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LFS

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May 3, 2012, 3:24:45 AM5/3/12
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Catching up with episodes 3 and 4 last night, I was drifting off with
cats on my lap and vaguely admiring Charlotte's coat but then she
suddenly whipped off her blonde wig and I wondered what I'd missed. Why
the wig? She seemed to have long dark hair beneath it. She was wearing
wig (and coat) again when she appeared at the police station and said
she would pay the ransom.



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Laura
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Marjorie

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May 3, 2012, 3:30:28 AM5/3/12
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I don't think we've had a reason for that yet. I'm assuming it's
something we're supposed to take in and bear in mind for future epis.
But I may have missed the point.

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the Omrud

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May 3, 2012, 4:02:02 AM5/3/12
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On 03/05/2012 08:24, LFS wrote:
I didn't read anything into it - she's rich and fashionable. The wig
makes her look younger. I suspect that she took it off because she'd
just discovered that her husband had a mistress and his daughter knew
about her and was distressed, returning to her own self.

I have no memory at all of her coat. But I had been wondering about the
guns before Saga made it clear that they couldn't be armed in the
other's country. Where do they put their guns when they drive across
The Bridge? Do they lock them in their cars? Leave them at some secure
point on either side of the bridge? Deposit them at the police station?
Get half way across and realise that they haven't left them at home
and have to drive back?

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David

LFS

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May 3, 2012, 4:34:24 AM5/3/12
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On 03/05/2012 09:02, the Omrud wrote:
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>> Catching up with episodes 3 and 4 last night, I was drifting off with
>> cats on my lap and vaguely admiring Charlotte's coat but then she
>> suddenly whipped off her blonde wig and I wondered what I'd missed. Why
>> the wig? She seemed to have long dark hair beneath it. She was wearing
>> wig (and coat) again when she appeared at the police station and said
>> she would pay the ransom.
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> I didn't read anything into it - she's rich and fashionable. The wig
> makes her look younger. I suspect that she took it off because she'd
> just discovered that her husband had a mistress and his daughter knew
> about her and was distressed, returning to her own self.

Seems unlikely to me. I don't know many rich and fashionable women but I
doubt whether they would wear wigs in preference to having their hair
coloured and styled. But perhaps it's different in Scandinavia.

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> I have no memory at all of her coat. But I had been wondering about the
> guns before Saga made it clear that they couldn't be armed in the
> other's country. Where do they put their guns when they drive across The
> Bridge? Do they lock them in their cars? Leave them at some secure point
> on either side of the bridge? Deposit them at the police station? Get
> half way across and realise that they haven't left them at home and have
> to drive back?
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Does it apply both ways? If so, it seems an odd ruling. At a minimum, it
would be inconvenient and as we've seen it's dangerous. I wonder how
much cooperation there is between the two police forces in practice. I'm
making a list of queries for my upcoming trip to Denmark. My plan is to
engage in conversation the first good-looking policeman I encounter: as
well as a potential practical outcome, this will serve to embarrass
Daughter deeply, always a satisfactory experience.

Rosalind Mitchell

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May 3, 2012, 4:56:25 AM5/3/12
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On 2012-05-03, LFS <la...@DRAGONspira.fsbusiness.co.uk> wrote:
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>>> Catching up with episodes 3 and 4 last night, I was drifting off with
>>> cats on my lap and vaguely admiring Charlotte's coat but then she
>>> suddenly whipped off her blonde wig and I wondered what I'd missed. Why
>>> the wig? She seemed to have long dark hair beneath it. She was wearing
>>> wig (and coat) again when she appeared at the police station and said
>>> she would pay the ransom.
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>> I didn't read anything into it - she's rich and fashionable. The wig
>> makes her look younger. I suspect that she took it off because she'd
>> just discovered that her husband had a mistress and his daughter knew
>> about her and was distressed, returning to her own self.
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> Seems unlikely to me. I don't know many rich and fashionable women but I
> doubt whether they would wear wigs in preference to having their hair
> coloured and styled. But perhaps it's different in Scandinavia.
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You would know better than I do, Laura, but isn't that the practice
amongst orthodox Jewish women?

Roskj

LFS

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May 3, 2012, 5:19:47 AM5/3/12
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Indeed. You can read all about it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tzniut

But there is no reason to think that this is the case in this story.

BrritSki

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May 3, 2012, 5:40:05 AM5/3/12
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On 03/05/2012 10:34, LFS wrote:
> ... I'm
> making a list of queries for my upcoming trip to Denmark. My plan is to
> engage in conversation the first good-looking policeman I encounter: as
> well as a potential practical outcome, this will serve to embarrass
> Daughter deeply, always a satisfactory experience.
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:)

Jo Lonergan

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May 3, 2012, 7:35:06 AM5/3/12
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On Thu, 03 May 2012 09:34:24 +0100, LFS <la...@DRAGONspira.fsbusiness.co.uk>
wrote:
At the very beginning of The Killing when Lund was intending to leave for
Sweden, she was going to join the Swedish police immediately (rather to my
surprise), but told somebody that she would not be able to carry a gun. Of
course, we know she didn't like carrying one anyway. I think she said it was
because she wasn't a Swedish citizen. No info about the other way around,
though.

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Jo

badriya

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May 3, 2012, 8:08:55 AM5/3/12
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I've only watched 3 episodes but got a bit confused about the woman
whose husband had the heart transplant and then died after she worked
so hard to get him the heart and was told he wanted a divorce after
the operation. Did she kill him?

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Vicky

Liz3Turn

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May 3, 2012, 8:15:47 AM5/3/12
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Isn't that what a parent's role is - embarrass the children at every
opportunity.

LizJ

Liz3Turn

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May 3, 2012, 8:14:38 AM5/3/12
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I read some where that the practice of covering the hair was taken in
to Iran and it was there that the Muslim women started the cultural
practice of wearing the head scarf. I have also heard (can't remember
where) that the practice of covering the hair came about due to the
searing heat drying the hair and this was a way of protecting it from
the sun. But as usual, ICBAM.

LizJ

Chris J Dixon

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May 3, 2012, 9:08:48 AM5/3/12
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I don't believe so. What I guess we will discover is the full
extent of what she actually did to ensure that transplant went
ahead.

Chris
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ch...@cdixon.me.uk
Have dancing shoes, will ceilidh.

LFS

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May 3, 2012, 10:04:24 AM5/3/12
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Who knows? Perhaps her wig is a clue.

the Omrud

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May 3, 2012, 10:23:35 AM5/3/12
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I thought we'd seen that. She threatened the father of the donor, then
later she said that the boy had been on the donor register and so the
father's consent wasn't needed. My suspicion is that her dead husband
is of no importance in the story other than to set her up as a character.

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David

the Omrud

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May 3, 2012, 10:25:58 AM5/3/12
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That is what was said - that she couldn't be a full police officer with
gun-toting rights until she became a Swedish citizen. Until then she
would be a civilian adviser to the Swedish fuzz. Sounds sensible.

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David

the Omrud

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May 3, 2012, 10:34:04 AM5/3/12
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I would guess so. The individual would have to be licensed as a
civilian, following the local gun laws (less strict than the UK), but
she would also lose any powers of arrest, etc. A police officer in a
foreign country is just a tourist.

> I wonder how
> much cooperation there is between the two police forces in practice. I'm
> making a list of queries for my upcoming trip to Denmark. My plan is to
> engage in conversation the first good-looking policeman I encounter: as
> well as a potential practical outcome, this will serve to embarrass
> Daughter deeply, always a satisfactory experience.

Are Irish police allowed to stray across the border into the North,
carrying weapons. Very unlikely.

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David

badriya

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May 3, 2012, 1:04:29 PM5/3/12
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On Thu, 03 May 2012 15:23:35 +0100, the Omrud <usenet...@gmail.com>
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About the wig and her being Jewish, if religious enough to wear a wig
to conceal her hair surely she'd have been sitting shiva after the
death of her husband, BUT when her step-daughter went back into the
building where the body was she touched something on the door frame
that looked like a Mezuzah.

I.e a scroll of paper with the words from Deuteronomy 6:4-9 and ...
According to the Torah, there must be a mezuzah on the door post of
every door in a Jewish home. ... In cases where there is no such
place--such as in a door frame where the door ... This traditional
item, a scroll made of parchment paper.

And the building looked like the place in a Jewish cemetary where they
do the prayers during the funeral. And none of my family sat shiva
for those who died in the last years but they were buried in a Jewish
cemetary. We don't wear wigs though.

We knew Umbrella's wife was pregnant as soon as she was sick, didn't
we? How ironic. And do we think Stefan is Up To No Good? And what
about that bloke the girl is staying with? Learning difficulties?
Being used for something? And her mother and father are bastards.
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Vicky

Jo Lonergan

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May 3, 2012, 3:09:14 PM5/3/12
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On Thu, 03 May 2012 15:34:04 +0100, the Omrud <usenet...@gmail.com> wrote:

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>Are Irish police allowed to stray across the border into the North,
>carrying weapons. Very unlikely.

Swiss police are allowed to hotly pursue suspects across borders, I believe (in
the case of Basel the borders are extremely nearby). I don't suppose they
deposit their guns at the (mostly unmanned) border crossings as they go by,
though no doubt if they used them they'd have even more explaining to do than
they would have at home.

Ah, this appears not (yet) to be the case in NI
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-17677457

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Jo

LFS

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May 5, 2012, 1:37:39 AM5/5/12
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I didn't notice that but we bury people as soon as possible and we
certainly don't leave bodies for viewing like that.

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> I.e a scroll of paper with the words from Deuteronomy 6:4-9 and ...
> According to the Torah, there must be a mezuzah on the door post of
> every door in a Jewish home. ... In cases where there is no such
> place--such as in a door frame where the door ... This traditional
> item, a scroll made of parchment paper.
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> And the building looked like the place in a Jewish cemetary where they
> do the prayers during the funeral.

But those are only used for prayers, you won't find bodies or candles there.

And none of my family sat shiva
> for those who died in the last years but they were buried in a Jewish
> cemetary. We don't wear wigs though.
>
> We knew Umbrella's wife was pregnant as soon as she was sick, didn't
> we? How ironic. And do we think Stefan is Up To No Good? And what
> about that bloke the girl is staying with? Learning difficulties?

Whatever, that sword is certainly in dangerous hands.

> Being used for something? And her mother and father are bastards.


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badriya

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May 5, 2012, 4:09:43 AM5/5/12
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Oh. Yes I've never seen a body for viewing. Although I'm not sure how
long it was after. up to 3 days is ok?
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>> I.e a scroll of paper with the words from Deuteronomy 6:4-9 and ...
>> According to the Torah, there must be a mezuzah on the door post of
>> every door in a Jewish home. ... In cases where there is no such
>> place--such as in a door frame where the door ... This traditional
>> item, a scroll made of parchment paper.
>>
>> And the building looked like the place in a Jewish cemetary where they
>> do the prayers during the funeral.
>
>But those are only used for prayers, you won't find bodies or candles there.
>
>And none of my family sat shiva
>> for those who died in the last years but they were buried in a Jewish
>> cemetary. We don't wear wigs though.
>>
>> We knew Umbrella's wife was pregnant as soon as she was sick, didn't
>> we? How ironic. And do we think Stefan is Up To No Good? And what
>> about that bloke the girl is staying with? Learning difficulties?
>
>Whatever, that sword is certainly in dangerous hands.
>
>> Being used for something? And her mother and father are bastards.
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Vicky

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