that this is the first time he's ever
>>>done so.
>>
>> Or not, given the usual timing...
>
>Or in the case of his Christmas album, the unusual timing.

Good point.
>
>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>> ---------------------
>>>> Kacey Musgraves #39,
>>>
>>>An album that seems to be doing rather better on Amazon and iTunes than in
>>>the overall chart - although that's partly because it's gained a bit in
>>>the last couple of days (which is presumably how she overtook Iron &
>>>Wine). It's the first UK release from the young American singer-songwriter
>>>who's already had success as a writer for country singers in her homeland.
>>
>> It must've been *her* I saw on one of the Breakfast shows, several days
>> ago...
>
>Apparently she's in the US this week, doing the "No Shoes Nation" Tour.
>I presume that's a country music thing, rather than a fetish thing.

There does seem to have been a trend of young attractive female Country
singers emerging recently - Taylor Swift, Colbie Caillat, Lissie, Kacey
Musgraves, etc... :)
>
>>>> Paloma Faith (DYWTT...) #67
>>>
>>>Back from budget chart exile.
>>
>> Along with Celine Dion, and possibly others...
>
>Celine didn't re-enter the chart did she?

Yes, at #83 - I thought you checked the OCC's T100's? Mind you, I could
hardly blame you for repressing the above fact. :)
>
>
>>>> Next Week
>>>> ---------
>>>> Singles
>>>> -------
>>>> Top 5 :
>>>
>>>>Calvin/Ellie
>>>
>>>Not sure, can they get another video boost?
>>
>> Only if Ellie can get even more attractive... :)
>
>I was thinking that the video might get seen by more people now.

It had 357 plays last week on the music channels, and probably will have
even more this week.

I also noticed a video for Paramore 'Still Into You' on the TV airplay
chart, which I haven't seen yet.

Chris Brown

unread,
Apr 25, 2013, 3:33:40 PM4/25/13
to

"Paul Hyett" <vidc...@invalid83261.co.uk> wrote in message
news:6A8WZjLk...@blueyonder.co.uk...
> On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 at 22:25:50, Chris Brown <extrem...@yahoospam.com>
> wrote in uk.music.charts :
>>>
>>>>> Singles
>>>>> -------
>>>>> Rudimental comfortably holds off Will.I.Am/Bieber for the #1 spot.
>>>>
>>> I notice you carefully didn't say 'deserves to be a *#1* hit'...
>>
>>Well, I didn't say it didn't either.
>
> Well, ISTM the omission of the former was more significant though...

The sort of real knockout track that needs to be a Number One is fairly rare
though. I'm glad to see this at the top, but had it been beaten by something
better I wouldn't have minded.

>>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>>> ---------------------
>>>>
>>>>> Daft Punk #3
>>>>
>>>>A band who have to bear some of the blame for the trendiness of
>>>>autotuned
>>>>male singers on dance tracks.
>>>
>>> But at least *they* don't try to pretend otherwise.
>>
>>That's not my point though.
>
> Oh.
>
>>I don't have any moral objections to people using Autotune or anything,
>>it's that very heavily processed filtered sound that was popularised by
>>them and is now on things like the Swedish House Mafia hits.
>
> I see.

I know they (and Air, to an extent) did this because they couldn't sing
normally. Now it gets applied to people who can.

>>>>> Top 10 : Calvin/Ellie #7,
>>>>
>>>>Eighth Top 10 single from the 18 Months album. If only the song could be
>>>>as interesting as that fact. Obviously the much-talked-of video has done
>>>>enough.
>>>>
>>> I prefer to think in terms of : 2nd T10 single from Ellie's 'Halcyon'...
>>
>>Not really record-breaking though.
>
> ISTM 'most singles ripped from one album' is not a record that artists
> should attempt to beat. :(

I think Michael Jackson still has that one.

>>>>> Top 30 : Little Mix #23,
>>>>
>>>>Featuring Missy Elliot. Which I mention partly because the rush-release
>>>>of
>>>>the version featuring her is probably why it's now T40, but also because
>>>>this is her first Top 40 appearance since a guest spot on a Pussycat
>>>>Dolls
>>>>song I don't remember in 2009. Her last solo hit was a far back as 2006.
>>>
>>> Though rappers rarely have solo hits anyway...
>>
>>I know what you mean, but it happens that her last lead-credit track
>>wasn't credited to anyone else.
>
> Given that it peaked at #113, it's not something she'd want to draw
> attention to, though!

Her last T40 was as well.

>>>>> Top 40 : Will.I.Am/Miley Cyrus #34
>>>>
>>>>He's obviously realised that collaborating with vocalists even more
>>>>annoying than himself is the way to go.
>>>
>>> Except that that theory fails on Scream & Shout...
>>
>>Why? Is there an instrumental version?
>
> Very droll.

Can anyone claim the vocals on 'S&S' aren't stupid and annoying?

>>>>> Re-entries T40 : Emeli S (RAAB3) #26
>>>>
>>>>Apparently some Hungarians used this song in a performance of
>>>>shadowdancing on Britain's Got Talent. Bet the Andy Gibb estate are
>>>>disappointed.
>>>
>>> Do I have to ask?
>>
>>If you don't remember that Andy Gibb had a hit called 'Shadowdancing', or
>>that he's dead, then I suppose you do.
>
> I knew the latter fact, not the former.

Ah, I think it was his only major UK hit.
What even I don't know is why a Hungarian group were on *Britain's* Got
Talent unless they live here.

>>>>> Albums
>>>>> ------

>>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>>> ---------------------
>>>>> Kacey Musgraves #39,
>>>>
>>>>An album that seems to be doing rather better on Amazon and iTunes than
>>>>in
>>>>the overall chart - although that's partly because it's gained a bit in
>>>>the last couple of days (which is presumably how she overtook Iron &
>>>>Wine). It's the first UK release from the young American
>>>>singer-songwriter
>>>>who's already had success as a writer for country singers in her
>>>>homeland.
>>>
>>> It must've been *her* I saw on one of the Breakfast shows, several days
>>> ago...
>>
>>Apparently she's in the US this week, doing the "No Shoes Nation" Tour. I
>>presume that's a country music thing, rather than a fetish thing.
>
> There does seem to have been a trend of young attractive female Country
> singers emerging recently - Taylor Swift, Colbie Caillat, Lissie, Kacey
> Musgraves, etc... :)

If you allow quite a liberal definition of "recently". And "Country".

>>>>> Paloma Faith (DYWTT...) #67
>>>>
>>>>Back from budget chart exile.
>>>
>>> Along with Celine Dion, and possibly others...
>>
>>Celine didn't re-enter the chart did she?
>
> Yes, at #83 - I thought you checked the OCC's T100's? Mind you, I could
> hardly blame you for repressing the above fact. :)

I see them but I don't always pay a lot of attention to re-entries below 75.
And of course I wouldn't have known it was in the budget chart before.

>>>>> Next Week
>>>>> ---------
>>>>> Singles
>>>>> -------
>>>>> Top 5 :
>>>>
>>>>>Calvin/Ellie
>>>>
>>>>Not sure, can they get another video boost?
>>>
>>> Only if Ellie can get even more attractive... :)
>>
>>I was thinking that the video might get seen by more people now.
>
> It had 357 plays last week on the music channels, and probably will have
> even more this week.

Exactly!

> I also noticed a video for Paramore 'Still Into You' on the TV airplay
> chart, which I haven't seen yet.

I guess it's being shown on rock channels then.

Chris

Paul Hyett

unread,
Apr 26, 2013, 2:19:45 AM4/26/13
to
On Thu, 25 Apr 2013 at 20:33:40, Chris Brown
<extrem...@yahoospam.com> wrote in uk.music.charts :
>>>>
>>>>>> Singles
>>>>>> -------
>>>>>> Rudimental comfortably holds off Will.I.Am/Bieber for the #1 spot.
>>>>>
>>>> I notice you carefully didn't say 'deserves to be a *#1* hit'...
>>>
>>>Well, I didn't say it didn't either.
>>
>> Well, ISTM the omission of the former was more significant though...
>
>The sort of real knockout track that needs to be a Number One is fairly
>rare though.

Yes, we usually have to put up with utter shite topping the charts... :p

>
>>>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>>>> ---------------------
>>>>>
>>>>>> Daft Punk #3
>>
>>>I don't have any moral objections to people using Autotune or anything,
>>>it's that very heavily processed filtered sound that was popularised by
>>>them and is now on things like the Swedish House Mafia hits.
>>
>> I see.
>
>I know they (and Air, to an extent) did this because they couldn't sing
>normally.

Surely that's why rap was invented... :)

>
>>>>>> Top 40 : Will.I.Am/Miley Cyrus #34
>>>>>
>>>>>He's obviously realised that collaborating with vocalists even more
>>>>>annoying than himself is the way to go.
>>>>
>>>> Except that that theory fails on Scream & Shout...
>>>
>>>Why? Is there an instrumental version?
>>
>> Very droll.
>
>Can anyone claim the vocals on 'S&S' aren't stupid and annoying?

Only because they are so censored on the radio version.
>
>What even I don't know is why a Hungarian group were on *Britain's* Got
>Talent unless they live here.

And people wonder why I support UKIP... :p
>
>>>>>> Albums
>>>>>> ------
>>>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>>>> ---------------------
>> There does seem to have been a trend of young attractive female Country
>> singers emerging recently - Taylor Swift, Colbie Caillat, Lissie, Kacey
>> Musgraves, etc... :)
>
>If you allow quite a liberal definition of "recently". And "Country".

I would describe the last 5 years as recently.
>
>>>>>> Paloma Faith (DYWTT...) #67
>>>>>
>>>>>Back from budget chart exile.
>>>>
>>>> Along with Celine Dion, and possibly others...
>>>
>>>Celine didn't re-enter the chart did she?
>>
>> Yes, at #83 - I thought you checked the OCC's T100's? Mind you, I could
>> hardly blame you for repressing the above fact. :)
>
>I see them but I don't always pay a lot of attention to re-entries
>below 75. And of course I wouldn't have known it was in the budget
>chart before.

But you knew that about Paloma's album...
>
>>>>>> Next Week
>>>>>> ---------
>>>>>> Singles
>>>>>> -------
>>>>>> Top 5 :
>>>>>
>>>>>>Calvin/Ellie
>>>>>
>>>>>Not sure, can they get another video boost?
>>>>
>>>> Only if Ellie can get even more attractive... :)
>>>
>>>I was thinking that the video might get seen by more people now.
>>
>> It had 357 plays last week on the music channels, and probably will have
>> even more this week.
>
>Exactly!
>
>> I also noticed a video for Paramore 'Still Into You' on the TV airplay
>> chart, which I haven't seen yet.
>
>I guess it's being shown on rock channels then.
>
I rarely watch those, but it's been T40 so should have been in the chart
rundowns too - though they often cut videos short/talk over them. :(

Chris Brown

unread,
Apr 27, 2013, 6:32:14 AM4/27/13
to

"Paul Hyett" <vidc...@invalid83261.co.uk> wrote in message
news:$$lnGZBBy...@blueyonder.co.uk...
> On Thu, 25 Apr 2013 at 20:33:40, Chris Brown <extrem...@yahoospam.com>
> wrote in uk.music.charts :
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Singles
>>>>>>> -------
>>>>>>> Rudimental comfortably holds off Will.I.Am/Bieber for the #1 spot.
>>>>>>
>>>>> I notice you carefully didn't say 'deserves to be a *#1* hit'...
>>>>
>>>>Well, I didn't say it didn't either.
>>>
>>> Well, ISTM the omission of the former was more significant though...
>>
>>The sort of real knockout track that needs to be a Number One is fairly
>>rare though.
>
> Yes, we usually have to put up with utter shite topping the charts... :p

Not untrue but not exactly the point.

>>>>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>>>>> ---------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Daft Punk #3
>>>
>>>>I don't have any moral objections to people using Autotune or anything,
>>>>it's that very heavily processed filtered sound that was popularised by
>>>>them and is now on things like the Swedish House Mafia hits.
>>>
>>> I see.
>>
>>I know they (and Air, to an extent) did this because they couldn't sing
>>normally.
>
> Surely that's why rap was invented... :)

Doesn't fit with the seventies AOR sound though.

>>>>>>> Top 40 : Will.I.Am/Miley Cyrus #34
>>>>>>
>>>>>>He's obviously realised that collaborating with vocalists even more
>>>>>>annoying than himself is the way to go.
>>>>>
>>>>> Except that that theory fails on Scream & Shout...
>>>>
>>>>Why? Is there an instrumental version?
>>>
>>> Very droll.
>>
>>Can anyone claim the vocals on 'S&S' aren't stupid and annoying?
>
> Only because they are so censored on the radio version.

They're not that censored, you can still hear them say "They watch an arse".

>>What even I don't know is why a Hungarian group were on *Britain's* Got
>>Talent unless they live here.
>
> And people wonder why I support UKIP... :p

I wonder why anyone does. Especially since they seem to run the country
already without having any MPs.

>>>>>>> Albums
>>>>>>> ------
>>>>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>>>>> ---------------------
>>> There does seem to have been a trend of young attractive female Country
>>> singers emerging recently - Taylor Swift, Colbie Caillat, Lissie, Kacey
>>> Musgraves, etc... :)
>>
>>If you allow quite a liberal definition of "recently". And "Country".
>
> I would describe the last 5 years as recently.

That already rules out at least two of those names.

>>>>>>> Paloma Faith (DYWTT...) #67
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Back from budget chart exile.
>>>>>
>>>>> Along with Celine Dion, and possibly others...
>>>>
>>>>Celine didn't re-enter the chart did she?
>>>
>>> Yes, at #83 - I thought you checked the OCC's T100's? Mind you, I could
>>> hardly blame you for repressing the above fact. :)
>>
>>I see them but I don't always pay a lot of attention to re-entries below
>>75. And of course I wouldn't have known it was in the budget chart before.
>
> But you knew that about Paloma's album...

TBH, I actually saw somebody else mention it.
But I'd have been more likely to guess anyway in this case.


>>> I also noticed a video for Paramore 'Still Into You' on the TV airplay
>>> chart, which I haven't seen yet.
>>
>>I guess it's being shown on rock channels then.
>>
> I rarely watch those, but it's been T40 so should have been in the chart
> rundowns too - though they often cut videos short/talk over them. :(

Talk over them? I didn't think it was the sound you were interested in. :P

But seriously, I didn't actually think they did talk over videos on music
channels. Most of them don't seem to have any presenters.

Chris

Paul Hyett

unread,
Apr 27, 2013, 12:22:25 PM4/27/13
to
On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 at 11:32:14, Chris Brown
<extrem...@yahoospam.com> wrote in uk.music.charts :
>>>>>>
>>
>> And people wonder why I support UKIP... :p
>
>I wonder why anyone does. Especially since they seem to run the country
>already without having any MPs.
>
Huh???

>>>>>>>> Albums
>>>>>>>> ------
>>>>>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>>>>>> ---------------------
>>>> There does seem to have been a trend of young attractive female Country
>>>> singers emerging recently - Taylor Swift, Colbie Caillat, Lissie, Kacey
>>>> Musgraves, etc... :)
>>>
>>>If you allow quite a liberal definition of "recently". And "Country".
>>
>> I would describe the last 5 years as recently.
>
>That already rules out at least two of those names.

How so?
>>>
>> I rarely watch those, but it's been T40 so should have been in the chart
>> rundowns too - though they often cut videos short/talk over them. :(
>
>Talk over them? I didn't think it was the sound you were interested in. :P
>
>But seriously, I didn't actually think they did talk over videos on
>music channels. Most of them don't seem to have any presenters.

Only for the chart run-downs... :(

Chris Brown

unread,
Apr 28, 2013, 7:45:03 AM4/28/13
to

"Paul Hyett" <vidc...@invalid83261.co.uk> wrote in message
news:XhlNBFCBt$eRF...@blueyonder.co.uk...
> On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 at 11:32:14, Chris Brown <extrem...@yahoospam.com>
> wrote in uk.music.charts :
>>>>>>>
>>>
>>> And people wonder why I support UKIP... :p
>>
>>I wonder why anyone does. Especially since they seem to run the country
>>already without having any MPs.
>>
> Huh???

We all know Cameron's more afraid of them than any party actually
represented in Parliament, which is why he seems to take UKIP's policies
more seriously than those of the Liberal Democrats, who are actually in the
government. So even if you agree with UKIP, it seems like a waste of time
voting for them.

Anyway, to get back to the original point, I have no objection to people of
other nationalities actually living here, it's actually the petty
nationalism of the programme being called Britain's Got Talent that I find
more troublesome. But what really bothers me most is the suspicion that
these people are effectively ringers thrown on to boost ratings, against the
supposed spirit of the competition.

>>>>>>>>> Albums
>>>>>>>>> ------
>>>>>>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>>>>>>> ---------------------
>>>>> There does seem to have been a trend of young attractive female
>>>>> Country
>>>>> singers emerging recently - Taylor Swift, Colbie Caillat, Lissie,
>>>>> Kacey
>>>>> Musgraves, etc... :)
>>>>
>>>>If you allow quite a liberal definition of "recently". And "Country".
>>>
>>> I would describe the last 5 years as recently.
>>
>>That already rules out at least two of those names.
>
> How so?

Because they had albums out before 2008.

>>> I rarely watch those, but it's been T40 so should have been in the chart
>>> rundowns too - though they often cut videos short/talk over them. :(
>>
>>Talk over them? I didn't think it was the sound you were interested in. :P
>>
>>But seriously, I didn't actually think they did talk over videos on music
>>channels. Most of them don't seem to have any presenters.
>
> Only for the chart run-downs... :(

I wouldn't have thought there was much to say.

Chris

Paul Hyett

unread,
Apr 28, 2013, 8:29:01 AM4/28/13
to
On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 at 12:45:03, Chris Brown
<extrem...@yahoospam.com> wrote in uk.music.charts :
>>>
>>>But seriously, I didn't actually think they did talk over videos on music
>>>channels. Most of them don't seem to have any presenters.
>>
>> Only for the chart run-downs... :(
>
>I wouldn't have thought there was much to say.
>
When has *that* ever stopped DJ's... :p

Chris Brown

unread,
Apr 29, 2013, 6:35:02 PM4/29/13
to

"Paul Hyett" <vidc...@invalid83261.co.uk> wrote in message
news:iP3gqFCN...@blueyonder.co.uk...
> On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 at 12:45:03, Chris Brown <extrem...@yahoospam.com>
> wrote in uk.music.charts :
>>>>
>>>>But seriously, I didn't actually think they did talk over videos on
>>>>music
>>>>channels. Most of them don't seem to have any presenters.
>>>
>>> Only for the chart run-downs... :(
>>
>>I wouldn't have thought there was much to say.
>>
> When has *that* ever stopped DJ's... :p

Surely they're not DJs on the telly?

Chris

Paul Hyett

unread,
Apr 30, 2013, 2:01:40 AM4/30/13
to
On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 at 23:35:02, Chris Brown
<extrem...@yahoospam.com> wrote in uk.music.charts :
>>>
>> When has *that* ever stopped DJ's... :p
>
>Surely they're not DJs on the telly?

Not technically - but if it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck...

Chris Brown

unread,
Apr 30, 2013, 5:04:52 PM4/30/13
to

"Paul Hyett" <vidc...@invalid83261.co.uk> wrote in message
news:p6FyHtEE...@blueyonder.co.uk...
> On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 at 23:35:02, Chris Brown <extrem...@yahoospam.com>
> wrote in uk.music.charts :
>>>>
>>> When has *that* ever stopped DJ's... :p
>>
>>Surely they're not DJs on the telly?
>
> Not technically - but if it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck...

DJs acting like birds? Are you sure you're not watching this TotP repeat?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tvkMIdnd04
[Savile warning]

Chris

0 new messages