Postcode
K Richard W
Village through the Ages" which was originally published in 1981?
This was written by the 'efffff' woman and published by Methuen.
Interestingly for those who have recently endured events on unnc the
Post Office issued a Postcode for the Ambridge locality.
So can someone say what the postcode is please?
My thanks to Penny Mayes who obviously read the Smethurst tome "TATTS"
somewhat more closely than I did!
--
K Richard W
LSS super-numerary
Keith
K Richard W <richard....@studyroom.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> Do any of our regular contributors have a copy of "Ambridge - An English
> Village through the Ages" which was originally published in 1981?
Err. Yes. [Wonders what's coming next then realises is disqualified by not
being a regular contributor.]
> This was written by the 'efffff' woman and published by Methuen.
> Interestingly for those who have recently endured events on unnc the
> Post Office issued a Postcode for the Ambridge locality.
With John Tregorran. There are some interesting maps which show the
location of Borsetshire in relation to Worcestershire and Warwickshire. I
had forgotten that the River Stour flowed by Felpersham.
> So can someone say what the postcode is please?
I cannot see the Postcode in the book. I will have a look in the postcode
book next time I'm in the office.
> My thanks to Penny Mayes who obviously read the Smethurst tome "TATTS"
> somewhat more closely than I did!
Regards
Keith
In the sunny East Fleggs
Penny Mayes
>Do any of our regular contributors have a copy of "Ambridge - An
English
>Village through the Ages" which was originally published in 1981?
>
>Interestingly for those who have recently endured events on unnc the
>Post Office issued a Postcode for the Ambridge locality.
>
>
Shula and Marks wedding. "The Archbishop of Canterbury unaccountably
failed to reply. The Prime Minister and Denis Thatcher wrote expressing
their regrets in a letter quite properly sent to Mr and Mrs Philip
Archer, Brookfield Farm, Ambridge, Borchester B57 QQ."
Mr Smethurst goes on to speculate what might have happened if the Soviet
Ambassador and his wife had not been away on holiday on the wedding day.
Apparently road directions had been included with the invitations for
those who had not been to Ambridge before. He imagines H E and Madam
Popova wandering round Worcestershire in their embassy car, desperately
trying to find the B3980 to Borchester or inquiring in vain for the
turning to Waterly Cross.
We were recently discussing here the extent of the Lower Loxley estate.
TATTS quotes /Stately Homes and Gardens/ report that "The estate,
although shrunk by half when death duties forced sale for development,
still runs to nearly 2500 acres."
Which makes me wonder
Who runs this estate?
What sort of use is the land put to?
Have they had as bad a year as the rest of the local farming community?
Penny remove the usual to reply
Earth is 98% full... please delete anyone you can.
Peter Hesketh
<ma...@peTHEUSUALmail.net> writes
>K Richard W wrote in message <5N6+0lAr...@studyroom.demon.co.uk>...
>The Prime Minister and Denis Thatcher wrote expressing
>their regrets in a letter quite properly sent to Mr and Mrs Philip
>Archer, Brookfield Farm, Ambridge, Borchester B57 QQ."
BS57 QQ?
Postcodes are normally:
Letter Letter number [space] number [number] letter letter.
What should come before the QQ?
--
Regards - Peter Hesketh, Mynyddbach, Mon.
Forty reasons why a dog is better than a woman: number 19
"You don't dread a visit from a dog's parents"
chris harrison
says...
> In article <77stii$eqe$2...@news7.svr.pol.co.uk>, Penny Mayes
> <ma...@peTHEUSUALmail.net> writes
>
> >K Richard W wrote in message <5N6+0lAr...@studyroom.demon.co.uk>...
> >The Prime Minister and Denis Thatcher wrote expressing
> >their regrets in a letter quite properly sent to Mr and Mrs Philip
> >Archer, Brookfield Farm, Ambridge, Borchester B57 QQ."
>
> BS57 QQ?
>
> Postcodes are normally:
>
> Letter Letter number [space] number [number] letter letter.
Or, rather, Letter [Letter] number [number/letter] [space] number
[number] letter letter
Which could make it B5 7QQ, although we're not really close enough to
Brum to justify that.
--
The Archers Plot Summaries
http://www.bogo.co.uk/lowfield/archers/
Chris McMillan
> Do any of our regular contributors have a copy of "Ambridge - An English
> Village through the Ages" which was originally published in 1981?
>
Sincerely, Chris
--
Mrs. Chris McMillan. Tel. 0118 926 5450. e-mail:
ch...@mikesounds.demon.co.uk http://www.mikesounds.demon.co.uk/Family.htm
Penny Mayes
>In article <p7uj4KAg...@phesk.demon.co.uk>, p...@phesk.demon.co.uk
>says...
>> In article <77stii$eqe$2...@news7.svr.pol.co.uk>, Penny Mayes
>> <ma...@peTHEUSUALmail.net> writes
>> >their regrets in a letter quite properly sent to Mr and Mrs Philip
>> >Archer, Brookfield Farm, Ambridge, Borchester B57 QQ."
>>
>> BS57 QQ?
>>
>> Postcodes are normally:
>>
>> Letter Letter number [space] number [number] letter letter.
>
>Or, rather, Letter [Letter] number [number/letter] [space] number
>[number] letter letter
>
>Which could make it B5 7QQ, although we're not really close enough to
>Brum to justify that.
That must be it, the book printed it with no space, thought it looked
odd...
George Middleton
>We were recently discussing here the extent of the Lower Loxley estate.
>TATTS quotes /Stately Homes and Gardens/ report that "The estate,
>although shrunk by half when death duties forced sale for development,
>still runs to nearly 2500 acres."
>
>Which makes me wonder
>Who runs this estate?
>What sort of use is the land put to?
>Have they had as bad a year as the rest of the local farming community?
>
even Lower Loxley Hall is shown on the map is it?
>Penny remove the usual to reply
>Earth is 98% full... please delete anyone you can.
We have Milosovik, Blair and Clinton doing their best to rectify the
situation.
--
George
Peter Hesketh
<ma...@peTHEUSUALmail.net> quotes and writes
>>Which could make it B5 7QQ, although we're not really close enough to
>>Brum to justify that.
>
>That must be it, the book printed it with no space, thought it looked
>odd...
I am sure that is what they meant. How can I be sure? This result from
a search of Electronice Yellow Pages may be a clue!
Broadcasting Centre
Pebble Mill Rd
Edgbaston
Birmingham
West Midlands B5 7QQ
Tel: 0121 432 8888
chris harrison
>
> In article <77uilq$h9p$2...@news8.svr.pol.co.uk>, Penny Mayes
> <ma...@peTHEUSUALmail.net> quotes and writes
> >>Which could make it B5 7QQ, although we're not really close enough to
> >>Brum to justify that.
> >
> >That must be it, the book printed it with no space, thought it looked
> >odd...
>
> I am sure that is what they meant. How can I be sure? This result from
> a search of Electronice Yellow Pages may be a clue!
>
> Broadcasting Centre
> Pebble Mill Rd
> Edgbaston
> Birmingham
> West Midlands B5 7QQ
> Tel: 0121 432 8888
I knew I recognised it from somewhere. When I mentally read it as B5 7QQ
it rang vague bells but I didn't click.
It's like W1A 1AA, W1N 4DJ, W12 8QT and so on ... you hear them so often
as addresses that they stay there. Similar to the way that 01-811-8181
(which, fortunately, became 081 and 0181) still resides in the mind (and
is still the BBC1 Saturday morning phone number)
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staying at home and tending your garden." - Voltaire
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Peter Hesketh
<ca...@icparc.ic.ac.uk> writes
>It's like W1A 1AA, W1N 4DJ, W12 8QT and so on ... you hear them so often
>as addresses that they stay there. Similar to the way that 01-811-8181
>(which, fortunately, became 081 and 0181) still resides in the mind (and
>is still the BBC1 Saturday morning phone number)
Hands up those who know the significance of Whitehall 1212.
Andrew Wineberg
chris harrison <ca...@icparc.ic.ac.uk> wrote:
> It's like W1A 1AA,
BBC Broadcasting House, LONDON
> W1N 4DJ,
I give up.
> W12 8QT
BBC Television Centre, LONDON
> and so on ... you hear them so often
> as addresses that they stay there.
So they do.
> Similar to the way that 01-811-8181
> (which, fortunately, became 081 and 0181) still resides in the mind
Not in mine. I remember the old R4 phone-in line, (0171) 580 4444.
--
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Andrew Stevenson
Peter Hesketh wrote in message ...
>>their regrets in a letter quite properly sent to Mr and Mrs Philip
>>Archer, Brookfield Farm, Ambridge, Borchester B57 QQ."
>
>BS57 QQ?
Think you'll find it's B5 7QQ
which http://www.postcode.co.uk tells me is the postcode for some outfit
called
British Broadcasting Corporation
Pebble Mill Road
BIRMINGHAM
B5 7QQ
Evidently, whoever this British Broadcasting lot are, they're getting
Brookfield's post.
--
Andrew
Fenny
>
> In message <36A31DDF...@icparc.ic.ac.uk>
> chris harrison <ca...@icparc.ic.ac.uk> wrote:
>
> > Similar to the way that 01-811-8181
> > (which, fortunately, became 081 and 0181) still resides in the mind
--
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16. Men love watches with multiple functions. My husband has one that
is a combination address book, telescope and piano.
Fenny
>
> Hands up those who know the significance of Whitehall 1212.
It's a line from a Boomtown Rats song as well as what you're thinking of
8-)
chris harrison
A.Win...@BTINTERNET.COM says...
>
> BBC Broadcasting House, LONDON
Yup.
> > W1N 4DJ,
>
> I give up.
The studios next door including, inter alia, Radio One. ("win for DJ"
....)
> > W12 8QT
>
> BBC Television Centre, LONDON
That fine building on Wood Lane.
> > and so on ... you hear them so often
> > as addresses that they stay there.
>
> So they do.
>
> > Similar to the way that 01-811-8181
> > (which, fortunately, became 081 and 0181) still resides in the mind
>
> Not in mine. I remember the old R4 phone-in line, (0171) 580 4444.
What not even from Swap Shop or Saturday Superstore? Or, for the younger
readers amongst us, Going Live or Live and Kicking? (As well as the
London-based shorter fillers in the bits in between.)
Liz Blades
>In article <36A31DDF...@icparc.ic.ac.uk>, chris harrison
><ca...@icparc.ic.ac.uk> writes
>>It's like W1A 1AA, W1N 4DJ, W12 8QT and so on ... you hear them so often
>>as addresses that they stay there. Similar to the way that 01-811-8181
>>(which, fortunately, became 081 and 0181) still resides in the mind (and
>>is still the BBC1 Saturday morning phone number)
>Hands up those who know the significance of Whitehall 1212.
Me Sir ,Me Sir 'twas Scotland Yard.And when I was in premises with GMP
our phone no. was +++ 832 1212 plus ext no. not really a coincidence
I thought.
Liz
Who is now well away from that job.
>--
>Regards - Peter Hesketh, Mynyddbach, Mon.
>Forty reasons why a dog is better than a woman: number 19
>"You don't dread a visit from a dog's parents"
Liz Blades
Proprietor of Blades Home Brewery
115 Market Street,Farnworth,Bolton,Lanc's
http://www.dmatters.co.uk/Blades/blades.html
Bob Heath
>Hands up those who know the significance of Whitehall 1212.
IIRC it was the telephone number of Scotland Yard, and usually mentioned in
broadcasts involving relatives of the "dangerously ill ", urging them to
make contact before the patient popped their clogs.
There again I sometimes cannot remember what day it is, let alone something
from 30+ years ago.
BTW, when did the Post Office cease using Alpha coding and drop the, IMHO
more pleasing practice of using place-names?
--
Bob Heath
Mary Kemp
<URL:mailto:p...@phesk.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Hands up those who know the significance of Whitehall 1212.
Peter, stop trying to "out" the oldies.
I have no idea what it is.
<nose grows three inches longer>
--
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Please take the mickey out of me when replying
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Mike McMillan
> <ca...@icparc.ic.ac.uk> writes
> >It's like W1A 1AA, W1N 4DJ, W12 8QT and so on ... you hear them so often
> >as addresses that they stay there. Similar to the way that 01-811-8181
> >(which, fortunately, became 081 and 0181) still resides in the mind (and
> >is still the BBC1 Saturday morning phone number)
>
>
Well, I kno it wer the number to ring when Scotland Yard put out an appeal
for info after a crime had been described - other than that . . . not
really.
Toodle Pip, Pip, Pip, Pip, Pip . . .
Mike
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Did you expect to find an amusing sig. line here?.. You Did?.. What a Shame!
Tel: 0118 9265450, Fax: 0118 9668167. http://www.mikesounds.demon.co.uk/
Martin Drew
Peter Hesketh wrote in message ...
><ca...@icparc.ic.ac.uk> writes
>>It's like W1A 1AA, W1N 4DJ, W12 8QT and so on ... you hear them so often
>>as addresses that they stay there. Similar to the way that 01-811-8181
>>(which, fortunately, became 081 and 0181) still resides in the mind (and
>>is still the BBC1 Saturday morning phone number)
>
>
>Hands up those who know the significance of Whitehall 1212.
Golly, where will this memory game take us next. That Scotland Yard number
goes back to the days when smoking was socially acceptable and a gentleman
always carried both Turkish and Virginia cigarettes. There is an obituary
for Marion Ryan in this morning's Times, who can remember her then? . Don't
the 1950s seem a long time ago now.
Martin - Haverfordwest
Robin Fairbairns
>Whilst grooming his dog, Peter Hesketh of Mynyddbach, Mon. asked : -
>
>broadcasts involving relatives of the "dangerously ill ", urging them to
>make contact before the patient popped their clogs.
i don't remember the emergency ones going to scotland yard, but i do
remember whi 1212 being given out an awful lot.
>There again I sometimes cannot remember what day it is, let alone something
>from 30+ years ago.
i remember things from 30+ years ago far better than what day of the
week it is.
>BTW, when did the Post Office cease using Alpha coding and drop the, IMHO
>more pleasing practice of using place-names?
the switch to what they're pleased to call all-figure numbers started
back in the 70s (i think ... just on the limit of the things i
remember ;-).
but it's only become really pervasive in the recent past with the
conversion of every last exchange to a computer of some sort or
another. there's no character to the system any more: you can't hack
it or anything...
(of course, it's not been the post office's responsibility these many
years ... the date of formation of bt -- somewhat before the massive
give-away -- is well into the period of memory-fuzziness.)
--
Robin Fairbairns, Cambridge
Paddy Smith
>
> In article <48C67B8BD7%A.Win...@BTINTERNET.COM>,
> A.Win...@BTINTERNET.COM says...
> > In message <36A31DDF...@icparc.ic.ac.uk>
> > chris harrison <ca...@icparc.ic.ac.uk> wrote:
> >
> >
> > > Similar to the way that 01-811-8181
> > > (which, fortunately, became 081 and 0181) still resides in the mind
> >
>
> What not even from Swap Shop or Saturday Superstore? Or, for the younger
> readers amongst us, Going Live or Live and Kicking? (As well as the
> London-based shorter fillers in the bits in between.)
Swap Shop? 01 811 8055, smileymiley.
I'd like to swap Maggie Philbin for Zoe Ball, please Noel.
Kate Lambert
<ca...@icparc.ic.ac.uk> writes
>
>It's like W1A 1AA, W1N 4DJ, W12 8QT and so on ... you hear them so often
>as addresses that they stay there. Similar to the way that 01-811-8181
>(which, fortunately, became 081 and 0181) still resides in the mind (and
>is still the BBC1 Saturday morning phone number)
>
I making this up or am I thinking of something Before Your Time (scary
thought)?
--
Kate Lambert
The Swap Shop generation
Kate Lambert
<smi...@mail.tcd.ie> writes
>
>Swap Shop? 01 811 8055, smileymiley.
Phew - it's not just me then...
>
>I'd like to swap Maggie Philbin for Zoe Ball, please Noel.
I'll swap Keith Chegwin for anything you've got.
--
Kate Lambert
George Middleton
>Hands up those who know the significance of Whitehall 1212.
It's an instruction to Carol Vordaman. One from the top, two from the
second row, etc.
--
George
chris harrison
>
> chris harrison wrote:
> >
> > In article <48C67B8BD7%A.Win...@BTINTERNET.COM>,
> > A.Win...@BTINTERNET.COM says...
> > > In message <36A31DDF...@icparc.ic.ac.uk>
> > > chris harrison <ca...@icparc.ic.ac.uk> wrote:
> > >
> > > So they do.
> > >
> > > > (which, fortunately, became 081 and 0181) still resides in the mind
> > >
> >
> > What not even from Swap Shop or Saturday Superstore? Or, for the younger
> > readers amongst us, Going Live or Live and Kicking? (As well as the
> > London-based shorter fillers in the bits in between.)
>
Strewth, I'd forgotten the even earlier one. When did they swap?
> I'd like to swap Maggie Philbin for Zoe Ball, please Noel.
But are you giving MP away or getting rid of Johnny's girl?
Ahhh, Saturday mornings. I remember going along to Cheggers' roadshow
when it came to Winchester. I got a signed photo. He was very small (and
smaller in the photo). Even compared to my 13 year old frame.
Dave Mayall
>
> Do any of our regular contributors have a copy of "Ambridge - An English
> Village through the Ages" which was originally published in 1981?
>
> Interestingly for those who have recently endured events on unnc the
> Post Office issued a Postcode for the Ambridge locality.
>
> So can someone say what the postcode is please?
I wondered how long it would take you all to notice that Ambridge does
have a postcode!
You won't however find it in any 1981 book, because it was issued after
I started working for the Post Office (IIRC, it was sometime 1992-95)
From What I can remember from the Official Post Office Gazette notice;
The Postcode sector is AM (odd when you consider that Ambridge is only
a very minor part of the sector.
The principal posttown is Borcester
There may have been a Felpersham posttown
Ambridge is a Note 3 Phantom posttown on Borcester
This would make the correct postal address;
xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Ambridge
BORCESTER
Borsetshire
AMx xxx
Don't bother trying, because the sorting machines know about it, and
will deal with it accordingly, like they do with all postcodes for
non-real places.
--
Dave Mayall
The views expressed are mine and may not be those of my employer
Private e-mail to david....@ukonline.co.uk please
Niles
>>Chris Harrison wrote:
>>Or, rather, Letter [Letter] number [number/letter] [space] number
>>[number] letter letter
>>
>>Which could make it B5 7QQ, although we're not really close enough to
>>Brum to justify that.
>
>That must be it, the book printed it with no space, thought it looked
>odd...
>
B5 would definitely be Brum, as would, I think B57. Solihull is IRRC
Bfortysomething. But wouldn't BS5 make it a suburb of Bristal?
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Niles
>
>It's like W1A 1AA, W1N 4DJ, W12 8QT and so on ... you hear them so often
>as addresses that they stay there. Similar to the way that 01-811-8181
>(which, fortunately, became 081 and 0181) still resides in the mind (and
>is still the BBC1 Saturday morning phone number)
>
Does anyone here remember the tune to 021 432 two thousand? Can anyone
remember who's number it used to be? :)
Niles
>
>Broadcasting Centre
>Pebble Mill Rd
>Edgbaston
>Birmingham
>West Midlands B5 7QQ
>Tel: 0121 432 8888
Shurely the "West Midlands" bit in that is redundant? I know Solihull
addresses use West Midlands *instead* of Birmingham ("Solihull is not in
Birmingham" says a friend of mine who lives there) for snobbery purposes,
but *both*?
I think any measure to shortening addresses is a positive measure, and
always give mine as
3 Street Name
POSTAL TOWN
UK POST CODE
With the UK bit being optional for when I'm giving the address to
furreigners. (and we did the postcode/uk bit here not long ago!)
But that could equally well be expressed:
3 Street Name
Green Lane
POSTAL TOWN
Herefordshire
POST CODE
Grossbritannien
Green Lane is not necessary, since there's only one Street Name, similarly
Herefordshire is not necessary since there's only one Postal Town.
(IYSWIM). Although a few years back, and despite using post codes, we
regularly got world weary packages that had obviously been through the
postal system more than once, and that were labelled
HEREFORDSHIRE *NOT* HERTFORDSHIRE
chris harrison
> B5 would definitely be Brum, as would, I think B57. Solihull is IRRC
> Bfortysomething. But wouldn't BS5 make it a suburb of Bristal?
BS is Bristol. Erm, rather than vice versa :)
B57 wouldn't necessarily have to be Brum per se. Quite what the
reasoning is for the numbers is beyond me, but in the London districts
there seems to be some form of alphabetic input (unlike the Parisian
spiral). Likewise, near Southampton, Chandlers Ford used to be SO5, but
had to be renumbered to allow for expansion and is now SO51 and SO52.
In Smethurst's book he mentions that the DoT gave Ambridge it's own B
road (B5390, IIRC, but I probably don't) and mentions that the Post
Office did similarly (without, again IIRC, using Pebble Mill's).
chris harrison
>
> In article <36A31DDF...@icparc.ic.ac.uk>, chris harrison
> <ca...@icparc.ic.ac.uk> writes
> >
> >as addresses that they stay there. Similar to the way that 01-811-8181
> >(which, fortunately, became 081 and 0181) still resides in the mind (and
> >is still the BBC1 Saturday morning phone number)
> >
> I making this up or am I thinking of something Before Your Time (scary
> thought)?
Not before my time, just out of my memory's reach at that point ....
chris harrison
> I wondered how long it would take you all to notice that Ambridge does
> have a postcode!
> Don't bother trying, because the sorting machines know about it, and
> will deal with it accordingly, like they do with all postcodes for
> non-real places.
Does a postcode with no actual function actually exist?
Just because the post office "created" it, what makes it more real than
me decided that my house should, henceforth, be ZZ1 1XY (or whatever)?
Peter Hesketh
writes
>Don't
>the 1950s seem a long time ago now.
They may do to you, sonny.
Peter Hesketh
<r...@cl.cam.ac.uk> quotes and writes
>
>>BTW, when did the Post Office cease using Alpha coding and drop the, IMHO
>>more pleasing practice of using place-names?
>
>the switch to what they're pleased to call all-figure numbers started
>back in the 70s (i think ... just on the limit of the things i
>remember ;-).
I think you're at cross purposes there. Didn't
they change from WHI 1212 to the numeric equivalent
when STD started, i.e. when 0BR2 was the new code
for Bristol, 0CA2 for Cardiff etc?
It was much later that 0BR2 and 0CA2 changed to
0272 and 0222.
George Middleton
>Quite what the
>reasoning is for the numbers is beyond me,
There are books.
Search Results from http www.amazon.co.uk
for: the keywords include "Postcodes"
2 items are shown below.
Postcodes: An International Survey and Guide to Their Structure and
Sources
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Our Price: £75.00 (Special Order)
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Our Price: £32.00 (Special Order)
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George
Niles
>
>Don't bother trying, because the sorting machines know about it, and
>will deal with it accordingly, like they do with all postcodes for
>non-real places.
>
File under d for dustbin?
Liz Blades
>Does anyone here remember the tune to 021 432 two thousand? Can anyone
>remember who's number it used to be? :)
No but it rings a bell.
Cheers
Liz
Rosalind C Mitchell
<afy...@unix.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk> writes
>B5 would definitely be Brum, as would, I think B57. Solihull is IRRC
>Bfortysomething. But wouldn't BS5 make it a suburb of Bristal?
Easton / Eastville in fact :)
Rosalind
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Chris McMillan
> ><ca...@icparc.ic.ac.uk> writes
> >>It's like W1A 1AA, W1N 4DJ, W12 8QT and so on ... you hear them so often
> >>as addresses that they stay there. Similar to the way that 01-811-8181
> >>(which, fortunately, became 081 and 0181) still resides in the mind (and
> >>is still the BBC1 Saturday morning phone number)
> for Marion Ryan in this morning's Times, who can remember her then? .
Only as the mother of the Ryan twins (?) Paul and Barry. Well, brothers
anyway.
Sincerely, Chris
--
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K Richard W
do on Mon, 18 Jan 1999 but add to village gossip with:
>
>> > W1N 4DJ,
>>
>> I give up.
>
>The studios next door including, inter alia, Radio One. ("win for DJ"
>....)
>
>
And hence the "4DJ" song which used to be on the Breakfast Show when C
Evans was with R1.
Somehow Virgin also now has a postcode ending in 4DJ (W1A perhaps) and
so the song remains relevant.
--
K Richard W
LSS super-numerary
K Richard W
do on Sun, 17 Jan 1999 but add to village gossip with:
>K Richard W wrote in message <5N6+0lAr...@studyroom.demon.co.uk>...
>>Do any of our regular contributors have a copy of "Ambridge - An
>English
>>Village through the Ages" which was originally published in 1981?
>>
>>This was written by the 'efffff' woman and published by Methuen.
>>Interestingly for those who have recently endured events on unnc the
>>Post Office issued a Postcode for the Ambridge locality.
>>
>>So can someone say what the postcode is please?
>>
I have a feeling that there may be something in this book about a true
local postcode for Ambridge ... Chris?
>I've found it in TATTS Richard. Apparently various VIPs were invited to
>Shula and Marks wedding. "The Archbishop of Canterbury unaccountably
>failed to reply. The Prime Minister and Denis Thatcher wrote expressing
>their regrets in a letter quite properly sent to Mr and Mrs Philip
>Archer, Brookfield Farm, Ambridge, Borchester B57 QQ."
>
>
>
Which of course 10 Downing Street sent c/o a post restante address also
occupied by Mr Smethurst at the time.
Robert Carnegie
<bla...@airtime.co.uk> writes
>Peter Hesketh <p...@phesk.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>Hands up those who know the significance of Whitehall 1212.
>
"Mr Campion reached for the telephone and dialled a famous
Whitehall number" ('The White Elephant', Margery Allingham)
>And when I was in premises with GMP
>our phone no. was +++ 832 1212 plus ext no. not really a coincidence
>I thought.
>
>Liz
I consulted the directory to confirm my impression that police
stations in Glasgow and hereabouts all have numbers 0141 xxx
1113 or similar, but it looks like they don't now: maybe they've
switched telephone providers for the free cable TV channels :-)
I'm sure Maryhill (0141 946) police used to be 1113.
Robert Carnegie at home, rja.ca...@mailexcite.com at large
--
"John O'Hanlan Smart, of Hendon, Tyne and Wear, used a manhole
cover to smash a shop window, then stepped back and fell down the
hole." (The Times, 1994)
Robert Carnegie
>, Niles <afy...@unix.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk> writes
>On Mon, 18 Jan 1999, Peter Hesketh wrote:
>
>>
>>Broadcasting Centre
>>Pebble Mill Rd
>>Edgbaston
>>Birmingham
>>West Midlands B5 7QQ
>>Tel: 0121 432 8888
>
>
>Shurely the "West Midlands" bit in that is redundant? I know Solihull
>addresses use West Midlands *instead* of Birmingham ("Solihull is not
>in
>Birmingham" says a friend of mine who lives there) for snobbery
>purposes,
>but *both*?
>
>I think any measure to shortening addresses is a positive measure, and
>always give mine as
>
>3 Street Name
>POSTAL TOWN
>UK POST CODE
My parents looked down on Kirkintilloch (foundries, boatyards
[canal]) after they moved from there to posher Lenzie (white collar,
150 years of railway commuters) which is now seamlessly joined
to it, and insisted on giving the address as Number / Street,
Lenzie, Glasgow, postcode and not the Post Office preferred
Number / Street, KIRKINTILLOCH, Postcode. (Snobbery, did you
say?) To keep them happy I wrote to Number / Street, Lenzie,
KIRKINTILLOCH, Glasgow, Postcode, though they would have
been happier had I done so more often - a good deal more so.
But then, you know what teenagers are.
Simon Townley
<ka...@semaphore.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <36A47C6D...@mail.tcd.ie>, Paddy Smith
> <smi...@mail.tcd.ie> writes
> >I'd like to swap Maggie Philbin for Zoe Ball, please Noel.
> I'll swap Keith Chegwin for anything you've got.
Pah! Swap Shop was for goody-goodys. Bring back Tiswas ... and Sally James ...
--
Simon Townley
Peter Hesketh
<si...@sudbury.demon.co.uk> writes
>Pah! Swap Shop was for goody-goodys. Bring back Tiswas ... and Sally James ...
Who was the female presenter on Saturday AM ITV who sounded like a
younger Sandy Toksvig?
Rex Belcher
Peter Hesketh wrote:
> In article <simon-20019...@sudbury.demon.co.uk>, Simon Townley
> <si...@sudbury.demon.co.uk> writes
> >Pah! Swap Shop was for goody-goodys. Bring back Tiswas ... and Sally James ...
AOL to that
>
>
> Who was the female presenter on Saturday AM ITV who sounded like a
> younger Sandy Toksvig?
I think that it was a younger Sandy Toksvig, if I remember right she was Ethel and
the programme name was a house number.
Rex
Colin Blackburn
> Peter Hesketh wrote:
> >
> > Who was the female presenter on Saturday AM ITV who sounded like a
> > younger Sandy Toksvig?
>
> I think that it was a younger Sandy Toksvig, if I remember right she was Ethel and
> the programme name was a house number.
>
Colin
--
Reply to: colin dot blackburn at physiol dot ox dot ac dot uk
George Middleton
>On Mon, 18 Jan 1999, Peter Hesketh wrote:
>
>>
>>Broadcasting Centre
>>Pebble Mill Rd
>>Edgbaston
>>Birmingham
>>West Midlands B5 7QQ
>>Tel: 0121 432 8888
>
>
>Shurely the "West Midlands" bit in that is redundant?
The address quoted is a multi-purpose address. It gives info to the
postie, who only needs the first line and pc; the chap who wants to look
it up on the AA Road Atlas, who will need lines 1, 3 & 4; the would-be
visitor who also needs line 2; and those who would telephone.
I agree that the West Midlands is redundant.
--
George
Kate Lambert
Townley <si...@sudbury.demon.co.uk> writes
>
>Pah! Swap Shop was for goody-goodys. Bring back Tiswas ... and Sally James ...
>
--
Kate Lambert
Robin Fairbairns
>In article <781qrv$ojn$1...@pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk>, Robin Fairbairns
><r...@cl.cam.ac.uk> quotes and writes
>>back in the 70s (i think ... just on the limit of the things i
>>remember ;-).
>
>I think you're at cross purposes there. Didn't
>they change from WHI 1212 to the numeric equivalent
>when STD started, i.e. when 0BR2 was the new code
>for Bristol, 0CA2 for Cardiff etc?
no.
trust me, i _know_ these things :-)
and whi 1212 became 212 1212, anyway -- definitely not a numeric
equivalent.
note that the dials always did do a translation of letters to numbers,
so
>It was much later that 0BR2 and 0CA2 changed to
>0272 and 0222.
was a change without a difference.
the phoneyday change of brissle to 0117 (and the change next year of
caerdydd to 029) was (will be) the `real' changes (01222 was i suppose
a change but it was etirely predictable, if stupid).
--
Robin Fairbairns, Cambridge
Penny Mayes
>On Wed, 20 Jan 1999 08:58:55 +0000, Rex Belcher wrote:
>> Peter Hesketh wrote:
>> >
>> > Who was the female presenter on Saturday AM ITV who sounded like a
>> > younger Sandy Toksvig?
>>
>> I think that it was a younger Sandy Toksvig, if I remember right she
was Ethel and
>> the programme name was a house number.
>>
>73
Yep, and it was Sandi Toksvig. The programme came from the Maidstone
studios and many of those 'orrible noisy kids attended the same school
as my daughters.
--
Penny remove the usual to reply
Earth is 98% full... please delete anyone you can.
chris harrison
>
> In article <wcMeZmBm4Jp2Ew$M...@semaphore.demon.co.uk>, Kate Lambert
> <ka...@semaphore.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > In article <36A47C6D...@mail.tcd.ie>, Paddy Smith
> > <smi...@mail.tcd.ie> writes
>
> > >I'd like to swap Maggie Philbin for Zoe Ball, please Noel.
>
> > I'll swap Keith Chegwin for anything you've got.
>
Ahhhh, yes. ITV. Never quite got the hang of Saturday mornings, did
they? Bill Oddie and the Saturday Banana, for example ....
chris harrison
> I have a feeling that there may be something in this book about a true
> local postcode for Ambridge ... Chris?
My memory of the book was that it said there was one but it didn't say
what it was.
Simon Townley
<ka...@semaphore.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <simon-20019...@sudbury.demon.co.uk>, Simon
> Townley <si...@sudbury.demon.co.uk> writes
> >
> >Pah! Swap Shop was for goody-goodys. Bring back Tiswas ... and Sally
James ...
> >
> Yeurkkk all that slime and gunk and custard :-)
But it's where you put it ... ;-)
--
Simon Townley
Andrew Stevenson
George Middleton wrote ...
>Peter Hesketh wrote:
>>Hands up those who know the significance of Whitehall 1212.
>
>second row, etc.
Wouldn't that be Whiteley 1212?
--
Andrew
Andrew Stevenson
Dave Mayall wrote ...
>K Richard W wrote:
>I wondered how long it would take you all to notice that Ambridge does
>have a postcode!
>
>I started working for the Post Office (IIRC, it was sometime 1992-95)
>
>From What I can remember from the Official Post Office Gazette notice;
>
>The Postcode sector is AM (odd when you consider that Ambridge is only
>a very minor part of the sector.
>
>The principal posttown is Borcester
>There may have been a Felpersham posttown
>Ambridge is a Note 3 Phantom posttown on Borcester
>
>This would make the correct postal address;
It's not in my Post Towns and Localities 1993.
Does it make it onto PAF?
I can't get it to appear on the searches available at
http://www.royalmail.co.uk/paf/ or any of the other internet postcode
searches.
--
Andrew
Paddy Smith
>
> In article <wcMeZmBm4Jp2Ew$M...@semaphore.demon.co.uk>, Kate Lambert
> <ka...@semaphore.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > In article <36A47C6D...@mail.tcd.ie>, Paddy Smith
> > <smi...@mail.tcd.ie> writes
>
> > >I'd like to swap Maggie Philbin for Zoe Ball, please Noel.
>
> > I'll swap Keith Chegwin for anything you've got.
>
Hah! I'll see your Sally James and raise you Matt Irvine making
unconvincing Blake's 7 spaceships from household objects. Tiswas?
phbhbhbhbttt!
Andrew Wineberg
shi...@beer.com (chris harrison) wrote:
> > BBC Television Centre, LONDON
> That fine building on Wood Lane.
Not to be confused with the other BBC buildings in the vicinity,
including the one opposite and the astoudingly beautiful and loved BBC
News Centre.
> Saturday Superstore?
Oh yes, I do remeber that now that you mention it. For some reason I
associate it with brown paper bags and Roland Rat.
--
AJW in Stanmore, HA7.
<URL:http://www.BTINTERNET.COM/~a.wineberg/> for my portrait and details
Andrew Wineberg
Niles <afy...@unix.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:
> Shurely the "West Midlands" bit in that is redundant?
Yes, of course. Royal Mail preferred format is without counties excpet
where necessary. Royal Mail also seem to be some of the worst culprits
when it comes to giving out addresses not in their preferred format. In
fact, my mother serttled an argument with me on this matter by phoning
the local RM 'Customer Service Centre' and asking if 'Middlesex' was
necessary in our address: they said that it was... which left me with
little on which to argue.
> I think any measure to shortening addresses is a positive measure, and
> always give mine as
> 3 Street Name
> POSTAL TOWN
> UK POST CODE
Although I can understand why Royal Mail might like the postcode after
the country, it does somewhat upset my sensibilities to see this. I
should prefer that the country (which, by the way, for international
postal purposes is "Great Britain" or "Grande Bretagne" if we are to be
correct) come last.
> With the UK bit being optional for when I'm giving the address to
> furreigners.
Shurely the UK bit is not optional fur furiners?
> (and we did the postcode/uk bit here not long ago!)
So? No-one complains when the /Archers/ keeps cropping up here.
Niles
>Niles <afy...@unix.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>
>>Does anyone here remember the tune to 021 432 two thousand? Can anyone
>>remember who's number it used to be? :)
>
>No but it rings a bell.
>
Shurely *someone*?
Back when listening to the radio after 9pm had to be done in secret and
under the covers, I used to listen to the programme broadcast on the
frequency of BBC Hereford & Worcester, but also broadcast to all the local
radio stations in the Midlands area. (After midnight, they all became R2
clones, I couldn't say if they still do) The last hour up to midnight used
to be a phone in, for which the number was 021 432 2000. Of course, the
same number was also for requests, dedications, and if you thought you
knew the answer.
Min Lacey
say....
>I think any measure to shortening addresses is a positive measure, and
>always give mine as
>
>3 Street Name
>POSTAL TOWN
>UK POST CODE
>
Be careful with that UK bit - a letter of mine from the States to here
took 5 months once - they obviously (from the postmarks) read UK as the
Ukraine and went looking for the mysterious town of Glsozdd...
--
Min
Had a bad day today?
Remember, it takes 47 muscles to frown
And only 4 to pull the trigger of a sniper rifle....
Al Menzies
<Ch...@mikesounds.demon.co.uk> spake thus:
>In article <36a45...@news1.mcmail.com>, Martin Drew
><URL:mailto:m...@cwcom.net> wrote:
> There is an obituary
>> for Marion Ryan in this morning's Times, who can remember her then? .
>
>Only as the mother of the Ryan twins (?) Paul and Barry. Well, brothers
>anyway.
You were right the first time - they were twins. They attempted a pop
career back in the 60s and were in one of the many concerts I went to
then (probably one with Roy Orbison starring). Saw them up close -
they had drawn-on moustaches :-/
al
Penny Mayes
<48C774000A%A.Win...@BTINTERNET.COM>...
>In message <Pine.SOL.4.05.9901191714330.9654-100000@granby>
> Niles <afy...@unix.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>> Shurely the "West Midlands" bit in that is redundant?
>
>Yes, of course. Royal Mail preferred format is without counties excpet
>where necessary. Royal Mail also seem to be some of the worst culprits
>when it comes to giving out addresses not in their preferred format. In
>fact, my mother serttled an argument with me on this matter by phoning
>the local RM 'Customer Service Centre' and asking if 'Middlesex' was
>necessary in our address: they said that it was... which left me with
>little on which to argue.
I received a Christmas card from my sister-in-law (with gift voucher
enclosed) about 10 days after Christmas. It had been posted down the
coast in Whitstable in good time, but s-i-l's eyesight is extremely bad
these days and looking up postcodes is definitely not an option for her.
She had addressed the envelope <village name> Kent. Postmarks showed
that it had travelled up to Tyneside (couldn't figure out why) and then
to Tredegar in Gwent which seemed more reasonable since Tredegar is
quite similar to the name of our village and a badly written Kent could
be mistaken for Gwent by a busy post sorter.
chris harrison
A.Win...@BTINTERNET.COM says...
> In message <MPG.110dce19...@news.cc.ic.ac.uk>
> shi...@beer.com (chris harrison) wrote:
> > Saturday Superstore?
>
> Oh yes, I do remeber that now that you mention it. For some reason I
> associate it with brown paper bags and Roland Rat.
Did RR defect? He started out life on TVAM.
Bring back Errol the Hamster :)
--
The Archers Plot Summaries
http://www.bogo.co.uk/lowfield/archers/
Fred Dowson
> In article <36A31DDF...@icparc.ic.ac.uk>, chris harrison
> <ca...@icparc.ic.ac.uk> writes
> I read that and all out of the blue my brain's come up with 01 811 8055.
Am
> I making this up or am I thinking of something Before Your Time (scary
> thought)?
> --
> Kate Lambert
> The Swap Shop generation
>
This number is the right one for Swap Shop. I remember it as Oi, oi'l BOSS
for some strange, sad reason.
--
Fred Dowson
LEEDS
Semper in stercum summus, solum profundus variat
K Richard W
do on Tue, 19 Jan 1999 but add to village gossip with:
Another lurker flushed - who is counting?
>
>The principal posttown is Borcester
Borchester surely?
>There may have been a Felpersham posttown
>Ambridge is a Note 3 Phantom posttown on Borcester
>
>This would make the correct postal address;
>
>xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Ambridge
>BORCESTER
>Borsetshire
>AMx xxx
>
>Don't bother trying, because the sorting machines know about it, and
>will deal with it accordingly, like they do with all postcodes for
>non-real places.
>
So the story that postcodes did not exist is untrue and whoever alleged
contacting the PO was lying then? (unnc discussions passim?)
Liz Blades
>Pah! Swap Shop was for goody-goodys. Bring back Tiswas ... and Sally James ...
My next door neighbours nephew was once on swap shop as a very spotty
12 year old.He (the nephew)is now a pilot for BA so guess who is
waiting for him to be the pilot on a plane I'm on?
Worth an upgrade to keep my mouth shut don't you think?
:-)
Liz
>--
>Simon Townley
Jenny M Benson
<A.Win...@BTINTERNET.COM> writes
>Yes, of course. Royal Mail preferred format is without counties excpet
>where necessary. Royal Mail also seem to be some of the worst culprits
>when it comes to giving out addresses not in their preferred format.
By way of an attempt to entice me to enter a competition and donate to
charity, I was sent "a small congratulatory gift for getting this far"
which was some name and address labels.
The text was laid out on 6 lines, as follows:
Title, initials and surname
Village
Road
Flat number and house name
Postal town
Post code.
--
Jenny M Benson
Robert Carnegie
> Niles <afy...@unix.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:
>>
>> POSTAL TOWN
>> UK POST CODE
>
>the country, it does somewhat upset my sensibilities to see this. I
>should prefer that the country (which, by the way, for international
>postal purposes is "Great Britain" or "Grande Bretagne" if we are to be
>correct) come last.
Look at it this way: the post code _isn't_ part of the address -
except in parts of London which no longer have names anyone
remembers (I seem to recall a crowd of umrats describing their
locations thus) - it just needs to be there underneath it. How do
your sensibilities feel now?
Robert Carnegie at home, rja.ca...@mailexcite.com at large
--
"John O'Hanlan Smart, of Hendon, Tyne and Wear, used a manhole
cover to smash a shop window, then stepped back and fell down the
hole." (The Times, 1994)
Kate Brown
Penny Mayes <ma...@peTHEUSUALmail.net> wrote
>I received a Christmas card from my sister-in-law (with gift voucher
>enclosed) about 10 days after Christmas. It had been posted down the
>coast in Whitstable in good time, but s-i-l's eyesight is extremely bad
>these days and looking up postcodes is definitely not an option for her.
>She had addressed the envelope <village name> Kent. Postmarks showed
>that it had travelled up to Tyneside (couldn't figure out why) and then
>to Tredegar in Gwent which seemed more reasonable since Tredegar is
>quite similar to the name of our village and a badly written Kent could
>be mistaken for Gwent by a busy post sorter.
We've had several letters through the years addressed to Brown@Brixton
which have gone via Brixton in Devon in spite of (correct) postcodes.
--
Kate B
London
to...@my-dejanews.com
chris harrison <ca...@icparc.ic.ac.uk> wrote:
> Dave Mayall wrote:
> > I wondered how long it would take you all to notice that Ambridge does
> > have a postcode!
> > Don't bother trying, because the sorting machines know about it, and
> > will deal with it accordingly, like they do with all postcodes for
> > non-real places.
>
A functional postcode pointing to the wrong place used to exist - National
Girobank in Bootle had the postcode G1R 0AA (odd because Bootle is in
Merseyside and G1 is a Glasgow postcode).
>
> Just because the post office "created" it, what makes it more real than
> me decided that my house should, henceforth, be ZZ1 1XY (or whatever)?
>
Nothing - you could also decide that the street you live on was called "Unter
Den Linden", that the address of your house was "Sixth one past the little
red Fergie" and that the town where you live was called "Hetherington Parva
cum Blossworth". The Post Office might have a hard time delivering things to
you if you tried to use that as your address, though!
--
Tony Walton
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Dave Mayall
>
> On Mon, 18 Jan 1999, Peter Hesketh wrote:
>
> >
> >Broadcasting Centre
> >Pebble Mill Rd
> >Edgbaston
> >Birmingham
> >West Midlands B5 7QQ
> >Tel: 0121 432 8888
>
> addresses use West Midlands *instead* of Birmingham ("Solihull is not in
> Birmingham" says a friend of mine who lives there) for snobbery purposes,
> but *both*?
PAF gives the correct address as;
British Broadcasting Corporation
Pebble Mill Road
BIRMINGHAM
B5 7QQ
--
Dave Mayall
The views expressed are mine and may not be those of my employer
Private e-mail to david....@ukonline.co.uk please
Dave Mayall
>
> Dave Mayall wrote:
> > I wondered how long it would take you all to notice that Ambridge does
> > have a postcode!
> ....
> > Don't bother trying, because the sorting machines know about it, and
> > will deal with it accordingly, like they do with all postcodes for
> > non-real places.
>
> Does a postcode with no actual function actually exist?
Postcodes exist which have no function in terms of the sortation of mail,
I am aware of only 2 sectors which have been allocated;
AM - Ambridge
FX - Fairfax
The latter is a fictional place used by the post office for training and
testing purposes.
> Just because the post office "created" it, what makes it more real than
> me decided that my house should, henceforth, be ZZ1 1XY (or whatever)?
Because the one the PO created will work!
Dave Mayall
> So the story that postcodes did not exist is untrue and whoever alleged
> contacting the PO was lying then? (unnc discussions passim?)
No, the postcodes don't exist, in the sense that they are not on the PAF,
the sectors have been reserved by the PO for use in drama.
Dave Mayall
> It's not in my Post Towns and Localities 1993.
>
> Does it make it onto PAF?
>
> I can't get it to appear on the searches available at
> http://www.royalmail.co.uk/paf/ or any of the other internet postcode
> searches.
It isn't in PAF, it has been allocated by the PO for use in drama.
If I can find the back issues I'll try to post it.
Jim Easterbrook
>In article <48C7738F46%A.Win...@BTINTERNET.COM>,
>A.Win...@BTINTERNET.COM says...
>>
>> associate it with brown paper bags and Roland Rat.
>
>Did RR defect? He started out life on TVAM.
Did he? I thought he joined TVAM from elsewhere, thus becoming the only
rat in history to join a sinking ship.
--
Jim Easterbrook <jim.eas...@rd.bbc.co.uk> <http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/>
1959/39/11ish M B++ G+ A L I- S- P-- CH-(p) Ar++ T+ H0 Q--- Sh0
*** All opinions are mine and are not necessarily shared by the BBC ***
Robin Fairbairns
>K Richard W escribió en mensaje <GOoMsEA0...@studyroom.demon.co.uk> :
>
>>So the story that postcodes did not exist is untrue and whoever alleged
>>contacting the PO was lying then? (unnc discussions passim?)
wasn't it dave mayall who said the postcodes didn't exist (he
was the one who phoned the archbish of cantuar, i think).
now he's telling us he was porking at us. i think he should note
master aitken's recent fall from grace :-)
>Yeah. Shall we start all over again?
no no no no no anything but that!
--
Robin Fairbairns, Cambridge
Niles
>Although I can understand why Royal Mail might like the postcode after
>the country, it does somewhat upset my sensibilities to see this. I
>should prefer that the country (which, by the way, for international
>postal purposes is "Great Britain" or "Grande Bretagne" if we are to be
>correct) come last.
>
Well, when I'm not being brief, I like Royaume Uni or Vereinigtes
Koenigreich, as they're a little less usual. But Great Britain leads to
arguments with people "Why is it great?"
Why is it great? Is it to avoid confusion with Brittany?
--
"[This] is what a young man ought to be. | Niles im Ausland
Whatever be his persuits, his eagerness in | ICQ UIN 12724766
them should know no moderation, and leave |
him no sense of fatigue." | www.niles.zetnet.co.uk
Chris McMillan
<URL:mailto:richard....@studyroom.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> As ever I was enchanted by Penny Mayes, who had nothing better to
> do on Sun, 17 Jan 1999 but add to village gossip with:
>
> >K Richard W wrote in message <5N6+0lAr...@studyroom.demon.co.uk>...
> >>Do any of our regular contributors have a copy of "Ambridge - An
> >English
> I have a feeling that there may be something in this book about a true
> local postcode for Ambridge ... Chris?
>
> >I've found it in TATTS Richard. Apparently various VIPs were invited to
> >Shula and Marks wedding. "The Archbishop of Canterbury unaccountably
> >failed to reply. The Prime Minister and Denis Thatcher wrote expressing
> >their regrets in a letter quite properly sent to Mr and Mrs Philip
> >Archer, Brookfield Farm, Ambridge, Borchester B57 QQ."
>
No, whoever posted this last bit is right.
Sincerely Chris
--
Mrs. Chris McMillan. Tel. 0118 926 5450. e-mail:
ch...@mikesounds.demon.co.uk http://www.mikesounds.demon.co.uk/Family.htm
Chris McMillan
<URL:mailto:a...@betterwords.u-net.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Jan 1999 22:47:31 +0000, Chris McMillan
> <Ch...@mikesounds.demon.co.uk> spake thus:
>
> >In article <36a45...@news1.mcmail.com>, Martin Drew
> ><URL:mailto:m...@cwcom.net> wrote:
>
> > There is an obituary
> >> for Marion Ryan in this morning's Times, who can remember her then? .
> >
> >Only as the mother of the Ryan twins (?) Paul and Barry. Well, brothers
> >anyway.
>
> You were right the first time - they were twins. They attempted a pop
> career back in the 60s
They were very popular in the 60s as I remember: and even Toodles knows
'Eloise' from my description of it. (This is a man who seems to have slept
through the sixties so far as pop music is concerned).
One of my friends was as staunch a Big O fan as anyone could be. I don't
think she ever saw him 'live' though as she was wheelchair bound from a
child. In those days you just 'didn't' do theatres etc. if you were
wheelchair bound. She certainly had everything he recorded - and I learnt
from her husband recently that he'd bought her all his work on CD before she
died last year. (Another one who seems to have slept through the sixties as
far as the music was concerned - though in this case his mind was on higher
things like Mozart's 'K' numbers. Nothing, but nothing, came between him and
his Saturdays shut up in Coventry's reference library and I should know: I
was his girlfriend for about a year of that decade)!
>
Sincerely, Chris (who still hasn't been to a 'pop' concert)
Andrew Wineberg
Jim Easterbrook <jim.eas...@rd.bbc.co.uk> wrote:
> Did he? I thought he joined TVAM from elsewhere, thus becoming the only
> rat in history to join a sinking ship.
I thought that he had been brought into TV-AM as part of the station's
successful re-launch. Incidentally, the only TV-AM I ever saw was the
last one.
Chris McMillan
<URL:mailto:afy...@unix.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Jan 1999, Andrew Wineberg wrote:
>
> >Although I can understand why Royal Mail might like the postcode after
> >the country, it does somewhat upset my sensibilities to see this. I
> >should prefer that the country (which, by the way, for international
> >postal purposes is "Great Britain" or "Grande Bretagne" if we are to be
> >correct) come last.
> >
>
> Well, when I'm not being brief, I like Royaume Uni or Vereinigtes
> Koenigreich, as they're a little less usual. But Great Britain leads to
> arguments with people "Why is it great?"
>
> Why is it great? Is it to avoid confusion with Brittany?
>
peruse N Carta for that rather than looking for astronauts in shorts.
Sincerely, Chris
Alan Craig
<afy...@unix.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:
>Well, when I'm not being brief, I like Royaume Uni or Vereinigtes
>Koenigreich, as they're a little less usual. But Great Britain leads to
>arguments with people "Why is it great?"
>
>Why is it great? Is it to avoid confusion with Brittany?
That's exactly right. Brittany was "little Britain"
Alan
Mike Ellwood
: Mr Smethurst goes on to speculate what might have happened if the Soviet
: Ambassador and his wife had not been away on holiday on the wedding day.
: Apparently road directions had been included with the invitations for
: those who had not been to Ambridge before. He imagines H E and Madam
: Popova wandering round Worcestershire in their embassy car, desperately
: trying to find the B3980 to Borchester or inquiring in vain for the
: turning to Waterly Cross.
And what they might have said to suspicious policemen "...oh yeah,
you're the Russian Ambassador and I'm the head of SMERSH. Now just
blow into this bag sir...".
--
Mike.E...@rl.ac.uk
Mike Ellwood
Can someone please remind me why the Scotland Yard number,
WHI 1212 always used to be being given out on the radio?
Was it for assistance in serious cases in our relatively more
crime-free past?
I presume the modern equivalent is Crimewatch UK and its lookalikes,
where a variety of different contact numbers is given out, depending
on the particular crime.
Speaking of "lookalikes", I lost all the respect I used to have for
the famous Stalker when I saw him sitting on a TV-settee waving the
camera pathetically goodbye at the end of "Crimestalker" or whatever
it is called. Perhaps he has improved now.
--
Mike.E...@rl.ac.uk
John B
wrote:
Seconded! And let's avoid the L word in umra?
But credit where credit's due - I think Mr M made a point worthy of a TA
follower there.
--
John B. {jcb}@avism.demon.co.uk
chris harrison
jim.eas...@rd.bbc.co.uk says...
> In article <MPG.1110625d6...@news.cc.ic.ac.uk>, chris harrison <shi...@beer.com> wrote:
> >In article <48C7738F46%A.Win...@BTINTERNET.COM>,
> >A.Win...@BTINTERNET.COM says...
> >>
> >> Oh yes, I do remeber that now that you mention it. For some reason I
> >> associate it with brown paper bags and Roland Rat.
> >
> >Did RR defect? He started out life on TVAM.
>
> rat in history to join a sinking ship.
I recognise that headline, so you could well be right.
Mike Ellwood
: >Well, when I'm not being brief, I like Royaume Uni or Vereinigtes
: >Koenigreich, as they're a little less usual. But Great Britain leads to
: >arguments with people "Why is it great?"
: >
: >Why is it great? Is it to avoid confusion with Brittany?
: That's exactly right. Brittany was "little Britain"
Which reminds me: Margaret Thatcher was the woman who put
"grate" back into Great Britain...
--
Mike.E...@rl.ac.uk
Dave Mayall
> Well, when I'm not being brief, I like Royaume Uni or Vereinigtes
> Koenigreich, as they're a little less usual. But Great Britain leads to
> arguments with people "Why is it great?"
>
> Why is it great? Is it to avoid confusion with Brittany?
It is the largest of the British Isles, it is not unknown for
the largest of an island group to be so named. e.g. Grand Canaria
Dave Mayall
>
> andy roberts <andy...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote:
> >K Richard W escribió en mensaje <GOoMsEA0...@studyroom.demon.co.uk> :
> >
> >>So the story that postcodes did not exist is untrue and whoever alleged
> >>contacting the PO was lying then? (unnc discussions passim?)
>
> wasn't it dave mayall who said the postcodes didn't exist (he
> was the one who phoned the archbish of cantuar, i think).
Twas me that made the point that you lot couldn't find a postcode for
the Archers, but I never rang the archbishop.
> now he's telling us he was porking at us. i think he should note
> master aitken's recent fall from grace :-)
You can't prove it, because you still can't find a postcode for Ambridge!
> >Yeah. Shall we start all over again?
>
> no no no no no anything but that!
Good idea.
Dave Mayall
> A functional postcode pointing to the wrong place used to exist - National
> Girobank in Bootle had the postcode G1R 0AA (odd because Bootle is in
> Merseyside and G1 is a Glasgow postcode).
The second character is not the numeric 1, it is an alpha I
George Middleton
> But Great Britain leads to
>> arguments with people "Why is it great?"
I assume that by people you mean Germans, who didn't know it was great.
They thought it was gross.
--
George
Robin Fairbairns
>Niles escribió
>>Well, when I'm not being brief, I like Royaume Uni or Vereinigtes
>>arguments with people "Why is it great?"
however, this has a tendency to confuse people. i spent a long time
on a (free) phone call in the states trying to establish the cost of
mailing something back to the uk. it was only after much faffing
around that i discovered that if i said "england" the log jam was
magically unblocked.
it's difficult, when you've spent two weeks saying "the uk
considers..." (in your best pompous voice, at a standards meeting) to
come down to earth with a bump and admit that you come from a
particular one of the ks in the u.
>>Why is it great? Is it to avoid confusion with Brittany?
that's my understanding.
>It isn't Great , it's Big.
it _is_ great, in the usage that was common at the time the phrase was
invented.
--
Robin Fairbairns, Cambridge
Robin Fairbairns
>Robin Fairbairns wrote:
>> wasn't it dave mayall who said the postcodes didn't exist (he
>> was the one who phoned the archbish of cantuar, i think).
>
>Twas me that made the point that you lot couldn't find a postcode for
>the Archers, but I never rang the archbishop.
sigh. i'm getting old... sorry.
>> now he's telling us he was porking at us. i think he should note
>> master aitken's recent fall from grace :-)
>
>You can't prove it, because you still can't find a postcode for Ambridge!
don't be so sure: it has never occurred to me to look. yet.
otoh, we're not yet in an on-going litigation (and i trust we never
will be) so there's a good chance i shall merely try and forget the
whole sorry business...
>> >Yeah. Shall we start all over again?
>>
>> no no no no no anything but that!
>
>Good idea.
i do have some.
--
Robin Fairbairns, Cambridge
Alan Craig
> i spent a long time
>on a (free) phone call in the states trying to establish the cost of
>mailing something back to the uk. it was only after much faffing
>around that i discovered that if i said "england" the log jam was
>magically unblocked.
>
There is a complementary problem in other countries, I had
great trouble in a Norwegian post office trying to send
something to the United Kingdom (de forente kongerike),
as soon as they heard 'de forente' the assumed the next
word was going to be 'stater'. 'Storbritannia' works a treat
though.
Alan Craig
roberts) wrote:
>Alan Craig escribió en mensaje <36a7afb4...@news.u-net.com> :
>
>>On Thu, 21 Jan 1999 19:25:13 +0000, Niles
>><afy...@unix.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Great Britain leads to
>>>arguments with people "Why is it great?"
>>>
>>>Why is it great? Is it to avoid confusion with Brittany?
>>
>>That's exactly right. Brittany was "little Britain"
>
>Come of it. How would the gauloises[0] have had the foresight to name
>the peninsular "little Britain" just in case they happened to discover
>an enormous great island offshore one day in the future?
Because it was named by Welsh and Irish missionaries around the
6th century...
to...@my-dejanews.com
Dave Mayall <may...@postoffice.co.uk> wrote:
> to...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>
> > A functional postcode pointing to the wrong place used to exist - National
> > Girobank in Bootle had the postcode G1R 0AA (odd because Bootle is in
> > Merseyside and G1 is a Glasgow postcode).
>
> The second character is not the numeric 1, it is an alpha I
Is that even structurally OK? I've come across
letter number (for instance N12 or L7)
letter letter number (for instance YO8 or GU15)
letter letter number letter (for instance SW1W OR WC1A)
but no postcode seems to have no numerics in the first part of the code. Was
this code validated specially?
--
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martin
>You can't prove it, because you still can't find a postcode for Ambridge!
>
Charles?
I think you could be the very person so cast light on something that has
puzzled me for years. Can it really be true, as it seemed, that the
Ashton under Lyne sorting office employed someone to cross out the words
Greater Manchester or Tameside from incoming envelopes and write the
word Lancashire instead?
--
"maz" Martin up in t' Pennines.
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