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Lestrade of the Yard

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Feb 9, 2019, 7:05:05 AM2/9/19
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Rink

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Jan 23, 2022, 3:34:54 PM1/23/22
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Op 9-2-2019 om 13:05 schreef Lestrade of the Yard:
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> http://youtube.com/watch?v=ui-mzTCmZPE
>


the sound of the gun is before he shoots.....


And again in some other intro's....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0W_A6VJEDYc

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williamwright

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Jan 23, 2022, 4:30:10 PM1/23/22
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They're just shooting at each other. That's not very nice.

Bill

Brian Gaff (Sofa)

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Jan 24, 2022, 3:54:49 AM1/24/22
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Did you know that most filming of guns for tv and films use a special charge
with a more visible muzzle flash or smoke exhaust event? Normal bullets and
cartridges would be made to minimise this, as any military person would not
wish to give away their position by this method.
However entertainment tends to shoot blanks and needs something to appear
to happen.
Brian

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Mark Carver

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Jan 24, 2022, 4:24:37 AM1/24/22
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You've heard about the recent tragic accident involving the actor Alec
Baldwin on a film set ?!

MB

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Jan 24, 2022, 4:57:31 AM1/24/22
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On 24/01/2022 08:54, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
> Did you know that most filming of guns for tv and films use a special charge
> with a more visible muzzle flash or smoke exhaust event? Normal bullets and
> cartridges would be made to minimise this, as any military person would not
> wish to give away their position by this method.
> However entertainment tends to shoot blanks and needs something to appear
> to happen.
> Brian

We had a demonstration of various guns when visiting a firearms company
that uses the old indoor firing range that was built for the US SEALs.

He fired one of the classic Wild West guns which used black powder (or
some equivalent) and did produce a considerable amount of smoke and a
muzzle flash (I think). Also frequently misfired and had to be reloaded.

SimonM

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Jan 25, 2022, 5:13:37 AM1/25/22
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On 23/01/2022 20:34, Rink wrote:
> Op 9-2-2019 om 13:05 schreef Lestrade of the Yard:
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>> http://youtube.com/watch?v=ui-mzTCmZPE
>>
>
>
> the sound of the gun is before he shoots.....

If this is the "Drama" channel on UK Freeview, my
wife often watches (or listens to) it:

It is often woefully out of sync, but sound was
late (it's easier to spot sound leading usually).

Inspector Lynley(?) was about 8-10 frames this
last week. I don't think there is anybody
technically competent involved in the TX process.
It is obviously a technical issue as the entire
shows have been massively off all the way through.
They're shot on film too, so there would be a sync
plop on the leader for telecine to check (and they
would have done that).


Note that nowadays there are few points in the TX
chan in where a human can accurately tell sync.

Paul R. will confirm that there were two CRT
displays still used in regional news here, one for
the Sound Super and one for the TM, to assess sync
on stuff leaving the studio (and in preview,
obviously), but that's it, and the studio in
question does exclusively NCA.

If something pre-recorded (i.e. all drama, for
example) gets 'ingested' wildly out, there is no
magic way it will be spotted before transmission.

The Other John

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Jan 25, 2022, 5:38:46 AM1/25/22
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On Tue, 25 Jan 2022 10:13:35 +0000, SimonM wrote:

> Note that nowadays there are few points in the TX chan in where a human
> can accurately tell sync.

I briefly watched GBNews this morning and the live studio presenters were
out of sync by about 4 or 6 frames late audio.

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NY

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Jan 25, 2022, 6:09:06 AM1/25/22
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"The Other John" <nom...@home.org> wrote in message
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Yes, well you have to allow time for the nerve transmission from the brain
to the arsehole, since that is the orifice that they speak out of ;-)

Brian Gaff (Sofa)

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Jan 25, 2022, 7:07:52 AM1/25/22
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Yes but that one supposes was somebody not doing their job properly. The
Americans are too gun infested to be allowed to actually have them, Look at
the news yesterday where a British tourist was killed in his room by a stray
bullet from guns being played with in the street. You did that here and the
whole place would be blitzed by police.
Brian

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williamwright

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Jan 25, 2022, 9:52:06 AM1/25/22
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On 25/01/2022 11:08, NY wrote:

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>> I briefly watched GBNews this morning and the live studio presenters were
>> out of sync by about 4 or 6 frames late audio.
>
> Yes, well you have to allow time for the nerve transmission from the
> brain to the arsehole, since that is the orifice that they speak out of ;-)

There are some very illuminating discussions on GB News.

Bill

Brian Gaff (Sofa)

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Jan 26, 2022, 3:00:58 AM1/26/22
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Yes and some brain numbing ones as well.
Whats this morning news channel thing I spotted in the listing?
I've still not got over GB news being called gigabyte news by my tellies
voice.

Brian

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