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Heather Knowles

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At last! Go on, Tommy (*not* Tom), go for it, boy!

:)
--

lotsa luv, Heather xxxxxxx (the umra slapper)
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Robin Fairbairns

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Heather Knowles <heaven...@fanged.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>At last! Go on, Tommy (*not* Tom), go for it, boy!

yes!!! i do hope he's reading this: we're behind, you, lad!

what the hell does she mean, the accounts would be *easier* if the
sausages were vat registered?

>lotsa luv, Heather xxxxxxx (the umra slapper)

i wish you wouldn't say that (the parenthesised bit, i mean).
--
Robin Fairbairns, Cambridge

Alan Craig

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On Fri, 2 Apr 1999 19:28:08 +0100, Heather Knowles
<heaven...@fanged.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>At last! Go on, Tommy (*not* Tom), go for it, boy!


I was in the library yesterday waiting for my daughter and picked out
the 'Book of the Archers' that's often mentioned here. The entry for
Tom(my) said 'prefers to be called Tom'

Jonathan Calder

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I remember this being discussed a few years ago, and we were told that Tom
hated being called Tommy. [This was before he was able to speak.]

I am afraid that we are faced with a straightforward continuity error.

Jonathan


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Siderius Nuncius

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Heather Knowles wrote in message ...

>At last! Go on, Tommy (*not* Tom), go for it, boy!


Yes yes yes yes yes yes.

There were two of us in the kitchen yelling, "Good for you, son" and "Follow
up with the right hook, boy" and the like.

There was some dispute chez nous about what had been said at the
cross-carrying. The wofe thought they said "Helen should have stayed - Yes
.....I'm glad I saw it" But I thought it was "....glad I saw *her*", in a
ruminative tone which I took to mean, "Blimey, has poor old Pat got to deal
with that, too?" Anyone got the definitive version?

Regards

Sid
(Shepherds Bush, West London)

Robin Fairbairns

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Jonathan Calder <Jonatha...@joncal.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>I remember this being discussed a few years ago, and we were told that Tom
>hated being called Tommy. [This was before he was able to speak.]

it's actually been discussed in the last few months, here on umra.

>I am afraid that we are faced with a straightforward continuity error.

my interpretation is that, once he'd learnt to speak, he realised that
he was quite capable of coping with the name he'd grown up with. it
often happens, you know:

irritating parent: "of course, tommy doesn't like being called that
any more, and wants us to call him _tom_ <poorly suppressed chortle>"

tommy (for it is he): "oh, don't be so silly <parent>, i'm quite happy
being called whatever people want to call me, within reason".
--
Robin Fairbairns, Cambridge

Chris McMillan

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In article <7e33dj$aod$1...@pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk>, Robin Fairbairns
<URL:mailto:r...@betsy.cl.cam.ac.uk> wrote:

> Heather Knowles <heaven...@fanged.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> >At last! Go on, Tommy (*not* Tom), go for it, boy!
>
> yes!!! i do hope he's reading this: we're behind, you, lad!
>
> what the hell does she mean, the accounts would be *easier* if the
> sausages were vat registered?
>
I didn't notice that: well, for one thing they'll not be getting as much VAT
back as they might: they probably also have to show the sausages as a
separate account in some way or other. Very cruel to compare Tommy to the
Grundies though.

Sincerely, Chris

--
Mrs. Chris McMillan. Tel. 0118 926 5450. e-mail:
ch...@mikesounds.demon.co.uk http://www.mikesounds.demon.co.uk/


Chris McMillan

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In article <n9zVoHA4...@fanged.demon.co.uk>, Heather Knowles

<URL:mailto:heaven...@fanged.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> At last! Go on, Tommy (*not* Tom), go for it, boy!
>
Yup: first we have Pat at Tony's throat, as Tommy has been, and now we've
got Tommy standing up to Hell-en. Excellent!

Heather Knowles

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Robin Fairbairns <r...@betsy.cl.cam.ac.uk> writes

>Heather Knowles <heaven...@fanged.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>lotsa luv, Heather xxxxxxx (the umra slapper)
>
>i wish you wouldn't say that (the parenthesised bit, i mean).

<bemused> Why? I go around kissing all these men - a girl gets a
reputation, y'know. Although it was very nice, especially with you
;).....

--

lotsa luv, Heather xxxxxxx (still the umra slapper)

Jonathan Calder

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I'm not wholly convinced. I'd trust even Pat and Tony before I'd trust the
scriptwriters, and I have a nephew Thomas who hates both "Tom" and "Tommy".

Talking of Pat, let's hope Borsetshire has a good Clinical Psychology
Service.

Jonathan


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Robin Fairbairns

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Heather Knowles <heaven...@fanged.demon.co.uk> wrote:
><bemused> Why? I go around kissing all these men - a girl gets a
>reputation, y'know. Although it was very nice, especially with you

i assumed that the chapped lips you complained of came from my rather
mucky beard....
--
Robin Fairbairns, Cambridge

Penny Mayes

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Siderius Nuncius wrote in message <7e398m$ka$1...@epos.tesco.net>...

>
>
>There was some dispute chez nous about what had been said at the
>cross-carrying. The wofe thought they said "Helen should have stayed -
Yes
>.....I'm glad I saw it" But I thought it was "....glad I saw *her*", in
a
>ruminative tone which I took to mean, "Blimey, has poor old Pat got to
deal
>with that, too?" Anyone got the definitive version?

I heard it as '...I'm glad I saw it'.

Penny remove the usual to reply
How dogs are better than men #6
You can train a dog.


Heather Knowles

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Apr 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/3/99
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Robin Fairbairns <r...@betsy.cl.cam.ac.uk> writes

I've only experienced kissing a bearded man for two short periods of my
life, but I don't remember that it gave me chapped lips, so please stop
castigating yourself! :) (Unless you enjoy it, o'course.)

My father always told me that a kiss without a beard was like an egg
without salt, but as he was clean-shaven, I *really* didn't like to ask
how he knew......

--

lotsa luv, Heather xxxxxxx (the umra slapper)

George Middleton

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Jonathan Calder wrote:
>I'm not wholly convinced. I'd trust even Pat and Tony before I'd trust the
>scriptwriters, and I have a nephew Thomas who hates both "Tom" and "Tommy".

I think that there is something strangely disconcerting about young
people who insist on being called Edward, Thomas, William, Rebecca etc.

They could be firestarters.
--
George

John Ross

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Alan Craig wrote in message <370514a9...@news.u-net.com>...
>On Fri, 2 Apr 1999 19:28:08 +0100, Heather Knowles
><heaven...@fanged.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>At last! Go on, Tommy (*not* Tom), go for it, boy!
>
>
>I was in the library yesterday waiting for my daughter and picked out
>the 'Book of the Archers' that's often mentioned here. The entry for
>Tom(my) said 'prefers to be called Tom'

SWs - are you paying attention?

--
John Ross
Southampton

Jonathan Calder

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George Middleton wrote ...

>I think that there is something strangely disconcerting about young
>people who insist on being called Edward, Thomas, William, Rebecca etc.
>
>They could be firestarters.


I am more worried about the current NATO press spokesman: a grown man who
want to be called Jamie.

Jonathan

Niles

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Apr 4, 1999, 4:00:00 AM4/4/99
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Heather Knowles <heaven...@fanged.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>
>My father always told me that a kiss without a beard was like an egg
>without salt, but as he was clean-shaven, I *really* didn't like to ask
>how he knew......

;)

My grandfather had a saying that ran "An apple pie without some cheese
/ is like a kiss without a squeeze."

We think this is American - he spent some time of his academic career
there shortly after the end of WWII.

--
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Peter Hesketh

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In article <371889fc...@news.zetnet.co.uk>, Niles
<alex....@zetnet.co.uk> writes

>Heather Knowles <heaven...@fanged.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>
>>My father always told me that a kiss without a beard was like an egg
>>without salt, but as he was clean-shaven, I *really* didn't like to ask
>>how he knew......
>
>;)
>
>My grandfather had a saying that ran "An apple pie without some cheese
>/ is like a kiss without a squeeze."
>
>We think this is American - he spent some time of his academic career
>there shortly after the end of WWII.

My grandfather b 1877 used to say it, and he had never been to America.
--
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Forty reasons why a dog is better than a woman: number 36
"Dogs enjoy heavy petting in public."

Andrew Wineberg

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In message <7e33dj$aod$1...@pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk>
r...@betsy.cl.cam.ac.uk (Robin Fairbairns) wrote:

> what the hell does she mean, the accounts would be *easier* if the
> sausages were vat registered?

She meant that Tommy would have to prepare them every quarter for the
VAT-man, but this is not true: to complete the VAT return merely(!)
requires the calculation of domestic and EU sales and purchases and
ammounts of input and output VAT. of course.

However, aside from teh fact that Tommy is not turning over the GBP
45000 or whatever the level is for obligatory VATing, registering for
VAT would reduce the attractiveness of the products (I don't suppose
that most of the customers are VAT registered) and would lay his
accounts, business premises and stock open to impromtu visits from HM
C&E officers, and I understand that they are *very* particular about
things being right.

--
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Kate Brown

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In article <fCF+GcAqK5B3Ew$i...@phesk.demon.co.uk>, dated Sun, 4 Apr 1999,
Peter Hesketh <p...@phesk.demon.co.uk> wrote

>In article <371889fc...@news.zetnet.co.uk>, Niles
><alex....@zetnet.co.uk> writes
>>Heather Knowles <heaven...@fanged.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>My father always told me that a kiss without a beard was like an egg
>>>without salt, but as he was clean-shaven, I *really* didn't like to ask
>>>how he knew......
>>
>>;)
>>
>>My grandfather had a saying that ran "An apple pie without some cheese
>>/ is like a kiss without a squeeze."
>>
>>We think this is American - he spent some time of his academic career
>>there shortly after the end of WWII.
>
>My grandfather b 1877 used to say it, and he had never been to America.

I always thought it was a Yorkshire saying, and specifically meant
Wensleydale. I could of course be wrong.


--
Kate B

London

Al Menzies

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On Sun, 04 Apr 1999 20:15:58 +0100, Andrew Wineberg
<A.Win...@BTINTERNET.COM> spake thus:

>In message <7e33dj$aod$1...@pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk>
> r...@betsy.cl.cam.ac.uk (Robin Fairbairns) wrote:
>
>> what the hell does she mean, the accounts would be *easier* if the
>> sausages were vat registered?
>
>She meant that Tommy would have to prepare them every quarter for the
>VAT-man, but this is not true: to complete the VAT return merely(!)
>requires the calculation of domestic and EU sales and purchases and
>ammounts of input and output VAT. of course.
>
>However, aside from teh fact that Tommy is not turning over the GBP
>45000 or whatever the level is for obligatory VATing, registering for
>VAT would reduce the attractiveness of the products (I don't suppose
>that most of the customers are VAT registered) and would lay his
>accounts, business premises and stock open to impromtu visits from HM
>C&E officers, and I understand that they are *very* particular about
>things being right.

But surely sausages wouldn't have VAT on them anyhow, unless they are
served in a restaurant.

al

aitc...@my-dejanews.com

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My grandfather had a saying that ran "An apple pie without some cheese
>>/ is like a kiss without a squeeze."
>>
>>We think this is American - he spent some time of his academic career
>>there shortly after the end of WWII.
>
>My grandfather b 1877 used to say it, and he had never been to America.

I always thought it was a Yorkshire saying, and specifically meant
Wensleydale. I could of course be wrong.


I think you must be in error here,given that Wensleydale is simply a poor
knock- off of Lancashire cheese,without which apple pie is like a kiss...and
jolly nice too...but what about squeeze and biscuits,squeeze on
toast,macaroni squeeze etc.,all of which are good ways of using Lancashire
cheese. steve rarebittenand rabid BHS

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Liz Blades

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Andrew Wineberg <A.Win...@BTINTERNET.COM> wrote:

>In message <7e33dj$aod$1...@pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk>
> r...@betsy.cl.cam.ac.uk (Robin Fairbairns) wrote:

>> what the hell does she mean, the accounts would be *easier* if the
>> sausages were vat registered?

>She meant that Tommy would have to prepare them every quarter for the
>VAT-man, but this is not true: to complete the VAT return merely(!)
>requires the calculation of domestic and EU sales and purchases and
>ammounts of input and output VAT. of course.

Well let me bore you here,you need only to register for VAT if your
turnover is above a certain amount(I'm not sure what it is at the
moment but 50,000 springs to mind) However if you fall below that
amount and are paying VAT on your supplies it is worth registering so
that you can claim the VAT back even if you are not charging it,or
liable to charge it.

In the case of sausages they are deemed as food,so you do not charge
VAT on them however if the packaging can be reused you must
charge(Collect VAT) on that part.

In Tommy's case it would be worth registering for VAT as although the
ingredients are not subject to VAT nor the final product,he will pay
VAT on the packaging as it is not food.

My trade has just had a "row" with HM C& E on a similar point,they do
have a rather interesting page at www.hmce.gov.uk

>However, aside from teh fact that Tommy is not turning over the GBP
>45000 or whatever the level is for obligatory VATing, registering for
>VAT would reduce the attractiveness of the products (I don't suppose
>that most of the customers are VAT registered) and would lay his
>accounts, business premises and stock open to impromtu visits from HM
>C&E officers, and I understand that they are *very* particular about
>things being right.

I've always found the VAT office very approachable,they do not make
(at least in my case ,)impromptu visits,even though they are entitled
to.But most of the time they will ring you to make a mutually
convenient appointment(They can make the SAS look like the
Teletubbies) I have requested them on occassion to visit me to sort
various things out.

Cheers

Liz


Charles F Hankel

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I say, chaps, I just heard that nice Al Menzies say:

> On Sun, 04 Apr 1999 20:15:58 +0100, Andrew Wineberg
> <A.Win...@BTINTERNET.COM> spake thus:
>

> >In message <7e33dj$aod$1...@pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk>
> > r...@betsy.cl.cam.ac.uk (Robin Fairbairns) wrote:
> >
> >> what the hell does she mean, the accounts would be *easier* if the
> >> sausages were vat registered?
> >
> >She meant that Tommy would have to prepare them every quarter for the
> >VAT-man, but this is not true: to complete the VAT return merely(!)
> >requires the calculation of domestic and EU sales and purchases and
> >ammounts of input and output VAT. of course.
> >

> >However, aside from teh fact that Tommy is not turning over the GBP
> >45000 or whatever the level is for obligatory VATing, registering for
> >VAT would reduce the attractiveness of the products (I don't suppose
> >that most of the customers are VAT registered) and would lay his
> >accounts, business premises and stock open to impromtu visits from HM
> >C&E officers, and I understand that they are *very* particular about
> >things being right.
>

> But surely sausages wouldn't have VAT on them anyhow, unless they are
> served in a restaurant.

Quite. As far as I can tell, he could get VAT back on his fuel, phone
and printing costs. That should make registration worthwhile.[1]

[1] This is irony.


--

Charles F Hankel
--------------------------------------
Given up stripping for a healthier way
of passing time during the Easter hols

Min Lacey

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In article <7e8r67$dds$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, aitc...@my-dejanews.com
used the electronic medium to say....

>I think you must be in error here,given that Wensleydale is simply a poor
>knock- off of Lancashire cheese,without which apple pie is like a kiss...and
>jolly nice too...but what about squeeze and biscuits,squeeze on
>toast,macaroni squeeze etc.,all of which are good ways of using Lancashire
>cheese. steve rarebittenand rabid BHS
I cannot allow this b******s^w rubbish to be posted on umra - pistols at
dawn?
--
MinWarof the Roses


Robin Fairbairns

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In article <qk3ueLALx$B3E...@mail0.demon.co.uk>,

Min Lacey <M...@mygaff0.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>In article <7e8r67$dds$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, aitc...@my-dejanews.com
>used the electronic medium to say....
>>I think you must be in error here,given that Wensleydale is simply a poor
>>knock- off of Lancashire cheese, [...]

>
>I cannot allow this b******s^w rubbish to be posted on umra - pistols at
>dawn?

whereas i (as a bit of a cheese fanatic) find the whole proposition
preposterous. there _are_ points of similarity between lancashire and
wensleydale -- for example, neither is a blue cheese -- but to say
that one is a copy of the other is as daft as to say that blue vinney
is merely a copy of stilton, or brie of camembert.

there are few enough of our traditional cheeses still being made,
despite the supreme quality of many[*], that we can't afford to
denigrate any of them.

<pour source="oil" target="troubled waters">
i got some ashdown forest cheese on saturday; a (relatively) new one.
not at all bad ... they never made any cheese that i knew of when i
lived in that area.
</pour>

[*] including all four i mentioned above
--
Robin Fairbairns, Cambridge

Jane Vernon

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In article <qk3ueLALx$B3E...@mail0.demon.co.uk>, Min Lacey
<M...@mygaff0.demon.co.uk> writes

>In article <7e8r67$dds$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, aitc...@my-dejanews.com
>used the electronic medium to say....
>>I think you must be in error here,given that Wensleydale is simply a poor
>>knock- off of Lancashire cheese,without which apple pie is like a kiss...and
>>jolly nice too...but what about squeeze and biscuits,squeeze on
>>toast,macaroni squeeze etc.,all of which are good ways of using Lancashire
>>cheese. steve rarebittenand rabid BHS
>I cannot allow this b******s^w rubbish to be posted on umra - pistols at
>dawn?

Allow me to be your second, Min. Anything in defence of Wensleydale
cheese. And no other blue cheese comes anywhere near Blue Wensleydale,
which after many years I can now once again buy here in Gloucestershire.

Jane
http://www.otbo.demon.co.uk

Steph Johnson

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Andrew Wineberg <A.Win...@BTINTERNET.COM> wrote:

>In message <7e33dj$aod$1...@pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk>
> r...@betsy.cl.cam.ac.uk (Robin Fairbairns) wrote:
>
>However, aside from teh fact that Tommy is not turning over the GBP
>45000 or whatever the level is for obligatory VATing, registering for
>VAT would reduce the attractiveness of the products (I don't suppose
>that most of the customers are VAT registered) and would lay his
>accounts, business premises and stock open to impromtu visits from HM

>C&E officers, and I understand that they are *very* particular about
>things being right.

I have a problem with Helens comments. CMIIW but I thought they'd
established that Tommy's pork and sausages were part of the Bridge
Farm experience (hence all of the hassle over branding etc.) and _not_
a separate business in its own right. If that is so then a) Tommy
doesn't need to do the accounts, they are part of BF's responsibility
('though I accept that T may have to keep the relevant info for input
to them) and b) surely BF as a whole (the farm, dairy, (extinct) shop
etc.) is probably registered for VAT so T's "accounts" should be going
into them already.


--
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Steph Johnson

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Min Lacey <M...@mygaff0.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>I cannot allow this b******s^w rubbish to be posted on umra - pistols at
>dawn?

Sorry but unless you mean water pistols the government made them
illegal last September - I'll have to place you under (virtual) arrest
just for suggesting it ;-)

Heather Knowles

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Steph Johnson <sj...@sbjhome.cixy.co.uk> writes

>Min Lacey <M...@mygaff0.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>I cannot allow this b******s^w rubbish to be posted on umra - pistols at
>>dawn?
>
>Sorry but unless you mean water pistols the government made them
>illegal last September - I'll have to place you under (virtual) arrest
>just for suggesting it ;-)
>
No! Not our Min!

Quick, fellow umrats, a virtual cake with a file in it is called
for.....

SimGardner

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In article <kaKlxNAT...@fanged.demon.co.uk>, Heather Knowles
<heaven...@fanged.demon.co.uk> writes:

>Steph Johnson <sj...@sbjhome.cixy.co.uk> writes
>>Min Lacey <M...@mygaff0.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>I cannot allow this b******s^w rubbish to be posted on umra - pistols at
>>>dawn?
>>
>>Sorry but unless you mean water pistols the government made them
>>illegal last September - I'll have to place you under (virtual) arrest
>>just for suggesting it ;-)
>>
>No! Not our Min!
>
>Quick, fellow umrats, a virtual cake with a file in it is called
>for.....

There's been a terrible mincarriage of justice. Free Min! Free Min!

<attempts to create a distraction while the masked umrats spring our heroine>

Announcing the late arrivals at the legal ball: "Will you welcome, please, Mr
and Mrs
Jove-Justice and their lovely daughter Miss Carrie"

Simon Gardner (for e-mail leave the end off)

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[from the character Mrs. Grundy in "Speed the Plough" (1798) by Thomas Merton]


Chris J Dixon

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Kate Brown wrote:

>In article <fCF+GcAqK5B3Ew$i...@phesk.demon.co.uk>, dated Sun, 4 Apr 1999,
>Peter Hesketh <p...@phesk.demon.co.uk> wrote
>>In article <371889fc...@news.zetnet.co.uk>, Niles
>><alex....@zetnet.co.uk> writes
>>>

>>>My grandfather had a saying that ran "An apple pie without some cheese
>>>/ is like a kiss without a squeeze."
>>>
>>>We think this is American - he spent some time of his academic career
>>>there shortly after the end of WWII.
>>
>>My grandfather b 1877 used to say it, and he had never been to America.
>
>I always thought it was a Yorkshire saying, and specifically meant
>Wensleydale. I could of course be wrong.

It is one of the few sayings that I learned from my dad, b
Yorkshire 1908.

Can't say I particularly like apple pie, with or without.
A squeeze, however ,,,,

Chris
--
Chris J Dixon Nottingham
'48/50/22 M B+ G+ A L(-) I S-- CH-(--) Ar++ T+ H0 ?Q Sh+
chris...@easynet.co.uk
Have dancing shoes, will ceilidh.

Paddy Smith

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George Middleton wrote:
>
> Jonathan Calder wrote:
> >I'm not wholly convinced. I'd trust even Pat and Tony before I'd trust the
> >scriptwriters, and I have a nephew Thomas who hates both "Tom" and "Tommy".
>
> I think that there is something strangely disconcerting about young
> people who insist on being called Edward, Thomas, William, Rebecca etc.
>
> They could be firestarters.


That's a Prodigious occupation.


Paddy

obArchers: smack my Bridge Farm up (advice to Pat: inhale! exhale!)

andy roberts

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Jane Vernon <ja...@otbo.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
<gVh4mCA7...@otbo.demon.co.uk> :

>Allow me to be your second, Min. Anything in defence of Wensleydale
>cheese. And no other blue cheese comes anywhere near Blue Wensleydale,
>which after many years I can now once again buy here in Gloucestershire.
>

I'd give anything for half a pound of Lymeswold.

--
Andy R
Refusing to pay the Internet tax .

Siderius Nuncius

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SimGardner wrote in message
<19990405083201...@ngol05.aol.com>...

>Announcing the late arrivals at the legal ball: "Will you welcome, please,
Mr
>and Mrs
>Jove-Justice and their lovely daughter Miss Carrie"


Nonononononono! It was bad enough when Niles started that "I went to...."
stuff, and I am NOT going to get involved in another....er....

Will you welcome please,
Mr and Mrs Injustice, and their daughter Anna Pauline Injustice.

Mr and Mrs Ischarlie-Dimmock, and their son Hugh. (Guests of Mr. R.
Fairbairns)

Mr and Mrs Fitter-Clergy, and their son Benny.

Mr and Mrs Forethought and their daughter Melissa

Oh dear. I have a very bad feeling about this.

Regards

Sid
(Shepherds Bush, West London)

Fenny

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Heather Knowles wrote:

> I've only experienced kissing a bearded man for two short periods of my
> life, but I don't remember that it gave me chapped lips, so please stop
> castigating yourself! :) (Unless you enjoy it, o'course.)

I always found kissing persons with beards to be highly enjoyable :-)

Fenny
--
"Sadly, the cat dies." Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency
(All cats contained in this .sig are fictional. No actual cats were
harmed in any way in the production of this .sig.)

yorks...@net.ntl.com ICQ:23922069

SimGardner

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In article <370e9e38...@news.zetnet.co.uk>, andy...@zetnet.co.uk (andy
roberts) writes:

>I'd give anything for half a pound of Lymeswold.

Wouldn't you need a time machine - do they make it any more?

Oh, does Bridge Farm produce cheese (I have a lot to catch up here and may have
missed something). Do we know what it's like (apart from having very nice
labels)?

Simon Gardner (for e-mail leave the end off)

---


"gruesome, gruff, grumble, grump,... ah here it is..."

Grundy n. (pl. -ies) s.o. embodying unconventional propriety and piggery
[from the character Joe Grundy in "Spend the Rent" (1999) by Mrs. Merton]


aitc...@my-dejanews.com

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Apr 5, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/5/99
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In article <7e8r67$dds$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, aitc...@my-dejanews.com
used the electronic medium to say....
>I think you must be in error here,given that Wensleydale is simply a poor
>knock- off of Lancashire cheese,without which apple pie is like a kiss...and
>jolly nice too...but what about squeeze and biscuits,squeeze on
>toast,macaroni squeeze etc.,all of which are good ways of using Lancashire
>cheese. steve rarebittenand rabid BHS
I cannot allow this b******s^w rubbish to be posted on umra - pistols at
dawn?
--
MinWarof the Roses
Hi,Min
Cheese balls at 20 paces,I'll bring my troll and we'll have a buffet...how's
Pitville?

Steve Mahon Curado BHS

aitc...@my-dejanews.com

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>>I think you must be in error here,given that Wensleydale is simply a poor
>>knock- off of Lancashire cheese, [...]

>
>I cannot allow this b******s^w rubbish to be posted on umra - pistols at
>dawn?

>whereas i (as a bit of a cheese fanatic)
Me too Robin..


>find the whole proposition
>preposterous.

Perhaps I wasn't being entirely serious,folks...despite having to post through
dejanews...

> there _are_ points of similarity between lancashire and
wensleydale -- for example, neither is a blue cheese -- but to say
that one is a copy of the other is as daft as to say that blue vinney
is merely a copy of stilton, or brie of camembert.

Let me first admit,Robin,that I haven't tasted Wensleydale for a good 15
years,and the last time I did,the crisis in the production of W.had reached a
very serious stage,and this reflected on its quality,it was the time when EEC
regs had forced out most of the farm made cheese,and they were also forbidden
to make the superb blue variety of W.Conversely my parents live in
Longridge,Lancs, hard by Whalley where the last real farmhouse Lancashire was
made (Paxton & Whitfield being a regular and grateful wholesale customer..so I
have never been short of supplies of good L.

there are few enough of our traditional cheeses still being made,
despite the supreme quality of many[*], that we can't afford to
denigrate any of them.

AOL
Steve nowhey BHS

aitc...@my-dejanews.com

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Apr 5, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/5/99
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Min Lacey <M...@mygaff0.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>I cannot allow this b******s^w rubbish to be posted on umra - pistols at
>dawn?

Sorry but unless you mean water pistols the government made them


illegal last September - I'll have to place you under (virtual) arrest
just for suggesting it ;-)

'S'ok ,Min...come over to my place,and we can shoot each other in the
sunshine...
Steve say squeeze BHS

Liz Blades

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Apr 5, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/5/99
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Fenny <yorks...@pop.net.ntl.com> wrote:

>I always found kissing persons with beards to be highly enjoyable :-)

So do I.


Liz

John Ross

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Siderius Nuncius wrote in message <7eak8k$a2f$3...@epos.tesco.net>...

>
>SimGardner wrote in message
><19990405083201...@ngol05.aol.com>...
>>Announcing the late arrivals at the legal ball: "Will you welcome,
>>please, Mr and Mrs Jove-Justice and their lovely daughter Miss
>>Carrie"

>Nonononononono! It was bad enough when Niles started that "I went
>to...." stuff, and I am NOT going to get involved in

>another....er.... Oh dear. I have a very bad feeling about this.

Quite rightly so, too. Will you welcome please:

Lottery winners Mr and Mrs Umbers, and their well endowed daughter,
Megan ...

Civil servant Mr Intheformplease and his son Phil ...

Not forgetting that carparking tearaway, Timetofeedthemeter, a.k.a
Justin ...

Ah, I can just see that family of regal air approaching, the
Albearings, with their son, Roy ...

A very big hand, please, for the well known Vietnamese musicians Pia
No, Wi Nd, and Stri Ng, better known as the Trios ...

And in the swim of it all are Lphins with their beautiful daughter,
known to all as Dol, and her Slavic boyfriend Wal, who is, of course,
a Rus ...

Close behing them is the notorious womaniser, Er-Whale. That's Kyle,
by the way. He takes his surname from his mother, who never knew
what to say, and his dad Blue, who said too much ...

At last! The couple we've all been waiting for. The Icates, and
their only son. They dote on him, he's forever eating, the little
Master ...

Well. We're just about all here. It only remains to bid a hearty
welcome to the LeypleaselaymedownafterallthatImwornout's, and their
children Ash, Hay, Brad and Shell.

There. It was much worse than you expected, wasn't it!


And one really late arrival. Will you welcome, please, Mr and Mrs
Bennettdidthatloteatallthefoodbeforewegothere. They have their son
with them, but his name escapes me for the moment ...

--
John Ross
Southampton

Niles

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Apr 5, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/5/99
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Peter Hesketh <p...@phesk.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>>Heather Knowles <heaven...@fanged.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>My father always told me that a kiss without a beard was like an egg
>>>without salt, but as he was clean-shaven, I *really* didn't like to ask
>>>how he knew......
>>
>>;)
>>

>>My grandfather had a saying that ran "An apple pie without some cheese
>>/ is like a kiss without a squeeze."
>>
>>We think this is American - he spent some time of his academic career
>>there shortly after the end of WWII.
>
>My grandfather b 1877 used to say it, and he had never been to America.

Well, that's nuggered that one then! Is it Zumerzet?

--
"[This] is what a young man ought to be. | Niles, Leominster
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them should know no moderation, and leave |
him no sense of fatigue." Jane Austen | www.niles.zetnet.co.uk

George Middleton

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Apr 5, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/5/99
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Fenny wrote:
>I always found kissing persons with beards to be highly enjoyable :-)


CLOWN. Now Jove, in his next commodity of hair, send thee a beard!
VIOLA. By my troth, I'll tell thee, I am almost sick for one;
[Aside] though I would not have it grow on my chin.- Is thy lady
within?
I've always thought of that as being one of Shakey's cleverer lines.
--
George

George Middleton

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Apr 5, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/5/99
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SimGardner wrote:
>>I'd give anything for half a pound of Lymeswold.
>
>Wouldn't you need a time machine - do they make it any more?

Gosh! I counted it in and I've counted it out again.
(has it really gone?)

I remember it starting because its made-up name was similar to Wymeswold
which is where I served in the RAF.
--
George

Robin Fairbairns

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Apr 5, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/5/99
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In article <hB$ckXADv...@leton.demon.co.uk>,

George Middleton <Mi...@leton.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>SimGardner wrote:
>>>I'd give anything for half a pound of Lymeswold.
>>
>>Wouldn't you need a time machine - do they make it any more?
>
>Gosh! I counted it in and I've counted it out again.
>(has it really gone?)

i have the impression that it flickers in and out of existence, like a
virtual particle on the event horizon of the black hole of destiny.

>I remember it starting because its made-up name was similar to Wymeswold
>which is where I served in the RAF.

i even bought some once. tasted like most other made-for-supermarket
cheeses, to me.
--
Robin Fairbairns, Cambridge

Andrew Wineberg

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Apr 5, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/5/99
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In message <gVh4mCA7...@otbo.demon.co.uk>
Jane Vernon <ja...@otbo.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> Allow me to be your second, Min. Anything in defence of Wensleydale
> cheese.

Wensleydale? Oh yes, that's that cheese that's so similar to Cheshire
that the choice as to which label is stuck on it is arbitrary.

--
AJW in Stanmore, HA7,
running for bunker (locked) and then for wavy corn-field.

Andrew Wineberg

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In message <3707e193...@news.u-net.com>
a...@betterwords.u-net.com (Al Menzies) wrote:

> But surely sausages wouldn't have VAT on them anyhow, unless they are
> served in a restaurant.

Oops, I forgot about this. Sausages do, in coming with all foodstuffs
designated non-luxury, attract VAT but at the paltry rate of 0%.
However, when hidden, the full 17.5% is applied as to most other
service-industries.

--
AJW in Stanmore, HA7.
Umrageek: 1979/11 M B>~ G() A(+) L I S- P- CH++ Ar++ T++ ?H ?Q Sh!
Portrait and details at http://www.BTINTERNET.COM/~a.wineberg/

Andrew Wineberg

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In message <3708696c...@news.compulink.co.uk>
sj...@sbjhome.cixy.co.uk (Steph Johnson) wrote:

> I have a problem with Helens comments. CMIIW but I thought they'd
> established that Tommy's pork and sausages were part of the Bridge
> Farm experience (hence all of the hassle over branding etc.) and _not_
> a separate business in its own right.

I think that Hell-en (and Tony and Pat by association) would *like*
Bridge Farm Sausages to be hidden away as part of Bridge Farm
International (UK) plc, but, clearly, from Hell-en's comments, the
sausage business is currently separate from the farm.

K Richard W

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Apr 5, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/5/99
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As ever I was enchanted by Robin Fairbairns, who had nothing better to
do on Mon, 5 Apr 1999 but add to village gossip with:

>In article <qk3ueLALx$B3E...@mail0.demon.co.uk>,


>Min Lacey <M...@mygaff0.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>In article <7e8r67$dds$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, aitc...@my-dejanews.com
>>used the electronic medium to say....

>>>I think you must be in error here,given that Wensleydale is simply a poor
>>>knock- off of Lancashire cheese, [...]
>>

>>I cannot allow this b******s^w rubbish to be posted on umra - pistols at
>>dawn?
>

>whereas i (as a bit of a cheese fanatic) find the whole proposition
>preposterous. there _are_ points of similarity between lancashire and


>wensleydale -- for example, neither is a blue cheese -- but to say
>that one is a copy of the other is as daft as to say that blue vinney
>is merely a copy of stilton, or brie of camembert.
>

>there are few enough of our traditional cheeses still being made,
>despite the supreme quality of many[*], that we can't afford to
>denigrate any of them.
>

><pour source="oil" target="troubled waters">
>i got some ashdown forest cheese on saturday; a (relatively) new one.
>not at all bad ... they never made any cheese that i knew of when i
>lived in that area.
></pour>
>

And I had a new (to me cheese) the other day - Yorkshire Blue. I
suppose Fenny and Min will claim they have been eating it for years!

So when does Lancashire get a blue cheese?
--
K Richard W
LSS super-numerary


Min Lacey

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Apr 6, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/6/99
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In article <7ebaov$fe5$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, aitc...@my-dejanews.com

used the electronic medium to say....
>steve rarebittenand rabid BHS

>I cannot allow this b******s^w rubbish to be posted on umra - pistols at
>dawn?
>--
>MinWarof the Roses
>Hi,Min
>Cheese balls at 20 paces,I'll bring my troll and we'll have a buffet...how's
>Pitville?
>
>Steve Mahon Curado BHS
Has that .sig got anything to do with Pogue Mahon?????
And I sniff at your cheese balls....
--
Min
Had a bad day today?
Remember, it takes 47 muscles to frown
And only 4 to pull the trigger of a sniper rifle....

Min Lacey

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Apr 6, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/6/99
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In article <7ebbod$gaa$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, aitc...@my-dejanews.com

used the electronic medium to say....
>Min Lacey <M...@mygaff0.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>I cannot allow this b******s^w rubbish to be posted on umra - pistols at
>>dawn?
>
>Sorry but unless you mean water pistols the government made them
>illegal last September - I'll have to place you under (virtual) arrest
>just for suggesting it ;-)
>
>'S'ok ,Min...come over to my place,and we can shoot each other in the
>sunshine...
>Steve say squeeze BHS
Now, that's a *much* better offer

Kate Brown

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Apr 6, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/6/99
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In article <hB$ckXADv...@leton.demon.co.uk>, dated Mon, 5 Apr 1999,

George Middleton <Mi...@leton.demon.co.uk> wrote
>SimGardner wrote:
>>>I'd give anything for half a pound of Lymeswold.
>>
>>Wouldn't you need a time machine - do they make it any more?
>
>Gosh! I counted it in and I've counted it out again.
>(has it really gone?)
>
>I remember it starting because its made-up name was similar to Wymeswold
>which is where I served in the RAF.

I'm afraid it was known as Slymesmold in our house. And as for blue
cheese, I'm very partial to a crumb of Blue Vinny.

--
Kate B

London

Mike Ellwood

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Apr 6, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/6/99
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Heather Knowles (heaven...@fanged.demon.co.uk) wrote:

: My father always told me that a kiss without a beard was like an egg
: without salt, but as he was clean-shaven, I *really* didn't like to ask
: how he knew......

There is also: 'an apple without cheese is like a kiss without a squeeze"
--
Mike.E...@rl.ac.uk

Mike McMillan

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Apr 6, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/6/99
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In article <923349448.6665.2...@news.demon.co.uk>, John Ross
<URL:mailto:j...@jross.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> And one really late arrival. Will you welcome, please, Mr and Mrs
> Bennettdidthatloteatallthefoodbeforewegothere. They have their son
> with them, but his name escapes me for the moment ...
>

Allan perhaps?

Toodle Wolf,

Mike

--
Mike McMillan
Did you expect to find an amusing sig. line here?.. You Did?.. What a Shame!
Tel: 0118 9265450, Fax: 0118 9668167. http://www.mikesounds.demon.co.uk/


Charles F Hankel

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Apr 6, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/6/99
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I say, chaps, I just heard that nice Liz Blades say:

> Fenny <yorks...@pop.net.ntl.com> wrote:
>
> >I always found kissing persons with beards to be highly enjoyable :-)
>

> So do I.

Nugger.

<tosses razor into wheelie bin>


--

Charles F Hankel
--------------------------------------
Given up stripping for a healthier way
of passing time during the Easter hols

Charles F Hankel

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Apr 6, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/6/99
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I say, chaps, I just heard that nice Steph Johnson say:

> I have a problem with Helens comments. CMIIW but I thought they'd
> established that Tommy's pork and sausages were part of the Bridge
> Farm experience (hence all of the hassle over branding etc.) and _not_

> a separate business in its own right. If that is so then a) Tommy
> doesn't need to do the accounts, they are part of BF's responsibility
> ('though I accept that T may have to keep the relevant info for input
> to them) and b) surely BF as a whole (the farm, dairy, (extinct) shop
> etc.) is probably registered for VAT so T's "accounts" should be going
> into them already.

I think I just heard the sound of a nail being hit soundly on the head

Charles F Hankel

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Apr 6, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/6/99
to
I say, chaps, I just heard that nice Jane Vernon say:

> In article <qk3ueLALx$B3E...@mail0.demon.co.uk>, Min Lacey

> <M...@mygaff0.demon.co.uk> writes
> >In article <7e8r67$dds$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, aitc...@my-dejanews.com


> >used the electronic medium to say....

> >>I think you must be in error here,given that Wensleydale is simply a poor

> >>knock- off of Lancashire cheese,without which apple pie is like a kiss...and
> >>jolly nice too...but what about squeeze and biscuits,squeeze on
> >>toast,macaroni squeeze etc.,all of which are good ways of using Lancashire
> >>cheese. steve rarebittenand rabid BHS

> >I cannot allow this b******s^w rubbish to be posted on umra - pistols at
> >dawn?
>

> Allow me to be your second, Min. Anything in defence of Wensleydale

> cheese. And no other blue cheese comes anywhere near Blue Wensleydale,
> which after many years I can now once again buy here in Gloucestershire.

<red-rose on>
Defence of Wensleydale? What a load of old poppycock. Eny fule nose
that a half-decent Lancashire cheese outclasses even the so-called
best offerings from Wensleydale in all departments.

The only bad thing about Lancashire cheese is that I never get home
with the full pound of it that I purchese because of my taking too
many little nibbles from it en route.

Mike Ellwood

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Apr 6, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/6/99
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Jonathan Calder (Jonatha...@joncal.demon.co.uk) wrote:

: I am more worried about the current NATO press spokesman: a grown man who
: want to be called Jamie.


Is that the chap who sounds like a football manager?
I'm not sure which is worse; him or the usual chinless wonders.
--
Mike.E...@rl.ac.uk

Liz Blades

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Apr 6, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/6/99
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umr...@hankel.mersinet.co.uk (Charles F Hankel) wrote:

>I say, chaps, I just heard that nice Liz Blades say:

>> Fenny <yorks...@pop.net.ntl.com> wrote:
>>
>> >I always found kissing persons with beards to be highly enjoyable :-)
>>
>> So do I.

>Nugger.

><tosses razor into wheelie bin>

On Tue, 06 Apr 1999 18:09:17 GMT, you wrote:

>I say, chaps, I just heard that nice Liz Blades say:

>> Fenny <yorks...@pop.net.ntl.com> wrote:
>>
>> >I always found kissing persons with beards to be highly enjoyable :-)
>>
>> So do I.

>Nugger.

><tosses razor into wheelie bin>

In your dreams,Charles,in your dreams.

Nice to know someone has fantasies about me :-)

Cheers

Liz

Liz Blades
Proprietor of Blades Home Brewery
115 Market Street,Farnworth,Bolton,Lanc's
http://www.dmatters.co.uk/Blades/blades.html


Niles

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Apr 6, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/6/99
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Fenny <yorks...@pop.net.ntl.com> wrote:

>Heather Knowles wrote:
>
>> I've only experienced kissing a bearded man for two short periods of my
>> life, but I don't remember that it gave me chapped lips, so please stop
>> castigating yourself! :) (Unless you enjoy it, o'course.)

>I always found kissing persons with beards to be highly enjoyable :-)
>

Me too - but they have to be controlled beards - goatees.

Robin Fairbairns

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Apr 6, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/6/99
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Kate Brown <elv...@cockaigne.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>I'm afraid it was known as Slymesmold in our house.

i did a typesetting contract for the royal society, during the course
of which the only sample paper i ever had was about the behaviour of
a slime mould called dictyostelium discoideum.

odd things, slime moulds. i didn't really understand this paper at
all, for all that.

>And as for blue
>cheese, I'm very partial to a crumb of Blue Vinny.

do you have a source of it other than a wrap-it-tight-in-cellophane
supermarket one? i've only once ever had it proper, and liked it.
i've several times bought it from supermarkets and been disappointed.
--
Robin Fairbairns, Cambridge

Robin Fairbairns

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Apr 6, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/6/99
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Andrew Wineberg <A.Win...@BTINTERNET.COM> wrote:

> Jane Vernon <ja...@otbo.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>> Allow me to be your second, Min. Anything in defence of Wensleydale
>> cheese.
>
>Wensleydale? Oh yes, that's that cheese that's so similar to Cheshire
>that the choice as to which label is stuck on it is arbitrary.

poor young man ... obviously never buys cheese ... gets that rather
feeble simulacrum they sell in supermarkets.
--
Robin Fairbairns, Cambridge

Andrew Wineberg

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Apr 6, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/6/99
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In message <48EE2BA159%A.Win...@BTINTERNET.COM>
Andrew Wineberg <A.Win...@BTINTERNET.COM> wrote:

> Sausages do, in coming with all foodstuffs

Oops. I think that I must have had HTS on the brain: that should read
"in *common* with all foodstuffs..."

Charles F Hankel

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Apr 6, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/6/99
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I say, chaps, I just heard that nice Andrew Wineberg say:

> In message <gVh4mCA7...@otbo.demon.co.uk>


> Jane Vernon <ja...@otbo.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > Allow me to be your second, Min. Anything in defence of Wensleydale
> > cheese.
>
> Wensleydale? Oh yes, that's that cheese that's so similar to Cheshire
> that the choice as to which label is stuck on it is arbitrary.

As a resident Cestrian, I must also object about this comparison. For
instance, do you mean Red Cheshire or White Cheshire (no, not like
Russians)? How can you possibly compare the sharpness of a decent
Cheshire, regardless of colour, with the oester-pennine product.

Ah, ISTR you mentioned shopping at Tesco who do not seem to recognise
either of the Cheshire nor the Lancashire cheeses in their deli
displays IME but prefer to suffocate them in plastic in cold cabinets.

Indeed, I also recall Tesco having more versions of Brie on their deli
counters than of all types of proper British cheeses. It dismays me
that the customer base is not served the basic "English"[1] cheeses[2]
as marketed years ago under the motto "English cheeses pleases". Now
we have to have cheeses mixed with all sorts of fruit, nuts and even
other cheeses, just for them to get any sort of market while the
honest product is shoved into the background.

[1] I bet these adverts surprised Caerphilly residents.
[2] There were ISTR thirteen of these cheeses and my brain is being
racked as I try to recall them all.

<lurches forward wagging forefinger>
And another thing... why is it that the citizens of this country are
ecstatic in supporting the cheesemakers of France, Italy, wherever,
and yet so reluctant to support the genuine domestic product? You
don't find Swiss/French/etc households buying mounds of our cheeses in
the same way that the Brits buy theirs.

Maybe I'm lucky in having the wanderlust. I don't drink German beer
in the UK, I don't like it here. In Germany, however, I drink all
sorts of German beer. It just feels right there and inappropriate
over here. This goes for many other thing in and from many other
countries and enriches, for me, the experience of travel.

<style=Times-Letters-Page>
By jove, I managed quite few swerves there. Is this a record?

Robin Fairbairns

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Kate Brown <elv...@cockaigne.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>A Proper Cheese Shop - Neals Yard, for example. Or the market equivalent
>- I thought I remembered a serious cheese stall in the market in
>Cambridge?

but he has curious ideas about what constitutes good cheeses.

does the best double gloucester that money can buy, but i've never
seen a blue vinney on his stall.

actually, i visited his stall last saturday, and for the first time i
can remember (in nearly 35 years of visiting it) neither he nor any of
his family were in attendance. he's gone into partnership with a
younger man (about my age ;-)
--
Robin Fairbairns, Cambridge

Robin Fairbairns

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Niles <alex....@zetnet.co.uk> wrote:
>Fenny <yorks...@pop.net.ntl.com> wrote:
>>Heather Knowles wrote:
>>
>>> I've only experienced kissing a bearded man for two short periods of my
>>> life, but I don't remember that it gave me chapped lips, so please stop
>>> castigating yourself! :) (Unless you enjoy it, o'course.)
>
>>I always found kissing persons with beards to be highly enjoyable :-)
>
>Me too - but they have to be controlled beards - goatees.

oh dearie me, what is a bloke to do. i had beard every damned where
and cut a bit off, and that keith lucas complained of the feebleness
of my beard.

and _now_ niles tells me he wants me not merely to get rid of most of
it, but to convert the remnants into some strange configuration on the
face.

you ask a high price for your favours, young man.

too high, i fear. you're going to be disappointed, as far as i'm
concerned ;-}
--
Robin Fairbairns, Cambridge

Charles F Hankel

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I say, chaps, I just heard that nice Liz Blades say:

> umr...@hankel.mersinet.co.uk (Charles F Hankel) wrote:
>
> >I say, chaps, I just heard that nice Liz Blades say:
>
> >> Fenny <yorks...@pop.net.ntl.com> wrote:
> >>

> >> >I always found kissing persons with beards to be highly enjoyable :-)
> >>

> >> So do I.
>
> >Nugger.
>
> ><tosses razor into wheelie bin>
>
> On Tue, 06 Apr 1999 18:09:17 GMT, you wrote:
>
> >I say, chaps, I just heard that nice Liz Blades say:
>
> >> Fenny <yorks...@pop.net.ntl.com> wrote:
> >>

> >> >I always found kissing persons with beards to be highly enjoyable :-)
> >>

> >> So do I.
>
> >Nugger.
>
> ><tosses razor into wheelie bin>
>
> In your dreams,Charles,in your dreams.

Nugger...
<falls into wheelie bin in an effort to retrieve Mach 3 razor>



> Nice to know someone has fantasies about me :-)

Ohs h*t
<stares indecisively at retrieved razor>

Robin Fairbairns

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Charles F Hankel <umr...@hankel.mersinet.co.uk> wrote:
>[deduces, as i did, that ajw von ha7 is a supermarket `cheese' buyer]

>
>And another thing... why is it that the citizens of this country are
>ecstatic in supporting the cheesemakers of France, Italy, wherever,
>and yet so reluctant to support the genuine domestic product? You
>don't find Swiss/French/etc households buying mounds of our cheeses in
>the same way that the Brits buy theirs.

the discerning households of france usually welcome a stilton. it's
as difficult for them to get a decent stilton as it is for us to buy
one in a supermarket.

>Maybe I'm lucky in having the wanderlust. I don't drink German beer
>in the UK, I don't like it here. In Germany, however, I drink all
>sorts of German beer. It just feels right there and inappropriate
>over here. This goes for many other thing in and from many other
>countries and enriches, for me, the experience of travel.

indeed. mind you, i find it's usually as well to be aware where it's
a good idea to drink the beer, and where to drink the wine. i've not
been to many places that are capable of both very well -- australia is
one (provided you avoid the beers such as are advertised over here ...
as the australians do). the west coast of the usa is increasingly
another: some of the micro-breweries produce a very acceptable drink.
(but again you have to avoid the mass market gnat's piss).
--
Robin Fairbairns, Cambridge

Peter Hesketh

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In article <48EE2C3D50%A.Win...@BTINTERNET.COM>, Andrew Wineberg
<A.Win...@BTINTERNET.COM> writes

>In message <gVh4mCA7...@otbo.demon.co.uk>
> Jane Vernon <ja...@otbo.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Allow me to be your second, Min. Anything in defence of Wensleydale
>> cheese.
>
>Wensleydale? Oh yes, that's that cheese that's so similar to Cheshire
>that the choice as to which label is stuck on it is arbitrary.
>
Cough! Splutter! Lies! All lies!

Wensleydale is totally different from Cheshire. Wensleydale is white,
crumbly, and very slightly moist, whereas Cheshire is white, crumbly,
very slightly moist, and THE BEST CHEESE EVER MADE.
-
Regards - Peter Hesketh, Mynyddbach, Mon.
Forty reasons why a dog is better than a woman: number 37
"Dogs find you amusing when you're drunk."

Peter Hesketh

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In article <37127299...@news.mersinet.co.uk>, Charles F Hankel
<umr...@hankel.mersinet.co.uk> writes

>Maybe I'm lucky in having the wanderlust. I don't drink German beer
>in the UK, I don't like it here. In Germany, however, I drink all
>sorts of German beer. It just feels right there and inappropriate
>over here. This goes for many other thing in and from many other
>countries and enriches, for me, the experience of travel.

Hear, Hear. When in Rome, get pissed as the Romans do.

Here in Mynyddbach, I buy double Gloucester, Caerfili and local Cheddar.
They are all better than locally-purchased Cheshire.

But whenever I return to God's Own County I call in at Williams of
Holmes Chapel and buy a pound of Farmhouse Cheshire cheese - 'tis
ambrosia.

In Wales I drink beer. In the south of France I drink wine. Copy local
tastes. They know what they're doing.
--

Peter Hesketh

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In article <370b3c6...@news.mersinet.co.uk>, Charles F Hankel
<umr...@hankel.mersinet.co.uk> writes

><red-rose on>


>Defence of Wensleydale? What a load of old poppycock. Eny fule nose
>that a half-decent Lancashire cheese outclasses even the so-called
>best offerings from Wensleydale in all departments.
>
>The only bad thing about Lancashire cheese is that I never get home
>with the full pound of it that I purchese because of my taking too
>many little nibbles from it en route.

If we weren't back-to-back fighting those wimpish palerose-faces I would
challenge your championship of Lancs Cheese.

On the other hand, Legh Toaster is not totally sans merit.

Katharine

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Niles wrote in message <370f0774...@news.zetnet.co.uk>...
>Peter Hesketh <p...@phesk.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>In article <371889fc...@news.zetnet.co.uk>, Niles
>><alex....@zetnet.co.uk> writes

>>>Heather Knowles <heaven...@fanged.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>My father always told me that a kiss without a beard was like an egg
>>>>without salt, but as he was clean-shaven, I *really* didn't like to ask
>>>>how he knew......
>>>
>>>;)
>>>
>>>My grandfather had a saying that ran "An apple pie without some cheese
>>>/ is like a kiss without a squeeze."
>>>
>>>We think this is American - he spent some time of his academic career
>>>there shortly after the end of WWII.
>>
>>My grandfather b 1877 used to say it, and he had never been to America.
>
>Well, that's nuggered that one then! Is it Zumerzet?

>
>--
> "[This] is what a young man ought to be. | Niles, Leominster
> Whatever be his persuits, his eagerness in | ICQ UIN 12724766
> them should know no moderation, and leave |
> him no sense of fatigue." Jane Austen | www.niles.zetnet.co.uk

Not as far as I know , but then we hardly count only being here eight years!
Regards, Katharine

Andrew Wineberg

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In message <7eb8li$2...@neon.airtime.co.uk>
bla...@airtime.co.uk (Liz Blades) wrote:

> Fenny <yorks...@pop.net.ntl.com> wrote:

> >I always found kissing persons with beards to be highly enjoyable :-)

> So do I.

I have a mild moustachio, if that is any use to you?

--
AJW in Stanmore, HA7.

Jenny M Benson

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In article <48EE2C3D50%A.Win...@BTINTERNET.COM>, Andrew Wineberg
<A.Win...@BTINTERNET.COM> writes
>AJW in Stanmore, HA7,
>running for bunker (locked) and then for wavy corn-field.

Only to find it's still only April so where next?
--
Jenny M Benson

K Richard W

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As ever I was enchanted by Robin Fairbairns, who had nothing better to
do on Mon, 5 Apr 1999 but add to village gossip with:

>In article <hB$ckXADv...@leton.demon.co.uk>,


>George Middleton <Mi...@leton.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>SimGardner wrote:
>>>>I'd give anything for half a pound of Lymeswold.
>>>
>>>Wouldn't you need a time machine - do they make it any more?
>>
>>Gosh! I counted it in and I've counted it out again.
>>(has it really gone?)
>

It really has gone. There are many other real cheeses out there which
deserve all of our support (and not all of them are french either)


--
K Richard W
LSS super-numerary


aitc...@my-dejanews.com

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> Allow me to be your second, Min. Anything in defence of Wensleydale
> cheese.

Wensleydale? Oh yes, that's that cheese that's so similar to Cheshire
that the choice as to which label is stuck on it is arbitrary.

<goldwyn> Who is dis guy Wineberg? I love dis guy <goldwyn>

Steve just got back from a Consell Insular freebie at a restaurant called La
Vaca Argentina ( The Argentine cow)..we're vegetarians...wonderful grilled
cheese...can't sleep...dunno why..BHS...the rioja was veeeery good though...

-----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----------
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aitc...@my-dejanews.com

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>Cheese balls at 20 paces,I'll bring my troll and we'll have a buffet...how's
>Pitville?
>
>Steve Mahon Curado BHS
Has that .sig got anything to do with Pogue Mahon?????
And I sniff at your cheese balls....

<J.P. Donleavy on>Lucky you... for they t(w)oo were made in Lancashire
<J.P.Donleavy off> ;-)))

But serially...no,.. Mahon is a local Balearic cheese,matured for about 3
months,hence the "curado" bit and is pleasant enough,and which reminds me,I've
got a one kilo lump of excellent Companatge goat cheese lurking in my bag
somewhere...the last day of the Feria,and it was going "Cheep"...this might be
a better joke if I were in the Canaries.
Steve from age? BHS

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> >>I think you must be in error here,given that Wensleydale is simply a poor
> >>knock- off of Lancashire cheese,without which apple pie is like a kiss...and
> >>jolly nice too...but what about squeeze and biscuits,squeeze on
> >>toast,macaroni squeeze etc.,all of which are good ways of using Lancashire
> >>cheese. steve rarebittenand rabid BHS
> >I cannot allow this b******s^w rubbish to be posted on umra - pistols at
> >dawn?
>
> Allow me to be your second, Min. Anything in defence of Wensleydale
> cheese. And no other blue cheese comes anywhere near Blue Wensleydale,
> which after many years I can now once again buy here in Gloucestershire.

<red-rose on>


Defence of Wensleydale? What a load of old poppycock. Eny fule nose
that a half-decent Lancashire cheese outclasses even the so-called
best offerings from Wensleydale in all departments.

The only bad thing about Lancashire cheese is that I never get home
with the full pound of it that I purchese because of my taking too
many little nibbles from it en route.

Thank god you've arrived,Hankel,just in time,I thought I was a goner there for
a moment.
Did you see all those damn displaced Easterners snapping at my Bath Olivers?

Steve cheese n crackers got all muddy BHS

aitc...@my-dejanews.com

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Indeed, I also recall Tesco having more versions of Brie on their deli
counters than of all types of proper British cheeses.

Sidestepping the cheese war rhetoric for a millisecond...remeber when buying
a piece of Brie or evenmoreso, Camembert was an adventure in texture and
odour...and both were to be found in their natural ripe runny state rather
than the chilled chalky and pathetically rubbery condition bestowed upon them
by chill cabinets in supermarkets...it's not the same stuff at
atallatallatall izzit?ż Steve dreams of a rarebit fiend BHS

Kate Brown

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In article <7edsli$nsu$1...@pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk>, dated Tue, 6 Apr 1999,
Robin Fairbairns <r...@betsy.cl.cam.ac.uk> wrote

A Proper Cheese Shop - Neals Yard, for example. Or the market equivalent
- I thought I remembered a serious cheese stall in the market in
Cambridge?

--
Kate B

London

Robin Fairbairns

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Peter Hesketh <p...@phesk.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <48EE2C3D50%A.Win...@BTINTERNET.COM>, Andrew Wineberg
><A.Win...@BTINTERNET.COM> writes
>>In message <gVh4mCA7...@otbo.demon.co.uk>
>> Jane Vernon <ja...@otbo.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>> Allow me to be your second, Min. Anything in defence of Wensleydale
>>> cheese.
>>
>>Wensleydale? Oh yes, that's that cheese that's so similar to Cheshire
>>that the choice as to which label is stuck on it is arbitrary.
>
>Cough! Splutter! Lies! All lies!
>
>Wensleydale is totally different from Cheshire. Wensleydale is white,
>crumbly, and very slightly moist, whereas Cheshire is white, crumbly,
>very slightly moist, and THE BEST CHEESE EVER MADE.

ajw in ha7 has probably never encountered either with a consistency
other than that of putty with an attitude.

speaking as a native of none of the counties, i find a lot of pleasure
can be had from any of cheshire, lancashire or wensleydale. i do hope
we're not going, collectively, to fall out over a matter of
nationalism...
--
Robin Fairbairns, Cambridge

Charles F Hankel

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I say, chaps, I just heard that nice aitc...@my-dejanews.com say:

> Thank god you've arrived,Hankel,just in time,I thought I was a goner there for
> a moment.
> Did you see all those damn displaced Easterners snapping at my Bath Olivers?

Sorry about that, distracted elsewhere for short while on secret LSS
business. Oops, what a give away. Still, I know you won't tell
anyone. Frankly, I slightly more worried about Min sniffing at your
cheese balls.

Charles F Hankel

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I say, chaps, I just heard that nice Peter Hesketh say:

> In article <370b3c6...@news.mersinet.co.uk>, Charles F Hankel
> <umr...@hankel.mersinet.co.uk> writes
>

> ><red-rose on>
> >Defence of Wensleydale? What a load of old poppycock. Eny fule nose
> >that a half-decent Lancashire cheese outclasses even the so-called
> >best offerings from Wensleydale in all departments.
> >
> >The only bad thing about Lancashire cheese is that I never get home
> >with the full pound of it that I purchese because of my taking too
> >many little nibbles from it en route.
>

> If we weren't back-to-back fighting those wimpish palerose-faces I would
> challenge your championship of Lancs Cheese.
>
> On the other hand, Legh Toaster is not totally sans merit.

Born and bred Lancs until 7, raised Ches until 11 and now Ches living
for the past five years (albeit called Wirral), I have a split loyalty
and find that I like both. Cheshire was not my favourite as a young
person but then one's taste matures over the years.

Fortunately there are cheese sellers in Birkenhead market who offer a
good number of native cheeses in the approved manner and it's merely a
question of shopping around for the best deal of the day. No plastic,
either in payment or around the cheese. Life as it should be.

Alan Craig

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On Wed, 7 Apr 1999 00:33:08 +0100, Kate Brown
<elv...@cockaigne.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>In article <7edsli$nsu$1...@pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk>, dated Tue, 6 Apr 1999,
>Robin Fairbairns <r...@betsy.cl.cam.ac.uk> wrote

>>do you have a source of it other than a wrap-it-tight-in-cellophane


>>supermarket one? i've only once ever had it proper, and liked it.
>>i've several times bought it from supermarkets and been disappointed.
>
>
>A Proper Cheese Shop - Neals Yard, for example.

Neals Yard do (does?) mail order. If you're interested Robin (or
anyone else) I can give you the details.

Alan

Tim Hall

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On 5 Apr 1999 22:54:29 GMT, r...@betsy.cl.cam.ac.uk (Robin Fairbairns)
wrote:

>In article <hB$ckXADv...@leton.demon.co.uk>,
>George Middleton <Mi...@leton.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>SimGardner wrote:
>>>>I'd give anything for half a pound of Lymeswold.
>>>
>>>Wouldn't you need a time machine - do they make it any more?
>>
>>Gosh! I counted it in and I've counted it out again.
>>(has it really gone?)
>

>i have the impression that it flickers in and out of existence, like a
>virtual particle on the event horizon of the black hole of destiny.
>
>>I remember it starting because its made-up name was similar to Wymeswold
>>which is where I served in the RAF.
>
>i even bought some once. tasted like most other made-for-supermarket
>cheeses, to me.


When it first came out, Private Eye had an article "The answers to our
Christmas Quiz" which went something like:

Number 3, the odd one out is (c) Lymeswold because all the rest are
cheeses.

Tim>--

andy roberts

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umr...@hankel.mersinet.co.uk (Charles F Hankel) wrote in message
<37127299...@news.mersinet.co.uk> :

>And another thing... why is it that the citizens of this country are
>ecstatic in supporting the cheesemakers of France, Italy, wherever,
>and yet so reluctant to support the genuine domestic product? You
>don't find Swiss/French/etc households buying mounds of our cheeses in
>the same way that the Brits buy theirs.

When I visit a family in Nord pas de Calais , I always have to take a big
chunk of strong cheddar with me . They are enthusiastic about english-style
cheeses but can't buy them locally . The difference is perhaps that the
collective industries of France have fought to defend their domestic market
with government support, appellations , marketing co-ops etc. We just have
retail conglomerates and the remains of a hangup about British food left
over from the early post indusrialised era and the wartime blockades.
--
Andy R
Refusing to pay the Internet tax .

Min Lacey

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In article <$6dWyTAX...@studyroom.demon.co.uk>, K Richard W
<richard....@studyroom.demon.co.uk> used the electronic medium to
say....
>And I had a new (to me cheese) the other day - Yorkshire Blue. I
>suppose Fenny and Min will claim they have been eating it for years!
>
Not me - I'm afraid I never got the hang of blue cheese
>So when does Lancashire get a blue cheese?

--
Min
Had a bad day today?
Remember, it takes 47 muscles to frown
And only 4 to pull the trigger of a sniper rifle....

Min Lacey

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In article <48EE2C3D50%A.Win...@BTINTERNET.COM>, Andrew Wineberg
<A.Win...@BTINTERNET.COM> used the electronic medium to say....

>In message <gVh4mCA7...@otbo.demon.co.uk>
> Jane Vernon <ja...@otbo.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Allow me to be your second, Min. Anything in defence of Wensleydale
>> cheese.
>
>Wensleydale? Oh yes, that's that cheese that's so similar to Cheshire
>that the choice as to which label is stuck on it is arbitrary.
>
I can see that corn moving, Andrew (unslings sniper rifle from
shoulder...)

aitc...@my-dejanews.com

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>>do you have a source of it other than a wrap-it-tight-in-cellophane
>>supermarket one? i've only once ever had it proper, and liked it.
>>i've several times bought it from supermarkets and been disappointed.
>
>
>A Proper Cheese Shop - Neals Yard, for example.

Neals Yard do (does?) mail order. If you're interested Robin (or
anyone else) I can give you the details.

Paxton and Whitfield,Jermyn St.Nodnol do mail order I think,but not to Spain
unfortunately..they also used to have a Cheese Society (!),which would send a
selection of 4 or 5 different cheeses to you every month according to
season,for a fixed monthly payment..together with a very interesting
explanatory leaflet on each of the month's selections.They also boast that
they will source any British cheese for you,so the Blue Vinny seekers might
try that route...they don't use plastic wrappping or vacuum sealing
either,but good old fashioned wax paper. Steve my whey BHS

Andrew Wineberg

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In message <7eeuf6$p28$1...@pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk>
r...@betsy.cl.cam.ac.uk (Robin Fairbairns) wrote:

> Peter Hesketh <p...@phesk.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> >Wensleydale is totally different from Cheshire. Wensleydale is white,
> >crumbly, and very slightly moist, whereas Cheshire is white, crumbly,
> >very slightly moist, and THE BEST CHEESE EVER MADE.

It happens to be my regular, but I daresay that many of you would not
count the stuff I eat as being real cheese.

> ajw in ha7 has probably never encountered either with a consistency
> other than that of putty with an attitude.

Not true! The Cheshire cheese which I eat from Tesco is made by Joseph
Something-or-other at Whats-it-called farm and has a moist, crumbly
texture. I know 'cos it says so on the label. IIRC the Wensleydale is,
by some strange coincidence, made on the same farm, looks identical and
tastes very similar.

> speaking as a native of none of the counties, i find a lot of pleasure
> can be had from any of cheshire, lancashire or wensleydale.

I've never had the pleasure of one of Cheshire, Lancashire or
Wensleydale but i have sampled their cheesey namesakes.

Penny Mayes

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Andrew Wineberg wrote in message
<48EEB3207F%A.Win...@BTINTERNET.COM>...

>In message <7eb8li$2...@neon.airtime.co.uk>
> bla...@airtime.co.uk (Liz Blades) wrote:
>
>> Fenny <yorks...@pop.net.ntl.com> wrote:
>
>> >I always found kissing persons with beards to be highly enjoyable
:-)
>
>> So do I.
>
>I have a mild moustachio, if that is any use to you?

Think you can get ointment for that Andrew ;)

Penny remove the usual to reply
How dogs are better than men #7
The worst social disease you can get from dogs is fleas.


Henry Bloomfield

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Apr 7, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/7/99
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In article <7eak8k$a2f$3...@epos.tesco.net>,
"Siderius Nuncius" <siderius...@tesco.net> wrote:
>
> SimGardner wrote in message
> <19990405083201...@ngol05.aol.com>...
> >Announcing the late arrivals at the legal ball: "Will you welcome, please,
> Mr
> >and Mrs
> >Jove-Justice and their lovely daughter Miss Carrie"
>
> Nonononononono! It was bad enough when Niles started that "I went to...."
> stuff, and I am NOT going to get involved in another....er....
>
> Will you welcome please,
> Mr and Mrs Injustice, and their daughter Anna Pauline Injustice.
>
> Mr and Mrs Ischarlie-Dimmock, and their son Hugh. (Guests of Mr. R.
> Fairbairns)
>
> Mr and Mrs Fitter-Clergy, and their son Benny.
>
> Mr and Mrs Forethought and their daughter Melissa
>
> Oh dear. I have a very bad feeling about this.

As well you should. Will you please welcome...

Mr and Mrs Ningall and Mr and Mrs Rollcar and their WPC daughters Eve and
Pat...

Mr and Mrs Kingenquiries and their daughter May...

Henry Bloomfield
pots.webjump.com/Bloomfield.html

Charles F Hankel

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Apr 7, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/7/99
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I say, chaps, I just heard that nice Andrew Wineberg say:

> AJW in Stanmore, HA7,
> running for bunker (locked)

Oops, sorry about that, Heather and I have been a bit busy of late.

Liz Blades

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Apr 7, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/7/99
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Andrew Wineberg <A.Win...@BTINTERNET.COM> wrote:

>In message <7eb8li$2...@neon.airtime.co.uk>
> bla...@airtime.co.uk (Liz Blades) wrote:

>> Fenny <yorks...@pop.net.ntl.com> wrote:

>> >I always found kissing persons with beards to be highly enjoyable :-)

>> So do I.

'Scuse me ,but it was me wot wrote that last remark.

>I have a mild moustachio, if that is any use to you?

No,sorry, I like the full grown beard jobby.Tickles wonderfully well.

Liz

Charles F Hankel

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Apr 7, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/7/99
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I say, chaps, I just heard that nice Henry Bloomfield say:

>
> Mr and Mrs Kingenquiries and their daughter May...

Mr and Mrs Uxbridge and their son Master Leif...

Andrew Wineberg

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Apr 7, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/7/99
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In message <1nJJIMAi...@west-runton.demon.co.uk>

Jenny M Benson <jen...@west-runton.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> In article <48EE2C3D50%A.Win...@BTINTERNET.COM>, Andrew Wineberg

> <A.Win...@BTINTERNET.COM> writes
> >AJW in Stanmore, HA7,


> >running for bunker (locked) and then for wavy corn-field.

> Only to find it's still only April so where next?

Where next? What does it matter now that min has found me and is chasing
me with her rifle cocked?

Andrew Wineberg

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Apr 7, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/7/99
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In message <5RB6zKAc...@mail0.demon.co.uk>
Min Lacey <M...@mygaff0.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> I can see that corn moving, Andrew (unslings sniper rifle from
> shoulder...)

Ha-ha! You fell for my little diversionary tactic. You know, the good
thing about it only requiring four muscles to pull the trigger of a
sniper rifle is that I only have to incapacitate four muscles of my
attacker.

Don't worry, Min --- the effects will soon wear off, but the chains
remain in place until you tell me *everything* I want to know. If not...
then it's the Comfy Chair for you. <evil laugh>

--
AJW in Stanmore, HA7.

Sue Mitchell

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Apr 7, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/7/99
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In article <gVh4mCA7...@otbo.demon.co.uk>, Jane Vernon
<ja...@otbo.demon.co.uk> writes

>>>I think you must be in error here,given that Wensleydale is simply a poor
>>>knock- off of Lancashire cheese,without which apple pie is like a kiss...and
>>>jolly nice too...but what about squeeze and biscuits,squeeze on
>>>toast,macaroni squeeze etc.,all of which are good ways of using Lancashire
>>>cheese. steve rarebittenand rabid BHS
>>I cannot allow this b******s^w rubbish to be posted on umra - pistols at
>>dawn?
>
>Allow me to be your second, Min.
And may I be your third? :)

> Anything in defence of Wensleydale
>cheese.
>And no other blue cheese comes anywhere near Blue Wensleydale,
>which after many years I can now once again buy here in Gloucestershire.

Sue - Y.F.F.*

*Yorkshire Freedom Fighter :D

Fortunately, I have also tried Samsoe cheese in the past, so no, it was
not a guess Jeremy!
--

__ __
{{{{\ /}}}} Sue Mitchell
{{::\ V /::}} s...@imps.demon.co.uk
>--->8<---<
{:.;/ 0 \;.:} "My soul is painted like the wings of butterflies"
~~ ~~ - B.H.M.

John Ross

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Apr 8, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/8/99
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Andrew Wineberg wrote in message
<48EEB3207F%A.Win...@BTINTERNET.COM>...
>In message <7eb8li$2...@neon.airtime.co.uk>
> bla...@airtime.co.uk (Liz Blades) wrote:
>
>> Fenny <yorks...@pop.net.ntl.com> wrote:
>
>> >I always found kissing persons with beards to be highly enjoyable
:-)
>
>> So do I.
>
>I have a mild moustachio, if that is any use to you?

Is it detachable?

--
John Ross
Southampton


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