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Mark - The Anime CD

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May 11, 2001, 2:43:20 PM5/11/01
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Those are the words quoted from Joe Curzon (http://www.anime.org.uk/digital). Who thinks out of a population of 60 million people in the UK there are only 500 real anime fans?
 
Do you agree with this? You have to take into account what you consider a "real" anime fan is. Are we talking about the person who tunes in every week to watch Dragonball Z? Or are we referring to those that spend £1000s on anime related items?
 
To me a real anime fan is someone who regularly watches anime, who also collects anime merchandise, whether videos or posters. Who would attend the odd convention if there was one nearby. If you have various anime posters all over you wall, t-shirts and a shelf of animes are you a real anime fan, or do you go under the category of an "occasional anime viewer".
 
I think that there are a lot more than 500 real anime fans, even if you only referred to people who spend their life living and breathing anime there are still over 500. About 16000 people bought Manga Max. Anyone desperate enough to buy that must be a real anime fan as it wasn't worth the paper it's printed on and many were proud to let others know that they never once in their life purchased it.
 
In my small little town including myself I counted about 12 "real" anime fans. Not including the mates off the internet. Bearing in mind my town is rather small and doesn't even have a McDonalds (that's bad).
 
Are you guys the other 488? Or don't you consider yourself a real fan? Someone has to buy all Manga's, ADV, MVM et all.
Do UP1, otaku publishing, worlds apart, Sheffield space centre, forbidden planet, sci fi warehouse, the comic warehouse only get 500 real anime fan customers?
 
Maybe I'm wrong, maybe there are only 500 real anime fans. Maybe I'm not one myself. Maybe you're not one. If we're not real fans then who and where are these 500 real anime fans?
 
I'm just asking for your view, I'm not saying I am right and anyone who thinks otherwise is wrong. Joe made an interesting comment, maybe right maybe wrong, what do you think?
 
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Mark - The Anime CD

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May 11, 2001, 4:21:34 PM5/11/01
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Well I talked about this with a few people. Failing to note that the 16,000 included purchases outside the UK so the actual number isn't 16,000 but I don't think it's under 8000.
 
Some people said you can be a real anime fan without having to spend £1000s. Noting that not everyone has so much money to waste. Others said that not everyone has enough free time to devote their lives to anime. We have work, school, college and university to consider.
 
Or maybe he was referring to otakus, would you consider a real anime fan an otaku? Bearing in mind that you don't have to like anime to be an otaku. Otaku No Video?
 
One example would be my girlfriends best friend. She absolutely adores anime, does she have any mangas? No! Does she have 100 of animes? Only a few official. Does she go to conventions? No! Then what does she do?
 
Her parents don't work, she can't afford to buy imported animes, she can't afford to get animes in her local retailers. She's be cursed with cable and therefore can't get all the channels with animes on other services on Sky. However she takes every opportunity to visit her friends houses, watch all their animes, even get them to tape those animes she cannot even watch on British TV. She even goes as far to stick Dragonball Z tattoos in awkward places because she has an unhealthy fascination with Vegeta.
 
Is she a real anime fan? She's seen over 200 titles, she only owns a few videos and no merchandise except for a few. I think she is, she can match anyone in here with her knowledge of anime, it almost surpasses mine.
 
That should make you think if you assume only real anime fans are those with an endless supply of money.

Justin Palmer

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May 11, 2001, 4:48:32 PM5/11/01
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In article <001201c0da4a$53e00800$a6aa403e@blueguy>, Mark - The Anime CD
<ma...@theanimecd.com> writes

> Those are the words quoted from Joe Curzon (
> http://www.anime.org.uk/digital). Who thinks out of a population of
> 60 million people in the UK there are only 500 real anime fans?

Its true. All the others are Evil Android Kami-Otakus, created
by a criminal mastermind to gradually wipe out all true anime fans in
the UK and convince the World that there is only one cartoon about a
young girl who fights monsters with magical playing cards, and its name
is Card Captors.

(sorry for the rather flippant tone, not personal, just been
that kind of week... )

(snip)

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Shez

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May 11, 2001, 9:49:20 PM5/11/01
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Mark - The Anime CD <ma...@theanimecd.com> wrote:
>Those are the words quoted from Joe Curzon (http://www.anime.org.
>uk/digital). Who thinks out of a population of 60 million people in the
>UK there are only 500 real anime fans?

I just checked and I'm no. 501.

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"Mark - The Anime CD"(ma...@theanimecd.com) added:

> To me a real anime fan is someone who regularly watches anime,
> who also collects anime merchandise, whether videos or posters.
> Who would attend the odd convention if there was one nearby. If
> you have various anime posters all over you wall, t-shirts and a
> shelf of animes are you a real anime fan, or do you go under the
> category of an "occasional anime viewer".

<looks around room> Hmmm, anime posters on walls; large cupboard
full of anime VHS & DVDs; shelves containing graphic novels, manga
anthologies, magazines, artbooks and anime models; CD rack full of
anime soundtracks. I guess I'm one of those 'real anime fans'. ^_^

> Do UP1, otaku publishing, worlds apart, Sheffield space centre,
> forbidden planet, sci fi warehouse, the comic warehouse only get
> 500 real anime fan customers?

I'm not sure about Otaku, but I think you'll find all the other
stores sell a lot of non-anime stuff as well. ^_^


== Peter ==

Stephen Moore

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May 12, 2001, 7:01:47 AM5/12/01
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The ID badge I got when I passed the "Anime Challenge of Death" says
#542. So I think his statistics must be out of date.

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Joe Curzon

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"Mark - The Anime CD" wrote in a bulky HTML message
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>Those are the words quoted from Joe Curzon
(http://www.anime.org.uk/digital). Who >thinks out of a population of 60
million people in the UK there are only 500 real anime >fans?

What?
Now that is funny, not only do you quote a private correspondence, you also
misquote me. Hardly the attitude I would expect from someone who is about to
launch a publication.

What I actually said was:
"Remember it is estimated that their are only 500 "real" anime fans in the
UK."

This does not necessarily mean that I agree with that estimate. I feel it
reflects how badly some people think the UK anime scene is doing at the
moment. I was using to explain to you the (until recently lack) of anime in
the UK.

If you read my article in the MinamiCon handbook you would probably know my
opinion is more optimistic.

Joe Curzon
Anime Digital - http://www.anime.org.uk/digital
The Pirate Anime FAQ - http://www.anime.org.uk/digital/piratefaq.html


Stuart Dawson

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May 12, 2001, 1:28:54 PM5/12/01
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On Fri, 11 May 2001 18:43:20 +0000 (UTC), ma...@theanimecd.com ("Mark -
The Anime CD") wrote:

>Those are the words quoted from Joe Curzon (http://www.anime.org.uk/
>digital). Who thinks out of a population of 60 million people in the
>UK there are only 500 real anime fans?

Well evidently he didn't say this but I'd be tempted to agree with the
statement. The actual number may be slightly higher but the shear
scale of Population vs Anime Fans is undoubtedly vast.

I'd class a *real* anime fan as someone willing to go to some absurd
lengths to acquire some desired piece of tat. There's a hell of a lot
more of the regular anime fans of course but how many of them are
willing to go that one step beyond sanity? ^_^

>One example would be my girlfriends best friend. <snip> She even

>goes as far to stick Dragonball Z tattoos in awkward places because
>she has an unhealthy fascination with Vegeta.

She sounds like she passes all right. ^_^

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Joe Curzon

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May 12, 2001, 1:59:41 PM5/12/01
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Stuart Dawson wrote in message ...

>Well evidently he didn't say this but I'd be tempted to agree with the
>statement. The actual number may be slightly higher but the shear
>scale of Population vs Anime Fans is undoubtedly vast.

>
>I'd class a *real* anime fan as someone willing to go to some absurd
>lengths to acquire some desired piece of tat. There's a hell of a lot
>more of the regular anime fans of course but how many of them are
>willing to go that one step beyond sanity? ^_^


Indeed. Half the problem with the statement is what would you class a real
anime fan as? If we need a metric, there is always the Otaku test I
suppose - http://members.tripod.com/~tasuki/cgi-bin/animept.pl
Or we could always have a whip-round and get Mori to do a survey for us. ^_^

It is someone who has seen a lot of anime?
Owns a lot of anime?
Spends all their time talking about anime?
Is it someone who knows a lot about anime?
Someone who goes to anime conventions / clubs?

As you say going to stranges lengths to get a certain items might be a
better method.
That is a good question. To what lengths have you or anyone you know gone to
get a particular anime/manga related item? I know a couple of people who put
great effort in getting certain items, such as rare LDs, model kits, etc...

Joe Curzon
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Inu Yasha

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May 12, 2001, 4:04:59 PM5/12/01
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On Sat, 12 May 2001 18:59:41 +0100, "Joe Curzon"
<Joe-...@joec.dircon.raben-rose.co.uk> wrote:

>Indeed. Half the problem with the statement is what would you class a real
>anime fan as? If we need a metric, there is always the Otaku test I
>suppose - http://members.tripod.com/~tasuki/cgi-bin/animept.pl
>Or we could always have a whip-round and get Mori to do a survey for us. ^_^
>
>It is someone who has seen a lot of anime?
>Owns a lot of anime?
>Spends all their time talking about anime?
>Is it someone who knows a lot about anime?
>Someone who goes to anime conventions / clubs?

I'd say someone who would do all the above if there was any way they could.

>As you say going to stranges lengths to get a certain items might be a
>better method.
>That is a good question. To what lengths have you or anyone you know gone to
>get a particular anime/manga related item? I know a couple of people who put
>great effort in getting certain items, such as rare LDs, model kits, etc...
>
>Joe Curzon
>(Remove the Digi-Carat Bunny to reply)
>Anime Digital - http://www.anime.org.uk/digital
>The Pirate Anime FAQ - http://www.anime.org.uk/digital/piratefaq.html

Well after the big AnimEigo's Urusei Yatsura license expiring thing of a
while back I spent bloody ages scrouring the net for a supplier. My first
purchase outside the UK so quite a big step at the time.

Especially since I ordered about 20 tapes and knew nothing about
Customs&Excise at the time :)

Matt Barber

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May 14, 2001, 4:52:20 AM5/14/01
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There are various levels of anime fandom.

Hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of people watch shows like
Pokemon, Digimon, Monster Rancher, etc. on a regular basis. Despite
what some people think, they're as "real" as the rest of us.

Then there are tens of thousands of people who actually go out and buy
anime videos, read the magazines, stay up late to watch the Sci Fi
channel, etc. These people are, by most ordinary definitions, "real"
as well.

Then, finally, there are the 500-odd hardcore fans who amass huge
collections, run websites and fanzines, go to conventions and and post
messages about the state of anime fandom to this newsgroup.

I think that's your answer.

bye,
Matt

poster parent

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May 14, 2001, 10:23:53 AM5/14/01
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well im only just getting into anime so how long before im a true fan? sure
i started out just watching stuff on cartoon network and such but now i
spend hurs scouring the internet for information and downloads; have joined
newsgroups and am part of an anime society. i really love anime but dont yet
own any anime or manga as such. at what point will i be a "true anime fan"?
its no good being snobbish!

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""Mark - The Anime CD"" <ma...@theanimecd.com> wrote in message
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Those are the words quoted from Joe Curzon
(http://www.anime.org.uk/digital). Who thinks out of a population of 60
million people in the UK there are only 500 real anime fans?

Do you agree with this? You have to take into account what you consider a
"real" anime fan is. Are we talking about the person who tunes in every week

to watch Dragonball Z? Or are we referring to those that spend Ł1000s on

Peter Boulter

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poster parent(cd...@ukc.ac.uk) added:

> well im only just getting into anime so how long before im a
> true fan? sure i started out just watching stuff on cartoon
> network and such but now i spend hurs scouring the internet for
> information and downloads; have joined newsgroups and am part of
> an anime society. i really love anime but dont yet own any anime
> or manga as such. at what point will i be a "true anime fan"?
> its no good being snobbish!

Thinking about this I've come to the view that we can't judge if
someone is a "true anime fan" by how much anime stuff they have.
After all for many people a single disk is a major purchase and a
boxset something they have to save up for months to afford.

I think a much better 'gauge' of any fan is how much effort they
put into following their interest. I see you've joined an anime
society, joined this newsgroup and spend hours searching the Net
for information. I think those qualify you as a "true anime fan".


== Peter ==

Jonathan Weeks

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May 15, 2001, 3:14:28 AM5/15/01
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starh...@spamblock.cix.co.uk (Peter Boulter) wrote:
>I think a much better 'gauge' of any fan is how much effort they
>put into following their interest. I see you've joined an anime
>society, joined this newsgroup and spend hours searching the Net
>for information. I think those qualify you as a "true anime fan".

OK, so suppose we find out who the "true anime fans" are. Then what? Do they get
a prize? Is being a "true fan" something that the great unwashed masses should
aspire to?

Jon
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Wednesday

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May 15, 2001, 4:37:02 AM5/15/01
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Jonathan Weeks <j...@animejin.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>OK, so suppose we find out who the "true anime fans" are. Then what? Do
>they get a prize?

Why, yes. They win BABES.
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On 15 May 2001 09:37:02 +0100 (BST), Wednesday
<wedn...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:

>Jonathan Weeks <j...@animejin.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>OK, so suppose we find out who the "true anime fans" are. Then what? Do
>>they get a prize?
>
>Why, yes. They win BABES.

If only. o_O :)

Justin Palmer

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May 15, 2001, 3:46:03 PM5/15/01
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In article <MuF*RQ...@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>, Wednesday <wednsday@
chiark.greenend.org.uk> writes

>Jonathan Weeks <j...@animejin.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>OK, so suppose we find out who the "true anime fans" are. Then what? Do
>>they get a prize?
>
>Why, yes. They win BABES.

To paraphrase Calvin and Hobbes:
"It says here there are only 500 real anime fans in the UK."
"Hmm. That would explain why I don't meet many babes... "

chika

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In article <MuF*RQ...@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>,

Wednesday <wedn...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
> Jonathan Weeks <j...@animejin.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> >OK, so suppose we find out who the "true anime fans" are. Then what? Do
> >they get a prize?

> Why, yes. They win BABES.

OOO!!! I'm one! I'm one!!! :ş..

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Inu Yasha <I...@lum.coNOPSAM.uk> wrote in message
> <Joe-...@joec.dircon.raben-rose.co.uk> wrote:
> >As you say going to stranges lengths to get a certain items might be a
> >better method.
> >That is a good question. To what lengths have you or anyone you know gone to
> >get a particular anime/manga related item? I know a couple of people who put
> >great effort in getting certain items, such as rare LDs, model kits, etc...
> Well after the big AnimEigo's Urusei Yatsura license expiring thing of a
> while back I spent bloody ages scrouring the net for a supplier. My first
> purchase outside the UK so quite a big step at the time.
>
> Especially since I ordered about 20 tapes and knew nothing about
> Customs&Excise at the time :)

That sound quite painful, but probably cheaper than my first NTSC
Mail Order from Otaku. ^_^ (Wasn't my first NTSC tapes though)
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chika <miy...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message news:4a7b4053...@argonet.co.uk...

> Wednesday <wedn...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
> > Jonathan Weeks <j...@animejin.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> > >OK, so suppose we find out who the "true anime fans" are. Then what? Do
> > >they get a prize?
>
> > Why, yes. They win BABES.
>
> OOO!!! I'm one! I'm one!!! :ş..

You sure?? ^_^;


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Justin Palmer <jus...@briareos.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
> In article <MuF*RQ...@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>, Wednesday <wednsday@
> chiark.greenend.org.uk> writes
> >Jonathan Weeks <j...@animejin.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> >>OK, so suppose we find out who the "true anime fans" are. Then what? Do
> >>they get a prize?
> >
> >Why, yes. They win BABES.
>
> To paraphrase Calvin and Hobbes:
> "It says here there are only 500 real anime fans in the UK."
> "Hmm. That would explain why I don't meet many babes... "

So how many of the 500 are female?

Stephen Harris

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Stephen Moore <use...@togepi.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message news:ou5qftk6ilfurnd3i...@4ax.com...

> The ID badge I got when I passed the "Anime Challenge of Death" says
> #542. So I think his statistics must be out of date.

I was Anime UK Subscriber number 00381 (They being optimistic
with the double 00 ^_^), but that was some time ago. ^_^

Fox

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May 16, 2001, 3:56:51 AM5/16/01
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On Tue, 15 May 2001 07:14:28 GMT, j...@animejin.demon.co.uk (Jonathan
Weeks) wrote:

>starh...@spamblock.cix.co.uk (Peter Boulter) wrote:
>>I think a much better 'gauge' of any fan is how much effort they
>>put into following their interest. I see you've joined an anime
>>society, joined this newsgroup and spend hours searching the Net
>>for information. I think those qualify you as a "true anime fan".
>
>OK, so suppose we find out who the "true anime fans" are. Then what? Do they get
>a prize? Is being a "true fan" something that the great unwashed masses should
>aspire to?

I always thought ''trufan'' was an excuse for the total obsessives to
consider themselves elite in some sad way. Most of the hardcore I know
here have more sense and more of a life than to give a toss about such a
distinction.

Fox
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With few words but deep meaning
It sounds like a sneeze

Justin Palmer

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May 16, 2001, 10:07:02 AM5/16/01
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In article <9dse4b$iua$6...@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk>, Stephen Harris
<s...@sasahara-natsuki.freeserve.co.uk> writes

>Justin Palmer <jus...@briareos.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>> In article <MuF*RQ...@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>, Wednesday <wednsday@
>> chiark.greenend.org.uk> writes
>> >Jonathan Weeks <j...@animejin.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>> >>OK, so suppose we find out who the "true anime fans" are. Then what? Do
>> >>they get a prize?
>> >
>> >Why, yes. They win BABES.
>>
>> To paraphrase Calvin and Hobbes:
>> "It says here there are only 500 real anime fans in the UK."
>> "Hmm. That would explain why I don't meet many babes... "
>
>So how many of the 500 are female?

Going by UK cos-players, the question should be: how many of
them are *really* female?! ^_^

Inu Yasha

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May 16, 2001, 1:09:24 PM5/16/01
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On Wed, 16 May 2001 00:20:27 +0100, "Stephen Harris"
<s...@sasahara-natsuki.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

>Inu Yasha <I...@lum.coNOPSAM.uk> wrote in message

>> Especially since I ordered about 20 tapes and knew nothing about


>> Customs&Excise at the time :)
>
>That sound quite painful, but probably cheaper than my first NTSC
>Mail Order from Otaku. ^_^ (Wasn't my first NTSC tapes though)

Actually it all went quite smoothly. C&E didn't even touch the box, great!

Nyk Tarr

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May 16, 2001, 3:24:57 PM5/16/01
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On Tue, 15 May 2001 07:14:28 GMT in uk.media.animation.anime,
Jonathan Weeks appears to have said,

>starh...@spamblock.cix.co.uk (Peter Boulter) wrote:
>>I think a much better 'gauge' of any fan is how much effort they
>>put into following their interest. I see you've joined an anime
>>society, joined this newsgroup and spend hours searching the Net
>>for information. I think those qualify you as a "true anime fan".
>
>OK, so suppose we find out who the "true anime fans" are. Then what? Do they get
>a prize? Is being a "true fan" something that the great unwashed masses should
>aspire to?

Aye, who the hell would /want/ to be that much of a fan of anything?

'Hi I'm Nyk and I'm an animeholic'

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In article <9dse4c$iua$7...@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk>, Stephen Harris

<s...@sasahara-natsuki.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
> chika <miy...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:4a7b4053...@argonet.co.uk...
> > Wednesday <wedn...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
> > > Jonathan Weeks <j...@animejin.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> > > >OK, so suppose we find out who the "true anime fans" are. Then
> > > >what? Do they get a prize?
> >
> > > Why, yes. They win BABES.
> >
> > OOO!!! I'm one! I'm one!!! :ş..

> You sure?? ^_^;

Probably not, actually... can I have a prize anyway? ^_^

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May 16, 2001, 6:33:25 PM5/16/01
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On Wed, 16 May 2001 20:58:13 +0100, chika <miy...@argonet.co.uk>
wrote:

>> > Wednesday <wedn...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
>> > > Jonathan Weeks <j...@animejin.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>> > > >OK, so suppose we find out who the "true anime fans" are. Then
>> > > >what? Do they get a prize?
>> > > Why, yes. They win BABES.
>> > OOO!!! I'm one! I'm one!!! :ş..
>
>> You sure?? ^_^;
>
>Probably not, actually... can I have a prize anyway? ^_^

This sucks. I took my credit card bill out to one of those
new-fangled 'discotheques' and showed it to a young lady. Then,
assuming that I'd won her, ... well... I'm now banned from entering
Berkshire.

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Once upon a time Ziggy <jon.l...@btinternet.com> scribed carefully:

>:On Wed, 16 May 2001 20:58:13 +0100, chika <miy...@argonet.co.uk>


>:wrote:
>:>> > Wednesday <wedn...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
>:>> > > Jonathan Weeks <j...@animejin.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>:>> > > >OK, so suppose we find out who the "true anime fans" are. Then
>:>> > > >what? Do they get a prize?
>:>> > > Why, yes. They win BABES.

>:>> > OOO!!! I'm one! I'm one!!! :?..
>:>
>:>> You sure?? ^_^;


>:>
>:>Probably not, actually... can I have a prize anyway? ^_^
>:
>:This sucks. I took my credit card bill out to one of those
>:new-fangled 'discotheques' and showed it to a young lady. Then,
>:assuming that I'd won her, ... well... I'm now banned from entering
>:Berkshire.

No great loss to you then...^_^

Tsunami

Stephen Harris

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Inu Yasha <I...@lum.coNOPSAM.uk> wrote in message
> On Wed, 16 May 2001 00:20:27 +0100, "Stephen Harris"
> >Inu Yasha <I...@lum.coNOPSAM.uk> wrote in message
> >> Especially since I ordered about 20 tapes and knew nothing about
> >> Customs&Excise at the time :)
> >
> >That sound quite painful, but probably cheaper than my first NTSC
> >Mail Order from Otaku. ^_^ (Wasn't my first NTSC tapes though)
>
> Actually it all went quite smoothly. C&E didn't even touch the box, great!

That's lucky. Maybe the Post Office don't like to charge in the Liverpool
area. ^_^

Stephen Harris

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May 17, 2001, 6:46:20 PM5/17/01
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Justin Palmer <jus...@briareos.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
> In article <9dse4b$iua$6...@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk>, Stephen Harris

> >> >>OK, so suppose we find out who the "true anime fans" are. Then what? Do
> >> >>they get a prize?
> >> >Why, yes. They win BABES.
> >> To paraphrase Calvin and Hobbes:
> >> "It says here there are only 500 real anime fans in the UK."
> >> "Hmm. That would explain why I don't meet many babes... "
> >
> >So how many of the 500 are female?
>
> Going by UK cos-players, the question should be: how many of
> them are *really* female?! ^_^

Probably less than half, if your sure which is which. ^^;

Stephen Harris

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May 17, 2001, 6:50:12 PM5/17/01
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chika <miy...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message news:4a7bb749...@argonet.co.uk...

> In article <9dse4c$iua$7...@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk>, Stephen Harris
> > > > >OK, so suppose we find out who the "true anime fans" are. Then
> > > > >what? Do they get a prize?
> > >
> > > > Why, yes. They win BABES.
> > >
> > > OOO!!! I'm one! I'm one!!! :ş..
>
> > You sure?? ^_^;
>
> Probably not, actually... can I have a prize anyway? ^_^

Only if you vote in the UMAA poll. ^___^

Two days left, last votes excepted late Sat/Sun morning.

I've reaches the Twenties, but some notable regulars
haven't voted yet. ^_^

Tsunami

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May 18, 2001, 5:25:37 PM5/18/01
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Once upon a time "Stephen Harris"
<s...@sasahara-natsuki.freeserve.co.uk> scribed carefully:

>:Inu Yasha <I...@lum.coNOPSAM.uk> wrote in message

>:> On Wed, 16 May 2001 00:20:27 +0100, "Stephen Harris"
>:> >Inu Yasha <I...@lum.coNOPSAM.uk> wrote in message
>:> >> Especially since I ordered about 20 tapes and knew nothing about
>:> >> Customs&Excise at the time :)
>:> >
>:> >That sound quite painful, but probably cheaper than my first NTSC
>:> >Mail Order from Otaku. ^_^ (Wasn't my first NTSC tapes though)
>:>
>:> Actually it all went quite smoothly. C&E didn't even touch the box, great!
>:
>:That's lucky. Maybe the Post Office don't like to charge in the Liverpool
>:area. ^_^

The post office don't even like to deliver in the Liverpool area, they
have lost too many postmen.... ^_^

Tsunami

Rce

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May 19, 2001, 12:15:57 PM5/19/01
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What does it matter if someone's a REAL anime fan??

Truth is we're all using this group because of a shared interest so why
bother arguing over who's the biggest fan??

The worst thing that can happen to an "out there" community such as UK anime
fans is an internal split or arguments.

All that matters is that we're all like-minded. How much time/money we
devote to anime seems irrelevant to me.

Love,
Rice xxx


Joe Curzon

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May 19, 2001, 2:30:50 PM5/19/01
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Rce scribed in message <9e66tp$ucg$1...@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk>...

>What does it matter if someone's a REAL anime fan??
>
>Truth is we're all using this group because of a shared interest so why
>bother arguing over who's the biggest fan??


Exactly, it doesn't really matter. Which is why in my e-mail I emphasised
the word real, since it is often little point in defining what a real anime
fan. After all anime is hobby not a league table.

>The worst thing that can happen to an "out there" community such as UK
anime
>fans is an internal split or arguments.

Yep, I agree, things like this can often cause pointless bickering.

Joe Curzon

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May 19, 2001, 2:34:18 PM5/19/01
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Joe Curzon dizzily typed in message
<8YyN6.1881$m93.3...@news6-win.server.ntlworld.com>...

>Exactly, it doesn't really matter. Which is why in my e-mail I emphasised
>the word real, since it is often little point in defining what a real anime
>fan. After all anime is hobby not a league table.


Sorry for the incredibly bad grammar in the above sentence. I am too
tired....
I'm typing faster than my brain is thinking @_@

Peter Boulter

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May 20, 2001, 2:59:00 AM5/20/01
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Rce(ri...@elite.uk.com.NOSPAM) added:

Well said Rice. At the end of the day all that really matters is
that your a fan. How much time you spend watching and/or going to
clubs and conventions, and how much money you spend on videos,
DVDs etc is quite irrelevant.


== Peter ==

Stuart Dawson

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May 20, 2001, 2:24:00 PM5/20/01
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On Sat, 19 May 2001 17:15:57 +0100, "Rce" <ri...@elite.uk.com.NOSPAM>
wrote:

>What does it matter if someone's a REAL anime fan??
>
>Truth is we're all using this group because of a shared interest so why
>bother arguing over who's the biggest fan??

Well said.

>The worst thing that can happen to an "out there" community such as UK anime
>fans is an internal split or arguments.

Sadly with a relatively small group which draws from such a range of
people there's bound to be the odd personality clash. A certain
amount of factionalism is almost inevitable IMO. It's a shame like.

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Tsunami

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May 20, 2001, 4:36:37 PM5/20/01
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Once upon a time starh...@spamblock.cix.co.uk (Peter Boulter)
scribed carefully:

>:Rce(ri...@elite.uk.com.NOSPAM) added:

Agreed, if you take things by how long you spend watching anime per
week, a lot of people would try to discount me, as I only really watch
stuff when it is new to me, or I have friends over to watch stuff. By
that measure I hardly count at all, on the other hand as I have been
into anime/manga now for a fair bit more than 10 years, I would say
that that is not a very good yardstick. In the end, if you like that
stuff, then you are a fan.

Tsunami

chika

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May 20, 2001, 9:42:29 PM5/20/01
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In article <9e1lf7$ob1$3...@news6.svr.pol.co.uk>,

Stephen Harris <s...@sasahara-natsuki.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
> Only if you vote in the UMAA poll. ^___^

> Two days left, last votes excepted late Sat/Sun morning.

I'm stuffed then for this year. I was out of reach of a system until this
evening... soz!

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Stephen Harris

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chika <miy...@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message news:4a7de626...@argonet.co.uk...

> In article <9e1lf7$ob1$3...@news6.svr.pol.co.uk>,
> Stephen Harris <s...@sasahara-natsuki.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
> > Only if you vote in the UMAA poll. ^___^
>
> > Two days left, last votes excepted late Sat/Sun morning.
>
> I'm stuffed then for this year. I was out of reach of a system until this
> evening... soz!

If you get it too me before 20:00 today I let it in.

That's when I'll be sorting them out.

Fox

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May 21, 2001, 4:41:46 AM5/21/01
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On Sat, 19 May 2001 17:15:57 +0100, "Rce" <ri...@elite.uk.com.NOSPAM>
wrote:

>What does it matter if someone's a REAL anime fan??

I think that's pretty much the conclusion most of us have come to.

Fox
Need a new haiku
Nothing seems to spring to mind
This will have to do

Rce

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May 21, 2001, 1:33:50 PM5/21/01
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>Why, yes. They win BABES.

Ok, so when do I get BABES flocking to my door, begging me for a date??
*holds her breath in eager anticipation*


Love,
Rice xxx


Rce

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May 21, 2001, 1:36:56 PM5/21/01
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Going by UK cos-players, the question should be: how many of
them are *really* female?! ^_^

For my next con I'm planning to buck the trend and bandage up my chest and
cosplay a (probably very unconvincing male) Any suggestions (I have pretty
damn long blonde hair which I don't mind dyeing and am cursed with thick
spex, although contact lenses are an option)??

Love,
Rice xxx


Inu Yasha

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May 21, 2001, 3:29:42 PM5/21/01
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If you exclude the specs then for some reason Gourry (Slayers) springs
instantly to mind, perhaps because he's been known to cosplay a girl in
one of the episodes :)

Yoav Felberbaum

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May 21, 2001, 3:54:23 PM5/21/01
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In article <9ebkdp$6eg$1...@news6.svr.pol.co.uk>, "Rce"
<ri...@elite.uk.com.NOSPAM> wrote:

hmmm.....how about either :-
1. Allen Schezar (long blonde hair) or
2. Dryden Fassa (specs & long hair)

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Shez

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May 21, 2001, 4:32:53 PM5/21/01
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Rce <ri...@elite.uk.com.NOSPAM> wrote:
>For my next con I'm planning to buck the trend and bandage up my chest and
>cosplay a (probably very unconvincing male) Any suggestions (I have pretty
>damn long blonde hair which I don't mind dyeing and am cursed with thick
>spex, although contact lenses are an option)??

The Sailor Stars have long hair and are male in their human form.

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Stuart Dawson

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May 21, 2001, 4:42:08 PM5/21/01
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On Mon, 21 May 2001 18:36:56 +0100, "Rce" <ri...@elite.uk.com.NOSPAM>
wrote:

>For my next con I'm planning to buck the trend and bandage up my chest and


>cosplay a (probably very unconvincing male) Any suggestions (I have pretty
>damn long blonde hair which I don't mind dyeing and am cursed with thick
>spex, although contact lenses are an option)??

A short Bolt Crank from Eat Man?
What's-his-face, the club president, from Maho Tsukai Tai!
What's-his-face, the loon inventor, from My Dear Marie.

Justin Palmer

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May 21, 2001, 4:06:09 PM5/21/01
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In article <9ebkdp$6eg$1...@news6.svr.pol.co.uk>, Rce
<ri...@elite.uk.com.NOSPAM> writes

Er, if it wasn't for the glasses and the hair, I would have
recommended Miki from Utena - I *know* I'm not the only one who thought
that he was a girl until specifically mentioned otherwise in the
subtitles! ^_^
Erm, Quatre Rebera Winner? Anavel Gato? (this is what you get
for asking a mecha fan! ^_^)

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Liyang Hu

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May 21, 2001, 7:45:32 PM5/21/01
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Stuart Dawson <stu...@jingoro.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> On Mon, 21 May 2001 18:36:56 +0100, "Rce"
> <ri...@elite.uk.com.NOSPAM> wrote:
>>For my next con I'm planning to buck the trend and bandage up my
>>chest and cosplay a (probably very unconvincing male) Any
>>suggestions (I have pretty damn long blonde hair which I don't
>>mind dyeing and am cursed with thick spex, although contact
>>lenses are an option)??
> A short Bolt Crank from Eat Man? What's-his-face, the club
> president, from Maho Tsukai Tai!

Takakura Takeo-sempai? Surely you mean Aburatsubo Ayanojyou-sempai?[1]

It'll be much more interesting IMHO. <g>

> What's-his-face, the loon inventor, from My Dear Marie.

/Liyang
[1] http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Springs/4318/mtt/ashrine.html
(Don't ask. First link that came up in Google)

Liyang Hu

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May 21, 2001, 8:12:49 PM5/21/01
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Justin Palmer <jus...@briareos.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <9ebkdp$6eg$1...@news6.svr.pol.co.uk>, Rce
> <ri...@elite.uk.com.NOSPAM> writes
>>For my next con I'm planning to buck the trend and bandage up my
>>chest and cosplay a (probably very unconvincing male) Any
>>suggestions (I have pretty damn long blonde hair which I don't
>>mind dyeing and am cursed with thick spex, although contact
>>lenses are an option)??
> Er, if it wasn't for the glasses and the hair, I would have
> recommended Miki from Utena - I *know* I'm not the only one who
> thought that he was a girl until specifically mentioned
> otherwise in the subtitles! ^_^

Or you could go the /other/ way... Kurai from Angel Sanctuary. (Am
I the only person to have thought that she was a he? Going by the
artwork alone, she could have passed as either... Damn shoddy
translations! <g> ^^;;;)

/Liyang

Rce

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May 21, 2001, 8:14:44 PM5/21/01
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Serious question:

If I do try to pass myself off as a guy how do I avoid being physically
unconvincing, ie, how do I flatten my chest??

Love,
Rice xxx


Rob Anastasi

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May 22, 2001, 1:44:53 AM5/22/01
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"Rce" wrote:
> Serious question:
>
> If I do try to pass myself off as a guy how do I avoid being physically
> unconvincing, ie, how do I flatten my chest??

Micropore tape and loose clothing works well, but I'm hardly an expert
on the matter...


Rob Anastasi

Abbo

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May 22, 2001, 4:46:37 AM5/22/01
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Or ;-
3. Dick Saucer (long blonde hair, no spex)

Maybe you could do a fight sequence with Mike dressed as Mink?
--
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i...@abbott.org |*| "Konya wa shichuu kana?" -- Mink

Abbo

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On Tue, 22 May 2001 01:14:44 +0100, "Rce" <ri...@elite.uk.com.NOSPAM>
wrote:

>Serious question:
>
>If I do try to pass myself off as a guy how do I avoid being physically
>unconvincing, ie, how do I flatten my chest??

I suppose it depends on size and consistency.

Surgery?

It also depends on what you can get away with with the costume. Think
manyly pectorals and breastplates!

Wednesday

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May 22, 2001, 6:03:23 AM5/22/01
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Rce <ri...@elite.uk.com.NOSPAM> wrote:
>If I do try to pass myself off as a guy how do I avoid being physically
>unconvincing, ie, how do I flatten my chest??

NOTE: I am not speaking from much personal experience, since They're Too Big.

The advice I've been given is:

1) secure a uniboob-generating, restrain-and-flatten style sports bra;
2) then wrap an ace bandage around the resulting uniboob.

Incidentally, I'm not sure you're bucking the trend so much as going along
with it; FTM crossplay is getting pretty popular, although you see more
women going for bishounen and visual-kei genderfucky stars than anything else.
--
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Wednesday

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May 22, 2001, 6:04:27 AM5/22/01
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Rce <ri...@elite.uk.com.NOSPAM> wrote:
>Ok, so when do I get BABES flocking to my door, begging me for a date??
>*holds her breath in eager anticipation*

When you stop using Outlook Express. ;)

Yoav Felberbaum

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May 22, 2001, 2:55:28 PM5/22/01
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In article <9m9kgtk1ps851h8k3...@4ax.com>, Abbo
<i...@abbott.org> wrote:


> Or ;-
> 3. Dick Saucer (long blonde hair, no spex)
>

Er? Who?

Stephen Harris

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May 22, 2001, 3:58:58 PM5/22/01
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Yoav Felberbaum <y.m.fel...@wlv.ac.uk> wrote in message news:y.m.felberbaum-

> In article <9m9kgtk1ps851h8k3...@4ax.com>, Abbo
> > Or ;-
> > 3. Dick Saucer (long blonde hair, no spex)
> >
> Er? Who?

Someone in Dragon Half. ;p

Rob Anastasi

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May 22, 2001, 8:08:28 PM5/22/01
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"Yoav Felberbaum" wrote:
> In article <9m9kgtk1ps851h8k3...@4ax.com>, Abbo
> <i...@abbott.org> wrote:
>
>
> > Or ;-
> > 3. Dick Saucer (long blonde hair, no spex)
> >
>
> Er? Who?

From Dragon Half...

Is it me, or is DH one of the few dubs that's actually watchable?

Rob Anastasi

Abbo

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May 23, 2001, 4:57:08 AM5/23/01
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On Wed, 23 May 2001 01:08:28 +0100, "Rob Anastasi"
<rma...@cs.nott.ac.uk> wrote:

>"Yoav Felberbaum" wrote:
>> In article <9m9kgtk1ps851h8k3...@4ax.com>, Abbo
>> <i...@abbott.org> wrote:
>> > Or ;-
>> > 3. Dick Saucer (long blonde hair, no spex)
>> Er? Who?
>From Dragon Half...

Indeed.

>Is it me, or is DH one of the few dubs that's actually watchable?

I've never seen the dub, but if ADV get round to releasing it on DVD
then I might.

Nyk Tarr

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May 23, 2001, 9:36:28 AM5/23/01
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On Sun, 20 May 2001 19:24:00 +0100 in uk.media.animation.anime,
Stuart Dawson appears to have said,

>
>>The worst thing that can happen to an "out there" community such as UK anime
>>fans is an internal split or arguments.
>
>Sadly with a relatively small group which draws from such a range of
>people there's bound to be the odd personality clash. A certain
>amount of factionalism is almost inevitable IMO. It's a shame like.
>

The main problem with 'serious' fans is that they take everything so
seriously. ^_^

It really isn't that important. <G>

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Nyk Tarr

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On 22 May 2001 11:03:23 +0100 (BST) in uk.media.animation.anime,
Wednesday appears to have said,

>Rce <ri...@elite.uk.com.NOSPAM> wrote:
>>If I do try to pass myself off as a guy how do I avoid being physically
>>unconvincing, ie, how do I flatten my chest??
>
>NOTE: I am not speaking from much personal experience, since They're Too Big.
>
>The advice I've been given is:
>
>1) secure a uniboob-generating, restrain-and-flatten style sports bra;
>2) then wrap an ace bandage around the resulting uniboob.
>
>Incidentally, I'm not sure you're bucking the trend so much as going along
>with it; FTM crossplay is getting pretty popular, although you see more
>women going for bishounen and visual-kei genderfucky stars than anything else.

I suspect an English influence, although I'm sure I read somewhere that the
Japanese have a similar liking for cross-dressing. This is in a context of
role reversal rather than transvestitism per-se and cos-pa is certainly a
ritual. It presumably helps that the Japanese ideal of male beauty is
awfully close to the female.

Rce

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May 23, 2001, 3:39:05 PM5/23/01
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Maybe you could do a fight sequence with Mike dressed as Mink?

Not a chance...Mike would take the opportunity to beat me senseless with a
big stick or similar.

Love,
Rice xxx


Rce

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May 23, 2001, 3:44:08 PM5/23/01
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AARRGGHH!!

Mike has offered to flatten my chest with gaffer tape...Might work but will
hurt on removal.

Love,
Rice xxx


Rce

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May 23, 2001, 3:46:05 PM5/23/01
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Wednesday,

I KNOW Outlook Express sucks, but I'm having "issues" with Free Agent at the
moment.

Love,
Rice xxx


Leon B Bullock

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May 23, 2001, 5:19:59 PM5/23/01
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"Inu Yasha" <I...@lum.coNOPSAM.uk> wrote in message
news:a1d5gt0f51c73plkr...@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 16 May 2001 00:20:27 +0100, "Stephen Harris"
> <s...@sasahara-natsuki.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >Inu Yasha <I...@lum.coNOPSAM.uk> wrote in message
>
> >> Especially since I ordered about 20 tapes and knew nothing about
> >> Customs&Excise at the time :)
> >
> >That sound quite painful, but probably cheaper than my first NTSC
> >Mail Order from Otaku. ^_^ (Wasn't my first NTSC tapes though)
>
> Actually it all went quite smoothly. C&E didn't even touch the box, great!
When I did that, I did it from a fansubber, and never heard from the guy again.
After a while he stopped answering the emails.
About 40 tapes ($200) of various stuff :(

--
MICROsoft, QUANTUM leap....
Someone should teach these advertisers just exactly
what these words really mean.

Leon B Bullock

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May 23, 2001, 5:21:30 PM5/23/01
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"Inu Yasha" <I...@lum.coNOPSAM.uk> wrote in message
news:q3rigtknp190fk1gq...@4ax.com...

Maybe Kenshin - how tall are you?

Leon B Bullock

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"Rob Anastasi" <rma...@cs.nott.ac.uk> wrote in message
news:9eev0v$hl8$1...@oyez.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk...

All of El-Hazard are Watchable, so is Tenchi OAV. Dunno about other Tenchi
though.

Leon B Bullock

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May 23, 2001, 5:34:37 PM5/23/01
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"Rce" <ri...@elite.uk.com.NOSPAM> wrote in message
news:9eh4ob$grb$1...@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk...

> Wednesday,
>
> I KNOW Outlook Express sucks, but I'm having "issues" with Free Agent at the
> moment.

I use OE, because it's all I've got at Uni.

Once it's set up to include message text, and you get used to cutting it from
the bottom and pasting it at the top of the reply etc. It's really easy to use.

You just go to tools, options, send and then make sure that:
1) News is set to plain text
2) Plain text is set to MIME and no encoding

Then people don't complain as much.
(I'm not having a go at you, this is just in general for all OE users)

Inu Yasha

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May 23, 2001, 6:53:25 PM5/23/01
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On Wed, 23 May 2001 22:19:59 +0100, "Leon B Bullock" <lb...@le.ac.uk> wrote:

>"Inu Yasha" <I...@lum.coNOPSAM.uk> wrote in message
>news:a1d5gt0f51c73plkr...@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 16 May 2001 00:20:27 +0100, "Stephen Harris"
>> <s...@sasahara-natsuki.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> >Inu Yasha <I...@lum.coNOPSAM.uk> wrote in message
>>
>> >> Especially since I ordered about 20 tapes and knew nothing about
>> >> Customs&Excise at the time :)
>> >
>> >That sound quite painful, but probably cheaper than my first NTSC
>> >Mail Order from Otaku. ^_^ (Wasn't my first NTSC tapes though)
>>
>> Actually it all went quite smoothly. C&E didn't even touch the box, great!
>When I did that, I did it from a fansubber, and never heard from the guy again.
>After a while he stopped answering the emails.
>About 40 tapes ($200) of various stuff :(

ick! That kinda sucks..

I trust you posted a nice big warning to the appropriate anime newsgroups
to let everyone know?

Inu Yasha

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On Wed, 23 May 2001 22:22:39 +0100, "Leon B Bullock" <lb...@le.ac.uk> wrote:

>"Rob Anastasi" <rma...@cs.nott.ac.uk> wrote in message
>news:9eev0v$hl8$1...@oyez.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk...
>> "Yoav Felberbaum" wrote:
>> > In article <9m9kgtk1ps851h8k3...@4ax.com>, Abbo
>> > <i...@abbott.org> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > > Or ;-
>> > > 3. Dick Saucer (long blonde hair, no spex)
>> > >
>> >
>> > Er? Who?
>>
>> From Dragon Half...
>>
>> Is it me, or is DH one of the few dubs that's actually watchable?
>
>All of El-Hazard are Watchable, so is Tenchi OAV. Dunno about other Tenchi
>though.

I dunno, there's a few bits of the ElHaz dub that have me cringing with
embarrasment..

It's Nowhere near the Slayers dub for that though.

Inu Yasha

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May 23, 2001, 6:56:16 PM5/23/01
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On Wed, 23 May 2001 20:44:08 +0100, "Rce" <ri...@elite.uk.com.NOSPAM> wrote:

>AARRGGHH!!
>
>Mike has offered to flatten my chest with gaffer tape...Might work but will
>hurt on removal.

Depends which way around you put the tape really... the alternative makes
the costume hard to remove tho :)

Rce

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May 24, 2001, 2:29:13 PM5/24/01
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Maybe Kenshin - how tall are you?

On tall days 5'7" but mostly 5'6"...For argument's sake I'll say 5'61/2"

Love,
Rice xxx


Ziggy

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May 24, 2001, 6:30:26 PM5/24/01
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On Wed, 23 May 2001 20:44:08 +0100, "Rce" <ri...@elite.uk.com.NOSPAM>
wrote:
>AARRGGHH!!
>
>Mike has offered to flatten my chest with gaffer tape...Might work but will
>hurt on removal.

I must try that one in clubs... ^^
--
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zurii ??? ...Japanese is haard... ZIGGY.

Wednesday

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May 25, 2001, 4:37:14 AM5/25/01
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Rce <ri...@elite.uk.com.NOSPAM> wrote:
>Mike has offered to flatten my chest with gaffer tape...Might work but will
>hurt on removal.

Do yourself a favour and put Uniboob Bra on underneath. Really.
--
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Stuart Dawson

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May 25, 2001, 1:20:12 PM5/25/01
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On 21 May 2001 23:45:32 GMT, Liyang Hu <newsgro...@nerv.cx>
wrote:

>> What's-his-face, the club president, from Maho Tsukai Tai!
>
>Takakura Takeo-sempai? Surely you mean Aburatsubo Ayanojyou-sempai?[1]

Naa. Too tall, no glasses.

>It'll be much more interesting IMHO. <g>

Well it certainly might open more avenues for a cosplay routine...

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Stuart Dawson

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May 25, 2001, 1:20:12 PM5/25/01
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On Wed, 23 May 2001 20:44:08 +0100, "Rce" <ri...@elite.uk.com.NOSPAM>
wrote:

>AARRGGHH!!


>Mike has offered to flatten my chest with gaffer tape...

<nods sagely> A wise man indeed. All problems can be solved with
gaffer tape. I hear they'll be using it in the next round of Middle
East peace talks...

>Might work but will hurt on removal.

How about wearing a plain white t-shirt and _then_ using the gaffer
tape?

Leon B Bullock

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May 29, 2001, 9:56:30 AM5/29/01
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"Rce" <ri...@elite.uk.com.NOSPAM> wrote in message
news:9ejkk4$2ka$1...@news5.svr.pol.co.uk...

> Maybe Kenshin - how tall are you?
>
> On tall days 5'7" but mostly 5'6"...For argument's sake I'll say 5'61/2"

That's about right for Kenshin, as he's a small guy with long hair. The cross
scar on the cheek you can either skip (OAV series) or a bit of makeup (TV
series). Depends on if you like smiling or glowering. Just don't use a real
sword - even blunt. Best bet would be a cardboard one with a bit of wire
coathanger in the middle.

Leon B Bullock

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May 29, 2001, 9:58:50 AM5/29/01
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"Inu Yasha" <I...@lum.coNOPSAM.uk> wrote in message
news:fqfogt40l4ivp39fr...@4ax.com...
No. He was a seller on Ebay.com. I failed to get the bid, and he contacted me
afterwards. Ebay have all kindsa warnings about that anyway. I look up his ID
on Ebay now and again, but either he aint there any more, or he's under a
different name.

chika

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May 29, 2001, 1:57:53 PM5/29/01
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In article <9eh4kl$2i9$1...@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk>, Rce

<ri...@elite.uk.com.NOSPAM> wrote:
> Mike has offered to flatten my chest with gaffer tape...Might work but
> will hurt on removal.


<RRRRRIP!>

"Scuse me, is this boob yours?"

Stuart Dawson

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May 30, 2001, 9:53:26 AM5/30/01
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On Tue, 29 May 2001 14:56:30 +0100, "Leon B Bullock" <lb...@le.ac.uk>
wrote:

[Kenshin cosplay]


>Just don't use a real sword - even blunt.

Why not? You don't have to draw it from it's sheath and it would look
a lot better than any sort of fake one.

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Tsunami

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May 30, 2001, 2:15:56 PM5/30/01
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Once upon a time Stuart Dawson <stu...@jingoro.demon.co.uk> scribed
carefully:

>:On Tue, 29 May 2001 14:56:30 +0100, "Leon B Bullock" <lb...@le.ac.uk>


>:wrote:
>:
>:[Kenshin cosplay]
>:>Just don't use a real sword - even blunt.
>:
>:Why not? You don't have to draw it from it's sheath and it would look
>:a lot better than any sort of fake one.

The organizers of the con would insist that the sword is wired into
the sheath, to make certain it could no be drawn under any
circumstances.

Tsunami

Mrdini

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May 30, 2001, 3:05:23 PM5/30/01
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In article <3b1538a...@news.ntlworld.com>,
tsu...@nospam.jyurai.co.uk (Tsunami) wrote:

*nods* So they should. Even a kendo stick or a bokuto (I think that's
the name for a fake katana) can seriously hurt or even kill.

--
Yoav Felberbaum
E-Mail: y.m.fel...@wlv.ac.uk

Leon B Bullock

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May 31, 2001, 11:09:34 AM5/31/01
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"Mrdini" <y.m.fel...@wlv.ac.uk> wrote in message
news:y.m.felberbaum-52E...@News.CIS.DFN.DE...

Nah, they're just worried about the damage to the Hotel. If you make big holes
everywhere then next year they'll have to find another location.

Stuart Dawson

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May 31, 2001, 12:25:58 PM5/31/01
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On Wed, 30 May 2001 18:15:56 GMT, tsu...@nospam.jyurai.co.uk
(Tsunami) wrote:

>>:[Kenshin cosplay]
>>:>Just don't use a real sword - even blunt.
>>:
>>:Why not? You don't have to draw it from it's sheath and it would look
>>:a lot better than any sort of fake one.
>
>The organizers of the con would insist that the sword is wired into
>the sheath, to make certain it could no be drawn under any
>circumstances.

Are there any regulations on how big the wire has to be? Remember
that for cosplay something as small as a small bit of wire might only
be noticed by one or two people in the front row and maybe not even
then if you've got an act which can keep there attention.

Nyk Tarr

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Jun 1, 2001, 2:48:08 PM6/1/01
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On Thu, 31 May 2001 17:25:58 +0100 in uk.media.animation.anime,

Stuart Dawson appears to have said,
>On Wed, 30 May 2001 18:15:56 GMT, tsu...@nospam.jyurai.co.uk
>(Tsunami) wrote:
>
>>>:[Kenshin cosplay]
>>>:>Just don't use a real sword - even blunt.
>>>:
>>>:Why not? You don't have to draw it from it's sheath and it would look
>>>:a lot better than any sort of fake one.
>>
>>The organizers of the con would insist that the sword is wired into
>>the sheath, to make certain it could no be drawn under any
>>circumstances.
>
>Are there any regulations on how big the wire has to be? Remember
>that for cosplay something as small as a small bit of wire might only
>be noticed by one or two people in the front row and maybe not even
>then if you've got an act which can keep there attention.
>

Can all cosplayers please give up on the 'acting'.

Stuart Dawson

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Jun 2, 2001, 1:56:56 PM6/2/01
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On Fri, 1 Jun 2001 19:48:08 +0100, tan...@giantx.demon.co.uk (Nyk
Tarr) wrote:

>>Are there any regulations on how big the wire has to be? Remember
>>that for cosplay something as small as a small bit of wire might only
>>be noticed by one or two people in the front row and maybe not even
>>then if you've got an act which can keep there attention.
>
>Can all cosplayers please give up on the 'acting'.

Or, at the very least, the 'bad acting'. ^_^

Nyk Tarr

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Jun 4, 2001, 4:12:29 PM6/4/01
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On Sat, 02 Jun 2001 18:56:56 +0100 in uk.media.animation.anime,

Stuart Dawson appears to have said,
>On Fri, 1 Jun 2001 19:48:08 +0100, tan...@giantx.demon.co.uk (Nyk
>Tarr) wrote:
>
>>>Are there any regulations on how big the wire has to be? Remember
>>>that for cosplay something as small as a small bit of wire might only
>>>be noticed by one or two people in the front row and maybe not even
>>>then if you've got an act which can keep there attention.
>>
>>Can all cosplayers please give up on the 'acting'.
>
>Or, at the very least, the 'bad acting'. ^_^
>

I know I shouldn't say 'but it's all bad'...

Rice

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Jun 4, 2001, 8:47:48 PM6/4/01
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Mr Dawson scribed:

[Kenshin cosplay]
>Just don't use a real sword - even blunt.

Why not? You don't have to draw it from it's sheath and it would look
a lot better than any sort of fake one.

#Yeah!! I want a real weapon...No point otherwise and I need something to
scare Mike with...Not easy having power over someone that size :-)

Love,
Rice xxx


Leon B Bullock

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Jun 5, 2001, 10:28:46 AM6/5/01
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"Nyk Tarr" <tan...@giantx.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:20010601184808....@giantx.demon.co.uk...
(SNIP)

> Can all cosplayers please give up on the 'acting'.

Why?

Stephen Harris

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Jun 5, 2001, 6:33:54 PM6/5/01
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Nyk Tarr <tan...@giantx.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
> Stuart Dawson appears to have said,
> >On Wed, 30 May 2001 18:15:56 GMT, tsu...@nospam.jyurai.co.uk
> >>>:[Kenshin cosplay]
> >>>:>Just don't use a real sword - even blunt.
> >>>:
> >>>:Why not? You don't have to draw it from it's sheath and it would look
> >>>:a lot better than any sort of fake one.
> >>
> >>The organizers of the con would insist that the sword is wired into
> >>the sheath, to make certain it could no be drawn under any
> >>circumstances.
> >
> >Are there any regulations on how big the wire has to be? Remember
> >that for cosplay something as small as a small bit of wire might only
> >be noticed by one or two people in the front row and maybe not even
> >then if you've got an act which can keep there attention.
> >
>
> Can all cosplayers please give up on the 'acting'.

You're telling me that's not their usual persona's!

<sound of floor cracking>

Noooooooo.....

I fought it was real.... I mean it's sooo realistic. ^_^
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