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Daniel Young

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Mar 15, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/15/99
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Hi everybody. I am thinking of buying a sub for my dolby digital sony
kit.
Do you guys think its worth while as i have herd it briefly and didnt
really think much difference without it.?

Comments please.

Regards
Daniel


Stuart Wright

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Mar 15, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/15/99
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On Mon, 15 Mar 1999 21:42:12 +1300, Daniel Young <daniel...@iname.com>
wrote:

>Hi everybody. I am thinking of buying a sub for my dolby digital sony
>kit.

Which kit?

>Do you guys think its worth while as i have herd it briefly and didnt
>really think much difference without it.?

Heard what briefly?

>
>Comments please.
>

Whatever you heard can't have been very good since the with/without
comparison on a subwoofer in a dd5.1 setup should be striking.
The 5.1 system specifies that you should have a sub. And I agree.
Absolutely definately get one. Have a listen to a REL. The Q100E is
popular. (For good reason).
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Mário Cunha

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Mar 15, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/15/99
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In my opinion and in few words, the difference between having and not having
an SW is the diference between for example earing an explosion and feeling
an explosion.

MC

Liam McCauley

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Mar 15, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/15/99
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Mário Cunha wrote in message <7ciqh8$n...@brown.telepac.pt>...

>
>>>Do you guys think its worth while as i have herd it briefly and didnt
>>>really think much difference without it.?

>


>In my opinion and in few words, the difference between having and not
having
>an SW is the diference between for example earing an explosion and feeling
>an explosion.
>

Well, ... I'd say it depends.

With an Arcam Alpha 10 driving Monitor Audio 703 PMC's, I can definitely
"feel" explosions :-).

I have demoed a REL Storm for a couple of weeks at home, but it was with an
AV50 for the amplification and Pioneer 606D doing the decoding instead of
the Alpha 10, so I couldn't give a definitive yes/no for my current set up.
Also, it hilighted failings in the rest of my system (the decoder in the
606) which meant that the money was better allocated elsewhere (the Alpha
10).

Your best bet is to talk to a good (hopefully local) dealer and arrange a
home demo. If it sounds better in your setup in your home, then it's worth
it.

Cheers,
Liam

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Andy Tedford

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Mar 15, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/15/99
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surely the point is... the .1 in 5.1 is the sub-woofer, sounds are
specifically directed to the woofer, so if you dont have one I presume there
are sounds that will not be going to the fronts !

anyway, I have one and it 'feels' great, makes the floor rumble in thunder
etc however, I've never heard anything from it in DPL - any comments ?
(Yamaha DSP-A1)

cheers

A


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Mike

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Mar 15, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/15/99
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Make sure that your basic system is up to scratch first. Adding a sub to a
poor set-up could make things worse. I recently demo 'd some subs and the
Sony 925 was the only available amp to use for the demo (I am guessing this
is the amp you have?). It sounded fine and the difference between using a
sub and not using a sub was very apparent.

If you are using very large main speakers and re-routing the LF effects
channel to the main left and right then adding a sub may seem insignificant
if it is a low quality sub. You will need to specify what speakers and kit
you have to get descent answers to your posting. However, you would have to
have very large speakers not to notice the difference achieved by adding say
a RELQ100. You really should consider getting a subwoofer for Dolby Digital.
The difference a good sub makes can be breathtaking; it does not just add
rumble on explosions it helps create a great sense of ambience, which really
adds to most modern films. Some subs can be good for music as well. I
recently purchased a B&W ASW1000 for home cinema and I was surprised by the
dramatic effect it had on straight stereo music playback. I thought that the
sound was good before I added the sub, but now the entire frequency range is
clearer with a greater richness. Now when I turn the sub off the music seems
flat by comparison.

Stuart Wright wrote in message <36ecd86e...@news.demon.co.uk>...


>On Mon, 15 Mar 1999 21:42:12 +1300, Daniel Young <daniel...@iname.com>
>wrote:
>
>>Hi everybody. I am thinking of buying a sub for my dolby digital sony
>>kit.
>
>Which kit?
>

>>Do you guys think its worth while as i have herd it briefly and didnt
>>really think much difference without it.?
>

Kelvin Pope

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Mar 15, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/15/99
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On Mon, 15 Mar 1999 21:42:12 +1300, Daniel Young
<daniel...@iname.com> wrote:

>Hi everybody. I am thinking of buying a sub for my dolby digital sony
>kit.

>Do you guys think its worth while as i have herd it briefly and didnt
>really think much difference without it.?
>

>Comments please.
>
>Regards
>Daniel

Couldn't agree more with the other responses.

I have a Pioneer VSX906 DD receiver and a Kenwood active sub. I
thought the bass was good before I got the sub, but was 'blown away'
when I hooked it all up.

At times you sit there thinking, "Is it working?" but if you turn it
off and replay the sequence it is an amazing difference.

I set mine up with the Video Essentials DVD and it seems to be that
the best level is when you can't quite hear the bass. It just seems
to blend in with the other sounds.

Naff disciption I know, but it really has to be heard to make any
sense.

My advice, get one to demo in your own house with your set up and have
a play. It may annoy the neighbours, but hey, you can't have
everything.

Kelvin.

Ian Fitter

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Mar 15, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/15/99
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"Andy Tedford" <andrew....@virgin.NOSPAM.net> wrote:

>surely the point is... the .1 in 5.1 is the sub-woofer, sounds are
>specifically directed to the woofer, so if you dont have one I presume there
>are sounds that will not be going to the fronts !

Depends on your setup. On the A2, you can direct the LFE into the main
speakers.

>anyway, I have one and it 'feels' great, makes the floor rumble in thunder
>etc however, I've never heard anything from it in DPL - any comments ?

Hmm... I got a sub before I got DD 5.1, and I got plenty through it. I
still do get a lot thru it on DPL. Check your settings. You may have
your LFE set to go thru the Main speakers.
>

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Ian Fitter

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Mar 15, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/15/99
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k.s....@sussex.ac.uk (Kelvin Pope) wrote:


>
>At times you sit there thinking, "Is it working?" but if you turn it
>off and replay the sequence it is an amazing difference.
>

It's also interesting to turn off all the speakers except the sub and
listen to what comes thru in normal non-action scenes.

Richard Wood

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Mar 16, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/16/99
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Mário Cunha wrote:
> In my opinion and in few words, the difference between having and not having
> an SW is the diference between for example earing an explosion and feeling
> an explosion.

With *good* front main speakers (not these poxy slimline modern things :-) you
can easily feel explosions.

I find myself turning down the volume or bass whenever I watch a DVD, too much!

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