Cumbrian songs?
Ally
Ally
Chris Mcfarlane
Peel.) There seem to be loads from the North East, but I can't find anyone
who knows any here. Any ideas?
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Cum-bri-a
Oh lord Cum-bri-a
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Ally <ally.b...@virgin.net> writes
>Anyone know any real, traditional songs from Cumbria? (Apart from John Peel.)
>There seem to be loads from the North East, but I can't find anyone who knows
>any here. Any ideas?
It might not be exactly what you meant, but I am sure that Steve
Marshall and a few others on the newsgroup will recognise it :
Assurgit Skidda stabilis,
Mons nunquam non durabilis,
Haud ulla vi mutabilis,
Qoud Dominus fundavit
Collibus impensis.
Nec magis est violabilis,
Nec minus immutabilis,
In saeclom saecla stabilis,
Quod Dominus amavit,
Schola Kesvicensis.
If necessary replace "nospam.please" when replying
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Dave Atkinson
Chris Mcfarlane <chri...@btinternet.com.com> writes
>Anyone know any real, traditional songs from Cumbria? (Apart from John
>Peel.) There seem to be loads from the North East, but I can't find anyone
>who knows any here. Any ideas?
>
>--------
>Cum-bri-a m'lord
>Cum-bri-a
>Oh lord Cum-bri-a
Hey, that's my creation :-)
Although it was originally supposed to be:
Cumbrians, we are Cumbrians.
Cumbrians, we are Cumbrians.
Cumbrians, we are Cumbrians.
Oh yes, we're Cumbrians.
But I think that was too many new words for the average CUFC fan to
remember and within one game it became:
Cumbria, my lord Cumbria.
Cumbria, my lord Cumbria.
Cumbria, my lord Cumbria.
Oh lord, Cumbria.
Chris Mcfarlane
> >Peel.) There seem to be loads from the North East, but I can't find
anyone
> >who knows any here. Any ideas?
> >
> >--------
> >Cum-bri-a m'lord
> >Cum-bri-a
> >Oh lord Cum-bri-a
> Hey, that's my creation :-)
> Although it was originally supposed to be:
>
> Cumbrians, we are Cumbrians.
> Cumbrians, we are Cumbrians.
> Cumbrians, we are Cumbrians.
> Oh yes, we're Cumbrians.
>
> But I think that was too many new words for the average CUFC fan to
> remember and within one game it became:
>
> Cumbria, my lord Cumbria.
> Cumbria, my lord Cumbria.
> Cumbria, my lord Cumbria.
> Oh lord, Cumbria.
Yes Dave, I bow to your creatitivity. You'll be claiming to be Elton John
next. BTW - did you get my message about tonight. I may be coming to your
house before the game.
The Traveller
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Ally
"Fair are the flowers inthe Valley" ?????
With blushes red, I come she said
Farewell to the flowers in the valley.
Edith.
Ken Battersby
wrote:
>Anyone know any real, traditional songs from Cumbria? (Apart from John =
>Peel.) There seem to be loads from the North East, but I can't find =
>anyone who knows any here. Any ideas?
>
>Ally
Hi Ally
Actually, there are quite a few. As somebody has pointed out however,
it depends by what you mean by Cumbria; for example, Furness was in
Lancashire when I were a lad.
Assuming you mean places that fall within the CURRENT boundary of
Cumbria, at least half a dozen songs instantly spring to mind.
"John Peel" (of course)
"The horn of the hunter". (Superb song bout the death of John Peel)
"Dido, Bendigo" (a hunting song about John Peel's hounds)
"The lish young buy a broom". (about a broom seller wandering around
Kirby Stephen, Kendal area - not about John Peel!!!)
"Copshawholme fair". (I think Copshawholme is just in Cumbria -
however I could be wrong)
"The cock fight". (Also called the bonny grey. Concerns a cock fight
on Walney)
I have recently moved house. In the depths of my new loft is a
"Cumbria archive" recording (vinyl LP) containing quite a few more. I
also recently replaced my ancient hi-fi system (the string snapped on
the tuner - literally) and being a complete dickhead I bought a system
that won't take a turntable!!!! Thus, I have consigned my vinyl
collection to the loft until I can figure out some way of playing LPs.
If I can remember any more titles I will let you know.
And finally, how many of you chaps out there remember,
"Autumn gold and Winter weather,
Summer dew and bluebell spring,
Days afoot in Furness heather,
These, I knew, these were mine
..........................etc"
Regards
Ken Battersby
Edgar Iredale
"Ally" <ally.b...@virgin.net> wrote in message
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Ally
Surely the Cumbrian forte is crack not song.
Edgar
Ally
The Traveller wrote in message ...
|
|"Fair are the flowers inthe Valley" ?????
|
|With blushes red, I come she said
|Farewell to the flowers in the valley.
|
That sounds nice! Do you know any more of it? Or the tune?
Ally
Ally
Ken Battersby wrote in message
|
|Actually, there are quite a few. As somebody has pointed out however,
|it depends by what you mean by Cumbria; for example, Furness was in
|Lancashire when I were a lad.
Not sure what I mean by Cumbria, actually! Just, vaguely, this big bump of land that sticks out westwards I suppose! And all the bits inland until you hit the next county. I just want some songs that aren't Northumbrian or Lancastrian!
|
|Assuming you mean places that fall within the CURRENT boundary of
|Cumbria, at least half a dozen songs instantly spring to mind.
|
|"John Peel" (of course)
|
|"The horn of the hunter". (Superb song bout the death of John Peel)
|
|"Dido, Bendigo" (a hunting song about John Peel's hounds)
Was John Peel the only famous person ever to come out of Cumrbia??? Why so many songs celebrating fox-killing?
|
|"The lish young buy a broom". (about a broom seller wandering around
|Kirby Stephen, Kendal area - not about John Peel!!!)
|
|"Copshawholme fair". (I think Copshawholme is just in Cumbria -
|however I could be wrong)
|
|"The cock fight". (Also called the bonny grey. Concerns a cock fight
|on Walney)
|
OK - where can I get the words and the tunes for these?
|I have recently moved house. In the depths of my new loft is a
|"Cumbria archive" recording (vinyl LP) containing quite a few more. I
|also recently replaced my ancient hi-fi system (the string snapped on
|the tuner - literally) and being a complete dickhead I bought a system
|that won't take a turntable!!!! Thus, I have consigned my vinyl
|collection to the loft until I can figure out some way of playing LPs.
You can still get turntables you know! And you often come across them dead cheap in charity shops and car boot sales!
|
|If I can remember any more titles I will let you know.
|
Oh yes please Ken! But I want to learn the songs and sing them and play them so I need the words and tunes as well. (I know, I'm asking a lot . . .)
Ally
Ally
Edgar Iredale wrote in message |
|Surely the Cumbrian forte is crack not song.
|
Ah, perhaps this explains the dearth of songs then!
Ally
Jacques Hankin
Transcription service (vinyl -> cassette) offered in Keswick area.
(Free to the right person) Email me if interested.
J.
Bryan Flint
>Was John Peel the only famous person ever to come out of Cumrbia???
Apart from me there was also John Laing and Colonel Fawcett.
I'm sure the cannibals of the Matto Grosso have a few songs about the feast
they had the night they met the good colonel. As for John Laing, use the
same tune and words as John Peel and substitute the name. In the mean time
Edith can compose some new verses about road and bridge building.
Bryan
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gmt
>>Peel.) There seem to be loads from the North East, but I can't find =
>>anyone who knows any here. Any ideas?
>>
>>Ally
Vague memories of a song in 'The Labour Party Song book' from the '60s,
had a truckers song that mentioned the Jungle Cafe on the A6 towards
Shap.
The Jungle cafe and the Angel pub were the only two places my parents
specifically banned me from going to.
JillT
gmt
(well there is Northumberland I suppose).
JillT
The Traveller
"Ken Battersby" <ken...@kokopelli.co.uk> wrote in message
news:39ec9b7f...@news.freenetname.co.uk...> >Anyone know any real, traditional songs from Cumbria? (Apart from John =
> >Peel.) There seem to be loads from the North East, but I can't find =
> >anyone who knows any here. Any ideas?
> >
> >Ally
>
>
>
> Actually, there are quite a few. As somebody has pointed out however,
> it depends by what you mean by Cumbria; for example, Furness was in
> Lancashire when I were a lad.
>
> Cumbria, at least half a dozen songs instantly spring to mind.
>
> "John Peel" (of course)
>
> "The horn of the hunter". (Superb song bout the death of John Peel)
>
> "Dido, Bendigo" (a hunting song about John Peel's hounds)
>
> Kirby Stephen, Kendal area - not about John Peel!!!)
>
> "Copshawholme fair". (I think Copshawholme is just in Cumbria -
> however I could be wrong)
>
> "The cock fight". (Also called the bonny grey. Concerns a cock fight
> on Walney)
>
>
> "Cumbria archive" recording (vinyl LP) containing quite a few more. I
> also recently replaced my ancient hi-fi system (the string snapped on
> the tuner - literally) and being a complete dickhead I bought a system
> that won't take a turntable!!!! Thus, I have consigned my vinyl
> collection to the loft until I can figure out some way of playing LPs.
>
>
>
>
> "Autumn gold and Winter weather,
> Summer dew and bluebell spring,
> Days afoot in Furness heather,
> These, I knew, these were mine
> ..........................etc"
>
> Regards
>
> Ken Battersby
I think Ken has been at Sister Mary's bottom washing liquid.
How are you feeling today Kenneth?
Tell us please all about the new abode. Does it have bars at the windows?
Days afoot in Furness Heather,Edith.
The Traveller
The Traveller wrote in message ...
|
|"Fair are the flowers in the Valley" ?????
|
|With blushes red, I come she said
|Farewell to the flowers in the valley.
|
That sounds nice! Do you know any more of it? Or the tune?
Ally
Yes. It goes like this:-
duhruh dur ruh duh, dar rah rah, dahrah rahrah.
Duh ruh durur duuh duhduh duuuuh ruuuhhrr and the words are something like:-
There came a knight all clothed in yellow
Fair are the flowers in the valley
With a daughter as fair as a fresh summer meadow
The red, the green. and the yellow
the harp, the lute,
The pipe, the flute the symbol
*Something* goes the *something* violin
With blushes red I come she said
Farewell to the flowers in the valley.
Russell's Mamma taught me this song in the 50's.
It may not be Cumbrian tho' Ally. I think you may have to stick to jigs and
reels to find a Cumbrian song.
How about "Cumberland Gap." by Lonnie Donagan...giggle.
fal lal lal lal lal lal lal lal lal lal lal lal lal lal lal, fa lal lal lal
lal lal lal lal.lal lal lal lal lal lal lal fa la la fa ..fa.. f...
yust yoking- Edith.
Alan Walker
"Dave Atkinson" <webm...@nospam.please> wrote in message
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<<SNIP>>
>
> It might not be exactly what you meant, but I am sure that Steve
> Marshall and a few others on the newsgroup will recognise it :
>
> Assurgit Skidda stabilis,
> Mons nunquam non durabilis,
> Haud ulla vi mutabilis,
> Qoud Dominus fundavit
> Collibus impensis.
>
> Nec magis est violabilis,
> Nec minus immutabilis,
> In saeclom saecla stabilis,
> Quod Dominus amavit,
> Schola Kesvicensis.
> Dave Atkinson E-Mail : webm...@kynson.org.uk
> WWW : http://www.kynson.org.uk
> icq : 43284545
> Reeves is offside again : a Carlisle United eFanzine
Keswick School song, I was made to learn it by Mrs Mitchell in about 1974/5
for jumping out of a classroom window.
I was sent to the head, I'm not sure about his name, I seem to recall him
being called 'Toad', but he was the predecessor to that bloke Allen. Very
odd, sat here in my office in Hook, Hampshire, and get hit with a blast from
the past like that !
Alan Walker
kh...@lords.com
Dave Atkinson
>news:Gcy7ZmAm...@kynson.freeserve.co.uk...
><<SNIP>>
>>
>> Marshall and a few others on the newsgroup will recognise it :
>>
>> Assurgit Skidda stabilis,
<Snip>
In article <8skebp$qg9$1...@supernews.com>,
Alan Walker <kh...@lords.com> writes
>Keswick School song,
Yes indeed, points to that man :-)
>I was made to learn it by Mrs Mitchell in about 1974/5
>for jumping out of a classroom window.
A lot of the kids around my time at Keswick School knew this song word
perfect, particularly school rugby team members.
>I was sent to the head, I'm not sure about his name, I seem to recall him
>being called 'Toad', but he was the predecessor to that bloke Allen.
Howard (?) Allen was headmaster during my time at Keswick School
(1978-85).
>Very
>odd, sat here in my office in Hook, Hampshire, and get hit with a blast from
>the past like that !
Glad to hear that, as per usual, I am freaking people out :-)
Ken Battersby
wrote:
<SNIP>
>> And finally, how many of you chaps out there remember,
>>
>> "Autumn gold and Winter weather,
>> Summer dew and bluebell spring,
>> Days afoot in Furness heather,
>> These, I knew, these were mine
>> ..........................etc"
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Ken Battersby
>
Hi Edith
>I think Ken has been at Sister Mary's bottom washing liquid.
>How are you feeling today Kenneth?
Actually "Autumn Gold and Winter weather" was the school song of
Barrow Grammar School for Boys - back in the days when we used to have
such things as Grammar schools.
> Tell us please all about the new abode. Does it have bars at the windows?
It's funny you should ask that!!!! Whilst there are no bars on the
windows, the house deeds state that at one time the property was "in
the occupation of the Cumberland & Westmorland constabulary", so it
may well have had bars at the windows at some point in the past!!!!
Regards
Ken Battersby
Ken Battersby
>Was John Peel the only famous person ever to come out of Cumrbia???
Nope...there were lots more!!
Fletcher Christian of "mutiny on the Bounty" fame was born at
Cockermouth. Strong rumour has it that he actually returned to
Cumbria (then Cumberland) some time after the mutiny and lived at
Belle Isle on Windermere.
William Wordsworth (and the other lake poets of course.)
Beatrix Potter
Norman Nicholson, the poet (Millom's only famous person).
Melvyn Bragg (from Wigton)
Stan Laurel (of Laurel & Hardy fame)
George Romney the painter.
Sir John Barrow (I can recommend the book "Barrow's boys")
Branwell Bronte lived in Broughton
Legend has it that an illegitimate daughter of Bonny Prince Charlie is
buried in (Cartmel???) churchyard.
These are just the ones that immediately spring to mind, there are
lots more.
Actually, I am not quite sure why John Peel was so famous. By all
accounts he was a drunken, thoroughly dislikeable rogue.
>Why so many songs celebrating fox-killing?
I suspect because fox-hunting was such a widespread Cumbrian pastime
(on foot, not horseback incidentally). After the hunt they would no
doubt gather in a local pub and make up songs of their recent
exploits. Some of the better songs are still remembered. Also of
course there are the Shepherd's meets, where the locals would have a
good singaround - most shepherds would probably also go fox-hunting,
hence the songs would reflect this.
>|"The lish young buy a broom". (about a broom seller wandering around
>|Kirby Stephen, Kendal area - not about John Peel!!!)
>|
>|"Copshawholme fair". (I think Copshawholme is just in Cumbria -
>|however I could be wrong)
>|
>|"The cock fight". (Also called the bonny grey. Concerns a cock fight
>|on Walney)
>|
>OK - where can I get the words and the tunes for these?
The first two are definitely on "Steeleye Span" discs (I forget which
ones). "The Cock Fight" is on an old Alex Campbell LP and also in the
"Penguin Book of English Folk Songs" (in modified form - it should be
"Tummers Hill" [on Walney] not "Tumblers Hill" as written in the
book).
>|I have recently moved house. In the depths of my new loft is a
>|"Cumbria archive" recording (vinyl LP) containing quite a few more. I
>|also recently replaced my ancient hi-fi system (the string snapped on
>|the tuner - literally) and being a complete dickhead I bought a system
>|that won't take a turntable!!!! Thus, I have consigned my vinyl
>|collection to the loft until I can figure out some way of playing LPs.
>
>You can still get turntables you know! And you often come across them =
>dead cheap in charity shops and car boot sales!
That's not the problem, I still have my turntable. The snag is that
there is no suitable socket on my new Hi-Fi. I have tried plugging
the turntable into all possible sockets but the impedance is wrong,
there is just no sound. I need to acquire some sort of adaptor to go
between the old turntable and the new Hi-Fi (I feel sure something
must be available) but haven't had the time to investigate yet.
>|If I can remember any more titles I will let you know.
>
>Oh yes please Ken! But I want to learn the songs and sing them and play =
>them so I need the words and tunes as well. (I know, I'm asking a lot . =
Ask me nicely and I just might get around to scanning the words and
music of anything I have and e-mailing them to you.
Incidentally, what instrument do you play? Our local folk club is
always on the lookout for new performers!! 8^)
Regards
Ken Battersby
Chris Mcfarlane
Alan Walker <kh...@lords.com> wrote in message
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. Very
> odd, sat here in my office in Hook, Hampshire, and get hit with a blast
from
> the past like that !
Jeez - I spent while living in Bordon, just down the road from Farham, now
live in Beaconsfield. But i was bored yesterday and made the 11 hr round
trip to Carlisle and back for the footie match. Yep - I am mad.
Chris Mcfarlane
> Nope...there were lots more!!
> Fletcher Christian of "mutiny on the Bounty" fame was born at
> Cockermouth. Strong rumour has it that he actually returned to
> Cumbria (then Cumberland) some time after the mutiny and lived at
> Belle Isle on Windermere.
John Paul Jones. Not sure if he was born in Whitehaven, but he learnt to be
a seadog there and came back to torch the place. Stopped too early and
missed out on Chatanooga, which should have been burnt down the night i was
drunk and tried to do some breakdancing on the counter (I was young (18) - i
needed the money). My so called mates grabbed my feet and threw me over.
Derek Batey (ahem)
Rowan Atkinson was schooled at St Bees, but may have been imported from
another county.
Tarzan, Lord of Greystoke
It Bites - Egremont pop group, had a top 10 hit in the 80's with Calling All
the Heroes)
John Marcangelo - some of you oldies may remember The Town and Country Club
in Nethertown when it was called somat else, can't remember what - The Tobar
i think. John used to play with the Ashley Kay Group in the 60's, the lead
singer of whom was my dad Bob McFarlane. John Marcangelo then went off and
had a Top 10 hit with Violinski's Clog Dance in the 70's. It may have
reached No1, can't remember. Violinski then changed their name to ELO - now
most of us remember them, but nobody remembers that the creative drive was
Mr Marcangelo
Dunno his name, but the bloke that wrote that Cher song last year that went
to No1 - I believe in Life After Love - he is Whitehaven born and bred.
John Burridge - Newcatle goalkeeper of the 70's and 80's - Workington born
and bred.
Thats all i can think of - i'll get more when i'm bored
Ally
I actually knew about some of these people - Fletcher Christian and Wordsworth (& co) of course, Beatrix Potter, Stan Laurel and Melvyn Bragg. I suppose what I meant to say was, "Was John Peel the only one to have a song written about him?"
Thanks, by the way, for the warning about modern hi-fi systems. Mine's all cobbled together from bits and pieces from 2nd hand shops, so it's not particularly new (but VERY good sound quality!) and there's a socket for a turntable. It hadn't occurred to me that newer ones might not have the correct socket. Mmmm. . .. There's a few electronics whiz kids about - my Steve even might know the answer - I'm sure it's quite easy to fix yours.
|Ask me nicely and I just might get around to scanning the words and
|music of anything I have and e-mailing them to you.
I'll ask nicely! Please please please!?? Maybe we can help you sort your hi-fi in return for this?
|
|Incidentally, what instrument do you play? Our local folk club is always on the lookout for new performers!! 8^)
I play loads of things, but when I'm singing I play guitar. I also play clarinet and recorders (for morris dancing, mostly) and other things like pianos, flutes, etc rather badly. Oh, and by next summer I hope I'll be playing my C-melody saxophone as well. Whereabouts is your folk club? Why do I think you're a bit further south than we are?
Ally
http://www.marshallmcgurk.co.uk
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Bryan Flint
Thanks, Ken, for this erudite reply!
Thanks, by the way, for the warning about modern hi-fi systems. Mine's all
cobbled together from bits and pieces from 2nd hand shops, so it's not
particularly new (but VERY good sound quality!) and there's a socket for a
turntable. It hadn't occurred to me that newer ones might not have the
correct socket. Mmmm. . .. There's a few electronics whiz kids about - my
Steve even might know the answer - I'm sure it's quite easy to fix yours.
I have a similar problem, my Sanyo amplifier would cut in and out so I
bought a new amp. When I came to take out the old and put in the new I
discovered that the power supply for the turntable came from some small
socket on the back of the Sanyo amp. So I have a turntable with no power
supply, 100 or so LPs and now I have a CD recorder that has also gone bust.
Good luck.
The Traveller
It's probably haunted then. It sounds very interesting Ken. Is it in
Cumbria. Go on. Give's a 'int.
Edith.
John Armstrong
>
>The Jungle cafe and the Angel pub were the only two places my parents
>specifically banned me from going to.
>
Well now you could get a mortgage from one and then buy a caravan from
the other.
--
John
gmt
Sic transit gloria mundi. Proper milk shakes in Tognarelli's, Cream cakes
from Rigg's, Rugby Club dances, cider from the offie in Windermere Road,
walks through the Serps to the Cannon - I suppose they've all gone too?
JillT
John Armstrong
Tognarelli's (Opposite the Mason's Arms ?) = Italian restaurant
Rigg's (Kirkland) - Bakery gone, not sure which was the shop but it is
now either a newsagent, bookie, second hand appliance rip off
merchants, cobblers or hairdresser. Flat conversion above and behind.
Rugby club is still there, although there are talks about them
relocating to a new site.
Was the offie on the corner where you turn onto Kendal green ? Shop is
still there.
The serps are definitely still there. I thought the cannon disappeared
in the last war ? Definitely not there now. I occasionally go for a
walk up there, and it seems fairly quiet. I think the murder up there
a few years back put people off.
--
John
Edgar Iredale
Edgar Iredale wrote in message |
>> Surely the Cumbrian forte is crack not song.
>>
> Ah, perhaps this explains the dearth of songs then!
>
> Ally
Poetry and song are not my thing but I came across "Anderson's
Cumberland Ballads and Songs" edited by Rev. T.Ellwood published by
W. Holmes Ltd, Ulverston 1904. Whether his 200 poem/ballad/songs count
as traditional and whether anyone ever sang them I wouldn't know.
Ellwood seems to have written (or edited) other books e.g. "The Songs
and Singers of Cumberland", "The English Dialect Society's Glossary of
the Dialect of Cumberland, Westmorland and North Lancashire".
Some other names which might be worth investigation are:
Thomas Sanderson; Susanna Blamire; John Stagg; Rev. Joshua(Josiah)
Relph; John Richardson; William Sanderson. They may just be dialect
poets.
Edgar
The Traveller
"Chris Mcfarlane" <chri...@btinternet.com.com> wrote in message
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Edith.
woo...@ecn.ab.ca
: Vague memories of a song in 'The Labour Party Song book' from the '60s,
: Shap.
The song is called "I'm Champion at Keeping Them Rolling"; I suspect it
was written by Ewan McColl - in those days (the '50's) most folksongs
were, if they weren't written by Pete Seeger.
The Jungle is also mentioned in "Twenty-One Years", another trunk-drivers'
song:
"...I've eaten my cake in Dirty Dick's, at the Jungle they know me;
I've been working out my twenty-one years on chips and cups of tea"
I sang them both in the Peasmouldia folk-club in Derby in the mid-60's.
Peter Wood
gmt
Yep - that was it - thanks. I wondered if the line 'And I'm well known to
<someone> and Mary', referred to Kendal Mary or was just co-incidence.
Think I'll go and have a look for that song book.
JillT
woo...@ecn.ab.ca
: >was written by Ewan McColl - in those days (the '50's) most folksongs
: >were, if they weren't written by Pete Seeger.
: >The Jungle is also mentioned in "Twenty-One Years", another trunk-drivers'
: >song:
: > "...I've eaten my cake in Dirty Dick's, at the Jungle they know me;
: > I've been working out my twenty-one years on chips and cups of tea"
: >I sang them both in the Peasmouldia folk-club in Derby in the mid-60's.
: >Peter Wood
: Yep - that was it - thanks. I wondered if the line 'And I'm well known to
: <someone> and Mary', referred to Kendal Mary or was just co-incidence.
"...Blondie and Mary..."
The "Jungle" reference in that song is:
"...My hotel's the Jungle, a caff's my abode..."
I would guess that the Jungle is long gone. In my hitch-hiking days, I
last saw it, according to my 1958 diary, on:
"Friday 4th (Good Friday).1958. Up at 9. Left at 12. Walk most of
day. 6 p.m. lift to Shap (Jungle transport cafŽ). Light snow and wind all
day. "
We camped in a field near the summit of the hill, and our tent was used as
a windbreak by a flock of sheep.
Peter Wood
Russell W. Barnes
Ally,
I have in front of me a book entitled "Cumbrian Songs and Ballads". It
contains 38 Cumbrian songs (including John Peel), along with scores. Be
warned, though.... Many of the tunes are actually Scottish (or Irish). I
suspect us Cumbrians stole them!
Written by Keith Gregson, it is - or was - published by Dalesman Press, ISBN
0-85206-567-1. It has in it the following songs:
And ye shall walk in silk attire
Leyle steebem
Barbary bell
The bleckell murryneet
Blith jwhonny graeme
Ned carnaughan
The buck O' kingwatter
Matthew macree
Canny aul' cummerlan'
Trafalgar sea fight
Christmas day in the morning
Madam jane
The cockfeight
O' jenny dear
Gossip nan
Miss gilpin's song
The thursby witch
Feckless wully
Dick glendinnin
The last new shoon our betty gat
English beer
D'ye ken john peel (natch....!)
Silly andrew (sorry, Andrew, but that's what it says!)
Peer body
Peace
Wey, ned, man
Barley broth
Ann O' hethersgill
The village gang
I trudged up to lunnon
Wrestling match between atkinson and jackson
Elizabeths birthday
I've gotten a rock
My love she's but a northern lassie yet
The peck of punch
Young susy
Peggy pen
Nursery song
And that's it! - Capitals missed out 'cos I couldn't be bothered.
Regds,
Russell W. B.
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> Anyone know any real, traditional songs from Cumbria? (Apart from John Peel.) There seem to be loads from the North East, but I can't find anyone who knows any here. Any ideas?
>
> Ally
I have been looking for the song ''Ginger Lou'' which is a song that was sung in all the pubs many years ago and it is about Cumbria sung by a singer popular at the time Bob Kendal
a l l y
I haven't come across that one. I shall ask around, though.
Goodness, my original post was 19 years ago! I only just popped in to see if
there was anything apart from drug dealers posting here, and found you!
Since then I've found a lot of Cumbrian tunes, excellent for playing on the
concertina and dancing to, as well as a few local songs. The Whitehaven
Volunteer seems to be the most well-known tune. There's actually a tunebook
available, quite recently published, called Bonny Cumberland. (I have it on
my Amazon wish list, as I'd rather someone bought it for me for Christmas
than paying for it myself ... :-D )
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>On Tuesday, 17 October 2000 00:21:06 UTC+1, Ally wrote:
>> Anyone know any real, traditional songs from Cumbria? (Apart from John
>> Peel.) There seem to be loads from the North East, but I can't find anyone
>> who knows any here. Any ideas?
>>
>> Ally
>
>I have been looking for the song ''Ginger Lou'' which is a song that was
>sung in all the pubs many years ago and it is about Cumbria sung by a singer
>popular at the time Bob Kendal
Dido, Bendigo.
Lish young buy a broom.
Sally Gray.
Appleby Fair.
etc.
There is - or was - a book called "Cumbria Songs and Ballads" by Keith
Gregson, which may - or may not - be still available. it could be
worth searching for. Also, look for the LP(CD?) "Canny Cumberland
Songs and Tales in Cumbrian Dialect".
The only "Ginger Lou" lyrics I know of are from a Hawaiian song from
1899 which, in the current 'politically correct' climate, would
probably get you arrested if you sang it - the words are quite non-PC
for today's World.
Rather curiously I have stumbled another (non-local) newish song from
across the Atlantic called Mr Farrington which contains the name Ally.
(just type Mr Farrington into Google to show I am not making this up).
The first verse goes:-
"Mr. Farrington hates his job
He hates his life
Works for Mr. Allynee
And won't amount to anything
Mr. Allynee says Mr. Farrington's a losing breed
He's nobody…nobody
That Farrington"
Dunno the tune - possibly the Farrington Maggot would fit??
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> Anyone know any real, traditional songs from Cumbria? (Apart from John Peel.) There seem to be loads from the North East, but I can't find anyone who knows any here. Any ideas?
>
> Ally
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