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Turk182
May 6, 2012, 3:25:00 AM5/6/12
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Matron has often tried to get me interested in the Archers, and god
knows I have tried. But something kept putting me off. The lovely
voiced and mellow Gerodie girl - whose name I always miss, has mostly
sounded like she was living on a ventilator. Every word was spoken
with a heavy breath. Is this supposed to be the difference between
reading a script and acting? If it is, it is not very convincing as
it make the actor/actress sound like a manic depressive or someone
suffering with a chronic case of low energy.
However, the last time I listened in, she had piped down, and the
infectious transmission of the 'disease', seems to have reduced in
other actors too! So someone must have had a word with them...thank
goodness!
However, I did hear the episode in which an actor was bashed over the
head by the occupants of a truck - and the whole scene sounded dry and
unconvincing.
This programme has been running longer than any I guess, so who am I
to nit-pick? Yet I do feel the show would draw me on more frequently,
if it were able to attain a higher level of realism. There is
something a bit "changing guards at Buckingham Palace" about it. Just
slightly too quaint, with unrealisitc sound effects, little atmosphere
and people who although are supposed to be experiencing life with all
it's woes', only seem to be able to articulate anything from a =n itch
to a death with heavy breathing rather than the more more common and
easily observed human traits.
Just a thought, has anyone accidentally ever 'let one go' on the
Archers, or are they all incapable of this bodily function which
effects every human, even the Queen, 17 times per day on average, but
possibly not at all if you live in Ambridge, Felpersham or surrounding
districts.
I mean, you wouldn't even have to HEAR it. Just a polite reference
such as, "that's a curious and slightly obnoxious waft in the area you
were standing a moment ago before you decided to suddenly move and
stroke the cat".
OK. We don't need to go lavatorial - but let's get some life into
this homogonised representation of 'life without life.
Turk182
knows I have tried. But something kept putting me off. The lovely
voiced and mellow Gerodie girl - whose name I always miss, has mostly
sounded like she was living on a ventilator. Every word was spoken
with a heavy breath. Is this supposed to be the difference between
reading a script and acting? If it is, it is not very convincing as
it make the actor/actress sound like a manic depressive or someone
suffering with a chronic case of low energy.
However, the last time I listened in, she had piped down, and the
infectious transmission of the 'disease', seems to have reduced in
other actors too! So someone must have had a word with them...thank
goodness!
However, I did hear the episode in which an actor was bashed over the
head by the occupants of a truck - and the whole scene sounded dry and
unconvincing.
This programme has been running longer than any I guess, so who am I
to nit-pick? Yet I do feel the show would draw me on more frequently,
if it were able to attain a higher level of realism. There is
something a bit "changing guards at Buckingham Palace" about it. Just
slightly too quaint, with unrealisitc sound effects, little atmosphere
and people who although are supposed to be experiencing life with all
it's woes', only seem to be able to articulate anything from a =n itch
to a death with heavy breathing rather than the more more common and
easily observed human traits.
Just a thought, has anyone accidentally ever 'let one go' on the
Archers, or are they all incapable of this bodily function which
effects every human, even the Queen, 17 times per day on average, but
possibly not at all if you live in Ambridge, Felpersham or surrounding
districts.
I mean, you wouldn't even have to HEAR it. Just a polite reference
such as, "that's a curious and slightly obnoxious waft in the area you
were standing a moment ago before you decided to suddenly move and
stroke the cat".
OK. We don't need to go lavatorial - but let's get some life into
this homogonised representation of 'life without life.
Turk182
Marjorie
May 6, 2012, 4:31:15 AM5/6/12
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Believe it or not, the issue of wind generation (by humans) was actually
discussed here not long ago. Then shortly afterwards, once scene in the
broadcast began with the sound of a very noisy piece of farm equipment
sounding for all the world like ... well, like wind generated by humans.
They're listening in, you know.
And the heavy breathing has been noticed even by the BBC. On one
programme (Feedback?) they compiled a whole selection of sighs and
panting from TA broadcasts, which sounded quite filthy when played
consecutively.
TA characters do go to the toilet now and again, generally to allow some
confidential exchange to take place between others in the room. Or
perhaps to indicate that they are suffering from some highly contagious
food-poisoning infection that could bring a whole business to a standstill.
Are you sure the Queen farts 17 times a day? I mean, is there some sort
of Royal record of this? When I was about 10 and discovered about
menstruation, I asked my Mum, "What, everyone? Even the Queen?" You'd
think the Royals might have evolved to do without such inconvenient
bodily functions by now. Perhaps the Archers (who are, after all, the
rural royals of Ambridge) have too.
--
Marjorie
To reply, replace dontusethisaddress with marje
Dr Nick
May 6, 2012, 4:43:13 AM5/6/12
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real incident or conversation it would be almost unintelligible. There
has to be even more artifice and convention in sound-only than in video
drama.
--
Online waterways route planner | http://canalplan.eu
Plan trips, see photos, check facilities | http://canalplan.org.uk
Turk182
May 6, 2012, 6:14:27 AM5/6/12
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On May 6, 9:43 am, Dr Nick <3-nos...@temporary-address.org.uk> wrote:
> Plan trips, see photos, check facilities |http://canalplan.org.uk- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
So true. I listen to real life and often believe that the
participants ARE acting, so exaggerated is their speech. Perhaps many
are living as if on a TV show!
The challenge for TA must be to find the middle ground between the
inflated egotisitical voice and the spluttering incoherent rambler
with little self-esteem.
The only problem is that too much middle ground and it can sound as if
everyone is on Ritalin - and I think that may be where we are at the
moment!
Turk182
>
> - Show quoted text -
So true. I listen to real life and often believe that the
participants ARE acting, so exaggerated is their speech. Perhaps many
are living as if on a TV show!
The challenge for TA must be to find the middle ground between the
inflated egotisitical voice and the spluttering incoherent rambler
with little self-esteem.
The only problem is that too much middle ground and it can sound as if
everyone is on Ritalin - and I think that may be where we are at the
moment!
Turk182
Turk182
May 6, 2012, 6:09:07 AM5/6/12
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On May 6, 9:31 am, Marjorie <dontusethisaddr...@springequinox.co.uk>
wrote:
> To reply, replace dontusethisaddress with marje- Hide quoted text -
Where flatulence is concerned, one wonders how the odd unscripted one
doesn't sometimes appear.
Her majesty has the benefit of army technology to maintain decorum.
Scientists at government research establishments developed a secret
power activation system that can detect a royal 'event' (as they are
known) within micro-seconds of the sound wave reaching the ear of a
commoner. The detector 'hears' the pre-tone from the virations in the
body and through radio-link activated mains switches, starts up the
rooms air-conditioning system instantly. This has dual benefits, as
the sound of the air-conditioners motor spinning into action buries
any other low level parps, while the re-distubution and introduction
of air deals with any more overt challenges to breathing. This
invention proved to be especially welcome following Her Majesty's last
visit to India, where she was believed to have enjoyed the local
cuisine enormously. It was therefore considered vital to Britain's
interests that the device was with her on all visits, and is mostly
therefore stored in the luggage container section at the rear of the
royal carriage.
The Queen's annual Christmas Message is always recorded in August.
The microphone in the small syudio is so sensitive, that usually a
number of re-takes are required, followed by exhaustive editing in
order to cope with this very issue. for this reason it is never
broadcast live - quite apart from the fact that by 3pm Christmas
afternoon, Her Majesty is er!..........well anyway.
Oh yes. I am trying to get into TA a little more know, so let's hope I
do not become one of these tetchy people who always gets distracted by
small detail. I just hope that the gentle rhythm of life, with all
it's subtle communications are reflected in the programme. I am
particulalry keen that psychological awareness and Freud's unconscious
processe are alive beneath the story line. For without the
unconscious, no reflection on human interaction can ever be authentic
and will always sound unreal.
Turk182
wrote:
>
> - Show quoted text -
Well Marjorie, thank you, delighted to be here.
> - Show quoted text -
Where flatulence is concerned, one wonders how the odd unscripted one
doesn't sometimes appear.
Her majesty has the benefit of army technology to maintain decorum.
Scientists at government research establishments developed a secret
power activation system that can detect a royal 'event' (as they are
known) within micro-seconds of the sound wave reaching the ear of a
commoner. The detector 'hears' the pre-tone from the virations in the
body and through radio-link activated mains switches, starts up the
rooms air-conditioning system instantly. This has dual benefits, as
the sound of the air-conditioners motor spinning into action buries
any other low level parps, while the re-distubution and introduction
of air deals with any more overt challenges to breathing. This
invention proved to be especially welcome following Her Majesty's last
visit to India, where she was believed to have enjoyed the local
cuisine enormously. It was therefore considered vital to Britain's
interests that the device was with her on all visits, and is mostly
therefore stored in the luggage container section at the rear of the
royal carriage.
The Queen's annual Christmas Message is always recorded in August.
The microphone in the small syudio is so sensitive, that usually a
number of re-takes are required, followed by exhaustive editing in
order to cope with this very issue. for this reason it is never
broadcast live - quite apart from the fact that by 3pm Christmas
afternoon, Her Majesty is er!..........well anyway.
Oh yes. I am trying to get into TA a little more know, so let's hope I
do not become one of these tetchy people who always gets distracted by
small detail. I just hope that the gentle rhythm of life, with all
it's subtle communications are reflected in the programme. I am
particulalry keen that psychological awareness and Freud's unconscious
processe are alive beneath the story line. For without the
unconscious, no reflection on human interaction can ever be authentic
and will always sound unreal.
Turk182
J. P. Gilliver (John)
May 6, 2012, 6:18:17 AM5/6/12
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In message <icSdndwWxaN_qzvS...@brightview.co.uk>, Marjorie
>> knows I have tried. But something kept putting me off. The lovely
Does the fact that those are in the past tense mean you've now fallen?
>> voiced and mellow Gerodie girl - whose name I always miss, has mostly
Ruth Archer (nee Pritchard IIRR), played by Felicity Finch (who _is_
Geordie, though slightly less fruity in other work - she does a lot of
voice-overs/commentary, and features for Women's Hour. (Yes, I find her
cosy to listen to too, but then that's probably because my mother and
hers are from Northumberland.)
[]
requires unnatural speech compared to real-life conversation, to be
comprehensible - is even more so in sound-only.
its knockers do pick up on them though, so they do change - just very
slowly; if you really want to hear stilted delivery, listen to some of
the archive recordings which abound: they're comical!
[]
newsgroup, where we've crossed swords not infrequently: I think when
something in the country riles him (he has quite strong political views
- I can't remember whether similar to mine or the opposite!), he tends
to fire off a post to uk.politics, uk.legal, and the Radio 4 'group,
without too much thought as to whether the last two are appropriate.
(OK, R4 discusses politics, but that sort of argument could be used to
include anything.) The ensuing discussions are usually most intelligent,
just arguably not on-topic for R4 (and maybe legal).
As such, he should fit in well here, if he stays - so I say welcome too!
(UMRA is infamous for thread-wander. Though threads that _start_
off-topic are _slightly_ less common [though I've done plenty myself!],
and the starter usually puts "OT" in the subject.)
have, in one of our periodic debates about energy generation (or was
that on the R4 'group - I can't remember!), but has it ever come up in
TA? I think it's the sort of thing Brian Aldridge would go for, because
of all the subsidies, and PatnTony, because of the green aspects. (I
think they're practical greenies who wouldn't worry about the appearance
aspects - they might even like them - though being practical they might
actually see there isn't enough wind in the area, if that's the case.
Which brings us back to ...)
[]
to be mentioned for comic effect; presumably we're hearing less of him
because it's finally got through that such humour is a few decades out
of date.
[]
* There's a prog. that I think they should rename, called "Crossing
Continents" - because whenever I hear mention of it, I think is about
angry people with (possibly because of) weak bladders.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
"I'm a paranoid agnostic. I doubt the existence of God, but I'm sure there is
some force, somewhere, working against me." - Marc Maron
<dontuseth...@springequinox.co.uk> writes:
>On 06/05/2012 08:25, Turk182 wrote:
>> Matron has often tried to get me interested in the Archers, and god
That made me think you were Sid for a moment!
>On 06/05/2012 08:25, Turk182 wrote:
>> Matron has often tried to get me interested in the Archers, and god
>> knows I have tried. But something kept putting me off. The lovely
>> voiced and mellow Gerodie girl - whose name I always miss, has mostly
Geordie, though slightly less fruity in other work - she does a lot of
voice-overs/commentary, and features for Women's Hour. (Yes, I find her
cosy to listen to too, but then that's probably because my mother and
hers are from Northumberland.)
[]
>> However, the last time I listened in, she had piped down, and the
>> infectious transmission of the 'disease', seems to have reduced in
>> other actors too! So someone must have had a word with them...thank
>> goodness!
As Dr. Nick said in another followup, the artifice of drama - which
>> infectious transmission of the 'disease', seems to have reduced in
>> other actors too! So someone must have had a word with them...thank
>> goodness!
requires unnatural speech compared to real-life conversation, to be
comprehensible - is even more so in sound-only.
>>
>> However, I did hear the episode in which an actor was bashed over the
>> head by the occupants of a truck - and the whole scene sounded dry and
>> unconvincing.
>>
>> This programme has been running longer than any I guess, so who am I
>> to nit-pick? Yet I do feel the show would draw me on more frequently,
>> if it were able to attain a higher level of realism. There is
>> something a bit "changing guards at Buckingham Palace" about it. Just
>> slightly too quaint, with unrealisitc sound effects, little atmosphere
I think some of its listeners like it _because_ of these things. Most of
>> However, I did hear the episode in which an actor was bashed over the
>> head by the occupants of a truck - and the whole scene sounded dry and
>> unconvincing.
>>
>> This programme has been running longer than any I guess, so who am I
>> to nit-pick? Yet I do feel the show would draw me on more frequently,
>> if it were able to attain a higher level of realism. There is
>> something a bit "changing guards at Buckingham Palace" about it. Just
>> slightly too quaint, with unrealisitc sound effects, little atmosphere
its knockers do pick up on them though, so they do change - just very
slowly; if you really want to hear stilted delivery, listen to some of
the archive recordings which abound: they're comical!
[]
>> Just a thought, has anyone accidentally ever 'let one go' on the
>> Archers, or are they all incapable of this bodily function which
>> effects every human, even the Queen, 17 times per day on average, but
>> possibly not at all if you live in Ambridge, Felpersham or surrounding
>> districts.
>> I mean, you wouldn't even have to HEAR it. Just a polite reference
>> such as, "that's a curious and slightly obnoxious waft in the area you
>> were standing a moment ago before you decided to suddenly move and
>> stroke the cat".
I don't think so (-:!
>> Archers, or are they all incapable of this bodily function which
>> effects every human, even the Queen, 17 times per day on average, but
>> possibly not at all if you live in Ambridge, Felpersham or surrounding
>> districts.
>> I mean, you wouldn't even have to HEAR it. Just a polite reference
>> such as, "that's a curious and slightly obnoxious waft in the area you
>> were standing a moment ago before you decided to suddenly move and
>> stroke the cat".
>>
>> OK. We don't need to go lavatorial - but let's get some life into
>> this homogonised representation of 'life without life.
>>
>
>I think a greeting is in order? So welcome to umra, Turk!
UMRA, meet Turk182; I've known him for some time from the Radio 4
>> OK. We don't need to go lavatorial - but let's get some life into
>> this homogonised representation of 'life without life.
>>
>
>I think a greeting is in order? So welcome to umra, Turk!
newsgroup, where we've crossed swords not infrequently: I think when
something in the country riles him (he has quite strong political views
- I can't remember whether similar to mine or the opposite!), he tends
to fire off a post to uk.politics, uk.legal, and the Radio 4 'group,
without too much thought as to whether the last two are appropriate.
(OK, R4 discusses politics, but that sort of argument could be used to
include anything.) The ensuing discussions are usually most intelligent,
just arguably not on-topic for R4 (and maybe legal).
As such, he should fit in well here, if he stays - so I say welcome too!
(UMRA is infamous for thread-wander. Though threads that _start_
off-topic are _slightly_ less common [though I've done plenty myself!],
and the starter usually puts "OT" in the subject.)
>
>Believe it or not, the issue of wind generation (by humans) was
Has the issue of wind generation using turbines? Actually, I think _we_
>Believe it or not, the issue of wind generation (by humans) was
have, in one of our periodic debates about energy generation (or was
that on the R4 'group - I can't remember!), but has it ever come up in
TA? I think it's the sort of thing Brian Aldridge would go for, because
of all the subsidies, and PatnTony, because of the green aspects. (I
think they're practical greenies who wouldn't worry about the appearance
aspects - they might even like them - though being practical they might
actually see there isn't enough wind in the area, if that's the case.
Which brings us back to ...)
[]
>TA characters do go to the toilet now and again, generally to allow
>some confidential exchange to take place between others in the room. Or
>perhaps to indicate that they are suffering from some highly contagious
>food-poisoning infection that could bring a whole business to a
>standstill.
There is one character with incontinence* problems, which seemed mostly
>some confidential exchange to take place between others in the room. Or
>perhaps to indicate that they are suffering from some highly contagious
>food-poisoning infection that could bring a whole business to a
>standstill.
to be mentioned for comic effect; presumably we're hearing less of him
because it's finally got through that such humour is a few decades out
of date.
>
>Are you sure the Queen farts 17 times a day? I mean, is there some sort
>of Royal record of this? When I was about 10 and discovered about
Lovely image, of "Royal breeze pursuivant", meticulously noting them ...
>Are you sure the Queen farts 17 times a day? I mean, is there some sort
>of Royal record of this? When I was about 10 and discovered about
[]
* There's a prog. that I think they should rename, called "Crossing
Continents" - because whenever I hear mention of it, I think is about
angry people with (possibly because of) weak bladders.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
"I'm a paranoid agnostic. I doubt the existence of God, but I'm sure there is
some force, somewhere, working against me." - Marc Maron
Marjorie
May 6, 2012, 8:22:48 AM5/6/12
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internet? i might consider carrying one at the rear of my carriage, or
somewhere similar.
>
> The Queen's annual Christmas Message is always recorded in August.
> The microphone in the small syudio is so sensitive, that usually a
> number of re-takes are required, followed by exhaustive editing in
> order to cope with this very issue. for this reason it is never
> broadcast live - quite apart from the fact that by 3pm Christmas
> afternoon, Her Majesty is er!..........well anyway.
>
> Oh yes. I am trying to get into TA a little more know, so let's hope I
> do not become one of these tetchy people who always gets distracted by
> small detail. I just hope that the gentle rhythm of life, with all
> it's subtle communications are reflected in the programme. I am
> particulalry keen that psychological awareness and Freud's unconscious
> processe are alive beneath the story line. For without the
> unconscious, no reflection on human interaction can ever be authentic
> and will always sound unreal.
Well, we could do with a Freudian adviser to keep an eye on things like
> The Queen's annual Christmas Message is always recorded in August.
> The microphone in the small syudio is so sensitive, that usually a
> number of re-takes are required, followed by exhaustive editing in
> order to cope with this very issue. for this reason it is never
> broadcast live - quite apart from the fact that by 3pm Christmas
> afternoon, Her Majesty is er!..........well anyway.
>
> Oh yes. I am trying to get into TA a little more know, so let's hope I
> do not become one of these tetchy people who always gets distracted by
> small detail. I just hope that the gentle rhythm of life, with all
> it's subtle communications are reflected in the programme. I am
> particulalry keen that psychological awareness and Freud's unconscious
> processe are alive beneath the story line. For without the
> unconscious, no reflection on human interaction can ever be authentic
> and will always sound unreal.
that, so I'm sure your input will be welcomed.
badriya
May 6, 2012, 8:25:18 AM5/6/12
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chocolate biscuits and/or pint of Shires. I explect Chris Mc will be
along shortly to explain the facilities and offer a duplicate key to
the UMRA chocolate bunker.
--
Vicky
LFS
May 6, 2012, 8:31:10 AM5/6/12
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On 06/05/2012 11:18, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
> * There's a prog. that I think they should rename, called "Crossing
> Continents" - because whenever I hear mention of it, I think is about
> angry people with (possibly because of) weak bladders.
YANAOU. This used to amuse me but now I've become cross myself.
> * There's a prog. that I think they should rename, called "Crossing
> Continents" - because whenever I hear mention of it, I think is about
> angry people with (possibly because of) weak bladders.
--
Laura
(emulate St. George for email)
Nick Odell
May 6, 2012, 9:07:43 AM5/6/12
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On Sun, 6 May 2012 11:18:17 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
<G6...@soft255.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>There is one character with incontinence* problems, which seemed mostly
>to be mentioned for comic effect; presumably we're hearing less of him
>because it's finally got through that such humour is a few decades out
>of date.
I think we may be hearing less of Mr Pullen because by my best guess
<G6...@soft255.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>There is one character with incontinence* problems, which seemed mostly
>to be mentioned for comic effect; presumably we're hearing less of him
>because it's finally got through that such humour is a few decades out
>of date.
he must be about three hundred years old now.
Nick
Turk182
May 6, 2012, 10:03:22 AM5/6/12
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On May 6, 11:18 am, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
<G6...@soft255.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> In message <icSdndwWxaN_qzvSnZ2dnUVZ7r2dn...@brightview.co.uk>, Marjorie
> >> voiced and mellow Gerodie girl - whose name I always miss, has mostly
>
> Ruth Archer (nee Pritchard IIRR), played by Felicity Finch (who _is_
> Geordie, though slightly less fruity in other work - she does a lot of
> voice-overs/commentary, and features for Women's Hour. (Yes, I find her
> cosy to listen to too, but then that's probably because my mother and
> hers are from Northumberland.)
Yes, when I first heard her, I really thought it was someone I knew.
I like her soothing character and voice. I love the reassuring lack
of hysteria.
Northumberland is wonderful. I lived there for 5 years. I miss it
greatly.
> >> However, the last time I listened in, she had piped down, and the
> >> infectious transmission of the 'disease', seems to have reduced in
> >> other actors too! So someone must have had a word with them...thank
> >> goodness!
>
> As Dr. Nick said in another followup, the artifice of drama - which
> requires unnatural speech compared to real-life conversation, to be
> comprehensible - is even more so in sound-only.
Getting it right is a real art.
> >> However, I did hear the episode in which an actor was bashed over the
> >> head by the occupants of a truck - and the whole scene sounded dry and
> >> unconvincing.
>
> >> This programme has been running longer than any I guess, so who am I
> >> to nit-pick? Yet I do feel the show would draw me on more frequently,
> >> if it were able to attain a higher level of realism. There is
> >> something a bit "changing guards at Buckingham Palace" about it. Just
> >> slightly too quaint, with unrealisitc sound effects, little atmosphere
>
> I think some of its listeners like it _because_ of these things. Most of
> its knockers do pick up on them though, so they do change - just very
> slowly; if you really want to hear stilted delivery, listen to some of
> the archive recordings which abound: they're comical!
> []
Good point. Have you seen or heard some of the early Candid Camera
recordings? They are a wonderful insight into conversational
mannerisms of the era. The frantic expressions of the confused mind
apprear often; "Would you come and help me Mr Jarvis only I think I'm
going mad?" There were frequent references to fear of mental
disintegration. Obviously today we no longer find this prospect so
awful, or maybe we even see it as desireable when coping with our
obviously made world.
I like a bit of thread wander, What may feel like a boundary breach
to you may feel like oxygen to another. Still. I'm not here to upset
anyone (just now), so I thank you for your welcome too!
If god is with me now, may he sit quietly until I ask him to speak.
Turk182
<G6...@soft255.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> In message <icSdndwWxaN_qzvSnZ2dnUVZ7r2dn...@brightview.co.uk>, Marjorie
>
> <dontusethisaddr...@springequinox.co.uk> writes:
> >On 06/05/2012 08:25, Turk182 wrote:
> >> Matron has often tried to get me interested in the Archers, and god
>
> That made me think you were Sid for a moment!
>
> >> knows I have tried. But something kept putting me off. The lovely
>
> Does the fact that those are in the past tense mean you've now fallen?
Emm yes. I suppose so. Easing in as it were.
> <dontusethisaddr...@springequinox.co.uk> writes:
> >On 06/05/2012 08:25, Turk182 wrote:
> >> Matron has often tried to get me interested in the Archers, and god
>
> That made me think you were Sid for a moment!
>
> >> knows I have tried. But something kept putting me off. The lovely
>
> Does the fact that those are in the past tense mean you've now fallen?
> >> voiced and mellow Gerodie girl - whose name I always miss, has mostly
>
> Ruth Archer (nee Pritchard IIRR), played by Felicity Finch (who _is_
> Geordie, though slightly less fruity in other work - she does a lot of
> voice-overs/commentary, and features for Women's Hour. (Yes, I find her
> cosy to listen to too, but then that's probably because my mother and
> hers are from Northumberland.)
I like her soothing character and voice. I love the reassuring lack
of hysteria.
Northumberland is wonderful. I lived there for 5 years. I miss it
greatly.
> >> However, the last time I listened in, she had piped down, and the
> >> infectious transmission of the 'disease', seems to have reduced in
> >> other actors too! So someone must have had a word with them...thank
> >> goodness!
>
> As Dr. Nick said in another followup, the artifice of drama - which
> requires unnatural speech compared to real-life conversation, to be
> comprehensible - is even more so in sound-only.
> >> However, I did hear the episode in which an actor was bashed over the
> >> head by the occupants of a truck - and the whole scene sounded dry and
> >> unconvincing.
>
> >> This programme has been running longer than any I guess, so who am I
> >> to nit-pick? Yet I do feel the show would draw me on more frequently,
> >> if it were able to attain a higher level of realism. There is
> >> something a bit "changing guards at Buckingham Palace" about it. Just
> >> slightly too quaint, with unrealisitc sound effects, little atmosphere
>
> I think some of its listeners like it _because_ of these things. Most of
> its knockers do pick up on them though, so they do change - just very
> slowly; if you really want to hear stilted delivery, listen to some of
> the archive recordings which abound: they're comical!
> []
recordings? They are a wonderful insight into conversational
mannerisms of the era. The frantic expressions of the confused mind
apprear often; "Would you come and help me Mr Jarvis only I think I'm
going mad?" There were frequent references to fear of mental
disintegration. Obviously today we no longer find this prospect so
awful, or maybe we even see it as desireable when coping with our
obviously made world.
to you may feel like oxygen to another. Still. I'm not here to upset
anyone (just now), so I thank you for your welcome too!
Turk182
Turk182
May 6, 2012, 10:06:01 AM5/6/12
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On May 6, 1:22 pm, Marjorie <dontusethisaddr...@springequinox.co.uk>
I didn't tell you they exist...ok!
>
> > The Queen's annual Christmas Message is always recorded in August.
> > The microphone in the small syudio is so sensitive, that usually a
> > number of re-takes are required, followed by exhaustive editing in
> > order to cope with this very issue. for this reason it is never
> > broadcast live - quite apart from the fact that by 3pm Christmas
> > afternoon, Her Majesty is er!..........well anyway.
>
> > Oh yes. I am trying to get into TA a little more know, so let's hope I
> > do not become one of these tetchy people who always gets distracted by
> > small detail. I just hope that the gentle rhythm of life, with all
> > it's subtle communications are reflected in the programme. I am
> > particulalry keen that psychological awareness and Freud's unconscious
> > processe are alive beneath the story line. For without the
> > unconscious, no reflection on human interaction can ever be authentic
> > and will always sound unreal.
>
> Well, we could do with a Freudian adviser to keep an eye on things like
> that, so I'm sure your input will be welcomed.
> Marjorie
We learn from each other.
>
> To reply, replace dontusethisaddress with marje- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> > The Queen's annual Christmas Message is always recorded in August.
> > The microphone in the small syudio is so sensitive, that usually a
> > number of re-takes are required, followed by exhaustive editing in
> > order to cope with this very issue. for this reason it is never
> > broadcast live - quite apart from the fact that by 3pm Christmas
> > afternoon, Her Majesty is er!..........well anyway.
>
> > Oh yes. I am trying to get into TA a little more know, so let's hope I
> > do not become one of these tetchy people who always gets distracted by
> > small detail. I just hope that the gentle rhythm of life, with all
> > it's subtle communications are reflected in the programme. I am
> > particulalry keen that psychological awareness and Freud's unconscious
> > processe are alive beneath the story line. For without the
> > unconscious, no reflection on human interaction can ever be authentic
> > and will always sound unreal.
>
> Well, we could do with a Freudian adviser to keep an eye on things like
> that, so I'm sure your input will be welcomed.
We learn from each other.
>
> To reply, replace dontusethisaddress with marje- Hide quoted text -
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
Turk182
> - Show quoted text -
Turk182
May 6, 2012, 10:11:10 AM5/6/12
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>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> >So true. I listen to real life and often believe that the
> >participants ARE acting, so exaggerated is their speech. Perhaps many
> >are living as if on a TV show!
>
> >The challenge for TA must be to find the middle ground between the
> >inflated egotisitical voice and the spluttering incoherent rambler
> >with little self-esteem.
>
> >The only problem is that too much middle ground and it can sound as if
> >everyone is on Ritalin - and I think that may be where we are at the
> >moment!
>
> >Turk182
>
> Can I second Marjorie's welcome and offer the traditional virtual
> chocolate biscuits and/or pint of Shires. I explect Chris Mc will be
> along shortly to explain the facilities and offer a duplicate key to
> the UMRA chocolate bunker.
>
> --
> Vicky- Hide quoted text -
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> >So true. I listen to real life and often believe that the
> >participants ARE acting, so exaggerated is their speech. Perhaps many
> >are living as if on a TV show!
>
> >The challenge for TA must be to find the middle ground between the
> >inflated egotisitical voice and the spluttering incoherent rambler
> >with little self-esteem.
>
> >The only problem is that too much middle ground and it can sound as if
> >everyone is on Ritalin - and I think that may be where we are at the
> >moment!
>
> >Turk182
>
> Can I second Marjorie's welcome and offer the traditional virtual
> chocolate biscuits and/or pint of Shires. I explect Chris Mc will be
> along shortly to explain the facilities and offer a duplicate key to
> the UMRA chocolate bunker.
>
> --
>
> - Show quoted text -
I accept your gift and thank you; although I have already come unstuck
> - Show quoted text -
as I have managed to get virtual choclate biscuit crumbs in my
keyboard - but thanks Vicky.
Please accept this clump of virtual compost that I picked up on the
Gardeners World newsgroup.
Turk182
Robin Fairbairns
May 6, 2012, 10:39:37 AM5/6/12
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eternal life potions, too.
lovely performance at the met, last night[*], relayed on r3.
[*] a matinee for the aimurricans who put it on, of course.
--
Robin Fairbairns, Cambridge
sorry about all this posting. i'll go back to sleep in a bit.
Martin Clark
May 6, 2012, 1:15:58 PM5/6/12
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On 06/05/2012 08:25, Turk182 wrote:
> Just a thought, has anyone accidentally ever 'let one go' on the
> Archers, or are they all incapable of this bodily function which
> effects every human, even the Queen, 17 times per day on average, but
> possibly not at all if you live in Ambridge, Felpersham or surrounding
> districts.
Hello Mr Turk. It is delightful, I am sure, to meet someone so
> Archers, or are they all incapable of this bodily function which
> effects every human, even the Queen, 17 times per day on average, but
> possibly not at all if you live in Ambridge, Felpersham or surrounding
> districts.
fascinated by flatulance.
If, as you say, the average fart rate is 17 per day, then someone out
there must be doing an awful lot of farting to make up for my dismal
performance in that field.
Welcome to umra, by the way.
Might I persuade you (and others) to indulge in a little (i.e. a lot
more) snippage when posting replies? We don't really need to see
everything again and again, and my mouse scroll wheel is starting to
wear out again.
--
Martin
Jo Lonergan
May 6, 2012, 2:12:51 PM5/6/12
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On Sun, 06 May 2012 13:25:18 +0100, badriya <badr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Can I second Marjorie's welcome and offer the traditional virtual
>chocolate biscuits and/or pint of Shires.
Thirded, but not together, Shirley? Choccy biscuits/cup of tea, pint of
>Can I second Marjorie's welcome and offer the traditional virtual
>chocolate biscuits and/or pint of Shires.
Shires/pork pie, I think.
--
Jo
Turk182
May 6, 2012, 3:31:49 PM5/6/12
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that you are a neat and economic person. A person who doesn't like
things getting messy, which ties into your suggestion that you do not
blow anywhere near 17 times per day! Where your diet in concerned,
are you getting 5 a day?
Let it all out Martin. You have a tendency to retentive behaviour.
This can make your tummy swell, and in a bad case - you could explode!
I'm not a fan of this subject. I'll be happy when it passes.
Turk182
Turk182
May 6, 2012, 3:33:22 PM5/6/12
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On May 6, 7:12 pm, Jo Lonergan <joloner...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Turk182
> On Sun, 06 May 2012 13:25:18 +0100, badriya <badriy...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >Can I second Marjorie's welcome and offer the traditional virtual
> >chocolate biscuits and/or pint of Shires.
>
> Thirded, but not together, Shirley? Choccy biscuits/cup of tea, pint of
> Shires/pork pie, I think.
>
> --
> Jo
Jo. So kind. Already I am replete!
> >Can I second Marjorie's welcome and offer the traditional virtual
> >chocolate biscuits and/or pint of Shires.
>
> Thirded, but not together, Shirley? Choccy biscuits/cup of tea, pint of
> Shires/pork pie, I think.
>
> --
> Jo
Turk182
Sam Plusnet
May 6, 2012, 3:50:37 PM5/6/12
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In article <5mfdq71irlaoikgvd...@4ax.com>,
jolon...@hotmail.com says...
Forthed. Does Tom Archer do Pork Pies?
If not why not?
--
Sam
jolon...@hotmail.com says...
If not why not?
--
Sam
Chris McMillan
May 6, 2012, 4:01:58 PM5/6/12
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On May 6, 2:07 pm, Nick Odell <gurzhfvp.jbexf...@ntlworld.com.invalid>
wrote:
He's definitely in his 90s. ICBA (being several days behind) to look
it up.
Sincerely Chris
wrote:
it up.
Sincerely Chris
J. P. Gilliver (John)
May 6, 2012, 4:57:08 PM5/6/12
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In message <jdKdnVo6xeS18DvS...@brightview.co.uk>, Marjorie
[]
our post-modernism poster did. (Haven't heard mention of her or that
subject for a few years.)
[]
>> processe are alive beneath the story line. For without the
>> unconscious, no reflection on human interaction can ever be authentic
>> and will always sound unreal.
>
>Well, we could do with a Freudian adviser to keep an eye on things like
>that, so I'm sure your input will be welcomed.
>
>
It'll get well above my head, though, if it gets to the heights/depths
>> unconscious, no reflection on human interaction can ever be authentic
>> and will always sound unreal.
>
>Well, we could do with a Freudian adviser to keep an eye on things like
>that, so I'm sure your input will be welcomed.
>
>
our post-modernism poster did. (Haven't heard mention of her or that
subject for a few years.)
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
Look out for #1. Don't step in #2 either.
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
Mike Brown
May 6, 2012, 6:52:27 PM5/6/12
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On 06/05/2012 11:09, Turk182 wrote:
> Where flatulence is concerned, one wonders how the odd unscripted one
> doesn't sometimes appear.
I imagine those which cause unscripted merriment among the cast are
> doesn't sometimes appear.
removed by editing.
--
mb
Mike Brown
May 6, 2012, 7:10:20 PM5/6/12
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On 06/05/2012 13:25, badriya wrote:
> Can I second Marjorie's welcome and offer the traditional virtual
> chocolate biscuits and/or pint of Shires. I explect Chris Mc will be
> along shortly to explain the facilities and offer a duplicate key to
> the UMRA chocolate bunker.
I don't recall ever being offered any of these. Is this a special Spring
> Can I second Marjorie's welcome and offer the traditional virtual
> chocolate biscuits and/or pint of Shires. I explect Chris Mc will be
> along shortly to explain the facilities and offer a duplicate key to
> the UMRA chocolate bunker.
offer? Has umra become like the utility companies in offering great
deals to new subscribers but with no equivalent for old and faithful
ones? I feel virtually hard-done by.
I think maybe I should go and compare the meerkats...
--
mb
Siderius Nuncius
May 7, 2012, 3:01:16 AM5/7/12
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> Marjorie <dontuseth...@springequinox.co.uk> writes:
>>On 06/05/2012 11:09, Turk182 wrote:
>>> processe are alive beneath the story line. For without the
>>> unconscious, no reflection on human interaction can ever be authentic
>>> and will always sound unreal.
>>
>>Well, we could do with a Freudian adviser to keep an eye on things like
>>that, so I'm sure your input will be welcomed.
>>
>>
> It'll get well above my head, though, if it gets to the heights/depths our
> post-modernism poster did. (Haven't heard mention of her or that subject
> for a few years.)
Erme...that was btms and me, wasn't it? Both still active in this parish,
>>On 06/05/2012 11:09, Turk182 wrote:
>>> processe are alive beneath the story line. For without the
>>> unconscious, no reflection on human interaction can ever be authentic
>>> and will always sound unreal.
>>
>>Well, we could do with a Freudian adviser to keep an eye on things like
>>that, so I'm sure your input will be welcomed.
>>
>>
> It'll get well above my head, though, if it gets to the heights/depths our
> post-modernism poster did. (Haven't heard mention of her or that subject
> for a few years.)
although the subject has not arisen for some while. Probably because most
peope have realised that it is unmitigated b*llocks.
(No doubt the denizens of Brasserie Poseur have since invented
post-somethingelse-ism to explain why they are the only ones who understand
anything, and the whole of science is obviously meaningless so they don't
actually have to lower themselves to learning anything about it.)
--
Sid
Make sure Matron is away when you reply
EllTee
May 7, 2012, 3:43:38 AM5/7/12
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In article <a0pabr...@mid.individual.net>,
I thought so. But back then I was doing a Masters' Degree in the theory
and I rather thought it largely billhooks myself. However, that
did/does not me describing the thinking; which I think you alone on umra
had an educated view on :-) There are parts of the philosophy which I
can see as progressive and thought provoking but it is/was also largely
comical in its billhookness :-) We struggled to find enough areas of
sensible disagreement to explore - both being of superior intellect no
doubt.
:-))))))
I did rather like the bit about predicting the collapse of boundaries,
especially when applied to drama. It has become rather less appealing
in the political world :-( as predicted way back then.
--
Btms
and I rather thought it largely billhooks myself. However, that
did/does not me describing the thinking; which I think you alone on umra
had an educated view on :-) There are parts of the philosophy which I
can see as progressive and thought provoking but it is/was also largely
comical in its billhookness :-) We struggled to find enough areas of
sensible disagreement to explore - both being of superior intellect no
doubt.
:-))))))
I did rather like the bit about predicting the collapse of boundaries,
especially when applied to drama. It has become rather less appealing
in the political world :-( as predicted way back then.
--
Btms
Martin Clark
May 7, 2012, 4:03:41 AM5/7/12
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On 06/05/2012 20:31, Turk182 wrote:
> Hello Martin. Your snippage suggestion is valid, but it also tells me
> that you are a neat and economic person.
Oh, how easy it is to deceive! On the internet, no-one knows I'm a slob!
> Hello Martin. Your snippage suggestion is valid, but it also tells me
> that you are a neat and economic person.
> A person who doesn't like
> things getting messy, which ties into your suggestion that you do not
> blow anywhere near 17 times per day! Where your diet in concerned,
> are you getting 5 a day?
trumps mine?
Where my diet is concerned, I may not be getting 5 diets a day, but I
may be getting more than one, judging by how much my older clothes seem
to have shrunk.
> Let it all out Martin. You have a tendency to retentive behaviour.
> This can make your tummy swell, and in a bad case - you could explode!
>
> I'm not a fan of this subject. I'll be happy when it passes.
definitely something that deserves an airing.
--
Martin
J. P. Gilliver (John)
May 6, 2012, 5:22:50 PM5/6/12
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In message
<d960b809-8ad2-4815...@j16g2000vbl.googlegroups.com>,
mean; as an UMRA poster, you're already in: once you join, you can never
escape!)
[]
think, when Daaavid [her husbad] really suggested they should get out of
dairy, and she'd lose her beloved cows.)
>Northumberland is wonderful. I lived there for 5 years. I miss it
>greatly.
I go back twice a year (well, to Newcastle, which is within visiting
distance).
[]
http://film.britishcouncil.org/british-council-film-collection, which
have just been released ...
[]
[]
<d960b809-8ad2-4815...@j16g2000vbl.googlegroups.com>,
Turk182 <digital...@aol.com> writes:
>On May 6, 11:18 am, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
><G6...@soft255.demon.co.uk> wrote:
[]
>On May 6, 11:18 am, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
><G6...@soft255.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>> Does the fact that those are in the past tense mean you've now fallen?
>
>Emm yes. I suppose so. Easing in as it were.
Don't worry, it can take some years. (Settling in as a TA listener, I
>
>Emm yes. I suppose so. Easing in as it were.
mean; as an UMRA poster, you're already in: once you join, you can never
escape!)
[]
>Yes, when I first heard her, I really thought it was someone I knew.
>I like her soothing character and voice. I love the reassuring lack
>of hysteria.
(Keep listening - it does come along! Last significant time was, I
>I like her soothing character and voice. I love the reassuring lack
>of hysteria.
think, when Daaavid [her husbad] really suggested they should get out of
dairy, and she'd lose her beloved cows.)
>Northumberland is wonderful. I lived there for 5 years. I miss it
>greatly.
distance).
[]
>> slowly; if you really want to hear stilted delivery, listen to some of
>> the archive recordings which abound: they're comical!
>> []
>
>Good point. Have you seen or heard some of the early Candid Camera
>recordings? They are a wonderful insight into conversational
>mannerisms of the era. The frantic expressions of the confused mind
>apprear often; "Would you come and help me Mr Jarvis only I think I'm
>going mad?" There were frequent references to fear of mental
>disintegration. Obviously today we no longer find this prospect so
>awful, or maybe we even see it as desireable when coping with our
>obviously made world.
You'd enjoy
>> the archive recordings which abound: they're comical!
>> []
>
>Good point. Have you seen or heard some of the early Candid Camera
>recordings? They are a wonderful insight into conversational
>mannerisms of the era. The frantic expressions of the confused mind
>apprear often; "Would you come and help me Mr Jarvis only I think I'm
>going mad?" There were frequent references to fear of mental
>disintegration. Obviously today we no longer find this prospect so
>awful, or maybe we even see it as desireable when coping with our
>obviously made world.
http://film.britishcouncil.org/british-council-film-collection, which
have just been released ...
[]
>I like a bit of thread wander, What may feel like a boundary breach
>to you may feel like oxygen to another. Still. I'm not here to upset
>anyone (just now), so I thank you for your welcome too!
>
It was meant! You'll soon get the hang of how we wander.
>to you may feel like oxygen to another. Still. I'm not here to upset
>anyone (just now), so I thank you for your welcome too!
>
[]
>> "I'm a paranoid agnostic. I doubt the existence of God, but I'm sure there is
>> some force, somewhere, working against me." - Marc Maron
>
>If god is with me now, may he sit quietly until I ask him to speak.
[]
>> some force, somewhere, working against me." - Marc Maron
>
>If god is with me now, may he sit quietly until I ask him to speak.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
J. P. Gilliver (John)
May 6, 2012, 5:29:29 PM5/6/12
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In message
<e44ea94a-e3a6-454a...@n5g2000vbf.googlegroups.com>,
Turk182 <digital...@aol.com> writes:
[]
in APIHNA too.)
<e44ea94a-e3a6-454a...@n5g2000vbf.googlegroups.com>,
Turk182 <digital...@aol.com> writes:
[]
>I accept your gift and thank you; although I have already come unstuck
>as I have managed to get virtual choclate biscuit crumbs in my
>keyboard - but thanks Vicky.
>
>Please accept this clump of virtual compost that I picked up on the
>Gardeners World newsgroup.
>
>Turk182
>
Chuckle! You've definitely got the hang of UMRA, IMO. (And would fit in
>as I have managed to get virtual choclate biscuit crumbs in my
>keyboard - but thanks Vicky.
>
>Please accept this clump of virtual compost that I picked up on the
>Gardeners World newsgroup.
>
>Turk182
>
in APIHNA too.)
carolet
May 7, 2012, 7:14:02 AM5/7/12
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then.
--
CaroleT
Robin Fairbairns
May 7, 2012, 6:05:00 PM5/7/12
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J. P. Gilliver (John)
May 7, 2012, 7:47:58 PM5/7/12
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In message <a0pduu...@mid.individual.net>, Martin Clark
[]
you've started ...
more *interesting* to live not knowing than to have answers which might be
wrong. - Richard Feynman, in 1981 Horizon interview
<re...@your.peril> writes:
>On 06/05/2012 20:31, Turk182 wrote:
>
>> Hello Martin. Your snippage suggestion is valid, but it also tells me
>> that you are a neat and economic person.
>
>Oh, how easy it is to deceive! On the internet, no-one knows I'm a slob!
Oh, that (second part) has gone into my quotes file!
>On 06/05/2012 20:31, Turk182 wrote:
>
>> Hello Martin. Your snippage suggestion is valid, but it also tells me
>> that you are a neat and economic person.
>
>Oh, how easy it is to deceive! On the internet, no-one knows I'm a slob!
[]
>> Let it all out Martin. You have a tendency to retentive behaviour.
>> This can make your tummy swell, and in a bad case - you could explode!
>>
>> I'm not a fan of this subject. I'll be happy when it passes.
>
>A fan might be useful to waft away any unpleasant odours. It is
>definitely something that deserves an airing.
You've definitely arrived in UMRA when a punthread arises from something
>> This can make your tummy swell, and in a bad case - you could explode!
>>
>> I'm not a fan of this subject. I'll be happy when it passes.
>
>A fan might be useful to waft away any unpleasant odours. It is
>definitely something that deserves an airing.
you've started ...
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
I can live with doubt, and uncertainty, and not knowing. I think it's much
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
more *interesting* to live not knowing than to have answers which might be
wrong. - Richard Feynman, in 1981 Horizon interview
J. P. Gilliver (John)
May 7, 2012, 7:49:17 PM5/7/12
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In message
<spampoppy-5DB48...@surfnet-nl.ipv4.ptr.145.109.x.invalid>,
EllTee <spam...@thetames.me.uk> writes:
[]
"I think our minds must be _too_ highly trained." (Vroomfondel to
Majikthise, or vice versa.)
<spampoppy-5DB48...@surfnet-nl.ipv4.ptr.145.109.x.invalid>,
EllTee <spam...@thetames.me.uk> writes:
[]
>comical in its billhookness :-) We struggled to find enough areas of
>sensible disagreement to explore - both being of superior intellect no
>doubt.
[]
>sensible disagreement to explore - both being of superior intellect no
>doubt.
"I think our minds must be _too_ highly trained." (Vroomfondel to
Majikthise, or vice versa.)
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
Captain Paralytic
May 8, 2012, 8:32:51 AM5/8/12
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On May 6, 11:09 am, Turk182 <digitalradi...@aol.com> wrote:
> Oh yes. I am trying to get into TA a little more know, so let's hope I
> do not become one of these tetchy people who always gets distracted by
> small detail.
Quite agree. There are more than enough of us here already. Don't need
> Oh yes. I am trying to get into TA a little more know, so let's hope I
> do not become one of these tetchy people who always gets distracted by
> small detail.
another one quite yet!
K Richard Whitbread
May 8, 2012, 3:24:20 AM5/8/12
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Dr Nick <3-no...@temporary-address.org.uk> wrote
Nixon tapes.
What was he talking about?
--
Kosmo Richard W
SNELLSS
>If you played a recording of any real incident or conversation it would
>be almost unintelligible.
Did any of you see the dramatisation on I think Sky Arts of some of the
>be almost unintelligible.
Nixon tapes.
What was he talking about?
--
Kosmo Richard W
SNELLSS
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