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Exclusive: Suspect was inspired by cleric banned from UK
after urging followers to behead enemies of Islam
Suspect heard preachings of former London imam who today
provokes outrage by defiantly stating: 'He was very
courageous... Under Islam, this can be justified'
By Kim Sengupta, Defence Correspondent
The Independent
Thursday, May 23, 2013
One of the suspected killers who attempted to behead and
disembowel a young soldier in the horrific Woolwich
attack had listened to the preachings of a radical Muslim
cleric banned from Britain over extremist activities,
including alleged links to al-Qa�ida, The Independent has
learnt.
The cleric Omar Bakri Mohammed has been secretly filmed
stating that decapitation of the enemies of Islam was
permitted. Today, in comments met with outrage, he told
The Independent that he could understand the feeling of
rage that had motivated the attackers and that what they
had done could be justified under certain interpretations
of Islam.
Michael Adebolajo, a British-Muslim convert of Nigerian
origin who gave a video interview with a meat cleaver in
his bloodied hands while the body of 25-year-old Drummer
Lee Rigby lay on the street behind him, declared that he
was fighting for �Almighty Allah�.
Mr Bakri Muhammed, who now lives in Lebanon, told The
Independent: �I saw the film and we could see that he
[the suspect] was being very courageous.
�Under Islam this can be justified, he was not targeting
civilians, he was taking on a military man in an
operation. To people around here [in the Middle East] he
is a hero for what he has done.�
Mr Bakri Muhammed said of the suspect: �I knew him as
Michael when he came to the meetings and then he
converted and he became known as Abdullah; I hear he then
started calling himself Mujahid. He asked questions about
religion, he was curious. He had first started coming
when there was a lot of anger about the Iraq war and the
war on terror. Whether I influenced him or not, I do not
know. But he was a quiet boy, so something must have
happened.�
In other developments today, two new arrests were made: a
man and a woman on suspicion of conspiracy to murder,
following raids at six addresses in London and Lincoln.
It also emerged that the two suspected killers of Drummer
Rigby were already known to MI5 and, almost certainly, to
counter-terrorism officers in the police. One of the men
was stopped from travelling to Somalia to join the
Islamist militia Al-Shabaab last year.
Security officials insisted that there had been no
evidence that either of the two men were planning an
imminent attack. Nor was there any evidence, they say,
that they were discussing beheading. They point out that
there were plenty of references to it in Islamist
websites.
In 2007, following the conviction of a group British
Pakistanis who had plotted to kidnap and behead a British
soldier, a secret recording emerged of Mr Bakri Muhammed
saying: �When you meet [Westerners], slice their own
necks. And when you make the blood spill all over, and
the enemy becomes so tired, now start to take from them
prisoners. Then free them or exchange them until the war
is finished.
�Verily they remind the sunnah of removing the head of
the enemy. They remind the sunnah of slaughtering the
enemy. They remind the sunnah of how to strike the neck
of the enemy. They removed the head of the enemy. Use the
sword and remove the head of the enemy.�
In another message, Mr Bakri Muhammed had said he hoped
that �British Muslims who are in the Army over there�
(Afghanistan) can be captured.
Mr Bakri Muhammed, who is Syrian-born, and has named one
of his sons after Osama bin Laden, stated that he and his
followers were not involved in violence while residing in
the UK due to what had become known as the �covenant of
security� under which Islamist organisations were allowed
to carry out their activities, but desisted from taking
armed action in the country which had given them refuge.
�But in this case obviously the covenant of security did
not apply,� he said.
�Beheading is how criminals were executed under the laws;
but that must happen with a Sharia court and decision by
judges with criminals. On this occasion he was taking
military action, not a legal one.�
Mr Bakri Muhammed had set up the organization Hizb ut-
Tahrir in the UK, where he had claimed asylum in 1986,
but split with them after doctrinal disagreements and set
up the Al-Muhajiroun group which attracted hundreds of
followers including Adebolajo. That was also wound up but
at least a dozen of its members are thought to have
become or affiliated to suicide bombers.
Mr Bakri Muhammed left London soon after the 2005
bombings because, he said, of constant harassment by the
authorities. When Israel carried out attacks on Lebanon
during its war with Hizbullah a year later he attempted
to join civilians being evacuated from Lebanon by the
British military, but was refused. He protested at the
time: �What concerns me is my safety. I�d be happy with a
month�s visa but this morning they told me I couldn�t
because I�m not a British citizen any more.�
He was subsequently informed by the UK government that he
would not be allowed to return here. Since then Mr Bakri
Muhammed had repeatedly warned that the foreign policy
being pursued by the UK would lead to retaliation by
Muslims in the West and states would be powerless to
prevent this.
A 29-year-old woman at a home in south London, and a man
of the same age, were arrested in arrested at an
undisclosed location.
The two men shot by police remain in hospital with non-
fatal injuries but it is understood officers are yet to
interview the pair. It emerged that the shooting was
captured by a council camera. Two officers fired their
guns and a third fired a taser weapon, the Independent
Police Complaints Commission said.
More at:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/exclusive-suspect-was-inspired-by-cleric-banned-from-uk-after-urging-followers-to-behead-enemies-of-islam-8630125.html
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after urging followers to behead enemies of Islam
Suspect heard preachings of former London imam who today
provokes outrage by defiantly stating: 'He was very
courageous... Under Islam, this can be justified'
By Kim Sengupta, Defence Correspondent
The Independent
Thursday, May 23, 2013
One of the suspected killers who attempted to behead and
disembowel a young soldier in the horrific Woolwich
attack had listened to the preachings of a radical Muslim
cleric banned from Britain over extremist activities,
including alleged links to al-Qa�ida, The Independent has
learnt.
The cleric Omar Bakri Mohammed has been secretly filmed
stating that decapitation of the enemies of Islam was
permitted. Today, in comments met with outrage, he told
The Independent that he could understand the feeling of
rage that had motivated the attackers and that what they
had done could be justified under certain interpretations
of Islam.
Michael Adebolajo, a British-Muslim convert of Nigerian
origin who gave a video interview with a meat cleaver in
his bloodied hands while the body of 25-year-old Drummer
Lee Rigby lay on the street behind him, declared that he
was fighting for �Almighty Allah�.
Mr Bakri Muhammed, who now lives in Lebanon, told The
Independent: �I saw the film and we could see that he
[the suspect] was being very courageous.
�Under Islam this can be justified, he was not targeting
civilians, he was taking on a military man in an
operation. To people around here [in the Middle East] he
is a hero for what he has done.�
Mr Bakri Muhammed said of the suspect: �I knew him as
Michael when he came to the meetings and then he
converted and he became known as Abdullah; I hear he then
started calling himself Mujahid. He asked questions about
religion, he was curious. He had first started coming
when there was a lot of anger about the Iraq war and the
war on terror. Whether I influenced him or not, I do not
know. But he was a quiet boy, so something must have
happened.�
In other developments today, two new arrests were made: a
man and a woman on suspicion of conspiracy to murder,
following raids at six addresses in London and Lincoln.
It also emerged that the two suspected killers of Drummer
Rigby were already known to MI5 and, almost certainly, to
counter-terrorism officers in the police. One of the men
was stopped from travelling to Somalia to join the
Islamist militia Al-Shabaab last year.
Security officials insisted that there had been no
evidence that either of the two men were planning an
imminent attack. Nor was there any evidence, they say,
that they were discussing beheading. They point out that
there were plenty of references to it in Islamist
websites.
In 2007, following the conviction of a group British
Pakistanis who had plotted to kidnap and behead a British
soldier, a secret recording emerged of Mr Bakri Muhammed
saying: �When you meet [Westerners], slice their own
necks. And when you make the blood spill all over, and
the enemy becomes so tired, now start to take from them
prisoners. Then free them or exchange them until the war
is finished.
�Verily they remind the sunnah of removing the head of
the enemy. They remind the sunnah of slaughtering the
enemy. They remind the sunnah of how to strike the neck
of the enemy. They removed the head of the enemy. Use the
sword and remove the head of the enemy.�
In another message, Mr Bakri Muhammed had said he hoped
that �British Muslims who are in the Army over there�
(Afghanistan) can be captured.
Mr Bakri Muhammed, who is Syrian-born, and has named one
of his sons after Osama bin Laden, stated that he and his
followers were not involved in violence while residing in
the UK due to what had become known as the �covenant of
security� under which Islamist organisations were allowed
to carry out their activities, but desisted from taking
armed action in the country which had given them refuge.
�But in this case obviously the covenant of security did
not apply,� he said.
�Beheading is how criminals were executed under the laws;
but that must happen with a Sharia court and decision by
judges with criminals. On this occasion he was taking
military action, not a legal one.�
Mr Bakri Muhammed had set up the organization Hizb ut-
Tahrir in the UK, where he had claimed asylum in 1986,
but split with them after doctrinal disagreements and set
up the Al-Muhajiroun group which attracted hundreds of
followers including Adebolajo. That was also wound up but
at least a dozen of its members are thought to have
become or affiliated to suicide bombers.
Mr Bakri Muhammed left London soon after the 2005
bombings because, he said, of constant harassment by the
authorities. When Israel carried out attacks on Lebanon
during its war with Hizbullah a year later he attempted
to join civilians being evacuated from Lebanon by the
British military, but was refused. He protested at the
time: �What concerns me is my safety. I�d be happy with a
month�s visa but this morning they told me I couldn�t
because I�m not a British citizen any more.�
He was subsequently informed by the UK government that he
would not be allowed to return here. Since then Mr Bakri
Muhammed had repeatedly warned that the foreign policy
being pursued by the UK would lead to retaliation by
Muslims in the West and states would be powerless to
prevent this.
A 29-year-old woman at a home in south London, and a man
of the same age, were arrested in arrested at an
undisclosed location.
The two men shot by police remain in hospital with non-
fatal injuries but it is understood officers are yet to
interview the pair. It emerged that the shooting was
captured by a council camera. Two officers fired their
guns and a third fired a taser weapon, the Independent
Police Complaints Commission said.
More at:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/exclusive-suspect-was-inspired-by-cleric-banned-from-uk-after-urging-followers-to-behead-enemies-of-islam-8630125.html
Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.jai-maharaj
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o Not for commercial use. Solely to be fairly used
for the educational purposes of research and open
discussion. The contents of this post may not have been
authored by, and do not necessarily represent the opinion
of the poster. The contents are protected by copyright
law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.
o If you send private e-mail to me, it will likely
not be read, considered or answered if it does not
contain your full legal name, current e-mail and postal
addresses, and live-voice telephone number.
o Posted for information and discussion. Views
expressed by others are not necessarily those of the
poster who may or may not have read the article.
FAIR USE NOTICE: This article may contain copyrighted
material the use of which may or may not have been
specifically authorized by the copyright owner. This
material is being made available in efforts to advance
the understanding of environmental, political, human
rights, economic, democratic, scientific, social, and
cultural, etc., issues. It is believed that this
constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material
as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law.
In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the
material on this site is distributed without profit to
those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving
the included information for research, comment,
discussion and educational purposes by subscribing to
USENET newsgroups or visiting web sites. For more
information go to:
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Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
Woolwich attack: The EDL will seek to exploit this evil
crime for their own evil ends
May 22, 2013
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/woolwich-attack-the-edl-will-seek-to-exploit-this-evil-crime-for-their-own-evil-ends-8628100.html
crime for their own evil ends
May 22, 2013
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/woolwich-attack-the-edl-will-seek-to-exploit-this-evil-crime-for-their-own-evil-ends-8628100.html
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