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Angus Manwaring

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Apr 21, 2006, 2:10:17 PM4/21/06
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Hi all,

I've never had a Sat Nav, and if I get one it won't get a lot of use, but
after the "navigational discussion" my wife and I had on the way back from
an otherwise very nice holiday, I think it would probably be worth it.

I've sort of focussed on the tomtom one a bit, although I'm not mad about
the touchscreen thing, it just seems kind of..... wrong.

That aside, I'm a clueless newbie so I'd be interested to collect any
opinions/experience/advice/abuse from you guys. :)

Cheers.

All the best,
Angus Manwaring. (for e-mail remove ANTISPEM)

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Nige

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Apr 21, 2006, 2:14:13 PM4/21/06
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Angus, i have had a tomtom & they arent that good. Crap old maps etc. I bought myself a Garmin v3i for
Ł100 & it is miles better. Smallerwith good maps & with speed cams uploaded just as good in every way i
have found.

They are also very small so you can take the whole thing off the screen so no giveaway mount for the
scumbag teefs.

I recommend one.

Nige


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Sean Black

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Apr 21, 2006, 3:19:40 PM4/21/06
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In message <757.337T893T10904808angus@angusm_ANTISPEM_.demon.co.uk>,
Angus Manwaring <angus@angusm_ANTISPEM_.demon.co.uk> writes

>
>Hi all,
>
>I've never had a Sat Nav, and if I get one it won't get a lot of use, but
>after the "navigational discussion" my wife and I had on the way back from
>an otherwise very nice holiday, I think it would probably be worth it.
>
Hehe, exactly the reason I got one :-)

>I've sort of focussed on the tomtom one a bit, although I'm not mad about
>the touchscreen thing, it just seems kind of..... wrong.
>

I bought a NavMan icn510 last year, I think they've bought out an
updated model now though. I know Tesco were doing them for £150 earlier
in the year.

Very pleased with mine, does everything I need it to, even though it
doesn't get much use.
--
Sean Black

mo

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Apr 21, 2006, 4:50:15 PM4/21/06
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I have TomTom5 on my PDA.

Its pretty good - always gets you there. It has some useful features such as
being able to see the whole journey before you do it - and of course you can
use it for speed cameras .

The touchscreen is good... certainly from a PDA point of view you don't want
to have to get the stylus out everytime you want to do something when you
are in the car and the thing is on the mount.

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Gaz

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Apr 21, 2006, 5:25:11 PM4/21/06
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Angus Manwaring wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I've never had a Sat Nav, and if I get one it won't get a lot of use, but
> after the "navigational discussion" my wife and I had on the way back from
> an otherwise very nice holiday, I think it would probably be worth it.
>
> I've sort of focussed on the tomtom one a bit, although I'm not mad about
> the touchscreen thing, it just seems kind of..... wrong.
>
> That aside, I'm a clueless newbie so I'd be interested to collect any
> opinions/experience/advice/abuse from you guys. :)
>
> Cheers.
>

Tomtom is an excellent product, i have the pda version, the full postcode
look up is superb, i travel round a very rural area visting peoples homes,
and this is invaluable.

Gaz


mo

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Apr 21, 2006, 6:00:11 PM4/21/06
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"guv" <gu...@msn.com> wrote in message
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> However, we went to visit friends further south in a place called
> "Jupiter". New roads and housing are being built almost daily. BUT, it
> kept trying to send me on roads that didnt exist and to shops that
> didnt exist at a particular location. Not so good! I havent however
> found that to be the case in the UK - not that I use it much here.
>


I have had it trying to send me down roads you cant turn into - maybe
because the junction rules have changed and it hasnt updated or something.


Dr Zoidberg

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Apr 21, 2006, 6:16:22 PM4/21/06
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Angus Manwaring wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I've never had a Sat Nav, and if I get one it won't get a lot of use,
> but after the "navigational discussion" my wife and I had on the way
> back from an otherwise very nice holiday, I think it would probably
> be worth it.
>
I've only ever used TomTom on a PDA and it's a cracking bit of kit.
There are some habits that satnav systems have like occasional unusual
choices of route but if you treat them as an aid rather than blindly
following prompts inspite of what your eyes are telling you then you'll be
fine.

I know I'd certainly miss mine a lot now

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Gary Lightfoot

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Apr 21, 2006, 7:20:43 PM4/21/06
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Angus Manwaring wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I've never had a Sat Nav, and if I get one it won't get a lot of
use,
> but after the "navigational discussion" my wife and I had on the way
> back from an otherwise very nice holiday, I think it would probably
> be worth it.
>
> I've sort of focussed on the tomtom one a bit, although I'm not mad
> about the touchscreen thing, it just seems kind of..... wrong.
>
> That aside, I'm a clueless newbie so I'd be interested to collect
any
> opinions/experience/advice/abuse from you guys. :)

I needed one for occasional use so didn't want to spend a lot if I
could help it. I too ended up with a Garmin i3 from eBay and although
not perfect it works well IMHO and did a great job saving us 20 mins
on a journey to a relatives new house (a previous non i3 aided journey
was that much longer using a different route), so I've been very
pleased with it so far.

The size was also a selling point for me fo the same reasons Nige
mentions - I didn't want to have to carry around a larger sat nav and
this is small and unobtrusive to fit into a pocket or other half's
purse/hand bag. I think they're £129 from Halfords now but you could
try your luck and get it for less on eBay like I did,

Gary.


Tinkapace

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Apr 22, 2006, 3:28:20 AM4/22/06
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I have a Tomtom 300 and think its amazing

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Nige

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Apr 22, 2006, 7:29:22 AM4/22/06
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guv wrote:
> On Sat, 22 Apr 2006 12:23:51 +0100, guv <gu...@msn.com> wrote:
>
>
>> One very annoying thing I have with mine (Holux Sirf II receiver Ipaq
>> 5450 PDA) is the fact occasionally, the receiver doesnt seem to fire
>> up and locate sats. Usually I have to keep resetting (rebooting) - and
>> even then, its not always successful. Mostly, it doesnt matter (cos it
>> just eventually kick in), but if you need it to be 100% from the
>> start, my own one is unreliable.
>
>
> Actually - just remembered - I had this exact problem when I drove up
> to Nige's place to pick up a TV. Ended up phoning! That was after I
> had been using it all the way from Kent....and if packed up in
> Bradford - where I really DID need it!
>
> As I say, I think its just a fault in my system - and not a general
> thing....unless anyone knows any different?

You still got that TV matey?

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/\/\arc

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Apr 22, 2006, 3:47:30 PM4/22/06
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> Angus, i have had a tomtom & they arent that good. Crap old maps etc. I
> bought myself a Garmin v3i for £100 & it is miles better. Smallerwith good
> maps & with speed cams uploaded just as good in every way i have found.
>
> They are also very small so you can take the whole thing off the screen so
> no giveaway mount for the scumbag teefs.
>
> I recommend one.
>
I'll second that recommendation. Just got back off a roadtrip to North Wales
from Portsmouth via Nottingham and it coped with everything I threw at it.
My missus has even started calling it Susan for no apparent reason ;)

/\/\arc


Andy F Batter

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Apr 22, 2006, 5:32:15 PM4/22/06
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"Tinkapace" <tp...@nospamblueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message

>I have a Tomtom 300 and think its amazing

Another happy TomTom 300 user here.

It's not without a few petty faults. Notably it tried to send me to my
dad's down a footpath by the river, and that's road has had bolloards
concreted in for 20 years or more now to stop cars accessing it. Still,
it's a handy thing to have, even if I make not nearly enough journeys to
justify owning the thing.


Angus Manwaring

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Apr 23, 2006, 4:59:05 AM4/23/06
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On 21-Apr-06 22:16:22, Dr Zoidberg said

>Angus Manwaring wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I've never had a Sat Nav, and if I get one it won't get a lot of use,
>> but after the "navigational discussion" my wife and I had on the way
>> back from an otherwise very nice holiday, I think it would probably
>> be worth it.
>>
>I've only ever used TomTom on a PDA and it's a cracking bit of kit.
>There are some habits that satnav systems have like occasional unusual
>choices of route but if you treat them as an aid rather than blindly
>following prompts inspite of what your eyes are telling you then you'll be
>fine.

>I know I'd certainly miss mine a lot now

Cheers Alex - Yes, I've heard they are still a long way from perfect.

Probably a daft question coming up....

They don't show public footpaths, do they?

BTW, thanks for all the responses, guys.

Angus Manwaring

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Apr 23, 2006, 4:54:19 AM4/23/06
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On 21-Apr-06 19:19:40, Sean Black said

>In message <757.337T893T10904808angus@angusm_ANTISPEM_.demon.co.uk>,
>Angus Manwaring <angus@angusm_ANTISPEM_.demon.co.uk> writes
>>
>>Hi all,
>>
>>I've never had a Sat Nav, and if I get one it won't get a lot of use, but
>>after the "navigational discussion" my wife and I had on the way back from
>>an otherwise very nice holiday, I think it would probably be worth it.
>>
>Hehe, exactly the reason I got one :-)

It seems to be quite a common phenomenon, and I've seen it used in their
sales pitch a fair amount. :)

>I bought a NavMan icn510 last year, I think they've bought out an
>updated model now though. I know Tesco were doing them for £150 earlier
>in the year.

>Very pleased with mine, does everything I need it to, even though it
>doesn't get much use.

Thanks Sean, appreciate the info.

Angus Manwaring

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Apr 23, 2006, 4:56:19 AM4/23/06
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On 21-Apr-06 18:14:13, Nige said

>Angus, i have had a tomtom & they arent that good. Crap old maps etc. I
>bought myself a Garmin v3i for

>£100 & it is miles better. Smallerwith good maps & with speed cams uploaded


>just as good in every way i have found.

>They are also very small so you can take the whole thing off the screen so no
>giveaway mount for the scumbag teefs.

>I recommend one.

Cheers for that Nige, I will do some more research on Garmins.

Are you still hanging in there with the Strat?

Dr Zoidberg

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Apr 23, 2006, 5:53:07 AM4/23/06
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Angus Manwaring wrote:
> On 21-Apr-06 22:16:22, Dr Zoidberg said
>> Angus Manwaring wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I've never had a Sat Nav, and if I get one it won't get a lot of
>>> use, but after the "navigational discussion" my wife and I had on
>>> the way back from an otherwise very nice holiday, I think it would
>>> probably be worth it.
>>>
>> I've only ever used TomTom on a PDA and it's a cracking bit of kit.
>> There are some habits that satnav systems have like occasional
>> unusual choices of route but if you treat them as an aid rather than
>> blindly following prompts inspite of what your eyes are telling you
>> then you'll be fine.
>
>> I know I'd certainly miss mine a lot now
>
> Cheers Alex - Yes, I've heard they are still a long way from perfect.
>
> Probably a daft question coming up....
>
> They don't show public footpaths, do they?
>
Not really , but they do (well TomTom does) seem to be aware of a lot of
"off road" areas like roads through car parks , service stations and the
like. I was quite surprised when it could show me all the roads in the
grounds of a couple of national trust sites I've visited recently.

Nige

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Apr 23, 2006, 6:38:28 AM4/23/06
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Angus Manwaring wrote:
> On 21-Apr-06 18:14:13, Nige said
>
>> Angus, i have had a tomtom & they arent that good. Crap old maps etc. I
>> bought myself a Garmin v3i for
>> £100 & it is miles better. Smallerwith good maps & with speed cams uploaded
>> just as good in every way i have found.
>
>> They are also very small so you can take the whole thing off the screen so no
>> giveaway mount for the scumbag teefs.
>
>> I recommend one.
>
> Cheers for that Nige, I will do some more research on Garmins.
>
> Are you still hanging in there with the Strat?

Can't hack the leccy at all. The Fender acoustic i got is ace. I can actually play a tune on it!!

I reckon i'm more an acoustic than i thought!!

Nige


Colin Wilson

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Apr 23, 2006, 6:47:38 AM4/23/06
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> They don't show public footpaths, do they?

You can get topo maps that will probably give you an idea of public
footpaths, but i`ve never used them... Garmin have a map viewer on their
site, so you should (in theory) be able to check out some known paths to
see if they`re listed.

As for the cost - mine was over £700 at the time :-/ and then I found
Garmin don`t sell european maps to european customers - they force you
to buy hardware with it "bundled".

I set up my own little protest about it, but Pipex have had some
problems with their webhosting for the last week, so it`ll be offline...

Lets just say it was cheaper for me to buy http://www.garminsuck.com and
a bundle with maps than to buy maps alone.

Angus Manwaring

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Apr 23, 2006, 2:30:01 PM4/23/06
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On 23-Apr-06 10:38:28, Nige said

I'm the opposite. I've never had a decent acoustic, but most of the ones
I've tried I find difficult to hold the strings down and just trickier to
play than an electric. Having said that I'd love to be able to play an
acoustic well - maybe try and sort out some of those Robert Johnson blues.

:)

Oh, sorry that should probably be a

:(

purple pete

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Apr 24, 2006, 6:48:38 PM4/24/06
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Not really , but they do (well TomTom does) seem to be aware of a lot of
"off road" areas like roads through car parks , service stations and the
like. I was quite surprised when it could show me all the roads in the
grounds of a couple of national trust sites I've visited recently.


My tom tom even knows the route "within" the graveyard (paths within it are
mapped) that I visit. so much so it takes me right to the grave itself!


Kevin Reilly

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Apr 25, 2006, 2:38:17 AM4/25/06
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On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 purple pete wrote:

>My tom tom even knows the route "within" the graveyard (paths within it are
>mapped) that I visit. so much so it takes me right to the grave itself!

Impressive, but I can't see it taking off as a new marketing slogan.

"TomTom Navigator: takes you straight to the grave itself!"

Although judging by the news stories of idiots blindly following sat-nav
through fords half the depth of their cars, it's possibly quite
prophetic.

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purple pete

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Apr 25, 2006, 4:16:02 AM4/25/06
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Puts the hairs on the back of my neck up when i get there and it says "you
have arrived at your destination"
Maybe it could say "u have arrived at your destiny"


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