HorseboxHarry

[Vicky]

Fb has nicknamed him this and they and I are mostly not keen on him.
Plus why did SWs HAVE to end the GP chat by not telling us what is his
medical problem. Many do not like how Harry treated Chris. He kept
using his name and explaining how farriers do their job.

Some say his mum is after a trophy wife, hence the very manoeuvred
dress shopping date. Jenny did manage to be that wife, could have
advised, and also wrote for a newspaper a bit, didn't she? But I don't
like Harry enough to make it worth it and think he might be short term
and die.Maybe mum wants a baby mother she can control because of
entail.

Or some say the date is so mum can explain what is wrong with Harry.
Or maybe Alice is good enough for a short time, to make his last
months happy and mum won't explain. Does mum know Alice is an
alcoholic? Did Harry actually meet Martha at The Bull? Does Brian
really like him? Would Jenny have been more cautious?

[Kate B]

And where is Harry's dad? And who is his mother going to a Valentine's
ball with?

--
Kate B

[john ashby]

In the compost bay at one of his garden centres if current trends in
script writing are anything to go by.

On his mother's behaviour I would say Harry has mental health issues he
has so far failed to disclose to Alice - either post accident depression
or addiction to prescription painkillers. "How are you in yourself?"
would be a standard question to ask someone in either of those cases.

The other possibility is that Harry's accident (everything has to track
back to the accident, it's a Chekov's pistol) precipitated a painful
breakup with a woman his mother was looking forward to having as a
daughter-in-law and the shopping trip is a clumsy attempt to repeat that
relationship.

john

[Vicky]

On Wed, 7 Feb 2024 14:32:07 +0000, john ashby <johna...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

I just somehow got the impression from the talk with his Dr that the
problem was physical as test results had come back BICBAM

[kosmo]

On 7.2.24 11:35, Vicky wrote:
> Fb has nicknamed him this and they and I are mostly not keen on him.
> Plus why did SWs HAVE to end the GP chat by not telling us what is his
> medical problem. Many do not like how Harry treated Chris. He kept
> using his name and explaining how farriers do their job.
>
> Some say his mum is after a trophy wife, hence the very manoeuvred
> dress shopping date. Jenny did manage to be that wife, could have
> advised, and also wrote for a newspaper a bit, didn't she? But I don't
> like Harry enough to make it worth it and think he might be short term
> and die.Maybe mum wants a baby mother she can control because of
> entail.
>
> Or some say the date is so mum can explain what is wrong with Harry.

I don't think she knows - she was simply asking about his hip.

> Or maybe Alice is good enough for a short time, to make his last
> months happy and mum won't explain.

She can tell Harry is stricken and wants to know Alice better.

Does mum know Alice is an
> alcoholic?

Not that we know - I very much doubt Harry has mentioned it.

Did Harry actually meet Martha at The Bull?

We don't know - but she would have seen Harry with her mother I suspect.

Does Brian
> really like him?

Brian always said Chris was a starter marriage. And in reality Brian
has little choice.

Would Jenny have been more cautious?

Unlikely, she was a girl who threw caution to the wind.


--
Kosmo Richard W
www.travelswmw.whitnet.uk
https://tinyurl.com/KRWpics

[kosmo]

On 7.2.24 14:32, john ashby wrote:
> The other possibility is that Harry's accident (everything has to track
> back to the accident, it's a Chekov's pistol) precipitated a painful
> breakup with a woman his mother was looking forward to having as a
> daughter-in-law

Did it not end his first marriage (no doubt another starter marriage)?

[john ashby]

On 08/02/2024 09:13, kosmo wrote:
> On 7.2.24 11:35, Vicky wrote:
>> Fb has nicknamed him this and they and I are mostly not keen on him.
>> Plus why did SWs HAVE to end the GP chat by not telling us what is his
>> medical problem.  Many do not like how Harry treated Chris. He kept
>> using his name and explaining how farriers do their job.
>>
>> Some say his mum is after a trophy wife, hence the very  manoeuvred
>> dress shopping date.  Jenny did manage to be that wife, could have
>> advised, and also wrote for a newspaper a bit, didn't she? But I don't
>> like Harry enough to make it worth it and think he might be short term
>> and die.Maybe mum wants a baby mother she can control because of
>> entail.
>>
>> Or some say the date is so mum can explain what is wrong with Harry.
>
> I don't think she knows - she was simply asking about his hip.
>
>> Or maybe Alice is good enough for a short time, to make his last
>> months happy and mum won't explain.
>
> She can tell Harry is stricken and wants to know Alice better.
>

Interesting choice of word. I would have gone with 'smitten' though they
both have violent undertones.

john

[Wenlock]

kosmo <ko...@whitnet.uk> wrote:


> Does mum know Alice is an
> alcoholic?

She does now.

[Chris]

Nasty bit of work Mrs Horsebox the elder.

Mrs McT

[john ashby]

Possibly over-protective of her dear little boy, but apparently Harry
has a revelation to make this evening which may explain her concern - an
alcoholic parent or husband (we've wondered where he is, perhaps The
Priory), substance abise issues for the previous fiancee, some other
part of his which is broken (psychologically) that Mummy regards as
making deal with another broken psyche difficult.

If it's the last of those is Alice strong enough to fix Harry while
she's fixing herself?

john

[Vicky]

On Fri, 9 Feb 2024 16:59:10 +0000, john ashby <johna...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

I think Harry's medical problem is physical as it was test results we
heard the Dr (Adil's sister) telling him about, up to the actual
detail of what is wrong. How full of suspense that is! And 10 days
later we still don't nuggering know. Short term? End of life?
infectious?

[Serena Blanchflower]

If it was liver damage, caused by his addiction to prescription
painkillers, that would fit both ideas.

--
Best wishes, Serena
I hope to God the doctor finds something wrong with me because I'd hate
to feel like this if I was well! (Anon)

[Sam Plusnet]

Well if it's infectious, enough time has passed for the whole county to
have caught it.

"The Strange Case of the Borsetshire Plague."

--
Sam Plusnet

[J. P. Gilliver]

In message <uq5lku$2n74e$3...@dont-email.me> at Fri, 9 Feb 2024 16:59:10,
john ashby <johna...@yahoo.com> writes
[]

>part of his which is broken (psychologically) that Mummy regards as
>making deal with another broken psyche difficult.
>
>If it's the last of those is Alice strong enough to fix Harry while
>she's fixing herself?
>
>john

Sometimes a shared fixing can help both partners. (Allegedly. I'm always
dubious.) But if his is equally serious but different, probably not.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

"quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur". ("Anything is more impressive if
you say it in Latin")

[Serena Blanchflower]

On 09/02/2024 23:17, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
> In message <uq5lku$2n74e$3...@dont-email.me> at Fri, 9 Feb 2024 16:59:10,
> john ashby <johna...@yahoo.com> writes
> []
>> part of his which is broken (psychologically) that Mummy regards as
>> making deal with another broken psyche difficult.
>>
>> If it's the last of those is Alice strong enough to fix Harry while
>> she's fixing herself?
>>
>> john
>
> Sometimes a shared fixing can help both partners. (Allegedly. I'm always
> dubious.) But if his is equally serious but different, probably not.

With the added problem that he isn't being open about his problems,
whatever they may prove to be. Alice may be strong enough to support
Harry, while he's fixing himself, especially if he's supporting her own
efforts at recovery. That's very different from expecting Alice to fix
Harry while she's fixing herself, and he's sitting there denying that
there's a problem.

--
Best wishes, Serena
Inside every old person is a young person wondering what happened.
(Terry Pratchett)

[Chris]

I see an over protective mum of a weak willed adult. No idea how old he
might be but Aliss is 36/37.

Brine seems to have come to his senses a bit over his wayward brats since
Jenny died.

Mrs McT

[Vicky]

On Sat, 10 Feb 2024 09:28:47 +0000, Serena Blanchflower
<nos...@blanchflower.me.uk> wrote:

>On 09/02/2024 23:17, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
>> In message <uq5lku$2n74e$3...@dont-email.me> at Fri, 9 Feb 2024 16:59:10,
>> john ashby <johna...@yahoo.com> writes
>> []
>>> part of his which is broken (psychologically) that Mummy regards as
>>> making deal with another broken psyche difficult.
>>>
>>> If it's the last of those is Alice strong enough to fix Harry while
>>> she's fixing herself?
>>>
>>> john
>>
>> Sometimes a shared fixing can help both partners. (Allegedly. I'm always
>> dubious.) But if his is equally serious but different, probably not.
>
>With the added problem that he isn't being open about his problems,
>whatever they may prove to be. Alice may be strong enough to support
>Harry, while he's fixing himself, especially if he's supporting her own
>efforts at recovery. That's very different from expecting Alice to fix
>Harry while she's fixing herself, and he's sitting there denying that
>there's a problem.

I didn't like him as soon as he sneaked a meeting with Chris, and
still don't. Why hasn't the gossip locally worked both ways so Susan
has heard stuff about him? He patronises Chris, jumped on Alice too
fast and tried for closeness, to meet Martha, too soon. His mother
seems unbalanced, even for a parent trying to protect her son, or the
bloodline. Or an entail if Harry is dying? But she decided an
alcoholic mother of heir would be too hard to control?

[kosmo]

On 9.2.24 17:52, Vicky wrote:
> I think Harry's medical problem is physical as it was test results we
> heard the Dr (Adil's sister) telling him about, up to the actual
> detail of what is wrong.

The good lady wife had a blood test on Wednesday and she had the results
on her app yesterday (Saturday) and all of the major results show no
problems and the minor ones seem to be better than at the time of the
last such test.

We assume NFA.

[kosmo]

On 10.2.24 09:45, Chris wrote:
> I see an over protective mum of a weak willed adult. No idea how old he
> might be but Aliss is 36/37.

I believe that H might be about the same age - it is some time since his
eventing days and marriage breakdown and so on so the same sort of age?
His mother started off sounding younger.

[Mike McMillan]

kosmo <ko...@whitnet.uk> wrote:
> On 9.2.24 17:52, Vicky wrote:
>> I think Harry's medical problem is physical as it was test results we
>> heard the Dr (Adil's sister) telling him about, up to the actual
>> detail of what is wrong.
>
> The good lady wife had a blood test on Wednesday and she had the results
> on her app yesterday (Saturday) and all of the major results show no
> problems and the minor ones seem to be better than at the time of the
> last such test.
>
> We assume NFA.
>

I was talking to my doctor on a consultation a few months ago and she
looked at my readings as I am Type 2 Diabetic (diet controlled) - she then
said that my readings were lower than hers (with a slight trace of envy in
her tone of voice) she is a fairly slim active lady. 😊

--
Toodle Pip, Mike McMillan

[Vicky]

>her tone of voice) she is a fairly slim active lady. ?

Our GP surgery is locally known as the worst in the area. To talk to a
GP you have to ring and tell a receptionist your problem to be triaged
to a GP and calling at 8.30a.m can mean 20 calls ahead of you and they
run out of appointments before you get through. But amazingly a few
weeks ago I got a call saying it was my annual check up and how was I!
I said recovering from my broken arm, which she had no idea about
although it should have been the last item on the record as the
hospital writes to th GP, She was one I'd not heard of.

She wanted to book a blood test for thyroid levels as mine is
underactive and I take pills. I said they'd never done an annual
health check before, and I usually had to request a blood test,
although they should be six-monthly, and was told they did a certain
number. I said B needed regular checks for asthma but hadn't been
offered one for 4 or 5 years and they said it was from a list.

They booked 2 weeks ahead on 1/2/24, and on that date took blood,
according to the nurse for 5 tests. Usually you check results in a
week, which she confirmed. But I got a phone call from a GP next day
to say the thyroid result meant a change in pills. Three other tests
were ok and one still to come. So the pill level was increased. Not
heard about the final result and will have to brace myself to ring and
speak to reception and then book to talk to a GP if needed. They
usually try and make you talk to the practice pharmacist, which is no
good as they can't authorise blood tests or change meds.

I'm still waiting for a bone density scan result which is 2 months
now. I asked about that when I had the blood taken and the
receptionist said she'd ask a GP and she rang me later to say my named
one had emailed the hospital to enquire. I was very surprised as I'd
expected to have to check with her again.

B says they must be getting payments now for thyroid tests but the
asthma ones have stopped.

[Vicky]

On Sun, 11 Feb 2024 18:23:35 +0000, Vicky <vicky...@gmail.com>
wrote:

When reception triages you to a GP that is almost always a phone call.
They don't actually see many people.

[kosmo]

Some years ago after a blood test the good lady wife was concerned about
one of the measures not being within the prescribed range. The good
lady doctor said her own readings were about three times worse and not
to worry.

[kosmo]

On 11.2.24 18:39, Vicky wrote:
>> B says they must be getting payments now for thyroid tests but the
>> asthma ones have stopped.

That seems to be how it works these days. Perhaps we are just both cynical.

> When reception triages you to a GP that is almost always a phone call.
> They don't actually see many people.

I do know that no-one actually seems to work in our local surgery
building. I feel that WFH or whatever the doctors are doing is not
conducive to best practice of actually seeing patients.

[Vicky]

On Mon, 12 Feb 2024 10:05:35 +0000, kosmo <ko...@whitnet.uk> wrote:

>On 11.2.24 18:39, Vicky wrote:
>>> B says they must be getting payments now for thyroid tests but the
>>> asthma ones have stopped.
>
>That seems to be how it works these days. Perhaps we are just both cynical.
>
>> When reception triages you to a GP that is almost always a phone call.
>> They don't actually see many people.
>
>I do know that no-one actually seems to work in our local surgery
>building. I feel that WFH or whatever the doctors are doing is not
>conducive to best practice of actually seeing patients.

I saw an actual Dr during lockdown! That was the last time. I'd been
having falls and they called me in that day but the Dr was one
borrowed from A&E locally, so probably getting GP experience.. He
examined me, then went to talk to another Dr and came back saying
which blood test should be done; He got them booked as I'd have had to
ring and get through to reception later otherwise;

[Chris]

kosmo <ko...@whitnet.uk> wrote:
> On 11.2.24 18:39, Vicky wrote:
>>> B says they must be getting payments now for thyroid tests but the
>>> asthma ones have stopped.
>
> That seems to be how it works these days. Perhaps we are just both cynical.
>
>> When reception triages you to a GP that is almost always a phone call.
>> They don't actually see many people.
>
> I do know that no-one actually seems to work in our local surgery
> building. I feel that WFH or whatever the doctors are doing is not
> conducive to best practice of actually seeing patients.
>

The docs certainly are working. Very nice to be able to drop a note into
them and know I’ll get either a phone call or a prescription. We can now
ring up first thing, and by pressing ‘9’, they’ll ring back. No charge to
me. I have been suspicious and sat on the phone for 55 mins but keeping an
ear on it.

I have to see nursie from time to time. Gone is the noisy waiting area.
There isn’t actually space any more as a lot of internal work has been done
to carve out extra consulting areas for pharmacist and more nurses. Both
practices probably have the sane number of consulting rooms but ours is the
older building on one level rather than a dodgy lift or steep steps over
the top of Lidl!

Mrs McT