OT:Tivo with no subscription
A.J.B
Or should that be what do you get for your sub money.
Still £99.99 at dixons.Might consider buying one but
don't really want to pay the subscription.
Andy.
Don Mo
why not try google.com ? i bet its all in there in the archives (dont search
uk.media.dvd theres a UK.tech.tv.video.pvr group which prob has all the
answers
"A.J.B" <andrew_...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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Andy
> What can you do with a Tivo with no subscription?.
> Or should that be what do you get for your sub money.
> Still £99.99 at dixons.
Don't think Dixons have stock, do they?
Comet & Currys have removed it from their inventory, and Dixons give you a
"sorry no stock" messgae at the back end of the checkout process.
I ordered one from Dixons a spell back, a week on they mailed me back to say
they'd cancelled the order due to problems with my credit card. I phoned
the CC company, and they said that Dixons had submitted the wrong exp. date
to them. A few days later I ordered again, but this time I used Currys. I
meticulously entered all the information, and used a different card for good
measure. A week on *exactly* the same thing happened.
I'm not too fissed really - I hanker for gadgets, then rarely ever use them.
My Pronto's been gathering dust for 3 or 4 months now.
Andy
Sam Rogers
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> A.J.B wrote:
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> I'm not too fissed really - I hanker for gadgets, then rarely ever use
them.
> My Pronto's been gathering dust for 3 or 4 months now.
>
> Andy
>
>
Want to sell it? :)
Sam Rogers
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Andy
> Want to sell it? :)
No, not for the minute, thanks. I'll get round to using it one day. My
problem is getting a set of equipment I know I'm going to be keeping for the
long-term, I'll then put the effort into programming the Pronto and making
good use of it.
Andy
Jomtien
>What can you do with a Tivo with no subscription?.
A high-quality VCR that will record from a timer (with nag screens).
>Or should that be what do you get for your sub money.
You certainly get your money's worth for the lifetime sub. The sub
gives you the full Tivo EPG, special automatic recording features and
full channel control.
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Marcus L. Rowland
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>I meticulously entered all the information, and used a
>different card for good measure. A week on *exactly* the same thing
>happened.
Same here. I assume you are aware that Dixons and Currys are the same
company?
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Andy
>> I meticulously entered all the information, and used a
>> different card for good measure. A week on *exactly* the same thing
>> happened.
>
> Same here. I assume you are aware that Dixons and Currys are the same
> company?
Well, they have different shipping rates etc. I figured if Dixons let me
down, I'd give Currys a go. I know it was a daft thing to do, but it's
weirdly satisfying to have had the same cruddy stunt pulled on me by both
companies.
Andy
guv
Seeing as it was the exact same trick - and you know you didnt make an
error - I'd let trading standards aware of their sneaky trickery.
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guv
>A.J.B wrote:
>
>>What can you do with a Tivo with no subscription?.
>
>A high-quality VCR that will record from a timer (with nag screens).
>
>
>>Or should that be what do you get for your sub money.
>
>You certainly get your money's worth for the lifetime sub. The sub
>gives you the full Tivo EPG, special automatic recording features and
>full channel control.
What about Tivonet? Is that not an alternative? Dont know much about
it to be honest - and it all seems a little too hush hush and very
techy to me, but did have a browse. Not sure if the telnet is instead
of the phone subscription or to suppliment it - but suspect the
former!
Any knowledge?
Andy
>> Seeing as it was the exact same trick - and you know you didnt make an
> error - I'd let trading standards aware of their sneaky trickery.
I'd like to, but I didn't take a screen shot of the correct details being
entered. I can't really prove I wasn't at fault, even if I'm absolutely
certain that I wasn't. What we need is a dozen or so people who fell
victim - I'm only aware of there being three or four that I know of.
Andy
guv
Surely enough?
Jomtien
>>You certainly get your money's worth for the lifetime sub. The sub
>>gives you the full Tivo EPG, special automatic recording features and
>>full channel control.
>
>What about Tivonet? Is that not an alternative? Dont know much about
>it to be honest - and it all seems a little too hush hush and very
>techy to me, but did have a browse. Not sure if the telnet is instead
>of the phone subscription or to suppliment it - but suspect the
>former!
The only info that I have about Tivonet is that it enables your Tivo
to be accessed over the net and also facilitates programming
recordings from a distance, using the Tivo as a web server,
downloading the EPG data without a phone call (perfectly legal and
above board and still requires a subscription), extracting the
recorded data to a PC for dubious DVD/SVCD burning activities
(perfectly acceptable in the UK for own use and a legal right in some
European countries but frowned upon by the politically correct Tivo
community).
I haven't come across any way of bypassing the sub and getting full
functionality, but then again I haven't looked.
Ian Middleton
"Jomtien" <jom...@the.beach> wrote in message
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Quinten Uijldert
Ian Middleton wrote:
> Jomtien wrote
> > guv wrote:
> >
> > >>You certainly get your money's worth for the lifetime sub. The sub
> > >>gives you the full Tivo EPG, special automatic recording features and
> > >>full channel control.
> > >
> > >What about Tivonet? Is that not an alternative? Dont know much about
> > >it to be honest - and it all seems a little too hush hush and very
> > >techy to me, but did have a browse. Not sure if the telnet is instead
> > >of the phone subscription or to suppliment it - but suspect the
> > >former!
There is nothing hush hush about a Turbonet (which is what you call Tivonet)
card. This is nothing but a network card for Tivo, enabling you to utilise
your current internet connection (ADSL/dial-up) to perform EPG updates as
normally would be done with the daily call.
> > The only info that I have about Tivonet is that it enables your Tivo
> > to be accessed over the net and also facilitates programming
> > recordings from a distance, using the Tivo as a web server,
> > downloading the EPG data without a phone call (perfectly legal and
> > above board and still requires a subscription), extracting the
> > recorded data to a PC for dubious DVD/SVCD burning activities
> > (perfectly acceptable in the UK for own use and a legal right in some
> > European countries but frowned upon by the politically correct Tivo
> > community).
As a side-effect of the Turbonet card, you can (because the TiVo is now
accessible using a network) 'hack' (which is again, a bit exagerated (sp?))
it to enable to have a shell prompt on its operating system. This then
enables you to install additional applications like Tivoweb (a webserver
with very nice features to control your Tivo remotely) and extract (but not
without some pain) stored videos from the Tivo to your PC. Some people say
this is a no-no, but others have no problems with that. What is considered
a taboo, is the talking on service theft, i.e. enabling to record with the
Tivo without paying for the guide-data.
> > I haven't come across any way of bypassing the sub and getting full
> > functionality, but then again I haven't looked.
Forget about it. The sub is worth every single penny you pay for it.
> It needs to be a subscribed TiVo before you can install TiVonet.
Nonsense. See above for a description of the Turbonet card. Ofcourse,
having no subscription (and therefore no subscription data) makes
installation of a Turbonet card a bit pointless...
Q.
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Dave Dixson
> a taboo, is the talking on service theft, i.e. enabling to record with the
> Tivo without paying for the guide-data.
AFAIK, the new version of the Tivo software allows timer-based
recording with no subscription anyway (although, obviously, you would
miss out on the EPG stuff).
Patrick Navin
"Quinten Uijldert" <quinte...@notacon.com> wrote:
>
>Masses of Tivo stuff snipped
Hi Q!
Did you ever do anything with that Micro ATX case? :o)
I see you are very much the Tivo devotee now!!!
Patrick
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Marcus L. Rowland
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>>Well, they have different shipping rates etc. I figured if Dixons let me
>>down, I'd give Currys a go. I know it was a daft thing to do, but it's
>>weirdly satisfying to have had the same cruddy stunt pulled on me by both
>>companies.
>
>Seeing as it was the exact same trick - and you know you didnt make an
>error - I'd let trading standards aware of their sneaky trickery.
>
The hell with that - they had their chance to get some of my money, it
isn't going to happen again! I couldn't do anything about it for a few
days because I was away, while I was setting up my video before that
trip I discovered why I couldn't get it to record from the digital
receiver, and was able to fix it. In view of this I'm simply not going
to buy one. Don't need Tivo so much as high quality recording in
general, and for that I'd prefer to wait for cheaper DVD recorders.
Which I will _not_ buy from Dixons or Currys...
guv
<mrow...@ffutures.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>>Well, they have different shipping rates etc. I figured if Dixons let me
>>>down, I'd give Currys a go. I know it was a daft thing to do, but it's
>>>weirdly satisfying to have had the same cruddy stunt pulled on me by both
>>>companies.
>>
>>Seeing as it was the exact same trick - and you know you didnt make an
>>error - I'd let trading standards aware of their sneaky trickery.
>>
>
>The hell with that - they had their chance to get some of my money, it
>isn't going to happen again!
Fair enough - their trick has worked then and they know they can get
away with it again without fear of anyone reporting them! I agree with
your "not buying from them" but to be honest, that isnt going to hurt
them nearly as much as a wrap on the knuckles.
Quinten Uijldert
>
> Hi Q!
>
> Did you ever do anything with that Micro ATX case? :o)
Uhm, shrugs, I sold it onwards again :D We could be evil twins the way we
go about buying and selling our little gadgets ;-) Obviously I would be the
better looking one ;-)
> I see you are very much the Tivo devotee now!!!
Yes sir. Got all the extras as well and am seriously considering another
one 'just for fun'... Damn those expensive hobbies ;-)
Q.
Patrick Navin
ar2c3c$eln88$1...@ID-94261.news.dfncis.de, "Quinten Uijldert"
<quinte...@notacon.com> used all their powers of cognitive reasoning to
regale us with:
> Patrick Navin wrote:
>>
>> Hi Q!
>>
>> Did you ever do anything with that Micro ATX case? :o)
>
> Uhm, shrugs, I sold it onwards again :D We could be evil twins the way we
> go about buying and selling our little gadgets ;-) Obviously I would be the
> better looking one ;-)
I'll give you that one... After all you need some compensation for being
Dutch.... :o)
>
>> I see you are very much the Tivo devotee now!!!
>
> Yes sir. Got all the extras as well and am seriously considering another
> one 'just for fun'... Damn those expensive hobbies ;-)
>
Ah yes expensive hobbies. I recommend you donšt get in to Macs as they have
proved a VERY expensive hobby for me!!
Patrick