It's going to be a great website - lovely people - top quality product -
spectacular scenery. I'll bore you all with a link to it when it's done.
Thoroughly on-topic, though - you can't get much more Cumbrian than this
place.
ally
Absolut fab, Ally. I'm impressed. Edinburgh - guess 1963.
Edith.
Lovely views, Ally. Very 'Cumbria'. I look forward to seeing the finished
website.
Rex.
ally
More! More!
Johnny-loves-a-nice-photo
Edith Disbelief.
Thank you! Once we've decided which ones to use for the website, I'll put
some more of the others on this page for you to see. What a photogenic spot!
Took me twice as long as it should have to get there - I kept stopping in
laybys and sticking my camera out of the window for quick pix of this and
that. Amazing. And a good time of year to visit - only a few tourists
visible. I'd guess it gets really busy in the summer.
ally
I went as far south as Ennerdale last April. I believe Kez said
that was his favourite area, I was there on a sunny day and it
was beautiful, as it was throughout the western fells.
Johnny-fond-memories
In Cumbria,there's a motive each time you turn, Ally.
Edith.
>
> I went as far south as Ennerdale last April. I believe Kez said
> that was his favourite area, I was there on a sunny day and it
> was beautiful, as it was throughout the western fells.
>
Ennerdale - now there's another valley I want to explore. I keep racing past
on my way to Ravenglass or something. Belfagan dance at Ennerdale Bridge
most years, but I've never got right down the lakeside. Must make a point of
it this year.
ally
Jp
I can push it back a bit further. I had a green minivan in 1968. I remember
collecting my first daughter from the maternity hospital. I went with a
clothes basket in the back of the van for her to sleep in on the way home.
Rex
ally
(Nowadays you'd get pulled over for not having her in a kite marked
safety seat.)
Jp
Then why didn't they simply use the term in the eighties when
the 'minivan' as we now know it hit the streets? Why invent the
term 'people carrier'? That's what I find strange about the
Brits. Always inventing new terms for things that already exist.
I know, you'll say it's because a British minivan was something
else. But come on. They could just move with the times.
In the US/NA there were vans before the minivan. I owned one. It
was technically a truck and built for commercial use. Mine was
an old telephone company vehicle. Then Chrysler started building
a family-oriented version on a car chasis and called it the
minivan.
Interestingly, GM, behind the times as usual, couldn't design
their own fast enough so they kept the truck underneath and put
a slightly more modern family-oriented upper on it and called it
the 'astrovan'. Got horrible gas milage due to it's weight and
was a piece of crap, had a horrible safety record but was dirt
cheap. Don't ever get hit by one of those. They are solid iron.
Johnny-rehashing-old-argument
Necessity being the mother of invention?
Johnny-curious
> More! More!
>
> Johnny-loves-a-nice-photo
Some more Wasdale photos from last Friday.
http://www.stridingedge.net/Walks/2006/02.%20February/17.02.06.htm
Ennerdale:
http://www.stridingedge.net/Walks/2005/05.%20May/09.05.05.htm
ally-maybe-needs-to-get-out-more
These are gorgous photos. And how nice to know the names of the mountains...
Maybe you can tell me the name of the one on my site that I've labelled
just, "one of the fells overlooking Wast Water"? Yeah, I know, I should look
it up on a map, but the map's downstairs and I'm upstairs and feeling
lazy...
ally
That is Middle Fell. You had a great day for photos there.
Looks like you've put a lot more work into yours than our old neighbours put
into theirs! It was a purely utilitarian vehicle, with the sides built up
from some sort of chipboard iirc and covered with a slap of army-coloured
paint - they drove it into the ground in the end. Obviously makes a
difference if you actually love your car.
ally
Because it didn't look like a minivan, which looks like this, found on
Google. It was a tiny little thing.
http://www.bobleroi.co.uk/ScrapBook/CarsMotoring/Van.jpg
The Police had their own version, white, with a blue light on top and
the Royal Mail ones were bright red.
Why invent the
> term 'people carrier'? That's what I find strange about the
> Brits. Always inventing new terms for things that already exist.
> I know, you'll say it's because a British minivan was something
> else. But come on. They could just move with the times.
>
> In the US/NA there were vans before the minivan. I owned one. It
> was technically a truck and built for commercial use. Mine was
> an old telephone company vehicle. Then Chrysler started building
> a family-oriented version on a car chasis and called it the
> minivan.
So now we know why it was called a minivan there. It's more like a
minibus, though. I'd like more headroom and legroom - especially for our
trip up to Canada in 2 weeks, but I couldn't justify a seven seater at
the developmental stage of my family, and although great for soccer moms
pooling rides, they're not exactly to-die-for.
Here's the perfect car for the expatriate Brit Chic in Long Island:
http://www.seriouswheels.com/pics-jkl/Jaguar-XK8-Convertible-Austin-Powers-1024x768.jpg
>
> Interestingly, GM, behind the times as usual, couldn't design
> their own fast enough so they kept the truck underneath and put
> a slightly more modern family-oriented upper on it and called it
> the 'astrovan'. Got horrible gas milage due to it's weight and
> was a piece of crap, had a horrible safety record but was dirt
> cheap. Don't ever get hit by one of those. They are solid iron.
>
Thankyou for your advice.
Jp
Jp
Terrific. Thanks.
Johnny-jealous
According to JP, a long time ago in Britain there was a Mini
(brand name) van. Whereas over here, Chrysler invented the
'minivan' which appeared several years later in Britain under
the name 'people carrier'.
Use the term 'people carrier' over here and they won't know what
you are on about. They might take a wild guess that you mean one
of those moving sidewalks at airports.
Johnny-explanatory
Try Googling "Minivan" and see what you get. There's a place called
Minivan in the Maldives!
Jp
ally
Good lord, you're right. I've just gone through several pages of Google
Images, all full of things called 'minivan' and not one of them looks even
slightly like a minivan. There's everything from a minibus through various
people carriers and MPVs to things that just look like glorified estate
cars. None of them looks like a van, nor are any of them particularly small,
so where does the 'mini' bit come from?
In fact, my Citroën Berlingo would almost pass as a minivan if I were to
drive it in the States. (Mine looks very like this one, except it's a bit
muddier and the wheel trims are different -
http://makeashorterlink.com/?Y230252BC )
ally
Yes, that's a minivan. I can't imagine anything else being called a minivan.
It's a van, and it's small, and what's more, it's based on a mini (car). So
it's a minivan. QEF.
>
> Here's the perfect car for the expatriate Brit Chic in Long Island:
>
> http://www.seriouswheels.com/pics-jkl/Jaguar-XK8-Convertible-Austin-Powers-1024x768.jpg
Oh dear. That's really tacky, isn't it? Though, from an expat leftpondian
point of view, it's probably pretty swanky. When we move to foreign parts,
most people do become a bit more patriotic than they were back home.
ally
Jp
Jp
Not a very imaginative name, is it? I like these mountains called things
like Steeple, Pillar and so on. D'you think they'd run out of ideas when
they found that one? ;-)
ally
Jp
ally
It was bound to happen.
> I've just gone through several
> pages of Google Images, all full of things called 'minivan'
> and not one of them looks even slightly like a minivan.
> There's everything from a minibus through various people
> carriers and MPVs to things that just look like glorified
> estate cars. None of them looks like a van, nor are any of
> them particularly small, so where does the 'mini' bit come
> from?
>
> In fact, my Citroën Berlingo would almost pass as a minivan
> if I were to drive it in the States. (Mine looks very like
> this one, except it's a bit muddier and the wheel trims are
> different - http://makeashorterlink.com/?Y230252BC )
>
> ally
Yours looks a little more commercial, what with no seats in the
back. Minivans are for soccer moms. Hauling kids and groceries
is what they are for. And the occasional trip to Disneyworld.
They are slightly smaller, more aerodynamic and definitely
lighter and therefore better on gas than their predecessors
'vans'.
Johnny-ex-Nissan-Quest-minivan-owner
Can't find any photos of it with the seats actually occupied by people, but
there's room for 3 in the back, complete with seat belts.
ally
:0) Where did her mother sit, Rex? On the roof?
Edith in Wonderland.
Well, I was driving down, the 59 Highway
Saw a mini van and it was going my way
It looked a bit suspicious, it didn't look any too clean, oh no.
Well, I jammed on my breaks and I opened the door
I could see he was a bum by the muddy boots he wore
He said I'm going down up to Carlisle, gor a woman out in Aberdeen
Edith Mix
Then there's the bread box on wheels. Oh! Did I start another thread.
Edith in Reverse.
And you admit to THAT. Don't come to any more boinks.
Edith-ThinksBIG.
Angus.......Aaaaaangu u u rrrrs.....................are you there my
darling.
Yours forever, Edith.
Edith Beach-buggy.
Rex. PS Nicola grew to be a healthy young lady and now has two children of
her own.
The whole history was just lovely. My daughter slept in a clothes basket on
the floor in my mother's cabin, 7 months old, on The M/S Bræmar - or was it
Blenheim, in 1961 when we sailed out from Newcastle docks, emigrating to
Norway.
I love clothes baskets but I wish I hadn't stepped aboard
Edith.
It's more of a mini-minivan as most minivans have seven seats
total. A few claim eight.
You need to clean up your licesne plate! Driving around with an
obscured plate is a serious offence here.
Johnny-just-kidding-about-the-plate-of-course
You know I only go to the ones you are not at.
Johnny-only-goes-to-the-good-boinks
Edith Tittering.
Yeah. That's the kind of stinker you are.
:o))))) Got one in there.
Edith.
> Edith.
I'm going to sit right up next to you if we ever meet at a
boink. We'll soon find out whose eyes start running first.
Johnny-will-go-on-a gruelling-fellwalk-that-day
Edith will wear a string of garlic onions around her neck.
Edith.
So you're not going to do anything special then?
Johnny-zinger
he's only an unbathed Canuck not a vampire.
Al
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For you. Anything. Be prepared.
Edith.
Uh-Oh!
Johnny-Uh-Oh
Chuckling.
Edith-Chuckling.
> You need to clean up your licesne plate! Driving around with an
> obscured plate is a serious offence here.
>
> Johnny-just-kidding-about-the-plate-of-course
Just as well it was parked on my own land at the time then, eh?
ally
We miss our minivan's hauling capability, what with the
continuing home renovations. My wife's new car is better than a
sedan but nowhere near the capacity of a minivan. It's
supposedly a five seater but with suitcases and skis, it's
really only good for three comfortably. But it's better than
twice as efficient on gas.
http://www.toyota.ca/cgi-
bin/WebObjects/WWW.woa/6/wo/Home.Vehicles.Go.Matrix-
stknGEytCmHGOzf56n2tI0/7.15?index%2ehtml
Good luck stitching all that back together.
Johnny-too-lazy-to-make-a-shorter-link
It's a nice looking car. I see lots of them on the road around here.
Jp
ally
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Huh? You're proud to be far away from Cumbria? How odd. How far are you
then?
ally
I am from Cumbria and proud of it, born and bread there. A true Cumbrian.
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Delighted to meet you sir. But you don't live here now?
ally-doing-Edith's-job-&-being-nosey
evening Ally you're early tonight.
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ally
ally
I bet he is in Scotland.
Edith.
Here's a question for ye. "Do you save Matchbox cars?"
Edith.
Huh! He's not coming to my boink. He's from CARLISLE.
Unless.............unless he asks nicely.
Edith.
ps: I save teddybears, teapots and Latin Americans.
What exactly do you save them from, may I ask?
Reminds me of this cartoon with one of those loud-mouthed preachers standing
on a soapbox, shouting, "Have you been saved?" while a crowd of assorted
foreign stamps standing in the crowd give each other puzzled looks.
ally
You lost your bet. Unless the Scots have managed to reclaim Carlisle while
I've been asleep.
ally
Edith
Edith
ps. I know who he is and he is in Australia.
ally
A bus station is where a bus stops.
A train station is where a train stops.
On my desk, I have a work station....
what more can I say........
Edith, snowed in.
WHAT IS A BOINK?
Please can I come to yours?
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OK lets pretend that I'm in Scotland lets say between Dumfries and Edinburgh
why not Moffat yes lets pretend that I live in "The Devils Beef Tub"
Do you realise you are cross posting?
Just curious. If you have a good reason for it, fine, but if
you're just being careless, well that's frowned on around here.
Johnny-trimmed-out-the-cross-posts
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I used to live in Moffat
Good question. Edith? Answer the nice man!
>
> WHAT IS A BOINK?
boink: /boynk/
2. n. After the original Peter Korn 'Boinkon' Usenet parties, used for
almost any net social gathering, e.g., Miniboink, a small boink held by
Nancy Gillett in 1988; Minniboink, a Boinkcon in Minnesota in 1989;
Humpdayboinks, Wednesday get-togethers held in the San Francisco Bay Area.
Compare @-party.
Uklc boinks tend to be held when one or more of our expat members comes to
the fair shores of Cumbria: everybody descends on some pub or other, eats
food, drinks many pints of Jennings, and, if it's a good night, live music
will be played as well, as many of us are musicians.
>
> Please can I come to yours?
>
If you're good....
ally
It's the old glass half-empty/half-full thing again, really.
ally
ally
ally
I tried to be nice about it. It took all the self control I
could muster. But I think it was worth the effort. Seems like a
nice guy.
Johnny-muster
I think you should point out that attendance is by invitation
only. So one needs to merit an invitation.
Or does that just apply to me?
Johnny-more-on-boinks
I bet you are from Salterbeck and married to a Scottish lass, or the other
way round. Are you, and why are you cross posting? Notice, I'm trying not
to.
Edith.
Please try to keep up, Edith. We already addressed the cross-
posting issue.
I married your distant cousin in Scotland and neither she nor I
was from Salterbeck.
Just thought I'd mention that again.
It's been a little boring around here recently, have you
noticed?
Thank goodness for Tony R and the Lakelandcam. Great photos from
the Tebay area, just up the road from Firbank where my people
once lived.
Not to mention Mad About Mountains which has some lovely photos
today (as always) from up above Derwentwater where I like to go
walking. My favourite is the Seathwaite Valley and surrounding
fells from High Seat summit.
Johnny-bored
Quite. The details of the time and venue are distributed by email, not on
the ng.
>
> Or does that just apply to me?
Certainly not. With the boinks I've organised, at least, I'll advertise the
fact there's one coming up, and ask people who are interested to email me.
Only then do they get the details. So far nobody "unsuitable" has ever asked
to come - not sure what I'd do if that happened, or how I'd decide about
their unsuitability anyway. It's hardly up to me, really. So long as they've
been around uklc for a while, and we've all got a pretty good idea of what
they're about, then it's usually fine. They may well be axe-murderers in
their spare time, but so long as the regulars here have accepted them, and
they leave their axe at home, it should be ok. Safety in numbers and all
that...
So, there ya go, Ron. If you want to come to the next boink. you'll need to
convince us!
ally
Oh! Nobody actually invited me. I had to pester to find out where it was.
Jp
You were a last minute decision to come if I recall. When the
invitations were going out, no one knew you could make it.
Johnny-convenient-memory
Cross posting I have already explained why - sorry
Where is Salterbeck? is it a small beautiful Lakeland village?
ed.general I love Edinburgh also subscribe to uk.local.lothians,
uk.local.borders-region the latter two not much going on though.