Shula/Kenton
LM MCKEEVER
So we have at least one real life Kenton, but does anyone know a Shula?
Robin E J Stevens
Michael Hopkins wrote:
> OK, call me stupid, but why did Jill use the names Shula & Kenton ?
> Where did she find them ? What do they mean ?
There was a boy called Kenton at school with me at one point, so the name has
been used IRL. However, it may just have been that his parents were Archers
fans.
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Michael Hopkins (Michael...@durham.ac.uk) wrote:
: OK, call me stupid, but why did Jill use the names Shula & Kenton ?
: Where did she find them ? What do they mean ?
One of my friends from school has/had a dog called Shula.
Rosie B
Harry Andrews
Michael Hopkins <Michael...@durham.ac.uk> wrote:
>OK, call me stupid, but why did Jill use the names Shula & Kenton ?
>Where did she find them ? What do they mean ?
I went to (primary) school with a Kenton Chicken and a Simon
Chicken, and they were twins too. I reckon this is a bold/safe
combination St Jill would have been proud of.
Can't think of any Shulas though.
Harry Andrews
Tim Reid
In article <4nf4qc$i...@mercury.dur.ac.uk>,
Michael Hopkins <Michael...@durham.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>OK, call me stupid, but why did Jill use the names Shula & Kenton ?
>Where did she find them ? What do they mean ?
IIRC, Jill and Phil got the names by putting together alphabet bricks,
but I can't remember whether they just drew some at random or what. I'll
go away and find out.
(Maybe this ought to be a faq?! :-) )
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Michael Hopkins
Archers Addict (li...@reflect.demon.co.uk) wrote:
: Jill's choice of names (Shula and Kenton) was a minor scandal at the
: time. I was a mere child myself then and heard it as Chula which was
: even more avant garde on account of our living near a member of the Ty
: royal family, who was male and called Chula. FWIW a friend of my
: Mother's named her peke dog 'Chula' and I always thought that was a bit
: off.
Archers Addict
>call me stupid,
Oh all right, if you insist. You're stupid Mike. Better now?
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Alan Stewart
Michael Hopkins <Michael...@durham.ac.uk> wrote:
>OK, call me stupid, but why did Jill use the names Shula & Kenton ?
>Where did she find them ? What do they mean ?
As I recall, she supposedly made the names up. She wasn't too
imaginative with 'Kenton' though, was she, as it is a real (if
uncommon) name. 'Shula', though, seems to have been quite original.
(At this point I can hear Esther Rantzen saying, "Unless you know
different.")
What a pity Jill didn't continue in this fashion. Wouldn't David have
been much more interesting if his name had been Porden. Porden and
Ruth Archer. Hmmh.
And Elizabeth. She's not my idea of an Elizabeth. Why is Nigel the
only one who calls her Lizzie? (Brian is the only person who calls
Jennifer 'Jenny', which sounds more friendly to me. And, of course,
there's always Lyndy, as in 'Lindy Hop', the famous dance craze of the
20's (I think), named after Lindbergh the airman.)
Jill should have named her younger daughter Zalooza. Nigel and Zalooza
Pargetter. Zal for short. You can just hear Julia/Joan, can't you.
"And her name, my dear. Her poor mother was completely lacking in any
sense of dignity. No breeding, you see." So that's it then: Kenton and
Shula, Porden, and Zalooza.
And what do we have in the way of names for the young Ambridgians
nowadays? Daniel and Philippa (Pip - not a toodle in sight). How
ordinary, and how traditional, naming the children after a parent or
grandparent.
All right, fellow Umrabrigians (on the model of 'Cantabrigians' for
inhabitants of Cambridge), can't we have a competition to rename Danny
and Pippa (as they will no doubt be called as teenagers)? A special
prize of the total immersion game 'Ambridge' to the winner.
Of course, we could also rename those other villagers that haven't
already had that honour bestowed upon them (such as Piggy and Jeck),
couldn't we?
Alan Stewart
PS I've just been enjoying some of Lindt's delicious Excellence Milk
bar, Chloe. Just thought you'd like to know.
Sarah Hill
Brenda Selwyn (bre...@matson.demon.co.uk) wrote:
: >Harry Andrews <jp...@dial.pipex.com> wrote:
: >>OK, call me stupid, but why did Jill use the names Shula & Kenton ?
: >>Where did she find them ? What do they mean ?
: This topic has already been discussed here without satisfactory
: result. Perhaps better luck this time?
: >Can't think of any Shulas though.
: One thing that did happen the last time it was discussed was that
: someone (can't remember who) did some sort of Internet search (can't
: remember details either) for the name Shula and found a couple of
: people in Israel. Apparently it is short for a Hebrew name meaning,
: IIRC, "peace". Doubt if this is why Jill chose it though.
: Why don't people meeting Shula for the first time ever remark "Shula?
: What a lovely name. And so unusual..." This would provide a good
: opportunity for the LSW's to explain the name's origins.
But what if the name was choosen at random (a la the letter blocks), or
if the bit of paper that explains the resaon has been lost? Then we'll
never find out because the scriptwriters don't know. I think there is an
indian name very similar to Shula, I recall my mother mentioning at some
point. I'll aks her when she's back off holiday.
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Archers Addict
In article <4nhtse$i...@mercury.dur.ac.uk>, Michael Hopkins
<Michael...@durham.ac.uk> writes
>Oh all right, if you insist. You're stupid Mike. Better now?
>Kindly don't call me Mike
I wasn't being . . . (Confused) Oh no I get it - correction coming up.
You're stupid Michael. MMHAFAO :-)
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Brenda Selwyn
>Harry Andrews <jp...@dial.pipex.com> wrote:
>>OK, call me stupid, but why did Jill use the names Shula & Kenton ?
>>Where did she find them ? What do they mean ?
This topic has already been discussed here without satisfactory
result. Perhaps better luck this time?
>Can't think of any Shulas though.
One thing that did happen the last time it was discussed was that
someone (can't remember who) did some sort of Internet search (can't
remember details either) for the name Shula and found a couple of
people in Israel. Apparently it is short for a Hebrew name meaning,
IIRC, "peace". Doubt if this is why Jill chose it though.
Why don't people meeting Shula for the first time ever remark "Shula?
What a lovely name. And so unusual..." This would provide a good
opportunity for the LSW's to explain the name's origins.
Brenda
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Michael Hopkins
Archers Addict (li...@reflect.demon.co.uk) wrote:
: In article <4nf4qc$i...@mercury.dur.ac.uk>, Michael Hopkins
: <Michael...@durham.ac.uk> writes
: >call me stupid,
: Oh all right, if you insist. You're stupid Mike. Better now?
Timothy Lee
Michael Hopkins (Michael...@durham.ac.uk) wrote:
: Archers Addict (li...@reflect.demon.co.uk) wrote:
: : In article <4nf4qc$i...@mercury.dur.ac.uk>, Michael Hopkins
: : <Michael...@durham.ac.uk> writes
: : >call me stupid,
: : Oh all right, if you insist. You're stupid Mike. Better now?
Surely that is acceptable, or do you not like the contraction?
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SandyGor
In article <4ngm37$p...@dub-news-svc-6.compuserve.com>,
1000...@compuserve.com (Alan Stewart) writes:
>All right, fellow Umrabrigians (on the model of 'Cantabrigians' for
>inhabitants of Cambridge), can't we have a competition to rename Danny
>and Pippa (as they will no doubt be called as teenagers)? A special
>prize of the total immersion game 'Ambridge' to the winner.
>
>
Given that Daniel was a test tube baby prehaps Benjamin....I think it
means the son of my right arm?
Helen B
Anna
1000...@compuserve.com (Alan Stewart) says:
>
>Jill should have named her younger daughter Zalooza. Nigel and Zalooza
>Pargetter. Zal for short. You can just hear Julia/Joan, can't you.
>"And her name, my dear. Her poor mother was completely lacking in any
>sense of dignity. No breeding, you see." So that's it then: Kenton and
>Shula, Porden, and Zalooza.
>And what do we have in the way of names for the young Ambridgians
>nowadays? Daniel and Philippa (Pip - not a toodle in sight). How
>ordinary, and how traditional, naming the children after a parent or
>grandparent.
Where are all the Leafshines and Moonrockets, Ki-Anns, Li-Anns and
Si-Anns who are born everywhere else?
>All right, fellow Umrabrigians (on the model of 'Cantabrigians' for
>inhabitants of Cambridge), can't we have a competition to rename Danny
>and Pippa (as they will no doubt be called as teenagers)?
Not Dazza and Pazza?
>PS I've just been enjoying some of Lindt's delicious Excellence Milk
>bar, Chloe. Just thought you'd like to know.
And I'm off to Brussels on a chocolate-eating spree in July.
Cheers, Chris.
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>
>OK, call me stupid, but why did Jill use the names Shula & Kenton ?
>Where did she find them ? What do they mean ?
There is a reference to SHULAMITE in Brown's Dictionary of the Bible
which refers to Songs vi 13 and defines thus: a name given to the
church, to denote that she pertained to jerusalem; or was reconciled to
God, peacable in disposition, and made perfect through Jesus's
comeliness put upon her.
This may explain why she is also known as the saintly one. Slimon
obviously thought that she "might" but we were assured that she didn't.
David
The one with the beard, glasses and not IBM
Andrew Stevenson
Sarah Hill wrote:
> I think there is an indian name very similar to Shula
And the masculine version of it wouldn't be Shiv, would it????
Andrew
Ramanee Peiris
sh...@dmu.ac.uk (Sarah Hill) wrote:
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>
>But what if the name was choosen at random (a la the letter blocks), or
>if the bit of paper that explains the resaon has been lost? Then we'll
>never find out because the scriptwriters don't know. I think there is an
>indian name very similar to Shula, I recall my mother mentioning at some
>point. I'll aks her when she's back off holiday.
My sister's name is Shanthi, which means 'peace' and according
to a poster she got for Christmas, it derives from the Hebrew Shula.
(Our names come from Sri Lanka).
Ramanee
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University of Dundee
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Mike McMillan
In article <4nhuqt$l...@macondo.dmu.ac.uk>, Sarah Hill
<mailto:sh...@dmu.ac.uk> wrote:
> I think there is an
> indian name very similar to Shula, I recall my mother mentioning at some
> point. I'll aks her when she's back off holiday.
>
I'd rather you didn't Sarah, murder is not nice y'know, and anyway do let
her get over her holiday first!
Toodle Pip, (Positively 100% Beef Free!)
Mike
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Jonathan Conner
As I remember it [adjusts rug over knees in bathchair] Jill did use letter
blocks (or maybe Scrabble tiles, it *was* a long time ago) to get some
"different" names. The names Shula & Kenton were the result of several episodes.
Good thing she gave it up before David & Elizabeth arrived!
Yours anciently, Jonathan Conner.
(I really must edit/demolish this sig. block - it is still 'as received')
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> So we have at least one real life Kenton, but does anyone know a Shula?
Vicky Ayech
wrote:
>On Thursday, 16 May 1996 08:00:00 UTC+1, LM MCKEEVER wrote:
>> So we have at least one real life Kenton, but does anyone know a Shula?
>
>I'm a Kenton and I'm older than Kenton in the Archers....so....and we also have (had) a Schula and she was older than me.
Sally Thompson
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J. P. Gilliver (John)
both names _have_ been around longer than TA, though the earlier Shulas
might all be versions of Shulamite. (There are few enough of each that
it doesn't hit the limit, so you can just tick "Births" and enter the
forename with no surname.)
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J. P. Gilliver (John)
>Sally Thompson <sally.th...@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
[]
>>
>
>Gillivering is not dead yet then!
>
them elsewhere, they never got enough traction for me to feel justified
in sending my brother a virtual 4" в 6" card. (Not least because the -
less pleasant IMO - term "necroposting" already existed.)
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Mike
> On Sat, 20 Jun 2020 at 08:09:50, Mike <mke.mc...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>> Sally Thompson <sally.th...@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
> []
>>> That was a very long lurk, replying to a post from 1996!
>>>
>>
>> Gillivering is not dead yet then!
>>
> Sadly, when UMRA had invented the terms, and one or two even kindly used
> them elsewhere, they never got enough traction for me to feel justified
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