Yaoi Manga-Please go to a.b.p.e.a.
Paul Morten
Although seemingly harmless in the eyes of posters like Wednesday it
is,nonetheless,pornography and has no place here.
Anime and manga have always had a bad reputation in Britain,and it is
only since the appearance of Pokemon and Digimon that these attitudes
have softened.
If children who use this newsgroup to seek out Pokemon info start
getting curious about all these Y-manga references then its pretty
obvious where that will lead.
Enraged parents will be calling on all i.s.p.'s to block all anime/manga
newsgroups and the media will have a field day,much to our detriment.
There are plenty of adult-manga newsgroups so please restrict your
posting to them.
P. Morten ( B.Sc )
Lee Johnson
>
Prepare for a heated debate Mr Morten. (Replace "heated debate" with
"all out flame war" actually) BTW, I do not think there us anything in
the group charter which disallows discussion of hentai, etchi, or any
other forms of animated pornography here. (IIRC that is, it's been a
long time since i read it). Another thing, this NG has been around for
quite a while without "Enraged parents" threatening it's existence. Oh,
for f--- sake, you've got me started now, and i don't even watch the
stuff.
LJ
lawre...@lineone.net
http://website.lineone.net/~lawrencium
(Ghibli DVD comparisons and various articles)
Burning Corpse
But this is a newsgroup, not an advert...
Stuart Gale
<pmo...@hotmail.com> writes
>Anime and manga have always had a bad reputation in Britain,and it is
>only since the appearance of Pokemon and Digimon that these attitudes
>have softened.
I've seen no sign in that at all.
>If children who use this newsgroup to seek out Pokemon info start
>getting curious about all these Y-manga references then its pretty
>obvious where that will lead.
1. They'll have to know what manga are in the first place.
2. For a kid to buy a copy would be next to impossible, even assuming
they knew where to go (unless you think that credit cards are handed out
like confetti to juveniles).
3. In your wisdom, you've just supplied them with a pointer to find
images that are *FAR* worse than any you would see in a yaoi manga. So
who's the idiot?!
>Enraged parents will be calling on all i.s.p.'s to block all anime/manga
>newsgroups and the media will have a field day,much to our detriment.
>There are plenty of adult-manga newsgroups so please restrict your
>posting to them.
>
>P. Morten ( B.Sc )
^^^^
So what?
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Abbo
wrote:
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Ian Roberts
says...
"Please go to a.b.p.e.a."
Why would you go to a binaries newsgroup for a general discussion? It's
not as if we are posting pictures or even links on here to direct
sources of Yaoi manga.
> I must raise my concerns about recent posts regarding Yaoi manga.
> Although seemingly harmless in the eyes of posters like Wednesday it
> is,nonetheless,pornography and has no place here.
And what's wrong with *talking* about 'pornography' if it relates to the
subject area that you are interested in?
> Anime and manga have always had a bad reputation in Britain,and it is
> only since the appearance of Pokemon and Digimon that these attitudes
> have softened.
Well hooray for Pokemon and Digimon. You cannot ignore that with even
the most harmless of anime (e.g. CCS) you will get etchi dojinshi. Sex
has an amazing presence in the Anime world and it shouldn't be ignored.
You can't sweep it under the carpet by banning all discussion of it.
I agree that I would prefer it if people would not jump to the
conclusion that every anime show is Fist of the North Star or
Urotsukidoji but that can only happen if people actually see the stuff
that we watch. I don't think Digimon and Pokemon have softened attitudes
at all as all it proves it that Japan can produce sex, violence and the
odd fad that the West will follow like sheep.
> If children who use this newsgroup to seek out Pokemon info start
> getting curious about all these Y-manga references then its pretty
> obvious where that will lead.
It will lead to them being confused, sure. How many child Pokemon fans
know what Yaoi means? I mean, how many Pokemon fans know who Musashi and
Kojiro are? [they are the Japanese names for Jessie and James of Team
Rocket]
> Enraged parents will be calling on all i.s.p.'s to block all anime/manga
> newsgroups and the media will have a field day,much to our detriment.
> There are plenty of adult-manga newsgroups so please restrict your
> posting to them.
>
I cannot recall the last time a newsgroup caused a media storm because I
don't think one ever has. There is the odd storm-in-a-teacup like the
one you're having. Thank you for your displeasure but I assure you that
it is unnecessary.
> P. Morten ( B.Sc )
>
Ian Roberts (BA Oxf.)
[ ^^^^^^ as you seem to think this adds weight to one's
argument.)
Stuart Dawson
wrote:
TROLL! <gets out big pointy stick> Back under your bridge! Back I
say!
There's nothing wrong with some discussion and anyone with a bit of
common sense knows that newsgroups tend to be unrestrained and are not
a place for children.
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David Damerell
>Paul Morten wrote:
>>
>Prepare for a heated debate Mr Morten.
"Mr Morten", indeed; did umaa turn gullible while I was busy moving?
Remember, kiddies, always check the headers. I see six followups to "Paul
Morten", and not one bothered.
Here's some from a recent post from Pfil "fistoid" Fan;
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 00:49:15 +0100
NNTP-Posting-Host: host213-1-142-133.btinternet.com
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win98; I)
And here are those from "Paul Morten";
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 01:06:15 +0100
NNTP-Posting-Host: host213-1-142-133.btinternet.com
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win98; I)
17 minutes later, same BT Internet dialup, same newsreader, same
semiliterate style; gee, think they're the same person?
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Ian Roberts
(dame...@chiark.greenend.org.uk) says...
>
> "Mr Morten", indeed; did umaa turn gullible while I was busy moving?
> Remember, kiddies, always check the headers. I see six followups to "Paul
> Morten", and not one bothered.
>
DOH! That's me with lines and detention at the school of sensible
newsgroup posting. Ooops.
Well it allowed a bit of spleen venting, anyway.
^_^
Ian
--
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"DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS"
Inu Yasha
wrote:
>I must raise my concerns about recent posts regarding Yaoi manga.
Troll!
>P. Morten ( B.Sc )
(BullShit Champion?)
FWIW, if there isn't a .d group for the alt.binaries group referred to,
then it probably isn't appropriate to discuss things there.
Ian Roberts
says...
> plus there is that much pr0n spam on all newsgroups it's hard to get
> away from it anyway, like ' want a knob like one from legend of the
> overfiend?' etc
>
{Parental Advisory, this post is not for kids or people with BScs]
That's be pretty damn inconvenient, if you ask me. First of all you got
to kill your parents, replace your todger with a rotting purple one and
if you don't keep killing and drinking other peoples mung-juice it'll
rot away.
Not to mention the fact that you'll waste a perfectly good pair of
trousers every time you get excited and I don't find the idea of blowing
up my girlfriends with my orgasm much of a turn on.
I'll stick to my {\i1}insignificant human{\i0} phallus, thanks.
Ian
Lee Johnson
> "Mr Morten", indeed; did umaa turn gullible while I was busy moving?
> Remember, kiddies, always check the headers.
Well, we could, but it's a lot more fun this way ^_^
> Here's some from a recent post from Pfil "fistoid" Fan;
> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 00:49:15 +0100
> NNTP-Posting-Host: host213-1-142-133.btinternet.com
> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win98; I)
Win98 eh? Say no more.
eg...@notnow.com
wrote:
>I must raise my concerns about recent posts regarding Yaoi manga.
Its not like many children are going to read them anyway. I doubt
this group is read by a large number of people let alone a large
number of kids
>P. Morten ( B.Sc )
>
Anthony ( BEng )
chika
Paul Morten <pmo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I must raise my concerns about recent posts regarding Yaoi manga.
Oh re-he-he-ally...
> Although seemingly harmless in the eyes of posters like Wednesday it
> is,nonetheless,pornography and has no place here.
And who created you as manga-no-kami? Or as newsgroup moderator? Actually,
for your information, this is an open group about anime and, whatever your
taste might be toward anime in general or hentai or outright pornographic
anime might be, if it is on topic then neither you nor anyone else has the
right to restrain posting about it.
> Anime and manga have always had a bad reputation in Britain,and it is
> only since the appearance of Pokemon and Digimon that these attitudes
> have softened.
Newsflash; anime and manga has a bad rep because of hysterical, uninformed
morons and various parts of the media looking for easy headlines. If
anything, groups like this one and people such as Wednesday tend to have a
much more enlightened view and a larger repetoire than titles such as
Pokemon and Digimon, titles that have been made specifically for children
and have been emasculated to within an inch of their lives.
> If children who use this newsgroup to seek out Pokemon info start
> getting curious about all these Y-manga references then its pretty
> obvious where that will lead.
If you knew anything about Usenet, you would know that it is an open
medium for open discussion. If we moderated down all groups on the
suspicion that children might be reading, we'd all start talking like
Barney the bleedin' Dinosaur (I just lo-o-o-ove what Weird Al does to that
purple freak in his tribute to Jurassic Park!) It's about time that people
stood up to the enraged minority and the Nanny state.
> Enraged parents will be calling on all i.s.p.'s to block all anime/manga
> newsgroups and the media will have a field day,much to our detriment.
There you go again with the "our" thing. This group has been discussing
all forms of anime, whether it be ultra violent like the Overfiend stuff,
silly like Dragon Half or hentai like Rei-Rei. It has dealt with the
Sensualist, heck they've even considered Dr. Slump which ties many of the
forms discussed together, including the occasional bit of toilet or sexual
humour. So where is the outraged comment?
> There are plenty of adult-manga newsgroups so please restrict your
> posting to them.
Are there really? You mean rec.arts.anime.*? For your information, this
group was set up many years ago as a forum for British anime interest.
Some of us also subscribe over there, and if you want to try your luck
there, be my guest. However, if you want to go to a.b.p.e.a, please go.
Then we won't have to listen to your drivel.
> P. Morten ( B.Sc )
B.Sc? Which uni? And since when has this been a guarantee of anything more
than the ability to book learn? I've seen too many graduates who cannot
apply their learning to real life. Flashing your qualifications around is
no guarantee that anyone will be impressed, and since I am well associated
with graduates myself, I can only suggest that you shame them by even
attempting to force your point by using your qualifications in this way.
On your way, Pfil-fan. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
Lime
news:ppljtBAe...@fianna.demon.co.uk...
> >P. Morten ( B.Sc )
> ^^^^
> So what?
<Red Dwarf>
It's probably Bronze Swimming certificate ^-^
<\Red Dwarf>
I can't see the point of mentioning it anyway... ^-^
--
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Ian Roberts
> "Stuart Gale" <stu...@fianna.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:ppljtBAe...@fianna.demon.co.uk...
> > >P. Morten ( B.Sc )
> > ^^^^
> > So what?
>
> <Red Dwarf>
> It's probably Bronze Swimming certificate ^-^
> <\Red Dwarf>
>
Damn... I remembered that joke but forgot to put it in. Great episode.
Ian
--
How was I to know Gazpacho Soup is served cold?
Nyk Tarr
Paul Morten appears to have said,
[snipped bollocks]
>
>P. Morten ( B.Sc )
>
He's pretty desperate to start quoting his qualifications (or lack
of them) at us.
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Stuart Abbott
"Nyk Tarr" <tan...@giantx.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:slrn9mgnn6...@amiga.giantx.demon.co.uk...
> On Tue, 31 Jul 2001 01:06:15 +0100 in uk.media.animation.anime,
> Paul Morten appears to have said,
> [snipped bollocks]
> >
> >P. Morten ( B.Sc )
Bronze Swimming Certificate?? :)
Seeya....
Stu..
Ian Roberts
says...
Ahem, that joke has already been made - not to mention being obviously
nicked from Red Dwarf season 1 episode 6.
Ian
Stuart Abbott
"Ian Roberts" <i...@absolutedestiny.org> wrote in message
news:MPG.15dce4755...@news.nutshell.net...
OOppppssss..
That'll teach me not to read the whole thread first....
Oh, and it's not knicked, it's a HOMAGE, obviously...
Tee Hee
Seeya...
Stu..
Ian Roberts
says...
>
>
> Oh, and it's not knicked, it's a HOMAGE, obviously...
>
> Tee Hee
>
Cat: So what is it?
Kryten: I've never seen one before - no one has - but, I'm guessing
it's a White Hole.
Rimmer: A White Hole?
Kryten: Mm. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction, a
black hole sucks time and matter out of the universe, a white hole
returns it.
Lister: So that thing's spewing time, back into the universe?
Kryten: Precisely. That's why we're experiencing these curious
time phenomena on board.
Cat: So what is it?
Kryten: I've never seen one before - no one has - but, I'm guessing
it's a White Hole.
Rimmer: A White Hole?
Kryten: Mm. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction, a
black hole sucks time and matter out of the universe, a white hole
returns it.
Lister: So that thing's spewing time, back into the universe?
Kryten: Precisely. That's why we're experiencing these curious
time phenomena on board.
Lister: What time phenomena?
Kryten: Like just then, when time repeated itself.
Cat: So what is it?
[pause]
Cat: Only joking!
Lister: OK, so it's decided then. We consult Holly.
Cat: Hey, wait a minute! I missed the discussion!
Rimmer: We all did.
Kryten: Time is occurring in random pockets. The laws of causality
no longer apply. An action no longer leads to a consequence.
Cat: So what is it?
Kryten: I think we've experienced this period of time before, sir.
Lime
> nicked from Red Dwarf season 1 episode 6.
I think that's one I missed from the 'standard UMAA thread list'
'The one that turns into a whole bunch of Red Dwarf references' ^-^
Ian Roberts
>
> I think that's one I missed from the 'standard UMAA thread list'
> 'The one that turns into a whole bunch of Red Dwarf references' ^-^
>
I recall a year or so ago there were quite a lot of Princess Bride bride
references as well and Monty Python often gets a look in as well. Not
everything has to recur, though - I haven't heard anyone say "arrrr Jim
lad" in a while.
Ian
--
"Inconceivable!"
Ian Roberts
(i...@absolutedestiny.org) says...
> I recall a year or so ago there were quite a lot of Princess Bride bride
> references
and not to mention lots of silly typos.
Ian
Justin Palmer
<i...@absolutedestiny.org> writes
Inconceivable!
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Ian Roberts
(jus...@briareos.demon.co.uk) says...
> In article <MPG.15e0694c9...@news.nutshell.net>, Ian Roberts
> <i...@absolutedestiny.org> writes
> >On Sun, 12 Aug 2001 11:13:13 +0100, Ian Roberts
> >(i...@absolutedestiny.org) says...
> >
> >> I recall a year or so ago there were quite a lot of Princess Bride bride
> >> references
> >
> >and not to mention lots of silly typos.
>
> Inconceivable!
>
>
Pardon me Justin, but that joke was actually in my sig ^_^ Maybe I
should reiterate the whole problem around here gag repeating thing...
A white hole?
So what is it?
Ian
--
Stop that rhyming now, I mean it!
Does anybody wanna peanut?
Justin Palmer
<i...@absolutedestiny.org> writes
>On Sun, 12 Aug 2001 21:02:47 +0100, Justin Palmer
>(jus...@briareos.demon.co.uk) says...
>> In article <MPG.15e0694c9...@news.nutshell.net>, Ian Roberts
>> <i...@absolutedestiny.org> writes
>> >On Sun, 12 Aug 2001 11:13:13 +0100, Ian Roberts
>> >(i...@absolutedestiny.org) says...
>> >
>> >> I recall a year or so ago there were quite a lot of Princess Bride bride
>> >> references
>> >
>> >and not to mention lots of silly typos.
>>
>> Inconceivable!
>>
>>
>
>Pardon me Justin, but that joke was actually in my sig ^_^
Oops, sorry, I (obviously) didn't notice - er, its been a weary
couple of days and I was slightly astonished to find the Recommendations
FAQ had actually appeared when it was supposed to... ^_^
(snip)
Stuart Dawson
<i...@absolutedestiny.org> wrote:
>> >> I recall a year or so ago there were quite a lot of Princess Bride bride
>> >> references
>> >
>> >and not to mention lots of silly typos.
>>
>> Inconceivable!
>
>Pardon me Justin, but that joke was actually in my sig ^_^
<audience> Oh no it wasn't! </audience>
--
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http://www.jingoro.demon.co.uk/frame.htm
Ian Roberts
(stu...@jingoro.demon.co.uk) says...
> On Sun, 12 Aug 2001 21:17:41 +0100, Ian Roberts
> <i...@absolutedestiny.org> wrote:
>
> >> >> I recall a year or so ago there were quite a lot of Princess Bride bride
> >> >> references
> >> >
> >> >and not to mention lots of silly typos.
> >>
> >> Inconceivable!
> >
> >Pardon me Justin, but that joke was actually in my sig ^_^
>
> <audience> Oh no it wasn't! </audience>
>
>
<evilone> Oh yes it was </evilone>
It was in the sig of the original Princess Bride message, not the one
correcting my "Bride bride" typo...
As you can see below
Ian
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On Fri, 10 Aug 2001 18:32:28 +0100, Lime (Li...@Nergal.co.uk) says...
>
> I think that's one I missed from the 'standard UMAA thread list'
> 'The one that turns into a whole bunch of Red Dwarf references' ^-^
>
I recall a year or so ago there were quite a lot of Princess Bride bride
Stuart Dawson
<i...@absolutedestiny.org> wrote:
>> >Pardon me Justin, but that joke was actually in my sig ^_^
>>
>> <audience> Oh no it wasn't! </audience>
>
><evilone> Oh yes it was </evilone>
>
>It was in the sig of the original Princess Bride message, not the one
>correcting my "Bride bride" typo...
>As you can see below
<snip>
So it was in fact only in your sig on a temporary basis? Naaa that
doesn't count. ^_^
Ian Roberts
(stu...@jingoro.demon.co.uk) says...
>
> So it was in fact only in your sig on a temporary basis? Naaa that
> doesn't count. ^_^
>
>
I prefer not to be too repetitive, so if I've got a final comment to
make I put it in a sig, nothing 'default', shall we say.
Ian
--
Ah Stewart... always has to have the final word ^_^