jack's mind
torquil fronde
Robin Fairbairns
In article <35631FF6...@globalnet.co.uk>,
torquil fronde <rhil...@globalnet.co.uk> wrote:
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>I used to know a schizophrenic who sounded exactly like Jack. Jack's
>mental processes remind me of him as well. I wonder if they could be
>related?
i know a lot of people who suffer from schizophrenia. some of them i
know pretty well, and not one of them has ever called jack to my mind.
jack's a bit of a bumbler, maybe, but he doesn't suffer from
schizophrenia (unlike the poor ex-soldier i watched in mrs. dalloway
last night).
--
I live in the crowd of jollity, not so much to enjoy company as to shun
myself. -- Samuel Johnson
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Niles
hen...@tibco.com wrote:
~
~It's nice that the text of this message got duplicated. Almost as if it
were
~written by two different personalities...
Well, and we all know that 4 out of 3 schizophrenics work for the BBC. You
must have heard them in the canteen: I'll have what I'm having.
I used to schizophrenic myself, but they cured me. Where am I now when I
need me?
Seriously, my doctor once told me that I was psychic, paranoid *and*
schizophrenic. Well, he didn't actually come out and say it, but we all knew
he was thinking it.
--
Niles * Archers' Family Tree at:- *
"The man ain't got no kulcha" www.users.zetnet.co.uk/alexf/
Glynn & Kathy Greenwood
In article <3568a7f9...@news.zetnet.co.uk>,
Niles <alex....@zetnet.co.uk> wrote:
<very unfunny stuff snipped>
A good friend of mine suffers from schizophrenia. It is not funny.
--
Glynn Greenwood - Proud to be English.
Simon Townley
In article <484a612...@argonet.co.uk>, Glynn & Kathy Greenwood
<gw...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <3568a7f9...@news.zetnet.co.uk>,
> Niles <alex....@zetnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
> <very unfunny stuff snipped>
>
> A good friend of mine suffers from schizophrenia. It is not funny.
Schizophrenia is not funny. And no-one wishes to upset or offend you or
your friend. But Niles' post made me laugh. AIDS is not funny, Alzheimer's
is not funny. Being Jewish/Irish/Polish (etc.) is not funny. There is
nothing amusing about the perceived differences between the sexes, or
about persons of different sexual orientation from our own. There was
nothing particularly funny about the death of DiPow, or the arrest of Mr
Michael (what's white and slides down a tile? George Michael's latest
release), at least not for Mr Michael. But all these have given rise to
excellent jokes that make us laugh, despite the fact that we feel
'naughty', and in some ways guilty for laughing at them.
Sometimes the 'victims' of jokes have the best jokes about their own
situation. Think of the number of Jewish comedians who have specialised in
sending themselves up. My Grandmother had a wonderful Alzheimer's joke. It
was just a pity she could never remember the punchline.
--
Simon Townley
chris harrison
Glynn & Kathy Greenwood wrote:
>
> In article <3568a7f9...@news.zetnet.co.uk>,
> Niles <alex....@zetnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
> <very unfunny stuff snipped>
>
> A good friend of mine suffers from schizophrenia. It is not funny.
A good friend of mine suffers from being American. It isn't particularly
funny, but we laugh about that all the time.
You can find humour in something through making jokes without
necessarily being offensive to someone.
Niles
Glynn & Kathy Greenwood <gw...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
~
~A good friend of mine suffers from schizophrenia. It is not funny.
IMO the schizophrenia jokes are more on the misconception of what the illness
entails than the condition itself. YMMV. Prefer me to tell queer jokes?
Robin Fairbairns
In article <356ea3a6...@news.zetnet.co.uk>,
Niles <alex....@zetnet.co.uk> wrote:
>Glynn & Kathy Greenwood <gw...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
>~A good friend of mine suffers from schizophrenia. It is not funny.
>
>IMO the schizophrenia jokes are more on the misconception of what the illness
>entails than the condition itself. YMMV. Prefer me to tell queer jokes?
i'm pleased that glynn complained. not long back, you and i had an
exchange about queer-bashing in umra and you remarked that slapping
homophobes down is always done better by straight (i've never
understood that label) people.
i felt positively ill when i read your `jokes'. i do not myself
suffer from schizophrenia, but someone very near and dear to me does.
as you would have known if you had read my post at the beginning of
this thread, following up the fatuous suggestion that jack is
suffering from schizophrenia.
Robert Carnegie
In article <6kcn46$49v$1...@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk>, Robin Fairbairns
<r...@cl.cam.ac.uk> writes
>In article <356ea3a6...@news.zetnet.co.uk>,
>Niles <alex....@zetnet.co.uk> wrote:
>>Glynn & Kathy Greenwood <gw...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
>>~A good friend of mine suffers from schizophrenia. It is not funny.
>>
>>IMO the schizophrenia jokes are more on the misconception of what the
>illness
>>entails than the condition itself.
Both correct, although the singular posting from 'Glynn & Kathy'
raised a smile here.
This layman understands schizophrenia (arguably a label
misapplied to various different mental experiences) to be in fact
perceived by the sufferer as, usually, voices constantly making
unhelpful or even harmful comments and suggestions - a cross
between tinnitus and Jimmy Hill on Match of the Day.
Schizophrenia isn't where you think you're lots of different people:
that's Dissociative Identity Disorder (formerly called Multiple
Personality Disorder). Coincidentally, I've just been reading
Elayne Wechsler-Chaput's review of the adult comicbook one DID
sufferer, Madison Clell, is writing and self-publishing about her
own experiences - I suppose she's the writer, penciler, inker,
colourist...
As we seldom hear about DID outside bad films, novels and
jokes, where it's usually called 'schizophrenia', I presume that it's
quite rare.
> fatuous suggestion that jack is
>suffering from schizophrenia.
Well, there must be _some_ reason why Jack has no sense of
what a blithering idiot he often is. 'Torquil' (really?) claimed to
have been acquainted with a sufferer whom Jack reminded him of
- he said he 'sounded' like Jack - perhaps he would like to say
more about it.
The tabloid press at least recognises that schizophrenia is not the
multiple personality disorder I already mentioned - we are usually
told that a sufferer has 'heard voices' telling them to do something
disastrous. I admit I am out of my depth and I risk giving offence,
but Jack's problem as I see it is that he is told things offhand by
people he plays golf with or meets on business, and similarly
rushes off to act on them.
Of course, our friends in TA are at risk of sudden personality
changes with every new SW...
Re Jack's latest bee in the bonnet - recruitment practice - which
Caroline seems to have managed to avoid involvement in, good
for her, I would have liked to hear Susan tell him, "It's only a part-
time village shop job, and no one else wants it - how about it?"
Likewise, she should have told Brian, "I meant what I said before,
it's a rotten job and you're a lousy manager, but I need the money,
and as for leaving you in the lurch I gave you all the notice required
by law, which is exactly what you would have given me if the post
became redundant." I don't think she'd have been any worse off in
either case.
I suppose that the last time Susan worked in the shop was some
while before her brother Clive's joint armed raid on it - could Jack
perhaps be thinking of that traumatic event, maybe just
subconsciously (not schizophrenically, by the way)?
Worst case scenario - the unnamed woman from Darrington, who
as I understood it does have some kind of personal problem that
Janet was helping her with, quits as Brian's business units
cleaner and is hired by Jack for the shop job. Susan has to go
back to Brian _again_...
Robert Carnegie at home, rja.ca...@mailexcite.com at large
--
"Open all day during the Festive Season" - restaurant leaflet I received in
April
Robin Fairbairns
In article <93NERoAM...@redjac.demon.co.uk>,
Robert Carnegie <rja.ca...@mailexcite.com> wrote:
>This layman understands schizophrenia (arguably a label
>misapplied to various different mental experiences) to be in fact
>perceived by the sufferer as, usually, voices constantly making
>unhelpful or even harmful comments and suggestions - a cross
>between tinnitus and Jimmy Hill on Match of the Day.
voices are *one* symptom that troubles people who are diagnosed as
suffering from schizophrenia. very commonly, sufferers are observed
conducting heated conversations (apparently) with themselves.
there is a large catalogue of other psychotic effects, including
paranoia (which is a bugger to deal with), dementia and various
delusional states.
>Schizophrenia isn't where you think you're lots of different people:
>that's Dissociative Identity Disorder (formerly called Multiple
>Personality Disorder). Coincidentally, I've just been reading
>Elayne Wechsler-Chaput's review of the adult comicbook one DID
>sufferer, Madison Clell, is writing and self-publishing about her
>own experiences
(could you mail me a reference off-line, or something?)
>Well, there must be _some_ reason why Jack has no sense of
>what a blithering idiot he often is. 'Torquil' (really?) claimed to
>have been acquainted with a sufferer whom Jack reminded him of
>- he said he 'sounded' like Jack - perhaps he would like to say
>more about it.
jack is getting on. my grandmother used to behave somewhat like jack,
responding with verve to the latest fad (for example, being thoroughly
inconsistent about her own great-grandchildren). she wasn't mentally
ill, but i'll bet she would have been diagnosed as suffering from
dementia if she'd lived another few years (she was 7 months short of a
telegram from the queen when she died). i think jack is showing signs
of incipient dementia. dementia alone is *not* enough to diagnose
Chris McMillan
> In article <6kcn46$49v$1...@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk>, Robin Fairbairns
> <r...@cl.cam.ac.uk> writes
> Re Jack's latest bee in the bonnet - recruitment practice - which
> Caroline seems to have managed to avoid involvement in, good
> for her,
Didn't Jeck say to Beddy that Caroline was to be involved as well? Funny we
didn't hear of/about her?
Sincerely, Chris
--
Mrs. Chris McMillan. Tel. 0118 926 5450. e-mail:
ch...@mikesounds.demon.co.uk http://www.mikesounds.demon.co.uk/Family.htm
Robert Carnegie
In article <ant28222...@mikesounds.demon.co.uk>,
Chris McMillan <Ch...@mikesounds.demon.co.uk> writes
>In article <93NERoAM...@redjac.demon.co.uk>, Robert
>Carnegie
><URL:mailto:rja.ca...@mailexcite.com> wrote:
>
>> Re Jack's latest bee in the bonnet - recruitment practice - which
>> Caroline seems to have managed to avoid involvement in, good
>> for her,
>
>Didn't Jeck say to Beddy that Caroline was to be involved as well? Funny
>we
>didn't hear of/about her?
Susan and Betty had both been told that Caroline might be in on it,
from what they said at Neil's birthday do. Reading between the
lines, I presume that Caroline had enough sense to extricate
herself from an absurd interview which was, after all, nothing to do
with her job of running Jack's hotel.
Dozy
Robert Carnegie (rja.ca...@mailexcite.com) wrote:
: Schizophrenia isn't where you think you're lots of different people:
: that's Dissociative Identity Disorder (formerly called Multiple
: Personality Disorder).
: As we seldom hear about DID outside bad films, novels and
: jokes, where it's usually called 'schizophrenia', I presume that it's
: quite rare.
I'm not sure it is all that rare. I believe it is very common among those
who have suffered childhood sexual abuse, the number of whom is said to be
much greater than is generally thought. If I've got the right idea, it can
happen when the mind blocks off something that has happened, so there is a
part of the mind that doesn't continue to grow from whatever age the
person was when the event happened.
Rosie
--
I have never minded the walls of denominationalism, but I have always
objected to broken glass on top of the walls.
(Nick Mercer)
K Richard W
In article <$8nYHPAI...@redjac.demon.co.uk>, Robert Carnegie
<rja.ca...@mailexcite.com> writes
>Susan and Betty had both been told that Caroline might be in on it,
>from what they said at Neil's birthday do. Reading between the
>lines, I presume that Caroline had enough sense to extricate
>herself from an absurd interview which was, after all, nothing to do
>with her job of running Jack's hotel.
>
Is it just me or has Caroline been remarkably quiet recently?
As St S's best friend I would have thougt Caroline would be volunteering
for the odd session with Danul (and StS could have had a night out with
Alastair (sp?). One of the few Shula could trust I would have thought.
--
K Richard W
George Middleton
Robert Carnegie wrote:
>As we seldom hear about DID outside bad films, novels and
>jokes, where it's usually called 'schizophrenia', I presume that it's
>quite rare.
Ira Levin's book and Roman Polanski's film, "Rosemary's Baby" treat
paranoid schizophenia in a fully adult way. So adult in fact that nobody
understood and eventually the author and the director both gave up and
allowed the book/film to be described as being about devil worship in
New York.
The story is of course told entirely from Rosemary's perspective and
shows how terrifyingly real the delusions of schizophenia appear to the
sufferer.
--
George
Alan Craig
K Richard W wrote:
>
>
> Is it just me or has Caroline been remarkably quiet recently?
>
I was in a check-in queue at Newcastle airport about ten
days ago and the person in the next queue over (going to
the Channel islands, I think) had her suitcase labelled
`C.Bone'
Brenda Selwyn
>K Richard W <richard....@studyroom.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>Is it just me or has Caroline been remarkably quiet recently?
Your wish is the SWs command apparently.
(See next weeks Dramatis Personae when George posts it).
BTW, I recently spotted Mrs Pemerberton's alter ego Sara Coward
moonlighting in the BBC1 children's drama serial "The Demon
Headmaster".
Brenda
--
***************************************************************
Brenda M Selwyn
Rose Cottage, The Hook, Timsbury, Bath, Somerset BA3 1NE
bre...@matson.demon.co.uk
http://www.matson.demon.co.uk/brenda.htm
Robin Fairbairns
In article <3GVNGGA4...@studyroom.demon.co.uk>,
K Richard W <richard....@studyroom.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>Is it just me or has Caroline been remarkably quiet recently?
you, of course, have an excuse: caroline has been quiet, with no
excuse whatever.
>As St S's best friend I would have thougt Caroline would be volunteering
>for the odd session with Danul (and StS could have had a night out with
>Alastair (sp?). One of the few Shula could trust I would have thought.
one gets the distinct impression that sts is fed up with the mere idea
of alistair, and that his attentions are contributing to her increasing
neuroses about danul.
combine this with the increasingly silly thread about the pointless
world cup tickets (what idiot would believe that the grundys were
privy to corporate hospitality tickets? what idiot would not guess
what tickets they were?), and we have a scenario where alistair pays
ridiculously over the odds for tickets he doesn't want, gets told by
sts that he's got to be joking if he expects her to come to france
with him and soon after disappears from our fotwd after a parting
gesture of redonating the tickets to the grundy boys.
makes one sick...
Andrew Stevenson
Brenda Selwyn wrote in message
>>K Richard W wrote:
>
>>Is it just me or has Caroline been remarkably quiet recently?
>
>Your wish is the SWs command apparently.
>
>(See next weeks Dramatis Personae when George posts it).
Good heavens!
Whatever next?!!
Spoilers for the Dramatis Personae now!
:-)
--
Andrew
George Middleton
Andrew Stevenson wrote:
>Spoilers for the Dramatis Personae now!
Well, it made me dash out into the rain and buy the Radio Times. I had
completely forgotten my duties.
--
George
Andrew John Roberts
The message <6l0ief$r6d$1...@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk>
from r...@cl.cam.ac.uk (Robin Fairbairns) contains these words:
> one gets the distinct impression that sts is fed up with the mere idea
> of alistair, and that his attentions are contributing to her increasing
> neuroses about danul.
Yep, but she's thrilled to bits with the doctor.
>
> combine this with the increasingly silly thread about the pointless
> world cup tickets (what idiot would believe that the grundys were
Well yes, but the idea of Joe handing over the sealed envelope and
then scarpering made me laugh, I mean if you do that to your vet and
your doctor ( and your grandsons ) in a small village?
> privy to corporate hospitality tickets? what idiot would not guess
> what tickets they were?), and we have a scenario where alistair pays
> ridiculously over the odds for tickets he doesn't want, gets told by
> sts that he's got to be joking if he expects her to come to france
> with him and soon after disappears from our fotwd after a parting
Good riddance.
> gesture of redonating the tickets to the grundy boys.
> makes one sick...
On the other hand we *did* complain that there wasn't
enough comedy ...........
--
Andy R
Andrew John Roberts
The message <3GVNGGA4...@studyroom.demon.co.uk>
from K Richard W <richard....@studyroom.demon.co.uk>
contains these words:
> As St S's best friend I would have thougt Caroline would be volunteering
> for the odd session with Danul (and StS could have had a night out with
> Alastair (sp?). One of the few Shula could trust I would have thought.
Trustworthy maybe, but totally inexperienced with children. Shula does have
a brother though, so she could easily leave Daniel with ((David OR
Ruth) AND pip)
--
Andy R
Steve Holden
Brenda Selwyn wrote in message <3573c524....@news.demon.co.uk>...
>>K Richard W <richard....@studyroom.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>Is it just me or has Caroline been remarkably quiet recently?
>
>Your wish is the SWs command apparently.
>
>(See next weeks Dramatis Personae when George posts it).
The missus has cited Caroline as the obvious candidate for playing Lady
Chatterley/ hide the knackwurst with gamekeeper Greg...and on reflection she
may be right,remembering the episode longlong ago with the SAS man,who had
her creeping through the nocturnal undergrowth on many occasions IIRC.
Steve lewd
Charles Norrie
>
>I was in a check-in queue at Newcastle airport about ten
>days ago and the person in the next queue over (going to
>the Channel islands, I think) had her suitcase labelled
>`C.Bone'
Visiting Lillian no doubt. If so, why?
--
Charles Norrie (When replying please remove the double meat filling)
Brenda Selwyn
>r...@cl.cam.ac.uk (Robin Fairbairns) wrote:
>one gets the distinct impression that sts is fed up with the mere idea
>of alistair, and that his attentions are contributing to her increasing
>neuroses about danul.
>snip>
>and soon after disappears from our fotwd after a parting
>gesture of redonating the tickets to the grundy boys.
I agree The Saint and the Vet are probably about to split up, but that
doesn't mean that he's about to be written out. For a start, it could
just be a hiccup in their relationship - it was before my time but,
prior to their marriage, didn't her on-off relationship with Mark go
on for years? OTOH, Alistair could give StS up as a bad job and
settle down with his second choice, Caroline.
Brenda Selwyn
>r...@cl.cam.ac.uk (Robin Fairbairns) wrote:
>one gets the distinct impression that sts is fed up with the mere idea
>of alistair, and that his attentions are contributing to her increasing
>neuroses about danul.
Does anyone else think that Shula's attitude towards Daniel's illness
is unhealthy? I'm writing rather tentatively as there are others here
much more qualified to comment on this than I am, but ISTM that if one
has a child with a chronic illness, one cannot afford to allow that
illness to completely dominate one's life. At the moment Shula seems
able to think of nothing else, which seems to me like a recipe for a
nervous breakdown.
Robin Fairbairns
In article <3576f428...@news.demon.co.uk>,
Brenda Selwyn <bre...@matson.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>r...@cl.cam.ac.uk (Robin Fairbairns) wrote:
>>one gets the distinct impression that sts is fed up with the mere idea
>>of alistair, and that his attentions are contributing to her increasing
>>neuroses about danul.
>
>doesn't mean that he's about to be written out. For a start, it could
>just be a hiccup in their relationship - it was before my time but,
>prior to their marriage, didn't her on-off relationship with Mark go
>on for years? OTOH, Alistair could give StS up as a bad job and
>settle down with his second choice, Caroline.
when shula stood mark up first time, he disappeared (while regularly
featuring in reported speech), eventually getting a job in hong kong
(nod, nod, wink, wink). i wouldn't be surprised if the wonder-horse
vet disappeared for a fair while even if the beetle's long-term plan
is to have them cuddled up together.
Linda
In a moment of abandoned spontaneity, Linda was inspired - but this
isn't that moment:
>Does anyone else think that Shula's attitude towards Daniel's illness
>is unhealthy?
Yes.
>I'm writing rather tentatively
Shame on you :-)
> as there are others here
>much more qualified to comment on this than I am, but ISTM that if one
>has a child with a chronic illness, one cannot afford to allow that
>illness to completely dominate one's life.
But if you're a Saint?
> At the moment Shula seems
>able to think of nothing else, which seems to me like a recipe for a
>nervous breakdown.
Not *more* fun shurely
--
Linda
Charles F Hankel
Brenda Selwyn wrote:
>
> >r...@cl.cam.ac.uk (Robin Fairbairns) wrote:
>
> >one gets the distinct impression that sts is fed up with the mere idea
> >of alistair, and that his attentions are contributing to her increasing
> >neuroses about danul.
>
> much more qualified to comment on this than I am, but ISTM that if one
> has a child with a chronic illness, one cannot afford to allow that
> able to think of nothing else, which seems to me like a recipe for a
> nervous breakdown.
Or a boy with problems ahead. A good friend of mine came over to the UK
some years ago with her then young son. She wouldn't let him do
anything remotely hazardous, not even footie or rugger as he grew
older. She's always trying to protect him so that he doesn't get hurt
and he has led a pretty closeted life with his social skills being less
than well developed. He's a nice lad, and despite being six foot eight
is a good-looking lad as well. And she's still "protecting" him.
He puts up with it all but I'm sure that the situation will blow up when
he finally gets a girl (he's off to university this year but as they now
live in a small country, it isn't be far from from home), or a girl gets
him. I'm dreading what will happen between them. I have mentioned this
matter of being over-protective to her but she doesn't seem to think
that she is, and can rationally explain everything.
The problem behind it all is that his father was pretty violent to them
both, and that's why she pitched up at my place one day with the toddler
all those years ago.
--
Charles F Hankel
-------------------------------------
Hapless FAQer on the Wirral peninsula
Robert Carnegie
In article <CT468CCo...@geodeonssppaamm.demon.co.
uk>, Charles Norrie <Cha...@geodeon.demon.co.uk> writes
>>
>>I was in a check-in queue at Newcastle airport about ten
>>days ago and the person in the next queue over (going to
>>the Channel islands, I think) had her suitcase labelled
>>`C.Bone'
>
>Visiting Lillian no doubt. If so, why?
Is Duty Free a factor?
But I would have supposed that Guy 'Moneybags' Pemberton
would have ensured that all Cazza's luggage was monogrammed
'C Pemberton (Mrs)' for the honeymoon.
What a courtship that was. I wonder whether umrats compared
and contrasted Robin and Guy at the time -
"Your girlfriend's horse is stolen. Do you:
a) Offer a shoulder to cry on
b) Let your sons from your first marriage go looking for it
c) Buy her another one?"
Robert Carnegie
In article <199806021...@zetnet.co.uk>, Andrew John
Roberts <andy...@zetnet.co.uk> writes
>> combine this with the increasingly silly thread about the pointless
>> world cup tickets (what idiot would believe that the grundys were
You want jam on it, you do.
>Well yes, but the idea of Joe handing over the sealed envelope and
>then scarpering made me laugh, I mean if you do that to your vet and
>your doctor ( and your grandsons ) in a small village?
I predict a series of mysterious and suspiciously expert cattle
mutilations.
>> a parting gesture of redonating the tickets to the grundy boys.
Probably, yes. "Great, now we _can_ go to Japan v Jamaica after
all!"
But surely Clarrie would make Joe give the money back.
I'd prefer to see - well, hear - Clarrie cotton on just in time and
snatch the envelope from Joe's hand just before Alistair
grudgingly pays up - it would just serve the miserable old git right.
And I like Alistair.
Dozy
Robert Carnegie (rja.ca...@mailexcite.com) wrote:
: I'd prefer to see - well, hear - Clarrie cotton on just in time and
: snatch the envelope from Joe's hand just before Alistair
: grudgingly pays up - it would just serve the miserable old git right.
: And I like Alistair.
It's highly unlikely, but I would like to hear Clarrie receive a letter
from France, something along the lines of: "So sorry we sent you the wrong
tickets before. Here are the ones for the England-whoever game...."
Robin Fairbairns
In article <6l6h07$2uc$1...@sirius.dur.ac.uk>,
Dozy <R.A.Bu...@durham.ac.uk> wrote:
>Robert Carnegie (rja.ca...@mailexcite.com) wrote:
>: I'd prefer to see - well, hear - Clarrie cotton on just in time and
>: snatch the envelope from Joe's hand just before Alistair
>: grudgingly pays up - it would just serve the miserable old git right.
>: And I like Alistair.
>
>It's highly unlikely, but I would like to hear Clarrie receive a letter
>from France, something along the lines of: "So sorry we sent you the wrong
>tickets before. Here are the ones for the England-whoever game...."
rosie, that's brilliant, though hopefully not *too* brilliant for it
to have occurred to the sws.
i shall regard it as an official prediction, and shall strive for you
get kudos for it if you prove to be right.
Chris McMillan
In article <35774cd2...@news.demon.co.uk>, Brenda Selwyn
<URL:mailto:bre...@matson.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> >r...@cl.cam.ac.uk (Robin Fairbairns) wrote:
>
> >one gets the distinct impression that sts is fed up with the mere idea
> >of alistair, and that his attentions are contributing to her increasing
> >neuroses about danul.
>
> Does anyone else think that Shula's attitude towards Daniel's illness
> is unhealthy? I'm writing rather tentatively as there are others here
> much more qualified to comment on this than I am, but ISTM that if one
> has a child with a chronic illness, one cannot afford to allow that
> illness to completely dominate one's life. At the moment Shula seems
> able to think of nothing else, which seems to me like a recipe for a
> nervous breakdown.
>
life I think we're seeing St.S has trying to 'cope' as a 'one parent' person
- the arthritis is just the 'handle'. She's one sort of 'one parent', and
we're seeing her as 'sensible'/caring - she has to learn to cope with this
condition in her own way and in her own time and, of course, we don't know
what the outcome with Richard or Alastair will be: we saw Shaz as leaving
Koilie too much on her own (remember Kathy's comments about recognising a
'one parent' child?) and Kate will be another 'one parent' type. three
different ways of showing one parent people.
Niles
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