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Derek Pratt

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Jan 20, 2001, 2:06:20 PM1/20/01
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Ahoy Archers aficionados! - can someone settle an old argument? Who filled
the 6-45pm slot after Dick Barton ended?
Everyone immediately says The Archers but although I was only a wee lad at
the time, I seem to remember a short lived series called 'The Daring
Dexters'. It was an everyday story of circus folk which didn't catch on with
the public. I think the Archers followed them - can anyone confirm or dare
to deny?
Derek Pratt


Chris McMillan

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Jan 21, 2001, 10:39:19 AM1/21/01
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In article <94er3e$fqa$1...@lure.pipex.net>, Derek Pratt
<watp...@aol.com> writes

>Ahoy Archers aficionados! - can someone settle an old argument? Who filled
>the 6-45pm slot after Dick Barton ended?
>Everyone immediately says The Archers but although
>
Definitely the Archers: Norman Painting has said so among others.

Sincerely Chris (not quite of this world in Jan. 1951 but considering
it)

>I was only a wee lad at
>the time, I seem to remember a short lived series called 'The Daring
>Dexters'. It was an everyday story of circus folk which didn't catch on with
>the public. I think the Archers followed them - can anyone confirm or dare
>to deny?
>Derek Pratt
>
>

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Chris McMillan

Ian Wilson

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Jan 21, 2001, 11:53:41 AM1/21/01
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In article <94er3e$fqa$1...@lure.pipex.net>, Derek Pratt
<watp...@aol.com> writes
I remember very well how upset I felt when Dick Barton, Special Agent,
together with Snowey White and Jock and were replaced by The Archers but
I am fairly sure that there was no other program between the end of Dick
Barton and the start of The Archers.
--
Ian Wilson
Leamington Spa, Warwickshire, UK.

Roger Burton West

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Jan 21, 2001, 12:06:01 PM1/21/01
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In article <94er3e$fqa$1...@lure.pipex.net>,

No idea about dates, but The Daring Dexters was on the Light Programme
on Sunday 29 June 1947. See
http://www.manchesteronline.co.uk/ewm/mew/mew126.html which a quick
google brought me.

Firedrake R

Mike McMillan

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Jan 21, 2001, 12:13:14 PM1/21/01
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In article <hBRj3WAV...@ntlworld.com>, Ian Wilson
<r.ian....@ntlworld.com> writes

Ah Yes! It comes back to me now; in the DID that had Norman
Painting (a friend of Phil Archer I believe) shipwrecked on the island,
he mentioned about this series 'The Daring Dexters' he wrote for them I
think and he commented that they had to research the info and background
of 'High Wire Act' bods etc. HTH.

Toodle Trip,

Mike

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Mike Ruddock

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Jan 21, 2001, 4:26:12 PM1/21/01
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On 21 Jan 2001 17:06:01 -0000, Roger Burton West
<ro...@nospam.firedrake.org> wrote:


>
>No idea about dates, but The Daring Dexters was on the Light Programme
>on Sunday 29 June 1947. See
>http://www.manchesteronline.co.uk/ewm/mew/mew126.html which a quick
>google brought me.
>
>Firedrake R

I remember the Daring Dexters, though I cannot recall when
they appeared in the pre Archers sequence. Could it be that they were
a temporariy replacement for DBSA,( which, I think, didn't run
continuously but had on and off shifts) (1)? The only thing I can
remember about the DDs was that there was a large element of
skull-duggery, attempts to sabotage the circus. One of the nasty
characters was called "Old Nell", but late in teh series she came over
to the "good" side. Of course thsi was long before animal rites (sic)
has entered public consciousness in a big way so the circus featured
lots of animal acts, though I seem to recall that the centrepiece was
some sort of highwire act by the eponymous DDs.

1. I remember reading somehwere that script-writers for DBSA had a
little game where at the end of his (2) stint one of them would leave
DB in an impossible situation from which the next guy had to extrcat
him. "With one bound he was free" was not actually said but often
implied.

2. Always a man, as I recall.

Mike Ruddock


A pedant in pedant's clothing

Andrew John Wineberg

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Jan 22, 2001, 2:39:03 PM1/22/01
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On Sun, 21 Jan 2001 21:26:12 GMT, Mike Ruddock wrote:

> 1. I remember reading somehwere that script-writers for DBSA had a
> little game where at the end of his (2)

[...]


> 2. Always a man, as I recall.

Two men indeed: none other than Webb & Mason, in fact, two of the
original TA script-writers OAM.

--
AJW in Stanmore HA7

K Richard W

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Jan 22, 2001, 5:51:58 PM1/22/01
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umrat, Andrew John Wineberg who posted on Mon, 22 Jan 2001 distracted me
sufficiently with the following opinion of recent events:

>two of the
>original TA script-writers OAM.

Not two of the original TA sws, but the TWO original TA sws.
--
Kosmo Richard W
LSS super-numerary

Stephen

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Jan 24, 2001, 9:51:12 PM1/24/01
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Also Sprach Ian Wilson <r.ian....@ntlworld.com>:

A pedant writes...

Not actually the start of The Archers - the last DB,SA was Friday 30
March 1951, and as we all know, TA started on 1 January 1951, so
presumably TA ran in a different slot before the move to 6:45pm on (I
assume) Monday 2 April 1951.

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Stephen

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Maurice Sendak

marymul...@gmail.com

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May 8, 2018, 10:09:37 AM5/8/18
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I am an 82 yr old lady (who obviously keeps up with Technology) and have often had this dispute about which programme followed Dick Barton and I have always maintained it was the Daring Dexter’s, which was about a circus family and I listened to as a young girl and enjoyed , I am Happy to be vindicated.

krw

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May 8, 2018, 10:33:38 AM5/8/18
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On 08/05/2018 15:09, marymul...@gmail.com wrote; my response is
lower down:
> I am an 82 yr old lady (who obviously keeps up with Technology) and have often had this dispute about which programme followed Dick Barton and I have always maintained it was the Daring Dexter’s, which was about a circus family and I listened to as a young girl and enjoyed , I am Happy to be vindicated.
>
Wikipedia says both were broadcast for a while and the Dick Barton slot
was taken by The Archers when the former was cancelled:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Barton#Cancellation

This says otherwise:
https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2015/oct/09/from-dick-barton-to-the-archers-via-the-daring-dexters
without any details.

As does this:
http://tonycunnane.uk/page-122.html

The truth?
The Daring Dexters : A daily serial replaced Dick Barton after the first
series ended from 2 June 1947. This thriller serial of the circus
featured Granville Eves as Dan Dexter, ex-high-wire performer and boss
of Dexter's Grand Circus. Bill, his son, was played by James Viccars,
and Sherry, his wire-walking daughter, by Olive Kirby. Beppo, the
philosophical white-faced clown, was Franklyn Bellamy, and Tangey, the
red-headed he-man Edward Percival. There was also a character called Old
Meg who worked at the Pay Desk, a malevolent, vicious old woman whose
sole aim was to set family members against each other and who eventually
resorted to violence at least once to get her way - cutting the trapeze
ropes! Comedy relief came from the Augustes, Tony (Charles Lamb) and
Gump (John Sharpe).
Frederick Allen announced. Raymond Raikes produced and Goeffrey Webb
wrote the script.
There was an omnibus version every Sunday morning until the series ended
on 3 October and the second series of Dick Barton began.

Taken from:
http://www.turnipnet.com/whirligig/radio/dickbarton.htm

So The Dexters were a fill in when Dick Barton was off air but before it
was cancelled allowing TA to occupy the 18:45 slot.

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the Omrud

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May 8, 2018, 10:57:22 AM5/8/18
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On 08/05/2018 15:09, marymul...@gmail.com wrote:
> I am an 82 yr old lady (who obviously keeps up with Technology) and have often had this dispute about which programme followed Dick Barton and I have always maintained it was the Daring Dexter’s, which was about a circus family and I listened to as a young girl and enjoyed , I am Happy to be vindicated.

BBC Genome is your friend.

30/03/1951: Dick Barton final episode
https://genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/schedules/light/1951-03-30 at 18:15

The Archers seems to have started in January 1951, but at 11:45. After
Dick Barton finished, it switched to 18:45.

The Daring Dexters seems to have been much earlier:
https://genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/41b49fa4206c4c1c87d0009fdf99f214

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David

Sid Nuncius

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May 8, 2018, 1:36:37 PM5/8/18
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On 08/05/2018 15:09, marymul...@gmail.com wrote:
> I am an 82 yr old lady (who obviously keeps up with Technology) and have often had this dispute about which programme followed Dick Barton and I have always maintained it was the Daring Dexter’s, which was about a circus family and I listened to as a young girl and enjoyed , I am Happy to be vindicated.

Welcome to umra, Mary! Do hang around now you're here.


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Btms

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May 8, 2018, 2:32:26 PM5/8/18
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Sid Nuncius <matron....@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> On 08/05/2018 15:09, marymul...@gmail.com wrote:
>> I am an 82 yr old lady (who obviously keeps up with Technology) and
>> have often had this dispute about which programme followed Dick Barton
>> and I have always maintained it was the Daring Dexter’s, which was about
>> a circus family and I listened to as a young girl and enjoyed , I am
>> Happy to be vindicated.
>
> Welcome to umra, Mary! Do hang around now you're here.
>
>

And me. 😊

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J. P. Gilliver (John)

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May 8, 2018, 9:45:49 PM5/8/18
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>And me. ?
>
And [from] me.

Just a tip: never crosspost between UMRA and other 'groups. Before
anotherrat (UMRA posters are called UMRAts, and you'll find words like
somerat, anotherrat, and so on) posted what appears to be the canonical
answer to your question (the Daring Dexters having filled a gap in Dick
Barton, but not having come between it and The Archers), I was tempted
to crosspost your question to uk.media.radio.bbc-r4, as it seemed to me
to be a valid question for both 'groups; however, I'm glad I didn't have
to, as crossposting really causes somerats to have apoplectic fits.

Welcome, anyway! New UMRAts are always welcome.
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