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Edgar Iredale

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Russell W. Barnes <rwba...@globalnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> Tuscan Villa wasn't that old; it was a 19th Century folly! -
Workington
> Hall fell into neglect after the Royal Artillery were billeted there
during
> the last war, where they manned the coast battery on oldside shore
with the
> Home Guard.
> The council let it go that way; the same council, no doubt, that
butchered
> John St., the New Crown Hotel, Central Hotel, Edkin St, and St.
John's
> School, and built a "shopping centre" and "precinct" in its place.
>
> Russell W. B.
>
Russell,

Where was Tuscan Villa?

Wasn't the Hall given to the town but without funds to maintain it?

I've seen the mess round that new hotel - The Washington or something.
It always seems to be being dug up and changed. Our family used to
have houses round there. John Street, Edkin Street, Peter Street. My
grandparents lived in 23(?) Peter Street I think.

I once went to St John's School for a few days. I was packed off to
Workington before term finished because my Mum was ill. Some one
thought I needed to get the last week or two of schooling. It was
awful, and thankfully I can't remember much about it. What a thing to
do to a seven/eight year old 300 miles from home! I think my Grandma
realised my misery after a day or two and refused to send me again.
Luckily she had been a teacher in Workington so nobody in the family
argued about an educational matter!

Edgar

The Traveller

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and built a "shopping centre" and "precinct" in its place.

Isn't it ugly Russell.The whole area. Gone is The Galleon cafe and all those
nice cakes on three flight cake dishes serve by the lovely lady in the black
dress and white pinafore.

Edith.

Russell W. Barnes

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In article <8cl6uq$9ll$3...@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk>, "Edgar Iredale"
<Ed...@iredale-we.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

>Where was Tuscan Villa?

Tuscan Villa stood behind Whybrow Terrace, West of the Methodist
Church, in its own grounds off South William Street. On the
other (West) side stood a funeral directors and the RC primary
school. Opposite stood Murraydale Terrace and the URC church.

It was an interesting looking house, with, IIRC, octagonal or
hexagonal tall chimney stacks and large bay windows. There
were "ancient ruins" in the grounds, but were follies really. I
can't remember it being pulled down, but I suppose it was to
make way for the new Doctors' health-centre built on the same
site.


>
>Wasn't the Hall given to the town but without funds to maintain
it?

Workington Hall was given over to Workington Borough Council in
1946 by the then lady of the manor, Isabel Chance, to be
used "for the public good" - with plans, perhaps, to turn it
into a town hall and offices. Unfortunately, the borough
council let it rot beyond economic repair, and in the early
1970's, it was officially turned into a ruin, with the
demolition of some parts, and the lowering of some of the walls.

Like many youths, I remember ratching about in the ruins as a
kid in the 1960's, and can remember the ornate plasterwork and
grand staircase. We were always wary of "Galloping harry's
ghost" - said to have been killed by his french maid, who pulled
him down the stairs by his feet, banging his head on each step.
She scarpered with all his chattels, flogged them, and was never
seen again, evidently.
Rumour had it that there was a tunnel between either Workington
Hall and Burrow Walls, or Workington Hall and the harbour, but
probably just what it was - a rumour.


>
>I've seen the mess round that new hotel - The Washington or
something.
>It always seems to be being dug up and changed. Our family
used to
>have houses round there. John Street, Edkin Street, Peter
Street. My
>grandparents lived in 23(?) Peter Street I think.
>
>I once went to St John's School for a few days.

I went there! - 1964 to 1968, then it was demolished.


Russell W. B.
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Russell W. Barnes

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In article <peqH4.465$r6.3...@juliett.dax.net>, "The Traveller"
The rot set in in 1961, when a grand plan was hatched to build a
shopping precinct, and "seperate mechanical traffic from
pedestrians". Work started in 1969.

That said, it has improved slightly, and word is that
further "improvements" are afoot. The old PO is going to be a
restaurant, I believe. The shops are much improved, even though
most of the shops are the same as anywhere else. they tend to
change hands quite a bit, though. Bring back Ben Shaws, I
say....

RWB

The Traveller

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Very interesting Russell.

I once had a notion to buy Tuscon Villa but by X didn't want to give me the
pleasure of living at home while he spent his time roaming the big wide
world.

Murraydale Terrace and the URC church.

I have a photo of Murray Terrace. I found it worth while to take a photo
looking down the lane one sommer while flowers were in bloom. It was really
nice. Didn't resemble Workington at all when I got the photos developed.We
used to take short cuts through that back alley on the Monkey Run (Trot?) on
Sunday nights.

"Where are you going all dolled up like that?"
"Down on't Monkey Run, Dad!"

Unfortunately, the borough
> council let it rot beyond economic repair,

There should be Government grants for such things ?
My class visited Workington Hall in early 50's. There was still some
furniture in there. The colour- red - dominates my memory. There was an
uncovered well outside too has I remeber. Our teacher was very concerned so
we nosy kids were told to keep our distance.

Mary Queen of Scots stayed over at the Hall on her way to visit Queen
Elizabeth 1st in London. It was a journy from which she would never return.
One way of getting rid of Mary was to invite her to visit then have her
beheaded. I believe Mary and her soldiers crossed the sands from Scotland to
England by horse-back at low tide which gave them 11 hours before the tide
came in again filling the Solway. Does anyone know from where the Queen left
Scotland and at where did the party mount the shore banks in England on
their journy to London via Workington?

(The beheading makes one wonder a bit about peole's genes)

I'd say it's time for peace between all the countries and counties in Great
Britain-----and no more excuses.

Edith.

Edgar Iredale

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Russell,

Thank you for the information about Tuscan Villa. It's new to me, but
I've found it on an old map - I wasn't looking in the right places at
all. Big place it seems. Who had it?

Last Autumn we had a chat with a lady in the tourist office in Finkle
St. She, too, told us about playing on the stairs in The Hall. She
didn't tell us about galloping Harry. Wish I'd seen inside then. I
remember it as being well and truly locked up in the '50s. Round here
someone would certainly want to develop that super site - hotel,
superior flats, corporate head office, municipal centre (offices,
library, baths, leisure centre, etc) .....

I was told the tunnel went from Billy Bumbly House to the Hall and
that it was for contraband. I wonder what started the idea. Did the
mine levels link up across town? The old Isabella pit must have been
near B B house, and there was John pit near Roper St.

I can't remember just when I was at St John's, but I think it was the
very early '50s at the end of a summer term.

Edgar

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"The Traveller" <enil...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Very interesting Russell.
>
> I once had a notion to buy Tuscon Villa but by X didn't want to give me
the
> pleasure of living at home while he spent his time roaming the big wide
> world.
>
> Murraydale Terrace and the URC church.
>
> I have a photo of Murray Terrace. I found it worth while to take a photo
> looking down the lane one sommer while flowers were in bloom. It was
really
> nice. Didn't resemble Workington at all when I got the photos developed.We
> used to take short cuts through that back alley on the Monkey Run (Trot?)
on
> Sunday nights.
>
> "Where are you going all dolled up like that?"
> "Down on't Monkey Run, Dad!"
>
> Unfortunately, the borough
> > council let it rot beyond economic repair,
>
> There should be Government grants for such things ?
> My class visited Workington Hall in early 50's. There was still some
> furniture in there. The colour- red - dominates my memory. There was an
> uncovered well outside too has I remeber. Our teacher was very concerned
so
> we nosy kids were told to keep our distance.
>
> Mary Queen of Scots stayed over at the Hall on her way to visit Queen
> Elizabeth 1st in London. It was a journy from which she would never
return.
> One way of getting rid of Mary was to invite her to visit then have her
> beheaded. I believe Mary and her soldiers crossed the sands from Scotland
to
> England by horse-back at low tide which gave them 11 hours before the tide
> came in again filling the Solway. Does anyone know from where the Queen
left
> Scotland and at where did the party mount the shore banks in England on
> their journy to London via Workington?
>
> (The beheading makes one wonder a bit about peole's genes)
>
> I'd say it's time for peace between all the countries and counties in
Great
> Britain-----and no more excuses.
>
> Edith.
>
> So did I.
The Exile. oh for home sweet home


Russell W. Barnes

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In article <8cn4ak$mhv$1...@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk>, "Edgar Iredale"

Tuscan Villa was built in 1843 by a chap called John Guy, who
made his money, like others in Workington at that time, in the
straw hat business. he imported the straw from Tuscany, hence
the name.
<bit snipped....>


>I was told the tunnel went from Billy Bumbly House to the Hall
and
>that it was for contraband. I wonder what started the idea. Did
the
>mine levels link up across town?

Yes, to a certain degree.

The old Isabella pit must have been
>near B B house, and there was John pit near Roper St.

The old isabella pit was at the extreme west end of Chapel Bank,
near the rail crossing. When I worked at Chapel Bank in the
1970's, it was used for dumping waste cyanide down!!


Russell W. B.

Russell W. Barnes

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In article <ODBH4.650$r6.8...@juliett.dax.net>, "The Traveller"
<enil...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>(The beheading makes one wonder a bit about peole's genes)

Like diarrhoea, I suppose, is hereditary; It runs in one's genes
(jeans, geddit?) hahahahahahah!

Sorry....

RWB

Russell W. Barnes

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In article <ODBH4.650$r6.8...@juliett.dax.net>, "The Traveller"
<enil...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Mary Queen of Scots stayed over at the Hall on her way to visit
Queen
>Elizabeth 1st in London. It was a journy from which she would
never return.
>One way of getting rid of Mary was to invite her to visit then
have her
>beheaded. I believe Mary and her soldiers crossed the sands
from Scotland to
>England by horse-back at low tide which gave them 11 hours
before the tide
>came in again filling the Solway. Does anyone know from where
the Queen left
>Scotland and at where did the party mount the shore banks in
England on
>their journy to London via Workington?

Mary Queen of Scots sailed over in a small fishing boat, leaving
from the mouth of the Abbey burn, a few miles south of
Dundrennan Abbey. Apparently, she was met at Workington,
although I did read somewhere that she may have actually landed
at Allonby.

My Grandmother told me about the "Monkey Run". Was it still
going when you were a lass? One would get locked up for
stalking these days! - I have it on good authority that there
were those at Annie Pit (no family names mentioned!) who kept
their coal in the bath....

Russell W. B.

June Hughes

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In article <01d969bb...@usw-ex0105-038.remarq.com>, Russell W.
Barnes <rwbarnes...@globalnet.co.uk.invalid> writes

>
>The old isabella pit was at the extreme west end of Chapel Bank,
>near the rail crossing. When I worked at Chapel Bank in the
>1970's, it was used for dumping waste cyanide down!!
>
>
I worked at Chapel Bank until 1969. Don't remember you. Whereabouts
did you work?
--
June Hughes

The Traveller

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goddit.

Edith.

The Traveller

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> Mary Queen of Scots sailed over in a small fishing boat, leaving
> from the mouth of the Abbey burn, a few miles south of
> Dundrennan Abbey. Apparently, she was met at Workington,
> although I did read somewhere that she may have actually landed
> at Allonby.

Yes, that's what I heard. That Mary went ashore north of Workington
somewhere but why Allonby. I thought it was nearer Workington. Let's see
now. What would the coast line allow. High tide, low tide. Yep. Even with a
little fishing boat one could have difficulty landing, especially as they
were rowing boats in those days depending on wind and weather and time was
scarce because of the tides. But common sense (if I have any) tells me they
would try to come ashore nearer Workington and that is where the horse ride
came into the picture. ?????? I've got a feeling I was there.


>
> My Grandmother told me about the "Monkey Run". Was it still
> going when you were a lass? One would get locked up for
> stalking these days!

The 'Monkey Run' was still going on Russell and should go down in history
books has the way many Cumbrian youths found their spouse.Great fun.Gosh it
was such fun to get all dressed up in my best clothes on a Sunday night and
put on some max factor, mascara and lipstick and walk around and around the
block until I was dizzy feeling like a millionairess then catch the last bus
home feeling on top of the world because maybe som boy that I had a crush on
gave me a kiss and a hug or just brushed my arm. It made the coming week
seem so much easier to get through. Inocent bliss. Try and find some now
adays. You'll need a spying glass to find anything that even slightly
ressembles it.That's elementary dear Watson.

- I have it on good authority that there
> were those at Annie Pit (no family names mentioned!) who kept
> their coal in the bath....

I... Annie Pit was a renown place for many strange goings on. I bet the
place has a history of it's own that would make our hair stand on end. If
you take aside Annie Pit and do a specific research on the area I'm sure you
would find a lot of interesting factors that don't relate to the rest of the
town or area. A society within a society so to speak. When I was home in
1985 I heard that the nick named that had been given this area was' roach
valley' or something like that.That name wasn't at all colourful enough in
my oppinion.

Edith. (My spelling check has conked out again.( Swear!)


The Traveller

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> >1970's, it was used for dumping waste cyanide
Oh my God. And you are still alive. Would it leak out into the sea? Would it
form a lake under Victoria school? Would it become a gas?

Edith.

Edgar Iredale

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........................

> Tuscan Villa was built in 1843 by a chap called John Guy, who
> made his money, like others in Workington at that time, in the
> straw hat business. he imported the straw from Tuscany, hence
> the name.
......................

> >I was told the tunnel went from Billy Bumbly House to the Hall
> >and that it was for contraband. I wonder what started the idea.
> >Did the mine levels link up across town?
> Yes, to a certain degree.
>
> The old Isabella pit must have been
> >near B B house, and there was John pit near Roper St.
>
> The old isabella pit was at the extreme west end of Chapel Bank,
> near the rail crossing. When I worked at Chapel Bank in the
> 1970's, it was used for dumping waste cyanide down!!

Russell,

Never heard of the straw hat business - or of John Guy. Why Tuscan
straw?

Do you know a good book about Workington history? I've got "The Iron
& Steel Industry of West Cumberland" by Lancaster & Wattleworth, a
collection of county histories (Pason & White etc), and some Herbert &
Mary things, but would like something specific and detailed about
Workington.

I feel I should know about Chapel Bank but all I can find is about the
Chapel Bank Colliery - flooded and closed in 1837 - north of Annie Pit
Lane and west of the Railway. WNW of that is shown Lady Pit. The map
shows Isabella Pit just south of John Pier and well to the north of
Lady Pit, slightly north of a direct line West of St Michael's. Chapel
Bank colliery , Isabella Pit, and Lady Pit all seem to have closed at
the same time in 1837. I suppose they were all part of the same
complex.

Chapel Bank and Banklands were both Curwen collieries. Perhaps that
gives strength to the tunnel story.

Interesting about cyanide dumping - I wonder where it gets to down
there.

Edgar

P.S. It's just come to me as I was about to press the button. Chapel
Bank is the enormous factory building running along the slag bank
(where slags stash their tips?). Right? We used to call it Distington
Foundry or Distington Shore Works or something like that. What
happened to it? In about 1985 we were staying in a cottage at
Seatoller and I got a desperate urge to see Workington. We parked near
the harbour and walked around. It was quite different from my
memories. Lots of Edith's hated grassy banks, but then without even
the grass. The works looked pretty tired, but there were some long
wagons on the sidings. We bought a wire of delicious plaice in the
harbour. An Australian friend with us was rather taken with the area.
I think it said British Industrial Heritage to her. She was much less
chuffed another day when we saw Geiger counter men on Ravenglass
beach.

E

Russell W. Barnes

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In article <BRON$GA8HD...@theacct.demon.co.uk>, June Hughes
<juneh...@theacct.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>I worked at Chapel Bank until 1969. Don't remember you.
Whereabouts
>did you work?
>--

Before my time June - I started in 1975 as an apprentice
Electrician, and left in 1980 when the foundry shut. I worked
all over, but mostly in the foundry and CCSD (the new bit
opposite the drybread).

RWB

Russell W. Barnes

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In article <8cq67q$55b$1...@news8.svr.pol.co.uk>, "Edgar Iredale"
<Ed...@iredale-we.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

>Never heard of the straw hat business - or of John Guy. Why
Tuscan
>straw?

Italian wheat straw apparently had the right properties for the
type of hats manufactured. It was found later that Dunstable
straw did the job, and was more easy to grow in the UK.


>
>Do you know a good book about Workington history? I've
got "The Iron
>& Steel Industry of West Cumberland" by Lancaster & Wattleworth,

I've got this book; - v. good.


a
>collection of county histories (Pason & White etc), and some
Herbert &
>Mary things, but would like something specific and detailed
about
>Workington.

"The history Of Workington" by Richard Byers. ISBN 0 9529812 2
X @ 19.99 UKP Published by Richard Byers, PO Box 25,
Cockermouth, Cumbria.

Chapel Bank was the site for the Distington Engineering Company,
built with rapidity during WWII to manufacture special steel for
bearings. Originally the Distington Haemetite Iron Company, the
only connection with Distington was that the gates to the plant
came from Distington hall.
The name-deception was probably to confuse the enemy, and
interestingly enough, on Moresby Moss, above Distington, was
a "Q" bombimg decoy site to draw enemy bombs from the nearby
heavy industry.
Have a look at my web-site at:

http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~rwbarnes

Russell W. B.

INGHAMS

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We have big problems here in a lot of our old gold mining towns with
cyanide. Apparently it was used many years ago in the leaching process.
I've never heard of anyone dying from it though. They have signs up in some
parts not to drink the creek water though
Ray

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>
>> >1970's, it was used for dumping waste cyanide

The Traveller

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Gosh Russell. You are SO clever. Are you married?

§;ø) §;ø) §;ø)

Edith.

Russell W. Barnes

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>Gosh Russell. You are SO clever. Are you married?
>
Yup.....

RWB

The Traveller

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Yust Yoking-honest.

Congratulate the lucky lady.

Edith.

Steve P

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> > Mary Queen of Scots sailed over in a small fishing boat, leaving
> snip

>
> Edith. (My spelling check has conked out again.( Swear!)
>
>
>

You have a spell checker Edith?!?!

--
Steve P

To mail me remove the rubbish or use st2...@freeuk.com


The Traveller

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Huum, is that that little red button on the right?
And I'm not even blond.
What have you been doing today Steve?

Edith.

Edgar Iredale

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................................

> "The history Of Workington" by Richard Byers. ISBN 0 9529812 2
> X @ 19.99 UKP Published by Richard Byers, PO Box 25,
> Cockermouth, Cumbria.

Thank you. I'll get it.

> Chapel Bank was the site for the Distington Engineering Company,
> built with rapidity during WWII to manufacture special steel for
> bearings. Originally the Distington Haemetite Iron Company, the
> only connection with Distington was that the gates to the plant
> came from Distington hall.
> The name-deception was probably to confuse the enemy, and
> interestingly enough, on Moresby Moss, above Distington, was
> a "Q" bombimg decoy site to draw enemy bombs from the nearby
> heavy industry.

Didn't know about "Q" sites, although I was once told of such a thing
on Seal Sands.

> Have a look at my web-site at:
>
> http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~rwbarnes
>

Again thank you. I enjoyed it very much.

Edgar

Steve P

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Work work work. Mild hangover on Tuesday. Coupla beers on me b'day. gonna
have more at the weekend. More work on Wednesday, Thursday and Friday, now I
watchin telly and typing. Just seen Marianne Faithfull on [Never Mind the]
Buzzcocks, makes me feel old (cos she looks it).

The Traveller

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> I feel I should know about Chapel Bank but all I can find is about the
> Chapel Bank Colliery - flooded and closed in 1837

Chapel Bank was still going in 1960. I remember it so well. I went to
Carlisle Collage of Art at the time and this was when we still had to go to
school on Saturdays. I was waiting for the bus home one Saturday afternoon
with my drawing board under my arm and my school bag on my shoulder staring,
half asleep at the Town Hall. Then out walks the Mayor, The Prince of Norway
and some delegates. Haakon (mounts: can't remember the word for pulling up
the flag ) and closes some sort of deal with Chapel Bank Steel Works. I was
the only person that saw this.From then on I knew I would land up in
Norway.Little did the Prince know at that moment, that I was pregnant with
one of the Norwegian sea men who's ship docked only once in Workington- M/S
"Essex" to deliver bauxite to Chapel Bank and that he wasn't the only one
with a secret love in his heart that day- being Sonja, a student who went to
the same school has him and who is now his wife and Norway's Queen.

Edith.

The Traveller

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Hei Steve,

Happy birthday to you
Happy birthday to you
You look like a monkey
And you smell like one too.

Edith.


. Just seen Marianne Faithfull on [Never Mind the]
> Buzzcocks, makes me feel old (cos she looks it).

Don't know who she is. Must be before my time Steve. You are not old until
you order the fourteenth pint thinking it's your first.

Edith.


David Boyd

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It was Moss Bay Iron and Steelworks which imported the iron ore from
Norway at that time, Edith - Chapel Bank was a very big iron foundry and
heavy engineering works. (Although Chapel Bank Foundry probably sold
ingot moulds for casting steel to Norwegian steelworks.)
Seem to remember that most of this Norwegian iron ore was known as
Sydvaranger Concentrates - it was ground up fine at the Norwegian mines
and separated out from the low grade stuff by magnets before shipment.
Regards

David
--
David Boyd
mailto:da...@dboyd.demon.co.uk
Cumbria, UK

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I seem to remember that the deal definately had to do with Chapel Bank,
Dave. It had been closed for a while(?) and then the Norwegians came into
the picture and it was reopened. Ofcouse I could be wrong.
The iron ore (malm) shipped in from the North of Norway was for Mossbay
Steel Works. That was in the late 50's when the town was still alive.It came
from Varanger in the North.

Thank You
Regards Edith.

June Hughes

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In article <x40qYDAG...@screaming.net>, David Boyd
<Da...@dboyd.demon.co.uk> writes

>>
> (Although Chapel Bank Foundry probably sold
>ingot moulds for casting steel to Norwegian steelworks.)

Ah yes, I remember the ingot moulds at Chapel Bank, when I was a mere
computer programmer there in the late '60's. B-boom, b-boom! they went
when they were being tamped down!


--
June Hughes

David Boyd

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In article <7hhDDFAJ...@theacct.demon.co.uk>, June Hughes
<juneh...@theacct.demon.co.uk> writes

aka 'The Jolter'

Russell W. Barnes

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David Boyd wrote in message ...

>In article <7hhDDFAJ...@theacct.demon.co.uk>, June Hughes

>aka 'The Jolter'
>
I got my first electric shock as an apprentice electrician wiring a socket
on the jolter. It wasn't my last, either!

RWB

http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~rwbarnes

Steve P

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The Traveller <enil...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:nCXJ4.4982$r6.5...@juliett.dax.net...

> Hei Steve,
>
> Happy birthday to you
> Happy birthday to you
> You look like a monkey
> And you smell like one too.
>
> Edith.

Thanks Edith :-))

> . Just seen Marianne Faithfull on [Never Mind the]
> > Buzzcocks, makes me feel old (cos she looks it).
>
> Don't know who she is. Must be before my time Steve. You are not old until
> you order the fourteenth pint thinking it's your first.
>
> Edith.
>

60s singer and hippie - went out with Mick Jagger and others - NO not me!
Marianne Faithfull.

Russell W. Barnes

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>60s singer and hippie - went out with Mick Jagger and others - NO not me!
>Marianne Faithfull.
>
I remember her.... Didn't she have a thing about Mars Bars?

Ian E

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I love it!! It's impossible to mention Marianne Faithfull
without also bringing up the subject of Mars Bars. That
story has been running for 30 years. Can you just imagine
how sick she is of hearing it?!! She always denies of
course. Well, you would.

Ian

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The Traveller

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Mars Bars? Marianne Faithfull?What did she do with them?

Edith.

Kevin Tea

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Edith

>Mars Bars? Marianne Faithfull?What did she do with them?

Oh gawd, how can we put this in a genteel manner.

It is alleged that the aforementioned confectionery was placed in a female
orifice designed for procreation and that her then companion, obviously
feeling a drop in his blood-sugar level decided to consume it in-situ!

Regards

Kevin
I'd rather have a full bottle in front of me
than a full frontal lobotomy

The Traveller

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Aw! She shoved them up her ...nose, then.What a kink.

Edith.

Ian E

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In article <tBlL4.945$OQ3.1...@juliett.dax.net>, "The
Traveller" <enil...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Aw! She shoved them up her ...nose, then.

nose....?? procreation?? what position is that?

> What a kink.

No. Jagger was/is in The Stones. You are probably thinking
of Ray Davies.

The Traveller

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Lola, L-L-L-L-Lo..La

Edith.

June Hughes

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In article <8dil2q$ran$1...@gxsn.com>, Russell W. Barnes
<rwba...@globalnet.co.uk> writes

>
>>60s singer and hippie - went out with Mick Jagger and others - NO not me!
>>Marianne Faithfull.
>>
>I remember her.... Didn't she have a thing about Mars Bars?
>
>
That tells me you must be *really* old, Russell!
--
June Hughes

June Hughes

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In article <af0rfs8ebi7c3mrf6...@4ax.com>, Kevin Tea
<ke...@removeformail.ktc.co.uk> writes

>Edith
>
>>Mars Bars? Marianne Faithfull?What did she do with them?
>
>Oh gawd, how can we put this in a genteel manner.
>
>It is alleged that the aforementioned confectionery was placed in a female
>orifice designed for procreation and that her then companion, obviously
>feeling a drop in his blood-sugar level decided to consume it in-situ!
>
>
tastefully put, Kevin :)
--
June Hughes

Russell W. Barnes

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June Hughes wrote in message <3jngjEAVxh$4E...@theacct.demon.co.uk>...

>That tells me you must be *really* old, Russell!
>--

Er, not that old, thank you, June.... I probably thought at the time that it
was a waste of a Mars bar, nothing else 8¬) !

RWB

Russell W. Barnes

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d1x1e

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"Russell W. Barnes" <rwba...@globalnet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:8dil2q$ran$1...@gxsn.com...

>
> >60s singer and hippie - went out with Mick Jagger and others - NO not me!
> >Marianne Faithfull.
> >
> I remember her.... Didn't she have a thing about Mars Bars?
>
apparently it was gonna be a milky way, but she refused on the grounds that
it doesn't 'fill you up' between meals.

regards

d1x1e

Kevin Tea

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Edith

>Aw! She shoved them up her ...nose, then.What a kink.

How the hell did you ever manage to have kids then <g>.

Ian E

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>> Marianne Faithfull. I remember her.... Didn't she
>> have a thing about Mars Bars?

> apparently it was gonna be a milky way, but she
> refused on the grounds that it doesn't 'fill you up'
> between meals.

apparently it was gonna be a twix, but she refused on the
grounds that two fingers weren't filling enough.

Kevin Tea

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June

Thank you.Definitely one of my more diplomatic efforts <g>.

Regards

wifes...@gmail.com

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I would love to know more about Tuscan villa in Workington. I own Tuscan villa cottage and would like to know the history

Sleepalot

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On 29/07/2015 09:41, wifes...@gmail.com wrote:
> I would love to know more about Tuscan villa in Workington. I own Tuscan villa cottage and would like to know the history
>

"Here are two ship-building yards, and such other manufactories as are
common to similar ports; and, about 23 years ago, Mr. John Guy
established a patent leghorn(3) hat manufactory here, by which he
accumulated an independency, and, in 1843, erected a neat Gothic
residence, called Tuscan Villa, in Finkle-street. His son, J. Harrison
Guy, now carries on an extensive business in manufacturing, straw and
tuscan hats, &c; and, about six years since, Mr. Joseph Walker commenced
the growth and manufacture of tuscan straw, and is perhaps the only
person at present in England engaged in this branch."

Mannix & Whellan, History, Gazetteer and Directory of Cumberland, 1847

http://www.stevebulman.f9.co.uk/cumbria/workington_f.html

(3) Leghorn hats were made of straw.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Tuscan+hat&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAmoVChMIxq6Vt_mDxwIVjO0UCh0HRAxX&biw=1024&bih=614





KGB

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On Wed, 29 Jul 2015 01:41:37 -0700 (PDT), wifes...@gmail.com wrote:

>I would love to know more about Tuscan villa in Workington. I own Tuscan villa cottage and would like to know the history

I found this on Google
<http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/rd/699dbfe7-03d9-4e72-93a5-ad9093da293e>:-

"Reference: SMBWO 3/1926/10

Description:
Name of Owner: Mr. Byers. Name of Street: Tuscan Villa
Date: Jul 6 1926
Held by: Cumbria Archive and Local Studies Centre, Whitehaven."

Looks as though the above Studies Centre in Whitehaven may have some
records concerning the property, so could be worth paying them a visit
and quoting the above reference.

I certainly found historical records dating back nearly 250 years,
about our current house by visiting our local archive centre -
admittedly NOT Whitehaven.


KGB

Sleepalot

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On 31/07/2015 08:21, KGB (KGB) wrote:

Hello KG, how's it going?


KGB

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Quite well Sleepy. I've Just got back from a long trip to exotic
foreign parts - didn't meet any "nouveau riche" old friends in the
airport lounges though - perhaps I should have looked in the "tourist
class" areas. 8^)

Which reminds me, where are old friends when you need them. I seem to
remember somebody who once posted here being a self-confessed expert
on lithium batteries and I could do with some advice. I have some
lithium batteries which are showing distinct signs of swelling and
presumably need throwing out - I haven't had them very long so they're
clearly not very reliable. Should I dispose of them by hiding them in
the bottom of the wheelie bin, chuck 'em in the nearest river or what;
I'm lucky they are only small ones and aren't powering my "non
eco-friendly" diesel car. Actually a friend of mine recently bought
an electric car - the nearest public charging point is a round trip of
60 miles and his car has a practical range of 80 miles - I don't think
he goes very far in it.

By the way, I have read several articles in the national press (most
recently, the latest Sunday Telegraph) that polar bear populations are
increasing and Arctic ice is annually getting steadily thicker.

Regards

KGB

Sleepalot

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On 04/08/2015 22:50, KGB (KGB) wrote:
> On Mon, 03 Aug 2015 23:24:25 +0100, Sleepalot
> <sleep...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> On 31/07/2015 08:21, KGB (KGB) wrote:
>>
>> Hello KG, how's it going?
>>
> Quite well Sleepy. I've Just got back from a long trip to exotic
> foreign parts - didn't meet any "nouveau riche" old friends in the
> airport lounges though - perhaps I should have looked in the "tourist
> class" areas. 8^)

You sound like you're in good form. Me too, pottering about as usual.
I've taken to playing a free online multiplayer tank-battle game
tankionline.com

> Which reminds me, where are old friends when you need them. I seem to
> remember somebody who once posted here being a self-confessed expert
> on lithium batteries and I could do with some advice. I have some
> lithium batteries which are showing distinct signs of swelling and
> presumably need throwing out

Urgh. I wouldn't store them indoors. Maybe in a coffee can in the
garden. I think the place where you bought them might have to take
them back - but that's prolly not the least painful option.

- I haven't had them very long so they're
> clearly not very reliable. Should I dispose of them by hiding them in
> the bottom of the wheelie bin, chuck 'em in the nearest river or what;
> I'm lucky they are only small ones and aren't powering my "non
> eco-friendly" diesel car. Actually a friend of mine recently bought
> an electric car - the nearest public charging point is a round trip of
> 60 miles and his car has a practical range of 80 miles - I don't think
> he goes very far in it.

Lol. He didn't think that through, did he? The thing most people miss
is, is you can get enough charge in (say) 1/2 hr to get to the next
recharge point, what happens when there's more electric cars? You wait
3 hrs to get a 1/2 hour recharge at every recharge point? I predict
some very tense queues.

> By the way, I have read several articles in the national press (most
> recently, the latest Sunday Telegraph) that polar bear populations are
> increasing and Arctic ice is annually getting steadily thicker.

Both of those things are just alarmist talking points, serving only as
distractions from what's really going on in the world. I still follow
the topic, but the science is dead - it's just a propaganda war now.

> Regards
>
> KGB
>

KGB

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On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 00:22:59 +0100, Sleepalot
<sleep...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

Hi Sleepy

<snip>
>Lol. He didn't think that through, did he? The thing most people miss
>is, is you can get enough charge in (say) 1/2 hr to get to the next
>recharge point, what happens when there's more electric cars? You wait
>3 hrs to get a 1/2 hour recharge at every recharge point? I predict
>some very tense queues.
<snip>

We've also just been down to the South coast in my (shock, horror)
polluting diesel car. I filled it up with fuel a few days before we
left, did the trip without stopping and with plenty still in the tank
for a few days pottering whilst down there, before filling up for the
return trip.

Had my mate done the trip in his electric car I reckon it would have
taken him between 4-5 extra hours each way (allowing a few minutes to
turn off the Motorway and rejoin it afterwards plus around 45 mins for
charging - and as you say, that could be longer if the charging point
is occupied) making a 7 hour journey one of 12 hours or more; and
having to search for a charging point on arrival - if there is one.
Furthermore, what do you do whilst your car is charging at a Motorway
service area? You go and have a pee followed by an expensive cup of
coffee and a rip off stale cake to pass the time, making your journey
probably almost as expensive as a conventional car trip.

Regards

KGB

Sleepalot

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Aug 7, 2015, 4:40:59 PM8/7/15
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Or worse - an overnight stop.

Another one is the combination of recharge points in car parks -
a thing that that's never been done with petrol or diesel.
So, a person parks at a recharge point, plugs in for a half hour
charge, but occupies the space for 3 hrs. I predict meltdowns -
and not just of chargers and cars.


http://blog.caranddriver.com/alexander-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-tesla-model-s-p85d-road-trip/

>
> Regards
>
> KGB
>

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