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Keith William Lucas

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Nov 11, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/11/97
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I raised the question of adding a code for sheep fanship to the Geek
code and it was suggested that I design it. How flattering! The
following is only a first draft and will have to be revised by someone
such as Chris (the Challenge). Anyway I submit my humble attempt to a
flock of my peers for comments.

Sh+++++ (Modesty forbids)
Sh++++ (There are no known members of this category.)
Sh+++ I am Mrs Sheep.
Sh++ I am very fond of/interested in sheep.
Sh+ I like sheep.
Sh0 I don't think about sheep from one day to the next.
Sh? What is a sheep?
Sh- I don't like sheep.
Sh-- I hate sheep.
(Currently no known members, previous members done away with by an
unknown hand.)
Sh* I am a sheep breeder.
Sh/ I am a sheepdog.
Sh= I am a sheep.
ShL I speak the sheep language.
Sh.. I use sheep manure on my garden.
Shzz I only think about sheep when I go to bed.
Shocker I am an Australian sheep farmer.
Sh! Be quiet!

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Dept. of Computer Science, UCW, | Tel: 01974-261516 (home)
Penglais, Aberystwyth SY23 3BZ, UK | Tel: 01970-622454 (work)

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Al Menzies

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Nov 11, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/11/97
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Keith William Lucas <k...@aber.ac.uk> wrote:
<snip>

>Sh.. I use sheep manure on my garden.

Shouldn't this one be Sh*t?

al

Charles Norrie

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Nov 12, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/12/97
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>ShL I speak the sheep language.
>Sh.. I use sheep manure on my garden.
>Shzz I only think about sheep when I go to bed.
>Shocker I am an Australian sheep farmer.
>Sh! Be quiet!
>
I won't say what 'I am a sheep information technologist' should be.
--
Charles Norrie (When replying please remove the double meat filling)

Keith William Lucas

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Nov 13, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/13/97
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Charles Norrie wrote:
>
> >ShL I speak the sheep language.
> >Sh.. I use sheep manure on my garden.
> >Shzz I only think about sheep when I go to bed.
> >Shocker I am an Australian sheep farmer.
> >Sh! Be quiet!
> >
> I won't say what 'I am a sheep information technologist' should be.
> --

Outstanding and I definitely think Chris should add ShIT to the sheep
code. On the other hand I think "I am a sheep agricultural guru might be
a bit rude.

Chris J Dixon

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Nov 13, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/13/97
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Keith William Lucas wrote:

>I raised the question of adding a code for sheep fanship to the Geek
>code

>Sh+ I like sheep.

ShSh the wellies come in handy

Chris
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Charles F Hankel

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Nov 14, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/14/97
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On Tue, 11 Nov 1997 13:31:39 +0000, Keith William Lucas
<k...@aber.ac.uk> dreamed up a literary gem, but posted this instead:

> I raised the question of adding a code for sheep fanship to the Geek

You omitted a few;

SH+++SH+++++ I am a Welshman
SH@ Oops!
SH&y Make mine a Shires!


Charles
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John Ross

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Nov 14, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/14/97
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Keith William Lucas wrote <34685E...@aber.ac.uk>:

> I raised the question of adding a code for sheep fanship to the Geek

> code and it was suggested that I design it. How flattering! The
> following is only a first draft and will have to be revised by someone
> such as Chris (the Challenge). Anyway I submit my humble attempt to a
> flock of my peers for comments.
>
> Sh+++++ (Modesty forbids)
> Sh++++ (There are no known members of this category.)

[Snip much else besides]

Keith omits one vital piece of code:

Sh:`) Sheep taste nice, I eat sheep.

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Southampton
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Peter Hesketh

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Nov 14, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/14/97
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In article <346bc4bc...@news.mistral.co.uk>, Charles F Hankel
<han...@mistral.co.uk> writes

>SH+++SH+++++ I am a Welshman

ROFL!
Kind Regards
Peter Hesketh, Mynyddbach, Monmouthshire, UK
"I don't make predictions. I never have and I never will." - Tony Blair

Mike McMillan

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Nov 15, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/15/97
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In article <19971114....@jross.demon.co.uk>, John Ross
<URL:mailto:jo...@jross.xdemon.xco.xuk> wrote:

> Keith omits one vital piece of code:
>
> Sh:`) Sheep taste nice, I eat sheep.
>

I'm sure he hadn't mint to though.

Toodle Pip,

Mike

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Mike McMillan

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Nov 16, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/16/97
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In article <19971115....@jross.demon.co.uk>, John Ross
<URL:mailto:jo...@jross.xdemon.xco.xuk> wrote:

>
> BTW, is it only my family which regards it as normal to have Yorkshire
> pudding with any roast meal?
>

Not at all! I regard Yorkshire pud as part of a roast; I know some do eat it
on its' own as a separate dish, but to me, YP is part of a roast meal. I
cannot say that I eat it with every roast meal but I would eat it with any
roast meal just the same.

BTW Mr. Teacher; shouldn't that be

. . . 'my family who regard it as . . . . ' please, Sir?

Toodle NitPick (I know you are only a teacher on weekdays between 09:00 and
14:30 or so!)

Chris McMillan

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Nov 16, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/16/97
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In article <19971115....@jross.demon.co.uk>, John Ross
<URL:mailto:jo...@jross.xdemon.xco.xuk> wrote:
> Mike McMillan wrote <ant15194...@mikesounds.demon.co.uk>:
>
> > In article <19971114....@jross.demon.co.uk>, John Ross

> > <URL:mailto:jo...@jross.xdemon.xco.xuk> wrote:
> >
> > > Keith omits one vital piece of code:
> > >
> > > Sh:`) Sheep taste nice, I eat sheep.
> > >
> >
> > I'm sure he hadn't mint to though.
>
> I knew I'd get roasted.

>
> BTW, is it only my family which regards it as normal to have Yorkshire
> pudding with any roast meal?
>
Well, if Hazel had her way we'd probably do so.

(I do now know that it is normal to have little Yorkshires as the first
course - with gravy - if you come from County Durham, though - one of the
first things I learnt as a school leaver).

Sincerely, Chris

--
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Steve Holden

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Nov 16, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/16/97
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John Ross wrote in message <19971115....@jross.demon.co.uk>...

>> In article <19971114....@jross.demon.co.uk>, John Ross
>> <URL:mailto:jo...@jross.xdemon.xco.xuk> wrote:
>>
>> > Keith omits one vital piece of code:
>> >
>
>BTW, is it only my family which regards it as normal to have Yorkshire
>pudding with any roast meal?

We have YP without meat accompaniment during the long winter months here
in sunny Ibifa.Also my Aunt used to take her YP with sugar and jam.

Steve the vegetarian.

Peter Hesketh

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Nov 17, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/17/97
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In article <19971116....@jross.demon.co.uk>, John Ross
<jo...@jross.xdemon.xco.xuk> writes
>While I'm hobby horsing around and avoiding marking, what really
>grates are sentences along the lines of: "Alf has asked Bill and I to ..."

That is not hobby-horsing. That is teaching our children to speak and
write properly. I recently interviewed 10 young people for the job of
Training Administrator. I always give interviewees a dictation test if
the job involves writing memos or letters, even if they have PhDs. The
dictation test checks that they can listen, spell and punctuate. The
short piece includes there and their; to, too and two; loads of
apostrophes and apostrophe traps (its etc.) and all the usual spelling
tests such as separate and occurrence. Only one applicant made no
mistakes. She had a BA in History. What happened to all those people
who could spell?

Now I'm on _my_ hobby-horse.

Simon Townley

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Nov 17, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/17/97
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In article <19971116....@jross.demon.co.uk>,
jo...@jross.xdemon.xco.xuk wrote:

> Mike McMillan wrote <ant16163...@mikesounds.demon.co.uk>:
>
> > In article <19971115....@jross.demon.co.uk>, John Ross
> > <URL:mailto:jo...@jross.xdemon.xco.xuk> wrote:
> > >
> > > BTW, is it only my family which regards it as normal [...]


> >
> > BTW Mr. Teacher; shouldn't that be
> >
> > . . . 'my family who regard it as . . . . ' please, Sir?
>

> Nope. It's the one family, regarded as a singular entity.

Correct, Mr. Ross. It's not only your family WHICH regards teachers as
vital to the future success of the nation. It is, however, only members of
your family WHO regard Yorkshire pud as in any way normal. The rest of us
view it, rightly, as an abomination.

--
Simon Townley
http://www.sudbury.demon.co.uk

Charles Norrie

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Nov 17, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/17/97
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In article <347054...@aber.ac.uk>, Keith William Lucas
<k...@aber.ac.uk> writes

>Charles F Hankel wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 11 Nov 1997 13:31:39 +0000, Keith William Lucas
>> <k...@aber.ac.uk> dreamed up a literary gem, but posted this instead:
>>
>> > I raised the question of adding a code for sheep fanship to the Geek
>>
>> You omitted a few;

>>
>> SH+++SH+++++ I am a Welshman
>
>You'll have to have another go at this one Charles. Sh+++ is Mrs Sheep
>and Sh+++++ myself, so it's all legitimate.
>
>> SH@ Oops!
>
>Brilliant.

>
>> SH&y Make mine a Shires!
>
>Good draft(!) but I suggest "I'd like a Shires, but I'm driving".
>>
SsssH! Ssssh! Ssssh! Please!

Time for this newsthread to become quiet?

APage54023

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Nov 17, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/17/97
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>Training Administrator. I always give interviewees a dictation test if
>the job involves writing memos or letters, even if they have PhDs. The
>dictation test checks that they can listen, spell and punctuate. The
>short piece includes there and their; to, too and two; loads of
>apostrophes and apostrophe traps (its etc.) and all the usual spelling
>tests such as separate and occurrence. Only one applicant made no
>mistakes. She had a BA in History. What happened to all those people
>who could spell?
>

What has happened to all those people who could read? We recently had a new
bulk milk tank installed with a touch pad for operating the cooling and
washing systems - on the wall was placed a chart with the instructions for the
tanker drivers. Time after time the various drivers have failed to operate
the systems correctly. One even managed to key in a new "unlock" code
accidentally rendering the whole tank inoperable til we found someone at the
manufacturers who knew the magic combination.

Alison Page
APage...@aol.com

Mike Ellwood

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Nov 17, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/17/97
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APage54023 (apage...@aol.com) wrote:
: >Training Administrator. I always give interviewees a dictation test if


Well even highly educated and apparently literate professional folk
can be pretty bone-headed about instructions, hence the old saying
"RTFM". (Read The Flippin' Manual).

However, there may be a deeper meaning, especially as it seems milk
storage systems are going all computerised: a reaction to all this
modernisation which they fear may eliminate their own job before too
long. Prove that it "doesn't work", so it has to be taken out and
replaced by the old system. One can see Bert doing this.

Alternatively still, perhaps it's not a very well designed system..?


--
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If you like TA, you clearly have good taste and an ear for longevity.
Have a look at: http://www.statusquo.co.uk/uktour97.htm

No connection with the above, except as an ever-youthful ( :^) ) fan.

Harry Powell

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Nov 18, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/18/97
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On 17 Nov 1997, Mike Ellwood wrote:

> Well even highly educated and apparently literate professional folk
> can be pretty bone-headed about instructions, hence the old saying
> "RTFM". (Read The Flippin' Manual).
>

I came across this recently. One of our Departmental Heads wanted to
create some web pages for our intranet, so I suggested that he read the
appropriate pages on "how to create your own web pages" on said intranet.
"Ooh, I can't be bothered to read that!" quoth he "Just tell me..."

Harry
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CB3 9DR. Telephone: +44 1223 333127 Fax: +44 1223 333160


Robin Fairbairns

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Nov 18, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/18/97
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In article <Pine.SUN.3.91.971118...@bootes.cus.cam.ac.uk>,

Harry Powell <hrp...@cus.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>On 17 Nov 1997, Mike Ellwood wrote:
>> Well even highly educated and apparently literate professional folk
>> can be pretty bone-headed about instructions, hence the old saying
>> "RTFM". (Read The Flippin' Manual).
>
>I came across this recently. One of our Departmental Heads wanted to
>create some web pages for our intranet, so I suggested that he read the
>appropriate pages on "how to create your own web pages" on said intranet.
>"Ooh, I can't be bothered to read that!" quoth he "Just tell me..."

Mike McM has commented about this sort of attitude. Scott Adams makes
a living out of it.

In the specific case of "set of instructions for operating milk tank",
I think it's a bit much to expect a driver (who's presumably short of
time) to read the whole damned manual: the design *ought* to include a
trivial sequence that the rushed user can use.
--
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U of Cambridge Computer Lab, Pembroke St, Cambridge CB2 3QG, UK
Home page: http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/users/rf/robin.html

John Ross

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Nov 20, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/20/97
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Simon Townley wrote <Simon-17119...@sudbury.demon.co.uk>:

> It is, however, only members of your family WHO regard Yorkshire pud
> as in any way normal. The rest of us view it, rightly, as an
> abomination.

Ah. The view from south of Watford. Clearly you have experienced
only ersatz Yorkshire pud.

J. P. Gilliver (John)

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Nov 29, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/29/97
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(Incidentally, the sheep code is looking good!)
In article <ant16181...@mikesounds.demon.co.uk>, Chris McMillan
<Ch...@mikesounds.demon.co.uk> writes

>In article <19971115....@jross.demon.co.uk>, John Ross
><URL:mailto:jo...@jross.xdemon.xco.xuk> wrote:
>> Mike McMillan wrote <ant15194...@mikesounds.demon.co.uk>:
[]

>> BTW, is it only my family which regards it as normal to have Yorkshire
>> pudding with any roast meal?

Well, I have always ignored any such traditional pairings - I don't
restrict mint sauce to lamb, cranberry to turkey, or any of those ...


>>
>Well, if Hazel had her way we'd probably do so.
>
>(I do now know that it is normal to have little Yorkshires as the first
>course - with gravy - if you come from County Durham, though - one of the
>first things I learnt as a school leaver).
>
>Sincerely, Chris
>

My mother has always alleged that the _origin_ of the YP-as-first-course
was to fill you up somewhat, so that you didn't need/want so much meat
in the later courses, the practice springing out of people who didn't
have a lot of meat. (She alleges something similar about pasta in
Italian food.) Of course, the YP (and pasta) has(ve) become an artform
in its/their own right. (I wasn't aware of it being _little_ YPs though;
I/m _pretty_ sure I've seen it be huge ones.)

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