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Brenda Selwyn

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Aug 31, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/31/00
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This morning I received the following by e-mail from my ex-boss Tim
King, who now lives near Mynyddbach. It was dated 30/08/00:

|Sad news: Pete Hesketh was found dead in his bath yesterday morning.

|He'll be missed here - please tell people in his newsgroups.

|Cause of death unknown but it appears it might be a brain haemorrhage (he
|had a medical history pointing to this) or heart attack.

Obviously this came as a great shock, as I know it will to others. I
think it's true to say that we all loved Peter, and will miss him
enormously.

I am trying to find out details of the funeral, though I doubt I will
be able to go - I'll get details as soon as I have them in case anyrat
wants to go. Also I will try to find out where condolences etc should
be sent.

I don't know which other groups Peter subscribed to. I will try to
find out through Deja, but if anyone subscribes to any of them and
wants to pass on the sad news (rather than me do it as a stranger),
please let me know.

Brenda

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Kim Andrews

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Aug 31, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/31/00
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On Thu, 31 Aug 2000 09:03:11 +0100, Brenda Selwyn
<bre...@matson.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>This morning I received the following by e-mail from my ex-boss Tim
>King, who now lives near Mynyddbach. It was dated 30/08/00:
>
>|Sad news: Pete Hesketh was found dead in his bath yesterday morning.
>
>|He'll be missed here - please tell people in his newsgroups.
>
>|Cause of death unknown but it appears it might be a brain haemorrhage (he
>|had a medical history pointing to this) or heart attack.
>
>Obviously this came as a great shock, as I know it will to others. I
>think it's true to say that we all loved Peter, and will miss him
>enormously.

This is horrible. *Horrible*. :o((((
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George Middleton

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Aug 31, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/31/00
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Brenda Selwyn wrote>

>|Sad news: Pete Hesketh was found dead in his bath yesterday morning.

No. I'd already missed him and wondered why he wasn't posting yesterday.

Shutting down now.
--
George

Ruth Morrow

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Aug 31, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/31/00
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Terrible news:-(( What an appalling shock. My heart goes out to his
family.

Ruth

Anne Olympios

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Brenda Selwyn wrote:
>
> This morning I received the following by e-mail from my ex-boss Tim
> King, who now lives near Mynyddbach. It was dated 30/08/00:
>
> |Sad news: Pete Hesketh was found dead in his bath yesterday morning.
>
> |He'll be missed here - please tell people in his newsgroups.
>
> |Cause of death unknown but it appears it might be a brain haemorrhage (he
> |had a medical history pointing to this) or heart attack.
>
> Obviously this came as a great shock, as I know it will to others. I
> think it's true to say that we all loved Peter, and will miss him
> enormously.
>
> I am trying to find out details of the funeral, though I doubt I will
> be able to go - I'll get details as soon as I have them in case anyrat
> wants to go. Also I will try to find out where condolences etc should
> be sent.
>
> I don't know which other groups Peter subscribed to. I will try to
> find out through Deja, but if anyone subscribes to any of them and
> wants to pass on the sad news (rather than me do it as a stranger),
> please let me know.
>
Don't know what more to say - just want to register condolences to those
of you who knew him better/longer than me through Umra.

So sorry.
Anne.

Serena Blanchflower

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Aug 31, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/31/00
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Brenda Selwyn wrote:
>
> |Sad news: Pete Hesketh was found dead in his bath yesterday morning.
>
That's dreadful news. We'll certainly miss him.

Is anyone able to pass umra's condolences to his family?

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Charles F Hankel

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Aug 31, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/31/00
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Brenda Selwyn <bre...@matson.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> This morning I received the following by e-mail from my ex-boss Tim
> King, who now lives near Mynyddbach. It was dated 30/08/00:
>

> |Sad news: Pete Hesketh was found dead in his bath yesterday morning.
>

> |He'll be missed here - please tell people in his newsgroups.
>

> Obviously this came as a great shock, as I know it will to others. I
> think it's true to say that we all loved Peter, and will miss him
> enormously.

I couldn't have put it better myself. He was a nice chap with a sense of
fun and humour that contributed to umra being the sort of group that it is.



> I am trying to find out details of the funeral, though I doubt I will
> be able to go - I'll get details as soon as I have them in case anyrat
> wants to go. Also I will try to find out where condolences etc should
> be sent.

Thanks for notifying us, Brenda. The latter will be useful - I may have an
address here somewhere but am honestly too stunned by the news to think of
exactly where it is.

--
Charles
holding back a tear


Stephen GC Tilley

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Aug 31, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/31/00
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In article <9yCZ9FBF...@cableinet.co.uk>,
George Middleton <gzo...@cableinet.co.uk> wrote:
> Brenda Selwyn wrote>

> >|Sad news: Pete Hesketh was found dead in his bath yesterday morning.
>
> No. I'd already missed him and wondered why he wasn't posting
yesterday.
>
> Shutting down now.
> --
> George

Also logging out.

It is sad when those who enjoy life are robbed of it early.

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Colin Blackburn

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Aug 31, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/31/00
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On Thu, 31 Aug 2000 09:03:11 +0100 in article
<iq3sqs4j62m4ohltr...@4ax.com>, Brenda Selwyn wrote:
> This morning I received the following by e-mail from my ex-boss Tim
> King, who now lives near Mynyddbach. It was dated 30/08/00:
>
> |Sad news: Pete Hesketh was found dead in his bath yesterday morning.

My first encounter with Peter from my earliest days in umra was him
emailing me to tell me I was overquoting, at the time I took this the
wrong way. Over the years I have come to know him, or rather his umra
persona, better and I very much appreciated his good humour and
substantial contribution to the group, in terms of quality rather than
quantity. I can only echo others in saying that he and his contributions
will be missed and in extending my condolences to those who loved him
and knew him personally.

Colin


LizJ

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Aug 31, 2000, 7:56:10 AM8/31/00
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Brenda Selwyn wrote:

> |Sad news: Pete Hesketh was found dead in his bath yesterday morning.

Oh nugger!

> Obviously this came as a great shock, as I know it will to others. I
> think it's true to say that we all loved Peter, and will miss him
> enormously.

True, echoed here.

> I am trying to find out details of the funeral, though I doubt I will
> be able to go - I'll get details as soon as I have them in case anyrat
> wants to go. Also I will try to find out where condolences etc should
> be sent.

Please do.

Thanks for passing the news on.

Liz, also going quiet now.

Ben Blaney

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Aug 31, 2000, 8:19:19 AM8/31/00
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On Thu, 31 Aug 2000 09:03:11 +0100, Brenda Selwyn
<bre...@matson.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>This morning I received the following by e-mail from my ex-boss Tim
>King, who now lives near Mynyddbach. It was dated 30/08/00:
>

>|Sad news: Pete Hesketh was found dead in his bath yesterday morning.
>

>|He'll be missed here - please tell people in his newsgroups.

He was a fine man. RIP.

--

Ben

Mike Ellwood

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Aug 31, 2000, 9:05:17 AM8/31/00
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This is a terrible shock, although I am grateful that the news has
been passed on, sad though it is.

I never got around to meeting him personally, being a BBQ-absentee
several years running, but was sure that I would in due course.

Now I feel, as I think we all do, that I have lost a friend.

R.I.P.

--
Mike.E...@rl.ac.uk


btms

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Aug 31, 2000, 5:30:06 AM8/31/00
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Brenda Selwyn provoked me into replying by saying:

>Obviously this came as a great shock, as I know it will to others. I
>think it's true to say that we all loved Peter, and will miss him
>enormously.

What horrid, sad news. But thank you Brenda for letting us know so
promptly.

I hope umra might find a way to express their feelings to those closest to
him.
--
Linda Tame

Kate Lambert

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Aug 31, 2000, 9:30:26 AM8/31/00
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In article <p0csqscgut3ici9r2...@4ax.com>, Charles F
Hankel <cha...@hankel.freedombird.net> writes

>
>I couldn't have put it better myself. He was a nice chap with a sense of
>fun and humour that contributed to umra being the sort of group that it is.
>
A bloke who, on my mentioning in passing on umra that we were moving to
Bristol where we knew no-one at all, instantly invited us both to his
company's water-born pub crawl - at that point he'd never met either of
us. He was kind and generous and I'll miss him.

--
Kate Lambert

Tony Walton

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Aug 31, 2000, 10:33:42 AM8/31/00
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Brenda Selwyn wrote:
>
> This morning I received the following by e-mail from my ex-boss Tim
> King, who now lives near Mynyddbach. It was dated 30/08/00:
>
> |Sad news: Pete Hesketh was found dead in his bath yesterday morning.

Sad news indeed. It's not often I read something genuinely upsetting on
Usenet; this posting fell in that category.

>
> |He'll be missed here - please tell people in his newsgroups.

Thank you, Brenda. Thanks to Tim as well for thinking to pass this on.

>
> |Cause of death unknown but it appears it might be a brain haemorrhage (he
> |had a medical history pointing to this) or heart attack.

Oh NUGGER. Another one. My Dad had a stroke last Monday (21st) so I've
heard too much about strokes already over the past 10 days. Thankfully
Dad's on the road to recovery, though.


> Obviously this came as a great shock, as I know it will to others. I
> think it's true to say that we all loved Peter, and will miss him
> enormously.
>

> I am trying to find out details of the funeral, though I doubt I will
> be able to go - I'll get details as soon as I have them in case anyrat
> wants to go. Also I will try to find out where condolences etc should
> be sent.

Please add mine to the doubtless long list. He really will be missed.

--
Tony

anon...@firedrake.org

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Aug 31, 2000, 9:53:05 AM8/31/00
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In message <iq3sqs4j62m4ohltr...@4ax.com> Brenda M Selwyn wrote:

>This morning I received the following by e-mail from my ex-boss Tim
>King, who now lives near Mynyddbach. It was dated 30/08/00:
>
>|Sad news: Pete Hesketh was found dead in his bath yesterday morning.

It's always too soon to lose a friend, but this is _far_ too soon. Oh,
damn and waaaah. Peter was kind and interesting and I shall miss him. He
greeted me into umra when I first posted, and was just welcoming and
helpful and made me feel glad to have got here.

I don't think I want to talk about this right now. I'm going away to see
if I can find a balloon being flown over Bristol.

--

Weevil not here for a while.

Kate Brown

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Aug 31, 2000, 9:17:00 AM8/31/00
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This is awful news, Brenda. Please do let us know if messages are
appropriate.

Last year he sent me an extremely useful little program for a metronome
which I use a lot, and patiently explained to me - again and again, I am
not good at computers - how to make it work... I shall miss him.

And we never did go ballooning.

--
Kate B

London

Charles F Hankel

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Aug 31, 2000, 11:14:03 AM8/31/00
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I saw Charles F Hankel <cha...@hankel.freedombird.net> was spiking the
Home Farm sheep and muttering:

> > I am trying to find out details of the funeral, though I doubt I will
> > be able to go - I'll get details as soon as I have them in case anyrat
> > wants to go. Also I will try to find out where condolences etc should
> > be sent.
>

> Thanks for notifying us, Brenda. The latter will be useful - I may have an
> address here somewhere but am honestly too stunned by the news to think of
> exactly where it is.

Following on from this, I do indeed have the Hesketh postal address.
Anyone who wants it should e-mail me as it would still be irresponsible of
me to post it here despite the circumstances.

--

Charles F Hankel
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Hapless FAQer on the Wirral peninsula http://www.umra.org.uk
Member: Strombone 2000

Roger Burton West

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Aug 31, 2000, 11:24:23 AM8/31/00
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In article <iq3sqs4j62m4ohltr...@4ax.com>,

Brenda Selwyn <bre...@matson.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>This morning I received the following by e-mail from my ex-boss Tim
>King, who now lives near Mynyddbach. It was dated 30/08/00:

Roughly equal parts "waaah" and "oh nugger".

I'll raise one for you tonight, Peter.

R

Marian Bailey

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Aug 31, 2000, 12:54:28 PM8/31/00
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Awful news. I am so very sorry.


--
marian of surbiton


Linda Fox

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Aug 31, 2000, 12:53:21 PM8/31/00
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I feel very sad. I only met Pete the once, at this year's BBQ, and he
spoke to me as if I were an old friend: his warmth was memorable. Isn't
he the first umrat to pass on while still on active umrattery?

Pete, if you're listening, we'll remember you fondly, and we'll keep
umra as you would have wanted, irrelevant, irreverent, pithy and smutty,
and a bottomless well of unexpected knowledge.

love,


Robin and Linda ff, Ambridge

Mary Kemp

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Aug 31, 2000, 1:02:39 PM8/31/00
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In article <iq3sqs4j62m4ohltr...@4ax.com>, Brenda Selwyn
<URL:mailto:bre...@matson.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> This morning I received the following by e-mail from my ex-boss Tim
> King, who now lives near Mynyddbach. It was dated 30/08/00:
>
> |Sad news: Pete Hesketh was found dead in his bath yesterday morning.

> I am trying to find out details of the funeral, though I doubt I will
> be able to go - I'll get details as soon as I have them in case anyrat
> wants to go. Also I will try to find out where condolences etc should
> be sent.

Thank you for posting this Brenda. It came as a terrible shock and I have
been thinking about it all day, trying to cope with it.

Peter was not just one of our most regular and pithy posters, but a key
figure in the arrangements for the umra BBQ. I had met him several times
besides the BBQ and found him to be one of the kindest people I have met. He
came to my house one day with his chainsaw and sawed a huge stack of wood
that lasted me the winter. Another time he and Toodles carried my new washing
machine upstairs, from where the delivery men had dumped it, so that it could
be used. He used to forward me the summaries from Chris Harrison weekly
because my system could not receive it until recently.

Big man, big heart, big laugh. You will be sadly missed, Peter.

--
Mary SODAM. PISS Artiste. BTM (LSS), Golden Bog Brush Award
Legion d'umbrae (rouge knickers rampant, flashing) Cert F. Scots
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ma...@mickey.ajl-electronics.demon.co.uk

Marjorie Clarke

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Aug 31, 2000, 1:06:37 PM8/31/00
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This is awful. Not having got round to going to the barbecue, I'd never met
Peter, but we'd often exhanged messages, and I feel I know him for his
kindness and humour.

I'd been dipping in to umra somewhat randomly today, and had already sent
off some posts, of varying degrees of inappropriate levity, before I saw
Brenda's message.

I'll shut up for a bit now.


--
Marjorie Clarke


Min Lacey

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Aug 31, 2000, 1:09:52 PM8/31/00
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In article <wZGSzGDy...@semaphore.demon.co.uk>, Kate Lambert
<ka...@semaphore.demon.co.uk> used the electronic medium to say....
A bloke who spent evenings in the Exmouth with us and never failed to
make a new friend. I shall miss him as well, and today is a very sad
day for us all.
--
Min

Al Menzies

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Aug 31, 2000, 1:57:14 PM8/31/00
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On Thu, 31 Aug 2000 09:03:11 +0100, the nimble fingers of Brenda
Selwyn dashed across the keyboard to create this message:

>This morning I received the following by e-mail from my ex-boss Tim
>King, who now lives near Mynyddbach. It was dated 30/08/00:
>
>|Sad news: Pete Hesketh was found dead in his bath yesterday morning.

I can add no more to what others have said.

A fine fellow. I'll miss him.

al

Enid Dobson

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Aug 31, 2000, 2:19:10 PM8/31/00
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Like everyone else, I'm gutted. His "Hello my lovely" and unfailing humour
will be missed.
Enid


Nobby Bates

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Aug 31, 2000, 2:37:31 PM8/31/00
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On Thu, 31 Aug 2000 09:03:11 +0100, Brenda Selwyn
<bre...@matson.demon.co.uk> wrote:

Terrible news

Nobby

Fenny

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Aug 31, 2000, 2:56:38 PM8/31/00
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In article <iq3sqs4j62m4ohltr...@4ax.com>,
bre...@matson.demon.co.uk says...

> I am trying to find out details of the funeral, though I doubt I will
> be able to go - I'll get details as soon as I have them in case anyrat
> wants to go. Also I will try to find out where condolences etc should
> be sent.

I've not been paying much attention to umra of late, but this is
possiblty the worst news I've heard in a long time. I will remember
Peter as the lovely and welcoming man I met on a couple pof umra
occasions and will miss his contributions here greatly.
--
Fenny

Aut id devorabis amabisque, aut cras prandebis... "You'll eat it and
like it, or have it for breakfast tomorrow"

Brenda Selwyn

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Aug 31, 2000, 3:02:41 PM8/31/00
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>Brenda Selwyn <bre...@matson.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>This morning I received the following by e-mail from my ex-boss Tim
>King, who now lives near Mynyddbach. It was dated 30/08/00:

>|He'll be missed here - please tell people in his newsgroups.

I know from Tim that he was a leading light of the
Mynyddbach/Shirenewton social scene (at one time he maintained the
village webpage). Tim & his wife went to the pub with him regularly.
So I'm sure he'll be much missed over there. Finding out that he knew
Tim was one of those "life's amazing coincidences" things. I'd left
Tim's employ some years before though we'd kept in touch. I'd known
Peter for some time through umra before we realised that we had a
mutual friend.

>I am trying to find out details of the funeral, though I doubt I will
>be able to go - I'll get details as soon as I have them in case anyrat
>wants to go. Also I will try to find out where condolences etc should
>be sent.

It has just occured to me that it might be a good idea to send a joint
card on behalf of umra. I'd be happy to organise this if folks think
it's a good idea. It wouldn't preclude those who knew him well from
sending their own condolences of course. It would be my intention to
include a brief letter trying to sum up how we all felt about Peter
and how we will remember him. If you think it's a good idea and
you've any special thoughts or memories of Peter that you'd like
included, please mail me (equally if you don't think it's a good idea,
please let me know).

>I don't know which other groups Peter subscribed to. I will try to
>find out through Deja, but if anyone subscribes to any of them and
>wants to pass on the sad news (rather than me do it as a stranger),
>please let me know.

Charles has dealt with all this, and to him I extend my thanks. The
list of groups he supplied reveals Peter's eclectic taste, ranging
from caravanning to Ivor Cutler.

This morning I was ready to post a lot of inane stuff about Sid,
Kathy, Emma & Shula, but it all seems somehow irrelevant now. But I
am off now to listen to The Archers, as I think Peter would want us
all to. And I hope, after a suitable pause, we can all get back to
normal service without feeling bad about it, as I feel he also would
have wanted.

Brenda

--
***************************************************************
Brenda M Selwyn
Nr Bath, North East Somerset
bre...@matson.demon.co.uk
http://www.matson.demon.co.uk/brenda.htm

Brenda Selwyn

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Aug 31, 2000, 3:02:46 PM8/31/00
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>Linda Fox <li...@fox.freedombird.net> wrote:

>I feel very sad. I only met Pete the once, at this year's BBQ, and he
>spoke to me as if I were an old friend: his warmth was memorable. Isn't
>he the first umrat to pass on while still on active umrattery?

As far as we know, though I do wonder about those who just stop
posting. One never knows what has happened to them. We found out
about Peter because he was so active in umra and he and I happened to
have a mutual friend, but for someone on the perifery of the group, we
might never know:-(

Elizabeth

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Aug 31, 2000, 2:18:23 PM8/31/00
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Ruth Morrow <r.mo...@mcmail.com> wrote:

>Terrible news:-(( What an appalling shock. My heart goes out to his
>family.

>Ruth


As does mine,what a nice man he will be missed

Elizabeth


Robin Somes

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Aug 31, 2000, 3:07:17 PM8/31/00
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In article <39AE8D81...@fox.freedombird.net>, Linda Fox
<li...@fox.freedombird.net> writes

Summed it up perfectly for me, Linda; thank you. Pete was the reason I
joined umra last year. In fact he announced in umra that I was arriving,
before I knew the ng even existed. From the first, his warmth and wit
astounded me.

Only met him for a few minutes at the McToodles BBQ - just long enough
to give him a big pile of cast-off 'New Scientist' magazines, and
register the huge grin of utter glee with which he received them. That
memory's going to stay for a very long time....

bl**dy sad now.

snuffle.
--
EMU & RHEUM

www.badminston.demon.co.uk www.robinsomes.co.uk/guitar.html
www.blackwell-science.com/southwood

Trust me, I'm a webmaster......

Jennifer

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Aug 31, 2000, 3:30:15 PM8/31/00
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I think that's an excellent idea. From personal experience I know
that just having somebody acknowledge what has happened is a comfort.
I still cherish the cards I got after my bereavement, some from people
I hardly knew. As to a brief letter summing up how you felt about
him, you can do no better than print off all of these posts. They say
it all.

Did I meet Peter at this years BBQ? Was he the guy who turned up in
a t-shirt and got changed into shirt and tie, or was it the other way
round...

Jen

Sebastian Lisken

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Aug 31, 2000, 3:43:21 PM8/31/00
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Brenda Selwyn <bre...@matson.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> |Sad news: Pete Hesketh was found dead [...] yesterday morning.

How very sad.

Of course I haven't met Peter, having not been to Britain ever
since I have been posting to UMRA, but from my visits to the
group I had a definite impression of him as a nice and helpful
man. What a shame I never made it to any BBQs or the like, as
he was one of the people I would have wanted to meet there.

Next to the good things others have pointed out about him (very
appropriately I'd say) I want to remind us that he ran one of
the more special Archers net resources out there, the Archers
Chronology, together with its email driven search facility.
The database underlying it is still there on his website. Just
one of the many ways in which he gave a lot of good to this
particular place. I will miss him.

Sebastian

Siderius Nuncius

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Aug 31, 2000, 2:53:59 PM8/31/00
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Brenda Selwyn wrote in message ...

>This morning I received the following by e-mail from my ex-boss Tim
>King, who now lives near Mynyddbach. It was dated 30/08/00:
>
>|Sad news: Pete Hesketh was found dead in his bath yesterday morning.
>

I am terribly upset to hear this. What a lovely chap, and a flower of umra.

I am reminded of the bit from Donne's Holy Sonnet x:

.... those whom thou think'st thou dost overthrow
Die not, poor Death, nor yet canst thou kill me.
From rest and sleep, which but thy pictures be
Much pleasure - then, from thee much more must flow
And soonest our best men with thee do go,
Rest of their bones and soul's delivery....

Go well, Peter.
--
Sid
Shepherds Bush, West London


Serena Blanchflower

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Aug 31, 2000, 4:29:54 PM8/31/00
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Brenda Selwyn wrote:
>
> It has just occured to me that it might be a good idea to send a joint
> card on behalf of umra. I'd be happy to organise this if folks think
> it's a good idea. It wouldn't preclude those who knew him well from
> sending their own condolences of course. It would be my intention to
> include a brief letter trying to sum up how we all felt about Peter
> and how we will remember him. If you think it's a good idea and
> you've any special thoughts or memories of Peter that you'd like
> included, please mail me (equally if you don't think it's a good idea,
> please let me know).
>

Brenda, I think that would be a lovely idea. I think all the posts in
his memory would be a very good starting point for you. Thanks for
offering to do this on our behalf.

--
Serena

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http://www.thehungersite.com

Robin Parkinson

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Aug 31, 2000, 5:51:27 PM8/31/00
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Terrible news. I never met him face-to-face, having never made it to a BBQ
but I still feel like a friend has been lost. Please pass on my condolences.

- Robin.

--
Trout: Slightly fishy but never coarse. http://www.troutmag.org

sandy brown

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Aug 31, 2000, 4:02:59 PM8/31/00
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A lovely man who took so much trouble to make sure that I got my
Tshirt in time for my weekend with the Archers in April .
He sent me the nicest email Ive ever had which began
Sandy my love ...... and even rang me to make sure Id got the parcel.


Goodnight Peter

Love Sandy

Neil Hopkins

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Aug 31, 2000, 5:11:32 PM8/31/00
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Oh.

Sad news indeed.

Peter, wherever you may be now, you will be sadly missed.

Nothing more to say.

neil h.

Chris McMillan

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Aug 31, 2000, 4:15:32 PM8/31/00
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In article <r85ysNAe...@paul.freeserve.co.uk>, btms
<URL:mailto:Li...@reflect.fsbusiness.co.uk> wrote:
>
> What horrid, sad news. But thank you Brenda for letting us know so
> promptly.
>
> I hope umra might find a way to express their feelings to those closest to
> him.

We have an address (I've got it here as well as Charles.) How about
collecting up all these tributes and sending them to Mrs. Hesketh. I was
also thinking it would be an easier way for Chuckler's reader/s to tell
Chuckler what's been said about Peter.

Any thoughts?

RIP, Peter.

Chris

--
Mrs. Chris McMillan. Tel. 0118 926 5450. e-mail:
ch...@mikesounds.demon.co.uk http://www.mikesounds.demon.co.uk/

mholcroft

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Aug 31, 2000, 5:39:46 PM8/31/00
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Oh dear. I'm so very sorry about this.

Peter is terribly hard to lose, but he's sure to be getting the most fun
out of whatever comes next and I'm very glad to have known him

michelle

--
mholcroft

badriya

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Aug 31, 2000, 5:56:27 PM8/31/00
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On Thu, 31 Aug 2000 21:29:54 +0100, Serena Blanchflower
<ser...@sblanchflower.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

>Brenda Selwyn wrote:
>>
>> It has just occured to me that it might be a good idea to send a joint
>> card on behalf of umra. I'd be happy to organise this if folks think
>> it's a good idea. It wouldn't preclude those who knew him well from
>> sending their own condolences of course. It would be my intention to
>> include a brief letter trying to sum up how we all felt about Peter
>> and how we will remember him. If you think it's a good idea and
>> you've any special thoughts or memories of Peter that you'd like
>> included, please mail me (equally if you don't think it's a good idea,
>> please let me know).
>>
>
>Brenda, I think that would be a lovely idea. I think all the posts in
>his memory would be a very good starting point for you. Thanks for
>offering to do this on our behalf.


I think that is a nice idea too. I don' t feel I knew him well enough
to send something just from me, but would like to think I can express
my regret as a part of this group.


Vicky -
--

Andy Taylor

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Aug 31, 2000, 6:00:02 PM8/31/00
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In article <iq3sqs4j62m4ohltr...@4ax.com>, Brenda Selwyn
<bre...@matson.demon.co.uk> writes

>|Sad news: Pete Hesketh was found dead in his bath yesterday morning.
>
>|He'll be missed here - please tell people in his newsgroups.
>

I never met Peter, but I knew him through his contributions to UMRA and
considered him a friend (as I do all of you lot). He will be missed.
I offer my condolences to his family and to those who knew him well.
--
Andy Taylor, FAQing about in Westfield, East Sussex
Witty quote removed by popular demand

Fenny

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Aug 31, 2000, 6:10:55 PM8/31/00
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In article <8omcgp$b5du8$1...@fu-berlin.de>, Sebastian.Lisken@Uni-
Bielefeld.DE says...

>
> Next to the good things others have pointed out about him (very
> appropriately I'd say) I want to remind us that he ran one of
> the more special Archers net resources out there, the Archers
> Chronology, together with its email driven search facility.
> The database underlying it is still there on his website. Just
> one of the many ways in which he gave a lot of good to this
> particular place. I will miss him.
>
>
I was wondering about this. Will the site stay there, or will we need
to copy it to another location? I would hate to lose all the work that
Peter had done.

And if nobody else has thought of it, I might put up a page on my site
with about Peter. If you have any photos that you think would go well
or would like to write anything for me to include, mail them to me and I
will start work on it next week. We met him through the web and it
seems like a fitting place to collect and store our memories.

Fran Watkins

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Aug 31, 2000, 6:26:13 PM8/31/00
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"Andy Taylor" <an...@azande.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:S3wh$KAiVt...@azande.demon.co.uk...

> In article <iq3sqs4j62m4ohltr...@4ax.com>, Brenda Selwyn
> <bre...@matson.demon.co.uk> writes
> >|Sad news: Pete Hesketh was found dead in his bath yesterday morning.
> >
> >|He'll be missed here - please tell people in his newsgroups.
> >
As someone who never met him except through his postings in the newsgroup
and now wishes they had, as the above postings convey such a wonderfull
image of a man. Please add my condolences to those of the rest of the
group.

Fran


Tim Hall

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Aug 31, 2000, 6:25:14 PM8/31/00
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On Thu, 31 Aug 2000 09:03:11 +0100, Brenda Selwyn
<bre...@matson.demon.co.uk> wrote:


>|Sad news: Pete Hesketh was found dead in his bath yesterday morning.
>

Oh no.


I never met Peter, yet I feel a great loss.

My thoughts go to his family.

Tim

Robin Somes

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Aug 31, 2000, 4:47:19 PM8/31/00
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In article <39AEC042...@sblanchflower.freeserve.co.uk>, Serena
Blanchflower <ser...@sblanchflower.freeserve.co.uk> writes

Brenda writes:

> It would be my intention to
>> include a brief letter trying to sum up how we all felt about Peter
>> and how we will remember him. If you think it's a good idea and
>> you've any special thoughts or memories of Peter that you'd like
>> included, please mail me (equally if you don't think it's a good idea,
>> please let me know).
>>
>
>Brenda, I think that would be a lovely idea. I think all the posts in
>his memory would be a very good starting point for you. Thanks for
>offering to do this on our behalf.

Super idea, well done.


cheers,
robin

nick odell

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Aug 31, 2000, 6:35:38 PM8/31/00
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On Thu, 31 Aug 2000 09:03:11 +0100, Brenda Selwyn
<bre...@matson.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>|Sad news: Pete Hesketh was found dead in his bath yesterday morning.
>

I can't really add anything to the beautiful things people have
already said about someone I'd never met but who I knew was a lovely
man.

So: me too.

Nick
--
real e-mail is (all one word) themusicworkshop at cwcom.net

Stephen

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Aug 31, 2000, 7:33:54 PM8/31/00
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What awful news to come home to. No more Mynyddbach, no more
adventures with balloons. I shall try to think of him not as gone for
ever, but currently without news access at Nelson's Paradise Island.

--
Stephen

"Yes, cider and tinned salmon are the staple diet of the agricultural classes."
Evelyn Waugh, Scoop

Charles F Hankel

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Aug 31, 2000, 7:33:27 PM8/31/00
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I saw jen...@hotmail.com (Jennifer) was spiking the Home Farm sheep and
muttering:

> Did I meet Peter at this years BBQ? Was he the guy who turned up in
> a t-shirt and got changed into shirt and tie, or was it the other way
> round...

That's the chap. Shirt-and-tie to t-shirt IIRC.

--

Charles F Hankel
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Hapless FAQer on the Wirral peninsula http://www.umra.org.uk
Member: Strombone 2000

Charles F Hankel

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Aug 31, 2000, 8:02:27 PM8/31/00
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I saw ne...@rickmansworth.invalid.co.uk (Fenny) was spiking the Home Farm
sheep and muttering:

> In article <8omcgp$b5du8$1...@fu-berlin.de>, Sebastian.Lisken@Uni-


> Bielefeld.DE says...
> >
> > Next to the good things others have pointed out about him (very
> > appropriately I'd say) I want to remind us that he ran one of
> > the more special Archers net resources out there, the Archers
> > Chronology, together with its email driven search facility.
> > The database underlying it is still there on his website. Just
> > one of the many ways in which he gave a lot of good to this
> > particular place. I will miss him.
> >
> >
> I was wondering about this. Will the site stay there, or will we need
> to copy it to another location? I would hate to lose all the work that
> Peter had done.

There's no immediate danger of his website disappearing. It's also
supporting his parish church. I guess it all depends on Demon, when his
next subscription falls due (ISTR that Peter paid annually) and how quickly
they act when a subscription becomes overdue. I'm hoping to put Plan A
(Green Tweed Version) into action before that happens; it's all a bit early
for the practical side of things to take over.

Part of the plans for the umraFAQ 2000 site was, and still is, to offer
webspace for umratic sites that can't for some reason be maintained where
they are at present. Oddly enough, Peter was one of the people that I
mentioned this to and was in favour of it, in principle.

Obviously I never envisaged that the need to do this would arise so soon,
let alone that it would be Peter's site that would be first. I really had
nobody in particular in mind at all..

The offer is open to anyone BTW. As some of you may be aware, I don't have
any particular difficulties with webspace limits so none of this would be
an imposition if it means keeping everything umratic up and running.



> And if nobody else has thought of it, I might put up a page on my site
> with about Peter. If you have any photos that you think would go well
> or would like to write anything for me to include, mail them to me and I
> will start work on it next week. We met him through the web and it
> seems like a fitting place to collect and store our memories.

Yes, my thoughts too. I've been thinking of doing this myself but please
do go right ahead and I'll include a link from umraFAQ 2000. There's a few
pictures of him at the BBQs which is probably how many of us remember Peter
physically.

Simon Townley

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Aug 31, 2000, 9:00:26 PM8/31/00
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In article <8om7o4$ion$4...@news.airtime.co.uk>, numb...@freedombird.net
(Elizabeth) wrote:

He was a damn good bloke.

Called to the celestial BBQ too soon. They'll have been running low on
GOS, or beer, or bonhomie.

We should think of practical ways to express condolences to his family. I
think the idea of a umra card is a good start - mass flowers/donations
would be in order - and please, no-one think twice about sending snail
mail! As soon as there's an address (assuming anyone apart from Peter can
spell it) - folk should write. On paper, with pens. It ain't easy, but
it's the best thing you can do for someone. PH would have.

--
Simon Townley

Ian Wilson

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Sep 1, 2000, 3:11:16 AM9/1/00
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I never met Peter but felt that I knew him very well from his long time
contributions to UMRA and from the many photos of him at the BBQs.
His "Higgs" chauffeuring of the train travellers in 1998 and the
'Lambing Caravan' in 1999 come easily to mind.

It was only a couple of months ago that I contacted him to see if there
was on update for my copy of the original 'chronarc' file which I
downloaded when it first went up. He was absolutely delighted to hear
this from me as he had apparently had some sort of local disk disaster
and lost a chunk of this file. After I had sent him a copy of the
original file he mentioned that he had arranged to have it updated and
promised to let me know when this had happened.

I offer my condolences to his family and to all those who knew him well
he will be very sadly missed.

--
Ian Wilson
Leamington Spa, Warwickshire, UK

Brenda Selwyn

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Sep 1, 2000, 3:37:49 AM9/1/00
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>Charles F Hankel <cha...@hankel.freedombird.net> wrote:

>There's no immediate danger of his website disappearing. It's also
>supporting his parish church. I guess it all depends on Demon, when his
>next subscription falls due (ISTR that Peter paid annually) and how quickly
>they act when a subscription becomes overdue. I'm hoping to put Plan A
>(Green Tweed Version) into action before that happens; it's all a bit early
>for the practical side of things to take over.

I might be interested in taking it on, but I need to have a serious
think about it. If, as you say, there is no danger of its imminent
disappearance, perhaps we can think about this later.

>Fenny wrote:

>> And if nobody else has thought of it, I might put up a page on my site
>> with about Peter. If you have any photos that you think would go well
>> or would like to write anything for me to include, mail them to me and I
>> will start work on it next week. We met him through the web and it
>> seems like a fitting place to collect and store our memories.

An excellent idea.

Brenda Selwyn

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Sep 1, 2000, 3:37:25 AM9/1/00
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>Serena Blanchflower <ser...@sblanchflower.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

>Brenda Selwyn wrote:
>>
>> It has just occured to me that it might be a good idea to send a joint
>> card on behalf of umra. I'd be happy to organise this if folks think
>> it's a good idea. It wouldn't preclude those who knew him well from
>> sending their own condolences of course. It would be my intention to
>> include a brief letter trying to sum up how we all felt about Peter
>> and how we will remember him. If you think it's a good idea and
>> you've any special thoughts or memories of Peter that you'd like
>> included, please mail me (equally if you don't think it's a good idea,
>> please let me know).
>>
>
>Brenda, I think that would be a lovely idea. I think all the posts in
>his memory would be a very good starting point for you. Thanks for
>offering to do this on our behalf.

Several people have now suggested this. So this is what I currently
intend to do. I will go out tomorrow and get a suitable card. I will
print off all the tributes and condolences received and enclose them
with the card. I will give it a few more days in case not everyone
has heard the news yet (has Heather been told, and does anyone know
how to get in touch with AJW?) then I will send it all off to the
address provided by Charles.

Some people have suggested a wreath. I will be happy to organise this
if appropriate, but as yet I have no details of the funeral - it may
be "family flowers only". If donations are to be requested instead, I
don't yet know what to. This will also all be easier when we know the
date of the funeral - I have asked Tim by e-mail to let me know all
this but he has not got back to me yet.

Brenda Selwyn

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Sep 1, 2000, 3:37:19 AM9/1/00
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>si...@sudbury.demon.co.uk (Simon Townley) wrote:

>We should think of practical ways to express condolences to his family. I
>think the idea of a umra card is a good start - mass flowers/donations
>would be in order - and please, no-one think twice about sending snail
>mail! As soon as there's an address (assuming anyone apart from Peter can
>spell it) - folk should write. On paper, with pens. It ain't easy, but
>it's the best thing you can do for someone. PH would have.

I know that different people feel differently about these things, but
if it were me I wouldn't wish to be inundated with flowers or
individual items of mail from people I do not know. Several people
have suggested we collect up our condolences and send them together -
please see another post of mine in this thread.

Ruth Morrow

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Sep 1, 2000, 4:01:12 AM9/1/00
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Brenda Selwyn wrote:


> I will give it a few more days in case not everyone
> has heard the news yet (has Heather been told, and does anyone know
> how to get in touch with AJW?)

I spoke to AJW on the phone yesterday. He was extremely upset at the
news, of course, and asked to be kept informed of what arrangements are
being made. I have his snailmail address in Newcastle as, no doubt,
other umrats have too. He will be there as from later on today and
I'll drop him a line to let him know what you're doing, Brenda. He
will want to be included.

Ruth

Roger Burton West

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Sep 1, 2000, 4:03:29 AM9/1/00
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In article <bsqtqscskke1gjj1j...@4ax.com>,

Charles F Hankel <um...@hankel.freedombird.net> wrote:

>I'm hoping to put Plan A
>(Green Tweed Version) into action before that happens; it's all a bit early
>for the practical side of things to take over.

I've made a backup of www.phesk.demon.co.uk just in case; I've worked
for Demon, and sometimes they do odd things. Anyrat who wants a copy,
let me know; it's a shade over 5 megabytes compressed.

Roger

sljh

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Sep 1, 2000, 5:12:54 AM9/1/00
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In article <ant31203...@mikesounds.demon.co.uk>, Chris McMillan
<Ch...@mikesounds.demon.co.uk> writes

>We have an address (I've got it here as well as Charles.) How about
>collecting up all these tributes and sending them to Mrs. Hesketh.

For what it's worth, I think this is a good idea. The one thing that
shocked me most when I lost my father as suddenly as Peter went, was the
fact that one minute he was there, living and vibrant and overnight it
was like he never existed. Life goes on all around you unchanged... I
felt desolate for him, as though his life wasn't in the least important
at all.

Mrs. Hesketh may well not feel like reading 1001 notes from people she
doesn't know at this precise time, but as the months go on, she may well
get solace from reading the letters and cards, proof (for want of a
better word) that Peter touched so many people during his lifetime.

Having never attended a BBQ, I never met Peter in person, but I have
lurked on this newsgroup for many years before posting and the names and
screen-personas of the people on this group are entangled in my life. I
went cold when I read the news of Peter's death. My heart goes out to
Mrs. Hesketh, I know the shock such a sudden death can cause.

There will be a vase of carnations next to my computer this week in
Peter's memory.
--
sljh

Charles F Hankel

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Sep 1, 2000, 7:31:48 AM9/1/00
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I saw Brenda Selwyn <bre...@matson.demon.co.uk> was spiking the Home Farm
sheep and muttering:

> >si...@sudbury.demon.co.uk (Simon Townley) wrote:


>
> >We should think of practical ways to express condolences to his family. I
> >think the idea of a umra card is a good start - mass flowers/donations
> >would be in order - and please, no-one think twice about sending snail
> >mail! As soon as there's an address (assuming anyone apart from Peter can
> >spell it) - folk should write. On paper, with pens. It ain't easy, but
> >it's the best thing you can do for someone. PH would have.
>
> I know that different people feel differently about these things, but
> if it were me I wouldn't wish to be inundated with flowers or
> individual items of mail from people I do not know. Several people
> have suggested we collect up our condolences and send them together -
> please see another post of mine in this thread.

I've been in the situation myself when my father died, leaving me alone in
the world, so to speak. I was only 22 at the time and was touched by the
number of people who thought enough to write, even some people who would
also have seen me in the street. The number of people who turned up for
his funeral was also extremely comforting; I'd really only expected
relatives and maybe a handful of others and the crematorium chapel
(large-sih) was full to overcapacity. I don't think there was a dry eye in
house when the trumpeter (sent by the regimental association) played Last
Post. There certainly isn't here now as I remember this once more almost
three decades later.

The really hard task is actually writing letters, or making phone calls, to
tell people what has happened. Somehow face to face was easier, just a
simple "Dad died" set the scene sufficiently well for the rest of the
conversation to be sensible.

LizJ

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Sep 1, 2000, 8:56:08 AM9/1/00
to
Mary Kemp wrote:

> Big man, big heart, big laugh. You will be sadly missed, Peter.
>

And every time I see a ballon up I shall think of him.

Liz


LizJ

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Sep 1, 2000, 8:58:26 AM9/1/00
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Brenda Selwyn wrote:

> I am trying to find out details of the funeral, though I doubt I will
> be able to go - I'll get details as soon as I have them in case anyrat
> wants to go. Also I will try to find out where condolences etc should
> be sent.

I know that I have already replied to your message Brenda, but reading through
the messages on this thread perhaps they could be collected and sent to his
wife as a 'book of rememberence'.

Liz


Kirsten Procter

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Sep 1, 2000, 10:47:50 AM9/1/00
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In article <ojmuqsc7gqr4g9jdd...@4ax.com>,
Brenda Selwyn <bre...@matson.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>>Serena Blanchflower <ser...@sblanchflower.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>Brenda, I think that would be a lovely idea. I think all the posts in
>>his memory would be a very good starting point for you. Thanks for
>>offering to do this on our behalf.
Seconded

>
>Several people have now suggested this. So this is what I currently
>intend to do. I will go out tomorrow and get a suitable card. I will
>print off all the tributes and condolences received and enclose them
>with the card. I will give it a few more days in case not everyone
>has heard the news yet (has Heather been told, and does anyone know
>how to get in touch with AJW?) then I will send it all off to the
>address provided by Charles.
>
>Some people have suggested a wreath. I will be happy to organise this
>if appropriate, but as yet I have no details of the funeral - it may
>be "family flowers only". If donations are to be requested instead, I
>don't yet know what to. This will also all be easier when we know the
>date of the funeral - I have asked Tim by e-mail to let me know all
>this but he has not got back to me yet.
Keep us informed, please.

Totally shocking news - I've only met him once, but he was so welcoming
and openhearted and - well, you know, don't you? He was so young for this
to happen, though, was he not?

He will be missed by all, which is quite an achievement in some ways.

Kirsten, not knowing quite what to say
--
Kirsten Procter ghoti
Fast falls the eventide

Penny Mayes

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Sep 1, 2000, 11:20:41 AM9/1/00
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We didn't always see eye to eye but I too will always think of Peter as a
kind and big-hearted friend. I shall always remember him as I first saw
him outside the Three Guineas, dressed in chauffeur's cap and clutching a
hand written sign reading 'Grey Gables' (Higgs being a non-speaking part)
and then his childish glee over the bag of goodies which Min had brought
for him (wasn't there a water pistol?). All this before he whisked us off
to the BBQ in the 'Bentley' (complete with jar of marmalade on the back
seat).

He will be sadly missed.

Penny

I've tried to give them up. But I'm back on the sigs again.
umra Nicknames & Abbreviations http://www.bigwig.net/umra/nicks.html


Glynn & Kathy Greenwood

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Sep 1, 2000, 1:34:10 PM9/1/00
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The world will be a poorer place without him.

--
Glynn, Kathy, and Richard Greenwood

Chris McMillan

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Sep 1, 2000, 10:59:17 AM9/1/00
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In article <39AEC042...@sblanchflower.freeserve.co.uk>,
Serena Blanchflower <URL:mailto:ser...@sblanchflower.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

> Brenda Selwyn wrote:
> >
> Brenda, I think that would be a lovely idea. I think all the posts in
> his memory would be a very good starting point for you. Thanks for
> offering to do this on our behalf.
>
On the basis of having to wait someone else's pleasure to get stuff sent out
to the world, I'm sending Brenda everything I've got for now and will
follow up with any others as and when.

Sincerely, Chris

--
Mrs. Chris McMillan. Tel. 0118 926 5450. e-mail:
ch...@mikesounds.demon.co.uk http://www.mikesounds.demon.co.uk/

Chris McMillan

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Sep 1, 2000, 10:51:34 AM9/1/00
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In article <8omcgp$b5du8$1...@fu-berlin.de>, Sebastian Lisken

<URL:mailto:Sebastia...@Uni-Bielefeld.DE> wrote:
> Brenda Selwyn <bre...@matson.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> > |Sad news: Pete Hesketh was found dead [...] yesterday morning.

>
> Next to the good things others have pointed out about him (very
> appropriately I'd say) I want to remind us that he ran one of
> the more special Archers net resources out there, the Archers
> Chronology, together with its email driven search facility.
> The database underlying it is still there on his website. Just
> one of the many ways in which he gave a lot of good to this
> particular place.
>
As I don't have the means to do anything about this excellent site I
mentioned its existence to Chankle and Andy the FAQ-ers. I'll let Andy
put his suggestion which I wholeheartedly agree with - and would be a
lasting memorial to Hesky.

Chris McMillan

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Sep 1, 2000, 10:44:09 AM9/1/00
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In article <kuatqsgh9kcmero7f...@4ax.com>, Brenda Selwyn
<URL:mailto:bre...@matson.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> >Linda Fox <li...@fox.freedombird.net> wrote:
>

> As far as we know, though I do wonder about those who just stop
> posting. One never knows what has happened to them.
>
Some of these who were bbq people I still maintain a sporadic link with, but
not all. There are certain people who used to post here, and have been to
bbqs that I have told of Peter's death.

When Chuckler's more her old self I'd like her to know what's been happening
and so I've kept the snippets of this thread, how about if Brenda used
these? It had crossed my mind to do this myself if Brenda has no time next
week.

BrritSki

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Sep 1, 2000, 1:54:09 PM9/1/00
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I only met Peter briefly at last year's BBQ and now I wish I'd been
able to spend more time with him and get to know him better. Always
enjoyed his posts though and will think of him next time I'm in
Denmark.

Condolences to all his family and friends.

Roger


Al Menzies

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Sep 1, 2000, 3:25:59 PM9/1/00
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On Thu, 31 Aug 2000 10:52:26 GMT, the nimble fingers of Stephen GC
Tilley dashed across the keyboard to create this message:

>It is sad when those who enjoy life are robbed of it early.

It can help to see it not as a life interrupted, but as a life
complete.

al

Mike McMillan

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Sep 1, 2000, 4:47:47 PM9/1/00
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In article <hoqtqs8ea8u5rdrd6...@4ax.com>, Charles F Hankel

<URL:mailto:cha...@hankel.freedombird.net> wrote:
> I saw jen...@hotmail.com (Jennifer) was spiking the Home Farm sheep and
> muttering:
>
> > Did I meet Peter at this years BBQ? Was he the guy who turned up in
> > a t-shirt and got changed into shirt and tie, or was it the other way
> > round...
>
> That's the chap. Shirt-and-tie to t-shirt IIRC.
>

Peter arrived in t-shirt and unloaded all the goodies, help set up the
barbecue stand, chairs, tables, bottles, and all sorts of other things.
Peter made sure we were well and truly set up and in need of nothing more
before he dissappeared to our bathroom and reappeared in a suit! After
returning from the firm's 'do' at Newbury, Peter transformed back into the
t-shirted jovial friend we will remember him as.

I did not respond yesterday as I didn't think I could add anything to the
message Chris had sent; this will be my only posting tonight too. I will get
back to UMRA, perhaps on Sunday; such a great loss to UMRA and the world.

Mike

--
Mike McMillan, Mike Sounds (Reading)
Digital Recording, Editing and CD Production: Tel: 0118 9265450,
Fax: 0118 9668167. http://www.mikesounds.demon.co.uk/

Rosalind Mitchell

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Sep 2, 2000, 1:41:06 AM9/2/00
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This news has come as a terrible shock. I would very much like to associate
myself with all umratic condolences. Peter was a lovely man with a heart of
gold and was very much part of the unique and welcoming atmosphere of UMRA. He
will be sadly missed here.

Rosie

martin clark

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Sep 1, 2000, 6:19:01 PM9/1/00
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I may be imagining things, but I thought Brenda Selwyn muttered
something about...
>
>Pete Hesketh

I don't know what to say. I am very stunned.

I feel I must re-de-lurk as I cannot ignore this thread.

I never met Peter, as many of you did, but as a character in umra, he
was very real to me. He sent me a message once after spotting a message
of mine on uk.local.nw-england although I don't think he posted there
very often.

Even with my erratic and second-class (i.e: non-BBQ-attending)
membership of umra, he took time out to respond personally to me.

Even though I never had the pleasure of his company in person, I enjoyed
his contributions to umra and the world will be an emptier place without
him.
--
Martin

Simon Townley

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Sep 1, 2000, 7:15:50 PM9/1/00
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In article <p4nuqson8ngqghaun...@4ax.com>, Brenda Selwyn
<bre...@matson.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> I know that different people feel differently about these things, but
> if it were me I wouldn't wish to be inundated with flowers or
> individual items of mail from people I do not know. Several people
> have suggested we collect up our condolences and send them together -
> please see another post of mine in this thread.

Brenda - thank you. Yes, I have seen your other post, and please count me
in for whatever better people (ie yourself) can organise.

--
Simon Townley

Ian Wilson

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Sep 2, 2000, 3:35:22 AM9/2/00
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In article <ojmuqsc7gqr4g9jdd...@4ax.com>, Brenda Selwyn
<bre...@matson.demon.co.uk> writes

>>Serena Blanchflower <ser...@sblanchflower.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>Brenda, I think that would be a lovely idea. I think all the posts in
>>his memory would be a very good starting point for you. Thanks for
>>offering to do this on our behalf.
>
>Several people have now suggested this. So this is what I currently
>intend to do. I will go out tomorrow and get a suitable card. I will
>print off all the tributes and condolences received and enclose them
>with the card. I will give it a few more days in case not everyone
>has heard the news yet (has Heather been told, and does anyone know
>how to get in touch with AJW?) then I will send it all off to the
>address provided by Charles.
>
>Some people have suggested a wreath. I will be happy to organise this
>if appropriate, but as yet I have no details of the funeral - it may
>be "family flowers only". If donations are to be requested instead, I
>don't yet know what to. This will also all be easier when we know the
>date of the funeral - I have asked Tim by e-mail to let me know all
>this but he has not got back to me yet.
>
Brenda,
I totally agree with you... Please include in any group contributions
etc.

Brenda Selwyn

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Sep 2, 2000, 4:08:20 AM9/2/00
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>Ruth Morrow <r.mo...@mcmail.com> wrote:

>I spoke to AJW on the phone yesterday. He was extremely upset at the
>news, of course, and asked to be kept informed of what arrangements are
>being made. I have his snailmail address in Newcastle as, no doubt,
>other umrats have too. He will be there as from later on today and
>I'll drop him a line to let him know what you're doing, Brenda. He
>will want to be included.

Thank you.

What about John Gilliver? He posted here recently, and so might not
be back for some time. I will e-mail him if no-one else has done so.

Brenda Selwyn

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Sep 2, 2000, 4:24:30 AM9/2/00
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>Brenda Selwyn <bre...@matson.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>This morning I received the following by e-mail from my ex-boss Tim
>King, who now lives near Mynyddbach. It was dated 30/08/00:


>
>|Sad news: Pete Hesketh was found dead [...] yesterday morning.
>

>|He'll be missed here

I've just received another mail from Tim King, including the
following:

|Just has a quick look at umra and amazed at all the people who "knew" or had
|really met Peter - I'll pass this on to his other group of non umra friends.

|Your idea about putting the postings in card is great.

|His daughter is due to get married in two weeks time and Peter had spent most of
|the year dieting and trying to ensure he would look slim(mer!) when he gave
|her away - very sad.

|Likely there will need to be an inquest/coroner's report so funeral may not
|happen for some time.

Mary Kemp

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Sep 2, 2000, 4:40:32 AM9/2/00
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In article <E4m5nJA6...@ntlworld.com>, Ian Wilson

Would it be helpful if all those of us who would like to contribute to a card
and wreath emailed you, so that you knew how many people of us there are and
therefore into how many parts to divide xGBP?

(Copy emailed.)

--
Mary SODAM. PISS Artiste. BTM (LSS), Golden Bog Brush Award
Legion d'umbrae (rouge knickers rampant, flashing) Cert F. Scots
NB. Anti-spam strategy.Take the mickey out of me when replying
ma...@mickey.ajl-electronics.demon.co.uk

Rosalind Mitchell

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Sep 2, 2000, 12:44:16 PM9/2/00
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I thought I'd like to add that Peter was the very first Umrat I met in the
flesh. I'd been sitting in a pub in Keynsham one lunchtime without a clue who
I was supposed to be meeting or whether it was a good idea in the first place.
Then Peter introduced himself and I knew everything would be all right.

The second time I met him was in a pub in Cheltenham, where I was sitting
wondering where everybody was, who I was supposed to be meeting, and whether
it was a good idea in the first place (my feet were a little sore after Min's,
er, shall we say, ambiguous directions from the station). I wasn't wearing my
glasses, so I took the well-padded man busily scurrying about in a green
t-shirt to be a member of the bar staff.

This was a life to be celebrated. I am glad I knew Peter.

Rosie

Jenny M Benson

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Sep 1, 2000, 5:56:02 PM9/1/00
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>RIP, Peter.

Indeed. I'm quite upset - lost a friend, for all I didn't know him
well, but I think he had that happy knack of making everyone feel they
were his friend.
--
Jenny

George Middleton

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Sep 2, 2000, 5:44:00 AM9/2/00
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Al Menzies wrote>
"So it goes." say the Tralfamadorians who see *all* of the life and view
death as merely an incident in it.

You only have to do a bit of time travelling to find that Peter is alive
again, and we are all able to do that.

--
George

Helen Brace

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Sep 2, 2000, 8:14:01 AM9/2/00
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"Anne Olympios" <gol...@vtx.ch> wrote in message
news:39AE21D2...@vtx.ch...

> Brenda Selwyn wrote:
> >
> > This morning I received the following by e-mail from my ex-boss Tim
> > King, who now lives near Mynyddbach. It was dated 30/08/00:
> >
> > |Sad news: Pete Hesketh was found dead in his bath yesterday morning.
> >
> > |He'll be missed here - please tell people in his newsgroups.
> >
> > |Cause of death unknown but it appears it might be a brain haemorrhage
(he
> > |had a medical history pointing to this) or heart attack.
> >
> > Obviously this came as a great shock, as I know it will to others. I
> > think it's true to say that we all loved Peter, and will miss him
> > enormously.

> >
> > I am trying to find out details of the funeral, though I doubt I will
> > be able to go - I'll get details as soon as I have them in case anyrat
> > wants to go. Also I will try to find out where condolences etc should
> > be sent.
> >
> > I don't know which other groups Peter subscribed to. I will try to
> > find out through Deja, but if anyone subscribes to any of them and
> > wants to pass on the sad news (rather than me do it as a stranger),
> > please let me know.
> >
I have just got back from our holiday and I was so upset to read this sad,
sad, news. I always enjoyed Peter's postings, he was one of the first
people to welcome me to UMRA when I first de-lurked. Recently we swapped a
few e-mails over the best way for a fried to sell some Military memorabilia.
How typical of Peter to be trying to find ways to help others.

A sad day, please add my name to the list of condolences. My thoughts go
out to his family who I hope will be lifted by the thought that Peter made
such a difference to the lives of so many people.

Helen B


Jane Vernon

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Sep 2, 2000, 11:40:33 AM9/2/00
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From my vantage point in the treetop walk I heard Al Menzies say:

I shall treasure the memory of the journey I made with Peter from Stroud
to this year's BBQ, and the conversation we had about life and death. He
told me happily that he was enjoying life on "borrowed" time, having
survived an earlier brain haemorrage. I didn't know him well, though I
would have liked to, but he seemed to have decided to get the best out
of life, perhaps because of his earlier escape, and I shall continue to
feel glad that he lived life well while he was with us.

Jane

Monica Strawson

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Sep 2, 2000, 12:55:02 PM9/2/00
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On Thu, 31 Aug 2000 22:26:13 GMT, "Fran Watkins"
<fran...@cableinet.co.uk> wrote:

>
>"Andy Taylor" <an...@azande.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:S3wh$KAiVt...@azande.demon.co.uk...
>> In article <iq3sqs4j62m4ohltr...@4ax.com>, Brenda Selwyn
>> <bre...@matson.demon.co.uk> writes


>> >|Sad news: Pete Hesketh was found dead in his bath yesterday morning.
>> >
>> >|He'll be missed here - please tell people in his newsgroups.
>> >

>As someone who never met him except through his postings in the newsgroup
>and now wishes they had, as the above postings convey such a wonderfull
>image of a man. Please add my condolences to those of the rest of the
>group.
>
>Fran
>
>

What very sad news.
I have lurked here for many years and much enjoyed Peter's
contributions to umra. I find it difficult to find the right words.
All I can say is - please add my condolences.

Monica Strawson

Steven Holden

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Sep 2, 2000, 7:16:01 PM9/2/00
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...this is very sad news ...I actually have met Peter who
introduced himself to me at a market here in Ibiza last year while
he was on holiday,wandered out of the crowd in his green umra shirt and
asked me if i was the BHS...seemed as pleasant a chap as he appeared in his
frequent postings to umra......we had our photograph taken with me in his
umra shirt for some reason...and he posted the picture a couple of days
later on the web..

I actually saw the ballooning event in Bristol that he'd just returned from
last week,as we were watching the cricket on Sky the other day and the
camera kept peeping up at the assembled balloons drifting around the area.
Add my name to any communication to his family, please.
Too much of death have I seen of late....

steveBHS
Bearded Hippie Silversmith goods in Spanish from
http://www.jewellery-es.com


Robin Fairbairns

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Sep 3, 2000, 5:25:08 AM9/3/00
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linda phoned me at work the day the news appeared, but i've only just
got far enough through my backlog to read the whole thread.

linda appended my name to her immediate (heartfelt) reaction, but i
wanted to have my own say, too. a great man, in all senses: the sort
of person it was hard to dislike for more than a minute or so at a
time, a big hearted, generous, witty man who we will sorely miss.

thank you peter for your sterling work with the rest of us in
establishing umra for what it is ... the only newsgroup i really have
to restrain myself from reading during working hours ;-)
--
Robin Fairbairns, Cambridge

Marjorie Clarke

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Sep 3, 2000, 3:00:58 PM9/3/00
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Al Menzies <a...@betterwords.co.uk> wrote in message
news:39b0019f...@news.u-net.com...

Thank you for that, Al, I shall tuck it away in a safe place in my mind, for
future reference.


--
Marjorie Clarke


George N

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Sep 3, 2000, 5:26:13 PM9/3/00
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In article <iq3sqs4j62m4ohltr...@4ax.com>, Brenda Selwyn
<bre...@matson.demon.co.uk> writes
>This morning I received the following by e-mail from my ex-boss Tim
>King, who now lives near Mynyddbach. It was dated 30/08/00:
>
>|Sad news: Pete Hesketh was found dead in his bath yesterday morning.
>

Nugger!

A very sad piece of news that has moved me more than I would ever have
expected. I barely knew Peter but I feel as though I have lost a dear
friend.

His appearance as Higgs at the Three Guineas at the 1998 BBQ is a memory
to be cherished.
--
George N

Chris McMillan

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Sep 2, 2000, 10:33:42 AM9/2/00
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In article <39aeea16...@news.RDC1.MD.HOME.COM>, Stephen
<URL:mailto:stephe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> What awful news to come home to. No more Mynyddbach, no more
> adventures with balloons. I shall try to think of him not as gone for
> ever, but currently without news access at Nelson's Paradise Island.
>
Tears in the eyes here, Stephen, cos I can *hear* Peter saying this.

You lot won't see this until tomorrow at the earliest as we are all out at a
concert later (Toodles having gone already), but if I have time between
leaving here and collecting wunderkind from work, I'm going to hunt out the
latest TA titles. I know the third part of the trilogy is due any day - but
I'm sure Peter's mentioned in TATTS 2nd ed. - somehow we should include that
in our tribute to his family. Anyone got TATTS 2nd ed. yet?

Chris McMillan

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Sep 2, 2000, 10:44:44 AM9/2/00
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In article <onqCgKAU...@ntlworld.com>, Ian Wilson
<URL:mailto:r.ian....@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> I never met Peter but felt that I knew him very well from his long time
> contributions to UMRA and from the many photos of him at the BBQs.
> His "Higgs" chauffeuring of the train travellers in 1998 and the
> 'Lambing Caravan' in 1999 come easily to mind.
>
Thought I had a photo of the lambing caravan, but I haven't, or if I have
its not in the album. I'll have to check my negs. Has anyone got a photo
of the lambing caravan? (JPG may well have something in his videos which
may be where I'm confused, I've seen the first two efforts only).

Chris McMillan

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Sep 3, 2000, 2:42:04 PM9/3/00
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In article <nidJrFAx...@otbo.demon.co.uk>, Jane Vernon

<URL:mailto:ja...@otbo.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> From my vantage point in the treetop walk I heard Al Menzies say:
> >On Thu, 31 Aug 2000 10:52:26 GMT, the nimble fingers of Stephen GC
> >Tilley dashed across the keyboard to create this message:
> >
> >>It is sad when those who enjoy life are robbed of it early.
> >
> >It can help to see it not as a life interrupted, but as a life
> >complete.
>
> I shall treasure the memory of the journey I made with Peter from Stroud
> to this year's BBQ, and the conversation we had about life and death. He
> told me happily that he was enjoying life on "borrowed" time, having
> survived an earlier brain haemorrage.
>
That I didn't know.

A memory that has nothing to do with bbqs.

I think the fact that he jumped at the chance of driving I have no idea
*how* many miles there and back on a Sunday to come and see Simon T. with us
says a great deal for the feeling of friendship he had for people in umra.
I don't think he knew much more about the PRO than we did, but he like us
wanted to see Simon in action, and he knew that unless others joined in we
couldn't get to the venue by public transport. (Not that we could have had
any idea that Mary K would be transportless as well).

The lambing caravan wasn't about then (in between them IIRC) so he had no
option but to drive home, being allergic to our moggy. He must have been
away from home from about 9am until 1pm - and before he turned in, he'd
written me a thank you note - and IIRC a report to umra.

He also intended to do this same trip on a much earlier occasion, but a
Saturday in Nov. 1997. It was join us for a meal here along with Pauline
and Stephen Turner plus Roger and Vicenta, our non-netted umrats. Sadly he
never arrived, and we thought that the weather being particularly foul the
Severn Bridge had beaten him. Several days later he told me that his
brother had died that day and he'd had other things to do. I don't know if
that was his only sibling.

Seeing his enjoyment of Simon and the PRO will remain with me a long time,
specially the fact that he had to keep his legs wrapped round one of the
player's music stands, the venue being *so* minute the only difference
between the auditorium and the stage being the material on the floor. If we
ever return to see Simon perform there again, the memory will return I'm
sure.

Chris McMillan

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Sep 2, 2000, 10:53:45 AM9/2/00
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In article <ojmuqsc7gqr4g9jdd...@4ax.com>, Brenda Selwyn
<URL:mailto:bre...@matson.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> >Serena Blanchflower <ser...@sblanchflower.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>

> has heard the news yet (has Heather been told, and does anyone know
> how to get in touch with AJW?) then I will send it all off to the
> address provided by Charles.
>

Sid has now sent a note to Heather - which I've seen - and he's made a
lovely job of it. I've dropped a note to Chloe, IIRC she returned on the
30th and Chris Harrison's away until 11th Sept, his automessage told me
this, but it gave an alternative e-mail which he will use if he finds a
suitable cafe, so I've dropped a mail in there too.
>
And I've also e-mailed JPG - I hope it went to some e-mail address he
frequents more often than his new group activities. The reason I'm a bit
concerned is that the one I'd bookmarked didn't work, so I took the
'soft256' etc off the top of someone's reply and hoping.
>
I didn't keep a note of Rob's holiday e-mail address so we'll have to
remember when he re-appears in October to tell him as soon as he does a
first posting.
>
If anyone's got a phone number for Mary Gentle, perhaps they could ring her,
the last I saw her computer was on the fade.
>
Even if we can't organise something now, I'd like to know where any
donations are going and we could send our bbq donations to the same source
next year.

Chris McMillan

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Sep 2, 2000, 11:01:59 AM9/2/00
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In article <8ool2c$bcd6q$2...@ID-23995.news.cis.dfn.de>, Penny Mayes
<URL:mailto:ma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> We didn't always see eye to eye but I too will always think of Peter as a
> kind and big-hearted friend. I shall always remember him as I first saw
> him outside the Three Guineas, dressed in chauffeur's cap and clutching a
> hand written sign reading 'Grey Gables' (Higgs being a non-speaking part)
> and then his childish glee over the bag of goodies which Min had brought
> for him (wasn't there a water pistol?).
>
Someone gave me a photo of Peter standing in his suit (but minus his cap)
and looking into a white paper bag? Would this be the goody bag from Min by
any chance? There's also a group one of you all lazing about outside the
Three Gs. I can't remember who gave me the photos now - was it you, Penny?

Chris McMillan

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Sep 3, 2000, 2:45:46 PM9/3/00
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In article <ant02083...@ajl-electronics.demon.co.uk>, Mary Kemp

<URL:mailto:ma...@ajl-electronics.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <E4m5nJA6...@ntlworld.com>, Ian Wilson
> <URL:mailto:r.ian....@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> > In article <ojmuqsc7gqr4g9jdd...@4ax.com>, Brenda Selwyn
> > <bre...@matson.demon.co.uk> writes
> > >>Serena Blanchflower <ser...@sblanchflower.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
> > >>

>
> Would it be helpful if all those of us who would like to contribute to a card
> and wreath emailed you, so that you knew how many people of us there are and
> therefore into how many parts to divide xGBP?
>

'Wreaths' come in various prices and I think distance comes into it
(certainly it does for bouquets). If possible though Brenda if it could be
yellow flowers with simple greenery as in umra colours?

Chris McMillan

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Sep 3, 2000, 2:51:29 PM9/3/00
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In article <a5e1rsseibb8m7udu...@4ax.com>, Brenda Selwyn

<URL:mailto:bre...@matson.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> >Brenda Selwyn <bre...@matson.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >This morning I received the following by e-mail from my ex-boss Tim
> >King, who now lives near Mynyddbach. It was dated 30/08/00:
> >

> |His daughter is due to get married in two weeks time
>
Another umrat had said this to me, but I hadn't remembered seeing this
snippet.


>
> Peter had spent most of |the year dieting and trying to ensure he would

> look slim(mer!) when he gave |her away.
>
Which he certainly did back in May. Was this the last time anyone saw him
or did he make it into the Exmouth Min?


>
> |Likely there will need to be an inquest/coroner's report
>

Postmortem only probably, especially as he'd already had the 'warning' brain
haemorrhage.

As Carey was at the bbq I also e-mailed him about Peter's death. He'd know
the answers to this question. Robin f?

Jenny M Benson

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Sep 5, 2000, 1:49:54 PM9/5/00
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In article <8p1b43$duq$1...@news5.svr.pol.co.uk>, Bob Heath <bobheath@heath
r.freeserve.co.uk> writes
>Please add my name to the list of UMRATS sending condolences.

And also that of Ian Gogay who asked me to forward the following message
on his behalf:

God! what a bolt from the blue. Thanks for letting me know Jenny. I must
admit my eyes welled up as I read this. He was a great bloke. One of the
few
Umrats I corresponded with via private mail. UMRA won't be quite the
same
without him.

--
Jenny

Charles F Hankel

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Sep 5, 2000, 2:25:52 PM9/5/00
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I saw Charles F Hankel <cha...@hankel.freedombird.net> was spiking the
Home Farm sheep and muttering:

> I saw Charles F Hankel <cha...@hankel.freedombird.net> was spiking the
> Home Farm sheep and muttering:


>
> > > I am trying to find out details of the funeral, though I doubt I will
> > > be able to go - I'll get details as soon as I have them in case anyrat
> > > wants to go. Also I will try to find out where condolences etc should
> > > be sent.
> >

> > Thanks for notifying us, Brenda. The latter will be useful - I may have an
> > address here somewhere but am honestly too stunned by the news to think of
> > exactly where it is.
>
> Following on from this, I do indeed have the Hesketh postal address.
> Anyone who wants it should e-mail me as it would still be irresponsible of
> me to post it here despite the circumstances.

Following on further, I've been out of commission for a couple of days
thanks to some viral infection or other, and this PC has been in pieces for
most of today. There are a few updates but, as I spoke to Lizbuff on the
phone earlier today, I'll read through the 220 unread posts first so as to
avoid too much duplication.

--

Charles F Hankel
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Hapless FAQer on the Wirral peninsula http://www.umra.org.uk
Member: Strombone 2000

Chris McMillan

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Sep 5, 2000, 1:30:50 PM9/5/00
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In article <8oupdb$bf13f$2...@ID-23995.news.cis.dfn.de>, Penny Mayes
<URL:mailto:ma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Chris McMillan wrote in message ...

> >In article <8ool2c$bcd6q$2...@ID-23995.news.cis.dfn.de>, Penny Mayes
> ><URL:mailto:ma...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> Yep, that was one of mine, I sent you a set for the web page
>
The prints are in the bbq album but mixed with mine, and I never marked who
they came from. The lambing caravan one I mentioned is a digital one taken
by Toodles and he says it can go on the memorial page. All the photos
pre-2000 are found on Ian Wilson's site (but being me I don't have a URL).

Chris McMillan

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Sep 5, 2000, 1:32:57 PM9/5/00
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In article <B7eIdAAf$1s5...@paul.freeserve.co.uk>, btms
<URL:mailto:Li...@reflect.fsbusiness.co.uk> wrote:
> Chris McMillan provoked me into replying by saying:

> > Anyone got TATTS 2nd ed. yet?
>
> Yes. I'll have a look later - unless someone else is already on to it.

I found a copy lurking in Waterstones (but TA books are in both of our
Waterstones these days). It refers to 'Peter's mum's Dutch Apple Pie', and
Jane confirms that said recipe resides in the cookbook. Definitely answers
the question that the SWs did a lurk at some time, and that the 'Peter' is
indeed our Hesky in despatches. Maybe the recipe should go on the memorial
page with a sideways tribute to a mention in TATTSs 2nd ed.

Ian Wilson

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Sep 5, 2000, 3:52:44 PM9/5/00
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In article <ant05175...@mikesounds.demon.co.uk>, Chris McMillan
<Ch...@mikesounds.demon.co.uk> writes

>The prints are in the bbq album but mixed with mine, and I never marked who
>they came from. The lambing caravan one I mentioned is a digital one taken
>by Toodles and he says it can go on the memorial page. All the photos
>pre-2000 are found on Ian Wilson's site (but being me I don't have a URL).
>

Http://homepage.ntlworld.com/r.ian.wilson/

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