Yamaha DSP-E800 problem ?
Tim Roberson
concerned it might be faulty, and would be grateful for any feedback:
First, the output for the front speakers seems extremely low (in fact, for
the first hour or so, I was convinced it wasn't producing any sound and was
ready to send it back). What I ended up doing is setting the volume for the
centre/rear channels to the lowest possible setting to balance out the low
volume from the front. Just one click louder, and I'm unable to get my front
amp volume up to a level that will balance it out (and these are Audiolab
amps - no wimps).
Having said all that, when set as above, the sound is very good, and
properly balanced... It's just that I'd be happier knowing this was an
anomily of the unit rather than a fault....
Second, could someone confirm whether it's common to get lip-sync problms
with DTS? I only have one DTS disc - "Hannibal" - so I'm not able to do a
comparison to check for a faulty disc. The problem goes away when I switch
to dolby digital.
Thanks for any comments
glimmerung
U571 at my m8s (he does have the E800) there were no lip sync problems as
far as I could tell (and I notice that pretty fast).
I can't help on the volume other than to say that your problem doesn't sound
right to me.
Anyway, not a great deal of help I know, but I hope it's of some use. Good
luck sorting it out.
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Joe Chip
from my fainting couch and realised what Tim Roberson was going on
about:
>First, the output for the front speakers seems extremely low (in fact, for
>the first hour or so, I was convinced it wasn't producing any sound and was
>ready to send it back). What I ended up doing is setting the volume for the
>centre/rear channels to the lowest possible setting to balance out the low
>volume from the front. Just one click louder, and I'm unable to get my front
>amp volume up to a level that will balance it out (and these are Audiolab
>amps - no wimps).
I presume you have balanced the speaker outputs using the test menu?
Also check you don't have the 10db cut enabled on the front speakers.
hth
--
ö Uncle Joe
^
paul dixon
Do you have the E800 main out connected to, say, an aux input on your
audiolab amp? If so, have you got the volume on you audiolab amp
cranked up enough?
I have an E800 and Nad 340 amp. I set the Nad volume control to 50%
and connect the yamaha main out to an aux input on the Nad. I didn't
have to tweak the rear volume level much.
What I did have to do to get enough bass from the sub when in prologic
mode (compared to my old E492) was set the LFE for Dolby Digital and
DTS to -10db and then balance the system using the test tone.
Cheerio,
Paul
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Tim Roberson <thed...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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I had the same problem with my Arcam 8/8P amp setup, infact I took the E800
back thinking it did not work. However, I found out from the retailer, that
you do have to crank up the stereo amp a lot, I now have my Arcam on around
1-2 o-clock position, and this works fine and balances nicely with my rear
and center speaker. Still I too was surprised as to how high you have to
put your main amps volume up. When finished you must remember to turn the
volume down when listing to another source or you could blow your speakers.
cheers
glimmerung
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Joe Chip
from my fainting couch and realised what glimmerung was going on
about:
>Hey Joe. Off topic, but is your name a ref to Philip Dick?
... and your's a ref to Wagner?
Tock!
Duncan Armstrong
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> concerned it might be faulty, and would be grateful for any feedback:
>
> First, the output for the front speakers seems extremely low (in fact, for
> the first hour or so, I was convinced it wasn't producing any sound and was
> ready to send it back). What I ended up doing is setting the volume for the
> centre/rear channels to the lowest possible setting to balance out the low
> volume from the front. Just one click louder, and I'm unable to get my front
> amp volume up to a level that will balance it out (and these are Audiolab
> amps - no wimps).
>
I have the '800 and used it with a NAD C370 (certainly no slouch of an amp!) and I had the NAD set
to the 12 o'clock position, and had the centre and surround channels set to -3 or -4 dB to get a
balanced sound.
> Second, could someone confirm whether it's common to get lip-sync problms
> with DTS? I only have one DTS disc - "Hannibal" - so I'm not able to do a
> comparison to check for a faulty disc. The problem goes away when I switch
> to dolby digital.
>
I have plenty of DTS discs, and not one of them has lip-sync problems. Haven't tried Hannibal,
though.
Cheers,
Dunc
Tim Roberson
I've been doing some more tinkering with my front amp, which also has a
"bias" control. I've never found a use for this until now, as all it seems
to do is boost the volume in fixed steps. I've always kept it on the lowest
setting, which still gave me more than enough maximum volume, but protected
against my kids cranking the volume knob up to max and damaging the speakers
(or their ears).
I've turned this up a couple of notches to give me the easy-to-remember
12o'clock setting for listening to the E800. This is more convenient, but
still means I have to leave the rears set to the lowest setting (-20dB), and
as has already been mentioned, I'll have to be very careful when I switch
back to listening to music.
I'm happy to live with this now that I know they're all like it, but I
can't help wondering what the designers at Yamaha were thinking of when they
decided on this ridiculously low front output level - I mean, why not just
make it the same as any other piece of line-level equipment? Very stange...
As for the lip-sync thing, I'm gonna try to get a listen to some more DTS
discs... but you may be hearing from me again on that one! BTW, my player is
a Toshiba SD SD2109, with the Techtronics multimod, if anybody knows of a
specific problem with it.
- Tim
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Nigel Percy
> I'm happy to live with this now that I know they're all like it, but I
> can't help wondering what the designers at Yamaha were thinking of when
they
> decided on this ridiculously low front output level - I mean, why not just
> make it the same as any other piece of line-level equipment? Very
stange...
>
Tim
The DSP-E800 pre-outs are controlled via the volume control, this is needed
so you
can control the volume of both the internal amps and external amps
simultanously.
If you turned the volume control on the DSP to maximum it would be giving a
signal
equivalent to any other line level output. It works best if you connect it
to a power
amp or an integrated amp with with inputs which by pass the volume control.
I have mine connected to an Arcam Alpha 9 (Which has an AV switch to bypass
volume control) This means the Alpha is effectively running at maximum
volume.
This is why you have got your rears on -20dB - You have already got a fair
bit
of attentuation with your volume control at 12 o'clock.
Cheers
Nige
Tim Roberson
a
> signal
> equivalent to any other line level output. It works best if you connect it
> to a power
> amp or an integrated amp with with inputs which by pass the volume
control.
Eureka!
Thanks Nige for pointing out the obvious fact that I couldn't see even
though it was staring me in the face.
That clearly answers the whole question about the volume.
I'm pretty sure my Audiolab 8000Q preamp doesn't have bypass inputs though -
I'll be checking this out later.
I still think Yamaha should have put the standard signal setting somewhere
towards the half-way point on the volume dial rather than at max, as I'm
sure most people are going through a preamp rather than direct to a power
amp - but maybe there is a technical reason for this (I'm no electronics
engineer!)
Cheers,
Tim
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Tim Roberson
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glimmerung
character (or an alien or something, Dick is never easy to pin down). It
appears in several short stories, a kid's book called Nick and the Glimmung
and most notably in The Galactic Pot Healer. However, it's quite possible
that Dick got the name from Wagner. He was a keen classical music fan
apparently. Somebody out there will probably know whether that is the case
or not.
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