Gas Plasma TV - Opinions Wanted
Alex Mitchell
honest I cant justify it just yet.
However, I am interested in your opinions. I have read the reviews for
Fujitsu and the latest phillips models. Am I right in thinking that the
former has dropped in price recently from Ł12K to Ł9k
Any thoughts on the quality of the image OR where to get them with a
discount.
Thanks
Alex
Richard Hopkins
>Any thoughts on the quality of the image OR where to get them with a
>discount.
Compared to a line doubled CRT FP system, which could typically be had for
the same sort of money, plasma displays are currently rather disappointing,
the ones I've seen to date (the Fujitsu included) lacking brightness and
contrast.
Unless you need the compactness 'hang on the wall' nature of this type of
display, your best bet at this stage would be one of the better rear
projection TV's, to give a similar sized picture for less money, or a good
CRT Fp, to give a much bigger and better picture for the same (or
thereabouts) money.
Richard Hopkins,
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G D FRASER
suffered from a very poor ability to hold black levels. Contrast was extremely
limited and for the money you could get vastly superior performance from crt
front projection systems. All be it with the need to turn the lights down.
The second generation displays are much superior. They have reduced in price as
you say and are probably now worth considering. I believe the BBC technical
boys have been working with Fujitsu to develop a digital tuner for these
displays and I have information froma source I would trust that the picture
quality achieved with this is staggering.
There are quite a few places in London where you can see one. Try
Martin-Kleiser in Chiswick High Rd. I believe they should now have asecond
generation one on display. Best to phone first though. 0181 400 555. Ask for
Steve Martin. He will be away at New Orleans this week for CEDIA EXPO 98 but he
is the guy to speak to.
All the best,
Gordon
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g.young
G D FRASER wrote in message
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>There are quite a few places in London where you can see one. Try
>Martin-Kleiser in Chiswick High Rd. I believe they should now have asecond
>generation one on display. Best to phone first though. 0181 400 555. Ask
for
>Steve Martin. He will be away at New Orleans this week for CEDIA EXPO 98
but he
>is the guy to speak to.
>
i have heard that some are rather noisy due to something like an internal
cooling fan and suffer from poor brightness.
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Jerome O'Donohoe
18:47:18 +0100, "g.young" <g.y...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>>
>i have heard that some are rather noisy due to something like an internal
>cooling fan and suffer from poor brightness.
We've had a,few in for tests as "client-impressing" 16:9
monitors...but to be honest, they're pants for the money. Bright,
detailed still-ish images look gorgeous from 20 feet away, but as soon
as you look closely, the contrast is for shit and if you see a fade to
black on one, you'll laugh your arse off- the monitor appears to do
three steps from full brightness to black, rather than a continuous
fade. The demo material I've seen does indeed have very bright
colours, no chroma noise etc., but then I don't suppose you'll be
using serial digital CCIR 601 interface from a £30,000 digital betacam
player. I've also seen one being fed by a DVD player, and those
srtefacts were just appalling...get yourself a Seleco or Vidikron
projector, nice screen and save five grand, and get a huge picture
into the bargain.
Richard Hopkins
Jerome O'Donohoe wrote in message <35f5bc04...@news.demon.co.uk>...
>...get yourself a Seleco or Vidikron projector, nice screen and save five
grand,
>and get a huge picture into the bargain.
Indeedy, and until that situation changes fundamentally, they're best looked
at as curiosities, or features in T3 magazine...
Richard Hopkins,
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Pete Silver
them for video conferencing. Although the picture quality is not brilliant
due to the cameras that they show, I saw them on display at the recent PLASA
show at Earls Court and the pictures look superb. I`d buy one today if I had
the money.
I a quiet room though you can hear the fans in them.
Pete
Alex Mitchell wrote in message <6sp7tp$ef2$1...@plug.news.pipex.net>...
>I would like to say I am in the market for a gas plasma screen.....but to
be
>honest I cant justify it just yet.
>
>However, I am interested in your opinions. I have read the reviews for
>Fujitsu and the latest phillips models. Am I right in thinking that the
>former has dropped in price recently from Ł12K to Ł9k
>
>Any thoughts on the quality of the image OR where to get them with a
>discount.
>
>Thanks
>
>Alex
>
>
Jay
skin) Plasma screens are dramtically improved.
A neat application I have seen was at Digital Picture and Sound in Los
Angeles who are a audio post house doing movies (Austin Powers, etc.)
and TV (Xena etc..).
They have a room where the desk is has normal faders and pots but the
control interface to Pro Tools is by 2 42inch lastest generation
Plasma screens with a touch screen overlay, all mounted flush with the
surface of the desk (just like Tron).
Worked well.
Lee Edward Armstrong
Alex Mitchell wrote:
> I would like to say I am in the market for a gas plasma screen.....but to be
> honest I cant justify it just yet.
>
> However, I am interested in your opinions. I have read the reviews for
> Fujitsu and the latest phillips models. Am I right in thinking that the
> former has dropped in price recently from £12K to £9k
>
> Any thoughts on the quality of the image OR where to get them with a
> discount.
Well the Sharsonic down Totenham Court Road has one of the flash met greenish
12K ones in store....Its well worth taking a look. Nice and slim, smart looker
too....didn't hear the sound, but the picture was OK...Nothing *that* fantastic
to be honest....personaly at the mo. they are more of a gimmic than anything
else.
Smart, but frankly, not worth it.
cya,
Lee
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Craig Lloyd
I was quite surprised when I went to the Houswares Interenational Fair at
the NEC as they had a Gas plasma 36" (or so) hanging from the ceiling as you
walk into the Halls Reception area... Cool, but completely wasted if you ask
me!
Craig.
Bob Tomalski
<yc...@dial.pipex.com> writes
>I would like to say I am in the market for a gas plasma screen.....but to be
>honest I cant justify it just yet.
>
>However, I am interested in your opinions. I have read the reviews for
>Fujitsu and the latest phillips models. Am I right in thinking that the
>
>Any thoughts on the quality of the image OR where to get them with a
>discount.
>
>
>Alex
>
>
As I write this I am just 50 ft from the Fujitsu booth at CEDIA Expo 98.
The latest mkII 42 inch Plasma set looks very very good indeed! At last
blacks are black, not a ruddy brown. Price - still a cool $12k
--
Bob Tomalski
Journalist & Broadcaster - London UK -
Adrian Bovis
BBCTV Centre. The quality of display is quite appalling (fine if you are so
short of space you don't mind a crap picture). I cannot imagine how bad the
picture would be if it were expanded to 40".
Adrian Bovis
Craig Lloyd wrote in message <6tb568$m75$1...@holly.csv.warwick.ac.uk>...
Paul Reading
(42") and the picture was very good, but there was no TV tuner included and
it did require fans to cool it, so there may be a service issue.
Last week one of the manufacturers announced a 50" plasma screen. Who was it
and has anyone seen it?
Bob Tomalski wrote in message ...
>In article <6sp7tp$ef2$1...@plug.news.pipex.net>, Alex Mitchell
><yc...@dial.pipex.com> writes
>>I would like to say I am in the market for a gas plasma screen.....but to
be
>>honest I cant justify it just yet.
>>
>>However, I am interested in your opinions. I have read the reviews for
>>Fujitsu and the latest phillips models. Am I right in thinking that the
>>former has dropped in price recently from £12K to £9k
John Chang
Paul Reading wrote in message
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>Last week one of the manufacturers announced a 50" plasma screen. Who was
it
>and has anyone seen it?
Umm, it may be the new one from NEC.
People, please note that most of the available gas plasma screens are for
data and point-of-sale/point-of-interest (POS/POI) display. AFAIK, Philips
is the only manufacturer to offer a home-theatre product using this
technology. Surely there will be more, but for now, its the former.
Regards,
John
Nick Alaway
BTW; the NEC 42" widescreen is very good "in the flesh"
-Nick Alaway
Peter Hawken
>
> I felt a huge disturbance in the force when On Tue, 8 Sep 1998
> 18:47:18 +0100, "g.young" <g.y...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
> >>
> >i have heard that some are rather noisy due to something like an internal
> >cooling fan and suffer from poor brightness.
>
> We've had a,few in for tests as "client-impressing" 16:9
> monitors...but to be honest, they're pants for the money. Bright,
> detailed still-ish images look gorgeous from 20 feet away, but as soon
> as you look closely, the contrast is for shit and if you see a fade to
> black on one, you'll laugh your arse off- the monitor appears to do
> three steps from full brightness to black, rather than a continuous
> fade. The demo material I've seen does indeed have very bright
> colours, no chroma noise etc., but then I don't suppose you'll be
> using serial digital CCIR 601 interface from a £30,000 digital betacam
> player. I've also seen one being fed by a DVD player, and those
> projector, nice screen and save five grand, and get a huge picture
> into the bargain.
I think that some of the opinions of plasma are a little unfair here.
Certainly plasma technology has some limitations. Resolution and
pixelation are two of them. The latest generation of them have overcome
many of the problems seen in the earlier images. The resolution and
image quality has also improved.
From my experience of designing and installing both video projectors and
monitors of various kinds, I have noticed that most people faced with a
new technology like CRT projectors, then LCD projectors and now plasma,
will all approach the screen, study each pixel and announce 'I can see
the pixels!'
When Plasma screens are specified properly, installed properly and
viewed from a sensible distance, the quality will begin to rival many
conventional CRT based monitors.
As to the suggestion of a video projector, I can't help thinking that
in a small environment like most domestic situations, most projectors
would produce a lower quality image, suffer from more fan noise as well
as other problems associated with projected images. Once again, video
projectors have a definite placein the entertainment and presentation
market. In my own opinion, domestic environments are often not the best
place for them.
Returning to the original question of plasma screens, I think that I
would certainly consider obtaining one for my own home if I had a room
large enough to house it. The space I have available would prevent me
from buying one as there is not enough distance to avoid the problem of
visible pixels. Perhaps if I had just another few feet...