Kate Aldridge from the Archers (was Re: Lynda La Hughes Fan Club)
Peter H.M. Brooks
hi...@bris.ac.uk "CG Luxford" writes:
>
> There, done it.
>
> So does everybody else think that Kate is a good thing?
>
This is naughty, you should know that there is a whole newsgroup for
this sort of thing, uk.media.radio.archers.
Kate is a good thing in much the same way that AIDS, TB and plebvision
are.
--
Peter H.M. Brooks
Be generous and liberal in your attitude to irrational creatures and to the
generality of material things, for you have reason and they have none
- Marcus Aurelius.
CG Luxford
On Fri, 13 Aug 1999, Peter H.M. Brooks wrote:
> hi...@bris.ac.uk "CG Luxford" writes:
>
> > There, done it.
> >
> > So does everybody else think that Kate is a good thing?
> >
> This is naughty, you should know that there is a whole newsgroup for
> this sort of thing, uk.media.radio.archers.
>
> Kate is a good thing in much the same way that AIDS, TB and plebvision
> are.
>
Oooh, you rotter. Kates fab. She's my kind of woman. And being a radio
character I'm not at all affected by what the actress who plays here
looks like, so I can imagine her looking like anyone I want.
Chris,
John Lynch
Luxford <hi...@bris.ac.uk> writes
>
>>
>> > There, done it.
>> >
>> > So does everybody else think that Kate is a good thing?
>> >
>> This is naughty, you should know that there is a whole newsgroup for
>> this sort of thing, uk.media.radio.archers.
>>
>Well, you've cross posted it there, so that's OK.
>
>> Kate is a good thing in much the same way that AIDS, TB and plebvision
>> are.
>>
>Oooh, you rotter. Kates fab. She's my kind of woman. And being a radio
>character I'm not at all affected by what the actress who plays here
>looks like, so I can imagine her looking like anyone I want.
>
Kate Aldridge isn't a real person
--
John Lynch
Trade War Now!
CG Luxford
On Fri, 13 Aug 1999, John Lynch wrote:
> CG Luxford <hi...@bris.ac.uk> writes
> >
> >> > There, done it.
> >> >
> >> > So does everybody else think that Kate is a good thing?
> >> >
> >> This is naughty, you should know that there is a whole newsgroup for
> >> this sort of thing, uk.media.radio.archers.
> >>
> >Well, you've cross posted it there, so that's OK.
> >
> >> Kate is a good thing in much the same way that AIDS, TB and plebvision
> >> are.
> >>
> >Oooh, you rotter. Kates fab. She's my kind of woman. And being a radio
> >character I'm not at all affected by what the actress who plays here
> >looks like, so I can imagine her looking like anyone I want.
> >
> Allow me to point out that, unlike the original subject of this thread,
> Kate Aldridge isn't a real person
Er, I thought the original subject of this thread was a character
played by Cathy Burke. While I have no doubt that Cathy Burke is real,
as indeed is whoever plays the part of Kate Aldridge, any character she
plays is only a character, and therefore not real.
Chris,
John Lynch
Luxford <hi...@bris.ac.uk> writes
>
>> >
>> Allow me to point out that, unlike the original subject of this thread,
>> Kate Aldridge isn't a real person
>
>Er, I thought the original subject of this thread was a character
>played by Cathy Burke. While I have no doubt that Cathy Burke is real,
>as indeed is whoever plays the part of Kate Aldridge, any character she
>plays is only a character, and therefore not real.
>
nonsense. Linda lives!
Peter H.M. Brooks
hi...@bris.ac.uk "CG Luxford" writes:
>
> > Kate is a good thing in much the same way that AIDS, TB and plebvision
> > are.
> >
> Oooh, you rotter. Kates fab. She's my kind of woman. And being a radio
> character I'm not at all affected by what the actress who plays here
> looks like, so I can imagine her looking like anyone I want.
>
Well, you can be pretty sure that she dresses badly, has various forms
of self-mutilation and walks around with a permanent scowl on her face,
angry with the world that she believes owes here a living - if you find
that attractive it is your funeral.
Nick Leverton
>> Kate Aldridge isn't a real person
>
>Er, I thought the original subject of this thread was a character
>played by Cathy Burke. While I have no doubt that Cathy Burke is real,
>as indeed is whoever plays the part of Kate Aldridge, any character she
>plays is only a character, and therefore not real.
You haven't quite got the hang of this FotWD thing, have you ? :-)
Nick
Robin Fairbairns
>> >Oooh, you rotter. Kates fab. She's my kind of woman. And being a radio
>> >character I'm not at all affected by what the actress who plays here
>> >looks like, so I can imagine her looking like anyone I want.
>>
>> Kate Aldridge isn't a real person
>
>Er, I thought the original subject of this thread was a character
>played by Cathy Burke. While I have no doubt that Cathy Burke is real,
>as indeed is whoever plays the part of Kate Aldridge, any character she
>plays is only a character, and therefore not real.
'ere, this is surreal. people cross-posting to umra arguing about the
nature of reality.
--
Robin Fairbairns, Cambridge
Peter H.M. Brooks
r...@cl.cam.ac.uk "Robin Fairbairns" writes:
> >> Allow me to point out that, unlike the original subject of this thread,
> >> Kate Aldridge isn't a real person
> >
> >Er, I thought the original subject of this thread was a character
> >played by Cathy Burke. While I have no doubt that Cathy Burke is real,
> >as indeed is whoever plays the part of Kate Aldridge, any character she
> >plays is only a character, and therefore not real.
>
> 'ere, this is surreal. people cross-posting to umra arguing about the
> nature of reality.
>
Better than being too close to Kate Aldridge that would probably make one
all too aware of the olifactory reality of nature.
Nick Leverton
r...@betsy.cl.cam.ac.uk (Robin Fairbairns) writes:
>
>'ere, this is surreal.
Self referential ?
N.
John B
Shshsh... Pretend we're not in.
--
John B. {jcb}@avism.demon.co.uk
CG Luxford
On Fri, 13 Aug 1999, Nick Leverton wrote:
> CG Luxford <hi...@bris.ac.uk> writes:
> >On Fri, 13 Aug 1999, John Lynch wrote:
> >> >
> >> Kate Aldridge isn't a real person
> >
> >Er, I thought the original subject of this thread was a character
> >played by Cathy Burke. While I have no doubt that Cathy Burke is real,
> >as indeed is whoever plays the part of Kate Aldridge, any character she
> >plays is only a character, and therefore not real.
>
>
Chris,
CG Luxford
On Fri, 13 Aug 1999, Peter H.M. Brooks wrote:
> hi...@bris.ac.uk "CG Luxford" writes:
>
> > > Kate is a good thing in much the same way that AIDS, TB and plebvision
> > > are.
> > >
> > character I'm not at all affected by what the actress who plays here
> > looks like, so I can imagine her looking like anyone I want.
> >
> of self-mutilation and walks around with a permanent scowl on her face,
> angry with the world that she believes owes here a living - if you find
> that attractive it is your funeral.
>
badly, that's surely a matter of personal taste. She certainly doesn't
dress as badly as all those people who wear football shirts and shell
suits, that much polyester has to be a fire risk. As for self mutilation
I doubt she's got more than a little bit of facial piercing (ears, a
couple of times, one or two nose rings, possibly an eyebrow, maybe a
lip) and maybe some pseudo Celtic tattoos on her upper arms.
Chris,
Peter H.M. Brooks
hi...@bris.ac.uk "CG Luxford" writes:
>
> > Well, you can be pretty sure that she dresses badly, has various forms
> > of self-mutilation and walks around with a permanent scowl on her face,
> > angry with the world that she believes owes here a living - if you find
> > that attractive it is your funeral.
> >
> I Can't say that I've ever thought of her as scowling. As for dressing
> badly, that's surely a matter of personal taste. She certainly doesn't
> dress as badly as all those people who wear football shirts and shell
> suits, that much polyester has to be a fire risk. As for self mutilation
> I doubt she's got more than a little bit of facial piercing (ears, a
> couple of times, one or two nose rings, possibly an eyebrow, maybe a
> lip) and maybe some pseudo Celtic tattoos on her upper arms.
>
All insecure girls of that age with pc predelictions go about scowling,
it is a sort of uniform that they have to wear.
It is only a peculiar form of hey-wow snobbery that would keep her
out of shell suits.
I see you agree about the mutilation, though.
--
Peter H.M. Brooks
To be in process of change is not an evil, any more than to be the
product of change is a good.
- Marcus Aurelius.
Nick Leverton
Ah. Well, The Archers is clearly not a soap opera of any conventional
bent in the way that it interacts more than usual with real life, so in
umra, where disbelief is willingly suspended to a greater than average
degree in the interests of discussion, the tenet is that it's a Fly On
The Wall Documentary. The daily broadcasts are in fact captured by
hidden microphones around the village of Ambridge, and, well, the
characters are treated as being as real as the actors, sometimes even
more so.
That is of course even before we get into the question of the existence
of Lynda Snell in her own right, or in fact our multiple Lynda Snells
(the one channelled by Carol Boyd being merely primus intra paris, as La
Snell would undoubtedly say).
And then there is the question of whether Borsetshire is real enough to
have a uk.local newsgroup ...
Nick
Nick Leverton
John B <j...@nospam.demon.co.uk> writes:
>On Fri, 13 Aug 1999(23:12:37), Nick Leverton
><lev...@warren.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>In article <7p23f7$7l$1...@pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk>
>> r...@betsy.cl.cam.ac.uk (Robin Fairbairns) writes:
>>>
>>>'ere, this is surreal.
>>
>>Self referential ?
>
>Shshsh... Pretend we're not in.
I'm not.
Nick
CG Luxford
On Sat, 14 Aug 1999, Peter H.M. Brooks wrote:
> hi...@bris.ac.uk "CG Luxford" writes:
>
> > > Well, you can be pretty sure that she dresses badly, has various forms
> > > of self-mutilation and walks around with a permanent scowl on her face,
> > > angry with the world that she believes owes here a living - if you find
> > > that attractive it is your funeral.
> > >
> > I Can't say that I've ever thought of her as scowling. As for dressing
> > badly, that's surely a matter of personal taste. She certainly doesn't
> > dress as badly as all those people who wear football shirts and shell
> > suits, that much polyester has to be a fire risk. As for self mutilation
> > I doubt she's got more than a little bit of facial piercing (ears, a
> > couple of times, one or two nose rings, possibly an eyebrow, maybe a
> > lip) and maybe some pseudo Celtic tattoos on her upper arms.
> >
> All insecure girls of that age with pc predelictions go about scowling,
> it is a sort of uniform that they have to wear.
Is she insecure? I don't know that she is really. And I can't say I've
seen much evidence for large scale scowling among young women.
> It is only a peculiar form of hey-wow snobbery that would keep her
> out of shell suits.
>
General good sense I'd have thought. Shell suits are the work of the
Devil.
> I see you agree about the mutilation, though.
>
Not at all, or at least I don't consider the piercings and tattoos to be
mutilation. Admittedly it's many years now since I last wore a nosering,
but that doesn't mean that I find then unnatractive on others.
Chris,
CG Luxford
On Sat, 14 Aug 1999, Nick Leverton wrote:
> CG Luxford <hi...@bris.ac.uk> writes:
> >On Fri, 13 Aug 1999, Nick Leverton wrote:
> >> CG Luxford <hi...@bris.ac.uk> writes:
> >> >On Fri, 13 Aug 1999, John Lynch wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> Allow me to point out that, unlike the original subject of this thread,
> >> >> Kate Aldridge isn't a real person
> >> >
> >> >Er, I thought the original subject of this thread was a character
> >> >played by Cathy Burke. While I have no doubt that Cathy Burke is real,
> >> >as indeed is whoever plays the part of Kate Aldridge, any character she
> >> >plays is only a character, and therefore not real.
> >>
> >> You haven't quite got the hang of this FotWD thing, have you ? :-)
> >>
> >I don't know, what does FotWD stand for?
>
> Ah. Well, The Archers is clearly not a soap opera of any conventional
> bent in the way that it interacts more than usual with real life,
True, though isn't Kate supposed to have had her baby in the Tipi FIeld
at Glastonbury in 1998? Cos I have some friends who were in that field
at the time, and they didn't notice anything.
> so in
> umra, where disbelief is willingly suspended to a greater than average
> degree in the interests of discussion, the tenet is that it's a Fly On
> The Wall Documentary. The daily broadcasts are in fact captured by
> hidden microphones around the village of Ambridge, and, well, the
> characters are treated as being as real as the actors, sometimes even
> more so.
>
Ah, I knew that not as I am not a regular in umra, indeed I'm nt really
in it now as I'm reading the cross post in scb.
> That is of course even before we get into the question of the existence
> of Lynda Snell in her own right, or in fact our multiple Lynda Snells
Multiple Lynda Snells? What a terrifying thought.
> (the one channelled by Carol Boyd being merely primus intra paris, as La
> Snell would undoubtedly say).
>
> And then there is the question of whether Borsetshire is real enough to
> have a uk.local newsgroup ...
>
I don't see why not.
Chris,
Peter H.M. Brooks
hi...@bris.ac.uk "CG Luxford" writes:
>
> > All insecure girls of that age with pc predelictions go about scowling,
> > it is a sort of uniform that they have to wear.
>
> Is she insecure? I don't know that she is really. And I can't say I've
> seen much evidence for large scale scowling among young women.
>
Of course it isn't large scale - you would find that sort of scowl on
middle aged divas.
>
> > It is only a peculiar form of hey-wow snobbery that would keep her
> > out of shell suits.
> >
> General good sense I'd have thought. Shell suits are the work of the
> Devil.
>
I must disagree strongly with that. The Devil has far, far better taste.
If mythical figure was responsible for shell suits it would probably be
a hindu god [hindu temples are generally packed with kitsch], or the
catholic god that likes those horribly kitschy plaster jesuses with big
red hearts sticking out of their rib cages.
>
> > I see you agree about the mutilation, though.
> >
> Not at all, or at least I don't consider the piercings and tattoos to be
> mutilation. Admittedly it's many years now since I last wore a nosering,
> but that doesn't mean that I find then unnatractive on others.
>
How ever attractive you may find mutilation, it remains mutilation. I think
it is an interesting return to a tribalism one expects to find in the amazon
basin, rather than Broadmead [it is places like Broadmead that are filled
with shell suited mutilated savages with dyed hair or bared scalps].
Peter H.M. Brooks
>
> > And then there is the question of whether Borsetshire is real enough to
> > have a uk.local newsgroup ...
> >
> I don't see why not.
>
Would one also then have uk.local.mordor [twinned with London], or
uk.local.narnia [after hot dispute about it being more properly in
uk.furniture.exotic]?
One nice quiet group would be uk.local.wonderland, with a moderator
who only allowed Alices.
Charles F Hankel
("Peter H.M. Brooks") wrote:
> In article <Pine.SOL.4.05.990815...@eis.bris.ac.uk>
> hi...@bris.ac.uk "CG Luxford" writes:
>
> > > And then there is the question of whether Borsetshire is real enough to
> > > have a uk.local newsgroup ...
> > >
> > I don't see why not.
> >
> Would one also then have uk.local.mordor [twinned with London], or
> uk.local.narnia [after hot dispute about it being more properly in
> uk.furniture.exotic]?
>
> One nice quiet group would be uk.local.wonderland, with a moderator
> who only allowed Alices.
I object to this, speaking as a dormouse myself, you understand.
Life's tough enough as it is without being excluded by blatant
genusism and sexism.
--
Charles F Hankel
-------------------------------------
Hapless FAQer on the Wirral peninsula
http://www.mersinet.co.uk/~hankel/uf/umrafaq.html
Charles F Hankel
wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Aug 1999, Nick Leverton wrote:
> >
> > Ah. Well, The Archers is clearly not a soap opera of any conventional
> > bent in the way that it interacts more than usual with real life,
>
> True, though isn't Kate supposed to have had her baby in the Tipi FIeld
> at Glastonbury in 1998? Cos I have some friends who were in that field
> at the time, and they didn't notice anything.
The scenes were recorded in the Tipi Field, in a teepee. Maybe your
chums had been indulging in something distracting at the time? I
probably would have been.
K Richard W
our lives would be enhanced by the following comments:
>> And then there is the question of whether Borsetshire is real enough to
>> have a uk.local newsgroup ...
>>
>I don't see why not.
We look forward to your support the next time the RFD is posted. On the
other hand some of us might not like the invective which goes with such
an outing.
--
K Richard W
LSS super-numerary
Peter H.M. Brooks
cha...@hankel.mersinet.co.uk "Charles F Hankel" writes:
> > Would one also then have uk.local.mordor [twinned with London], or
> > uk.local.narnia [after hot dispute about it being more properly in
> > uk.furniture.exotic]?
> >
> > One nice quiet group would be uk.local.wonderland, with a moderator
> > who only allowed Alices.
>
> I object to this, speaking as a dormouse myself, you understand.
> Life's tough enough as it is without being excluded by blatant
> genusism and sexism.
>
Dormice, Red Queens, white rabbits et al, would, be there already, because
they live there. Only Alices would be allowed to visit.
Rosie Mitchell
>Would one also then have uk.local.mordor [twinned with London], or
>uk.local.narnia [after hot dispute about it being more properly in
>uk.furniture.exotic]?
I did raise the question of whether one could have a uk.local.ankh-
morpork, and this was dismissed not because ankh-morpork didn't exist
but because it wasn't in the UK. On the other hand, Borsetshire is most
definitely in the UK. As is Holby, by the way, because I live there and
have even frequented the Kellaway Fish Bar which is known to be in Holby
from a number of appearances on Casualty.
>One nice quiet group would be uk.local.wonderland, with a moderator
>who only allowed Alices.
My cat, Alice, thinks this is a wonderful idea but hopes the moderator
could be persuaded to allow spiders, mice and small birds too.
Rosie
--
Rosalind Mitchell - ICQ 13609015 - http://www.aida.demon.co.uk/rosie
"If there is one wish I would pray the Spirit to put into our Christmas
stockings, it is warmth, openness, passion, a bit of emotion that doesn't mind
making a fool of itself occasionally" [Gerald Priestland]
CG Luxford
On Sun, 15 Aug 1999, Peter H.M. Brooks wrote:
> hi...@bris.ac.uk "CG Luxford" writes:
>
> > > All insecure girls of that age with pc predelictions go about scowling,
> > > it is a sort of uniform that they have to wear.
> >
> > Is she insecure? I don't know that she is really. And I can't say I've
> > seen much evidence for large scale scowling among young women.
> >
> Of course it isn't large scale - you would find that sort of scowl on
> middle aged divas.
> >
> > > It is only a peculiar form of hey-wow snobbery that would keep her
> > > out of shell suits.
> > >
> > General good sense I'd have thought. Shell suits are the work of the
> > Devil.
> >
> I must disagree strongly with that. The Devil has far, far better taste.
I didn't for one moment suggest that he wears them.
> If mythical figure was responsible for shell suits it would probably be
> a hindu god [hindu temples are generally packed with kitsch], or the
> catholic god that likes those horribly kitschy plaster jesuses with big
> red hearts sticking out of their rib cages.
> >
Hmmm, I think you could be onto something here.
> > > I see you agree about the mutilation, though.
> > >
> > Not at all, or at least I don't consider the piercings and tattoos to be
> > mutilation. Admittedly it's many years now since I last wore a nosering,
> > but that doesn't mean that I find then unnatractive on others.
> >
> How ever attractive you may find mutilation, it remains mutilation. I think
> it is an interesting return to a tribalism one expects to find in the amazon
> basin, rather than Broadmead
Tribalism is certainly a part of it.
Kate Aldridge associates with Eco Warriors, travellers and neo-pagans,
and amongst these sections of society there is a very strong sense of
tribal identity. Most obviously the Donga Tribe who came out of the
Twyford Down protests in the early 90s, as well as some of the
travelling sound systems, such as Spiral Tribe, who came out of the
underground rave and free festival scene.
Chris,
CG Luxford
On Sun, 15 Aug 1999, Charles F Hankel wrote:
> Under the influence of direct sunshine, CG Luxford <hi...@bris.ac.uk>
> > >
> > > Ah. Well, The Archers is clearly not a soap opera of any conventional
> > > bent in the way that it interacts more than usual with real life,
> >
> > True, though isn't Kate supposed to have had her baby in the Tipi FIeld
> > at Glastonbury in 1998? Cos I have some friends who were in that field
> > at the time, and they didn't notice anything.
>
> The scenes were recorded in the Tipi Field, in a teepee. Maybe your
> chums had been indulging in something distracting at the time? I
> probably would have been.
>
the field and simply not noticed. I remember the issue was raised after
we discovered that the Rinky Dink bicycle powered sound system was to be
relaying the Archers omnibus at this years Glastonbury festival.
Chris,
Colin Blackburn
<Pine.SOL.4.05.990816...@eis.bris.ac.uk>, CG Luxford
wrote:
>
> On Sun, 15 Aug 1999, Peter H.M. Brooks wrote:
> > How ever attractive you may find mutilation, it remains mutilation. I think
> > it is an interesting return to a tribalism one expects to find in the amazon
> > basin, rather than Broadmead
I'm not sure mutilation is the right word to describe voluntary
decorative piercings and tattoos. Most of the definitions I have seem of
'mutilate' are very negative, the word coming from the Latin for 'maim'.
The only partly positive definition I have to hand is 'to deform by
slitting, boring or removing a part' but even that seems to have a
negative edge to it.
>
> Tribalism is certainly a part of it.
>
> Kate Aldridge associates with Eco Warriors, travellers and neo-pagans,
> and amongst these sections of society there is a very strong sense of
> tribal identity. Most obviously the Donga Tribe who came out of the
> Twyford Down protests in the early 90s, as well as some of the
> travelling sound systems, such as Spiral Tribe, who came out of the
> underground rave and free festival scene.
>
> Chris,
Chris, when did you move to Bristol? Yours is a name I remember very
well from york.talk
Colin
--
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i like my anarquismo sin adjetives
and my coffee without milk
Peter H.M. Brooks
hi...@bris.ac.uk "CG Luxford" writes:
>
> > > > It is only a peculiar form of hey-wow snobbery that would keep her
> > > > out of shell suits.
> > > >
> > > General good sense I'd have thought. Shell suits are the work of the
> > > Devil.
> > >
> > I must disagree strongly with that. The Devil has far, far better taste.
>
> I didn't for one moment suggest that he wears them.
>
Ah, I misunderstood you, sorry!
>
> > How ever attractive you may find mutilation, it remains mutilation. I think
> > it is an interesting return to a tribalism one expects to find in the amazon
> > basin, rather than Broadmead
>
> Tribalism is certainly a part of it.
>
> Kate Aldridge associates with Eco Warriors, travellers and neo-pagans,
> and amongst these sections of society there is a very strong sense of
> tribal identity. Most obviously the Donga Tribe who came out of the
> Twyford Down protests in the early 90s, as well as some of the
> travelling sound systems, such as Spiral Tribe, who came out of the
> underground rave and free festival scene.
>
A 'Donga' is the South African for a ditch, from the Zulu, so presumably
they came out of an troglodytic camp as well.
Peter H.M. Brooks
phys...@ermine.ox.ac.uk "Colin Blackburn" writes:
> > > it is an interesting return to a tribalism one expects to find in the amazon> > > basin, rather than Broadmead
>
> I'm not sure mutilation is the right word to describe voluntary
> decorative piercings and tattoos. Most of the definitions I have seem of
> 'mutilate' are very negative, the word coming from the Latin for 'maim'.
> The only partly positive definition I have to hand is 'to deform by
> slitting, boring or removing a part' but even that seems to have a
> negative edge to it.
>
It seems to describe the practice perfectly. Mutilations are generally
operations that are difficult to reverse and likely sites for infection.
There is nothing to suggest that mutilation is not voluntary. There is a
major problem in the Eastern Cape at the moment, with young men getting
enthusiastic about tribal religions and getting themselves circumcised
en masse, often with rusty, frequently re-used razor blades and not
anaesthetic. This is a major problem, not just because of the normal
infection rate, and problems with unstemmed bleeding, but also because
of the high risk of AIDS transmission, AIDS being endemic to most of
Africa these days. All of this is done quite willingly.
CG Luxford
On Mon, 16 Aug 1999, Peter H.M. Brooks wrote:
> hi...@bris.ac.uk "CG Luxford" writes:
>
> > > > > It is only a peculiar form of hey-wow snobbery that would keep her
> > > > > out of shell suits.
> > > > >
> > > > General good sense I'd have thought. Shell suits are the work of the
> > > > Devil.
> > > >
> > > I must disagree strongly with that. The Devil has far, far better taste.
> >
> > I didn't for one moment suggest that he wears them.
> >
> Ah, I misunderstood you, sorry!
> >
> > > How ever attractive you may find mutilation, it remains mutilation. I think
> > > basin, rather than Broadmead
> >
> >
> > Kate Aldridge associates with Eco Warriors, travellers and neo-pagans,
> > and amongst these sections of society there is a very strong sense of
> > tribal identity. Most obviously the Donga Tribe who came out of the
> > Twyford Down protests in the early 90s, as well as some of the
> > travelling sound systems, such as Spiral Tribe, who came out of the
> > underground rave and free festival scene.
> >
> A 'Donga' is the South African for a ditch, from the Zulu, so presumably
> they came out of an troglodytic camp as well.
>
language as well. They called themselves the Donga tribe because they
were defending an iron age hill fort and ditches and things.
They hadn't started using tunnels at that stage in eco activism, so
their camps weren't trogolodytic.
Chris,
Robin Somes
>> > Kate Aldridge associates with Eco Warriors, travellers and neo-pagans,
>> > and amongst these sections of society there is a very strong sense of
>> > tribal identity. Most obviously the Donga Tribe who came out of the
>> > Twyford Down protests in the early 90s, as well as some of the
>> > travelling sound systems, such as Spiral Tribe, who came out of the
>> > underground rave and free festival scene.
>> >
>> A 'Donga' is the South African for a ditch, from the Zulu, so presumably
>> they came out of an troglodytic camp as well.
>>
>I believe that there is a similar meaning for the word in another
>language as well. They called themselves the Donga tribe because they
>were defending an iron age hill fort and ditches and things.
>Chris,
Dongas was the name of an area of land around Twyford Down, once or
still owned by Winchester College, which if I remember rightly had a
peculiar set of ancient ruts or ditches across it. I think it was this
area that the tribe named themselves after. Perhaps they squatted on it
(no pun intended).
cheers,
robin
Peter H.M. Brooks
>
> > > Twyford Down protests in the early 90s, as well as some of the
> > > travelling sound systems, such as Spiral Tribe, who came out of the
> > > underground rave and free festival scene.
> > >
> > A 'Donga' is the South African for a ditch, from the Zulu, so presumably
> > they came out of an troglodytic camp as well.
> >
> I believe that there is a similar meaning for the word in another
> language as well. They called themselves the Donga tribe because they
> were defending an iron age hill fort and ditches and things.
>
> They hadn't started using tunnels at that stage in eco activism, so
> their camps weren't trogolodytic.
>
Well, a donga is below the ground, and you described the other crew as
'underground', so troglodytic appeared appropriate.
Peter H.M. Brooks
richard....@tesco.net "K Richard W" writes:
> >> And then there is the question of whether Borsetshire is real enough to
> >> have a uk.local newsgroup ...
> >>
> >I don't see why not.
>
> We look forward to your support the next time the RFD is posted. On the
> other hand some of us might not like the invective which goes with such
> an outing.
>
Think of the outing as a picnic, and the invective as dishes that others
contribute to make the picnic more interesting. That way, you can enjoy
the outing, and compose your own invective as you would a salad, or a
trifle. That way you don't get all the emotional bother that seems so
to distress some people. If you offer a particularly good salad in return
for a rather limp and soggy 'mother's pride' and corned beef offering
that somebody else has come up with, you will gain the admiration of
your fellow picnicers, and, frequently, leave the offerer of the
inadequate repast with no alternative but to go home scorned.
Simon Townley
> In article <3KRU+QBa...@tesco.net>
> richard....@tesco.net "K Richard W" writes:
>
> > >> And then there is the question of whether Borsetshire is real enough to
> > >> have a uk.local newsgroup ...
> > >>
> > >I don't see why not.
> >
> > We look forward to your support the next time the RFD is posted. On the
> > other hand some of us might not like the invective which goes with such
> > an outing.
> >
> Think of the outing as a picnic, and the invective as dishes that others
> contribute to make the picnic more interesting. That way, you can enjoy
> the outing, and compose your own invective as you would a salad, or a
> trifle. That way you don't get all the emotional bother that seems so
> to distress some people. If you offer a particularly good salad in return
> for a rather limp and soggy 'mother's pride' and corned beef offering
> that somebody else has come up with, you will gain the admiration of
> your fellow picnicers, and, frequently, leave the offerer of the
> inadequate repast with no alternative but to go home scorned.
Indeed. Scorned, and jammed, and creamed. With a port of tea in the ear.
--
Simon Townley
CG Luxford
On Sun, 15 Aug 1999, K Richard W wrote:
> On Sun, 15 Aug 1999, I was milking the cows when CG Luxford felt that
> our lives would be enhanced by the following comments:
>
> >> have a uk.local newsgroup ...
> >>
> >I don't see why not.
>
> We look forward to your support the next time the RFD is posted.
If I notice it.
Chris,
Nick Leverton
Charles F Hankel <cha...@hankel.mersinet.co.uk> wrote:
>Under the influence of direct sunshine, pe...@psyche.demon.co.uk
>("Peter H.M. Brooks") wrote:
>
>> who only allowed Alices.
>
>Life's tough enough as it is without being excluded by blatant
>genusism and sexism.
And what about tiggers, like me ? Thoughtful, introspective tiggers
admittedly, but enough people have called me one that I must be noticably
bouncy[1]. Is there a general name for Christopher Robin's Places[2],
so that we can have a uk.local group too ?
Nick
[1] especially when giving it some [3]
[2] no smut now, please.
[3] [2]
Peter H.M. Brooks
lev...@warren.demon.co.uk "Nick Leverton" writes:
> >
> >genusism and sexism.
>
> And what about tiggers, like me ? Thoughtful, introspective tiggers
> admittedly, but enough people have called me one that I must be noticably
> bouncy[1]. Is there a general name for Christopher Robin's Places[2],
> so that we can have a uk.local group too ?
>
Buckingham Palace was one - it would fit with the Alices too.
John Lynch
<lev...@warren.demon.co.uk> writes
>In article <37c23e23...@news.mersinet.co.uk>,
>Charles F Hankel <cha...@hankel.mersinet.co.uk> wrote:
>>Under the influence of direct sunshine, pe...@psyche.demon.co.uk
>>("Peter H.M. Brooks") wrote:
>>
>>> One nice quiet group would be uk.local.wonderland, with a moderator
>>> who only allowed Alices.
>>
>>I object to this, speaking as a dormouse myself, you understand.
>>Life's tough enough as it is without being excluded by blatant
>
>And what about tiggers, like me ? Thoughtful, introspective tiggers
>admittedly, but enough people have called me one that I must be noticably
>bouncy[1]. Is there a general name for Christopher Robin's Places[2],
>so that we can have a uk.local group too ?
>
too, for Moley and Toad and me
(And Ratty, natch)
--
John Lynch
Four hours to opening time, God help us. Have we got any embrocation?
Simon Townley
lev...@warren.demon.co.uk (Nick Leverton) wrote:
> And what about tiggers, like me ? Thoughtful, introspective tiggers
> admittedly, but enough people have called me one that I must be noticably
> bouncy[1]. Is there a general name for Christopher Robin's Places[2],
> so that we can have a uk.local group too ?
Eeyore (aka RF) will be able to advise whether or not we should lobby for
a uk.local.hundred_aker_wood group.
And then Rabbit (aka CHankel) can take all his friends and relations on
another Expotition to unnc.
Tiddly pom.
--
Simon Townley
Robin Fairbairns
>And what about tiggers, like me ? Thoughtful, introspective tiggers
>admittedly, but enough people have called me one that I must be noticably
>bouncy[1]. Is there a general name for Christopher Robin's Places[2],
>so that we can have a uk.local group too ?
all that stuff was written about the area christopher milne[*] grew up
in, which was ashdown forest. i believe there's actually a bridge
still extant that's identified as the poohsticks one.
so uk.local.ashdown-forest would do it.
stands a better chance than borsetshire (or narnia, for that matter),
but i wouldn't give you better than even odds.
[*] he wasn't exactly fond of the robin bit. when we got to know him
in the 60s in dartmouth (he kept the bookshop) he was definitely a
single forename person (though to me at the time he was mr milne).
--
Robin Fairbairns, Cambridge
Niles
|
|Multiple Lynda Snells? What a terrifying thought.
Following her little debacle (add your own accents) with the PA
system, the thought of Lynda as a Dalek is quite appealing. I can
imagine a herd of metallic horrors droning "Exterminate. Atishoo"
Sorry, another private fantasy.
--
"Un étudiant n'a pas trop de temps s'il veut connaître le
répertoir de chaque théâtre, étudier les issues du labyrinthe
parisien, [..] apprendre la langue, et s'habituer aux plaisirs
particuliers de la capitale" de BALZAC // www.niles.zetnet.co.uk
Jane Vernon
pool when Nick Leverton thankfully interrupted me to say:
>In article <37c23e23...@news.mersinet.co.uk>,
>Charles F Hankel <cha...@hankel.mersinet.co.uk> wrote:
>>Under the influence of direct sunshine, pe...@psyche.demon.co.uk
>>("Peter H.M. Brooks") wrote:
>>
>>> One nice quiet group would be uk.local.wonderland, with a moderator
>>> who only allowed Alices.
>>
>>I object to this, speaking as a dormouse myself, you understand.
>>Life's tough enough as it is without being excluded by blatant
>>genusism and sexism.
>
>admittedly, but enough people have called me one that I must be noticably
>bouncy[1]. Is there a general name for Christopher Robin's Places[2],
>so that we can have a uk.local group too ?
>
>
>[1] especially when giving it some [3]
>[2] no smut now, please.
>[3] [2]
I have a theory about Winnie-the-Pooh characters. ISTM that most
people's personalities can at least be hinted at in this way: one can
be described, for example, as a Pooh, with Kanga tendencies. (It
certainly helps to be able to use the secondary characteristics.) I
have found (and others more knowledgeable have agreed with me) that
people with certain mental health problems can rarely be categorised in
this way. OTOH such people can often be described using characters from
Alice.
In case anyone is interested, it is generally agreed by friends who know
me well that I am basically Pooh, with Rabbit tendencies.
Kim Andrews
<ja...@otbo.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>In case anyone is interested, it is generally agreed by friends who know
>me well that I am basically Pooh, with Rabbit tendencies.
I've been thinking about this and must reluctantly admit that I can't
quite think what Rabbit's tendencies are. What have you identified?
Enquiring minds etc...
Kimbo (Pooh + Wol)
--
Backside of the Year Competition
from FOCA & Backsides Trackside
BotY
Formula One Cartoon Archive
http://www.foca.co.uk
Steve
<r...@betsy.cl.cam.ac.uk> writes
>Nick Leverton <lev...@warren.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>And what about tiggers, like me ? Thoughtful, introspective tiggers
>>admittedly, but enough people have called me one that I must be noticably
>>bouncy[1]. Is there a general name for Christopher Robin's Places[2],
>>so that we can have a uk.local group too ?
>
>in, which was ashdown forest. i believe there's actually a bridge
>still extant that's identified as the poohsticks one.
>
>so uk.local.ashdown-forest would do it.
Oh, surely uk.local.enchanted-places would be more accurate.
And realistic - the possibilities are endless
--
Steve, aspires to Eeyore, but Wol keeps breaking through.
Mike McMillan
<URL:mailto:si...@sudbury.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Indeed. Scorned, and jammed, and creamed. With a port of tea in the ear.
>
Now, is this a Freudian slip? . . . did he mean 'With a port or tea in the
ear' or maybe he meant 'With a pot of tea in the ear'. Which goes best with
your 'errings Simon?!
Toodle Slurp,
Mike
--
Mike McMillan, Mike Sounds (Reading)
Digital Recording, Editing and CD Production: Tel: 0118 9265450,
Fax: 0118 9668167. http://www.mikesounds.demon.co.uk/
Heather Knowles
>Is there a general name for Christopher Robin's Places[2],
>so that we can have a uk.local group too ?
uk.local.100akerwood?
--
luv Chuckler, the umra slapper
Keen member of HAHA
http://www.fanged.demon.co.uk
Heather Knowles
>I've been thinking about this and must reluctantly admit that I can't
>quite think what Rabbit's tendencies are.
Bossiness and organisational abilities?
--
luv Chuckler, the umra slapper (Rabbit with Piglet rising)
Tim Hall
wrote:
<snip>
>
>all that stuff was written about the area christopher milne[*] grew up
>in, which was ashdown forest. i believe there's actually a bridge
>still extant that's identified as the poohsticks one.
>
Indeed there is. Although it's a bit like grandfather's axe, having
been rebuilt some years ago with dosh from Barclays (?) Bank, just
next to where it was, IYSWIM. The trees all around are devoid of
small sticks.
Tim
Mike McMillan
<URL:mailto:ja...@otbo.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> I have a theory about Winnie-the-Pooh characters. ISTM that most
> people's personalities can at least be hinted at in this way: one can
> be described, for example, as a Pooh, with Kanga tendencies. (It
> certainly helps to be able to use the secondary characteristics.) I
> have found (and others more knowledgeable have agreed with me) that
> people with certain mental health problems can rarely be categorised in
> this way. OTOH such people can often be described using characters from
> Alice.
>
> In case anyone is interested, it is generally agreed by friends who know
> me well that I am basically Pooh, with Rabbit tendencies.
Occasionally, one or other member of our academic staff will visit my abode
for assistance with some technical matter using the opening gambit:
"I'm a bear of little brain so could you help me with . . ."
Toodle Pip,
Mike Ellwood
: I
: have found (and others more knowledgeable have agreed with me) that
: people with certain mental health problems can rarely be categorised in
: this way. OTOH such people can often be described using characters from
: Alice.
Had not heard this theory before, but I will scramble quickly into
the Pooh Bear category, especially around the waist. On the other
hand I know quite a few Wols, some Eyores, and the occasional Tigger.
: In case anyone is interested, it is generally agreed by friends who know
: me well that I am basically Pooh, with Rabbit tendencies.
I think it must be time for a little something; I usually
have a little something round about this time of day.
Would that be a honey jar in your hand by any chance?
--
Mike.E...@rl.ac.uk
Kim Andrews
<chuc...@fanged.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>Kim Andrews <k...@foca.co.uk> writes
>>I've been thinking about this and must reluctantly admit that I can't
>>quite think what Rabbit's tendencies are.
>
>Bossiness and organisational abilities?
Ooh yes, that rings bells. Darn, that's me too. Can I have the whole
set?
Kimbo (Pooh + everybody, at this rate.)
--
BotY competition now on at FOCA
Jane Vernon
>>me well that I am basically Pooh, with Rabbit tendencies.
>
>Enquiring minds etc...
Rabbit's main tendencies are those you would expect in a control freak.
He has hundreds of friends-and-relations and this enables him to rush
round very busily, organising them all. He doesn't seem to have
anything of great substance to say but creates an aura of getting on
with things and being efficient.
In my case I don't have the hundreds of friends-and-relations but manage
nonetheless to create the aura of getting on with things and being
efficient, indeed it's no aura, but reality. The control freak part
comes in when I freak out, for example, at two particular margarine tubs
going missing, which for about 5 years I have used to support the
smaller shelf when I have a pottery stall at a craft market. No other
margarine tubs are going to do as well, I can just tell, in spite of the
person who mislaid them assuring me she has several in her studio I can
have :(
>
>Kimbo (Pooh + Wol)
Jane Vernon
>Kim Andrews <k...@foca.co.uk> writes
>>I've been thinking about this and must reluctantly admit that I can't
>>quite think what Rabbit's tendencies are.
>
Aha, the succinct answer. Guilty as charged, m'lud.
>
Iain Archer
>I have a theory about Winnie-the-Pooh characters. ISTM that most
>people's personalities can at least be hinted at in this way: one can
>be described, for example, as a Pooh, with Kanga tendencies. (It
>have found (and others more knowledgeable have agreed with me) that
>people with certain mental health problems can rarely be categorised in
>this way. OTOH such people can often be described using characters from
>Alice.
Not quite to the contrary, but I did come across this
a couple of days ago. :)
"What was wrong with Eeyore? What led him to his marginalised existence
in the Gloomy Place on the outskirts of the Hundred Acre Wood?"
"Dysthymia probably ... It is likely that Eeyore's condition would
have been improved with antidepressant treatment".
--
Iain Archer i...@montaigne.demon appended_to .co.uk
George Middleton
>"What was wrong with Eeyore? What led him to his marginalised existence
>in the Gloomy Place on the outskirts of the Hundred Acre Wood?"
>
>"Dysthymia probably ... It is likely that Eeyore's condition would
>have been improved with antidepressant treatment".
A sense of alienation from a society that does not appear to have read
any books since they left the nursery except for the usual adolescent
flirtation with Douglas Adams, sf and Terry Pratchett is a more likely
reason.
But don't take any notice of me, nobody ever does.
--
George
Jane Vernon
>Jane Vernon wrote on Tue, 17 Aug 1999
>>I have a theory about Winnie-the-Pooh characters. ISTM that most
>>people's personalities can at least be hinted at in this way: one can
>>be described, for example, as a Pooh, with Kanga tendencies. (It
>>certainly helps to be able to use the secondary characteristics.) I
>>have found (and others more knowledgeable have agreed with me) that
>>people with certain mental health problems can rarely be categorised in
>>this way. OTOH such people can often be described using characters from
>>Alice.
>
>Not quite to the contrary, but I did come across this
>a couple of days ago. :)
>
>in the Gloomy Place on the outskirts of the Hundred Acre Wood?"
>
>"Dysthymia probably ... It is likely that Eeyore's condition would
>have been improved with antidepressant treatment".
Not at all to the contrary. Depression is usually a neurotic condition.
It's the psychotic one has to worry about ;)
Linda
>Jane Vernon wrote on Tue, 17 Aug 1999
>>I have a theory about Winnie-the-Pooh characters.
[....]
> OTOH such people can often be described using characters from
>>Alice.
Well, as I have confessed elsewhere, I am much in the mood for *any*
distractions today so I just went hunting through my files to find copy
of the below - which may amuse. It may not amuse of course, but heck, I
have a task to avoid :-) I wrote it years ago, but it continues to
provide some end of term amusement to some of my students. Are You
Sitting Comfortably?
Once Upon a Time I set out on a new career and it seemed to me that I
had entered a world that was often as confusing and strange as the world
of Alice and her adventures in Wonderland. It wasn't long before the
characters in Wonderland could be identified among the people I met.
This was enormously helpful as I tried to make sense of this curious
world and I began to use Alice's adventures as a means to understanding
this world. When I described these ideas I found that other people also
identified with Alice.
The more I thought about Alice, the more I felt like Alice. I began
to wonder if many years after Alice awoke from her dream, she might
have wondered what meaning her dream held for her. These are my
suggestions about how it might be interpreted. Of course there may be
other interpretations - but that's the curious thing about dreams! I
thought it a particularly curious dream as Alice dreamed her dream some
years before Dr Freud became curious about the meaning of our dreams.
It was also long before Dr Jung wrote about the collective unconscious.
BIRTH
When Alice fell down the hole she was re-enacting her birth and felt
quite unable to control the experience.
ATTACHMENT
The white rabbit represented an attachment figure - one she felt
compelled to follow, but found to her dismay she did not always have the
means to stay with it.. It seemed as if this figure was so busy
hurrying around that Alice couldn't develop the sort close relationship
she would have liked. Oddly the rabbit didn't seem to notice her - or
at least, that's how it seemed to Alice.
EARLY PROBLEM MANAGEMENT
It wasn't long before Alice found herself confronted by problems about
not being sure where she was, wanting to get to somewhere else and
feeling she was either too big or too small to overcome her problems.
INTERNALISATION
Alice began to learn that the size of her problems changed according to
the things she ate, or internalised. Sometimes she felt small and
frightened, sometimes big and powerful. At other times she seemed
bigger than her surroundings and this made her feel squashed and
uncomfortable.
MAKING SENSE & REALITY
The people who Alice met didn't seem to possess any of the same logic as
Alice and whilst Alice felt very clear about her perceptions, she became
very confused at discovering that others could perceive the same
experiences quite differently, but be equally sure of their accuracy.
THE FAMILY.
The Mad Hatter's Tea Party. Alice might decide that this represented
her family system. She was never clear about her place in it and
everything kept changing without any apparent agreement to the change
happening. It was always difficult for Alice to find a space for
herself in the family and it seemed that the differences between Alice
and her family were more significant the differences between other
members of the family. The family also seemed better able to manage
their differences because they understood the same rules. Alice never
could make sense of these rules. In fact Alice always found other
people's rules hard to understand and when Alice couldn't understand
Alice always got very cross and very difficult.
AUTHORITY
The King and Queen are her authority figures. Initially these were her
parents and later others who exercised any control over Alice's world.
Alice perceived them both, but more especially the Queen, as responsible
for a lot of upset and for provoking considerable fear and anxiety among
those who were smaller or less powerful than herself. Alice acted out
much rebellion towards the King and Queen. She challenged their rules
and made it clear that she felt she would do a much better job of being
in charge.
ADVICE GIVERS & HELPERS
When Alice asked for help and advice from a Caterpillar she found the
helper uncooperative and difficult, in that it refused to give clear
directions. When the Caterpillar disappeared Alice realised that she
had to use the information she had been given to work out an answer for
herself. Alice was cross and would perhaps have preferred to remain
rather more dependent. Despite her somewhat superior view of herself in
Wonderland, Alice was in truth not at all grown up!
LIFE
Life itself was represented by a Croquet Game, where negotiating the
hoops, a difficult enough task for anyone, was made more difficult
because of the impact others had upon her and the fact that the players
were provided with inappropriate equipment for the task.
EDUCATION
When Alice met the Gryphon and the Mock Turtle they made her feel as if
she was in school - but Alice felt she knew quite enough and was
perfectly clear about what she knew. However, when asked to share her
learning and give evidence of it, the stress confused her mind;
everything came out sounding wrong and rather silly. How like real life
you might think.
SUPPORT
The Cheshire Cat represents a friend who always seems to arrive and give
support when needed, but even this friend has a touch of madness about
it and doesn't quite seem to be all there!
REFLECTION & ASSESSMENT
The trial Alice attended began with her seeing all the significant
people in her life being asked to give evidence and yet finding
themselves accused. This process caused Alice to become very angry,
especially when she learned that the sentence came before the verdict!
This is not unlike life, that has to be lived before it can be assessed.
It also seems that nobody can escape the process.
THE AWAKENING.
Of course if this were a fairy tale it would all end happily every
after. But it isn't a fairy tale, its a dream and dreams never end, we
just wake up feeling something and that feeling may be different for
each of us.
ObArchers: I nominate Jill for Red Queen, Nigel as the Mad Hatter, Bert
Fry as the caterpillar etc etc.
--
Linda
Robin Fairbairns
>Iain Archer wrote:
>>"What was wrong with Eeyore? What led him to his marginalised existence
>>in the Gloomy Place on the outskirts of the Hundred Acre Wood?"
>>
>>"Dysthymia probably ... It is likely that Eeyore's condition would
>>have been improved with antidepressant treatment".
>
>any books since they left the nursery except for the usual adolescent
>flirtation with Douglas Adams, sf and Terry Pratchett is a more likely
>reason.
adolescent -- pah! douglas adams is younger than me, and idled around
for quite a while (during which period i was working hard to earn
rather feeble money); by the time he'd written his excellent radio
programmes (and converted them into less satisfactory books) even _i_
couldn't have been described as adolescent.
i read voraciously (though less quickly than i eat). all i can
suggest is that you wonder on the amazing potency of cheap music...
>But don't take any notice of me, nobody ever does.
here, have this nice thistle.
--
Robin Fairbairns, Cambridge
Robin Fairbairns
>[...]
>THE AWAKENING.
>Of course if this were a fairy tale it would all end happily every
>after. But it isn't a fairy tale, its a dream and dreams never end, we
>just wake up feeling something and that feeling may be different for
>each of us.
it wasn't until i was well on into parenthood that my mother told me
she had always hated the alice stories because they were so painfully
true to life. her analysis (though not as thorough) was essentially
the same as l*nda's.
thinking about it back then (perhaps 10 years ago) i concluded that
she was right. the difference between her and me being (a) that she
seems not to have been quite such a dozy child, and (b) she _knew_ her
father hated her, whereas i was never sure about mine.
--
Robin Fairbairns, Cambridge
Siderius Nuncius
Heather Knowles wrote in message ...
>Kim Andrews <k...@foca.co.uk> writes
>>I've been thinking about this and must reluctantly admit that I can't
>>quite think what Rabbit's tendencies are.
>
>Bossiness and organisational abilities?
>
And a large and varied assortment of friends-and-relations. (I always felt
very sorry for Alexander Beetle.)
Regards
Sid
(Shepherds Bush, West London)
Simon Townley
Fairbairns) wrote:
> Linda <ref...@reflect.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> >[...]
> >THE AWAKENING.
> >Of course if this were a fairy tale it would all end happily every
> >after. But it isn't a fairy tale, its a dream and dreams never end, we
> >just wake up feeling something and that feeling may be different for
> >each of us.
>
> it wasn't until i was well on into parenthood that my mother told me
> she had always hated the alice stories because they were so painfully
> true to life. her analysis (though not as thorough) was essentially
> the same as l*nda's.
>
> thinking about it back then (perhaps 10 years ago) i concluded that
> she was right.
Well yes. Never went into it as thoroughly as l*nda, but ever since first
reading, the Alice books have had fairly profound resonances (as well as
being some of the best-written and funniest prose ever) ... rather than
saying, isn't it strange how Alice predates Freud & Jung & Co, wouldn't it
be better to say, well it's no surprise that F & J & Co came along *after*
Alice? Because Lewis Carroll might well have known exactly what he was
doing with his 'nonsense' myth-making, albeit he'd have protested
vehemently at every stage, 'just a bit of fun, just a bit of fun'. He was
a smart chap.
--
Simon Townley
Andrew Wineberg
k...@foca.co.uk (Kim Andrews) wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Aug 1999 20:47:05 +0100, Jane Vernon
> <ja...@otbo.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> >In case anyone is interested, it is generally agreed by friends who know
> >me well that I am basically Pooh, with Rabbit tendencies.
> I've been thinking about this and must reluctantly admit that I can't
> quite think what Rabbit's tendencies are.
The rabbits I have witnessed have tendencies to:
* twitch their ears and noses;
* eat carrots;
* ignore sexual overtures;
* say "What's up doc?"
--
AJW in Stanmore, HA7, Great Britain.
Details and Barwick Green at http://www.BTINTERNET.COM/~a.wineberg/
Glyn Fullelove
<ref...@reflect.demon.co.uk> writes
>Well, as I have confessed elsewhere, I am much in the mood for *any*
>distractions today
>>> THIS IS A COMPILATION OF ACTUAL STUDENT GCSE ANSWERS...
>>> 1. Ancient Egypt was inhabited by mummies and they all wrote in
>>> hydraulics. They lived in the Sarah Dessert and traveled by
Camelot.
>>> The climate of the Sarah is such that the inhabitants have to live
>>> elsewhere.
>>> 2. The Bible is full of interesting caricatures. In the first book
>>> of the Bible, Guinessis, Adam and Eve were created from an apple
tree.
>>> One of their children, Cain, asked, "Am I my brother's son?"
>>> 3. Moses led the Hebrew slaves to the Red Sea, where they made
>>> unleavened bread which is bread made without any ingredients. Moses
>>> went up on Mount Cyanide to get the ten commandments. He died before
>>> he ever reached Canada.
>>> 4. Solomom had three hundred wives and seven hundred porcupines.
>>> 5. The Greeks were a highly sculptured people, and without them we
>>> wouldn't have history. The Greeks also had myths. A myth is a female
>>> moth.
>>> 6. Actually, Homer was not written by Homer but by another man of
>>> that name.
>>> 7. Socrates was a famous Greek teacher who went around giving
>>> people advice. They killed him. Socrates died from an overdose of
>>> wedlock. After his death, his career suffered a dramatic decline.
>>> 8. In the Olympic games, Greeks ran races, jumped, hurled the
>>> biscuits and threw the java.
>>> 9. Eventually, the Romans conquered the Greeks. History calls
>>> people Romans because they never stayed in one place for very long.
>>> 10. Julius Caesar extinguished himself on the battlefields of Gaul.
>>> The Ides of March murdered him because they thought he was going to
be
>>> made king. Dying, he gasped out: "Tee hee, Brutus."
>>> 11. Nero was a cruel tyranny who would torture his subjects by
>>> playing the fiddle to them.
>>> 12. Joan of Arc was burnt to a steak and was cannonized by Bernard
>>> Shaw. Finally Magna Carta provided that no man should be hanged
twice
>>> for the same offense.
>>> 13. In midevil times most people were alliterate. The greatest
>>> writer of the futile ages was Chaucer, who wrote many poems and
verses
>>> and also wrote literature.
>>> 14. Another story was William Tell, who shot an arrow through an
>>> apple while standing on his son's head.
>>> 15. Queen Elizabeth was the "Virgin Queen." As a queen she was a
>>> success. When she exposed herself before her troops they all shouted
>>> "hurrah."
>>> 16. It was an age of great inventions and discoveries. Gutenberg
>>> invented removable type and the Bible. Another important invention
was
>>> the circulation of blood. Sir Walter Raleigh is a historical figure
>>> because he invented cigarettes and started smoking. And Sir Francis
>>> Drake circumcised the world with a 100 foot clipper.
>>> 17. The greatest writer of the Renaissance was William
>>> Shakespeare.He was born in the year 1564, supposedly on his
birthday.
>>> He never made much money and is famous only because of his plays. He
>>> wrote tragedies, comedies, and hysterectomies, all in Islamic
>>> pentameter. Romeo and Juliet are an example of a heroic couplet.
>>> Romeo's last wish was to be Laid by Juliet.
>>> 18. Writing at the same time as Shakespeare was Miguel Cervantes.
>>> He wrote Donkey Hote. The next great author was John Milton. Milton
>>> wrote Paradise Lost. Then his wife died and he wrote Paradise
>>> Regained.
>>> 19. During the Renaissance America began. Christopher Columbus was a
>>> great navigator who discovered America while cursing about the
>>> Atlantic. His ships were called the Nina, the Pinta, and the Santa
Fe.
>>>
>>> 20. Later, the Pilgrims crossed the ocean, and this was called
>>> Pilgrim's Progress. The winter of 1620 was a hard one for the
>>> settlers. Many people died and many babies were born. Captain John
>>> Smith was responsible for all this.
>>> 21. One of the causes of the Revolutionary War was the English put
>>> tacks in their tea. Also, the colonists would send their parcels
>>> through the post without stamps. Finally the colonists won the War
and
>>> no longer had to pay for taxis. Delegates from the original 13
states
>>> formed the Contented Congress. Thomas Jefferson, a Virgin, and
>>> Benjamin Franklin were two singers of the declaration of
Independence.
>>> Franklin discovered electricity by rubbing two cats backwards and
>>> declared, "A horse divided against itself cannot stand." Franklin
>>> died in 1790 and is still dead.
>>> 22. Soon the Constitution of the United States was adopted to secure
>>> domestic hostility. Under the constitution the people enjoyed the
>>> >right to keep bare arms.
>>> 23. Abraham Lincoln became America's greatest Precedent. Lincoln's
>>> mother died in infancy, and he was born in a log cabin which he
built
>>> with his own hands. Abraham Lincoln freed the slaves by signing the
>>> Emasculation Proclamation. On the night of April 14, 1865, Lincoln
>>> went to the theater and got shot in his seat by one of the actors in
a
>>> moving picture show. The believed assinator was John Wilkes Booth, a
>>> supposedly insane actor. This ruined Booth's career.
>>> 24. Meanwhile in Europe, the enlightenment was a reasonable time.
>>> Voltaire invented electricity and also wrote a book called Candy.
>>> 25. Gravity was invented by Issac Walton. It is chiefly noticeable
>>> in the autumn when the apples are falling off the trees.
>>> 26. Johann Bach wrote a great many musical compositions and had a
>>> large number of children. In between he practiced on an old spinster
>>> which he kept up in his attic. Bach died from 1750 to the present.
>>> Bach was the most famous composer in the world and so was Handel.
>>> Handel was half German half Italian and half English. He was very
>>> large.
>>>
>>>
>>> 27. Beethoven wrote music even though he was deaf. He was so deaf he
>>> wrote loud music. He took long walks in the forest even when
everyone
>>> was calling for him. Beethoven expired in 1827 and later died for
>>> this.
>>> 28. The French Revolution was accomplished before it happened and
>>> catapulted into Napoleon. Napoleon wanted an heir to inherit his
>>> power, but since Josephine was a baroness, she couldn't have any
>>> children.
>>> 29. The sun never set on the British Empire because the British
>>> Empire is in the East and the sun sets in the West.
>>> 30. Queen Victoria was the longest queen. She sat on a thorn for 63
>>> years. She was a moral woman who practiced virtue. Her death was the
>>> final event which ended her reign.
>>> 31. The nineteenth century was a time of a great many thoughts and
>>> inventions. People stopped reproducing by hand and started
reproducing
>>> by machine. The invention of the steamboat caused a network of
rivers
>>> to spring up. Cyrus McCormick invented the McCormick raper, which
did
>>> the work of a hundred men.
>>> 32. Louis Pasteur discovered a cure for rabbis. Charles Darwin was a
>>> naturalist who wrote the Organ of the Species. Madman Curie
discovered
>>> radio. And Karl Marx became one of the Marx brothers.
>>> 33. The First World War, caused by the assignation of the Arch-Duck
>>> by an anahist, ushered in a new error in the anals of human history.
--
Glyn Fullelove
Heather Knowles
>Not quite to the contrary, but I did come across this
>a couple of days ago. :)
>
>in the Gloomy Place on the outskirts of the Hundred Acre Wood?"
>
>"Dysthymia probably ... It is likely that Eeyore's condition would
>have been improved with antidepressant treatment".
Apparently one can now purchase 'Eeyore's Little Book of Gloom' as an
antidote to 'The Little Book of Calm'!
--
luv Chuckler, the umra slapper
K Richard W
that our lives would be enhanced by the following comments:
>all that stuff was written about the area christopher milne[*] grew up
>in, which was ashdown forest. i believe there's actually a bridge
>still extant that's identified as the poohsticks one.
The local authority concerned think it is falling down and plan to ask
Disney for many tens of thousands to rebuild it., in view of the damage
caused by the visitors.
I assume that it is some enormous structure when I heard this -
previously I had thought is was simply a few planks across a stream.
--
K Richard W
LSS super-numerary
Siderius Nuncius
Heather Knowles wrote in message ...
>
>antidote to 'The Little Book of Calm'!
>--
I have a copy. Not quite as good a parody of TLBOC as it thinks it is. Best
to stick to the original Pooh stories - Eeyore is best in context.
Still, at least it didn't rain.
Mike Ellwood
: Apparently one can now purchase 'Eeyore's Little Book of Gloom' as an
: antidote to 'The Little Book of Calm'!
And isn't there a famous cultish book called "The Tao of Pooh"?
--
Mike.E...@rl.ac.uk
Dev Preston
redeemed the day by writing:
>And isn't there a famous cultish book called "The Tao of Pooh"?
Not to mention the follow up to it: The Ti of Piglet (not half so
good, if you ask me, despite my own Piglet tendencies).
Dev Preston
'ull
Linda
<si...@sudbury.demon.co.uk> writes
>rather than
>saying, isn't it strange how Alice predates Freud & Jung & Co, wouldn't it
>be better to say, well it's no surprise that F & J & Co came along *after*
>Alice?
It certainly would have been better Simon - but may I put in a plea in
mitigation - I wrote this way back in the early eighties. Had I known
then what I know now...... your phrasing is much more classic Jung than
mine and rather proves Jung's argument that he and Freud were often
simply finding a C20 way of explaining what eons of generations had been
doing through myths & fairytales.
--
Linda
Mike Ellwood
: On 19 Aug 1999 08:21:26 GMT, m...@unixfe.cc.rl.ac.uk (Mike Ellwood)
Aha. Well I knew or had a vague idea what Tao was, but
I have not come across Ti.
<bow type=humble>
Offer me words of wisdom Master.
<revert mode=smart*ss>
Unless it's one of those things that I don't like which
some men place under their collars (and which I seem to be
wearing today for some reason...)
--
Mike.E...@rl.ac.uk
Mike Ellwood
: It certainly would have been better Simon - but may I put in a plea in
: mitigation - I wrote this way back in the early eighties. Had I known
: then what I know now...... your phrasing is much more classic Jung than
: mine and rather proves Jung's argument that he and Freud were often
: simply finding a C20 way of explaining what eons of generations had been
: doing through myths & fairytales.
C20? Twenty Cwid? Is that what analysts are charging by the minute
these days? No wonder Niles and Frasier seem well off.
Msg to our Niles: now you know what field to switch to if
language teaching does not appeal, as was being discussed not
long ago.
--
Mike.E...@rl.ac.uk
Nick Leverton
>
> This is quite possible, equally they may have been on the other side of
> the field and simply not noticed. I remember the issue was raised after
> we discovered that the Rinky Dink bicycle powered sound system was to be
> relaying the Archers omnibus at this years Glastonbury festival.
Oh wonderful, what a change from its night-time use !
Nick, who wasn't there this year anyway ...
Simon Townley
<ref...@reflect.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <simon-18089...@sudbury.demon.co.uk>, Simon Townley
> <si...@sudbury.demon.co.uk> writes
> >rather than
> >saying, isn't it strange how Alice predates Freud & Jung & Co, wouldn't it
> >be better to say, well it's no surprise that F & J & Co came along *after*
> >Alice?
>
> It certainly would have been better Simon - but may I put in a plea in
> mitigation - I wrote this way back in the early eighties. Had I known
> then what I know now...... your phrasing is much more classic Jung than
> mine ...
... Jung and foolish ;-)
--
Simon Townley
Robin Fairbairns
>On Tue, 17 Aug 1999, I was milking the cows when Robin Fairbairns felt
>that our lives would be enhanced by the following comments:
>
>>all that stuff was written about the area christopher milne[*] grew up
>>in, which was ashdown forest. i believe there's actually a bridge
>>still extant that's identified as the poohsticks one.
>
>The local authority concerned think it is falling down and plan to ask
>Disney for many tens of thousands to rebuild it., in view of the damage
>caused by the visitors.
er, visitors to disney world?
>I assume that it is some enormous structure when I heard this -
>previously I had thought is was simply a few planks across a stream.
there's an e h shepherd picture of it, isn't there. it had a rail.
mind you, it wouldn't be allowed nowadays, the little dears might fall
in and get their toes wet.
--
Robin Fairbairns, Cambridge
Min Lacey
<r...@betsy.cl.cam.ac.uk> used the electronic medium to say....
>there's an e h shepherd picture of it, isn't there. it had a rail.
>
normally opted to be under it with Piglet? I thought Christopher Robin
was the only one who could lean on the _top_ rail?
>mind you, it wouldn't be allowed nowadays, the little dears might fall
>in and get their toes wet.
--
Min
See a pin and pick it up
And all day long
You'll wonder where the grenade is....
Siderius Nuncius
Simon Townley wrote in message ...
>
>... Jung and foolish ;-)
>
Hello? Seven Stars take-away? I'd like a foo jung with egg freud reich,
please.
Siderius Nuncius
Min Lacey wrote in message ...
>In article <7pi2so$2ru$1...@pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk>, Robin Fairbairns
><r...@betsy.cl.cam.ac.uk> used the electronic medium to say....
>>there's an e h shepherd picture of it, isn't there. it had a rail.
>>
>ICBW, but couldn't Pooh stretch up to lean over the bottom rail, but
>normally opted to be under it with Piglet? I thought Christopher Robin
>was the only one who could lean on the _top_ rail?
From memory, I think that Pooh could *just* get his chin onto the bottom
rail, but it was much more fun to lie down under the rail and watch the
river slipping slowly away beneath them, and Christopher Robin could *just*
get his chin onto the top rail, but it was much more fun to stand on the
bottom rail and lean over the top rail, and watch the river.....
>>mind you, it wouldn't be allowed nowadays, the little dears might fall
>>in and get their toes wet.
>You could whoosh them out with a large stone....
Presumably they would have to attend courses in avoiding being struck
heavily on the chest by diving and swimming to the bank underwater. You and
Yours should do a piece about the scandal of our children being put at risk
by unlicensed whooshers (or is it shooshers?). Why won't the government act,
and should our schools be doing more?
Nick Leverton
> Simon Townley wrote in message ...
>
> >... Jung and foolish ;-)
>
> Hello? Seven Stars take-away? I'd like a foo jung with egg freud reich,
> please.
It's clearly a case of mind over matta.
Nick, with apologies for reintroducing the forbidden vegetable.
Simon Townley
<M...@mygaff0.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> See a pin and pick it up
> And all day long
> You'll wonder where
Liz Hurley's gone
--
Simon Townley
CG Luxford
On Wed, 18 Aug 1999, K Richard W wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Aug 1999, I was milking the cows when Robin Fairbairns felt
> that our lives would be enhanced by the following comments:
>
> >all that stuff was written about the area christopher milne[*] grew up
> >in, which was ashdown forest. i believe there's actually a bridge
> >still extant that's identified as the poohsticks one.
>
> The local authority concerned think it is falling down and plan to ask
> Disney for many tens of thousands to rebuild it., in view of the damage
> caused by the visitors.
>
Winnie the Pooh is not the true Pooh, he is the Anti-Pooh.
Chris,
chris harrison
"Disney, the people trap operated by a mouse" - which I serendipitously
read somewhere in the last 24 hours.
--
"Any sufficiently advanced magic is indistinguishable from a rigged
demonstration." - (almost) Clarke's Law
chris harrison
http://www.lowfield.co.uk/
Linda
<gl...@gandhfullelove.demon.co.uk> writes
>Try the following, which a friend E-Mailed to me today:
I did and much appreciation is returned.
--
Linda
Min Lacey
<siderius...@tesco.net> used the electronic medium to say....
>Hello? Seven Stars take-away? I'd like a foo jung with egg freud reich,
>please.
>
--
Min
See a pin and pick it up
And all day long
Bob Spowart
Simon Townley wrote in message ...
>> And all day long
>> You'll wonder where
>
>
Who???
Bob
Bob Spowart
CG Luxford wrote in message ...
>
>>
>Disney, Disney? Bloody Disney have nothing to do with it. Disney's
>Winnie the Pooh is not the true Pooh, he is the Anti-Pooh.
>
101 Dalmatians, Mary Poppins etc. etc. etc.
I realise that all they base their output on is either out of copyright or
they have purchased the rights, but to pass themselves off as the creators
of all the above is blatant plagiarism.
Bob
Tim Hall
<M...@mygaff0.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>In article <7pi2so$2ru$1...@pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk>, Robin Fairbairns
><r...@betsy.cl.cam.ac.uk> used the electronic medium to say....
>>there's an e h shepherd picture of it, isn't there. it had a rail.
>>
>ICBW, but couldn't Pooh stretch up to lean over the bottom rail, but
>normally opted to be under it with Piglet? I thought Christopher Robin
>was the only one who could lean on the _top_ rail?
The one that's there now has a top and bottom rail, but as I said
earlier is a rebuild of the original. What is puzzling to this bear
ovlb is that when Pooh Sticks were invented, the first game involved
fircones (BICBW). Personal observation tells me there are _no_
conifers of anykind in the vicinity of the bridge. Shirley AAM didn't
make it all up?
News groups trimmed.
Tim
Liz Blades
>"Disney, the people trap operated by a mouse" - which I serendipitously
>read somewhere in the last 24 hours.
And a friend of mine in Florida used to have the sig line
"The mouse must die"
Elizabeth
Tim Hall
Indeed. Disney bought the copyright to Pooh some years back. There
was eversuch a kerfuffle, letters to the papers and all sorts.
Pooh, whilst we love him dearly (we had a cat called Tigger) was, as
far as I can tell, just as much a commercial money spinner for AAM as
Mickey Mouse was for Walt D. On rather a smaller scale of course. PG
Wodehouse does a rather nice (IMHO) satire on the AAM genre of verse
in one of his books.
Tim
>
>
Mike Ellwood
: Pooh, whilst we love him dearly (we had a cat called Tigger) was, as
: far as I can tell, just as much a commercial money spinner for AAM as
: Mickey Mouse was for Walt D. On rather a smaller scale of course. PG
: Wodehouse does a rather nice (IMHO) satire on the AAM genre of verse
: in one of his books.
Well, there is "Hush! Whisper who dares
Christopher Robin has fallen downstairs"
but that was someone like Spike Milligan I think.
I love the Pooh books, and quite used to like reading the
poems to our kids at one time, but they are exceedingly,
oh dear, twee does not cover it. Some funny ones though.
I sort of gather from various things I've heard on the
wireless that AAM was not quite such a nice person as
the books/poems ought to indicate, but I've never
studied it properly.
Perhaps he liked the idea of childhood rather more than
actual children.
--
Mike.E...@rl.ac.uk
Mike Ellwood
: Liz Hurley's gone
I saw the lady in question in action (thespianism!)
for the first time (that I'd seen her) recently on
the TV. It was quite a good/interesting story, etc,
and her charms were obvious, but acting-wise, well
to borrow from Dorothy Parker, she ran the gamut of
emotions from A to B. Basically, she could do two looks.
Not unlike her partner, who is said to do what he does
very well, but personally, I tire of it very quickly.
(still talking about acting here...).
--
Mike.E...@rl.ac.uk
Stephen Bowden
>Indeed. Disney bought the copyright to Pooh some years back. There
>was eversuch a kerfuffle, letters to the papers and all sorts.
I mentioned that Disney had bought the rights to the Shepherd
illustrations (now marketed as "Classic Pooh") on another (non-public)
newsgroup using the phrase "All Pooh is Disney". The best response
was from a colleague who opined that all Disney is poo...
--
Stephen Bowden
Rostrum Camera - Ken Morse
Stephen Bowden
>In article <7pj031$8o4$1...@barcode.tesco.net>, Siderius Nuncius
><siderius...@tesco.net> used the electronic medium to say....
>>Hello? Seven Stars take-away? I'd like a foo jung with egg freud reich,
>>please.
>>
>Chicken Foo Yung to fall in love........
Waiter, this chicken is rubbery...
Charles F Hankel
(Simon Townley) wrote:
> Indeed. Scorned, and jammed, and creamed. With a port of tea in the ear.
Would this be Boston? Do I win a prize?
--
Charles F Hankel
-------------------------------------
Hapless FAQer on the Wirral peninsula
http://www.mersinet.co.uk/~hankel/uf/umrafaq.html
Bob Spowart
Mike Ellwood wrote in message <7pkn0l$u...@newton.cc.rl.ac.uk>...
>Tim Hall (tim...@freeuk.com) wrote:
>
>: Pooh, whilst we love him dearly (we had a cat called Tigger) was, as
>: far as I can tell, just as much a commercial money spinner for AAM as
>: Mickey Mouse was for Walt D. On rather a smaller scale of course. PG
>: Wodehouse does a rather nice (IMHO) satire on the AAM genre of verse
>: in one of his books.
>
>
>Well, there is "Hush! Whisper who dares
> Christopher Robin has fallen downstairs"
>
Little boy sitting at foot of the stairs,
In his hand is a bundle of hairs,
Oh my, fancy that,
Christopher Robin's castrated the cat!
Little boy kneeling at foot of the bed,
Lily white hands carressing his head,
On my, couldn't be worse,
Christopher Robin is s******g his nurse!
Bob
Simon Townley
Ellwood) wrote:
> Well, there is "Hush! Whisper who dares
> Christopher Robin has fallen downstairs"
>
> but that was someone like Spike Milligan I think.
Nah! Much earlier than Spike. J.B. Morton ('Beachcomber') in the thirties,
sometime.
> I sort of gather from various things I've heard on the
> wireless that AAM was not quite such a nice person as
> the books/poems ought to indicate, but I've never
> studied it properly.
Well he was editor of Punch, and a professional humourist himself, so was
entitled to be a bit of a miserable sod at the breakfast table.
> Perhaps he liked the idea of childhood rather more than
> actual children.
Like most (all?) authors, he probably liked the idea of the cheque rather
more than actually doing the work.
--
Simon Townley
Kirsten Procter
>In article <Pine.SOL.4.05.99081...@eis.bris.ac.uk>
> hi...@bris.ac.uk "CG Luxford" writes:
>
>>
>> > Kate is a good thing in much the same way that AIDS, TB and plebvision
>> > are.
>> >
>> Oooh, you rotter. Kates fab. She's my kind of woman. And being a radio
>> character I'm not at all affected by what the actress who plays here
>> looks like, so I can imagine her looking like anyone I want.
>>
>Well, you can be pretty sure that she dresses badly, has various forms
>of self-mutilation and walks around with a permanent scowl on her face,
>angry with the world that she believes owes here a living - if you find
>that attractive it is your funeral.
>
>--
>Peter H.M. Brooks
>Be generous and liberal in your attitude to irrational creatures and to the
>generality of material things, for you have reason and they have none
>- Marcus Aurelius.
>
--
Kirsten Procter ghoti
"that's what I think, but I don't suppose I'm right"
http://www.harem.org/haremites/ghoti
Heather Knowles
>Tim Hall (tim...@freeuk.com) wrote:
<snip>
>PG
>: Wodehouse does a rather nice (IMHO) satire on the AAM genre of verse
>: in one of his books.
>
>
> Christopher Robin has fallen downstairs"
>
>but that was someone like Spike Milligan I think.
So which one of them did:
'Little boy kneels at the foot of the bed,
Blood on his fingers and blood on his head,
Fur on his dressing-gown, fur on the mat -
Christopher Robin has murdered the cat'....?
(Hello, I'm back - I've been too blah to switch the pooter on for the
last three days, and I have missed you all :) )
--
luv Chuckler, the umra slapper
Keen member of HAHA
http://www.fanged.demon.co.uk
Charles F Hankel
Ellwood) wrote:
> Dev Preston (dev@remove_this_bit.deva.karoo.co.uk) wrote:
> : On 19 Aug 1999 08:21:26 GMT, m...@unixfe.cc.rl.ac.uk (Mike Ellwood)
> : redeemed the day by writing:
>
> : >And isn't there a famous cultish book called "The Tao of Pooh"?
>
> : Not to mention the follow up to it: The Ti of Piglet (not half so
> : good, if you ask me, despite my own Piglet tendencies).
>
> Aha. Well I knew or had a vague idea what Tao was,
I think he put the chi in fish'n'ps
Min Lacey
<tim...@freeuk.com> used the electronic medium to say....
>Indeed. Disney bought the copyright to Pooh some years back. There
>was eversuch a kerfuffle, letters to the papers and all sorts.
>
a picture of them all, reading 'Free the Pooh Five'.......
>Pooh, whilst we love him dearly (we had a cat called Tigger) was, as
>far as I can tell, just as much a commercial money spinner for AAM as
>Wodehouse does a rather nice (IMHO) satire on the AAM genre of verse
>in one of his books.
This was in retaliation for AAM's rather poisonous treatment of PG after
his internment broadcasts..
(PMG by the way...)
--
Min
See a pin and pick it up
And all day long