Hearnden Green, Heronden Hall, etc
Caroline Coster
any information on the Hearnden surname, which was my maiden name and which
I am currently researching? Would love to hear from anyone who can tell me
more about the places where the name might have originated (particularly
Hearnden Green - there seems to be very little available on it), or from
anyone wishing to shar information on family history of the Hearndens.
Thanks
Caroline
Bobby Bewl
Caroline
You find Heronden Hall in Tenterden on the following:
http://www.rootsweb.com/~engken/ot.txt
Are you from Tenterden?
Bobby
Steve Doerr
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> Has anyone any information on the above places?
You don't actually say whether you know where they are. In
case you don't, they are at
<http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=582500&Y=146500&A=Y&Z=3>
and
<http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=587820&Y=132760&A=Y&Z=3>
respectively.
For the same locations in 1876-77, see
<http://www.old-maps.co.uk/oldmaps/large.jsp?easting=582500&northing=146500&countyGridMap=null&countyCode=18>
and
<http://www.old-maps.co.uk/oldmaps/large.jsp?easting=587820&northing=132760&countyGridMap=null&countyCode=18>
respectively.
--
Steve
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money." The Wealth of Nations
Jim Sewell
From it ?
She OWNS it !
Jim
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Jim Sewell wrote:
>> Are you from Tenterden?
>
> From it ?
> She OWNS it !
>
> Jim
Yep, it'll costher!
Bobby
Caroline Coster
Thanks for the link. I have seen the book but didn't realise it was all
available online.
No, I don't live in tenterden. But my maiden name was Hearnden and I am
trying to findout more about its origins.
Caroline
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Caroline Coster
Yes, I did know where they are. I am curious as to how such an uncommon
name is found at such differing locations. There is also a Heronden near
Eastry. Clearly they were an important family once - before they all
(apparently) became poor labourers in the 17th century.
Thanks
Caroline
"Steve Doerr" <REVERSEdo...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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Caroline Coster
> > Are you from Tenterden?
>
>
> From it ?
> She OWNS it !
Oh, how I wish!....
Caroline
Bobby Bewl
Caroline Coster wrote:
> Hi Bobby
> Thanks for the link. I have seen the book but didn't realise it was
> all available online.
>
> No, I don't live in tenterden. But my maiden name was Hearnden and I
> am trying to findout more about its origins.
>
> Caroline
Caxton pub. It is a large house set in grounds. No idea of why it is
called Heronden Hall. Next time I am in Tenterden I will try and find out.
http://www.exclusivehomes.co.uk/properties/10001644.htm
Bobby
Terry Blunt
>
> Caroline Coster wrote:
> > Hi Bobby
> > Thanks for the link. I have seen the book but didn't realise it was
> > all available online.
> >
> > No, I don't live in tenterden. But my maiden name was Hearnden and I
> > am trying to findout more about its origins.
> >
> > Caroline
> Heronden Hall is at the bottom of Tenterden High Street opposite the
William
> Caxton pub. It is a large house set in grounds. No idea of why it is
> called Heronden Hall. Next time I am in Tenterden I will try and find
out.
We can expect to hear from you in about 5 years time then, after you've been
able to extricate yourself from the insane roadworks diversions and new
one-way system :-(
--
Terry Blunt
Age gives you the experience to screw up properly.
Steve Doerr
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> Has anyone any information on the above places?
Judith Glover's book 'The Place Names of Kent' lists a number of
place-names of this type, with two different derivations: (1)
Old English "hyrne denn" meaning "corner pasture"; and (2) from
a personal name "Hyra", i.e. "Hyra's woodland pasture". I'm not
entirely clear what place she is referring to in each of her
entries, since spellings on maps are not consistent and Heronden
occurs several times on the OS map. One Heronden is very old,
first mentioned in AD 833, but it's not clear from the book
which place this refers to.
Old English "denn", meaning "woodland pasture", is commonly
found in Kent and Sussex place-names, e.g. Bethersden,
Biddenden, Chillenden, Rolvenden, Otterden, Tenterden, Cowden,
Marden, Playden, Smarden, Iden, and many more.
--
Steve
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Caroline Coster
William
> Caxton pub. It is a large house set in grounds. No idea of why it is
> called Heronden Hall. Next time I am in Tenterden I will try and find
out.
>
> http://www.exclusivehomes.co.uk/properties/10001644.htm
>
> Bobby
>
>
As far as I know there are several Heronden properties around tenterden.
Those I have found in the listed buildings schedule are all on Smallhythe
rd. There is Heronden Hall, which is the one mentioned in the book you sent
the link for. That is a hall rebuilt on the site of an older Heronden hall
(demolished around 1818) It has a large gatehouse, which was damaged in the
storms of 1987. There is also a house called Heronden on the west side of
Smallhythe rd, early 19th century. Morghew farm apparently has a house
called Heronden. Then there is Heronden Old House, also on the west side of
Smallhythe rd, originaly 15th-16th century but altered in the 19th century.
As well as that there is a barn called Heronden barn, which does (or
possibly used to do) bed and breakfast. See
http://www.ukbed.com/south-east-england/heronden-barn.htm
In addition there is a place near Headcorn called Hearnden Green, and
another Heronden near Eastry.
As far as I have been able to find out so far, Heronden Hall did belong to
the Heronden family, who had their own coat of arms, and were apparently
quite an important family at one time. Sadly this hasn't lasted, and in all
the records I have found after about 1600, the family are labourers or
similar! The house and estate belonged to the Culpepper family at one time.
If you can pick up any information on any of the Heronden properties I would
be most interested. I hope to get to Kent at some tiem, and if you can let
me have titles of any books / guidebooks etc I will be able to look out for
the.
Many thanks
Caroline
Caroline Coster
I have a copy of the 833 document; it appears to be referring to the
Tenterden property. My understanding is that all the Heronden places in
Tenterden were in fact owned by the Heronden family at one time, before
being split up into separate parts and sold off. However, there is also a
Heronden near Eastry and Hearnden Green near Headcorn. I am trying to find
out the connections between these different locations.
I have also heard that the name Hearnden may refer to the Celtic hunter god
Herne. Of course, a den was also a wooded place. But Heronden may also
refer to the presence of herons, it is suggested. Who knows - but it is an
interesting area of study!
Caroline
Bobby Bewl
Caroline
You can find out more about the Hearndens on:
http://www.traceit.com/cgi-bin/baseall
They go back to Anglo Saxon times and have there own coat of arms etc.
Goog luck.
Bobby
Bobby Bewl
I must admit the one way system came as a culture shock when I went there a
few weeks ago. I lived in Tenterden for a long time and go back now and
again to visit family. When I came along the Woodchucrch Road I found the
way "blocked" and had to turn left then right - it was all a bit strange
after all these years of going straight across the crossroads.
Caroline Coster
Thanks for the reference - it gave me a chuckle as they claim the name
originates from Bedfordshire (interestign with a name which is so tied to
Kent) and had a different coat of arms to the two I have found... Ah well -
I guess they have to make their money somehow!
Thanks anyway
Caroline
"Bobby Bewl" <a...@b.com> wrote in message
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PJK
> On Monday, May 26, 2003 at 12:19:45 PM UTC-5, Caroline Coster wrote:
>> Has anyone any information on the above places? Come to that, has anyone
>> any information on the Hearnden surname, which was my maiden name and which
>> I am currently researching? Would love to hear from anyone who can tell me
>> more about the places where the name might have originated (particularly
>> Hearnden Green - there seems to be very little available on it), or from
>> anyone wishing to shar information on family history of the Hearndens.
>> Thanks
>> Caroline
>
immigrated to America (who was my 8-great grandfather.) Here is a
website about the Herndon Hall that was torn down, and the area:
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/caroline.coster/Hearndenhistory.html
>
the question requires a special degree of fuckwittery.