Chart Commentary 16/3/13

[Paul Hyett]

Singles
-------
Justin Timberlake remains #1.

New Entries/New Peaks
---------------------
Top 5 : Bruno Mars #2, Pink #4
Top 10 : Bridgit Mendler #7
Top 20 : Olly Murs #13, Script #20
Top 30 : The 1975 #24, Stereophonics #30
Top 40 : Laura Mvula #31

Re-entries T40 : Fleetwood Mac (Ev) #15, Olly Murs (TM) #37

New Entries outside the top 40 (plus new peaks) : Avicii #47, Arlissa
#48, Dido #51, Kanye #55, Jake Bugg (SIA) #61, Taylor Swift (22) #66,
Maroon 5 (Day) #73

Re-entries T75 : Sarah McLaughlin #57, Goo Goo Dolls #64, Toto #67,
Maroon 5 (OMN) #72

Albums
------
Bastille enter at #1.

New Entries/New Peaks
---------------------
Top 5 : Stereophonics #3, Dido #5
Top 10 : Laura Mvula #9
Top 20 :

New entries/new peaks outside the top 20 : Jimi Hendrix #39, Emmylou
Harris #42, Justin Fletcher #45, Brian McFadden #51, Andre Rieu #53, Bob
Dylan (R:TUC) #69


Re-entries : Alfie Boe #33, Pink (GHSF) #56, Maroon 5 (Ov) #62, Michael
Buble (CL) #68, Foo Fighters (GH) #74


Next Week
---------
Singles
-------
Far from obvious what the #1 will be - Bruno Mars, maybe?

Top 5 : Nicole S
Top 10 : Olly Murs
Top 20 : K Koke
Top 30 : Maroon 5
Top 40 : Jake Bugg, Nelly

There may be more unexpected OA/OS releases, though.

Albums
------
I would guess it'll be Bon Jovi vs David Bowie next Sunday

Top 5 : Bon Jovi, David Bowie
Top 10 : Cribs
Top 20 :

Others : Hurts, Pogues, Tim McGraw, Pixies
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> Singles
> -------
> Justin Timberlake remains #1.

Only his second credited multi-week chart-topper (after '4 Minutes'), not
counting 'Where Is The Love'. It doesn't seem atypical that even in a love
song his idea of a compliment is to compare somebody to himself.

> New Entries/New Peaks
> ---------------------
> Top 5 : Bruno Mars #2,

His second consecutive single to peak at 2. It seems unlikely, though not
impossible, that this weak ballad will get any higher.

>Pink #4

She's had a single peak at every position above 13. This single doesn't
affect that of course.

> Top 10 : Bridgit Mendler #7

Strangely-spelt American actress with a debut single that only peaked at 49
in her homeland, though it sold enough to earn a gold disc. It also went Top
10 on both Belgian charts. The song is advertised as being based on the
Fugees 1996 chart-topper of the same title, although of course the chorus in
that song is itself derived from a song by 1970s soul group the Delfonics.

> Top 20 : Olly Murs #13,

Matching the peak of his last post-album single and likely to outperform it
overall, albeit that this is second single rather than a third.

>Script #20

I think this is now their highest-charting post-album single (although some
of their pre-album releases have of course remained in the Top 20 after the
release of the parent album.

> Top 30 : The 1975 #24,

A climber for last week's 42, a track previously available as an instant
grat from a five-track EP released this week.

>Stereophonics #30

And here's last week's 41, which has benefitted directly from album release
as that's put an extra version or two of the track online.
'Indian Summer' is their aptly-titled first Top 40 single since 'It Means
Nothing' back in 2006. It's only the second ever Top 40 hit of that title,
both of which have been by Welsh trios including bass players with the
surname Jones, more than 15 years into their chart careers. Both relatively
minor hits by the respective bands' standards too.

> Top 40 : Laura Mvula #31

Another album release beneficiary, though she apparently also played her
first headline concert on Monday night.

> Re-entries T40 : Fleetwood Mac (Ev) #15,

Their first Top 40 appearance since this very same track originally charted
in 1988 as the fifth single (and third Top 40) from their last big album
Tango In The Night.
It reappears due to a popular TV (and online) advert: it might also be
helpful as promotion for their forthcoming reunion tour, although they might
not actually be playing this one since Christine McVie isn't taking part.
This track is also scheduled to appear on Now 84, which will be their first
appearance in the famous compilation series.

> Olly Murs (TM) #37

Presumably just bouncing back in by default. I don't know whether it's even
had a sales increase.

> New Entries outside the top 40 (plus new peaks) : Avicii #47,

Featuring too many people to list. I'm not sure whether this is supposed to
be a fully promoted single or just a one-off-project.

>Arlissa #48,

A singer about whom I know little, except that this has had a lot of plays
on Radio 2 and this is her second single.
I see from Last.FM that people have been talking up with song since early
January.

> Dido #51,

I just about spotted this; I sometimes miss climbers outside the Top 40.
Anyway, it's now her highest-charting single since her last Top 40 hit 'Sand
In My Shoes' in 2004.

> Kanye #55,

Didn't spot this one, in fact. Where did it peak first time?

>Jake Bugg (SIA) #61,

Ironic song title of the week.
Apparently this is officially released today.

> Taylor Swift (22) #66,

Third proper single from her album.

> Maroon 5 (Day) #73

And this is sort of the third single from theirs, although if you count
'Moves Like Jagger' it's the fourth. As usual a massive airplay hit ahead of
its sales.

> Re-entries T75 : Sarah McLaughlin #57,

Interesting spelling.
I'd forgotten (if indeed I ever knew) that Katherine Jenkins covered this
song, until I happened to see a promo CD of her version in a charity shop on
Monday.

> Goo Goo Dolls #64,

Awful American AOR part 1.

>Toto #67,

Awful American AOR part 2. Although this one is at least so bad it's funny.

> Maroon 5 (OMN) #72

Gives them two consecutive chart positions. Which is more interesting than
either of the songs.

> Albums
> ------
> Bastille enter at #1.

The debut album from the guitarless alternative rock act centred around
singer and songwriter Dan Smith (who was born on the 14th of July, hence the
band name). Launched off the back of the huge 'Pompeii' single and the
low-peaking but big-selling 'Flaws', Bad Blood also includes their earlier
singles and EP tracks along with new material.
A deluxe "Extended Cut" version of the album adds two more songs and some
alternative versions - and videos on some digital versions.

> New Entries/New Peaks
> ---------------------
> Top 5 : Stereophonics #3,

Somehow it's hard to believe that this only their eighth studio album, and
that it's their first in four years, as Phonics albums seem to have become
routine. For the record though, this is the first release on their own
Stylus label (via Ignition and EMI) and will be their last with drummer
Javier Weyler, who left after the recording last year.
This Top 5 position represents a notable improvement on the Number 11 peak
of their last album, though I suspect the sales difference is rather less
dramatic.

> Dido #5

Her fourth album which was apparently recorded as long ago as 2010 but she
chose to postpone the release for maternity leave.
Now she's finally ready to release it and has taken the time to promote it.
She has indeed done a lot more promotion than she did for her last album,
although time will tell whether that helps sales. It naturally includes the
current single 'No Freedom' as well as the Kendrick Lamar collaboration
(which presumably wasn't in the can in 2010).
A deluxe version adds a six track bonus disc of extra songs and remixes.

> Top 10 : Laura Mvula #9

Second-biggest debut album of the week comes from the Birmingham
singer-songwriter born as Laura Douglas in 1987. Her music has been
described as "gospeldelia", which is an awful attempt at a word though I
suppose it's an attempt to explain the variety of influences.

> New entries/new peaks outside the top 20 : Jimi Hendrix #39,

Not his first posthumous release, indeed this is the fifth of ten "new"
albums his estate are contracted to issue under their current contract with
Sony. Billed as a new studio album, People, Hell And Angels does indeed
contain tracks that were recorded in studios and weren't released in
Hendrix's lifetime: however most prove to be alternative versions of tracks
released on other posthumous albums, or tracks by other people on which he's
merely a guest star. Some aren't studio recordings as normally understood
but rehearsals that happened while a tape was running.
Nonetheless, he's such a significant figure that even alternative versions
of outtakes are of interest to a significant audience, and so this hits the
Top 40 on download and vinyl sales alone, as the covermount CD version isn't
eligible for the chart and a conventional CD release has yet to appear.

> Emmylou Harris #42,

She's been charting albums sporadically here since Elite Hotel in 1976,
which featured Crowell as a guitarist in her backing group (and also a
songwriter). She's recorded several of his other songs over the years while
he was busy as a solo artist and producer. He was also Johnny Cash's
son-in-law (and thus Nick Lowe's step-brother-in-law, fact fans).
After more than 30 years they've got around to doing an album of duets
together, featuring mostly covers including one song written by Patti
Scialfa, who is married to Bruce Springsteen. In further family news, it was
produced by Harris' ex-husband Brian Ahern.
Although he has had chart success in the US and Canada, this is Crowell's UK
chart debut at the tender age of 62.

> Justin Fletcher #45,

Not the most obvious album to release in time for Mothers Day - maybe the
idea is that you buy this for the kids to listen to so Mum gets some peace
and quiet?
Either way, it's the second hit album from the man who is apparently the
nation's favourite children's television performer, released just in time
(er, no pun intended) for his tour, but inevitably doing less well than the
first.

>Brian McFadden #51,

An album that's a somewhat more obvious release for this week, since a lot
of people think their mothers like Westlife. It's also St. Patrick's day
soon, and so he's stopped singing about date rape and released an set of
covers of songs by Irish acts (some from Northern Ireland). It also features
a version of 'Nothing Compares To You[sic]', written by that well-known
Irishman, Prince.
The single is a duet with Ronan Keating, though Keating apparently couldn't
be bothered to appear in the video.

> Andre Rieu #53,

A relatively low-key release by his standards, although I suppose it might
just be that people are getting tired of his busy release schedule. Like
Brian McFadden he's paying tribute to his birthplace, although he hasn't
done so by performing material written by locals. Unless the Beatles are
from Maastricht.

>Bob Dylan (R:TUC) #69

Are you sure? The OCC site has Fleetwood Mac's Greatest Hits [the 1980s one]
at that position. As far as I know The Real Bob Dylan is a budget album
anyway.

> Re-entries : Alfie Boe #33,

Makes a change to have a re-entry from a different album by him.

> Pink (GHSF) #56,

Really seems to benefit from her new material.

>Maroon 5 (Ov) #62,

Not quite back to their commercial peak then.

>Michael Buble (CL) #68,

Don't say I didn't warn you!

>Foo Fighters (GH) #74

My Mum probably wouldn't mind this.

> Next Week
> ---------
> Singles
> -------
> Far from obvious what the #1 will be - Bruno Mars, maybe?

Possibly, although at time of writing he's yet to overtake Justin T.

> Top 5 : Nicole S

It's not out of the question that she might sneak to the top by default.

> Top 10 : Olly Murs

Dunno actually, not sure there's much scope for it to climb more.

> Top 20 : K Koke

Seems a fair prediction.

> Top 30 : Maroon 5

Possible. Where was it last week?
Oh, 98. It'll need to pick up momentum then.

> Top 40 : Jake Bugg,

Unlikely, I think.

>Nelly

This does seem more likely. I don't know whether it'll ever get higher but I
don't think it'll be a big hit this week.

Alunageorge? They looked likely but they're flopping so far.

> There may be more unexpected OA/OS releases, though.

Possibly even another Comic Relief song?

> Albums
> ------
> I would guess it'll be Bon Jovi vs David Bowie next Sunday

I would guess it'll be Bowie vs Bowie (or at a pinch Bowie vs Sande).

> Top 5 : Bon Jovi,

I'm sure they're safe for Top 3, but I think they did the promo too early to
attract sales beyond their fanbase.

>David Bowie

Both versions of this are ahead of the higher version of Bon Jovi on Amazon,
FWIW. Other retailers are available.
That reminds me - knowing the iTunes performance of 'Where Are We Now' and
its chart-eligible sales, is it possible to estimate how many instant-grats
were sold?

> Top 10 : Cribs

Seems a bit high for a hits collection from a band with hardly any hits.

> Others : Hurts,

Think this'll probably go T20 - the first one went T5, remember?

>Pogues,

They've picked the right week.

>Tim McGraw,

Possible, I suppose, although he's never charted an album before so I'm
surprised you thought of him.

>Pixies

Another dodgy live album. And another act I didn't think you'd have heard
of.

Stornoway haven't had much publicity but then their first one didn't either
and it got to 14. I'll be interested to see how much worse this one does.
Meanwhile, John Grant has had more of the sort of glowing reviews that
helped his last album into the Top 75 three years ago, and sales are lower
now.

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[Paul Hyett]

On Sun, 10 Mar 2013 at 23:14:43, Chris Brown
<extrem...@yahoospam.com> wrote in uk.music.charts :

>> Singles
>> -------
>> Justin Timberlake remains #1.
>
>Only his second credited multi-week chart-topper (after '4 Minutes'), not
>counting 'Where Is The Love'.

Obviously, since has wasn't credited. :)

>
>> New Entries/New Peaks
>> ---------------------
>> Top 5 : Bruno Mars #2,
>
>His second consecutive single to peak at 2. It seems unlikely, though not
>impossible, that this weak ballad will get any higher.

That's never stopped his other weak ballads... :(

>
>>Pink #4
>
>She's had a single peak at every position above 13.

I thought she'd missed #8?

>
>> Top 20 : Olly Murs #13,
>
>Matching the peak of his last post-album single and likely to outperform it
>overall, albeit that this is second single rather than a third.

Only 2nd - feels more like the 50th! :(

>
>>Script #20
>
>I think this is now their highest-charting post-album single (although some
>of their pre-album releases have of course remained in the Top 20 after the
>release of the parent album.

Carefully avoiding comment on the song itself, I notice. :p

>
>> Top 30 : The 1975 #24,
>
>A climber for last week's 42, a track previously available as an instant
>grat from a five-track EP released this week.

Wasn't impressed with it.

>
>>Stereophonics #30
>
>And here's last week's 41, which has benefitted directly from album release
>as that's put an extra version or two of the track online.

This also made little impression on me.

>
>> Re-entries T40 : Fleetwood Mac (Ev) #15,
>
>Their first Top 40 appearance since this very same track originally charted
>in 1988 as the fifth single (and third Top 40) from their last big album
>Tango In The Night.

There's now another dancing pony advert, this time using
Darude-Sandstorm.

>
>> Olly Murs (TM) #37
>
>Presumably just bouncing back in by default. I don't know whether it's even
>had a sales increase.

A 6 place climb should be enough for one.

>
>> New Entries outside the top 40 (plus new peaks) :
>

>> Dido #51,
>
>I just about spotted this; I sometimes miss climbers outside the Top 40.

My spreadsheet automatically indicates climbers in red, though it draws
no distinction whether they climb within the T75, or from #76-200.

>Anyway, it's now her highest-charting single since her last Top 40 hit 'Sand
>In My Shoes' in 2004.

Big deal...

>
>> Kanye #55,
>
>Didn't spot this one, in fact. Where did it peak first time?

#82.
>
>> Re-entries T75 :

>
>> Goo Goo Dolls #64,
>
>Awful American AOR part 1.
>
>>Toto #67,
>
>Awful American AOR part 2. Although this one is at least so bad it's funny.

I quite like this one, myself.

At least Don't Stop Believin' wasn't charting too... :p

>
>
>> Albums
>> ------
>> Bastille enter at #1.
>
>The debut album from the guitarless alternative rock act centred around
>singer and songwriter Dan Smith (who was born on the 14th of July,
>hence the band name).

But is he French?

Also, I don't see how anyone can be called a rock act, without guitars?

>
>> New Entries/New Peaks
>> ---------------------
>> Top 5 : Stereophonics #3,
>
>Somehow it's hard to believe that this only their eighth studio album

'Only'? I didn't realise they had released this many.

>
>> Dido #5
>
>Her fourth album which was apparently recorded as long ago as 2010 but
>she chose to postpone the release for maternity leave.

For what little promo she's done, she might just as well have released
it back then...

>Now she's finally ready to release it and has taken the time to promote
>it.

How, exactly? I don't recall ever seeing a video on Sky.

>She has indeed done a lot more promotion than she did for her last
>album

That's wouldn't be saying much... 8)

>> Justin Fletcher #45,
>
>Not the most obvious album to release in time for Mothers Day - maybe
>the idea is that you buy this for the kids to listen to so Mum gets
>some peace and quiet?

Or just 'gets some'? :p

>Either way, it's the second hit album

But at least 3rd in total.

>from the man who is apparently the nation's favourite children's
>television performer
>

>>Brian McFadden #51,
>
>An album that's a somewhat more obvious release for this week, since a
>lot of people think their mothers like Westlife.

Despite the fact he left the group a long time ago?

>
>>Bob Dylan (R:TUC) #69
>
>Are you sure? The OCC site has Fleetwood Mac's Greatest Hits [the 1980s one]
>at that position. As far as I know The Real Bob Dylan is a budget album
>anyway.

Shit - I apparently read the wrong line a couple of weeks back!

The Dylan one *has* been on the full-price chart this year though,
otherwise I couldn't have picked it up by accident.

Checking back, there seems to have been a multiple cock-up on 2/3/13,
with a number of re-entries being assigned the wrong position! :(
>
>> Re-entries :

>
>> Pink (GHSF) #56,
>
>Really seems to benefit from her new material.

Even though it isn't on there!

>
>> Next Week
>> ---------
>> Singles
>> -------
>

>> Top 5 : Nicole S
>
>It's not out of the question that she might sneak to the top by default.

Would be preferable to the other two.

>
>> Top 10 : Olly Murs
>
>Dunno actually, not sure there's much scope for it to climb more.

At least 12 opportunities, I'd say... :p

>
>> Top 30 : Maroon 5
>
>Possible. Where was it last week?
>Oh, 98. It'll need to pick up momentum then.

<Cough>Fleetwood Mac<cough>

>
>Alunageorge? They looked likely but they're flopping so far.

I have no idea who he/they is.

>
>> Albums
>> ------
>> I would guess it'll be Bon Jovi vs David Bowie next Sunday
>
>I would guess it'll be Bowie vs Bowie (or at a pinch Bowie vs Sande).
>
>> Top 5 : Bon Jovi,
>
>I'm sure they're safe for Top 3, but I think they did the promo too
>early to attract sales beyond their fanbase.

When did they *ever* do that, though?

>
>>David Bowie
>
>Both versions of this are ahead of the higher version of Bon Jovi on
>Amazon, FWIW.

On their download pre-orders, you mean?

>Other retailers are available.
>That reminds me - knowing the iTunes performance of 'Where Are We Now'
>and its chart-eligible sales, is it possible to estimate how many
>instant-grats were sold?

Maybe, but I have no inclination to do so.

>
>> Others : Hurts,
>
>Think this'll probably go T20 - the first one went T5, remember?

But they had promo last time...

>
>>Pogues,
>
>They've picked the right week.

It's not December, is it? :p

[Chris Brown]

"Paul Hyett" <vidc...@invalid83261.co.uk> wrote in message

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> On Sun, 10 Mar 2013 at 23:14:43, Chris Brown <extrem...@yahoospam.com>
> wrote in uk.music.charts :
>
>>> Singles
>>> -------
>>> Justin Timberlake remains #1.
>>
>>Only his second credited multi-week chart-topper (after '4 Minutes'), not
>>counting 'Where Is The Love'.
>
> Obviously, since has wasn't credited. :)

Good point.

>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>> ---------------------
>>> Top 5 : Bruno Mars #2,
>>
>>His second consecutive single to peak at 2. It seems unlikely, though not
>>impossible, that this weak ballad will get any higher.
>
> That's never stopped his other weak ballads... :(

What hasn't?
Anyway, both his ballady number Ones entered at that position rather than
climbing to it (although one of them did return).

>>>Pink #4
>>
>>She's had a single peak at every position above 13.
>
> I thought she'd missed #8?

She had, until 'Try'. Of course when it got there we didn't know it wouldn't
climb further but I think it's safe now.

>>> Top 20 : Olly Murs #13,
>>
>>Matching the peak of his last post-album single and likely to outperform
>>it
>>overall, albeit that this is second single rather than a third.
>
> Only 2nd - feels more like the 50th! :(

Surely the endless success of 'Troublemaker' makes it feel the opposite?

>>>Script #20
>>
>>I think this is now their highest-charting post-album single (although
>>some
>>of their pre-album releases have of course remained in the Top 20 after
>>the
>>release of the parent album.
>
> Carefully avoiding comment on the song itself, I notice. :p

I've done that.

>>> Top 30 : The 1975 #24,
>>
>>A climber for last week's 42, a track previously available as an instant
>>grat from a five-track EP released this week.
>
> Wasn't impressed with it.

Well, obviously not, it's shite.

>>>Stereophonics #30
>>
>>And here's last week's 41, which has benefitted directly from album
>>release
>>as that's put an extra version or two of the track online.
>
> This also made little impression on me.

I suppose this one is more bland than bad.

>>> Re-entries T40 : Fleetwood Mac (Ev) #15,
>>
>>Their first Top 40 appearance since this very same track originally
>>charted
>>in 1988 as the fifth single (and third Top 40) from their last big album
>>Tango In The Night.
>
> There's now another dancing pony advert, this time using Darude-Sandstorm.

I read there's another version with Westlife as well.

>>> Olly Murs (TM) #37
>>
>>Presumably just bouncing back in by default. I don't know whether it's
>>even
>>had a sales increase.
>
> A 6 place climb should be enough for one.

Unless there's a significant overall sales drop. But it's only 5% I see.

>>> New Entries outside the top 40 (plus new peaks) :
>>
>>> Dido #51,
>>
>>I just about spotted this; I sometimes miss climbers outside the Top 40.
>
> My spreadsheet automatically indicates climbers in red, though it draws no
> distinction whether they climb within the T75, or from #76-200.

I just read it off the OCC site, and there's a lot of info there. I spot a
track that's a new entry or climbing from outside the 75, but sometimes miss
climbers between 75-41.

>>Anyway, it's now her highest-charting single since her last Top 40 hit
>>'Sand
>>In My Shoes' in 2004.
>
> Big deal...

This must be her first single to climb above its original entry point,
unless one charted on leaks.

>>> Kanye #55,
>>
>>Didn't spot this one, in fact. Where did it peak first time?
>
> #82.

Coincidentally, five years ago this week the Number One single was called
'Mercy'.

>>> Re-entries T75 :
>>
>>> Goo Goo Dolls #64,
>>
>>Awful American AOR part 1.
>>
>>>Toto #67,
>>
>>Awful American AOR part 2. Although this one is at least so bad it's
>>funny.
>
> I quite like this one, myself.

I didn't say I didn't, but what I like is its rubbishness.

> At least Don't Stop Believin' wasn't charting too... :p

True. I did hear it on the radio this morning.

>>> Albums
>>> ------
>>> Bastille enter at #1.
>>
>>The debut album from the guitarless alternative rock act centred around
>>singer and songwriter Dan Smith (who was born on the 14th of July, hence
>>the band name).
>
> But is he French?

No, that's David Guetta.

> Also, I don't see how anyone can be called a rock act, without guitars?
>>
>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>> ---------------------
>>> Top 5 : Stereophonics #3,
>>
>>Somehow it's hard to believe that this only their eighth studio album
>
> 'Only'? I didn't realise they had released this many.

They've been doing them since 1997, so that's not an especially prolific
output.

>>> Dido #5
>>
>>Her fourth album which was apparently recorded as long ago as 2010 but she
>>chose to postpone the release for maternity leave.
>
> For what little promo she's done, she might just as well have released it
> back then...

Or in 2011, if the record co preferred.

>>Now she's finally ready to release it and has taken the time to promote
>>it.
>
> How, exactly? I don't recall ever seeing a video on Sky.

There weren't any videos for the last album were there? Maybe she doesn't
approve of them.

>>She has indeed done a lot more promotion than she did for her last album
>
> That's wouldn't be saying much... 8)

No, but she's done a fair few interviews this time - that's where I got the
2010 bit from.

>>> Justin Fletcher #45,
>>
>>Not the most obvious album to release in time for Mothers Day - maybe the
>>idea is that you buy this for the kids to listen to so Mum gets some peace
>>and quiet?
>
> Or just 'gets some'? :p

Ick.

>>Either way, it's the second hit album
>
> But at least 3rd in total.
>

I thought so, that's why I phrased it as I did. I can't claim to have
followed his career that closely but I would expect a children's singer to
release outside normal distribution.

>>>Brian McFadden #51,
>>
>>An album that's a somewhat more obvious release for this week, since a lot
>>of people think their mothers like Westlife.
>
> Despite the fact he left the group a long time ago?

Yes, but they're all ex-members now. I mean it is only at 51.

>>>Bob Dylan (R:TUC) #69
>>
>>Are you sure? The OCC site has Fleetwood Mac's Greatest Hits [the 1980s
>>one]
>>at that position. As far as I know The Real Bob Dylan is a budget album
>>anyway.
>
> Shit - I apparently read the wrong line a couple of weeks back!

I'll trust that makes sense in context.

> The Dylan one *has* been on the full-price chart this year though,
> otherwise I couldn't have picked it up by accident.

I wonder if it's one of those ones where the download is in the main chart.

>>> Re-entries :
>>
>>> Pink (GHSF) #56,
>>
>>Really seems to benefit from her new material.
>
> Even though it isn't on there!

Maybe people take the title too literally?

>>> Next Week
>>> ---------
>>> Singles
>>> -------
>>
>>> Top 5 : Nicole S
>>
>>It's not out of the question that she might sneak to the top by default.
>
> Would be preferable to the other two.

She seems to have stalled though.

>>> Top 10 : Olly Murs
>>
>>Dunno actually, not sure there's much scope for it to climb more.
>
> At least 12 opportunities, I'd say... :p

Doesn't quite work.
Apparently the single release has been cancelled, presumably because it's
irrelevant.

>>> Top 30 : Maroon 5
>>
>>Possible. Where was it last week?
>>Oh, 98. It'll need to pick up momentum then.
>
> <Cough>Fleetwood Mac<cough>

OK, yes, if it gets used in a hugely popular TV commercial with a dancing
animal that might work.

>>Alunageorge? They looked likely but they're flopping so far.
>
> I have no idea who he/they is.

They're already at number 11 as guest vocalists on the Disclosure single.
You'd think this would have boosted their own new single, but apparently
not.

>>> Albums
>>> ------
>>> I would guess it'll be Bon Jovi vs David Bowie next Sunday
>>
>>I would guess it'll be Bowie vs Bowie (or at a pinch Bowie vs Sande).
>>
>>> Top 5 : Bon Jovi,
>>
>>I'm sure they're safe for Top 3, but I think they did the promo too early
>>to attract sales beyond their fanbase.
>
> When did they *ever* do that, though?

Roughly 1986-95.

>>>David Bowie
>>
>>Both versions of this are ahead of the higher version of Bon Jovi on
>>Amazon, FWIW.
>
> On their download pre-orders, you mean?

No, physicals. Amazon don't do download pre-orders.
However it's now the case on downloads as well.

>>Other retailers are available.
>>That reminds me - knowing the iTunes performance of 'Where Are We Now' and
>>its chart-eligible sales, is it possible to estimate how many
>>instant-grats were sold?
>
> Maybe, but I have no inclination to do so.

Maybe it's too late now.

>>> Others : Hurts,
>>
>>Think this'll probably go T20 - the first one went T5, remember?
>
> But they had promo last time...

And this time, but like Bon Jovi they did the UK stuff weeks and weeks
before the release (before even the single release in this case). I'm sure
this will do less well than the first one.

>>>Pogues,
>>
>>They've picked the right week.
>
> It's not December, is it? :p

The right week to release an album of more than one Pogues song.

Chris

[Paul Hyett]

On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 at 21:59:56, Chris Brown

<extrem...@yahoospam.com> wrote in uk.music.charts :
>>
>>>> Singles
>>>> -------
>

>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>> ---------------------
>>>> Top 5 : Bruno Mars #2,
>>>
>>>His second consecutive single to peak at 2. It seems unlikely, though not
>>>impossible, that this weak ballad will get any higher.
>>
>> That's never stopped his other weak ballads... :(
>
>What hasn't?

Getting to #1 *despite* being weak ballads...

>
>>>>Pink #4
>>>
>>>She's had a single peak at every position above 13.
>>
>> I thought she'd missed #8?
>
>She had, until 'Try'.

Oh right.

>
>>>> Top 20 : Olly Murs #13,
>>>
>>>Matching the peak of his last post-album single and likely to outperform
>>>it
>>>overall, albeit that this is second single rather than a third.
>>
>> Only 2nd - feels more like the 50th! :(
>
>Surely the endless success of 'Troublemaker' makes it feel the opposite?

It's the endless succession of OM singles that makes me feel that way.
:(

>
>>>> Olly Murs (TM) #37
>>>
>>>Presumably just bouncing back in by default. I don't know whether it's
>>>even
>>>had a sales increase.
>>
>> A 6 place climb should be enough for one.
>
>Unless there's a significant overall sales drop. But it's only 5% I see.

For this song, I estimate no more than a 1% increase.
>

>>>> Albums
>>>> ------

>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>> ---------------------
>>>> Top 5 : Stereophonics #3,
>>>
>>>Somehow it's hard to believe that this only their eighth studio album
>>
>> 'Only'? I didn't realise they had released this many.
>
>They've been doing them since 1997

But I wouldn't have known that.

>
>>>> Dido #5

>
>>>Now she's finally ready to release it and has taken the time to promote
>>>it.
>>
>> How, exactly? I don't recall ever seeing a video on Sky.
>
>There weren't any videos for the last album were there? Maybe she
>doesn't approve of them.

Didn't stop her for the first two albums...

>
>>>She has indeed done a lot more promotion than she did for her last album
>>
>> That's wouldn't be saying much... 8)
>
>No, but she's done a fair few interviews this time - that's where I got
>the 2010 bit from.

Interviewed where?

>
>>>>Bob Dylan (R:TUC) #69
>>>
>>>Are you sure? The OCC site has Fleetwood Mac's Greatest Hits [the 1980s
>>>one]
>>>at that position. As far as I know The Real Bob Dylan is a budget album
>>>anyway.
>>
>> Shit - I apparently read the wrong line a couple of weeks back!
>
>I'll trust that makes sense in context.

As it turns out, a couple of weeks ago I somehow managed to place a
bunch of non-T100 re-entries in the wrong positions, so it took a while
to correct my spreadsheet. :(

>
>> The Dylan one *has* been on the full-price chart this year though,
>> otherwise I couldn't have picked it up by accident.
>
>I wonder if it's one of those ones where the download is in the main chart.

Maybe.

>
>>>> Next Week
>>>> ---------
>>>> Albums
>>>> ------

>
>>>>David Bowie
>>>
>>>Both versions of this are ahead of the higher version of Bon Jovi on
>>>Amazon, FWIW.
>>
>> On their download pre-orders, you mean?
>
>No, physicals. Amazon don't do download pre-orders.

Can't say I've ever tried that with them anyway.

>However it's now the case on downloads as well.
>
>>>Other retailers are available.
>>>That reminds me - knowing the iTunes performance of 'Where Are We Now' and
>>>its chart-eligible sales, is it possible to estimate how many
>>>instant-grats were sold?
>>
>> Maybe, but I have no inclination to do so.
>
>Maybe it's too late now.

No, I still have my archive of iTunes charts.

>
>>>>Pogues,
>>>
>>>They've picked the right week.
>>
>> It's not December, is it? :p
>
>The right week to release an album of more than one Pogues song.

Ah. :)

[Chris Brown]

"Paul Hyett" <vidc...@invalid83261.co.uk> wrote in message

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> On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 at 21:59:56, Chris Brown <extrem...@yahoospam.com>
> wrote in uk.music.charts :
>>>
>>>>> Singles
>>>>> -------
>>
>>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>>> ---------------------
>>>>> Top 5 : Bruno Mars #2,
>>>>
>>>>His second consecutive single to peak at 2. It seems unlikely, though
>>>>not
>>>>impossible, that this weak ballad will get any higher.
>>>
>>> That's never stopped his other weak ballads... :(
>>
>>What hasn't?
>
> Getting to #1 *despite* being weak ballads...

I'd agree but as I say neither of them had to climb there.

>>>>> Top 20 : Olly Murs #13,
>>>>
>>>>Matching the peak of his last post-album single and likely to outperform
>>>>it
>>>>overall, albeit that this is second single rather than a third.
>>>
>>> Only 2nd - feels more like the 50th! :(
>>
>>Surely the endless success of 'Troublemaker' makes it feel the opposite?
>
> It's the endless succession of OM singles that makes me feel that way. :(

This is only his ninth.

>>>>> Olly Murs (TM) #37
>>>>
>>>>Presumably just bouncing back in by default. I don't know whether it's
>>>>even
>>>>had a sales increase.
>>>
>>> A 6 place climb should be enough for one.
>>
>>Unless there's a significant overall sales drop. But it's only 5% I see.
>
> For this song, I estimate no more than a 1% increase.

That would fit then.

>>>>> Albums
>>>>> ------
>>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>>> ---------------------
>>>>> Top 5 : Stereophonics #3,
>>>>
>>>>Somehow it's hard to believe that this only their eighth studio album
>>>
>>> 'Only'? I didn't realise they had released this many.
>>
>>They've been doing them since 1997
>
> But I wouldn't have known that.

Why? It's not a secret.

>>>>> Dido #5
>>
>>>>Now she's finally ready to release it and has taken the time to promote
>>>>it.
>>>
>>> How, exactly? I don't recall ever seeing a video on Sky.
>>
>>There weren't any videos for the last album were there? Maybe she doesn't
>>approve of them.
>
> Didn't stop her for the first two albums...

Perhaps she was easier to persuade before she was a millionaire.

>>>>She has indeed done a lot more promotion than she did for her last album
>>>
>>> That's wouldn't be saying much... 8)
>>
>>No, but she's done a fair few interviews this time - that's where I got
>>the 2010 bit from.
>
> Interviewed where?

I've heard her on two Radio 2 shows, and I read the 2010 thing in Metro. I
would imagine she also did some TV shows and magazines that fitted her
target demographic.

>>> The Dylan one *has* been on the full-price chart this year though,
>>> otherwise I couldn't have picked it up by accident.
>>
>>I wonder if it's one of those ones where the download is in the main
>>chart.
>
> Maybe.

All those Real albums on Sony are supposed to be competition for the
public-domain releases.

>>>>> Next Week
>>>>> ---------
>>>>> Albums
>>>>> ------
>>
>>>>>David Bowie
>>>>
>>>>Both versions of this are ahead of the higher version of Bon Jovi on
>>>>Amazon, FWIW.
>>>
>>> On their download pre-orders, you mean?
>>
>>No, physicals. Amazon don't do download pre-orders.
>
> Can't say I've ever tried that with them anyway.

You'd have failed if you did.

>>>>Other retailers are available.
>>>>That reminds me - knowing the iTunes performance of 'Where Are We Now'
>>>>and
>>>>its chart-eligible sales, is it possible to estimate how many
>>>>instant-grats were sold?
>>>
>>> Maybe, but I have no inclination to do so.
>>
>>Maybe it's too late now.
>
> No, I still have my archive of iTunes charts.

It seems too late now because we already know how well he's doing.

>>>>>Pogues,
>>>>
>>>>They've picked the right week.
>>>
>>> It's not December, is it? :p
>>
>>The right week to release an album of more than one Pogues song.
>
> Ah. :)

BTW, there is a surprise OAOAS single this week after all. But it's Agnetha
Faltskog, so not a likely Top 10 contender.

Chris

[Paul Hyett]

On Tue, 12 Mar 2013 at 18:36:53, Chris Brown

<extrem...@yahoospam.com> wrote in uk.music.charts :
>>>>
>>>>>> Singles
>>>>>> -------
>>>
>>>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>>>> ---------------------
>

>>>>>> Top 20 : Olly Murs #13,
>>>>>
>>>>>Matching the peak of his last post-album single and likely to outperform
>>>>>it
>>>>>overall, albeit that this is second single rather than a third.
>>>>
>>>> Only 2nd - feels more like the 50th! :(
>>>
>>>Surely the endless success of 'Troublemaker' makes it feel the opposite?
>>
>> It's the endless succession of OM singles that makes me feel that way. :(
>
>This is only his ninth.

Precisely - that's 9 too many!

>
>>>>>> Albums
>>>>>> ------
>>>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>>>> ---------------------
>>>>>> Top 5 : Stereophonics #3,
>>>>>
>>>>>Somehow it's hard to believe that this only their eighth studio album
>>>>
>>>> 'Only'? I didn't realise they had released this many.
>>>
>>>They've been doing them since 1997
>>
>> But I wouldn't have known that.
>
>Why? It's not a secret.

Because I have no interest in them, so I don't seek out their history.

>
>>>>>> Dido #5
>>>
>>>>>Now she's finally ready to release it and has taken the time to promote
>>>>>it.
>>>>
>>>> How, exactly? I don't recall ever seeing a video on Sky.
>>>
>>>There weren't any videos for the last album were there? Maybe she
>>>doesn't approve of them.
>>
>> Didn't stop her for the first two albums...
>
>Perhaps she was easier to persuade before she was a millionaire.

That would explain the first album, but not the second... :)

>
>>>> The Dylan one *has* been on the full-price chart this year though,
>>>> otherwise I couldn't have picked it up by accident.
>>>
>>>I wonder if it's one of those ones where the download is in the main
>>>chart.
>>
>> Maybe.
>
>All those Real albums on Sony are supposed to be competition for the
>public-domain releases.

Public domain releases? Surely they're *all* in the public domain?

[Chris Brown]

"Paul Hyett" <vidc...@invalid83261.co.uk> wrote in message

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> On Tue, 12 Mar 2013 at 18:36:53, Chris Brown <extrem...@yahoospam.com>
> wrote in uk.music.charts :
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Singles
>>>>>>> -------
>>>>
>>>>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>>>>> ---------------------
>>
>>>>>>> Top 20 : Olly Murs #13,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Matching the peak of his last post-album single and likely to
>>>>>>outperform
>>>>>>it
>>>>>>overall, albeit that this is second single rather than a third.
>>>>>
>>>>> Only 2nd - feels more like the 50th! :(
>>>>
>>>>Surely the endless success of 'Troublemaker' makes it feel the opposite?
>>>
>>> It's the endless succession of OM singles that makes me feel that way.
>>> :(
>>
>>This is only his ninth.
>
> Precisely - that's 9 too many!

Not a lot for somebody with three albums under his belt though. Robbie
Williams had released 12 or 13 at the equivalent point.

>>>>>>> Albums
>>>>>>> ------
>>>>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>>>>> ---------------------
>>>>>>> Top 5 : Stereophonics #3,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Somehow it's hard to believe that this only their eighth studio album
>>>>>
>>>>> 'Only'? I didn't realise they had released this many.
>>>>
>>>>They've been doing them since 1997
>>>
>>> But I wouldn't have known that.
>>
>>Why? It's not a secret.
>
> Because I have no interest in them, so I don't seek out their history.

No reason to know the exact date, but surely at whatever point you did
become aware of them (2001? 2003?) you'd have been aware they weren't a new
act. They were already past-it.

>>>>>>> Dido #5
>>>>
>>>>>>Now she's finally ready to release it and has taken the time to
>>>>>>promote
>>>>>>it.
>>>>>
>>>>> How, exactly? I don't recall ever seeing a video on Sky.
>>>>
>>>>There weren't any videos for the last album were there? Maybe she
>>>>doesn't approve of them.
>>>
>>> Didn't stop her for the first two albums...
>>
>>Perhaps she was easier to persuade before she was a millionaire.
>
> That would explain the first album, but not the second... :)

Royalties can take a long time to come through.

>>>>> The Dylan one *has* been on the full-price chart this year though,
>>>>> otherwise I couldn't have picked it up by accident.
>>>>
>>>>I wonder if it's one of those ones where the download is in the main
>>>>chart.
>>>
>>> Maybe.
>>
>>All those Real albums on Sony are supposed to be competition for the
>>public-domain releases.
>
> Public domain releases? Surely they're *all* in the public domain?

Public domain, in this context, means that the copyright has expired. Sony
have prepared for this by releasing value-for-money triple CD packages by
acts whose early stuff has slipped out of copyright: Elvis of course, Andy
Williams, Bob Dylan, Johnny Cash etc.

Chris

[Paul Hyett]

On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 at 23:04:43, Chris Brown

<extrem...@yahoospam.com> wrote in uk.music.charts :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Singles
>>>>>>>> -------
>>>>>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>>>>>> ---------------------
>>>
>>>>>>>> Top 20 : Olly Murs #13,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Matching the peak of his last post-album single and likely to
>>>>>>>outperform
>>>>>>>it
>>>>>>>overall, albeit that this is second single rather than a third.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Only 2nd - feels more like the 50th! :(
>>>>>
>>>>>Surely the endless success of 'Troublemaker' makes it feel the opposite?
>>>>
>>>> It's the endless succession of OM singles that makes me feel that way.
>>>> :(
>>>
>>>This is only his ninth.
>>
>> Precisely - that's 9 too many!
>
>Not a lot for somebody with three albums under his belt though. Robbie
>Williams had released 12 or 13 at the equivalent point.

Yes, but at least Robbie came up with good songs *occasionally*...

>
>>>>>>>> Albums
>>>>>>>> ------
>>>>>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>>>>>> ---------------------

>>>>>>>> Dido #5
>>>>>
>>>>>>>Now she's finally ready to release it and has taken the time to
>>>>>>>promote
>>>>>>>it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How, exactly? I don't recall ever seeing a video on Sky.
>>>>>
>>>>>There weren't any videos for the last album were there? Maybe she
>>>>>doesn't approve of them.
>>>>
>>>> Didn't stop her for the first two albums...
>>>
>>>Perhaps she was easier to persuade before she was a millionaire.
>>
>> That would explain the first album, but not the second... :)
>
>Royalties can take a long time to come through.

Not as long as 3 years though!

In any case, I get the impression she was hardly on the breadline even
before her debut album...

>>>
>>>All those Real albums on Sony are supposed to be competition for the
>>>public-domain releases.
>>
>> Public domain releases? Surely they're *all* in the public domain?
>
>Public domain, in this context, means that the copyright has expired.

Oh, right.

> Sony have prepared for this by releasing value-for-money triple CD
>packages by acts whose early stuff has slipped out of copyright: Elvis
>of course, Andy Williams, Bob Dylan, Johnny Cash etc.

That explains at lot of material on the Budget album chart then. :)

[Chris Brown]

"Paul Hyett" <vidc...@invalid83261.co.uk> wrote in message

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> On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 at 23:04:43, Chris Brown <extrem...@yahoospam.com>
> wrote in uk.music.charts :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Singles
>>>>>>>>> -------
>>>>>>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>>>>>>> ---------------------
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Top 20 : Olly Murs #13,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Matching the peak of his last post-album single and likely to
>>>>>>>>outperform
>>>>>>>>it
>>>>>>>>overall, albeit that this is second single rather than a third.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Only 2nd - feels more like the 50th! :(
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Surely the endless success of 'Troublemaker' makes it feel the
>>>>>>opposite?
>>>>>
>>>>> It's the endless succession of OM singles that makes me feel that way.
>>>>> :(
>>>>
>>>>This is only his ninth.
>>>
>>> Precisely - that's 9 too many!
>>
>>Not a lot for somebody with three albums under his belt though. Robbie
>>Williams had released 12 or 13 at the equivalent point.
>
> Yes, but at least Robbie came up with good songs *occasionally*...

'Freedom' was a cover version, it doesn't count.

>>>>>>>>> Albums
>>>>>>>>> ------
>>>>>>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>>>>>>> ---------------------
>>>>>>>>> Dido #5
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Now she's finally ready to release it and has taken the time to
>>>>>>>>promote
>>>>>>>>it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How, exactly? I don't recall ever seeing a video on Sky.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>There weren't any videos for the last album were there? Maybe she
>>>>>>doesn't approve of them.
>>>>>
>>>>> Didn't stop her for the first two albums...
>>>>
>>>>Perhaps she was easier to persuade before she was a millionaire.
>>>
>>> That would explain the first album, but not the second... :)
>>
>>Royalties can take a long time to come through.
>
> Not as long as 3 years though!

Remember she doesn't get any until she's recouped the advance and recording
costs.

> In any case, I get the impression she was hardly on the breadline even
> before her debut album...

Yeah, I wasn't being 100% serious about that reason.

>>>>All those Real albums on Sony are supposed to be competition for the
>>>>public-domain releases.
>>>
>>> Public domain releases? Surely they're *all* in the public domain?
>>
>>Public domain, in this context, means that the copyright has expired.
>
> Oh, right.
>
>> Sony have prepared for this by releasing value-for-money triple CD
>> packages by acts whose early stuff has slipped out of copyright: Elvis of
>> course, Andy Williams, Bob Dylan, Johnny Cash etc.
>
> That explains at lot of material on the Budget album chart then. :)

We'll be getting some Beatles stuff in there soon.

Chris

[Paul Hyett]

On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 at 21:07:22, Chris Brown

<extrem...@yahoospam.com> wrote in uk.music.charts :
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Singles
>>>>>>>>>> -------
>>>>>>>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Top 20 : Olly Murs #13,
>>>>>>

>>>>>> It's the endless succession of OM singles that makes me feel that way.
>>>>>> :(
>>>>>
>>>>>This is only his ninth.
>>>>
>>>> Precisely - that's 9 too many!
>>>
>>>Not a lot for somebody with three albums under his belt though. Robbie
>>>Williams had released 12 or 13 at the equivalent point.
>>
>> Yes, but at least Robbie came up with good songs *occasionally*...
>
>'Freedom' was a cover version, it doesn't count.

I didn't even mention it!

>
>>>>>>>>>> Albums
>>>>>>>>>> ------
>>>>>>>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------
>>>>>>>>>> Dido #5
>>>

>>>Royalties can take a long time to come through.
>>
>> Not as long as 3 years though!
>
>Remember she doesn't get any until she's recouped the advance and
>recording costs.

I suspect she did that on week 1, with her 2nd album. :p

>>>
>>>Public domain, in this context, means that the copyright has expired.
>>
>> Oh, right.
>>
>>> Sony have prepared for this by releasing value-for-money triple CD
>>> packages by acts whose early stuff has slipped out of copyright: Elvis of
>>> course, Andy Williams, Bob Dylan, Johnny Cash etc.
>>
>> That explains at lot of material on the Budget album chart then. :)
>
>We'll be getting some Beatles stuff in there soon.
>

Probably.

[Chris Brown]

"Paul Hyett" <vidc...@invalid83261.co.uk> wrote in message

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> On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 at 21:07:22, Chris Brown <extrem...@yahoospam.com>
> wrote in uk.music.charts :
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Singles
>>>>>>>>>>> -------
>>>>>>>>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Top 20 : Olly Murs #13,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's the endless succession of OM singles that makes me feel that
>>>>>>> way.
>>>>>>> :(
>>>>>>
>>>>>>This is only his ninth.
>>>>>
>>>>> Precisely - that's 9 too many!
>>>>
>>>>Not a lot for somebody with three albums under his belt though. Robbie
>>>>Williams had released 12 or 13 at the equivalent point.
>>>
>>> Yes, but at least Robbie came up with good songs *occasionally*...
>>
>>'Freedom' was a cover version, it doesn't count.
>
> I didn't even mention it!

Well, you mentioned "good songs" and the cover of 'She's The One' was a
later single. :P

>>>>>>>>>>> Albums
>>>>>>>>>>> ------
>>>>>>>>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------
>>>>>>>>>>> Dido #5
>>>>
>>>>Royalties can take a long time to come through.
>>>
>>> Not as long as 3 years though!
>>
>>Remember she doesn't get any until she's recouped the advance and
>>recording costs.
>
> I suspect she did that on week 1, with her 2nd album. :p

Mathematically possible, but highly unlikely because the advance the label
offer would be dependent partly on the sales they expected. I can't imagine
that first week sales of that album would be much more than a million
worldwide (assuming it actually was released in the same week everywhere) .

>>>>Public domain, in this context, means that the copyright has expired.
>>>
>>> Oh, right.
>>>
>>>> Sony have prepared for this by releasing value-for-money triple CD
>>>> packages by acts whose early stuff has slipped out of copyright: Elvis
>>>> of
>>>> course, Andy Williams, Bob Dylan, Johnny Cash etc.
>>>
>>> That explains at lot of material on the Budget album chart then. :)
>>
>>We'll be getting some Beatles stuff in there soon.
>>
> Probably.

There already are some budget albums from their pre-EMI days (and were, I
think even before the copyright ran out) but once the proper albums and big
hits start to go off that'll be more significant.
I see there are some unofficial versions of Please Please me already on
download sites, which I'm pretty sure are technically illegal but the labels
are probably betting Universal and Apple won't bother to sue them because
the court case will take so long that it will have expired by then.

Chris

[Paul Hyett]

On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 at 18:05:18, Chris Brown

<extrem...@yahoospam.com> wrote in uk.music.charts :
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Singles
>>>>>>>>>>>> -------

>>>>>>>>>>>> Albums
>>>>>>>>>>>> ------
>>>>>>>>>>>> New Entries/New Peaks
>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>> Dido #5
>>>>>
>>>>>Royalties can take a long time to come through.
>>>>
>>>> Not as long as 3 years though!
>>>
>>>Remember she doesn't get any until she's recouped the advance and
>>>recording costs.
>>
>> I suspect she did that on week 1, with her 2nd album. :p
>
>Mathematically possible, but highly unlikely because the advance the
>label offer would be dependent partly on the sales they expected. I
>can't imagine that first week sales of that album would be much more
>than a million worldwide

As little as that? 8)

[Chris Brown]

"Paul Hyett" <vidc...@invalid83261.co.uk> wrote in message

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Maybe a bit more, allowing for the 400k it did in the UK, but I think that
was a bit of an outlier.

Chris