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a l l y

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Feb 21, 2006, 5:57:08 PM2/21/06
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Anyone who thinks that designing websites is all about sitting around in an
office all day has never been asked to create one for a fell farmer. I've
just spent a lovely afternoon down at Wasdale visiting a client who sells
top quality fell-bred beef and Herdwick lamb, and the weather was just
perfect. We trundled around the edge of the fells in a landrover and took
loads of photos of the livestock, watched sheets of snow come down over
Skafell and got thoroughly muddy. Here are some of the photos we won't be
using (I have to keep the others for the client for the moment). Even
Sellafield looked beautiful in sillhouette with the golden sea behind it!
www.marshallmcgurk.com/stuff/the_side_room/wastrip.htm

It's going to be a great website - lovely people - top quality product -
spectacular scenery. I'll bore you all with a link to it when it's done.
Thoroughly on-topic, though - you can't get much more Cumbrian than this
place.

ally


The Traveller

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Feb 21, 2006, 7:37:53 PM2/21/06
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"a l l y" <al...@situponDOGGIEseats.co.uk> wrote in message
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Absolut fab, Ally. I'm impressed. Edinburgh - guess 1963.

Edith.


Norcot

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Feb 22, 2006, 3:54:00 AM2/22/06
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"a l l y" <al...@situponDOGGIEseats.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Anyone who thinks that designing websites is all about sitting around in
> an office all day has never been asked to create one for a fell farmer.
> I've just spent a lovely afternoon down at Wasdale visiting a client who
> sells top quality fell-bred beef and Herdwick lamb,


Lovely views, Ally. Very 'Cumbria'. I look forward to seeing the finished
website.


Rex.


a l l y

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Feb 22, 2006, 4:55:55 AM2/22/06
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"The Traveller" <no-...@spam.no> wrote in message
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> "a l l y" <al...@situponDOGGIEseats.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Absolut fab, Ally. I'm impressed. Edinburgh - guess 1963.
>
Ah - that one's been narrowed down to about 1968-69, by the way. I should
put that info up, shouldn't I?

ally


Joh...@ominous.portent

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Feb 22, 2006, 8:39:48 AM2/22/06
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More! More!

Johnny-loves-a-nice-photo

The Traveller

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Feb 22, 2006, 11:18:08 AM2/22/06
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"a l l y" <al...@situponDOGGIEseats.co.uk> wrote in message
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I tried remembering when the mini van was let out on the roads. A friend of
mine had one in 1975. You should have seen how they fit. Her: over 2 meters
tall, sits behind the wheel with knees to the roof. Comical.

Edith Disbelief.


a l l y

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Feb 22, 2006, 3:20:39 PM2/22/06
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<Joh...@ominous.portent> wrote in message
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Thank you! Once we've decided which ones to use for the website, I'll put
some more of the others on this page for you to see. What a photogenic spot!
Took me twice as long as it should have to get there - I kept stopping in
laybys and sticking my camera out of the window for quick pix of this and
that. Amazing. And a good time of year to visit - only a few tourists
visible. I'd guess it gets really busy in the summer.

ally


Joh...@ominous.portent

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Feb 22, 2006, 3:51:37 PM2/22/06
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> Thank you! Once we've decided which ones to use for the
> website, I'll put some more of the others on this page for
> you to see. What a photogenic spot! Took me twice as long
> as it should have to get there - I kept stopping in laybys
> and sticking my camera out of the window for quick pix of
> this and that. Amazing. And a good time of year to visit -
> only a few tourists visible. I'd guess it gets really busy
> in the summer.
>
> ally

I went as far south as Ennerdale last April. I believe Kez said
that was his favourite area, I was there on a sunny day and it
was beautiful, as it was throughout the western fells.

Johnny-fond-memories

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Feb 22, 2006, 3:55:44 PM2/22/06
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"a l l y" <al...@situponDOGGIEseats.co.uk> wrote in message
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In Cumbria,there's a motive each time you turn, Ally.

Edith.


a l l y

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<Joh...@ominous.portent> wrote in message
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>
> I went as far south as Ennerdale last April. I believe Kez said
> that was his favourite area, I was there on a sunny day and it
> was beautiful, as it was throughout the western fells.
>

Ennerdale - now there's another valley I want to explore. I keep racing past
on my way to Ravenglass or something. Belfagan dance at Ennerdale Bridge
most years, but I've never got right down the lakeside. Must make a point of
it this year.

ally


Jpinny

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Feb 22, 2006, 7:15:10 PM2/22/06
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There you go, Johnny. Evidence that the British had already had the word
"mini van" in common use since the 1970's. And it was really mini, and
really a van.

Jp

Norcot

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Feb 23, 2006, 4:04:50 AM2/23/06
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"Jpinny" <jpi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message >>

>>
> There you go, Johnny. Evidence that the British had already had the word
> "mini van" in common use since the 1970's. And it was really mini, and
> really a van.
>
> Jp

I can push it back a bit further. I had a green minivan in 1968. I remember
collecting my first daughter from the maternity hospital. I went with a
clothes basket in the back of the van for her to sleep in on the way home.


Rex


a l l y

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Feb 23, 2006, 5:14:05 AM2/23/06
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"Norcot" <nor...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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We had neighbours who had a mini-moke. Do you remember them? A sort of
unholy cross between a mini and a landrover - bizarre thing. Their
justification for possession of this object was that they had lived in
Africa for a time. They never really got the hang of living on the top floor
of an Edinburgh tenement.

ally


Jpinny

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Feb 23, 2006, 8:29:31 AM2/23/06
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Awww, isn't that sweet!

(Nowadays you'd get pulled over for not having her in a kite marked
safety seat.)


Jp

Joh...@ominous.portent

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Feb 23, 2006, 9:39:19 AM2/23/06
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> There you go, Johnny. Evidence that the British had already
> had the word "mini van" in common use since the 1970's. And
> it was really mini, and really a van.
>
> Jp

Then why didn't they simply use the term in the eighties when
the 'minivan' as we now know it hit the streets? Why invent the
term 'people carrier'? That's what I find strange about the
Brits. Always inventing new terms for things that already exist.
I know, you'll say it's because a British minivan was something
else. But come on. They could just move with the times.

In the US/NA there were vans before the minivan. I owned one. It
was technically a truck and built for commercial use. Mine was
an old telephone company vehicle. Then Chrysler started building
a family-oriented version on a car chasis and called it the
minivan.

Interestingly, GM, behind the times as usual, couldn't design
their own fast enough so they kept the truck underneath and put
a slightly more modern family-oriented upper on it and called it
the 'astrovan'. Got horrible gas milage due to it's weight and
was a piece of crap, had a horrible safety record but was dirt
cheap. Don't ever get hit by one of those. They are solid iron.

Johnny-rehashing-old-argument

Joh...@ominous.portent

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Feb 23, 2006, 9:42:11 AM2/23/06
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> I can push it back a bit further. I had a green minivan in
> 1968. I remember collecting my first daughter from the
> maternity hospital. I went with a clothes basket in the
> back of the van for her to sleep in on the way home.
>
>
> Rex

Necessity being the mother of invention?

Johnny-curious

www.stridingedge.net

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Feb 23, 2006, 9:53:08 AM2/23/06
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> More! More!
>
> Johnny-loves-a-nice-photo

Some more Wasdale photos from last Friday.
http://www.stridingedge.net/Walks/2006/02.%20February/17.02.06.htm

Ennerdale:
http://www.stridingedge.net/Walks/2005/05.%20May/09.05.05.htm

a l l y

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Feb 23, 2006, 11:06:27 AM2/23/06
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<Joh...@ominous.portent> wrote in message
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>> There you go, Johnny. Evidence that the British had already
>> had the word "mini van" in common use since the 1970's. And
>> it was really mini, and really a van.
>>
>> Jp
>
> Then why didn't they simply use the term in the eighties when
> the 'minivan' as we now know it hit the streets? Why invent the
> term 'people carrier'? That's what I find strange about the
> Brits. Always inventing new terms for things that already exist.
> I know, you'll say it's because a British minivan was something
> else. But come on. They could just move with the times.
>
> In the US/NA there were vans before the minivan. I owned one. It
> was technically a truck and built for commercial use. Mine was
> an old telephone company vehicle. Then Chrysler started building
> a family-oriented version on a car chasis and called it the
> minivan.
>
Er... there's another kind of minivan? Something not based on a mini car,
you mean? Are you telling us some people call people-carriers minivans? Huh?

ally-maybe-needs-to-get-out-more


Osi...@gmail.com

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Feb 23, 2006, 11:17:36 AM2/23/06
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Here is my website for my Mini Moke http://austinmini.ositech.net

a l l y

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"www.stridingedge.net" <seanm...@stridingedge.net> wrote in message
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These are gorgous photos. And how nice to know the names of the mountains...
Maybe you can tell me the name of the one on my site that I've labelled
just, "one of the fells overlooking Wast Water"? Yeah, I know, I should look
it up on a map, but the map's downstairs and I'm upstairs and feeling
lazy...

ally


www.stridingedge.net

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Feb 23, 2006, 11:27:03 AM2/23/06
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> These are gorgous photos. And how nice to know the names of the mountains...
> Maybe you can tell me the name of the one on my site that I've labelled
> just, "one of the fells overlooking Wast Water"? Yeah, I know, I should look
> it up on a map, but the map's downstairs and I'm upstairs and feeling
> lazy...
>
> ally

That is Middle Fell. You had a great day for photos there.

a l l y

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Feb 23, 2006, 11:29:42 AM2/23/06
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<Osi...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Here is my website for my Mini Moke http://austinmini.ositech.net

Looks like you've put a lot more work into yours than our old neighbours put
into theirs! It was a purely utilitarian vehicle, with the sides built up
from some sort of chipboard iirc and covered with a slap of army-coloured
paint - they drove it into the ground in the end. Obviously makes a
difference if you actually love your car.

ally


Jpinny

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Feb 23, 2006, 11:52:12 AM2/23/06
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Joh...@ominous.portent wrote:
>> There you go, Johnny. Evidence that the British had already
>> had the word "mini van" in common use since the 1970's. And
>> it was really mini, and really a van.
>>
>> Jp
>
> Then why didn't they simply use the term in the eighties when
> the 'minivan' as we now know it hit the streets?

Because it didn't look like a minivan, which looks like this, found on
Google. It was a tiny little thing.

http://www.bobleroi.co.uk/ScrapBook/CarsMotoring/Van.jpg

The Police had their own version, white, with a blue light on top and
the Royal Mail ones were bright red.

Why invent the
> term 'people carrier'? That's what I find strange about the
> Brits. Always inventing new terms for things that already exist.
> I know, you'll say it's because a British minivan was something
> else. But come on. They could just move with the times.
>
> In the US/NA there were vans before the minivan. I owned one. It
> was technically a truck and built for commercial use. Mine was
> an old telephone company vehicle. Then Chrysler started building
> a family-oriented version on a car chasis and called it the
> minivan.

So now we know why it was called a minivan there. It's more like a
minibus, though. I'd like more headroom and legroom - especially for our
trip up to Canada in 2 weeks, but I couldn't justify a seven seater at
the developmental stage of my family, and although great for soccer moms
pooling rides, they're not exactly to-die-for.

Here's the perfect car for the expatriate Brit Chic in Long Island:

http://www.seriouswheels.com/pics-jkl/Jaguar-XK8-Convertible-Austin-Powers-1024x768.jpg

>
> Interestingly, GM, behind the times as usual, couldn't design
> their own fast enough so they kept the truck underneath and put
> a slightly more modern family-oriented upper on it and called it
> the 'astrovan'. Got horrible gas milage due to it's weight and
> was a piece of crap, had a horrible safety record but was dirt
> cheap. Don't ever get hit by one of those. They are solid iron.
>

Thankyou for your advice.

Jp

Jpinny

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Feb 23, 2006, 12:14:06 PM2/23/06
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Osi...@gmail.com wrote:
> Here is my website for my Mini Moke http://austinmini.ositech.net
>
It's been Californized!!

Jp

Joh...@ominous.portent

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Terrific. Thanks.

Johnny-jealous

Joh...@ominous.portent

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Feb 23, 2006, 1:35:49 PM2/23/06
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> Er... there's another kind of minivan? Something not based
> on a mini car, you mean? Are you telling us some people
> call people-carriers minivans? Huh?
>
> ally-maybe-needs-to-get-out-more

Try hopping over the pond sometime. There's two sides to every
pond, I guess.

According to JP, a long time ago in Britain there was a Mini
(brand name) van. Whereas over here, Chrysler invented the
'minivan' which appeared several years later in Britain under
the name 'people carrier'.

Use the term 'people carrier' over here and they won't know what
you are on about. They might take a wild guess that you mean one
of those moving sidewalks at airports.

Johnny-explanatory

Jpinny

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Feb 23, 2006, 2:01:25 PM2/23/06
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There you go! I'm picking up the same British feeling that I have that
someone hi-jacked a good word for something not very mini, and more
bussy than vanny.

Try Googling "Minivan" and see what you get. There's a place called
Minivan in the Maldives!

Jp

Osi...@gmail.com

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Feb 23, 2006, 2:48:55 PM2/23/06
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Not to worry as it's moving to Texas in a few months. I figure a pair
of bullhorns on the bonnet should make it feel at home there - lol.

a l l y

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"Jpinny" <jpi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>>>
>> Er... there's another kind of minivan? Something not based on a mini car,
>> you mean? Are you telling us some people call people-carriers minivans?
>> Huh?
>>
>> ally-maybe-needs-to-get-out-more
> There you go! I'm picking up the same British feeling that I have that
> someone hi-jacked a good word for something not very mini, and more bussy
> than vanny.
>
So it's a big vehicle, and it's not a van. Hmm. Well-chosen name, eh? I
dunno. I sometimes wonder if Americans have ever really got to grips with
the English language.

ally


a l l y

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"Jpinny" <jpi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Try Googling "Minivan" and see what you get.

Good lord, you're right. I've just gone through several pages of Google
Images, all full of things called 'minivan' and not one of them looks even
slightly like a minivan. There's everything from a minibus through various
people carriers and MPVs to things that just look like glorified estate
cars. None of them looks like a van, nor are any of them particularly small,
so where does the 'mini' bit come from?

In fact, my Citroën Berlingo would almost pass as a minivan if I were to
drive it in the States. (Mine looks very like this one, except it's a bit
muddier and the wheel trims are different -
http://makeashorterlink.com/?Y230252BC )

ally


a l l y

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"Jpinny" <jpi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> Because it didn't look like a minivan, which looks like this, found on
> Google. It was a tiny little thing.
>
> http://www.bobleroi.co.uk/ScrapBook/CarsMotoring/Van.jpg

Yes, that's a minivan. I can't imagine anything else being called a minivan.
It's a van, and it's small, and what's more, it's based on a mini (car). So
it's a minivan. QEF.


>
> Here's the perfect car for the expatriate Brit Chic in Long Island:
>
> http://www.seriouswheels.com/pics-jkl/Jaguar-XK8-Convertible-Austin-Powers-1024x768.jpg

Oh dear. That's really tacky, isn't it? Though, from an expat leftpondian
point of view, it's probably pretty swanky. When we move to foreign parts,
most people do become a bit more patriotic than they were back home.

ally


Jpinny

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Osi...@gmail.com wrote:
> Not to worry as it's moving to Texas in a few months. I figure a pair
> of bullhorns on the bonnet should make it feel at home there - lol.
>
Good idea. I can just imagine some redneck flatbed pickup trying to
intimidate it otherwise.

Jp

Jpinny

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a l l y wrote:
That's exactly what that is! It's a European Mom-Mobile!

Jp

a l l y

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Thanks. I've now updated the page with the correct name.

Not a very imaginative name, is it? I like these mountains called things
like Steeple, Pillar and so on. D'you think they'd run out of ideas when
they found that one? ;-)

ally


Jpinny

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Feb 23, 2006, 4:07:34 PM2/23/06
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Except that that model's not got seats for any kids, I see.

Jp

a l l y

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"Jpinny" <jpi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>>>
>>> In fact, my Citroën Berlingo would almost pass as a minivan if I were to
>>> drive it in the States. (Mine looks very like this one, except it's a
>>> bit muddier and the wheel trims are different -
>>> http://makeashorterlink.com/?Y230252BC )
>>>
>>> ally
>>>
>> That's exactly what that is! It's a European Mom-Mobile!
>>
>> Jp
> Except that that model's not got seats for any kids, I see.
>
It has room for 3 people in the back: the seats can be folded flat all
together, or you can fold down one, leaving 2 up, or 2, leaving 1 up. With
all down flat the back really is a van and I can load it up with customers'
chairs and stuff. With the seats up I can fill it up with friends, or their
kids, and there's still a lot of space behind the seats for luggage or large
dogs. Perfect. With the seats down flat you could easily sleep in the back
if you put up some curtains. The only problem is that it's a French car, and
bits keep falling off it. I want a Japanese version.

ally


Joh...@ominous.portent

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> Good lord, you're right.

It was bound to happen.

> I've just gone through several
> pages of Google Images, all full of things called 'minivan'
> and not one of them looks even slightly like a minivan.
> There's everything from a minibus through various people
> carriers and MPVs to things that just look like glorified
> estate cars. None of them looks like a van, nor are any of
> them particularly small, so where does the 'mini' bit come
> from?
>
> In fact, my Citroën Berlingo would almost pass as a minivan
> if I were to drive it in the States. (Mine looks very like
> this one, except it's a bit muddier and the wheel trims are
> different - http://makeashorterlink.com/?Y230252BC )
>
> ally

Yours looks a little more commercial, what with no seats in the
back. Minivans are for soccer moms. Hauling kids and groceries
is what they are for. And the occasional trip to Disneyworld.
They are slightly smaller, more aerodynamic and definitely
lighter and therefore better on gas than their predecessors
'vans'.

Johnny-ex-Nissan-Quest-minivan-owner

a l l y

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>
> Yours looks a little more commercial, what with no seats in the
> back. Minivans are for soccer moms. Hauling kids and groceries
> is what they are for. And the occasional trip to Disneyworld.
> They are slightly smaller, more aerodynamic and definitely
> lighter and therefore better on gas than their predecessors
> 'vans'.
>
No, no, they do have seats in the back - the one in the pic just has them
folded down. Look - here's mine - you can just about make out the seat rests
of the back seasts -
www.marshallmcgurk.com/stuff/the_side_room/otherpix/frontcar.jpg

Can't find any photos of it with the seats actually occupied by people, but
there's room for 3 in the back, complete with seat belts.

ally


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"Norcot" <nor...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Jpinny" <jpi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message >>
> >>
> > There you go, Johnny. Evidence that the British had already had the word
> > "mini van" in common use since the 1970's. And it was really mini, and
> > really a van.
> >
> > Jp
>
> I can push it back a bit further. I had a green minivan in 1968. I
remember
> collecting my first daughter from the maternity hospital. I went with a
> clothes basket in the back of the van for her to sleep in on the way home.
>
>
> Rex

:0) Where did her mother sit, Rex? On the roof?

Edith in Wonderland.


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"Jpinny" <jpi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Well, I was driving down, the 59 Highway
Saw a mini van and it was going my way
It looked a bit suspicious, it didn't look any too clean, oh no.
Well, I jammed on my breaks and I opened the door
I could see he was a bum by the muddy boots he wore
He said I'm going down up to Carlisle, gor a woman out in Aberdeen

Edith Mix


The Traveller

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"Jpinny" <jpi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Then there's the bread box on wheels. Oh! Did I start another thread.

Edith in Reverse.


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<Joh...@ominous.portent> wrote in message
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> Johnny-ex-Nissan-Quest-minivan-owner

And you admit to THAT. Don't come to any more boinks.

Edith-ThinksBIG.


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>
>
> > More! More!
> >
> > Johnny-loves-a-nice-photoBlimey. That's phenomenal. I'm in luuuuurv.

Angus.......Aaaaaangu u u rrrrs.....................are you there my
darling.

Yours forever, Edith.


The Traveller

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<Osi...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Here is my website for my Mini Moke http://austinmini.ositech.net
>
Helllpp. Helllllllllllllp! I feel faint. Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelp!
....................... They're awful.

Edith Beach-buggy.


Norcot

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">>
>> I can push it back a bit further. I had a green minivan in 1968. I
> remember
>> collecting my first daughter from the maternity hospital. I went with a
>> clothes basket in the back of the van for her to sleep in on the way
>> home.
>>
>>
>> Rex
>
> :0) Where did her mother sit, Rex? On the roof?
>
> Edith in Wonderland.
>
Not on that occasion, Edith. When Nicola was born they detected a heart
arrythmia so her mum came home alone leaving new baby in hopsital. I picked
Nicola up some days later, in my mini van. Does that satisfy your boundless
curiosity?

Rex. PS Nicola grew to be a healthy young lady and now has two children of
her own.


The Traveller

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The whole history was just lovely. My daughter slept in a clothes basket on
the floor in my mother's cabin, 7 months old, on The M/S Bræmar - or was it
Blenheim, in 1961 when we sailed out from Newcastle docks, emigrating to
Norway.

I love clothes baskets but I wish I hadn't stepped aboard
Edith.


Osi...@gmail.com

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Don't blame me, blame Sir Alec Ignosis - lol.

Joh...@ominous.portent

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> No, no, they do have seats in the back - the one in the pic
> just has them folded down. Look - here's mine - you can
> just about make out the seat rests of the back seasts -
> www.marshallmcgurk.com/stuff/the_side_room/otherpix/frontcar
> .jpg
>
> Can't find any photos of it with the seats actually
> occupied by people, but there's room for 3 in the back,
> complete with seat belts.
>
> ally

It's more of a mini-minivan as most minivans have seven seats
total. A few claim eight.

You need to clean up your licesne plate! Driving around with an
obscured plate is a serious offence here.

Johnny-just-kidding-about-the-plate-of-course

Joh...@ominous.portent

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> And you admit to THAT. Don't come to any more boinks.
>
> Edith-ThinksBIG.

You know I only go to the ones you are not at.

Johnny-only-goes-to-the-good-boinks

The Traveller

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> Don't blame me, blame Sir Alec Ignosis - lol.
>
Ok. Green toads on him.

Edith Tittering.


The Traveller

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Yeah. That's the kind of stinker you are.

:o))))) Got one in there.
Edith.


Joh...@ominous.portent

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> Yeah. That's the kind of stinker you are.
>
>:o))))) Got one in there.

> Edith.

I'm going to sit right up next to you if we ever meet at a
boink. We'll soon find out whose eyes start running first.

Johnny-will-go-on-a gruelling-fellwalk-that-day

The Traveller

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Edith will wear a string of garlic onions around her neck.

Edith.


Joh...@ominous.portent

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> Edith will wear a string of garlic onions around her neck.
>
> Edith.

So you're not going to do anything special then?

Johnny-zinger

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he's only an unbathed Canuck not a vampire.

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For you. Anything. Be prepared.

Edith.


Joh...@ominous.portent

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> For you. Anything. Be prepared.
>
> Edith.

Uh-Oh!

Johnny-Uh-Oh

The Traveller

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Chuckling.

Edith-Chuckling.


a l l y

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<Joh...@ominous.portent> wrote in message
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>
> It's more of a mini-minivan as most minivans have seven seats
> total. A few claim eight.
>
Too many for me. But going up to Edinburgh at the weekend I had the back
filled with chairs to deliver to customers, flattened cardboard boxes for my
son who's about to move house again, a redundant printer being passed on to
someone who needed it, birthday pressies for an old friend, food & bedding
for my stay, and various other paraphanalia that more or less filled the
back of the thing. How on earth did I ever manage with an ordinary car?

> You need to clean up your licesne plate! Driving around with an
> obscured plate is a serious offence here.
>
> Johnny-just-kidding-about-the-plate-of-course

Just as well it was parked on my own land at the time then, eh?

ally


Joh...@ominous.portent

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> Too many for me. But going up to Edinburgh at the weekend I
> had the back filled with chairs to deliver to customers,
> flattened cardboard boxes for my son who's about to move
> house again, a redundant printer being passed on to someone
> who needed it, birthday pressies for an old friend, food &
> bedding for my stay, and various other paraphanalia that
> more or less filled the back of the thing. How on earth did
> I ever manage with an ordinary car?

We miss our minivan's hauling capability, what with the
continuing home renovations. My wife's new car is better than a
sedan but nowhere near the capacity of a minivan. It's
supposedly a five seater but with suitcases and skis, it's
really only good for three comfortably. But it's better than
twice as efficient on gas.

http://www.toyota.ca/cgi-
bin/WebObjects/WWW.woa/6/wo/Home.Vehicles.Go.Matrix-
stknGEytCmHGOzf56n2tI0/7.15?index%2ehtml

Good luck stitching all that back together.

Johnny-too-lazy-to-make-a-shorter-link

Jpinny

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It's a nice looking car. I see lots of them on the road around here.

Jp

Ron Peacock

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These are wonderful pictures never had the honour of visiting Wasdale or
Ennerdale.


a l l y

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"Ron Peacock" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> These are wonderful pictures never had the honour of visiting Wasdale or
> Ennerdale.
>
Are you far from Cumbria then?

ally


Ron Peacock

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Indeed I am Ally and proud of it too.

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a l l y

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"Ron Peacock" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> Indeed I am Ally and proud of it too.

Huh? You're proud to be far away from Cumbria? How odd. How far are you
then?

ally

Ron Peacock

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Ally I misread your question I thought it was "Are you from Cumbria then?"

I am from Cumbria and proud of it, born and bread there. A true Cumbrian.

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a l l y

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"Ron Peacock" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> Ally I misread your question I thought it was "Are you from Cumbria
> then?"
>
> I am from Cumbria and proud of it, born and bread there. A true Cumbrian.
>

Delighted to meet you sir. But you don't live here now?

ally-doing-Edith's-job-&-being-nosey


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Carlisle


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a l l y

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"Alfred Packer" <Alfred...@LakeCity.com> wrote in message
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>a l l y wrote:
>> "Ron Peacock" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:du2jjv$t32$1...@nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
>>> Ally I misread your question I thought it was "Are you from Cumbria
>>> then?"
>>>
>>> I am from Cumbria and proud of it, born and bread there. A true
>>> Cumbrian.
>>
>> Delighted to meet you sir. But you don't live here now?
>>
>> ally-doing-Edith's-job-&-being-nosey
>
> evening Ally you're early tonight.
>
I am? Um. I have to go to bed early too, and get up early, as I have an
appointment first thing. <sigh>

ally


a l l y

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"Ron Peacock" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> Carlisle
>
Aha! So you're not one of our expats. So really, there's nothing stopping
you from visiting Ennerdale or Wasdale. Hmm... If you behave yourself, you
may be invited to a boink before long....

ally


The Traveller

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"a l l y" <al...@situponDOGGIEseats.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> "Ron Peacock" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:du2cjc$bva$1...@nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
> > Indeed I am Ally and proud of it too.
>
> Huh? You're proud to be far away from Cumbria? How odd. How far are you
> then?
>
> ally

I bet he is in Scotland.

Edith.

The Traveller

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Listen here, Pinocchio. He's frae................adunno where e's frae.
Where yuh frae Ron o the Peacocks?

Here's a question for ye. "Do you save Matchbox cars?"

Edith.


The Traveller

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Huh! He's not coming to my boink. He's from CARLISLE.
Unless.............unless he asks nicely.

Edith.

ps: I save teddybears, teapots and Latin Americans.


a l l y

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>
> ps: I save teddybears, teapots and Latin Americans.
>

What exactly do you save them from, may I ask?

Reminds me of this cartoon with one of those loud-mouthed preachers standing
on a soapbox, shouting, "Have you been saved?" while a crowd of assorted
foreign stamps standing in the crowd give each other puzzled looks.

ally


a l l y

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You lost your bet. Unless the Scots have managed to reclaim Carlisle while
I've been asleep.

ally


The Traveller

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lol.

Edith


The Traveller

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You never know with those Scots.

Edith

ps. I know who he is and he is in Australia.


a l l y

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So why does he claim to be in Carlisle?

ally


The Traveller

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"a l l y" <al...@situponDOGGIEseats.co.uk> wrote in message
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> >> >> "Ron Peacock" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:du2cjc$bva$1...@nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
> >> >> > Indeed I am Ally and proud of it too.
> >> >>
> >> >> Huh? You're proud to be far away from Cumbria? How odd. How far are
> >> >> you
> >> >> then?
> >> >>
> >> >> ally
> >> >
> >> > I bet he is in Scotland.
> >> >
> >>
> >> You lost your bet. Unless the Scots have managed to reclaim Carlisle
> >> while
> >> I've been asleep.
> >>
> >> ally
> >>
> > You never know with those Scots.
> >
> > Edith
> >
> > ps. I know who he is and he is in Australia.
> >
> So why does he claim to be in Carlisle?
>
> ally
>
He's trying to jinks us.

A bus station is where a bus stops.
A train station is where a train stops.

On my desk, I have a work station....

what more can I say........

Edith, snowed in.

Ron Peacock

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Why do you not like Carlisle people Edith?

WHAT IS A BOINK?

Please can I come to yours?

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"Do you save Matchbox cars?" NO


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Ron Peacock

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OK lets pretend that I'm in Scotland lets say between Dumfries and Edinburgh
why not Moffat yes lets pretend that I live in "The Devils Beef Tub"


Joh...@ominous.portent

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> OK lets pretend that I'm in Scotland lets say between
> Dumfries and Edinburgh why not Moffat yes lets pretend that
> I live in "The Devils Beef Tub"

Do you realise you are cross posting?

Just curious. If you have a good reason for it, fine, but if
you're just being careless, well that's frowned on around here.

Johnny-trimmed-out-the-cross-posts

Ron Peacock

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The later so sorry
have a few gremlins with my computer

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Lister

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on Wed, 1 Mar 2006 19:01:25 +0000 (UTC), "Ron Peacock"
<nos...@nospam.com> wrote:

I used to live in Moffat

a l l y

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"Ron Peacock" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> Why do you not like Carlisle people Edith?

Good question. Edith? Answer the nice man!

>
> WHAT IS A BOINK?


boink: /boynk/
2. n. After the original Peter Korn 'Boinkon' Usenet parties, used for
almost any net social gathering, e.g., Miniboink, a small boink held by
Nancy Gillett in 1988; Minniboink, a Boinkcon in Minnesota in 1989;
Humpdayboinks, Wednesday get-togethers held in the San Francisco Bay Area.
Compare @-party.

Uklc boinks tend to be held when one or more of our expat members comes to
the fair shores of Cumbria: everybody descends on some pub or other, eats
food, drinks many pints of Jennings, and, if it's a good night, live music
will be played as well, as many of us are musicians.

>
> Please can I come to yours?
>

If you're good....

ally


a l l y

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>
> A bus station is where a bus stops.
> A train station is where a train stops.
>
> On my desk, I have a work station....
>
A bus station is where a bus starts its journey from.
A train station is where a train starts its journey from.
Your work starts at your work station.

It's the old glass half-empty/half-full thing again, really.

ally


a l l y

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"Ron Peacock" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> OK lets pretend that I'm in Scotland lets say between Dumfries and
> Edinburgh
> why not Moffat yes lets pretend that I live in "The Devils Beef Tub"
>
Any creature hanging around there is likely to get eaten by the Devil sooner
or later...

ally


a l l y

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<Joh...@ominous.portent> wrote in message
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So he is. And to my local Edinburgh newsgroup too, amongst others! What's
your Scottish connection, Ronnie lad?

ally


Joh...@ominous.portent

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>> Do you realise you are cross posting?
>>
>> Just curious. If you have a good reason for it, fine, but
>> if you're just being careless, well that's frowned on
>> around here.
>>
> So he is. And to my local Edinburgh newsgroup too, amongst
> others! What's your Scottish connection, Ronnie lad?
>
> ally

I tried to be nice about it. It took all the self control I
could muster. But I think it was worth the effort. Seems like a
nice guy.

Johnny-muster

Joh...@ominous.portent

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> Uklc boinks tend to be held when one or more of our expat
> members comes to the fair shores of Cumbria: everybody
> descends on some pub or other, eats food, drinks many pints
> of Jennings, and, if it's a good night, live music will be
> played as well, as many of us are musicians.
>
>>
>> Please can I come to yours?
>>
> If you're good....
>
> ally

I think you should point out that attendance is by invitation
only. So one needs to merit an invitation.

Or does that just apply to me?

Johnny-more-on-boinks

The Traveller

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> >OK lets pretend that I'm in Scotland lets say between Dumfries and
Edinburgh
> >why not Moffat yes lets pretend that I live in "The Devils Beef Tub"
>
> I used to live in Moffat

I bet you are from Salterbeck and married to a Scottish lass, or the other
way round. Are you, and why are you cross posting? Notice, I'm trying not
to.

Edith.


Joh...@ominous.portent

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>> I used to live in Moffat
>
> I bet you are from Salterbeck and married to a Scottish
> lass, or the other way round. Are you, and why are you
> cross posting? Notice, I'm trying not to.
>
> Edith.

Please try to keep up, Edith. We already addressed the cross-
posting issue.

I married your distant cousin in Scotland and neither she nor I
was from Salterbeck.

Just thought I'd mention that again.

It's been a little boring around here recently, have you
noticed?

Thank goodness for Tony R and the Lakelandcam. Great photos from
the Tebay area, just up the road from Firbank where my people
once lived.

Not to mention Mad About Mountains which has some lovely photos
today (as always) from up above Derwentwater where I like to go
walking. My favourite is the Seathwaite Valley and surrounding
fells from High Seat summit.

Johnny-bored


a l l y

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<Joh...@ominous.portent> wrote in message
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>> Uklc boinks tend to be held when one or more of our expat
>> members comes to the fair shores of Cumbria: everybody
>> descends on some pub or other, eats food, drinks many pints
>> of Jennings, and, if it's a good night, live music will be
>> played as well, as many of us are musicians.
>>
>>>
>>> Please can I come to yours?
>>>
>> If you're good....
>>
>> ally
>
> I think you should point out that attendance is by invitation
> only. So one needs to merit an invitation.

Quite. The details of the time and venue are distributed by email, not on
the ng.


>
> Or does that just apply to me?

Certainly not. With the boinks I've organised, at least, I'll advertise the
fact there's one coming up, and ask people who are interested to email me.
Only then do they get the details. So far nobody "unsuitable" has ever asked
to come - not sure what I'd do if that happened, or how I'd decide about
their unsuitability anyway. It's hardly up to me, really. So long as they've
been around uklc for a while, and we've all got a pretty good idea of what
they're about, then it's usually fine. They may well be axe-murderers in
their spare time, but so long as the regulars here have accepted them, and
they leave their axe at home, it should be ok. Safety in numbers and all
that...

So, there ya go, Ron. If you want to come to the next boink. you'll need to
convince us!

ally


Jpinny

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Oh! Nobody actually invited me. I had to pester to find out where it was.

Jp

Joh...@ominous.portent

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Mar 2, 2006, 8:28:06 AM3/2/06
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> Oh! Nobody actually invited me. I had to pester to find out
> where it was.
>
> Jp

You were a last minute decision to come if I recall. When the
invitations were going out, no one knew you could make it.

Johnny-convenient-memory

Ron Peacock

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"The Traveller" <nos...@nomore.no> wrote in message
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Cross posting I have already explained why - sorry

Where is Salterbeck? is it a small beautiful Lakeland village?


Ron Peacock

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Mar 2, 2006, 1:34:25 PM3/2/06
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Wonderful place the "The Devils Beef Tub"

Ron Peacock

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Mar 2, 2006, 1:35:12 PM3/2/06
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ed.general I love Edinburgh also subscribe to uk.local.lothians,
uk.local.borders-region the latter two not much going on though.


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