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Tony Carroll

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Jan 8, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/8/98
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Here's a good one.

Ive just got back from the Safeway and seen "NEW PIKELETS" on sale. These
are just the old fashioned version of what everybody calls crumpets.

But in Sheffield (north) Ive always known "crumpets" as pikelets anyway,
and they are certainly not new!

Also, I have always pronounced it (rightly or wrongly) "Py-clit". Are
Safeway changing the language just because it sounds a bit rude? I think
we should be told!!
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K. Quinn

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"Tony Carroll" <REMOVEMEF...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>Here's a good one.
>
>Ive just got back from the Safeway and seen "NEW PIKELETS" on sale. These
>are just the old fashioned version of what everybody calls crumpets.
>
>But in Sheffield (north) Ive always known "crumpets" as pikelets anyway,
>and they are certainly not new!

Eh? Nay lad, pikelets are them little pancakes wi' currants in them, aren't
they?
<Mind you, I'm from L**cashire so what do I know?>

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Raffer

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Jan 8, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/8/98
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Pikelets are thinner crumpets. No bloody currants. And talking of
crumpet . . . . . . . . . .

K. Quinn wrote in message <6936gq$8g8...@leeds.ac.uk>...

Anne

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>>>>>
>>>Ive just got back from the Safeway and seen "NEW PIKELETS" on sale.
>These
>>>are just the old fashioned version of what everybody calls crumpets.
>>>
>>>But in Sheffield (north) Ive always known "crumpets" as pikelets
>anyway,
>>>and they are certainly not new!
>>
>>

>>--Pikelets are thinner crumpets. >

You are indeed correct.

When I was nothing but a lass ( a long time ago), we had a man come round
the estate (north Sheffield) on a bike and he would shout
"Pikelets/Oatcakes" in a really strange voice, it took me years to realise
what he was saying!!!

He sold the pikelets and oatcakes (which were actually crumpets) from a
basket on the front of his pushbike.

Aye - those were the days.

Anne

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Willotwisp

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Jan 9, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/9/98
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>Also, I have always pronounced it (rightly or wrongly) "Py-clit". Are
>Safeway changing the language just because it sounds a bit rude? I think
>we should be told!!
>--
>

Yes, but the name was changed from the above to allow men to be able to find
them as well!

Ian.

Tom Guest

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Jan 10, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/10/98
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As far as I am aware, the subtle distinction between crumpets and pikelets
is the same as between bread rolls and finger rolls (also known as bridge
rolls in North Yorkshire).

tomg...@bigfoot.com

pete

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Jan 10, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/10/98
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Sorry you're all wrong. They're little round doughy things, about 3
inches in diameter with loads of holes drilled in 'em. You toats 'em and
chuck whatever you want on them. They're usually white on top, and round
the edges, and brown on the bottem. Before ou toast 'em of course.

Pete ( can I have the drilled out bits?....)

Darrell Lomas

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Tony Carroll wrote in message <01bd1c5b$f47a4f60$183963c3@default>...


>Here's a good one.
>

>Ive just got back from the Safeway and seen "NEW PIKELETS" on sale. These
>are just the old fashioned version of what everybody calls crumpets.
>
>But in Sheffield (north) Ive always known "crumpets" as pikelets anyway,
>and they are certainly not new!
>

>Also, I have always pronounced it (rightly or wrongly) "Py-clit". Are
>Safeway changing the language just because it sounds a bit rude? I think
>we should be told!!

They might be crumpets to everyone else but to Sheffield folk they'll always
be pikelets1 Try them fried with the bacon and eggs! As for fishcakes, even
as close as Chesterfield fishcakes are rissoles - they call our kind
"fritters" but then, nobody outside Yorkshire can cook decent fish'n chips
anyway.
As for Henderson's Relish - that's another story!

Lerrusgerrusandsweshed!

Mike Swift

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Jan 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/11/98
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In article <34B7D9...@viper.karoo.co.uk>, pete
<pe...@viper.karoo.co.uk> writes

Nah, them's crumpets.

Mike

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Joy Hilbert

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Jan 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/11/98
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Mike Swift writes
>pete

> writes
>>Sorry you're all wrong. They're little round doughy things, about 3
>>inches in diameter with loads of holes drilled in 'em. You toats 'em and
>>chuck whatever you want on them. They're usually white on top, and round
>>the edges, and brown on the bottem. Before ou toast 'em of course.
>
>Nah, them's crumpets.
>
I can't see what this is doing on uk.l.y, since these pikelets are a
Staffordshire delicacy. They're like crumpets, only flatter and wider.
Sometimes they are baked with currants in.

Best served toasted with butter, maple syrup and spray cream, IME.

See also: oakcakes
--
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March the Mad Scientist

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In article <34B7D9...@viper.karoo.co.uk>,

pete <pe...@viper.karoo.co.uk> wrote:
They're usually white on top, and round
>the edges, and brown on the bottem. Before ou toast 'em of course.
>
They look a bit like Simon then?


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In article <69bktu$a1o...@demon.co.uk>, March the Mad Scientist
<ma...@mad.scientist.com> writes

>In article <34B7D9...@viper.karoo.co.uk>,
> pete <pe...@viper.karoo.co.uk> wrote:
> They're usually white on top, and round
>>the edges, and brown on the bottem. Before ou toast 'em of course.
>>
>They look a bit like Simon then?
>
wait till saturday young man...then we'll compare undie stains......in a
"guy to guy" kinda way of course!
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Paul Clarke

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Brought up in the Pitsmoor area of Sheffield in the 1940s/50s, we had a
man on a bicycle with pannier come round the street every Friday evening
calling out 'pikelets; oatcakes'! The pikelets which my mum used to buy
from him were indeed what everyone nowadays calls crumpets (I still call
them pikelets and I think they are still commonly referred to as such in
the Sheffield area!) The oatcakes were bigger and thinner - a bit like
French crepes - you can still buy them under the same name I think. Both
delicious toasted in front of a roaring coal fire and covered in fresh
butter! Yum Yum!
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Darrell Lomas

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Tony Carroll wrote in message <01bd1c5b$f47a4f60$183963c3@default>...
>Here's a good one.
>
>Ive just got back from the Safeway and seen "NEW PIKELETS" on sale. These
>are just the old fashioned version of what everybody calls crumpets.
>
>But in Sheffield (north) Ive always known "crumpets" as pikelets anyway,
>and they are certainly not new!
>
>Also, I have always pronounced it (rightly or wrongly) "Py-clit". Are
>Safeway changing the language just because it sounds a bit rude? I think
>we should be told!!


Crumpets will always be pikelets to us Sheffield folk - try them fried with
the bacon and eggs! What about oatcakes? surely you've not forgotten them?
As for fishcakes, even as close as Chesterfield fishcakes are rissoles but
those we know and love are called "fritters". But no-one outside Yorkshire


can cook decent fish'n chips anyway.

As for Henderson's Relish, that's another story!

Lerrusgerrusandsweshed!

D.Lomas. dlo...@zetnet.co.uk

MentorH

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Jan 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/12/98
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In article <69blha$59c$1...@roch.zetnet.co.uk>, "Darrell Lomas"
<dlo...@zetnet.co.uk> writes:

>Crumpets will always be pikelets to us Sheffield folk

Asked my Yorkshore Mom about pikelets (she's 74 and originally from Woodlands,
Adwick Le Street.) She remembers them being sold every Friday and being similar
to what Americans call pancakes. They had "holes" that the brown sugar would
run into, and were more popular during Lent. She recalled that they had a
slippery consistency, but she was a little girl and doesn't remeber what the
ingredients were. Her father worked at the Brodsworth Colliery, and she was a
radar operator during WWII for the RAF. (Dad, now deceased, was in the 8th Air
Force, and I'm proud to say his uniform is on display at the 8th Air Force
Museum in Cambridge.)
She's not directly hooked up to the internet, but she's most interested in
contributing whatever she can in the way of reminiscences from, say 1930 to
1945 in the mining area of South Yorkshire.

Redrosejan

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Jan 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/12/98
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On Sun, Jan 11, 1998 Mentor H wrote:

>She remembers them being sold every Friday and being similar
>to what Americans call pancakes.

Pikelets are nothing like American pancakes. They are, however, very similar
to American crumpets, ie larger and flatter than the traditional British
crumpet.

PS I hope you don't mind me putting my two penneth in. I come fri t'other side
o't' Pennines but this is a much more interesting newsgroup than the UK local
North West.

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Kevin Beatson

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Jan 13, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/13/98
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.
>As for Henderson's Relish - that's another story!
>
>Hendersons, oh

wi meytantayter pie, sound!

nobody in our office has ever heard of Hendersons. This is the best kept
secret in the world

Kev

Kevin Beatson

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Jan 13, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/13/98
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Sorry, but Oatcakes are the wide thin ones, you fry them in bacon fat and
have them with bacon and egg,
Pikelets are the small fat ones, you toast with "loads" of lurpak on

then, in the coronary recovery unit of the Hallamshire, you get dry toast

Kev

March the Mad Scientist

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In article <TwdkFbAh...@thegeegees.demon.co.uk>,

Simon Wilkinson <Dr...@thegeegees.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>In article <69bktu$a1o...@demon.co.uk>, March the Mad Scientist
><ma...@mad.scientist.com> writes
>>In article <34B7D9...@viper.karoo.co.uk>,
>> pete <pe...@viper.karoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> They're usually white on top, and round
>>>the edges, and brown on the bottem. Before ou toast 'em of course.
>>>
>>They look a bit like Simon then?
>>
>wait till saturday young man...then we'll compare undie stains......in a
>"guy to guy" kinda way of course!

You're on. Loser gets toasted and spread with maple syrup.


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Gems

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Jan 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/14/98
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Oh for heavens sake, people. Get a grip. A pikelet is a flat crumpet. Simple
as that. If you don't believe me go and compare pikelets to crumpets in
Tesco on Ecclesall Road Sheffield. They sell both in there... or at least
they used to.

Gems


Richard Leach

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Jan 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/15/98
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On 12 Jan 1998 17:44:32 GMT, Redrosejan
<redro...@aol.com> has written:

>On Sun, Jan 11, 1998 Mentor H wrote:
>
>>She remembers them being sold every Friday and being similar
>>to what Americans call pancakes.
>
>Pikelets are nothing like American pancakes. They are, however, very similar
>to American crumpets, ie larger and flatter than the traditional British
>crumpet.
>

I do love a good teacake/breadcake/bridge roll/barmcake/crumpet/pikelet/muffin thread.

I love the flat broad oat cakes, baked on a bak stone and hung up to
dry, but have no great success in making them at home.

Naan bread, though, is another matter! That bakes quite well, and is
*always* eaten up.

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Sheena Thornton

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Jan 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/15/98
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Whilst everyone is on the subject of hearty Yorkshire fayre. Has anybody
been to Betty's yet to sample a 'Fat Rascal'? Comments?

K. Quinn

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"Sheena Thornton" <Da...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>Whilst everyone is on the subject of hearty Yorkshire fayre. Has anybody
>been to Betty's yet to sample a 'Fat Rascal'? Comments?

Yeah. Rubbish. Like a warm rockcake, wi' cherries in it. Very
disappointing.

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Lindsay Maxwell

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Sheena Thornton wrote:
>
> Whilst everyone is on the subject of hearty Yorkshire fayre. Has anybody
> been to Betty's yet to sample a 'Fat Rascal'? Comments?

No I refuse to go in there since they stopped doing all my favourite
breads, notable the sunflower one, and started on trendy Italian ones
which they don't know how to make. I complained about it (of course) and
they said they had had lots of complaints but they did not know if they
were going to start making it again. This was nearly a year ago.

Apart from which we have an exceptional Italian baker down the Shambles
who does know how to make Italian breads.

Anyway I object to having to get my cheque book out in order to buy a
loaf of bread.

lindsay

Kevin Beatson

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No, a crumpet is a flat pikelet!

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In article <01bd21b3$734360a0$673063c3@uxledkvk>, Sheena Thornton
<Da...@btinternet.com> writes

>Whilst everyone is on the subject of hearty Yorkshire fayre. Has anybody
>been to Betty's yet to sample a 'Fat Rascal'? Comments?
>
>
Yes and it gave me Keeeeronic indigestion for hours and a full packet of
Rennies. That was in Ilkley, coupla years ago, never again.
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Emil Taitl

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Jan 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/17/98
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Hello Toni,

I am very interested indeed on the subject of "pikelets"
because, of recent days, I have been hunting in the shops (supermarkets)
for "Scottish Pancakes". All I managed to find are these "pikelets".
When I read your message I was delighted to know that you too had a
problem with the pronunciation.
If one pronounces it "py-clit" then the spelling of it is not a
problem. I have never ventured to try them!
Greetings from Mimi (better 'alf' of Emil)

P.S. By-the-way my name is pronounced as "mee-mee"!!!


In article <01bd1c5b$f47a4f60$183963c3@default>, Tony Carroll <REMOVEMEF
IRSTc...@btinternet.com> writes


>Here's a good one.
>
>Ive just got back from the Safeway and seen "NEW PIKELETS" on sale.
These
>are just the old fashioned version of what everybody calls crumpets.
>
>But in Sheffield (north) Ive always known "crumpets" as pikelets
anyway,
>and they are certainly not new!
>
>Also, I have always pronounced it (rightly or wrongly) "Py-clit". Are
>Safeway changing the language just because it sounds a bit rude? I
think
>we should be told!!


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Emil Taitl

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Jan 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/17/98
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"Bridgerolls"??
I live in Leeds but can't find them anywhere. Not even at Betty's at
Ilkley or Harrogate!
There is a similar version which is slightly longer and has no egg in
the mixture. I am not referring to the large long roll used for 'hot-
dog', etc.

Regards,
Emil

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Emil Taitl

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I quite agree, "Betty's" is overcharging.
We are lucky here in Leeds, we have the "Warsaw Stores" in Chapeltown,
formerly owned and run by Polish people. Now still in good hands, they
sell Ukrainian and Latvian bread (brown), also Italian and Jamaican
(white) bread. No loaf costs more than £1-05!
Needless to say I am a regular customer even though I have to
travel five miles for it!

Emil

In article <34BE37...@cs.york.ac.uk>, Lindsay Maxwell
<lin...@cs.york.ac.uk> writes


>Sheena Thornton wrote:
>>
>> Whilst everyone is on the subject of hearty Yorkshire fayre. Has anybody
>> been to Betty's yet to sample a 'Fat Rascal'? Comments?
>

>No I refuse to go in there since they stopped doing all my favourite
>breads, notable the sunflower one, and started on trendy Italian ones
>which they don't know how to make. I complained about it (of course) and
>they said they had had lots of complaints but they did not know if they
>were going to start making it again. This was nearly a year ago.
>
>Apart from which we have an exceptional Italian baker down the Shambles
>who does know how to make Italian breads.
>
>Anyway I object to having to get my cheque book out in order to buy a
>loaf of bread.
>
>lindsay

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Lynda & Tim Knowles

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Feb 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/11/98
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It's quite clear to me that Pikelets are merely diminutive Pike.

The only confusion of course is whether or not they contain predatory fish
or large warlike implements suitable for impaling cockneys and lancastrians
upon.

There y'go, Pikelets explained simply.....

Only jessies call crumpets pikelets!!!!

steve bolam

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In article <6bvpoi$o9m$2...@nclient3-gui.server.virgin.net>, Lynda & Tim
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Thinks your news server must be in real trouble as all the posts you
have replied to are about a month old....(dont miss the harrogate boink)
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In article <u6Z$aXAxa3...@elixir1.demon.co.uk>, steve bolam
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>>
>Thinks your news server must be in real trouble as all the posts you
>have replied to are about a month old....(dont miss the harrogate boink)

Everyone missed the Harrogate boink. Except you, that is, and we've only
got your word for that...
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steve bolam

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In article <epHdrSA8...@clint.demon.co.uk>, March the Mad Scientist
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>Everyone missed the Harrogate boink. Except you, that is, and we've only
>got your word for that...
ČČČflinches from stab in backČČČ.Guess im going to have to prove i was
there then.....how do I get a good scan of a half pint glass on a flat
bed scanner then????
will tell you when the evidence is ready mlaud

March the Mad Scientist

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In article <IbyiyKAc...@elixir1.demon.co.uk>, steve bolam
<steve...@elixir1.demon.co.uk.no.spam> writes

>In article <epHdrSA8...@clint.demon.co.uk>, March the Mad Scientist
><Ma...@clint.demon.co.uk> writes
>>Everyone missed the Harrogate boink. Except you, that is, and we've only
>>got your word for that...
>ČČČflinches from stab in backČČČ.Guess im going to have to prove i was
>there then.....how do I get a good scan of a half pint glass on a flat
>bed scanner then????
>will tell you when the evidence is ready mlaud
>
>
Buy us a pint and we'll scan them for you.

(alternatively, borrow a digital camera for the weekend:-)
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