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Nifty

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Apr 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/29/99
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Their Party Political Broadcast last night would hardly appeal to
the rest of Scotland - Tommy Sheridan and all the others with broad
Glasgow accents telling us to vote for them!

It put me in mind of the TV advert that features a football prima
donna who wants to change the team name to the 'Gwendolines';-)

Did you notice that they even managed to trip-up that 82 year old
lady when she went for the ball? Tackled from the back!!!!!


Adrian Marsh Tupper

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Apr 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/29/99
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The message <199904290...@scotlandmail.com>
from Nifty <ni...@scotlandmail.com> contains these words:

> Their Party Political Broadcast last night would hardly appeal to
> the rest of Scotland - Tommy Sheridan and all the others with broad
> Glasgow accents telling us to vote for them!

Can't see Sheridan getting elected.

BTW my vote (Ed. South) may be as follows

(1) SNP (Margo) or (less likely) LibDem
(2) LibDem or Green (I think Robin Harper would be an excellent MSP)
Council - Probably LibDem (Fred Mackintosh)

Am I tragically misguided? Your comments could change the Nation!

--
Adrian Tupper, Edinburgh
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http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/adriantupper/


Craig Cockburn

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Apr 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/30/99
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Ann an sgriobhainn, <199904292...@zetnet.co.uk>, sgriobh Adrian
Marsh Tupper <adrian...@zetnet.co.uk>

>The message <199904290...@scotlandmail.com>
> from Nifty <ni...@scotlandmail.com> contains these words:
>
>> Their Party Political Broadcast last night would hardly appeal to
>> the rest of Scotland - Tommy Sheridan and all the others with broad
>> Glasgow accents telling us to vote for them!
>
>Can't see Sheridan getting elected.
>
>BTW my vote (Ed. South) may be as follows
>
>(1) SNP (Margo) or (less likely) LibDem
>(2) LibDem or Green (I think Robin Harper would be an excellent MSP)
>Council - Probably LibDem (Fred Mackintosh)
>
I'll canvass for the SNP vote and note that so far, none of the other
parties appear to be interested in your vote.

I note that you're indicating support for three different parties
although none of them are Labour or Conservative. My assumption is that
you are prepared to vote tactically to keep these two parties out. You
haven't mentioned any particular policy priorities which draw you to the
3 parties mentioned so I'm unsure of what your particular priorities
are. I'm happy to talk about policy if you have any questions, but I'll
respond initially with a more general statement on strategy:

My assumption (please correct me if I am wrong) is that you are voting
for Margo because she is by a long margin the person best placed to
prevent a Labour victory. However, can I add that if you want to
emphasise your support for Margo, you should like me put SNP on your
Lothians list vote to add support to her election prospects and to that
of other SNP candidates. After all, if you are genuinely anti-Labour
then the stronger the SNP voice is in parliament then the more effective
the anti-Labour voice will be. The LibDems appear to be happy to do back
room deals with Labour as has been shown in the media this week.
Therefore, if you are genuinely anti-Labour, why vote for the party
which has stated it would prop up a minority Labour government - the
very party you seem keen to avoid? I hope however, rather than being
anti any party that you are choosing to vote for parties for positive
reasons. On that count, the SNP is the only party from the above likely
to form an administration to carry out the policy priorities which you
see as important. Given that, it is particularly important that you vote
SNP on your regional list vote as that is where the majority of SNP MSPs
are likely to be elected from. In order to give the SNP group the
strongest voice possible, you need to ensure that they return the most
MSPs. Voting twice for the SNP is the best way to achieve this. After
all, if you vote LibDem, how do you know that the LibDems won't
negiotiate away one of _your_ policy priorities as the price of forming
a coalition? As some who _currently_ has a LibDem MP, I have been
somewhat appalled by the low standard of campaigning from that party and
in all their literature the mainstay of their campaign has been to lobby
for the tactical vote to keep out the Tory who has no chance of being
elected on the constituency vote anyway!

Turning now to the council vote, these are very frequently decided on a
local basis on particular local issues. Without knowing what the
particular local issues are in your area that you find important, can I
simply refer you to the SNP local government manifesto and if there is
any particular issue in that with reference to a local issue then please
feel free to raise it with your local candidate or party. I could try
and answer the question in their absence but I feel they would be able
to do it more directly. Do you have the number of your local SNP
information centre?

Finally, I would encourage you to contact your local community council
to see if a local hustings has been organised for the parliamentary
and/or the council candidates in order that you can have the opportunity
to quiz them yourself and be able to directly compare their responses on
your priorities.

I have e-mailed you a copy of the SNP's local government manifesto, I
understand this will soon be available at www.snp.org

--
Craig Cockburn ("coburn") http://www.scot.demon.co.uk/
Port na Banrighinn, Alba. (Queensferry, Scotland) PGP key available.
Sgri\obh thugam 'sa Gha\idhlig ma 'se do thoil e.

fox1

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Apr 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/30/99
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> Am I tragically misguided? Your comments could change the Nation!

Lib Dem for Ed.South. Labour has blown it with petrol and the A1.

Craig Cockburn

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Ann an sgriobhainn, <199904300...@irport.zetnet.co.uk>, sgriobh
fox1 <edin...@irport.zetnet.co.uk>
Why the LibDems though? Is it not true that at the last LibDem
conference they argued for an 8p a litre rise in petrol prices? (This
allegation was revealed on cross examination on Wednesday).

Is there any truth in the statement in the Tory election broadcast that
the LibDems are going to put VAT on food?

G Bell

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Apr 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/30/99
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Craig Cockburn <cr...@scot.demon.co.uk> writes:

>Is there any truth in the statement in the Tory election broadcast that
>the LibDems are going to put VAT on food?

We already pay VAT on some foodstuffs and drinks, don't we? Enlighten me
please. (By drinks I mean soft drinks, not booze)

I must say it's so pervasive that I only notice when I go to Costco who
give both prices before and after VAT is added. Maybe more stores should
do this just so the electorate realise how much hidden taxes they pay on
goods?

Graham

fox1

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The message <Oa4WmYAu...@scot.demon.co.uk>
from Craig Cockburn <cr...@scot.demon.co.uk> contains these words:

> Why the LibDems though? Is it not true that at the last LibDem
> conference they argued for an 8p a litre rise in petrol prices? (This
> allegation was revealed on cross examination on Wednesday).

If this is policy.........they have blown it!

> Is there any truth in the statement in the Tory election broadcast that
> the LibDems are going to put VAT on food?

The Tories were, not sure about Lib Dems. Labour might!


Craig Cockburn

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Apr 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/30/99
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Ann an sgriobhainn, <7gbshq$kp7$1...@scotsman.ed.ac.uk>, sgriobh G Bell
<gb...@holyrood.ed.ac.uk>

>Craig Cockburn <cr...@scot.demon.co.uk> writes:
>
>>Is there any truth in the statement in the Tory election broadcast that
>>the LibDems are going to put VAT on food?
>
>We already pay VAT on some foodstuffs and drinks, don't we? Enlighten me
>please. (By drinks I mean soft drinks, not booze)
>
Yes, I use Makro and the quote prices ex-VAT there too. The Tory
allegation was without further detail I'm afraid but could be warning
that the LibDems were proposing to actually levy VAT on certain zero
rated items.

Craig Cockburn

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>The message <Oa4WmYAu...@scot.demon.co.uk>
> from Craig Cockburn <cr...@scot.demon.co.uk> contains these words:
>
>
>
>> Why the LibDems though? Is it not true that at the last LibDem
>> conference they argued for an 8p a litre rise in petrol prices? (This
>> allegation was revealed on cross examination on Wednesday).
>
>If this is policy.........they have blown it!
>
Promoting sales of more fuel-efficient vehicles by a road fuel duty
escalator of 8% per year in real terms, using the extra revenue raised
to abolish vehicle excise duty for the most fuel-efficient cars
(currently up to 1600cc, but based on emissions as soon as this is
practicable and with regular revisions as efficiency standards improve),
with VED increases for the least efficient; graduating company car
taxation by the fuel efficiency of the vehicle; increasing the tax
differential between normal and low-sulphur diesel; and introducing tax
and other incentives for super-efficient vehicles.


Check those words "8% in real terms".

See for yourself at
http://www.brighton98.libdems.org.uk/agenda/papers/review/finenv.htm

Craig Cockburn

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Ann an sgriobhainn, <6x6rMEAk$eK3...@scot.demon.co.uk>, sgriobh Craig
Cockburn <cr...@scot.demon.co.uk>

>Ann an sgriobhainn, <7gbshq$kp7$1...@scotsman.ed.ac.uk>, sgriobh G Bell
><gb...@holyrood.ed.ac.uk>
>>Craig Cockburn <cr...@scot.demon.co.uk> writes:
>>
>>>Is there any truth in the statement in the Tory election broadcast that
>>>the LibDems are going to put VAT on food?
>>
>>We already pay VAT on some foodstuffs and drinks, don't we? Enlighten me
>>please. (By drinks I mean soft drinks, not booze)
>>
>Yes, I use Makro and the quote prices ex-VAT there too. The Tory
>allegation was without further detail I'm afraid but could be warning
>that the LibDems were proposing to actually levy VAT on certain zero
>rated items.
>
Perhaps also I might have misheard and perhaps the Tory allegation was
"fuel" rather than "food" (I was driving at the time I heard it).

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