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Gonaturist

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Aug 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/15/98
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hi,

I'm new to the area and am interested in froming / joining any naturist groups
in the area.

The main problems I have found are:

There are very few naturist locations in this area

I am, for most of the time, single and male :((((

I am a member of CCBN and have been a member of a club in the south of England.

I have also been to several naturist locations overseas.

Any body interested???

Bryan K

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Aug 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/15/98
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Gonaturist <gonat...@aol.com> wrote

>I am a member of CCBN and have been a member of a club in the south of
England.

What is CCBN?

Bryan Kennerley bry...@globalnet.co.uk
Home Page of news:uk.local.north-wales
http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~bryank/NorthWales/

Mair Edwards

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Aug 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/15/98
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Gonaturist wrote in message
<199808151839...@ladder01.news.aol.com>...

>hi,
>
>I'm new to the area and am interested in froming / joining any naturist
groups
>in the area.

Right - you're new to the area and first thing you want to do is form a new
group without even considering whether or not your new group will be
welcome.


>
>The main problems I have found are:
>
>There are very few naturist locations in this area

So? How about your own back garden? And if it's so important to you why did
you move here in the first place - or is this some sort of crusade?


>
>I am, for most of the time, single and male :((((

Maybe this is trying to tell you something - maybe you look more alluring
when you're wearing something?


>
>I am a member of CCBN and have been a member of a club in the south of
England.

Does this stand for Cocky Cockney, Bugger what the Natives want?


>
>I have also been to several naturist locations overseas.

Bully for you - probably warmer there too.
>
>Any body interested???

IMHO North Wales is a trifle cold for bearing all even in Summer. However, I
believe that in the past a naturist group did try to make part of Llanddwyn
beach a naturist location, and another on the coast in Meirionydd - but with
little success.
>
>
Mair

Jeff Lewis

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Aug 16, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/16/98
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On Sat, 15 Aug 1998, from the depths of uk.local.north-wales
<Gonaturist <gonat...@aol.com>> wrote :-

>hi,
>
>I'm new to the area and am interested in froming / joining any naturist groups
>in the area.

Hmm, uk.local.north-wales.naked

Should be an interesting RFD :-)
--
Jeff "Ymswynwch rhag Gwyr y Gloran"
............. http://www.rhondda.demon.co.uk.............

Alun Williams

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Aug 16, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/16/98
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Gonaturist wrote in message
<199808151839...@ladder01.news.aol.com>...
>hi,
>
>I'm new to the area and am interested in froming / joining any naturist
groups
>in the area.


I'm sorry but anybody who would want to wander around, say, any of the
beaches on Anglesey in the scuddy with the sort of cold bloody weather you
get in North Wales has to be off their rocker!!

Philip Brown

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Aug 16, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/16/98
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IIRC, it was proposed for part of Penmaenmawr beach a few years ago
but it met a fair bit of local resistance - the town councillors were
either morally opposed or just incredulous, for much the same reasons
as Alun above.

Not to mention that Pen beach isn't exactly secluded!

Bryan K

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Aug 16, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/16/98
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Philip Brown <oce...@globalnet.co.uk> wrote

>>I'm sorry but anybody who would want to wander around, say, any of the
>>beaches on Anglesey in the scuddy with the sort of cold bloody weather
you
>>get in North Wales has to be off their rocker!!
>>
>IIRC, it was proposed for part of Penmaenmawr beach a few years ago
>but it met a fair bit of local resistance - the town councillors were
>either morally opposed or just incredulous, for much the same reasons
>as Alun above.

The original post didn't actually mention a beach though. Nudists can meet
anywhere that have a degree of privacy. ISTR that the Sandcastle in
Blackpool is regularly let out to nudist groups, and swimming pools
generally are similarly let out (heated, of course).

Somehow I don't think that Rhyl Sun Centre would work though - too many
windows.

Willy Eckerslyke

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Aug 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/17/98
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Mair Edwards wrote:

> >There are very few naturist locations in this area
> So? How about your own back garden? And if it's so important to you why did
> you move here in the first place - or is this some sort of crusade?

> >I am a member of CCBN and have been a member of a club in the south of


> England.
>
> Does this stand for Cocky Cockney, Bugger what the Natives want?

How many of us natives are you speaking for, Mair?
I can think of far worse clubs to have in the vicinity than one
involving a bunch of nutters wandering around in the buff.

> IMHO North Wales is a trifle cold for bearing all even in Summer. However, I
> believe that in the past a naturist group did try to make part of Llanddwyn
> beach a naturist location, and another on the coast in Meirionydd - but with
> little success.

I didn't realise that swimming trunks were worn for warmth. Still, I
suppose
some parts feel the cold more than others.
As for Llanddwyn not being a success for naturists, have you been there
lately? The stretch of beach beyond Llanddwyn Island (on the Malltraeth
side)
has long been regarded by many as an unofficial nudist beach.
Personally, I
have no problems with that. The vast majority of naturists using the
beach
are extremely discreet. Same goes for Porth Neigwl (Hells Mouth) on the
Llyn
Peninsula too.

--
Regards, Willy.

ku.ca.rognab@801sso :liam-E

geraint

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Aug 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/17/98
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sgwennodd Philip Brown yn neges
<35d6f101...@read.news.global.net.uk>...
<toriad>

>IIRC, it was proposed for part of Penmaenmawr beach a few years ago
>but it met a fair bit of local resistance - the town councillors were
>either morally opposed or just incredulous, for much the same reasons
>as Alun above.

I don't know why they opposed it! It might have bought a bit more life to
the place. It's probably the most miserable place for miles ever since the
expressway was built... No matter what time of year it is, it ALWAYS feels
like a rainy December in Penmaenmawr.....

>
> Not to mention that Pen beach isn't exactly secluded!

And isn't exactly clean either! Mind you, if they did have a nudist thing
there, the accident rate on the expressway would increase dramatically.....

hwyl!
geraint.

Mair Edwards

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Aug 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/17/98
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Willy Eckerslyke wrote in message <35D854...@mam.nospam>...

>How many of us natives are you speaking for, Mair?
>I can think of far worse clubs to have in the vicinity than one
>involving a bunch of nutters wandering around in the buff.
>
(snip)>

>--
>Regards, Willy.
>
>ku.ca.rognab@801sso :liam-E

I wondered if I'd get a reaction!:)

You're right, there are worse things than people walking around in the
buff - although I still maintain that most people look better with some
clothing (and research shows that scantily clad people are deemed more
attractive than completely nude - something to do with anticipation and
fantasy!).

However, I do object to people moving in to an area, and immediately trying
to make things like it was where they are from (e.g. fish and chip shops and
English pubs in Spain and other Med countries; or city/town people who move
in to a small village, and then complain there are no facilities nearby etc.
etc. ), which is what Gonaturist did in his original posting. My (negative)
response was more of a reaction to the tone of the posting. It wasn't that
Gonaturist was enquiring about information about naturist
groups/facilities - but stating that he wanted to form a new group, and
generally complaining that North Wales doesn't cater for his particular
hobby. It shows a certain lack of respect (and certainly a lack of
sensitivity) for local culture/values.

BTW, I thought that local objection in the Niwbwrch area had curtailed the
use of Llanddwyn as a nudist beach?

Mair

Willy Eckerslyke

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Aug 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/17/98
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Mair Edwards wrote:

> I wondered if I'd get a reaction!:)

Hmmm, I did hesitate for a moment..

> You're right, there are worse things than people walking around in the
> buff - although I still maintain that most people look better with some
> clothing (and research shows that scantily clad people are deemed more
> attractive than completely nude - something to do with anticipation and
> fantasy!).

Unfortunately, most of the ones at Llanddwyn would definitely look
better
clothed, which is why I appreciate their discretion.

> However, I do object to people moving in to an area, and immediately trying
> to make things like it was where they are from (e.g. fish and chip shops and
> English pubs in Spain and other Med countries; or city/town people who move
> in to a small village, and then complain there are no facilities nearby etc.
> etc. ), which is what Gonaturist did in his original posting. My (negative)
> response was more of a reaction to the tone of the posting. It wasn't that
> Gonaturist was enquiring about information about naturist
> groups/facilities - but stating that he wanted to form a new group, and
> generally complaining that North Wales doesn't cater for his particular
> hobby. It shows a certain lack of respect (and certainly a lack of
> sensitivity) for local culture/values.

I think you're reading an awful lot into his post. He wasn't enquiring
about groups etc because presumably he had already done so and found
none. That being the case, why shouldn't he set up a new group? It will
only work if there is sufficient interest. If it does work, then I don't
think it will become a serious threat to the culture of North Wales.
It's not as if he's planning to open a branch of MacDonalds or something
is it?

> BTW, I thought that local objection in the Niwbwrch area had curtailed the
> use of Llanddwyn as a nudist beach?

As an official one maybe, but the local plod have better things to do
than
sneak around the dunes with binoculars (on work time, at least).

Bryan K

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Aug 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/17/98
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Mair Edwards <mai...@email.msn.com> wrote

>You're right, there are worse things than people walking around in the
>buff - although I still maintain that most people look better with some
>clothing (and research shows that scantily clad people are deemed more
>attractive than completely nude - something to do with anticipation and
>fantasy!).

But then naturism isn't about looking attractive or sexy, there are as many
nudist pensioners as there are nudist firm bodied hunks and hunkesses.

Mair Edwards

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Aug 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/17/98
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Willy Eckerslyke wrote in message <35D8CC...@mam.nospam>...

>
>I think you're reading an awful lot into his post. He wasn't enquiring
>about groups etc because presumably he had already done so and found
>none. That being the case, why shouldn't he set up a new group? It will
>only work if there is sufficient interest. If it does work, then I don't
>think it will become a serious threat to the culture of North Wales.
>It's not as if he's planning to open a branch of MacDonalds or something
>is it?
>

Maybe you're right - maybe I was being slightly over-sensitive to the tone
of the posting (- only slightly mind you :)))!) But, I still think that an
awful lot of people who move into a new area don't consider for even a
moment that there might be differences between their home base and their
chosen area - and that leads to problems and bad feelings between locals and
newcomers.

>> BTW, I thought that local objection in the Niwbwrch area had curtailed
the
>> use of Llanddwyn as a nudist beach?
>
>As an official one maybe, but the local plod have better things to do
>than
>sneak around the dunes with binoculars (on work time, at least).

You seem to know an awful lot about the naturists of Llanddwyn Willy (and
the habits of the local bobbies)! I tend to only go there in Winter for a
nice brisk walk along the beach - but obviously the natural wild-life is
more active when you go :)


>
>--
>Regards, Willy.
>
>ku.ca.rognab@801sso :liam-E

Mair

Willy Eckerslyke

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Aug 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/18/98
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Mair Edwards wrote:

> You seem to know an awful lot about the naturists of Llanddwyn Willy (and
> the habits of the local bobbies)! I tend to only go there in Winter for a
> nice brisk walk along the beach - but obviously the natural wild-life is
> more active when you go :)

I live a couple of miles away, (plus another three or so through the
woods).
In fact I popped down last night for a cycle and swim and saw a barn
owl,
a buzzard and the usual flocks of ravens, so you could be right! I left
my
bike and climbed over the dunes to come out about half way along the
(Malltraeth) beach. There were a couple of surfers half a mile away
towards
Llanddwyn Island but otherwise I had the place to myself.
Which was nice.

peterlan...@gmail.com

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