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J. P. Gilliver (John)

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Aug 18, 2009, 6:30:09 PM8/18/09
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Longer-memory UMRAts might remember that I'd been looking for Malzbier -
a zero- or low-alcohol beer-like drink common in Germany, often sold
(there) as a health and/or children's drink. (I just happen to like it.
I have a sweet tooth.)

I recently bought some "shandy" at a Lidl, and enjoyed the taste; it's
only just occurred to me why - it's the taste I've been looking for for
years. It's just labelled shandy (not lemonade shandy as Tesco's one
is), and sold in a brown (plastic 2l) bottle; appears to have the
maker's name of Lindhouse or something like that, but the small print
says made for Lidl GmbH.

So, anyone else looking for Malzbier in the UK ... (a warning to the
rest of you - it's _very_ sweet, and you probably won't like it.)
--
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Ralph B

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Aug 19, 2009, 2:39:39 AM8/19/09
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On Aug 19, 12:30 am, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"

<G6...@soft255.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> So, anyone else looking for Malzbier in the UK ... (a warning to the
> rest of you - it's _very_ sweet, and you probably won't like it.)

You'll be telling us the cat drunk it next. :-)

Zum Wohl!

the Omrud

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Aug 19, 2009, 5:34:18 AM8/19/09
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J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
> Longer-memory UMRAts might remember that I'd been looking for Malzbier -
> a zero- or low-alcohol beer-like drink common in Germany, often sold
> (there) as a health and/or children's drink. (I just happen to like it.
> I have a sweet tooth.)
>
> I recently bought some "shandy" at a Lidl, and enjoyed the taste; it's
> only just occurred to me why - it's the taste I've been looking for for
> years. It's just labelled shandy (not lemonade shandy as Tesco's one
> is), and sold in a brown (plastic 2l) bottle; appears to have the
> maker's name of Lindhouse or something like that, but the small print
> says made for Lidl GmbH.
>
> So, anyone else looking for Malzbier in the UK ... (a warning to the
> rest of you - it's _very_ sweet, and you probably won't like it.)

We went round to see our English neighbours in SW France when we
arrived. The elderly and very proper husband offered me a beer (turning
to my own Wife, saying "You won't want a beer, though"). I was given a
golden liquid in a cut-glass half pint tumbler. I nearly spat it out -
not because it was horrible but because it was almost, but not entirely,
unlike beer.

I asked to see the bottle. "I don't know much about beer", he said. "I
don't drink it myself". This, combined with his limited French meant
that he'd bought "panach�". This is very similar to what you describe
above - a nearly-alcohol-free beer-flavoured lemonade. Shandy without
the alcohol. It's perfectly pleasant but it wasn't what I was expecting.

A couple of days later, he gave me a "proper" beer, although most French
lager is pretty dire, unless it comes from Strasbourg.

So, you might be able to find a panach� which would suit in place of
Malzbier, if you happen to be in France. There are dozens of brands, so
they're probably all different.

--
David

Captain Paralytic

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Aug 19, 2009, 7:32:04 AM8/19/09
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On 18 Aug, 23:30, "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6...@soft255.demon.co.uk>
wrote:

> Longer-memory UMRAts might remember that I'd been looking for Malzbier -
> a zero- or low-alcohol beer-like drink common in Germany, often sold
> (there) as a health and/or children's drink. (I just happen to like it.
> I have a sweet tooth.)
>
> I recently bought some "shandy" at a Lidl, and enjoyed the taste; it's
> only just occurred to me why - it's the taste I've been looking for for
> years. It's just labelled shandy (not lemonade shandy as Tesco's one
> is), and sold in a brown (plastic 2l) bottle; appears to have the
> maker's name of Lindhouse or something like that, but the small print
> says made for Lidl GmbH.

My daughter and I bought loads of this a couple of years ago.
Unfortunately Lidl only does it in summer.

J. P. Gilliver (John)

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Aug 19, 2009, 6:11:22 PM8/19/09
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In message <uGPim.69507$OO7....@text.news.virginmedia.com>, the Omrud

Hmm. You've prompted me to go and pour a little into a glass (since I
live alone, I've just been swigging it from the bottle, which is brown
plastic, so I didn't know what it looks like). This particular liquid is
brown, rather than golden (in beer terms, a stout rather than a lager, I
think - I'm not into beer either). This matches what I remember of
Malzbier, which _looks_ very like a stout - such as Guinness - dark
brown, with (if you want one and so pour it accordingly) a head (which
lasts, unlike the one on e. g. coke which disappears in a few seconds).


>
>A couple of days later, he gave me a "proper" beer, although most
>French lager is pretty dire, unless it comes from Strasbourg.
>
>So, you might be able to find a panach� which would suit in place of
>Malzbier, if you happen to be in France. There are dozens of brands,
>so they're probably all different.
>

Strange, I'd never heard the word; I'll look out for it, on the (at
present unlikely) offchance I'm in France in the near future. Any
Frenchrats care to suggest what the word means? Panache I know, but with
the accent on it sounds like a past participle, and I can't think what
the verb panacher might mean.


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the Omrud

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Aug 19, 2009, 6:21:54 PM8/19/09
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J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
> In message <uGPim.69507$OO7....@text.news.virginmedia.com>, the Omrud
> <usenet...@gEXPUNGEmail.com> writes:
>
>> So, you might be able to find a panach� which would suit in place of
>> Malzbier, if you happen to be in France. There are dozens of brands,
>> so they're probably all different.
>>
> Strange, I'd never heard the word; I'll look out for it, on the (at
> present unlikely) offchance I'm in France in the near future. Any
> Frenchrats care to suggest what the word means? Panache I know, but with
> the accent on it sounds like a past participle, and I can't think what
> the verb panacher might mean.

It means to mix or combine, but I guess it must otherwise be rare as
I've never heard the verb used.

--
David

Jo Lonergan

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Aug 19, 2009, 8:07:24 PM8/19/09
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On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 22:21:54 GMT, the Omrud <usenet...@gEXPUNGEmail.com>
wrote:

>J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
>> In message <uGPim.69507$OO7....@text.news.virginmedia.com>, the Omrud
>> <usenet...@gEXPUNGEmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> So, you might be able to find a panach� which would suit in place of
>>> Malzbier, if you happen to be in France. There are dozens of brands,
>>> so they're probably all different.
>>>
>> Strange, I'd never heard the word; I'll look out for it, on the (at
>> present unlikely) offchance I'm in France in the near future. Any
>> Frenchrats care to suggest what the word means? Panache I know, but with
>> the accent on it sounds like a past participle, and I can't think what
>> the verb panacher might mean.

In German-speaking Switzerland it's a lemonade shandy, mixed AFAIK 50/50 and
generally to order, not out of a bottle.


>
>It means to mix or combine, but I guess it must otherwise be rare as
>I've never heard the verb used.

The first meaning given in my Collins is to vote for candidates from different
lists in an election, otherwise it seems to be used for blending colours.

--
Jo

J. P. Gilliver (John)

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Aug 20, 2009, 2:42:45 AM8/20/09
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In message <di4p859e1uoa4djnf...@4ax.com>, Jo Lonergan
<jolon...@hotmail.com> writes:
>On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 22:21:54 GMT, the Omrud <usenet...@gEXPUNGEmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
>>> In message <uGPim.69507$OO7....@text.news.virginmedia.com>, the Omrud
>>> <usenet...@gEXPUNGEmail.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> So, you might be able to find a panach� which would suit in place of
>>>> Malzbier, if you happen to be in France. There are dozens of brands,
>>>> so they're probably all different.
>>>>
>>> Strange, I'd never heard the word; I'll look out for it, on the (at
>>> present unlikely) offchance I'm in France in the near future. Any
>>> Frenchrats care to suggest what the word means? Panache I know, but with
>>> the accent on it sounds like a past participle, and I can't think what
>>> the verb panacher might mean.
>
>In German-speaking Switzerland it's a lemonade shandy, mixed AFAIK 50/50 and
>generally to order, not out of a bottle.

Ah, then definitely not the same as Malzbier.


>>
>>It means to mix or combine, but I guess it must otherwise be rare as
>>I've never heard the verb used.
>
>The first meaning given in my Collins is to vote for candidates from different
>lists in an election, otherwise it seems to be used for blending colours.
>

Interesting, thanks.

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