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Martin Underwood

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Sep 2, 2001, 9:54:49 AM9/2/01
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In last Wednesday's episode of A Touch Of Frost (ITV, 8PM, Wednesday 29
August, "True Confessions"), a disused railway bridge featured prominently
in the plot - one of the characters apparently committed suicide by jumping
from it.

It looks familiar but I can't place it. I presume it's somewhere in
West/North Yorkshire, since that's where Frost is filmed. The bridge has
several stone arches and a central span of iron girders. It spans a wide
river with fields leading down to the river banks. My first thought was that
it was the Nidd viaduct, but that's completely different (black brick, over
a wooded ravine).


Dave Fawthrop

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"Martin Underwood" <martin.u...@virgin.net> wrote in message
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: In last Wednesday's episode of A Touch Of Frost (ITV, 8PM, Wednesday 29

I saw one like that only last week, but June was navigating so I have no
idea where I was. Must have been somewhere near Brodsworth Hall or Barnsley
area.

Dave F


Martin Underwood

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"Dave Fawthrop" <hyp...@hyphenologist.co.uk> wrote in message
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I've done what I should have done at the start: grabbed some pictures and
uploaded them to http://freespace.virgin.net/martin.underwood/frost.htm
(about 250 KB total download).


Møgãdöñ Jôhñ

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Sep 1, 2001, 1:48:38 PM9/1/01
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Sorry but I have no idea.

Møgãdöñ Jôhñ

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Sep 1, 2001, 1:48:43 PM9/1/01
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Very helpful.

Møgãdöñ Jôhñ

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Oh goodie. I can hardly wait to download them.

Dave Fawthrop

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"Martin Underwood" <martin.u...@virgin.net> wrote in message
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Not the Barnsley one which only had one span of girders.


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Beavis

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In article <p2tk7.34618$Nb2.5...@news2-win.server.ntlworld.com>,
"Martin Underwood" <martin.u...@virgin.net> wrote:

> I've done what I should have done at the start: grabbed some pictures and
> uploaded them to http://freespace.virgin.net/martin.underwood/frost.htm
> (about 250 KB total download).

Can't see any of the pictures - problem seems to be the leading .\ in

<img src=".\frost1.JPG"

Cheers

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Jeffrey Dahmer

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"Martin Underwood" <martin.u...@virgin.net> wrote in message
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I can't recall where the bridge is (was it the episode called "One Man's
Meat"?) but other locations for A Touch of Frost include:

Rishworth Street, Wakefield
(Damian Law's flat and car park that Florence Allott jumps off in "Fun Times
For Swingers")

Westgate Station, Wakefield (Denton railway station)

Keighley and Worth Valley Railway (also for a US Budweiser ad and Solvite
wallpaper)

Harewood House and lots more places were also used.


And did you know that the feature film "Elizabeth" used York Minster to
double as Westminster for the coronation sequence.

Does anyone know what they are currently filming near Harry Ramsdens in
Guisley - seem to have been using the pub car park for weeks now?

JD

PS: I sat next to Thora Hird while they filmed an episode of "In Loving
Memory" in Embsay - my only claim to fame. And yes she did smell of wee!


Martin Underwood

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Sep 2, 2001, 5:03:41 PM9/2/01
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"Beavis" <bea...@fuckyou.co.ukNOfeckinSPAM> wrote in message
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> In article <p2tk7.34618$Nb2.5...@news2-win.server.ntlworld.com>,
> "Martin Underwood" <martin.u...@virgin.net> wrote:
>
> > I've done what I should have done at the start: grabbed some pictures
and
> > uploaded them to http://freespace.virgin.net/martin.underwood/frost.htm
> > (about 250 KB total download).
>
> Can't see any of the pictures - problem seems to be the leading .\ in
>
> <img src=".\frost1.JPG"

Sorry. Try now! I've removed the ".\".


Martin Underwood

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"Jeffrey Dahmer" <jeffrey...@serialkiller.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> "Martin Underwood" <martin.u...@virgin.net> wrote in message
> news:SVqk7.34042$Nb2.5...@news2-win.server.ntlworld.com...
> > In last Wednesday's episode of A Touch Of Frost (ITV, 8PM, Wednesday 29
> > August, "True Confessions"), a disused railway bridge featured
prominently
> > in the plot - one of the characters apparently committed suicide by
> jumping
> > from it.
> >
> > It looks familiar but I can't place it. I presume it's somewhere in
> > West/North Yorkshire, since that's where Frost is filmed. The bridge has
> > several stone arches and a central span of iron girders. It spans a wide
> > river with fields leading down to the river banks. My first thought was
> that
> > it was the Nidd viaduct, but that's completely different (black brick,
> over
> > a wooded ravine).
>
>
> I can't recall where the bridge is (was it the episode called "One Man's
> Meat"?)

No, it was the episode called "True Confessions" (as I said above) in which
the character played by Yolanda Vazquez (from Peak Practice, The Final Cut
and One By One) was found dead in the river by the bridge, but had actually
been drowned (murdered) in the bath rather than committing suicide by
jumping off the bridge.

>but other locations for A Touch of Frost include:
>
> Rishworth Street, Wakefield
> (Damian Law's flat and car park that Florence Allott jumps off in "Fun
Times
> For Swingers")

Yes, I found this one a couple of weeks ago as I was walking up Wood Street
to check out the County Hall location used as Pitt the Planner's office in
The Beiderbecke Affair. I didn't make a special journey (I'm not *that*
sad!) but I happened to be in Wakefield.

> Westgate Station, Wakefield (Denton railway station)

Yes, I recognised this one from the final aerial shot at the end of the
episode where Frost is supposed to meet that nurse played by Lindy Whiteford
but gets sidetracked (as usual!) until it's just too late to prevent her
leaving by train.


Jeffrey Dahmer

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"Martin Underwood" <martin.u...@virgin.net> wrote in message
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> > I can't recall where the bridge is (was it the episode called "One Man's
> > Meat"?)
>
> No, it was the episode called "True Confessions" (as I said above) in
which
> the character played by Yolanda Vazquez (from Peak Practice, The Final Cut
> and One By One) was found dead in the river by the bridge, but had
actually
> been drowned (murdered) in the bath rather than committing suicide by
> jumping off the bridge.


Apologies I completely skated over the fact you had given episode details -
got the old selective reading head on tonight it seems!

I suppose grabbing an A-Z and following the Calder would be a good idea -
alas I don't have mine in the house.


Møgãdöñ Jôhñ

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Sep 1, 2001, 9:17:38 PM9/1/01
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On Sun, 02 Sep 2001 20:59:49 +0000, Beavis
<bea...@fuckyou.co.ukNOfeckinSPAM> wrote:

>In article <p2tk7.34618$Nb2.5...@news2-win.server.ntlworld.com>,
>"Martin Underwood" <martin.u...@virgin.net> wrote:
>
>> I've done what I should have done at the start: grabbed some pictures and
>> uploaded them to http://freespace.virgin.net/martin.underwood/frost.htm
>> (about 250 KB total download).
>
>Can't see any of the pictures - problem seems to be the leading .\ in

And you're complaining!?

David E. Belcher

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Sep 3, 2001, 5:13:51 AM9/3/01
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Martin Underwood wrote:
>
> It looks familiar but I can't place it. I presume it's somewhere in
> West/North Yorkshire, since that's where Frost is filmed. The bridge has
> several stone arches and a central span of iron girders. It spans a wide
> river with fields leading down to the river banks. My first thought was that
> it was the Nidd viaduct, but that's completely different (black brick, over
> a wooded ravine).

From the structural description, sounds like the one on the
Sheffield-Doncaster main line east of Mexborough (also arches + a
central girder section), which crosses the River Don as well as the
railway. Not sure of its origins, though - possibly ex-GC?

David E. Belcher

Dept. of Chemistry,
University of York

Paul Herzberg

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Sep 3, 2001, 5:29:46 AM9/3/01
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East of Mexborough. That would make it Conisbrough Viaduct, right? I've
not been back home in over a year, but the description seems about
right, apart from, perhaps, the wide river part.

There's a blurry picture of it here:

http://members.netscapeonline.co.uk/penninetrail/conisbrough.htm

Cheers

Paul

Dave Fawthrop

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Sep 3, 2001, 5:55:11 AM9/3/01
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"Paul Herzberg" <herz...@ris.at> wrote in message
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:

No not that one it only has *one* span of girders.
The one used has *two* spans of girders with a support in the middle of the
river.


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Paul Herzberg

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Dave Fawthrop wrote:

> "Paul Herzberg" <herz...@ris.at> wrote:
> : David E. Belcher wrote:
> : > Martin Underwood wrote:
> : > > It looks familiar but I can't place it. I presume it's somewhere in
> : > > West/North Yorkshire, since that's where Frost is filmed. The bridge
> has
> : > > several stone arches and a central span of iron girders. It spans a
> wide
> : > > river with fields leading down to the river banks. My first thought
> was that
> : > > it was the Nidd viaduct, but that's completely different (black brick,
> over
> : > > a wooded ravine).
> : > From the structural description, sounds like the one on the
> : > Sheffield-Doncaster main line east of Mexborough
> : East of Mexborough. That would make it Conisbrough Viaduct, right?
> No not that one it only has *one* span of girders.
> The one used has *two* spans of girders with a support in the middle of the
> river.

The *above* description says "central span of iron girders. I'm *sorry*
I'm not a *mind* reader.

*Thanks* anyway.

Cheers

Paul - emphatically

Mark Robinson

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Sep 3, 2001, 10:09:34 AM9/3/01
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Jeffrey Dahmer wrote:
>
> Westgate Station, Wakefield (Denton railway station)

So why didn't they use the real Denton station? Would have saved them
making mock-up name boards.

Cheers

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Martin Underwood

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Sep 3, 2001, 1:33:18 PM9/3/01
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"Mark Robinson" <mar...@swift.ee.umist.ac.uk> wrote in message
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> Jeffrey Dahmer wrote:
> >
> > Westgate Station, Wakefield (Denton railway station)
>
> So why didn't they use the real Denton station? Would have saved them
> making mock-up name boards.

And if they wanted a station in the West Riding, surely they could have
found a more photogenic one than Westgate. Dewsbury? Huddersfield? Keighley?
Of course if Westgate still had its tower and hadn't been rebuilt in the
sixties...


Mike Swift

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Sep 3, 2001, 2:44:09 PM9/3/01
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In article <H9Pk7.35849$wX5.4...@news6-win.server.ntlworld.com>,
Martin Underwood <martin.u...@virgin.net> writes

>And if they wanted a station in the West Riding, surely they could have
>found a more photogenic one than Westgate. Dewsbury? Huddersfield? Keighley?
>Of course if Westgate still had its tower and hadn't been rebuilt in the
>sixties...

But the fictional Denton is in the Thames Valley, it's only us locals
who recognised the local views, well some of us anyway, eh Martin :-)

Mike

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Robert Richards

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Sep 3, 2001, 7:04:28 AM9/3/01
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In message <MPG.15fd6bf2e...@news.cis.dfn.de>
Paul Herzberg <herz...@ris.at> wrote:

[snip]


> > From the structural description, sounds like the one on the
> > Sheffield-Doncaster main line east of Mexborough (also arches + a
> > central girder section), which crosses the River Don as well as the
> > railway. Not sure of its origins, though - possibly ex-GC?
>
> East of Mexborough. That would make it Conisbrough Viaduct, right? I've
> not been back home in over a year, but the description seems about
> right, apart from, perhaps, the wide river part.
>
> There's a blurry picture of it here:
>

What line did that viaduct carry, and when was it closed?

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Møgãdöñ Jôhñ

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On Mon, 03 Sep 2001 15:09:34 +0100, Mark Robinson
<mar...@swift.ee.umist.ac.uk> wrote:

>Jeffrey Dahmer wrote:
>>
>> Westgate Station, Wakefield (Denton railway station)
>
>So why didn't they use the real Denton station? Would have saved them
>making mock-up name boards.

'Cos it's a dump.

Møgãdöñ Jôhñ

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On Mon, 03 Sep 2001 12:04:28 +0100, Robert Richards
<robe...@richards44.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

>In message <MPG.15fd6bf2e...@news.cis.dfn.de>
> Paul Herzberg <herz...@ris.at> wrote:
>
>[snip]
>> > From the structural description, sounds like the one on the
>> > Sheffield-Doncaster main line east of Mexborough (also arches + a
>> > central girder section), which crosses the River Don as well as the
>> > railway. Not sure of its origins, though - possibly ex-GC?
>>
>> East of Mexborough. That would make it Conisbrough Viaduct, right? I've
>> not been back home in over a year, but the description seems about
>> right, apart from, perhaps, the wide river part.
>>
>> There's a blurry picture of it here:
>>
>What line did that viaduct carry, and when was it closed?

And who cares?

Geoff Bannister

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Sep 3, 2001, 5:25:44 PM9/3/01
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"Møgãdöñ Jôhñ" wrote:

He obviously does. He asked!!!


Paul Herzberg

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Robert Richards wrote:

> Paul Herzberg wrote:
> [snip]
> > > From the structural description, sounds like the one on the
> > > Sheffield-Doncaster main line east of Mexborough (also arches + a
> > > central girder section), which crosses the River Don as well as the
> > > railway. Not sure of its origins, though - possibly ex-GC?
> > East of Mexborough. That would make it Conisbrough Viaduct, right? I've
> > not been back home in over a year, but the description seems about
> > right, apart from, perhaps, the wide river part.
> > There's a blurry picture of it here:
> What line did that viaduct carry, and when was it closed?

Dearne Valley Railway, and 1951.

Cheers

Paul

Robert Richards

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In message <tn35pt8f2angln0bc...@4ax.com>
Møgãdöñ Jôhñ <møgãdöñjôhñ20001@hôtmail.cöm> wrote:

Me. I have an interest in railway and industrial history, and I've often
wondered about that particular viaduct when I've travelled between
Doncaster and Sheffield.
If you can't think of anything useful/polite to say then maybe you ought
not to post.

Regards

David E. Belcher

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Sep 4, 2001, 9:02:36 AM9/4/01
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Robert,

The original web page mentioned by Paul Herzberg should have all the
info you need on the viaduct's ownership and opening/closure;

http://members.netscapeonline.co.uk/penninetrail/conisbrough.htm

Hope this helps.

Regards,

Mark Robinson

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Sep 4, 2001, 11:39:04 AM9/4/01
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"Møgãdöñ Jôhñ" wrote:
>
> >So why didn't they use the real Denton station? Would have saved them
> >making mock-up name boards.
>
> 'Cos it's a dump.

Indeed it is, but we could have got it spruced up courtesy of the
Beeb. It's unlikely fNW will ever bother.

Anyway, it's not as bad as Reddish South.

David J. Rogers

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The Conisborough viaduct of the Dearne Valley Railway has brick parapets.
The one shown in the Frost episode had no parapets or brick wall edges. The
central metal girder section is not open at the sides and is much higher
than the view from the TV episode which was much more scenic than the Don
Valley. My guess is that they filmed much further south.
DR

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Neil Williams

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On Tue, 04 Sep 2001 16:39:04 +0100, Mark Robinson
<mar...@swift.ee.umist.ac.uk> wrote:

>"Møgãdöñ Jôhñ" wrote:
>>
>> >So why didn't they use the real Denton station? Would have saved them
>> >making mock-up name boards.
>>
>> 'Cos it's a dump.
>
>Indeed it is, but we could have got it spruced up courtesy of the
>Beeb. It's unlikely fNW will ever bother.

Don't forget the recent-ish GMPTE/Regional Railways nameboards, which
stations like Reddish North, Hyde Central, Farnworth etc can only
dream about, even though they get a far more frequent service.

Amusingly, Ardwick also has newish signs, and a rather more frequent
service than Denton, if Anna remembers to stop ;)

Neil

Neil Williams in Milton Keynes, UK

Mike Roebuck

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Sep 4, 2001, 11:10:58 PM9/4/01
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On Tue, 4 Sep 2001 21:16:05 +0100, "David J. Rogers"
<dr...@77shr.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

>The Conisborough viaduct of the Dearne Valley Railway has brick parapets.
>The one shown in the Frost episode had no parapets or brick wall edges. The
>central metal girder section is not open at the sides and is much higher
>than the view from the TV episode which was much more scenic than the Don
>Valley. My guess is that they filmed much further south.
>DR

My guess is that it was filmed "much" further north, David.

regards

Dave Fawthrop

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Sep 4, 2001, 5:41:54 PM9/4/01
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"David J. Rogers" <dr...@77shr.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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: The Conisborough viaduct of the Dearne Valley Railway has brick parapets.

: The one shown in the Frost episode had no parapets or brick wall edges.
The
: central metal girder section is not open at the sides and is much higher
: than the view from the TV episode which was much more scenic than the Don
: Valley. My guess is that they filmed much further south.

There is obviously a resemblance between the two.
Perhaps if someone found out who was the Engineer or Company who built
Conisborough and then looked for other lines built by the same people.

Looking hard at the pics again, the structure used is more massive than
Conisborough, so the line could have been built at an earlier date.
The countryside and river have a feel of the Severn to me.

Dave F


Clyde

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It's near Thorpe Arch, over the River Wharfe. I'm 95% certain. I found it using an OS Landranger map and Google Maps. Does anyone still read these posts? I hope so!

daveb...@gmail.com

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On Sunday, September 2, 2001 3:03:22 PM UTC+1, Martin Underwood wrote:
> In last Wednesday's episode of A Touch Of Frost (ITV, 8PM, Wednesday 29
> August, "True Confessions"), a disused railway bridge featured prominently
> in the plot - one of the characters apparently committed suicide by jumping
> from it.
>
> It looks familiar but I can't place it. I presume it's somewhere in
> West/North Yorkshire, since that's where Frost is filmed. The bridge has
> several stone arches and a central span of iron girders. It spans a wide
> river with fields leading down to the river banks. My first thought was that
> it was the Nidd viaduct, but that's completely different (black brick, over
> a wooded ravine).

It is the old railway bridge on the river Wharfe from Boston Spa to Thorpe Arch.
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Mike Swift

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Bloody Hell, I've seen some old posts reappear on t'interweb but almost
13 years to answer a question must be a record :-)

stephen...@aol.com

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Thorpe Arch, over the River Wharfe /Viaduct over the River Wharfe

croftv...@gmail.com

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On Sunday, September 2, 2001 at 2:54:49 PM UTC+1, Martin Underwood wrote:
> In last Wednesday's episode of A Touch Of Frost (ITV, 8PM, Wednesday 29
> August, "True Confessions"), a disused railway bridge featured prominently
> in the plot - one of the characters apparently committed suicide by jumping
> from it.
>
> It looks familiar but I can't place it. I presume it's somewhere in
> West/North Yorkshire, since that's where Frost is filmed. The bridge has
> several stone arches and a central span of iron girders. It spans a wide
> river with fields leading down to the river banks. My first thought was that
> it was the Nidd viaduct, but that's completely different (black brick, over
> a wooded ravine).

This bridge is between Pool and Harewood I believe

mortim...@gmail.com

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On Monday, February 3, 2014 at 9:18:03 AM UTC, Clyde wrote:
> It's near Thorpe Arch, over the River Wharfe. I'm 95% certain. I found it using an OS Landranger map and Google Maps. Does anyone still read these posts? I hope so!

Many thanks! Looking on Google Streetview from the lane the leads down to the north west part of the viaduct I'm 100% sure it's the right one: several arches on land and then a larger abutment by the river bank. It's a shame that the oblique views of it on Bing are such poor quality, just to confirm.

There's another viaduct used in (I think) episode "The Appendix Man" of Frost. I wonder if *that* one was Conisborough. I'll have to download the episode and have a look.

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