Freddie Starr arrested in connection with Met Savile inquiry

[Nigel Oldfield]

Freddie Starr arrested in connection with Met Savile inquiry

Officers working on operation Yewtree, into allegations of sexual abuse
related to Jimmy Savile, have made a second arrest.

http://www.channel4.com/news/freddie-starr-arrested-in-connection-with-met-savile-inquiry

WM

[Svenne]

LOL!

That deafening gurgling and splashing sound you can hear is ageing
1960's pop stars all over the UK shitting themselves.

[Janitor of Lunacy]

"Nigel Oldfield" <wmcritica...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:k6uiga$164$1...@dont-email.me...

Hmmm. Starr's quite wealthy too, isn't he?

[Jacob Von Hogflume]

You must be wringing your hands in glee Oldfield.
Still, Never too late for another turn for you eh?

[Nigel Oldfield]

On 01/11/2012 19:40, Jacob Von Hogflume wrote:
> On 01/11/2012 19:28, Nigel Oldfield wrote:
>> Freddie Starr arrested in connection with Met Savile inquiry
>>
>> Officers working on operation Yewtree, into allegations of sexual abuse
>> related to Jimmy Savile, have made a second arrest.
>>
>> http://www.channel4.com/news/freddie-starr-arrested-in-connection-with-met-savile-inquiry
>>
>>
>>
>> WM
>
> You must be wringing your hands in glee Oldfield.

Why would I be doing that? Seeing good men defamed?

> Still, Never too late for another turn for you eh?

For any of us.

WM

[Svenne]

On Thu, 01 Nov 2012 19:53:07 +0000, Nigel Oldfield
<wmcritica...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 01/11/2012 19:40, Jacob Von Hogflume wrote:
>> On 01/11/2012 19:28, Nigel Oldfield wrote:
>>> Freddie Starr arrested in connection with Met Savile inquiry
>>>
>>> Officers working on operation Yewtree, into allegations of sexual abuse
>>> related to Jimmy Savile, have made a second arrest.
>>>
>>> http://www.channel4.com/news/freddie-starr-arrested-in-connection-with-met-savile-inquiry
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> WM
>>
>> You must be wringing your hands in glee Oldfield.
>
>Why would I be doing that? Seeing good men defamed?

I remember reading about Freddie Starr nibbling a beaver or something
in the 70's but I don't know how old the beaver was. Or maybe it
wasn't a beaver,

[richardm...@googlemail.com]

I heard a rumour that there are a few hospital staff
that are on Savilles will.

And that Kenny Clarke is rushing a law through to prevent him
getting into trouble because he was health secretary.

[The Todal]

I wonder if it is just for the momentary fondling of one girl.

He'll say he can't remember any such thing and doesn't believe it
happened. And the police, having gone through the motions, will have to
give up and pick on someone else.

[Nigel Oldfield]

On 01/11/2012 19:28, Nigel Oldfield wrote:

'Freddie Starr rammed reporter's car with his Audi'

"Andrew Pugh 31 October 2012

Comedian Freddie Starr assaulted journalists and photographers encamped
outside his Warwickshire mansion and threatened to attack them with
baseball bats, according to reports.

The press has been camped outside Starr�s home since he was linked with
the Jimmy Savile sex abuse scandal earlier this month, following claims
- which he denies - linking him to an incident involving under-age sex
in the disgraced star's BBC dressing room.

According to the Daily Star, Starr �flipped� yesterday and �rammed a
reporter�s car with his Audi before swinging punches and slurring his
words in a four-letter tirade�.

One member of the press said Starr �pulled his hair and reached into his
car while trying to punch him�, while the �dishevelled� comedian
reportedly told journalists: �I�m going to come back with a baseball
bat. You�re scum, you c***s.

�I�m gonna go in there and make a phone call for some lads to come down
here and f***ing wipe you out.�

Starr has previously said he would be happy to speak with police in
relation to the allegations."

http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/freddie-starr-rammed-reporters-car-his-audi

Going up in my estimation, as every hour passes.

WM

[Steerpike]

WTF cant you give it a rest? Only pea brained morons like you are interested in this nonsense now..............

[Nigel Oldfield]

Well, I will continue, TY ... just for all us pea brained morons.

WM

[Paul Hyett]

On Thu, 1 Nov 2012 at 23:21:36, Nigel Oldfield
<wmcritica...@gmail.com> wrote in uk.legal :

>'Freddie Starr rammed reporter's car with his Audi'
>
>"Andrew Pugh 31 October 2012
>
>Comedian Freddie Starr assaulted journalists and photographers encamped
>outside his Warwickshire mansion and threatened to attack them with
>baseball bats, according to reports.
>

>The press has been camped outside Starr’s home since he was linked

>with the Jimmy Savile sex abuse scandal earlier this month, following
>claims - which he denies - linking him to an incident involving
>under-age sex in the disgraced star's BBC dressing room.
>

>According to the Daily Star, Starr “flipped” yesterday and
>“rammed a reporter’s car with his Audi before swinging punches and
>slurring his words in a four-letter tirade”.
>
>One member of the press said Starr “pulled his hair and reached into
>his car while trying to punch him”, while the “dishevelled”
>comedian reportedly told journalists: “I’m going to come back with
>a baseball bat. You’re scum, you c***s.
>
>“I’m gonna go in there and make a phone call for some lads to come
>down here and f***ing wipe you out.”

Well, whatever happens with the child abuse allegations, he's likely to
get a day in court for the above...
--
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham

[richardm...@googlemail.com]

On Friday, November 2, 2012 7:35:40 AM UTC, Paul Hyett wrote:
> On Thu, 1 Nov 2012 at 23:21:36, Nigel Oldfield <wmcritica...@gmail.com> wrote in uk.legal : >'Freddie Starr rammed reporter's car with his Audi' > >"Andrew Pugh 31 October 2012 > >Comedian Freddie Starr assaulted journalists and photographers encamped >outside his Warwickshire mansion and threatened to attack them with >baseball bats, according to reports. > >The press has been camped outside Starr’s home since he was linked >with the Jimmy Savile sex abuse scandal earlier this month, following >claims - which he denies - linking him to an incident involving >under-age sex in the disgraced star's BBC dressing room. > >According to the Daily Star, Starr “flipped” yesterday and >“rammed a reporter’s car with his Audi before swinging punches and >slurring his words in a four-letter tirade”. > >One member of the press said Starr “pulled his hair and reached into >his car while trying to punch him”, while the “dishevelled” >comedian reportedly told journalists: “I’m going to come back with >a baseball bat. You’re scum, you c***s. > >“I’m gonna go in there and make a phone call for some lads to come >down here and f***ing wipe you out.” Well, whatever happens with the child abuse allegations, he's likely to get a day in court for the above... -- Paul Hyett, Cheltenham

Four letter tirade, big words from the Star

[JohnR]

On 01/11/2012 19:28, Nigel Oldfield wrote:

Desperately looking for someone still breathing to take the wrap and
carry the can for Jim, allow the media to get their hate filled
headlines, release the pressure, then move on from the most spectacular
and ridiculous hysteria I've seen in a very long time.

[AlanG]

On Fri, 2 Nov 2012 07:17:04 +0000, Paul Hyett <p...@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

He should get a letter of commendation.

[LebesgueMeasure]

"JohnR" <repr...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:sOLks.146715$it2....@fx22.am4...

>>
> Desperately looking for someone still breathing to take the wrap and
> carry the can for Jim, allow the media to get their hate filled
> headlines, release the pressure, then move on from the most spectacular
> and ridiculous hysteria I've seen in a very long time.
>
>

It reminds me of post-Dunblane, when the authorities and the media were
desperately looking for someone to pin the blame on. In the end they
settled on the group punishment of 60,000 legally licensed pistol owners.
In the Savile case, I have no problem with them going after other child
abusers who may have operated with Savile, but when they start denouncing
people who "didn't do enough" to stop him, then I am filled with disgust.
What did the media do to stop Savile? Fuck all! They were more interested
in obstructing the investigation into the disappearance of Molly Dowler than
in challenging wealthy right wing TV personalities.

[richardm...@googlemail.com]

Desperately looking for someone still breathing to take the wrap and
carry the can for Jim, allow the media to get their hate filled
headlines, release the pressure, then move on from the most spectacular
and ridiculous hysteria I've seen in a very long time.

---

And i suppose if your daughter/mother/sister or wife
were raped it would be an over reaction for the culprit
to be brought to justice and possibly stop on going
abuse.

[The Todal]

No, I think the thought process seems to be:

1. It's unfair to make allegations about Jimmy when he isn't alive and
can't defend himself. Heck, we all loved and respected him while he was
still with us, and some of us had the honour to shake his hand and
inhale the cigar smoke.

2. Therefore we should see all his accusers as "hysterical" and liars
and fantasists, which neatly solves the whole problem and allows us to
move on and worry about something else.

3. If women are now coming forward and complaining of being groped at
the BBC, they too are being hysterical. Women do get hysterical, and
they have weird things called periods which we prefer not to ask too
much about. If they didn't complain about being groped at the time, it
is impertinent of them to talk about it now.

4. Everything is for the best in this best of all possible worlds and Dr
Pangloss was quite right.

[JohnR]

this isn't justice you dolt.

[JohnR]

On 02/11/2012 09:26, AlanG wrote:
> On Fri, 2 Nov 2012 07:17:04 +0000, Paul Hyett <p...@invalid.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 1 Nov 2012 at 23:21:36, Nigel Oldfield
>> <wmcritica...@gmail.com> wrote in uk.legal :
>>
>>> 'Freddie Starr rammed reporter's car with his Audi'
>>>
>>> "Andrew Pugh 31 October 2012
>>>
>>> Comedian Freddie Starr assaulted journalists and photographers encamped
>>> outside his Warwickshire mansion and threatened to attack them with
>>> baseball bats, according to reports.
>>>

>>> The press has been camped outside Starr�s home since he was linked

>>> with the Jimmy Savile sex abuse scandal earlier this month, following
>>> claims - which he denies - linking him to an incident involving
>>> under-age sex in the disgraced star's BBC dressing room.
>>>

>>> According to the Daily Star, Starr �flipped� yesterday and
>>> �rammed a reporter�s car with his Audi before swinging punches and
>>> slurring his words in a four-letter tirade�.
>>>
>>> One member of the press said Starr �pulled his hair and reached into
>>> his car while trying to punch him�, while the �dishevelled�
>>> comedian reportedly told journalists: �I�m going to come back with
>>> a baseball bat. You�re scum, you c***s.
>>>

>>> �I�m gonna go in there and make a phone call for some lads to come
>>> down here and f***ing wipe you out.�

>>
>> Well, whatever happens with the child abuse allegations, he's likely to
>> get a day in court for the above...
>
> He should get a letter of commendation.
>

Just a pity he didn't accidentally reverse over a few of the scum bags.

[richardm...@googlemail.com]

> And i suppose if your daughter/mother/sister or wife
> were raped it would be an over reaction for the culprit
> to be brought to justice and possibly stop on going
> abuse.
>

this isn't justice you dolt.

---

Prior to his death the status quo was that there
were people at the BBC, the hospitals and the schools
that have kept quiet.

There had been investiagations by the police.

There had been allegations made to the police that were
not investigated.

If the press, incentivised to sell papers, bring this
travesty out into the open then it is a good thing.

If it leads to the arrests of existing celebrities for
similar crimes, even though it was over 30+ years and
they may have not committed a similar crime. Then yes
it is a good thing because it means that you should not
be able to escape justice for a crime.

[The Todal]

It's fairly typical of our journalists, though. Instead of investigating
scandals, as they used to do in the good old days of the Sunday Times
and the thalidomide story, they send bunches of photographers to lay
siege to someone's house and the only story is "celebrity gets annoyed"
and "celebrity swears at us".

If only it was lawful for Freddie Starr to spray the whole lot of them
with manure.

[JohnR]

Indeed, let the police do their job.

[JohnR]

Trial by TV and media then, only for the things that excite of course.

Press your red button now to find the accused guilty.

[richardm...@googlemail.com]

if it means justice so be it

[Nigel Oldfield]

On 02/11/2012 10:38, The Todal wrote:

>>
>> And i suppose if your daughter/mother/sister or wife
>> were raped it would be an over reaction for the culprit
>> to be brought to justice and possibly stop on going
>> abuse.
>>
>
> No, I think the thought process seems to be:

Let's see how many will stand up to (even biased) scrutiny.

We can be pretty certain how many would not, if it were equal scrutiny.

WM

[Nigel Oldfield]

On 02/11/2012 11:15, richardm...@googlemail.com wrote:

>> And i suppose if your daughter/mother/sister or wife
>> were raped it would be an over reaction for the culprit
>> to be brought to justice and possibly stop on going
>> abuse.
>>
>
> this isn't justice you dolt.
> ---
>
> Prior to his death the status quo was that there
> were people at the BBC, the hospitals and the schools
> that have kept quiet.
>
> There had been investiagations by the police.
>
> There had been allegations made to the police that were
> not investigated.

Evidence?

WM

[richardm...@googlemail.com]

There were nurses who approached the police
at the time about Savile behavour. The policeman
in question brought it to the attention of his
superior and they chose not to investigate.

[richardm...@googlemail.com]

No doubt alot of people are motivated by
money.

[Nigel Oldfield]

Did the 'nurses say' this?

Has it been confirmed by the police force?

What do you mean by 'investigate'?

WM

[richardm...@googlemail.com]

I confess Nige, i was told this by someone
who read it in the mail.

I believe the article stated one of the nurses
were at Stoke mandeville. The nurses would comment
on who would be the 'chosen one' and told children
to pretend they were asleep. (though assuming the
claims that he was into necrophilia this would be
a bad idea)

The police man i believe is the same detective Newsnight
and Panoram hired to check the veracity of the
witnesses for the Newsnight story.

---
What is your honest opinion did he act criminally
inappropriately?

[Nigel Oldfield]

Criminally, this is not about Jimmy, he is gone - The Met have been
clear about that and unqualified statements of ***guilt*** (from all who
make it) are outrageous.

Civilly, I have little idea if he had wandering hands or not. I do know
that dead folk (estates) should never be able to be sued. Balance of
probability can never be 'measured' [sic], if the chief witness is
unavailable.

I do believe, that this is a coordinated attack, by a number of vested
interests (media and survivors, predominantly).

WM