Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions. Historical content remains viewable.
Dismiss

Customs, DVD's, 3 hits in one week

0 views
Skip to first unread message

"Cashier number 4 is now available"

unread,
Feb 22, 2001, 6:51:24 PM2/22/01
to
Well My past orders from Amazon (and other places too) have always slipped
through but in the last week 3 packages have ALL been hit by customs.
1 from dvdplanet
1 from digitaleyes and
1 from Amazon.com

So I called the number on the slip and spoke to a very nice lady who said
that the PO was supposed to present ALL items from outside the EU to them
for inspection but sometimes some of them slip the net (pardon the pun).
With the internet there has been an explosion of sales on DVD's and CD's etc
that it was difficult to keep up with it all.

She also said that there had been a problem with Amazon stuff slipping
though but now this was resolved and so basically ALL Amazon stuff WILL now
be presented and charged if needed. She also said that they don't bother
opening the packages now - they simply charge on the declared amount (which
was good for me cause in one package was a 3 disc set and a criterion
totalling $80 but it was marked at $30 so only paid £5) My advice is to
avoid Amazon now unless you want charges.

She had heard of all the names I mentioned (e-tailers) and said it is just
down to luck (at the moment i don't feel very lucky with 3 hits in a week).
She also mentioned that there could be a new postal manager who is more
efficient which is why more items are being presented and charged now.

This is the first time i have ever been charged and all of a sudden I get 3
in one week :-(

The ONLY thing apart from the declaration amount on the ticket in my opinion
that made them stand out was that they were all in boxes rather than jiffy
bags. If this makes a difference im not sure

Yes I know and have used dv-depot and others in the past and will continue
too as well it was just strange that this was the first time using
digitaleyes and dvdplanet.

Ohh, by the way while i was talking I asked her about the porno laws etc and
she said "officially" the line they take is its STILL illegal to import and
should only be bought from licenced sex shops in the UK.

HTH anyone
Simon

--


What did you have for your tea Dave?

Barbera - The Royle Family.

Please remember to remove your "smellytrainers" ® © before replying

simon46sme...@tesco.net

E&OE


Chris

unread,
Feb 23, 2001, 6:14:04 AM2/23/01
to
If you order your DVDs one at a time you wont be charged. I think the limit
is about £18 before customs charge you duty.

Chris.
"Cashier number 4 is now available" <dmr...@clara.co.uk> wrote in message
news:YChl6.3648$sB4.5...@nnrp4.clara.net...

Jamie Preston

unread,
Feb 24, 2001, 10:44:16 AM2/24/01
to

""Cashier number 4 is now available"" <dmr...@clara.co.uk> wrote in message
news:YChl6.3648$sB4.5...@nnrp4.clara.net...
<snip>

> Ohh, by the way while i was talking I asked her about the porno laws etc
> and she said "officially" the line they take is its STILL illegal to
import and
> should only be bought from licenced sex shops in the UK.

Well, I think she doesn't know what she's talking about!

I've written to my local HM Customs & Excise Advice Centre & been told that
it is not illegal, so long as the vids comply with the new BBFC guidelines.
Also, various other people (read uk.politics.censorship) have spoken to /
written to Customs officials in London & elsewhere & been categorically told
that it is now legal to import hardcore porn into the UK, so long as it
complies with the new BBFC guidelines.
What is still illegal is buying actual R18 videos by mailorder from *within*
the UK, due to the Video Recordings Act
Yet, buying porn from *outside* the UK is now fully legal, as long as it
contains nothing that would be forbidden in an R18. As the BBFC now allows
hardcore, then hardcore is no longer legally deemed to be obscene [following
a ruling by the High Court], as long as it complies with the new BBFC
guidelines. Therefore, if Customs try to seize any porn being imported for
personal use, that contains nothing that wouldn't be allowed in an R18,
*they* are actually breaking the law, according to the European Court (it is
an "illegal restriction of trade"). Also, they would be violating Article 10
of the European Convention on Human Rights. (Article 10 concerns Freedom of
Expression. The ECHR was incorporated into British Law by the Human Rights
Act 1998, which came into force in October 2000).

Jamie


laymonite

unread,
Feb 24, 2001, 10:08:48 PM2/24/01
to

Jamie Preston <jamie_...@nospamyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:OGQl6.20402$5n4.4...@news6-win.server.ntlworld.com...
A well made and researched statement.

HMC&E have been breaching UK law for decades though, seizing and destroying
legally available material, threatening (often ridiculously but no less
legally seriously) to prosecute as a bullying tactic as normal standard
practice for any little seizure, often when they have already destroyed
items they have seemingly at random deemed obscene..

HMC&E are notoriously unaccountable. Particularly worrying when you consider
their duties and powers - organised drug smuggling for example.

Mike.

tk

unread,
Feb 24, 2001, 10:56:40 PM2/24/01
to
>===== Original Message From "laymonite" <laym...@ntlworld.com> =====

>Jamie Preston <jamie_...@nospamyahoo.com> wrote in message

>HMC&E have been breaching UK law for decades though, seizing and destroying


>legally available material, threatening (often ridiculously but no less
>legally seriously) to prosecute as a bullying tactic as normal standard
>practice for any little seizure, often when they have already destroyed
>items they have seemingly at random deemed obscene..
>
>HMC&E are notoriously unaccountable. Particularly worrying when you consider
>their duties and powers - organised drug smuggling for example.
>

assuming that you are ordering up from the US, what if you had an american
``friend'' order the bloody disks up for you then resend them in some
unobvious way and also mark them as ``gift'' so you won't even have to pay
tax? ;-{)

has anyone tried this? and how exactly was the stuff re-packaged to make it
go
thru? does customs xray everything? and you can always declare something
other
than DVD on the slip.

"Cashier number 4 is now available"

unread,
Mar 5, 2001, 3:30:33 AM3/5/01
to
If you order your DVDs one at a time you wont be charged. I think the limit
is about £18 before customs charge you duty.


I Did. thats what pisses me off.

--


What did you have for your tea Dave?

Barbera - The Royle Family.

Please remember to remove your "smellytrainers" ® © before replying

simon46sme...@tesco.net

E&OE
"Chris" <ch-d...@usa.net> wrote in message
news:xxrl6.15031$MN.3...@news2-win.server.ntlworld.com...

Der Pobman

unread,
Mar 7, 2001, 7:44:46 PM3/7/01
to

>> the UK, due to the Video Recordings Act
>> Yet, buying porn from *outside* the UK is now fully legal, as long as it
>> contains nothing that would be forbidden in an R18. As the BBFC now allows
>> hardcore, then hardcore is no longer legally deemed to be obscene
>[following

BUT a huge amount of porn has at least one anal sex scene in it, and
to my knowledge this is still prohibited even with the new R18 cert.
Thus the vast majority of DVDs and Videos would still illegal.

(sorry if this has been mentioned.. but I seem to be missing several
threads from this discussion)

Rob

Don't forget to remove the NOSPAM if you want to email me...

______________________________________________________________________
Posted Via Uncensored-News.Com - Still Only $9.95 - http://www.uncensored-news.com
With Servers In California, Texas And Virginia - The Worlds Uncensored News Source

DVDfever Dom

unread,
Mar 7, 2001, 8:36:01 PM3/7/01
to
In article <3aa8d563...@texas.uncensored-news.com>

pob...@bigfoot.comNOSPAM (Der Pobman) writes:
>>> the UK, due to the Video Recordings Act
>>> Yet, buying porn from *outside* the UK is now fully legal, as long as it
>>> contains nothing that would be forbidden in an R18. As the BBFC now allows
>>> hardcore, then hardcore is no longer legally deemed to be obscene
>>[following
>
>BUT a huge amount of porn has at least one anal sex scene in it, and
>to my knowledge this is still prohibited even with the new R18 cert.
>Thus the vast majority of DVDs and Videos would still illegal.

Is the act itself now legal between consenting couples? I used to know
but I'm buggered if I can remember...

Dom Robinson
Editor, DVDfever.co.uk; Contributor, HCC, City Life & Freeloader.com
--
d...@dvdfever.co.uk DVDfever.co.uk is 1 year old!
/* http://DVDfever.co.uk
/* 522 DVDs, 106 games, 32 videos, 22 cinema films, 16 CDs, laserdiscs & news
/* id4, o brother where art thou?, rocky horror, moody blues, colin mcrae 2
/* Reviews + ONdigital, DVD, widescreen VHS lists & release schedules online

Major-Dump

unread,
Mar 8, 2001, 3:49:35 AM3/8/01
to
Why would you want anal sex to begin with, I've never asked any of my
girlfrinds to perform this act.


Nooch


DVDfever Dom <d...@dvdfever.co.uk> wrote in message
news:984040...@dvdfever.co.uk...

Der Pobman

unread,
Mar 8, 2001, 1:02:05 PM3/8/01
to
On Thu, 8 Mar 2001 08:49:35 -0000, "Major-Dump"
<sharon....@ntlworld.com> wrote:

Whether you want it or not is irrelevant... simple fact is that the
presence of anal sex in many porn films still makes them, to my
knowledge, illegal in the UK.

And no it is NOT legal between hetrosexual couples. Though it is
between homosexual (surely there are some EU rights laws being
conflicted with here).

Rob

gareth young

unread,
Mar 8, 2001, 12:59:17 PM3/8/01
to

"Der Pobman" <pob...@bigfoot.comNOSPAM> wrote in message
news:3aa8d563...@texas.uncensored-news.com...

> BUT a huge amount of porn has at least one anal sex scene in it, and
> to my knowledge this is still prohibited even with the new R18 cert.

no it's not-just search the BBFC database-there are even some with the word
anal in the title.


--
Gareth.
you keep getting on my nerves and i'm gonna give you another kind of house
to look after,
one with lots of bars in the windows.


gareth young

unread,
Mar 8, 2001, 1:29:40 PM3/8/01
to

"Der Pobman" <pob...@bigfoot.comNOSPAM> wrote in message
news:3aa7c892...@texas.uncensored-news.com...

> On Thu, 8 Mar 2001 08:49:35 -0000, "Major-Dump"
> <sharon....@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
> Whether you want it or not is irrelevant... simple fact is that the
> presence of anal sex in many porn films still makes them, to my
> knowledge, illegal in the UK.
>
> And no it is NOT legal between hetrosexual couples.

yes it is.
used to be illegal but not anymore.

Martin Nike

unread,
Mar 8, 2001, 2:05:31 PM3/8/01
to

Anal sex is OK under R18 regulations.


Nivek Edrof

unread,
Mar 8, 2001, 2:00:11 PM3/8/01
to
"Martin Nike" <si...@clara.net.NOSPAM> wrote in message
news:UAQp6.4421$HR6.4...@nnrp4.clara.net...

>
> Anal sex is OK under R18 regulations.
>

Glad to hear it. I must have a classifier round one night.

DVDfever Dom

unread,
Mar 8, 2001, 3:36:05 PM3/8/01
to
In article <WEHp6.126$t1.3...@news6-win.server.ntlworld.com>

"Major-Dump" <sharon....@ntlworld.com> writes:
>DVDfever Dom <d...@dvdfever.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:984040...@dvdfever.co.uk...
>> In article <3aa8d563...@texas.uncensored-news.com>
>> pob...@bigfoot.comNOSPAM (Der Pobman) writes:
>> >>> the UK, due to the Video Recordings Act
>> >>> Yet, buying porn from *outside* the UK is now fully legal, as long as
>it
>> >>> contains nothing that would be forbidden in an R18. As the BBFC now
>allows
>> >>> hardcore, then hardcore is no longer legally deemed to be obscene
>> >>[following
>> >
>> >BUT a huge amount of porn has at least one anal sex scene in it, and
>> >to my knowledge this is still prohibited even with the new R18 cert.
>> >Thus the vast majority of DVDs and Videos would still illegal.
>>
>> Is the act itself now legal between consenting couples? I used to know
>> but I'm buggered if I can remember...
>>
>Why would you want anal sex to begin with, I've never asked any of my
>girlfrinds to perform this act.

Why would you want to top-post? (I've put this in the right place)

I've never asked any of my girlfrinds to perform THAT act.

Sarah Meadows

unread,
Mar 8, 2001, 10:40:58 PM3/8/01
to

"Der Pobman" <pob...@bigfoot.comNOSPAM> wrote in message
news:3aa7c892...@texas.uncensored-news.com...
> On Thu, 8 Mar 2001 08:49:35 -0000, "Major-Dump"
> <sharon....@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
> Whether you want it or not is irrelevant... simple fact is that the
> presence of anal sex in many porn films still makes them, to my
> knowledge, illegal in the UK.
>
> And no it is NOT legal between hetrosexual couples. Though it is
> between homosexual (surely there are some EU rights laws being
> conflicted with here).
>
> Rob
>
> >Why would you want anal sex to begin with, I've never asked any of my
> >girlfrinds to perform this act.

Maybe thats because you are worried that having anal sex may make you gay in
some way.. Surely you are denying a possibility of something completely new
and exciting because of social fears and prejudices.
I live that you should try most things once excepting children, animals and
poo.


S

DVDfever Dom

unread,
Mar 9, 2001, 3:43:42 AM3/9/01
to
In article <ehYp6.2920$pR3.5...@news2-win.server.ntlworld.com>

And broccoli (bleah!)

Cesare Cioni

unread,
Mar 10, 2001, 3:03:33 AM3/10/01
to
Der Pobman <pob...@bigfoot.comNOSPAM> wrote:

> And no it is NOT legal between hetrosexual couples.

Nw, can anybody explain to me how on earth they can enforce this, if
both partners are consenting?

Cesare

Der Pobman

unread,
Mar 10, 2001, 4:55:48 AM3/10/01
to
On Sat, 10 Mar 2001 09:03:33 +0100, cci...@eudoramail.com (Cesare
Cioni) wrote:

Well I am told it is now legal. So there is no need :-)

I have NO idea how it could have been inforced before 94 though...

Me

>> And no it is NOT legal between hetrosexual couples.
>
>Nw, can anybody explain to me how on earth they can enforce this, if
>both partners are consenting?
>
>Cesare

gareth young

unread,
Mar 10, 2001, 6:48:48 AM3/10/01
to

"Der Pobman" <pob...@bigfoot.comNOSPAM> wrote in message
news:3aa9f9f...@texas.uncensored-news.com...

> On Sat, 10 Mar 2001 09:03:33 +0100, cci...@eudoramail.com (Cesare
> Cioni) wrote:
>
> Well I am told it is now legal. So there is no need :-)
>
> I have NO idea how it could have been inforced before 94 though...
>

i bet there were lots of volunteers for the police stakeouts though!
quick men-knock down the doorand handcuff them,he's stuck it up her arse.

Ian Rawlings

unread,
Mar 10, 2001, 5:10:10 AM3/10/01
to
On Sat, 10 Mar 2001 09:03:33 +0100,
Cesare Cioni <cci...@eudoramail.com> wrote:

> Nw, can anybody explain to me how on earth they can enforce this, if
> both partners are consenting?

Bigotry. Remember the case some years ago about the consenting gay
S&M nuts who were torturing each other, somehow word of this got out
and they were prosecuted? It was in pretty much all the papers as
either a just punishment for gross perversion or a gross invasion of
personal freedom, depending on the paper you read..

--
There are no facts, only opinions.

Stroller

unread,
Mar 10, 2001, 8:00:52 AM3/10/01
to

"Ian Rawlings" <new...@tarcus.org.uk> wrote in message
news:slrn9ajvc2...@gate.tarcus.org.uk...

It's called the Spooner case, IIRC, and it's still regarded as quite a
sleight by those in certain lifestyles, as it might appear still to be
current precedent.

Stroller.

--
Stroller stroller at bigfoot dot com

If you never did, you should. These things are fun, and fun is good.
(Seuss)


ViNNY

unread,
Mar 10, 2001, 12:37:54 PM3/10/01
to
"Sarah Meadows" <pimpl...@kujimedia.com> wrote in message
news:ehYp6.2920$pR3.5...@news2-win.server.ntlworld.com...

I move to add Octogenarians to this list.

-Vin


Sproutey

unread,
Mar 10, 2001, 2:53:22 PM3/10/01
to
...
....And Eric Cartmans Mum........

Sprotey

Der Pobman

unread,
Mar 10, 2001, 7:57:16 PM3/10/01
to
On Sat, 10 Mar 2001 11:48:48 -0000, "gareth young"
<g.y...@btinternet.com> wrote:

>
>"Der Pobman" <pob...@bigfoot.comNOSPAM> wrote in message
>news:3aa9f9f...@texas.uncensored-news.com...
>> On Sat, 10 Mar 2001 09:03:33 +0100, cci...@eudoramail.com (Cesare
>> Cioni) wrote:
>>
>> Well I am told it is now legal. So there is no need :-)
>>
>> I have NO idea how it could have been inforced before 94 though...
>>
>
>i bet there were lots of volunteers for the police stakeouts though!
>quick men-knock down the doorand handcuff them,he's stuck it up her arse.

:-) ... you have to laugh thinking about such a scene...

Me

JMO

unread,
Mar 10, 2001, 8:25:40 PM3/10/01
to
Seriously though, these laws have always relied on someone informing the
police of a misdemeanour. That's how most of those stupid "how the f**k do
you enforce _that_??" laws work in the UK.

"Der Pobman" <pob...@bigfoot.comNOSPAM> wrote in message

news:3aaacd5...@texas.uncensored-news.com...

ViNNY

unread,
Mar 10, 2001, 9:39:36 PM3/10/01
to
"JMO" <dontyoud...@lousyeffinspammer.com> wrote in message
news:ouAq6.1339$T45.7...@news2.cableinet.net...

> Seriously though, these laws have always relied on someone informing the
> police of a misdemeanour. That's how most of those stupid "how the f**k
do
> you enforce _that_??" laws work in the UK.

Yep - in theory, bitter girlfriends could go to the police and report their
boyfriend for taking them up the Gary - wouldn't like to have to collect the
evidence though... or dust for fingerprints :-)

-Vin


Cesare Cioni

unread,
Mar 11, 2001, 3:15:56 AM3/11/01
to
ViNNY <vi...@vinnyworld.zzn.com> wrote:

> Yep - in theory, bitter girlfriends could go to the police and report their
> boyfriend for taking them up the Gary - wouldn't like to have to collect the
> evidence though... or dust for fingerprints :-)

Yes - but if at the time they let him do it, wouldn't they also be
guilty of the same offence?

Cesare

DVDfever Dom

unread,
Mar 10, 2001, 11:02:10 AM3/10/01
to
In article <3aa9f9f...@texas.uncensored-news.com>

pob...@bigfoot.comNOSPAM (Der Pobman) writes:
>On Sat, 10 Mar 2001 09:03:33 +0100, cci...@eudoramail.com (Cesare
>Cioni) wrote:
>
>>> And no it is NOT legal between hetrosexual couples.
>>
>>Nw, can anybody explain to me how on earth they can enforce this, if
>>both partners are consenting?
>
>Well I am told it is now legal. So there is no need :-)
>
>I have NO idea how it could have been inforced before 94 though...

Surely they send round Viz's Bottom Inspectors :)

Dom Robinson
Editor, DVDfever.co.uk; Contributor, HCC, City Life & Freeloader.com
--
d...@dvdfever.co.uk DVDfever.co.uk is 1 year old!
/* http://DVDfever.co.uk

/* 523 DVDs, 106 games, 32 videos, 22 cinema films, 16 CDs, laserdiscs & news
/* abyss, id4, o brother where art thou?, rocky horror, moody blues,colinmcrae2

Brian Dorling

unread,
Mar 13, 2001, 12:29:16 PM3/13/01
to
I still remeber living in London around 1978, when
the special branch was going around the city raiding the
news kiosks confiscating Playboys or Penthouses etc...
Apparently the IRA was also planting bombs at that time too,
makes you wonder about priorities.....

Cheers Brian

0 new messages