Car being egged by local youths

[J B]

Hello,

I have been having problems with local youths egging my car.
Unfortunately I sometimes cycle to work and leave the car parked near
my house all day. I do not have a garage. The youths don't work or go
to college and I am pretty much at their mercy.

Fortunately my car doesn't seem to have been damaged beyond having
eggs thrown at it, but I am concerned when the youths get bored they
may escalate into keying, breaking glass or slashing tyres. Is this
damage classified as criminal damage?

What can I do about it?

How can I get egg off car upholstery and out of the air vents near the
windscreen wipers? My car absolutely stinks of raw egg when I get in
and turn on the air conditioning. I've tried a wet sponge with warm
water + dishwashing liquid but I can't get into the air intake vents.
And there is no guarantee after I clean it out they won't egg it
again.

Thanks.

[Nigel Oldfield]

http://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/1.260424

WM

[Jake]

"J B" <nomdepl...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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Someone in my street's house and car was egged tonight. After a lot of loud
shouting and insults, she stormed into the house, then back out with her
husband and a carrier bag. The yoofs ran off. With her husband driving, they
proceeded to chase the culprits whilst she was standing out of the sunroof,
returning fire.

It was very entertaining, especially for the rest of the street who weren't
involved, but came out to see what the commotion was about.

[Rupert Bear]

Ive had my car egged..

on gala day ..

perhaps thame cops should be patten them all down abit harder..

Don't leave your windows open..

.................

[MM]

The ruddy irresponsible Halloween revellers are partly to blame. Last
night we had gangs of youths roaming the streets looking for kicks.
'Course, no police in sight.

MM

[J B]

J B wrote:

> Fortunately my car doesn't seem to have been damaged beyond having
> eggs thrown at it, but I am concerned when the youths get bored they
> may escalate into keying, breaking glass or slashing tyres. Is this
> damage classified as criminal damage?

Is egging criminal damage, I mean. Obviously keying, breaking glass or
slashing tyres is.

[J B]

I'm a visiting academic. Going around throwing eggs back is not
something I can do.

[Mentalguy2k8]

"MM" <kyli...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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Is "roaming the streets looking for kicks" illegal?

[Mentalguy2k8]

"J B" <nomdepl...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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> Hello,
>
> I have been having problems with local youths egging my car.
> Unfortunately I sometimes cycle to work and leave the car parked near
> my house all day. I do not have a garage. The youths don't work or go
> to college and I am pretty much at their mercy.
>
> Fortunately my car doesn't seem to have been damaged beyond having
> eggs thrown at it, but I am concerned when the youths get bored they
> may escalate into keying, breaking glass or slashing tyres. Is this
> damage classified as criminal damage?
>
> What can I do about it?

Not a lot, they know that even if they're convicted they'll get off, and
will probably escalate their behaviour against you. The only thing most of
these inbreds understand is some "extra judicial" treatment, which is
something you have to be absolutely committed to and follow through to the
end. I couldn't possibly condone it.

It's a reflection on 2011 that most people would consider you "lucky" that
they are "only" throwing eggs.

>
> How can I get egg off car upholstery and out of the air vents near the
> windscreen wipers? My car absolutely stinks of raw egg when I get in
> and turn on the air conditioning. I've tried a wet sponge with warm
> water + dishwashing liquid but I can't get into the air intake vents.
> And there is no guarantee after I clean it out they won't egg it
> again.

For upholstery, I've always had good results with the foam-type sprays that
you get from places like Halfords, or wet-wipes - always keep a (fresh)
packet of those in the car, kitchen etc they are fantastic. As for the air
vents, I would spray some Febreze (sp?) down them all, and all over the
seats, then put your fan on full speed with the recirculate on for a while.
It won't clear the egg from inside, but it'll make it smell nicer until the
egg is gone. You won't get the egg out of the system yourself without taking
it all apart.

[Mel Rowing]

On Nov 1, 6:48 am, MM <kylix...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On Mon, 31 Oct 2011 19:53:06 -0700 (PDT), Rupert Bear

> The ruddy irresponsible Halloween revellers are partly to blame. Last
> night we had gangs of youths roaming the streets looking for kicks.
> 'Course, no police in sight.

Course there isn't! You wouldn't pay the precept and so they all had
to be paid off.

[Mentalguy2k8]

"Mel Rowing" <mel.r...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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MM would be the first to whine if the Police diverted Officers from
"seerious crymes" to patrol the streets arresting toddlers for having fun.
Or anyone having fun, for that matter. They don't have fun in Germany you
know!

[MM]

Terrorising the neighbourhood? I'd say yes. Maybe you don't understand
what unreasonable behaviour means, though. Last night across Britain
there were thousands of old people living in fear in their darkened
houses, pretending not to be in. Reckon that's okay, do you? Dozens of
cars will have been keyed or had their tyres slashed, windows smashed,
eggs thrown etc. Reckon that's okay, do you?

MM

[MM]

In Germay people don't need to get blind drunk or use the excuse of
Hallow friggin' een to have fun.

MM

[MM]

I didn't agree to paying a SEVENTY-EIGHT PER CENT increase in the
precept! And neither did the government, which capped the cops, who
slunk away with their tail between their legs, having had their wrists
slapped. The elected commissioner can't come soon enough for me.

MM

[The Todal]

"J B" <nomdepl...@googlemail.com> wrote in message

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Yes, it is certainly criminal damage and yes, you should tell the police
especially if you are able to help identify the perpetrators.

[MM]

All very useful advice AFTER the event. But what are your
recommendations for pre-empting such rowdyism -- other than the
extra judicial treatment that you cannot condone?

MM

[The Todal]

"MM" <kyli...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message

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But did that really happen?

In my area there were lots of kids, aged 6 to 10, in Halloween costumes and
accompanied by an anxious adult, wandering up and down the streets and
knocking on doors. I remarked to my wife that we had no sweets to give them
and wondered what we were supposed to do - she was all set to hand out money
to them. Fortunately they didn't choose our house.

Perhaps the thing to have is a camera handy, so that you are ready to take
photos of whoever calls at your door.

[MM]

On Tue, 1 Nov 2011 09:49:08 -0000, "The Todal" <deadm...@beeb.net>

Oh sure. And then the police will descend en masse to arrest me for
taking photos against their yuman rites, which is verboten as you must
know by now. Ask any photographer in a public place, if you're not
sure.

MM

[Rob]

I suspect the PP was being a touch mischievous.

--
Rob

[Rupert Bear]

On Nov 1, 9:49 am, "The Todal" <deadmail...@beeb.net> wrote:
> "MM" <kylix...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message

>
> news:bmeva7t5kn18htdqj...@4ax.com...
>
>
>
> > On Tue, 1 Nov 2011 08:23:35 -0000, "Mentalguy2k8"

> > <Mentalguy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>"MM" <kylix...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message

I remember toffee apples,,
ducking for apples,,
home made toffee and fudge,,
tumpchies from the field and
made into lanterns,,

Oh another a good un,,,
treacle pieces dangling on a string...
My dad took loads of photos..

Eggs was for Easter...


..........................................

[The Todal]

"Rob" <rsvptorob-...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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Not at all. If someone is on your property and calls at your house, you are
fully entitled to photograph them. And if they then take their revenge by
vandalising your house or your car, you will have good evidence to produce
to the police.

If anyone were to complain that you had no right to photograph them, they
can complain to the police and I can't see why the police should want to
take an interest in non-indecent photographs of a child covered with a
sheet.

[Mel Rowing]

On Nov 1, 9:29 am, MM <kylix...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On Tue, 1 Nov 2011 01:36:10 -0700 (PDT), Mel Rowing
>

But you'll pay £150000 p.a. for him (+ more for his entourage) who
will not make a single pinch. There's three extra "cops" in him alone.

And they give people like you votes!

[MM]

Sometimes you spend money to save money.

>And they give people like you votes!

At least we oldies use them!

MM

[Mentalguy2k8]

"MM" <kyli...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message

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Not at all, but you have to make your mind up whether you're happy for the
Police to intervene where there is "unreasonable behaviour" or whether you
think they've "got better things to do".

You started off talking about kids roaming the streets, went on to
"unreasonable behaviour" and finished with examples of illegal activity. If
you could decide which of the three you are actually talking about, you
might be more pleased with the responses.

[Mentalguy2k8]

"MM" <kyli...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message

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Actually they do both, but don't let that get in the way.

[Mentalguy2k8]

"MM" <kyli...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message

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Everything sensible that is ever suggested to prevent anti-social behaviour
is ignored, so give them a bloody good hiding, it's all they understand. It
may not pre-empt a specific incident but it certainly ensures that it
doesn't re-occur.

And keep your car windows shut.

[Mentalguy2k8]

"MM" <kyli...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message

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Only so you can piss and moan about whoever wins.

[J B]

I filed a police report with Cambridgeshire Constabulary. Incident
number CC-01112011-0xxx.

The lady I spoke to said:
1) The police are not going to take further action
2) I should report any further incidents to them
3) The incident is being classed as an antisocial incident and not
criminal damage

I asked the operator if she was sure that a car being egged isn't
criminal damage. She said that even if criminal damage had occurred,
without CCTV, fingerprints or witnesses there are no further lines of
inquiry and there was nothing they could do.

What was shocking was that they said the smell of eggs isn't offensive
and that there was no certainty that the car would smell of rotten
eggs in a few days, so on this count no criminal damage was done
either. I happen to find the smell of eggs extremely offensive and
retch even at the smell of hard boiled ones.

[The Todal]

"J B" <nomdepl...@googlemail.com> wrote in message

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It's definitely criminal damage even if the stupid operator (who probably
has no relevant qualifications) disagrees. What she probably meant was that
it was too trivial to be worth spending valuable police time on.

If I were you I'd complain to the police station, then to the relevant
complaints body.

Some case law:

Roe v Kingerlee
D smeared mud graffiti on a police cell wall. Cleaning the wall cost GBP 7.
Held, that what constituted criminal damage was a matter of fact and degree
for the justices to decide. They had erred, however, in finding that what D
had done could not amount, as a matter of law, to criminal damage. The
damage need not be permanent to be criminal damage
Court: (DC) Divisional Court
Judgment date: June 27, 1986

Hardman v Chief Constable of Avon and Somerset
The appellants painted silhouettes on a pavement as part of a protest, using
soluble paint which would be washed away eventually by rainwater. The local
authority washed the markings away with high pressure jets.
Held, dismissing their appeals against convictions of causing damage to the
pavement, that there had been "damage" within the meaning of the Criminal
Damage Act 1971 s.1
Court: (Crown Ct (Bristol)) Crown Court (Bristol)
Judgment date: February 26, 1986

[J B]

Here's my letter, addressed to the Chief Constable. Please let me know
if it could be phrased better.

Chief Constable
Cambridgeshire Constabulary
Headquarters
Hinchingbrooke Park
Huntingdon
Cambridgeshire
PE29 6NP

Dear Sir/Madam,

Re: Criminally damaged car. Police ref. no. CC-01112011-0xxx

I am writing regarding incidents where my car has been egged twice, on
Thursday 27/10/11 and Monday 31/10/11 during the late afternoon, and
the subsequent police handling of the matter.

In the first incident, my car was egged on the front driver’s window
and side mirror. Some egg entered the car and ran down the side door,
damaging the upholstery. On the second incident, the egg was aimed
directly on the windscreen in front of the driver, and egg infiltrated
through the air vent near the windscreen wipers. Now my car smells
very strongly of raw egg.

I filed a police report today of the incident and was told by the
operator that the incident is classed as an antisocial act and not
criminal damage. The operator even confirmed this with her supervisor
and rang me back to re-state the police’s position on the matter.

I refer you to the following case law which show otherwise:

Roe v Kingerlee
D smeared mud graffiti on a police cell wall. Cleaning the wall cost
GBP 7. Held, that what constituted criminal damage was a matter of
fact and degree for the justices to decide. They had erred, however,
in finding that what D had done could not amount, as a matter of law,
to criminal damage. The damage need not be permanent to be criminal

damage.

Court: (DC) Divisional Court
Judgment date: June 27, 1986
Hardman v Chief Constable of Avon and Somerset
The appellants painted silhouettes on a pavement as part of a protest,
using soluble paint which would be washed away eventually by
rainwater. The local authority washed the markings away with high
pressure jets.
Held, dismissing their appeals against convictions of causing damage
to the pavement, that there had been "damage" within the meaning of
the Criminal Damage Act 1971 s.1
Court: (Crown Ct (Bristol)) Crown Court (Bristol)
Judgment date: February 26, 1986

Please reconsider the police’s position on this and I hope that you
would investigate this matter as one of criminal damage and not
antisocial behaviour. Furthermore, I am very concerned that the matter
may escalate into keying, window smashing, rock throwing or tyre
deflating/slashing.

Yours sincerely,
Joe Bloggs

[MM]

On Tue, 1 Nov 2011 13:09:44 -0000, "Mentalguy2k8"

I spoke about all three because I mean all three.

MM

[MM]

Maybe you're still fondly remembering ex-BAOR towns...

MM

[MM]

As we have every right to if we give them our vote!

MM

[MM]

We're not just talking about cars!

MM

[Maria]

On 01/11/2011 00:43, J B wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have been having problems with local youths egging my car.
> Unfortunately I sometimes cycle to work and leave the car parked near
> my house all day. I do not have a garage. The youths don't work or go
> to college and I am pretty much at their mercy.
>
> Fortunately my car doesn't seem to have been damaged beyond having
> eggs thrown at it, but I am concerned when the youths get bored they
> may escalate into keying, breaking glass or slashing tyres. Is this
> damage classified as criminal damage?
>
> What can I do about it?

Report it to the police? It is a crime.

> How can I get egg off car upholstery and out of the air vents near the
> windscreen wipers? My car absolutely stinks of raw egg when I get in
> and turn on the air conditioning. I've tried a wet sponge with warm
> water + dishwashing liquid but I can't get into the air intake vents.
> And there is no guarantee after I clean it out they won't egg it
> again.
>

> Thanks.

My MPV is ruined by egging - you are supposed to wash it off with white
vinegar I think, but you have to do it quick and I left mine not realising.

[Maria]

On 01/11/2011 06:48, MM wrote:
> On Mon, 31 Oct 2011 19:53:06 -0700 (PDT), Rupert Bear

> <nutherpe...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>
>> On Nov 1, 12:43 am, J B<nomdeplume82...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I have been having problems with local youths egging my car.
>>> Unfortunately I sometimes cycle to work and leave the car parked near
>>> my house all day. I do not have a garage. The youths don't work or go
>>> to college and I am pretty much at their mercy.
>>>
>>> Fortunately my car doesn't seem to have been damaged beyond having
>>> eggs thrown at it, but I am concerned when the youths get bored they
>>> may escalate into keying, breaking glass or slashing tyres. Is this
>>> damage classified as criminal damage?
>>>
>>> What can I do about it?
>>>

>>> How can I get egg off car upholstery and out of the air vents near the
>>> windscreen wipers? My car absolutely stinks of raw egg when I get in
>>> and turn on the air conditioning. I've tried a wet sponge with warm
>>> water + dishwashing liquid but I can't get into the air intake vents.
>>> And there is no guarantee after I clean it out they won't egg it
>>> again.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>

>> Ive had my car egged..
>>
>> on gala day ..
>>
>> perhaps thame cops should be patten them all down abit harder..
>>
>> Don't leave your windows open..
>

> The ruddy irresponsible Halloween revellers are partly to blame. Last
> night we had gangs of youths roaming the streets looking for kicks.
> 'Course, no police in sight.
>

You live in an inbred idiot area. Since I moved out of one, we only get
egging, shed burglary and the odd stabbing.

[The Todal]

Just a couple of points about this.

Firstly, I wouldn't say that your car has been "egged" as this sounds like a
minor prank. Instead, say "vandals smashed some eggs on my car" and if you
can, describe when it was done and by whom. If you can give them any
pointers at all as to whom they ought to consider interviewing (local thugs
etc) give addresses and reasons for suspecting them.

Second, if you are concerned about the matter escalating, give your reasons.
Do you have reasons for believing that you were personally and deliberately
targeted? Could it have been a totally random attack?

[Nigel Oldfield]

> What was shocking was that they said the smell of eggs isn't offensive
> and that there was no certainty that the car would smell of rotten
> eggs in a few days, so on this count no criminal damage was done
> either. I happen to find the smell of eggs extremely offensive and
> retch even at the smell of hard boiled ones.

Plod is never your friend ... you must force them to act, at times.

WM

[Nigel Oldfield]

> Just a couple of points about this.
>
> Firstly, I wouldn't say that your car has been "egged" as this sounds like a
> minor prank. Instead, say "vandals smashed some eggs on my car" and if you
> can, describe when it was done and by whom. If you can give them any
> pointers at all as to whom they ought to consider interviewing (local thugs
> etc) give addresses and reasons for suspecting them.
>
> Second, if you are concerned about the matter escalating, give your reasons.
> Do you have reasons for believing that you were personally and deliberately
> targeted? Could it have been a totally random attack?
>
>

... and sometimes, you feel so harassed, you almost feel like getting in
your car and setting yourself on fire ... that will prick their ears up.

Plod is never your friend.

WM

[®i©ardo]

Ah, that makes it easier to live with, does it.

--
Moving things in still pictures

[J B]

The Todal wrote:

> Just a couple of points about this.
>
> Firstly, I wouldn't say that your car has been "egged" as this sounds like a
> minor prank. Instead, say "vandals smashed some eggs on my car" and if you
> can, describe when it was done and by whom. If you can give them any
> pointers at all as to whom they ought to consider interviewing (local thugs
> etc) give addresses and reasons for suspecting them.

OK, I amended the bits where I said "egged" to what you suggested.

I've also added this paragraph:

"Two possible leads I can offer are a copy of a note left by a
neighbour telling me to re-park my car although it is in a communal
parking space (of which I attach a copy of) and an encounter with a
neighbour driving a dark green Vauxhall Cavalier registration W461 ***
who complained about me parking near (but not blocking) his house's
communal parking bays exit while I was offloading belongings on my
move-in date."

> Second, if you are concerned about the matter escalating, give your reasons.
> Do you have reasons for believing that you were personally and deliberately
> targeted? Could it have been a totally random attack?

"Furthermore, I am very concerned that the matter may escalate into

keying, window smashing, rock throwing or tyre deflating/slashing. Two
instances of criminal damage have already occurred in less than a
week."

[AlanG]

The poison dwarfs of Minden?
http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=2194&dat=19620614&id=Rjc0AAAAIBAJ&sjid=Q_UIAAAAIBAJ&pg=6957,3634507

[The Todal]

"®i©ardo" <he...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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No, but if you want the police to investigate and to interview suspects you
have to give them some encouragement. Being targeted for regular persecution
is a good reason to expect some police action.

[Ian]

"Jake" <Ja...@jakesplaice.com> wrote in message
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>
> "J B" <nomdepl...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
> news:fbb4afa7-ec83-4c88...@hj4g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...

>> Hello,
>>
>> I have been having problems with local youths egging my car.

Can't really help you with the egging, but this might cheer you up.
We had a problem with youths in Millbrook opening the doors (from the
outside) on bendybuses when they slowed for corners. (An open rear door on a
these bendybuses immediately applies all the brakes.)

They stopped after drivers started applying a liberal coating of dogshit to
the emergency pushes.

[MM]

On Tue, 01 Nov 2011 16:38:43 +0000, AlanG <inv...@invalid.co.uk>
wrote:

Interesting. I see it refers to "A brawl at the cafe April 8 led to
the court martial of 19 Cameronians last month."

Bullingdon Club paying a guest visit? Was Boris there?

MM

[MM]

On Tue, 01 Nov 2011 15:28:10 +0000, Maria <wilful...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Apparently modern car paint is rubbish compared to the old-fashioned
stinky kind with thinners (glue sniffers' wet dream). I'm loathe to
wash the Alto in case the red colour comes off and I'm left with
undercoat.

MM

[The Grey Man]

On Tue, 1 Nov 2011 09:29:52 -0000, "The Todal" <deadm...@beeb.net>
wrote:

>
>Yes, it is certainly criminal damage and yes, you should tell the police
>especially if you are able to help identify the perpetrators.
>

Alas no.

Last year our house was "egged", the CCTV system got a particularly
good image of the punk who'd thrown the missile at my property.

A call to Plod resulted in a deep sigh and a "it IS Halloween Sir".

Remember - the kids running amok in our streets with impunity today
will be tomorrow's rioters.

[AlanG]

You didn't check the year. :)

[Maria]

You could touch it in with red polish - mine looks horrible 6 months
later, believe me. Is the damage extensive? It might be worth claiming
on your insurance to get it sorted professionally.

[Steve Firth]

J B <nomdepl...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> I'm a visiting academic. Going around throwing eggs back is not
> something I can do.

Could you engage the services of a technician to do it on your behalf?

[Zapp Brannigan]

"MM" <kyli...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message

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No, you spoke about all three because you hoped to conflate the first
group's behaviour with that of the anti-social behaviour of the others.
It's a cheap debating tactic, and Mentalguy2k8 has rightly called you on it.

[Zapp Brannigan]

"AlanG" <inv...@invalid.co.uk> wrote in message
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> You didn't check the year. :)

"beastly incidents" lol...

[Zapp Brannigan]

"J B" <nomdepl...@googlemail.com> wrote in message

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> I filed a police report with Cambridgeshire Constabulary. Incident
> number CC-01112011-0xxx.
>
> The lady I spoke to said:
> 1) The police are not going to take further action
> 2) I should report any further incidents to them
> 3) The incident is being classed as an antisocial incident and not
> criminal damage

Lazy, statistic-fiddling attitude. Not unusual.

Complain, demand a crime number even if they're going to write it off as
unsolvable.

[MM]

On Tue, 1 Nov 2011 21:51:18 -0000, "Zapp Brannigan" <ZBr...@DOOP.com>
wrote:

Are you trying to tell me that last Halloween night no car in Britain
had its paintwork scratched, or its tyres slashed, and no eggs were
thrown as a result of gangs of youths roaming the streets looking for
kicks? Our neighbourhood has had a veritable tsunami of slashed car
tyres over the past few months, and ours is a small community. One lot
happened during a funeral. Extend our anti-social behaviour problem to
the whole country and the tyre companies and glaziers are going to be
rubbing their hands with glee.

MM

[Steve O]

On 01/11/2011 08:23, J B wrote:

>
>
> J B wrote:
>
>> Fortunately my car doesn't seem to have been damaged beyond having
>> eggs thrown at it, but I am concerned when the youths get bored they
>> may escalate into keying, breaking glass or slashing tyres. Is this
>> damage classified as criminal damage?
>

> Is egging criminal damage, I mean. Obviously keying, breaking glass or
> slashing tyres is.

Yes it is, especially in this case where the egg got into the air vents
and needed cleaning.
The cost of the damage would amount to the cleaning costs involved.

>> What can I do about it?

You could insist that the police record this matter as a criminal
damage( by pointing out that it is recordable under the National Crime
Recording Standards ) but unless the culprits were identified at the
time there wouldn't be much point.

--
Steve O

[Steve O]

On 01/11/2011 14:33, J B wrote:

>
>
> The Todal wrote:
>> "J B"<nomdepl...@googlemail.com> wrote in message

>> news:82bc3637-1957-48c0...@n18g2000vbv.googlegroups.com...

>>>
>>>
>>> J B wrote:
>>>
>>>> Fortunately my car doesn't seem to have been damaged beyond having
>>>> eggs thrown at it, but I am concerned when the youths get bored they
>>>> may escalate into keying, breaking glass or slashing tyres. Is this
>>>> damage classified as criminal damage?
>>>
>>> Is egging criminal damage, I mean. Obviously keying, breaking glass or
>>> slashing tyres is.
>>

>> Yes, it is certainly criminal damage and yes, you should tell the police
>> especially if you are able to help identify the perpetrators.
>

> I filed a police report with Cambridgeshire Constabulary. Incident
> number CC-01112011-0xxx.
>
> The lady I spoke to said:
> 1) The police are not going to take further action
> 2) I should report any further incidents to them
> 3) The incident is being classed as an antisocial incident and not
> criminal damage
>

> I asked the operator if she was sure that a car being egged isn't
> criminal damage. She said that even if criminal damage had occurred,
> without CCTV, fingerprints or witnesses there are no further lines of
> inquiry and there was nothing they could do.

That is really irrelevant.
It is not a question of whether the offenders can be caught- it is a
question of whether or not a crime has occurred and is recordable under
National Crime Recording Standards.
The criteria applied is whether the victim perceives the matter as a
crime and that on the balance of probabilities, an offence has occurred
(as stated by the NCRS and Statutory Law)
The damage does not have to be permanent, and if cleaning costs were
involved, there will have been a loss which is measurable.
The police occasionally crime egging incidents, but they usually avoid
it wherever possible as it leaves an undetected crime on the books.
You could refer the police to the NCRS, advise them of how much it cost
to clean the vehicle,(even a minimal cost of cleaning materials if
necessary) and insist that they record the incident as criminal damage.
It depends on whether you think it is worth the effort or not

>
> What was shocking was that they said the smell of eggs isn't offensive
> and that there was no certainty that the car would smell of rotten
> eggs in a few days, so on this count no criminal damage was done
> either. I happen to find the smell of eggs extremely offensive and
> retch even at the smell of hard boiled ones.

It has been held that temporary damage could be classed as criminal
damage, so it is irrelevant whether or not the smell goes away.


--
Steve O

[Graham Murray]

Steve O <nos...@here.thanks> writes:

> It has been held that temporary damage could be classed as criminal
> damage, so it is irrelevant whether or not the smell goes away.

And even non-damage as in the case of putting a black bag over a speed
camera.

[Cynic]

On Mon, 31 Oct 2011 17:43:08 -0700 (PDT), J B
<nomdepl...@googlemail.com> wrote:

>Hello,
>
>I have been having problems with local youths egging my car.
>Unfortunately I sometimes cycle to work and leave the car parked near
>my house all day. I do not have a garage. The youths don't work or go
>to college and I am pretty much at their mercy.

Wait until they start throwing flour and milk as well, and then get
them arrested for battery.

--
Cynic

[Cynic]

On Tue, 01 Nov 2011 22:14:09 +0000, MM <kyli...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>Are you trying to tell me that last Halloween night no car in Britain
>had its paintwork scratched, or its tyres slashed, and no eggs were
>thrown as a result of gangs of youths roaming the streets looking for
>kicks?

Nobody has suggested such a thing.

The last time I had had my car vandalised, the culprit turned out to
be an OAP who had keyed my car because she did not like where I had
(legally) parked it. Perhaps old people should all be sent away to a
home where they can't annoy normal people?

--
Cynic

[Cynic]

On Tue, 1 Nov 2011 08:53:36 -0700 (PDT), J B
<nomdepl...@googlemail.com> wrote:

>"Two possible leads I can offer are a copy of a note left by a
>neighbour telling me to re-park my car although it is in a communal
>parking space (of which I attach a copy of) and an encounter with a
>neighbour driving a dark green Vauxhall Cavalier registration W461 ***
>who complained about me parking near (but not blocking) his house's
>communal parking bays exit while I was offloading belongings on my
>move-in date."

Your OP states that your car was egged by "local youths". Yet it now
appears that your main suspects are your adult neighbours.

--
Cynic

[Cecil]

Only eggs? I put the windows in when the fuckers park in my place. They
don't come back.